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Marko Knöbl: /* Add Om 2009 to the table */

2009-07-15T14:43:07Z

‎Add Om 2009 to the table

Marko Knöbl: /* Add Om 2009 to the table */

2009-07-07T13:43:03Z

‎Add Om 2009 to the table

Tomppeli: /* Add Om 2009 to the table */ new section

2009-07-07T11:11:28Z

‎Add Om 2009 to the table: new section

Mercury: /* Distributions and API stacks */

2009-03-18T19:57:39Z

‎Distributions and API stacks

Mercury: /* Distributions and API stacks */

2009-03-18T19:53:42Z

‎Distributions and API stacks

Mercury: /* Distributions and API stacks */ new section

2009-03-18T19:51:58Z

‎Distributions and API stacks: new section

Colomar: /* 2007.2 and hackable:1 */ new section

2009-02-13T20:37:18Z

‎2007.2 and hackable:1: new section

Marko Knöbl: /* Merging information about 2008.8, 2008.9 and 2008.12 */

2008-12-27T14:02:49Z

‎Merging information about 2008.8, 2008.9 and 2008.12

Janvlug: /* Merging information about 2008.8, 2008.9 and 2008.12 */

2008-12-27T13:10:42Z

‎Merging information about 2008.8, 2008.9 and 2008.12

Marko Knöbl: /* Merging information about 2008.8, 2008.9 and 2008.12 */ new section

2008-12-22T14:15:22Z

‎Merging information about 2008.8, 2008.9 and 2008.12: new section

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	:Om 2009 was developped from the FSO images, which are not released anymore. I think we should replace the coloumn "FSO" in the table with "Om 2009" and update the table accordingly. It would be great if you could do that!--[[User:Marko Knöbl\|Marko Knöbl]] 13:43, 7 July 2009 (UTC)		:Om 2009 was developped from the FSO images, which are not released anymore. I think we should replace the coloumn "FSO" in the table with "Om 2009" and update the table accordingly. It would be great if you could do that!--[[User:Marko Knöbl\|Marko Knöbl]] 13:43, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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		+	::Sorry, what I said was not entirely correct: FSO images are still released. However according to [[OpenmokoFramework/Status Update 7]] they "are not distributions per se, but rather demonstration images for the middleware release." Therefore I removed the FSO coloumn. --[[User:Marko Knöbl\|Marko Knöbl]] 14:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

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	Shouldn't Om 2009 be in the table? I think I can add it to the table but I was just asking some kind of confirmation... --[[User:Tomppeli\|Tomppeli]] 11:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)		Shouldn't Om 2009 be in the table? I think I can add it to the table but I was just asking some kind of confirmation... --[[User:Tomppeli\|Tomppeli]] 11:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:Om 2009 was developped from the FSO images, which are not released anymore. I think we should replace the coloumn "FSO" in the table with "Om 2009" and update the table accordingly. It would be great if you could do that!--[[User:Marko Knöbl\|Marko Knöbl]] 13:43, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

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	[[User:Mercury\|Mercury]] 19:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)		[[User:Mercury\|Mercury]] 19:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Add Om 2009 to the table ==
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		+	Shouldn't Om 2009 be in the table? I think I can add it to the table but I was just asking some kind of confirmation... --[[User:Tomppeli\|Tomppeli]] 11:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

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 |Freesmartphone.org (FSO) Framework
-|Stable Hybrid Release (SHR) Gnome Mobile Stack
+|Gnome Mobile Stack
 |Qtopia-X11
 |Android
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 |NO
 |-
-|Debian
+|SHR
 |YES
 |NO
 |NO
 |NO
 |}

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 |Freesmartphone.org (FSO) Framework
-|Stable Hybrid Release (SHR) Stack
+|Stable Hybrid Release (SHR) Gnome Mobile Stack
 |Qtopia-X11
 |Android

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	I removed the statement that SHR continues using 2007.2s phone stack becuse it doesn't anymore. But maybe one could mention here that hackable:1 uses the same GUI framework (GNOME mobile), so people who liked the GUI should have a look at it.		I removed the statement that SHR continues using 2007.2s phone stack becuse it doesn't anymore. But maybe one could mention here that hackable:1 uses the same GUI framework (GNOME mobile), so people who liked the GUI should have a look at it.
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		+	== Distributions and API stacks ==
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		+	We should probably clarify some language for the viewers of this page. For example, it has FSO, Android, etc. down as distributions. It's true that they have reference distributions, but those stacks also run on other distributions.
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		+	For example, FSO can run under debian, and SHR can run under gentoo.
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		+	'''Distribution''' means what it sounds like. It's tools and media for distributing (and in some cases booting and managing) software. (e.g. Gentoo, Openmoko-Angstrom, and Debian) The software that runs on it can be anything that the distribution supports, and in most cases multiple platforms are supported as well, so they're not relegated to just openmoko phones, or even palmtops.
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		+	'''Smartphone API Stack''' is what you call software that makes it capable of acting as a cell phone, and will also provide services for people to implement smart phone aware application software. Generally this software does not include or specify a distribution. They're pretty much distribution agnostic, and the distributions they ship with are just example reference distributions. Some of them may have the weight of the original developers behind them (Android, in fact, is probably too intertwined with its distribution, and may take a project to get it running under gentoo/debian/angstrom/etc.), but that doesn't mean that we should start confusing the stack and the distribution as if they were one entity.
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		+	And finally, '''Binary Images''' or '''Binary Distributions''' are probably the best terms to use for software such as Om2008.12, which are ready-to-go root filesystem images which represent both a distribution, AND a stack. Obviously they bare mentioning on the Distributions wiki page very prominently, but we should take the time to point out that they don't represent the traditional concept of a linux distribution.
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		+	(Also, FSO has another layer on top of its API stack which controls the dialer and such. For example, zhone and paroli, and other API stacks can be modified to work on top of FSO.. so that kinda complicates things :p)
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		+	If anyone objects to me editing this page to reflect this, let me know :) I'll give it a while to see if anyone disagrees with me before making any changes.
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		+	Also there should probably be a little chart of which distributions support which stacks (Which will change over time as different stacks get packaged under different distros). i.e.:
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		+	{\| border=1
		+	\|
		+	\|Freesmartphone.org (FSO) Framework
		+	\|Stable Hybrid Release (SHR) Stack
		+	\|Qtopia-X11
		+	\|Android
		+	\|-
		+	\|Openmoko (Modified Angstrom Linux)
		+	\|NO
		+	\|NO
		+	\|YES
		+	\|NO
		+	\|-
		+	\|Android
		+	\|NO
		+	\|NO
		+	\|NO
		+	\|YES
		+	\|-
		+	\|FSO Reference Distribution (Modified Angstrom Linux)
		+	\|YES
		+	\|NO
		+	\|NO
		+	\|NO
		+	\|-
		+	\|Gentoo
		+	\|YES
		+	\|YES
		+	\|NO
		+	\|NO
		+	\|-
		+	\|Debian
		+	\|YES
		+	\|NO
		+	\|NO
		+	\|NO
		+	\|}
		+
		+	... etc etc. only colored up nice like :p
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		+	[[User:Mercury\|Mercury]] 19:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

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	:I chose to name it Om 2008.8 because I thought this was the more general name which was sometimes used to describe all the versions of this distribution. Looking through some posts on the mailing list I also saw the term "Om 2008" being used a few times to describe these versions of Om. I think using just "Om 2008" would be most appropriate. Can we settle on using this term? --[[User:Marko Knöbl\|Marko Knöbl]] 14:02, 27 December 2008 (UTC)		:I chose to name it Om 2008.8 because I thought this was the more general name which was sometimes used to describe all the versions of this distribution. Looking through some posts on the mailing list I also saw the term "Om 2008" being used a few times to describe these versions of Om. I think using just "Om 2008" would be most appropriate. Can we settle on using this term? --[[User:Marko Knöbl\|Marko Knöbl]] 14:02, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
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		+	== 2007.2 and hackable:1 ==
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		+	I removed the statement that SHR continues using 2007.2s phone stack becuse it doesn't anymore. But maybe one could mention here that hackable:1 uses the same GUI framework (GNOME mobile), so people who liked the GUI should have a look at it.

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 == Merging information about 2008.8, 2008.9 and 2008.12 ==
-I think we should merge the columns about the different versions of 2008.8 as these are not different distributions, but different versions. After all, there we don't have seperate columns for the FSO milestones either. What do you think about this? --[[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]] 14:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
+I think we should merge the columns about the different versions of 2008.8 as these are not different distributions. After all, we don't have seperate columns for the FSO milestones either. What do you think about this? --[[User:Marko Knöbl|Marko Knöbl]] 14:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 [[User:Janvlug|Janvlug]] 13:10, 27 December 2008 (UTC) -- Why is the column name 2008.8 instead of 2008.12? Shouldn't it be better to present the features of the latest release: 2008.12 instead of 2008.8?

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	I think we should merge the columns about the different versions of 2008.8 as these are not different distributions, but different versions. After all, there we don't have seperate columns for the FSO milestones either. What do you think about this? --[[User:Marko Knöbl\|Marko Knöbl]] 14:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)		I think we should merge the columns about the different versions of 2008.8 as these are not different distributions, but different versions. After all, there we don't have seperate columns for the FSO milestones either. What do you think about this? --[[User:Marko Knöbl\|Marko Knöbl]] 14:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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		+	[[User:Janvlug\|Janvlug]] 13:10, 27 December 2008 (UTC) -- Why is the column name 2008.8 instead of 2008.12? Shouldn't it be better to present the features of the latest release: 2008.12 instead of 2008.8?

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	I suggest that Power management features (support for standby, suspend, management software) should appear in the table. I'm not adding them, as I only know 2007.2, but maybe you could. -- [[User:Relet\|Relet]] 12:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)		I suggest that Power management features (support for standby, suspend, management software) should appear in the table. I'm not adding them, as I only know 2007.2, but maybe you could. -- [[User:Relet\|Relet]] 12:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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		+	== Merging information about 2008.8, 2008.9 and 2008.12 ==
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		+	I think we should merge the columns about the different versions of 2008.8 as these are not different distributions, but different versions. After all, there we don't have seperate columns for the FSO milestones either. What do you think about this? --[[User:Marko Knöbl\|Marko Knöbl]] 14:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)