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== Apps it would be good to have ==
 
== Apps it would be good to have ==

Revision as of 18:02, 28 February 2010

Contents


About me

My name is Graziano Sorbaioli and I am a free software activist.

My Neo:

  • Neo Freerunner A7+ bought from Golden delicious (highly recommended! Shipment to Italy in 3 working days)
  • SHR LITE Testing

My goals:

I want to hack on the Freerunner in the fields of usability and User Interface.

I own an HTC Dream with Android 1.6 and CyanogenMod-4.2.14 rom.

Since the stability and maturity of the Dream and Android I am going to compare it to the Freerunner to see differences and where we can improve.


Neo Accessories

When I bought my Neo the traveller pouche was not included in the package so I had to buy one separately. In Italy I was able to find a good one called "Tucano Rapida Camera Bag extra small". It's made for cameras but the Neo fits good in it.



Thoughts about User Interface

  • Browsing apps inside home windows

I think we should follow mac os x mobile way of browsing instead of the android one. This means that when the default *visible* home screen is full, the next app installed should go to another page.

Scrolling should be done by different pages instead of scrolling vertically one big window.


  • Closing current app

We should have two ways to do this: close the current app by pressing an hardware key or the current X button in the upper bar.


Boot Time

How long do both phones take to be up and running? (aka cold start) I will try to keep this section updated.

  • HTC Dream (Android 1.6 + CyanogenMod-4.2.14)

~ 2 minutes

  • Neo Freerunner A7+ (SHR LITE Testing - 2010 25th January)

1,40 minutes

Finger Friendly

All apps in android are finger friendly, what about SHR testing?

NOT OK

  • keyboard too small!

possible solutions

see next paragraph


  • scrolling pages in all apps

it requires more pressure than usual, scrolling is not smooth

Gnutoo says it can't be fixed because it is related to the type of touchscreen display used.

OK

  • slide
  • opening apps in home screen
  • making a call
  • phone log
  • alarm setting
  • calculator
  • mokonnect scanning wifi networks
  • SHR Settings
  • browsing with Ventura


Different Default Keyboard

SHR has two preinstalled keyboard: illume-default and terminal.

Both have too small keys and are not finger friendly.

Possible solutions:


(i INSTALLED OMNEWROTATE BUT ILLUME KEYBOARD DISAPPEARS WHEN FREERUNNER IS IN LANDSCAPE MODE)


NOTE:

none of these keyboards is able to rotate correctly using omnewrotate.

I have yet to investigate if there are better rotation solution or it is better to fix omnewrotate.

Best connections manager for SHR

installation ok

use: ok but sometimes it fails to connect and you had to retry. Still it seems the most functioning one


installation failed: Segmentation fault


installation failed: "Segmentation fault"


installation failed

Collected errors:

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for zenity:
        *  gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) * 
* Cannot find package zenity.
* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for wlan:
        *  dhcp-client * 
* Cannot find package wlan.


installation failed. It immediately returns to shell and doesn't download

installation ok

use:

Suggestions for SHR

  • notifications: currently I see them only when I wake up the phone pressing the power button.

I don't think it's a good place. We should have them on the upper bar (as android) or in the lower buttons (as mac os mobile)

  • automatically detect wifi networks and login to a chosen default one (via mokonnect?)
  • clock shows wrong time after reboot (you set it, save, reboot and it shows the wrong time)
  • tab menu to switch between dialer, contacts and call logs
  • "copy to sim" button inside the contact details window
  • SHR FULL should have ventura browser, calendar, email, music, vocal recorder apps preinstalled
  • SHR LITE should have at least the calendar app preinstalled
  • long press in home screen = background choice

Feedback from developers

  • opkg graphic application (om-showroom app?)

The current maintained GUI for opkg is called "shr-installer" but it failed to install.

Its maintainer, dos1, is fixing it.



  • SIM application Toolkit aka SAT support

<DocScrutinizer> graziano: that SIM applications. Not supported by FSO <DocScrutinizer> it's complex, and most devels agree on we don't want to have to disable it, once FSO has implemented it <DocScrutinizer> as you don't have real control over that crap

Opkg.org Games

I tried installing all opkg.org games using SHR Testing and opkg.

Here is the result:


installation ok

playing: it fails to start


installation ok

playing ok but it lacks a desktop icon and requires you to launch games from the terminal


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing not good. Some virtual buttons don't work.


installation ok

playing: error: "xboard: no fonts match pattern -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "


installation ok

playing ok but, is this a game after all?


installation failed:

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for linball-openmoko:

* libvorbis *

* Cannot find package linball-openmoko.



installation ok

playing ok


installation: "Segmentation fault"


installation failed

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for moko-eightball:

* libecore-evas * libecore0 * libevas0 * libedje0 * libevas-engine-software-16-x11

*  libevas-loader-eet *  libevas-loader-png * 
* Cannot find package moko-eightball.


installation ok

playing is a bit slow (maybe due to mutex / spinlock debug etc. activated in the kernel)


installation ok

playing: it starts but then it doesn't work.


"Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/nethack_3.4.3-10.1-0.4_armv4t.ipk" and then it returns to shell


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok playing: it starts but resolution is low. Touching the screen brings on and off the menu. Even using the stylus is impossible to select a menu entry. At the end it crashed.


installation: "Segmentation fault" while downloading


installation failed because of missing dependencies

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for openmiaocat:
        *  python-pygame * 
* Cannot find package openmiaocat.


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing: it doesn't start by default. You have to give the following commands in a terminal:

xrandr -o 1

pingus.bin -w -g 640x434 --disable-music --disable-sound

(it's slow, maybe same reason as mokomaze?)


installation failed because of missing dependencies

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for pipes:

* python-pygame *



installation ok

playing: it exits immediately

error:

Traceback (most recent call last):

 File "pysol.py", line 26, in <module>
   init()
 File "/usr/share/PySolFC-1.1/pysollib/init.py", line 118, in init
   root = Tkinter.Tk(className=settings.TITLE)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1643, in __init__
   self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className, interactive, wantobjects, useTk, sync, use)

_tkinter.TclError: Can't find a usable init.tcl in the following directories:

   /usr/lib/tcl8.4 /usr/lib/tcl8.4 /lib/tcl8.4 /usr/library /library /tcl8.4.19/library /usr/lib/tcl8.4



installation failed due to missing dependency

Collected errors:

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for scummvm:

* libvorbis *

* Cannot find package scummvm.



installation ok

playing: all puzzles play well


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing: it crashes

List of functioning roms


installation: it failed to download - "error detail: HTTP response code said error"


Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/0_xlogical_1.0-8-r0.4_armv4t.opk


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing ok

Games it would be good to have

PLEASE NOTE:

I am not a developer (read it twice please). I am not aware of the technical skills needed to port these games or even if porting is possible on the Freerunner (maybe because of low device cpu, os libraries, dependencies, etc.).

I am writing this list because I think it would be good to have them.

So please, instead of useless critics, let's have a brainstorm about new Freerunner games, ok?

If you wish to start working on any of these, please put your nick / name under the game with your email.

Thank you.


Gnutoo should have already ported this afaik

  • a Jewel clone
  • pacman clone (Njam?)
  • Checkers
  • Brain Genius / Brain Training
  • a tower defense game



Opkg.org Applications

installation ok

use: opens and browse but when clicking on text box it doesn't display any keyboard to input text.


installation ok

use: opens and browse but when clicking on text box it doesn't display any keyboard to input text.

--Rakshat 17:02, 28 February 2010 (UTC) try clicking on the keyboard icon on illume shelf to manualy launch the keyboard whenever you need it

http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/thumb/b/bf/SHR-Top-Shelve.png/200px-SHR-Top-Shelve.png

Apps it would be good to have

  • App installer (shr-installer included by default?)
  • Calendar
  • Image viewer
  • Meteo
Personal tools

Contents


About me

My name is Graziano Sorbaioli and I am a free software activist.

My Neo:

  • Neo Freerunner A7+ bought from Golden delicious (highly recommended! Shipment to Italy in 3 working days)
  • SHR LITE Testing

My goals:

I want to hack on the Freerunner in the fields of usability and User Interface.

I own an HTC Dream with Android 1.6 and CyanogenMod-4.2.14 rom.

Since the stability and maturity of the Dream and Android I am going to compare it to the Freerunner to see differences and where we can improve.


Neo Accessories

When I bought my Neo the traveller pouche was not included in the package so I had to buy one separately. In Italy I was able to find a good one called "Tucano Rapida Camera Bag extra small". It's made for cameras but the Neo fits good in it.



Thoughts about User Interface

  • Browsing apps inside home windows

I think we should follow mac os x mobile way of browsing instead of the android one. This means that when the default *visible* home screen is full, the next app installed should go to another page.

Scrolling should be done by different pages instead of scrolling vertically one big window.


  • Closing current app

We should have two ways to do this: close the current app by pressing an hardware key or the current X button in the upper bar.


Boot Time

How long do both phones take to be up and running? (aka cold start) I will try to keep this section updated.

  • HTC Dream (Android 1.6 + CyanogenMod-4.2.14)

~ 2 minutes

  • Neo Freerunner A7+ (SHR LITE Testing - 2010 25th January)

1,40 minutes

Finger Friendly

All apps in android are finger friendly, what about SHR testing?

NOT OK

  • keyboard too small!

possible solutions

see next paragraph


  • scrolling pages in all apps

it requires more pressure than usual, scrolling is not smooth

Gnutoo says it can't be fixed because it is related to the type of touchscreen display used.

OK

  • slide
  • opening apps in home screen
  • making a call
  • phone log
  • alarm setting
  • calculator
  • mokonnect scanning wifi networks
  • SHR Settings
  • browsing with Ventura


Different Default Keyboard

SHR has two preinstalled keyboard: illume-default and terminal.

Both have too small keys and are not finger friendly.

Possible solutions:


(i INSTALLED OMNEWROTATE BUT ILLUME KEYBOARD DISAPPEARS WHEN FREERUNNER IS IN LANDSCAPE MODE)


NOTE:

none of these keyboards is able to rotate correctly using omnewrotate.

I have yet to investigate if there are better rotation solution or it is better to fix omnewrotate.

Best connections manager for SHR

installation ok

use: ok but sometimes it fails to connect and you had to retry. Still it seems the most functioning one


installation failed: Segmentation fault


installation failed: "Segmentation fault"


installation failed

Collected errors:

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for zenity:
        *  gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) * 
* Cannot find package zenity.
* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for wlan:
        *  dhcp-client * 
* Cannot find package wlan.


installation failed. It immediately returns to shell and doesn't download

installation ok

use:

Suggestions for SHR

  • notifications: currently I see them only when I wake up the phone pressing the power button.

I don't think it's a good place. We should have them on the upper bar (as android) or in the lower buttons (as mac os mobile)

  • automatically detect wifi networks and login to a chosen default one (via mokonnect?)
  • clock shows wrong time after reboot (you set it, save, reboot and it shows the wrong time)
  • tab menu to switch between dialer, contacts and call logs
  • "copy to sim" button inside the contact details window
  • SHR FULL should have ventura browser, calendar, email, music, vocal recorder apps preinstalled
  • SHR LITE should have at least the calendar app preinstalled
  • long press in home screen = background choice

Feedback from developers

  • opkg graphic application (om-showroom app?)

The current maintained GUI for opkg is called "shr-installer" but it failed to install.

Its maintainer, dos1, is fixing it.



  • SIM application Toolkit aka SAT support

<DocScrutinizer> graziano: that SIM applications. Not supported by FSO <DocScrutinizer> it's complex, and most devels agree on we don't want to have to disable it, once FSO has implemented it <DocScrutinizer> as you don't have real control over that crap

Opkg.org Games

I tried installing all opkg.org games using SHR Testing and opkg.

Here is the result:


installation ok

playing: it fails to start


installation ok

playing ok but it lacks a desktop icon and requires you to launch games from the terminal


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing not good. Some virtual buttons don't work.


installation ok

playing: error: "xboard: no fonts match pattern -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "


installation ok

playing ok but, is this a game after all?


installation failed:

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for linball-openmoko:

* libvorbis *

* Cannot find package linball-openmoko.



installation ok

playing ok


installation: "Segmentation fault"


installation failed

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for moko-eightball:

* libecore-evas * libecore0 * libevas0 * libedje0 * libevas-engine-software-16-x11

*  libevas-loader-eet *  libevas-loader-png * 
* Cannot find package moko-eightball.


installation ok

playing is a bit slow (maybe due to mutex / spinlock debug etc. activated in the kernel)


installation ok

playing: it starts but then it doesn't work.


"Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/nethack_3.4.3-10.1-0.4_armv4t.ipk" and then it returns to shell


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok playing: it starts but resolution is low. Touching the screen brings on and off the menu. Even using the stylus is impossible to select a menu entry. At the end it crashed.


installation: "Segmentation fault" while downloading


installation failed because of missing dependencies

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for openmiaocat:
        *  python-pygame * 
* Cannot find package openmiaocat.


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing: it doesn't start by default. You have to give the following commands in a terminal:

xrandr -o 1

pingus.bin -w -g 640x434 --disable-music --disable-sound

(it's slow, maybe same reason as mokomaze?)


installation failed because of missing dependencies

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for pipes:

* python-pygame *



installation ok

playing: it exits immediately

error:

Traceback (most recent call last):

 File "pysol.py", line 26, in <module>
   init()
 File "/usr/share/PySolFC-1.1/pysollib/init.py", line 118, in init
   root = Tkinter.Tk(className=settings.TITLE)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1643, in __init__
   self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className, interactive, wantobjects, useTk, sync, use)

_tkinter.TclError: Can't find a usable init.tcl in the following directories:

   /usr/lib/tcl8.4 /usr/lib/tcl8.4 /lib/tcl8.4 /usr/library /library /tcl8.4.19/library /usr/lib/tcl8.4



installation failed due to missing dependency

Collected errors:

* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for scummvm:

* libvorbis *

* Cannot find package scummvm.



installation ok

playing: all puzzles play well


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing: it crashes

List of functioning roms


installation: it failed to download - "error detail: HTTP response code said error"


Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/0_xlogical_1.0-8-r0.4_armv4t.opk


installation ok

playing ok


installation ok

playing ok

Games it would be good to have

PLEASE NOTE:

I am not a developer (read it twice please). I am not aware of the technical skills needed to port these games or even if porting is possible on the Freerunner (maybe because of low device cpu, os libraries, dependencies, etc.).

I am writing this list because I think it would be good to have them.

So please, instead of useless critics, let's have a brainstorm about new Freerunner games, ok?

If you wish to start working on any of these, please put your nick / name under the game with your email.

Thank you.


Gnutoo should have already ported this afaik

  • a Jewel clone
  • pacman clone (Njam?)
  • Checkers
  • Brain Genius / Brain Training
  • a tower defense game



Opkg.org Applications

installation ok

use: opens and browse but when clicking on text box it doesn't display any keyboard to input text.


installation ok

use: opens and browse but when clicking on text box it doesn't display any keyboard to input text.

--Rakshat 17:02, 28 February 2010 (UTC) try clicking on the keyboard icon on illume shelf to manualy launch the keyboard whenever you need it

http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/thumb/b/bf/SHR-Top-Shelve.png/200px-SHR-Top-Shelve.png

Apps it would be good to have

  • App installer (shr-installer included by default?)
  • Calendar
  • Image viewer
  • Meteo