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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>== <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Moko Underground </del>==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>== <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">pyneo.org </ins>==</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">i started a project called zad months ago and developed a stack of daemons for it. see more at </del>about <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">it at http://neo1973-germany.de/wiki/Zad. i showed it at the fosdem and the developer community showed some interest in it.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">all documentation </ins>about my <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">initiatives </ins>with the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Neo1973 </ins>and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the Freerunner </ins>are <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">collected under http</ins>://<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">pyneo</ins>.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">org</ins>/ .</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">== GTA01 first impressions ==</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">I got </del>my <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">neo1973 gta01 some month ago now and want to share my experience </del>with <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">it. Because </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">gui at that point did not work at all </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">i was interested to develop an own gui anyway i deinstalled all gui stuff with</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> ipkg remove -recursive <all x11 libs></del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">(i don't remember which one and can't take a look because they </del>are <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">gone on my neo right now). Now i started to check all low-level functionality i thought i would need for my application with simple scripts to start them and python programs to test them (see the edits i made on the pages "manually using [GSM|GPRS|GPS|BT]" here in the wiki). With that basis i was able to do longrunning tests. here is the outcome</del>:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">{| align="center" style="margin:0em;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="1" </del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">! *</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">! software in use</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">! hints</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">! [[Manually_using_GSM|GSM]]</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| libgsmd</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| did not work reliable. clients can't determine the state. i found no documentation when to issue which call (i.e. if you connect but don't get called for pin, when do you call to register into a network). is not able to decode special sms (like initiating sms for mms). sample client libgsmd-tool coredumps all the way. does not use (the glib recommended way) of using dbus.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| manually playing around shows something that looks like a kernel bug: linux freezes entirely. this is not a bug but a flow problem. switching on</del>/<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">off the modem toggles also a serial device where the kernel loggs. if there is flow control enabled the kernel waits for 'RTS' which never comes without debug board. issue the command `stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 -crtscts` before tampering around with "/sys/bus/ platform/devices</del>/ <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">gta01-pm-gsm</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">0</del>/<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">power_on".</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">! [[Manually_using_GPRS|GPRS]]</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| pppd</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| works well if chatscript take over everythink (like pin entry). same problems for auto-detect as mentioned with pan apply.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| using the options lcp-echo-interval allowed to keep a connection open over days without any problems.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">! [[Manually_using_GPS|GPS]]</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| gllin</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| for long running gllin some option must be changed (like named pipe and logfile output) but i never got a reliable fix for a ling time. gllin seems to have a memory leak or the like (after running for several hours cpu usage raised from about 2% to 20%).</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| switching off logging (option -nmea) and writing to the named pipe (-np) allowed a long running gllin - otherwise the rootfs was filled up fast.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| sys fs</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| everything here is not documented very well. battemp show -6 (which should be in celsius), chgcur says 17213 (which would be 17A current!) while battvol is decreasing. i often encounter a neo that switches off even if it's connected to usb because the charing does not start.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">! [[Manually_using_Bluetooth|BT PAN]]</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| bluez-utils</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| using internet over pan works fine while i did not figure out how to auto-detect the best way into the inter for the neo. i would prefere a fallback-rule like use usb, pan, gprs. libc makes some trouble when changing the nameserver, running processes will use a old one.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| jffs2</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| if the filesystem runs full you are doomed. jffs2 is not able to delete files after that. you have to flash your neo again.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">| i moved my logfiles, database and the like to (ext2) sd-card. i keep rootfs at around 50%.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">conclusion: openmoko concentrates on nice gui stuff but the base is missing. i found not one longrunning testcase for one of the bases services of phone functionality. effect of this is the state these services are currently in.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">this is the first impression on a graph from the stats i took today:</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[Image:Drraw.png|neo1973 stats]]</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=== interpretation: ===</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the top line (purple) shows the response time of a ntp request. this includes the name lookup. 2 seconds are quit okay. 10 seconds was the timeout. you can see that even after timeouts the gprs recovered. gprs works reliable fine.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the next line (blue) show the average signal of all seen satelites.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the line below () shows the count of satelites seen.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the next line (green) shows battery voltage. you see linear falling voltage until 5min before shutdown. fine.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the line "sat in use" (brown) shows how many sats are used for gps. 2 are not enough.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the last line (black) on bottom is not seen, its just zero. there is no fix all the time (quit reasonable with 2 satilites in use). i was outside all the time. about 10 satilites where seen. no fix - dont know why..</del>.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div></div></td></tr>
</table>Emdetehttp://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=User:Emdete&diff=28234&oldid=prevEmdete at 20:49, 8 April 20082008-04-08T20:49:21Z<p></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">i started a project called zad months ago and developed a stack of daemons for it. see more at about it at http://neo1973-germany.de/wiki/Zad. i showed it at the fosdem and the developer community showed some interest in it.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== GTA01 first impressions ==</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>I got my neo1973 gta01 some month ago now and want to share my experience with it. Because the gui at that point did not work at all and i was interested to develop an own gui anyway i deinstalled all gui stuff with</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>I got my neo1973 gta01 some month ago now and want to share my experience with it. Because the gui at that point did not work at all and i was interested to develop an own gui anyway i deinstalled all gui stuff with</div></td></tr>
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</table>Emdetehttp://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=User:Emdete&diff=27701&oldid=prevBioGeek: changed expirience into experience2008-03-27T00:00:27Z<p>changed expirience into experience</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>I got my neo1973 gta01 some month ago now and want to share my <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">expiriences </del>with it. Because the gui at that point did not work at all and i was interested to develop an own gui anyway i deinstalled all gui stuff with</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>I got my neo1973 gta01 some month ago now and want to share my <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">experience </ins>with it. Because the gui at that point did not work at all and i was interested to develop an own gui anyway i deinstalled all gui stuff with</div></td></tr>
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</table>BioGeekhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=User:Emdete&diff=22122&oldid=prevEmdete at 22:07, 8 December 20072007-12-08T22:07:18Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>conclusion: openmoko concentrates on nice gui stuff but the base is missing. i found not one longrunning testcase for one of the bases services of phone functionality. effect of this is the state these services are currently in.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>conclusion: openmoko concentrates on nice gui stuff but the base is missing. i found not one longrunning testcase for one of the bases services of phone functionality. effect of this is the state these services are currently in.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== statistics ==</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=== image by rrd ===</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>this is the first impression on a graph from the stats i took today:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>this is the first impression on a graph from the stats i took today:</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>== interpretation: ==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins>== interpretation: <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins>==</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>the top line (purple) shows the response time of a ntp request. this includes the name lookup. 2 seconds are quit okay. 10 seconds was the timeout. you can see that even after timeouts the gprs recovered. gprs works reliable fine.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>the top line (purple) shows the response time of a ntp request. this includes the name lookup. 2 seconds are quit okay. 10 seconds was the timeout. you can see that even after timeouts the gprs recovered. gprs works reliable fine.</div></td></tr>
</table>Emdetehttp://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=User:Emdete&diff=22121&oldid=prevEmdete at 21:55, 8 December 20072007-12-08T21:55:45Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>the top line (purple) shows the response time of a ntp request. this includes the name lookup. 2 seconds are quit okay. 10 seconds was the timeout. you can see that even after timeouts the gprs recovered. gprs works reliable fine.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>the top line (purple) shows the response time of a ntp request. this includes the name lookup. 2 seconds are quit okay. 10 seconds was the timeout. you can see that even after timeouts the gprs recovered. gprs works reliable fine.</div></td></tr>
</table>Emdetehttp://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=User:Emdete&diff=22120&oldid=prevEmdete at 21:55, 8 December 20072007-12-08T21:55:01Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>conclusion: openmoko concentrates on nice gui stuff but the base is missing. i found not one longrunning testcase for one of the bases services of phone functionality. effect of this is the state these services are currently in.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>conclusion: openmoko concentrates on nice gui stuff but the base is missing. i found not one longrunning testcase for one of the bases services of phone functionality. effect of this is the state these services are currently in.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>this <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">i </del>the first impression on a graph from the stats i took today:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>this <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is </ins>the first impression on a graph from the stats i took today:</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the top line (purple) shows the response time of a ntp request. this includes the name lookup. 2 seconds are quit okay. 10 seconds was the timeout. you can see that even after timeouts the gprs recovered. gprs works reliable fine.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the next line (blue) show the average signal of all seen satelites.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the line below () shows the count of satelites seen.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Emdetehttp://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=User:Emdete&diff=22119&oldid=prevEmdete at 19:32, 8 December 20072007-12-08T19:32:23Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>conclusion: openmoko concentrates on nice gui stuff but the base is missing. i found not one longrunning testcase for one of the bases services of phone functionality. effect of this is the state these services are currently in.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>conclusion: openmoko concentrates on nice gui stuff but the base is missing. i found not one longrunning testcase for one of the bases services of phone functionality. effect of this is the state these services are currently in.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Emdetehttp://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=User:Emdete&diff=22116&oldid=prevEmdete at 19:21, 8 December 20072007-12-08T19:21:30Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>conclusion: openmoko concentrates on nice gui stuff but the base is missing. i found not one longrunning testcase for one of the bases services of phone functionality. effect of this is the state these services are currently in.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>conclusion: openmoko concentrates on nice gui stuff but the base is missing. i found not one longrunning testcase for one of the bases services of phone functionality. effect of this is the state these services are currently in.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Emdetehttp://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=User:Emdete&diff=22089&oldid=prevEmdete at 07:48, 8 December 20072007-12-08T07:48:25Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| did not work reliable. clients can't determine the state. i found no documentation when to issue which call (i.e. if you connect but don't get called for pin, when do you call to register into a network). is not able to decode special sms (like initiating sms for mms). sample client libgsmd-tool coredumps all the way. does not use (the glib recommended way) of using dbus.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| did not work reliable. clients can't determine the state. i found no documentation when to issue which call (i.e. if you connect but don't get called for pin, when do you call to register into a network). is not able to decode special sms (like initiating sms for mms). sample client libgsmd-tool coredumps all the way. does not use (the glib recommended way) of using dbus.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| manually playing around shows something that looks like a kernel bug: linux freezes entirely. this is not a bug but a flow problem. switching on/off the modem toggles also a serial device where the kernel loggs. if there is flow control enabled the kernel waits for 'RTS' which never comes without debug board. issue the command `stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 -crtscts` before tampering around with "/sys/bus/ platform/devices/ gta01-pm-gsm.0/power_on".</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| manually playing around shows something that looks like a kernel bug: linux freezes entirely. this is not a bug but a flow problem. switching on/off the modem toggles also a serial device where the kernel loggs. if there is flow control enabled the kernel waits for 'RTS' which never comes without debug board. issue the command `stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 -crtscts` before tampering around with "/sys/bus/ platform/devices/ gta01-pm-gsm.0/power_on".</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| works well if chatscript take over everythink (like pin entry). same problems for auto-detect as mentioned with pan apply.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| works well if chatscript take over everythink (like pin entry). same problems for auto-detect as mentioned with pan apply.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| using the options lcp-echo-interval allowed to keep a connection open over days without any problems.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| using the options lcp-echo-interval allowed to keep a connection open over days without any problems.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| for long running gllin some option must be changed (like named pipe and logfile output) but i never got a reliable fix for a ling time. gllin seems to have a memory leak or the like (after running for several hours cpu usage raised from about 2% to 20%).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| for long running gllin some option must be changed (like named pipe and logfile output) but i never got a reliable fix for a ling time. gllin seems to have a memory leak or the like (after running for several hours cpu usage raised from about 2% to 20%).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| using internet over pan works fine while i did not figure out how to auto-detect the best way into the inter for the neo. i would prefere a fallback-rule like use usb, pan, gprs. libc makes some trouble when changing the nameserver, running processes will use a old one.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| using internet over pan works fine while i did not figure out how to auto-detect the best way into the inter for the neo. i would prefere a fallback-rule like use usb, pan, gprs. libc makes some trouble when changing the nameserver, running processes will use a old one.</div></td></tr>
</table>Emdetehttp://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=User:Emdete&diff=22088&oldid=prevEmdete at 07:41, 8 December 20072007-12-08T07:41:29Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>(i don't remember which one and can't take a look because they are gone on my neo right now). Now i started to check all low-level functionality i thought i would need for my application with simple scripts to start them and python programs to test them (see the edits i made on the pages "manually using [GSM|GPRS|GPS|BT]" here in the wiki). With that basis i was able to do longrunning tests. here is the outcome:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>(i don't remember which one and can't take a look because they are gone on my neo right now). Now i started to check all low-level functionality i thought i would need for my application with simple scripts to start them and python programs to test them (see the edits i made on the pages "manually using [GSM|GPRS|GPS|BT]" here in the wiki). With that basis i was able to do longrunning tests. here is the outcome:</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| did not work reliable. clients can't determine the state. i found no documentation when to issue which call (i.e. if you connect but don't get called for pin, when do you call to register into a network). is not able to decode special sms (like initiating sms for mms). sample client libgsmd-tool coredumps all the way. does not use (the glib recommended way) of using dbus.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| did not work reliable. clients can't determine the state. i found no documentation when to issue which call (i.e. if you connect but don't get called for pin, when do you call to register into a network). is not able to decode special sms (like initiating sms for mms). sample client libgsmd-tool coredumps all the way. does not use (the glib recommended way) of using dbus.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| manually playing around shows something that looks like a kernel bug: linux freezes entirely. this is not a bug but a flow problem. switching on/off the modem toggles also a serial device where the kernel loggs. if there is flow control enabled the kernel waits for 'RTS' which never comes without debug board. issue the command `stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 -crtscts` before tampering around with "/sys/bus/ platform/devices/ gta01-pm-gsm.0/power_on".</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| manually playing around shows something that looks like a kernel bug: linux freezes entirely. this is not a bug but a flow problem. switching on/off the modem toggles also a serial device where the kernel loggs. if there is flow control enabled the kernel waits for 'RTS' which never comes without debug board. issue the command `stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 -crtscts` before tampering around with "/sys/bus/ platform/devices/ gta01-pm-gsm.0/power_on".</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| works well if chatscript take over everythink (like pin entry). same problems for auto-detect as mentioned with pan apply.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| works well if chatscript take over everythink (like pin entry). same problems for auto-detect as mentioned with pan apply.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| for long running gllin some option must be changed (like named pipe and logfile output) but i never got a reliable fix for a ling time. gllin seems to have a memory leak or the like (after running for several hours cpu usage raised from about 2% to 20%).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| for long running gllin some option must be changed (like named pipe and logfile output) but i never got a reliable fix for a ling time. gllin seems to have a memory leak or the like (after running for several hours cpu usage raised from about 2% to 20%).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| switching off logging (option -nmea) and writing to the named pipe (-np) allowed a long running gllin - otherwise the rootfs was filled up fast.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| switching off logging (option -nmea) and writing to the named pipe (-np) allowed a long running gllin - otherwise the rootfs was filled up fast.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| everything here is not documented very well. battemp show -6 (which should be in celsius), chgcur says 17213 (which would be 17A current!) while battvol is decreasing. i often encounter a neo that switches off even if it's connected to usb because the charing does not start.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| everything here is not documented very well. battemp show -6 (which should be in celsius), chgcur says 17213 (which would be 17A current!) while battvol is decreasing. i often encounter a neo that switches off even if it's connected to usb because the charing does not start.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| using internet over pan works fine while i did not figure out how to auto-detect the best way into the inter for the neo. i would prefere a fallback-rule like use usb, pan, gprs. libc makes some trouble when changing the nameserver, running processes will use a old one.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| using internet over pan works fine while i did not figure out how to auto-detect the best way into the inter for the neo. i would prefere a fallback-rule like use usb, pan, gprs. libc makes some trouble when changing the nameserver, running processes will use a old one.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| if the filesystem runs full you are doomed. jffs2 is not able to delete files after that. you have to flash your neo again.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>| if the filesystem runs full you are doomed. jffs2 is not able to delete files after that. you have to flash your neo again.</div></td></tr>
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