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There are two areas in which other OSes can take a part in OpenMoko.
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There are two areas in which other OSes can take a part in [[OpenMoko]].
First, not everybody will use Linux to download (and/or develop) software into their phones; we call this the Host OS.
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First, not everybody will use Linux on the computer to access their phones (including download and develop software); we call this the ''host OS''.
Secondly, it is possible that some people may wish to run alternate OSes on their phone itself.
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Second, some people may wish to run some other software than OpenMoko on their devices, and especially other Linux distributions should be viable.
  
== Alternate Host OS ==
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== Alternative host OS ==
  
 
=== Microsoft Windows ===
 
=== Microsoft Windows ===
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[[User:Idarwin|Ian Darwin]] has a port of dfu-util partly working (list works but not download).
 
[[User:Idarwin|Ian Darwin]] has a port of dfu-util partly working (list works but not download).
  
== Alternate Software In the Neo Phone ==
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== Alternative software for the Neo1973 phone ==
  
The OpenMoko project has invested a lot of time & energy in making the OpenMoko software stack work nicely on the Neo1973 phone. But it is your phone and, unlike most providers, they will not stop you from running whatever you like on the "bare metal" of the phone itself. And some people are never satisfied with a device until they've flashed the firmware multiple times. Here are some alternatives.
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The OpenMoko project has invested a lot of time & energy in making the OpenMoko software stack work nicely on the Neo1973 phone. But it is your phone and, unlike most providers, we will not stop you from running whatever you like on the "bare metal" of the phone itself. And some people are never satisfied with a device until they've flashed the firmware multiple times. Here are some alternatives.
  
=== Other Linux Distros ===
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=== Other Linux distributions ===
  
 
* JavaFX Mobile -- At JavaOne, Sun demonstrated JavaFX running in the phone. Although based on a similar Linux kernel, this is a completely different user-mode stack.
 
* JavaFX Mobile -- At JavaOne, Sun demonstrated JavaFX running in the phone. Although based on a similar Linux kernel, this is a completely different user-mode stack.
*[[Angstrom_on_Neo1973|Angstrom]]
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*[[Angstrom on Neo1973]]
 
*[http://www.o-hand.com OpenedHand] provides http://pokylinux.org/
 
*[http://www.o-hand.com OpenedHand] provides http://pokylinux.org/
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*Trolltech provides [[Qtopia on Neo1973]]
  
 
=== Windows CE? ===
 
=== Windows CE? ===
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e.g. OpenBSD or maybe [[FreeBSD]] or [[NetBSD]]?
 
e.g. OpenBSD or maybe [[FreeBSD]] or [[NetBSD]]?
  
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== See also ==
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* [[OpenMoko-supported hardware]]
  
 
[[Category:Developer software]]
 
[[Category:Developer software]]

Revision as of 23:33, 25 November 2007

There are two areas in which other OSes can take a part in OpenMoko. First, not everybody will use Linux on the computer to access their phones (including download and develop software); we call this the host OS. Second, some people may wish to run some other software than OpenMoko on their devices, and especially other Linux distributions should be viable.

Contents

Alternative host OS

Microsoft Windows

(link to this page...)

Mac OS X

Covered elsewhere; see MacOS_X. They have dfu-util and ether-gadget working.

FreeBSD

qemu-neo1973 works see Talk:OpenMoko_under_QEMU#FreeBSD_and_last_qemu.... Nothing else known. See FreeBSD

NetBSD

We have an experimental NetBSD/evbarm Neo1973 kernel booting on Qemu Neo1973 emulator on NetBSD.

OpenBSD

The umodem(4) driver works with the u-boot console. When the umodem driver claims device 0x1457:0x5118, it becomes inaccessible to libusb-based applications such as dfu-util. The cdce(4) driver works "out of the box" with OpenMoko's ethergadget interface, so you can ssh in, run remote X clients, scp in or out, etc.

Ian Darwin has a port of dfu-util partly working (list works but not download).

Alternative software for the Neo1973 phone

The OpenMoko project has invested a lot of time & energy in making the OpenMoko software stack work nicely on the Neo1973 phone. But it is your phone and, unlike most providers, we will not stop you from running whatever you like on the "bare metal" of the phone itself. And some people are never satisfied with a device until they've flashed the firmware multiple times. Here are some alternatives.

Other Linux distributions

Windows CE?

Windows CE runs on some Arm-based handhelds, so it is theoretically possible.

Other OSes?

Anything other than Linux or WinCE?

e.g. OpenBSD or maybe FreeBSD or NetBSD?

See also

Personal tools

There are two areas in which other OSes can take a part in OpenMoko. First, not everybody will use Linux to download (and/or develop) software into their phones; we call this the Host OS. Secondly, it is possible that some people may wish to run alternate OSes on their phone itself.

Alternate Host OS

Microsoft Windows

(link to this page...)

Mac OS X

Covered elsewhere; see MacOS_X. They have dfu-util and ether-gadget working.

FreeBSD

qemu-neo1973 works see Talk:OpenMoko_under_QEMU#FreeBSD_and_last_qemu.... Nothing else known. See FreeBSD

NetBSD

We have an experimental NetBSD/evbarm Neo1973 kernel booting on Qemu Neo1973 emulator on NetBSD.

OpenBSD

The umodem(4) driver works with the u-boot console. When the umodem driver claims device 0x1457:0x5118, it becomes inaccessible to libusb-based applications such as dfu-util. The cdce(4) driver works "out of the box" with OpenMoko's ethergadget interface, so you can ssh in, run remote X clients, scp in or out, etc.

Ian Darwin has a port of dfu-util partly working (list works but not download).

Alternate Software In the Neo Phone

The OpenMoko project has invested a lot of time & energy in making the OpenMoko software stack work nicely on the Neo1973 phone. But it is your phone and, unlike most providers, they will not stop you from running whatever you like on the "bare metal" of the phone itself. And some people are never satisfied with a device until they've flashed the firmware multiple times. Here are some alternatives.

Other Linux Distros

  • JavaFX Mobile -- At JavaOne, Sun demonstrated JavaFX running in the phone. Although based on a similar Linux kernel, this is a completely different user-mode stack.
  • Angstrom
  • OpenedHand provides http://pokylinux.org/

Windows CE?

Windows CE runs on some Arm-based handhelds, so it is theoretically possible.

Other OSes?

Anything other than Linux or WinCE?

e.g. OpenBSD or maybe FreeBSD or NetBSD?