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Alternate case for the Neo1973, with rear-mounted camera module.

Contents

Concept

A flexible phone is desired that meets most users needs. Camera module should be easily installed or removed (and left in the car) for people that are unable to take cameras into work.

cs mount camera

  • allows use of any standard cs mount (or other lenses with adapters) for superior optical focus & zoom
  • cs mount is used because it can be converted to use c mount lenses with a 5mm extension tube
  • surface of focal plane array is 12.52mm below top of surface (requiring less room than c mount or many other standard lenses)
  • module faces can be exchanged to allow operation in either camera or video-conferencing mode
  • lens can easily be unscrewed, converting the image sensor into a useless memory, and replaced with a c/cs mount cap. -- This could disable camera & allow people to bring the phone into work (or you could just remove the entire module)

A strong LED could be used as a close range flash. An ambient light sensor could automatically control this function. This could also be used as a torch.

Rendered images

cs mount camera (also works with c mount lenses)

Neo1973 cs-mount Camera Expansion Module Quicktime rendering
Neo1973-ExpCamCS.png

3D model

cs mount camera

Neo1973 Art of Illusion 3D Model - Not fully accurate, just an artistic concept.

Materials

  • 1 Camera with about 3MP or more for making pictures
  • 1 Camera for video conferences.

cs mount camera

  • Aluminum top front of case cover could allow 1" x 32tpi lens mount hole (3.8mm threaded down from surface) made directly into cover.

Processes

Stereolithography

Components

Camera module with protection
At least 3 Mpx, autofocus!

Interest

Leave your nickname here if you are interested in having one made. This is not an order form, but is intended to gauge interest before effort is expended designing the case.

  1. changzer maybe it could look nicer than that, but anyway, a camera would be so sweet on this phone
  2. cyber_kostyan
  3. Bootlessjam
  4. Diatessaron
  5. Thomas Mathiesen
  6. Gizmhail
  7. Fisticuffs
  8. Daniel
  9. Deedend
  10. Aztlek
  11. Mikesd -- Needs to swivel or at very least have a self portrait mirror. FLASH and VIDEO mandatory.
  12. Filippo
  13. beady
  14. wvrn -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone
  15. yvanxxx
  16. amarov
  17. cedel
  18. gwylim
  19. Humberto Massa
  20. hhf423
  21. Fursund
  22. Bubbi
  23. Drizzt
  24. Pajamabama
  25. vozka
  26. dlejeune
  27. AnyWare
  28. kresp0
  29. sin
  30. DjAlxor
  31. Kf
  32. Kylegordon
  33. Oatty
  34. nericastillogioleo
  35. Fradeve11
  36. solid -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. [UPDATE]I posted this comment several months ago. My first generation razr is gimping along. The exterior screen is completely busted and the lcd looks like a purple blob. I am holding off on buying a new phone until I can get a smart phone that replaces all the personal gadgets I have to carry. I need a phone that is a personal music player,a camera and a phone. Having a phone that is deficient in any of the above functions makes it less than smart. I am running out of time. My phone is in worst shape every day. Please just tell us there is a camera in the works, Otherwise I will be buying a non-linux smart phone.
  37. Globbi
  38. Madoon
  39. Thomasgruebler -- 3MP would be cool
  40. Blastur
  41. Tommiku -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone
  42. ShakataGaNai — it would be nice option to have
  43. Bugmenot -- The finishing touch to make it the perfect phone :)
  44. rydell -- Definitely the only missing feature! (And a near-critical one)
  45. PrtSoftware
  46. bob127 -- 3MP would be really nice, I'm also a developer for a phone-related company, I could recommend this phone if it has a camera.
  47. Z -- Our company would like to develop applications for this phone, the only thing that's stopping us is the lack of a camera
  48. dyous87 --A camera would make this the perfect phone for me and I would surely buy it.
  49. Massi -- 3MP would be cool
  50. jcdemay -- a missing feature, don't care if it's not a great one, just need one ;)
  51. pokazene_maslo -- with flashlight
  52. Jackcday -- I think it needs a camera, would be great if it could have a very high MPX camera with good software so you could use it as a proper camera.
  53. flexd -- This would be excellent for a idea of mine, camera + gps + wifi/gprs/3g/edge fun! :)
  54. Duker Would be awesome, especially if the camera (lens component) were removable for those pf us who can't have cameras at work (or court)
  55. PipBoy2000
  56. Merire I really want this phone, but I'm not gonna buy one if I can't get a cam.
  57. totoro
  58. bacardi55
  59. jplaville
  60. v0n0
  61. massoo -- A Camera integrated is really cool which will enable to have unified personal gizmo.
  62. conbart
  63. calavicci Like others, a camera is all I need to buy the phone.
  64. methril It's an usefull extra feature.
  65. yorick The lack of a camera is a very big disadvantage of this phone (compared to a HTC P3600 for example)
  66. Yota_VGA Absolutely needed!
  67. Treviño A phone doesn't need a camera, but it could be useful to grab fun moments!
  68. Daverix My mobile is the only thing a use to take pictures!
  69. snizfast Would also like a flash unless its good at night
  70. Oisin Mulvihill I second the 3MP camera and gps so you could geo-tag where the pictures are which is very handy when you want to get back to an interesting place you've come across.
  71. dborba 3MP would be ideal.
  72. gumpish -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. Every day I pray for the sanity of the development team and that they will realize that any phone that costs over $100USD and doesn't have a camera is worse than useless!
  73. Martix
  74. Michal Bořek
  75. Setr
  76. Byte Smyðe -- Waiting for a camera before I buy one...
  77. Yogiz -- I'll but GTA02 even without the camera but a good 2mpx+ camera would in my opinion add a lot. I'd like to use it for example to photograph A4 documents in high contrast and feed the pictures to tesseract OCR. It would also be good for use in tandem with gps to add pictures to openstreetmap. Of course sometimes you just need to take a quick picture.
  78. Axel
  79. Weber Perdigão Macedo*I am interested. I have experience with embedded computer vision programming, and I can help on it. Feel free to contact me.
  80. Pedro Silva Camera is a must, 3MP or more. Maybe two cameras, most 3G mobile phones have one high resolution camera for photos/video and another VGA camera for video call.
  81. LorekThe camera is the only thing that is missing in this phone.
  82. DeweyThis is a great idea! If designed properly, this could be a higher quality camera than most integrated phone cameras. If you leave it in the car, then you will have a camera that you can use in case of an accident. Being detachable, it would be perfect for when camera phones are not allowed when visiting companies on business.
  83. Theocrite Sounds good. It might be really easier to have pictures associated with contacts on the phone (without using a computer every time). Also it's a good thing to have a camera with you when you didn't expect to have something that needs a camera. I'm worried about the place it might take though. On the picture shown above it seems big. Even if it's removable, it might be something harder to carry.
  84. Ulcha
  85. Tehsagemaster Waiting for the camera then I'll be buying one. 2MP is old in my opinion, up to 3MP min or prefer 5MP. Detachable be nice, but not required. Add focus lenses be nice to, but atleast a decent zoom and a bright led flash. Something to cover the lense if possible
  86. vandykee Is anyone taking the lead on this? Are there any resources around for something like this that we can put together? Have much to add to this discussion. will be back often.
  87. jordan would buy a bunch of these in a heartbeat if they had cameras. very interested in this device (or the freerunner) for wearable computing device research, but need a camera, or at least good webcam support.
  88. remd Same as Solid. I just trashed my w960 phone, and I would buy an openmoko phone right now if it had a camera. So Im sticking to my old w800 for now, and wait a little, but I'll have to get a new phone soon. The main things I use my phone for is calling, music listening(mp3+radio), wifi and email/web browsing, calendar, and the camera. And I use the "on flight" mode often, I can browse my mails locally, look at my pictures, see or edit pdf, xls, doc files and mainly listen to music on the plane.
  89. nebulo If Openmoko FreeRunner would include a camera with at least 2MP I would buy one instantly and throw away my SE P1i. I love the idea behind Openmoko and except for the missing camera and 3G (which is not a critical issue) the OM FreeRunner seems to be my dream-mobilephone.
  90. MiraThe camera is the only thing that is missing in this phone.
  91. north5As soon as this phone has a camera I will buy it ...
  92. GoJianCamera is really important for a phone actually--i use it so often.
  93. petitdragonThe only reason why I did not buy an openmoko phone is that it has no camera ...
  94. Polk1986 I am thinking about buying an OpenMoko, and would love to have a barcode scanning application like the G1 or iPhone. Unfortunately, there isn't a phone right now. I would be willing to help with mechanical design, but am unsure I have the appropriate coding ability to interface the camera with the rest of the phone.
  95. Steffen Cannot sell the phone to myself (or to family) without the camera, just don't skip any of its other features becaues of a camera being added, which are also important. If the camera is plugable, then consider to make that plug future-proof, i.e. allow for higher resolutions and various adapters over time. Please discuss to have a second camera attached or attachable. This will help with 3D vision and an improved coding of a depth of field into the image.
  96. Joe Like so many have said before - I would buy this phone if it had a camera. The possibilities are endless, and you are going to have a lot of consumers for whom a camera is a must-have on a phone.
  97. Luk156
  98. CedarCreekSoftware With a camera many interesting development possibilities open up. For example, with a camera I can read barcodes - now I have a device to take inventory with. Or if I work in a resturant, I snap the barcode on the table, then take the table's order, the order is wirelessly transmitted back to the kitchen. Once the order is complete, my 'phone' dings, and the display shows the table whose order is ready.
  99. matijjaGood idea, but it must be better design.
Personal tools

Alternate case for the Neo1973, with rear-mounted camera module.

Concept

A flexible phone is desired that meets most users needs. Camera module should be easily installed or removed (and left in the car) for people that are unable to take cameras into work.

cs mount camera

  • allows use of any standard cs mount (or other lenses with adapters) for superior optical focus & zoom
  • cs mount is used because it can be converted to use c mount lenses with a 5mm extension tube
  • surface of focal plane array is 12.52mm below top of surface (requiring less room than c mount or many other standard lenses)
  • module faces can be exchanged to allow operation in either camera or video-conferencing mode
  • lens can easily be unscrewed, converting the image sensor into a useless memory, and replaced with a c/cs mount cap. -- This could disable camera & allow people to bring the phone into work (or you could just remove the entire module)

A strong LED could be used as a close range flash. An ambient light sensor could automatically control this function. This could also be used as a torch.

Rendered images

cs mount camera (also works with c mount lenses)

Neo1973 cs-mount Camera Expansion Module Quicktime rendering
Neo1973-ExpCamCS.png

3D model

cs mount camera

Neo1973 Art of Illusion 3D Model - Not fully accurate, just an artistic concept.

Materials

  • 1 Camera with about 3MP or more for making pictures
  • 1 Camera for video conferences.

cs mount camera

  • Aluminum top front of case cover could allow 1" x 32tpi lens mount hole (3.8mm threaded down from surface) made directly into cover.

Processes

Stereolithography

Components

Camera module with protection
At least 3 Mpx, autofocus!

Interest

Leave your nickname here if you are interested in having one made. This is not an order form, but is intended to gauge interest before effort is expended designing the case.

  1. changzer maybe it could look nicer than that, but anyway, a camera would be so sweet on this phone
  2. cyber_kostyan
  3. Bootlessjam
  4. Diatessaron
  5. Thomas Mathiesen
  6. Gizmhail
  7. Fisticuffs
  8. Daniel
  9. Deedend
  10. Aztlek
  11. Mikesd -- Needs to swivel or at very least have a self portrait mirror. FLASH and VIDEO mandatory.
  12. Filippo
  13. beady
  14. wvrn -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone
  15. yvanxxx
  16. amarov
  17. cedel
  18. gwylim
  19. Humberto Massa
  20. hhf423
  21. Fursund
  22. Bubbi
  23. Drizzt
  24. Pajamabama
  25. vozka
  26. dlejeune
  27. AnyWare
  28. kresp0
  29. sin
  30. DjAlxor
  31. Kf
  32. Kylegordon
  33. Oatty
  34. nericastillogioleo
  35. Fradeve11
  36. solid -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. [UPDATE]I posted this comment several months ago. My first generation razr is gimping along. The exterior screen is completely busted and the lcd looks like a purple blob. I am holding off on buying a new phone until I can get a smart phone that replaces all the personal gadgets I have to carry. I need a phone that is a personal music player,a camera and a phone. Having a phone that is deficient in any of the above functions makes it less than smart. I am running out of time. My phone is in worst shape every day. Please just tell us there is a camera in the works, Otherwise I will be buying a non-linux smart phone.
  37. Globbi
  38. Madoon
  39. Thomasgruebler -- 3MP would be cool
  40. Blastur
  41. Tommiku -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone
  42. ShakataGaNai — it would be nice option to have
  43. Bugmenot -- The finishing touch to make it the perfect phone :)
  44. rydell -- Definitely the only missing feature! (And a near-critical one)
  45. PrtSoftware
  46. bob127 -- 3MP would be really nice, I'm also a developer for a phone-related company, I could recommend this phone if it has a camera.
  47. Z -- Our company would like to develop applications for this phone, the only thing that's stopping us is the lack of a camera
  48. dyous87 --A camera would make this the perfect phone for me and I would surely buy it.
  49. Massi -- 3MP would be cool
  50. jcdemay -- a missing feature, don't care if it's not a great one, just need one ;)
  51. pokazene_maslo -- with flashlight
  52. Jackcday -- I think it needs a camera, would be great if it could have a very high MPX camera with good software so you could use it as a proper camera.
  53. flexd -- This would be excellent for a idea of mine, camera + gps + wifi/gprs/3g/edge fun! :)
  54. Duker Would be awesome, especially if the camera (lens component) were removable for those pf us who can't have cameras at work (or court)
  55. PipBoy2000
  56. Merire I really want this phone, but I'm not gonna buy one if I can't get a cam.
  57. totoro
  58. bacardi55
  59. jplaville
  60. v0n0
  61. massoo -- A Camera integrated is really cool which will enable to have unified personal gizmo.
  62. conbart
  63. calavicci Like others, a camera is all I need to buy the phone.
  64. methril It's an usefull extra feature.
  65. yorick The lack of a camera is a very big disadvantage of this phone (compared to a HTC P3600 for example)
  66. Yota_VGA Absolutely needed!
  67. Treviño A phone doesn't need a camera, but it could be useful to grab fun moments!
  68. Daverix My mobile is the only thing a use to take pictures!
  69. snizfast Would also like a flash unless its good at night
  70. Oisin Mulvihill I second the 3MP camera and gps so you could geo-tag where the pictures are which is very handy when you want to get back to an interesting place you've come across.
  71. dborba 3MP would be ideal.
  72. gumpish -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. Every day I pray for the sanity of the development team and that they will realize that any phone that costs over $100USD and doesn't have a camera is worse than useless!
  73. Martix
  74. Michal Bořek
  75. Setr
  76. Byte Smyðe -- Waiting for a camera before I buy one...
  77. Yogiz -- I'll but GTA02 even without the camera but a good 2mpx+ camera would in my opinion add a lot. I'd like to use it for example to photograph A4 documents in high contrast and feed the pictures to tesseract OCR. It would also be good for use in tandem with gps to add pictures to openstreetmap. Of course sometimes you just need to take a quick picture.
  78. Axel
  79. Weber Perdigão Macedo*I am interested. I have experience with embedded computer vision programming, and I can help on it. Feel free to contact me.
  80. Pedro Silva Camera is a must, 3MP or more. Maybe two cameras, most 3G mobile phones have one high resolution camera for photos/video and another VGA camera for video call.
  81. LorekThe camera is the only thing that is missing in this phone.
  82. DeweyThis is a great idea! If designed properly, this could be a higher quality camera than most integrated phone cameras. If you leave it in the car, then you will have a camera that you can use in case of an accident. Being detachable, it would be perfect for when camera phones are not allowed when visiting companies on business.
  83. Theocrite Sounds good. It might be really easier to have pictures associated with contacts on the phone (without using a computer every time). Also it's a good thing to have a camera with you when you didn't expect to have something that needs a camera. I'm worried about the place it might take though. On the picture shown above it seems big. Even if it's removable, it might be something harder to carry.
  84. Ulcha
  85. Tehsagemaster Waiting for the camera then I'll be buying one. 2MP is old in my opinion, up to 3MP min or prefer 5MP. Detachable be nice, but not required. Add focus lenses be nice to, but atleast a decent zoom and a bright led flash. Something to cover the lense if possible
  86. vandykee Is anyone taking the lead on this? Are there any resources around for something like this that we can put together? Have much to add to this discussion. will be back often.
  87. jordan would buy a bunch of these in a heartbeat if they had cameras. very interested in this device (or the freerunner) for wearable computing device research, but need a camera, or at least good webcam support.
  88. remd Same as Solid. I just trashed my w960 phone, and I would buy an openmoko phone right now if it had a camera. So Im sticking to my old w800 for now, and wait a little, but I'll have to get a new phone soon. The main things I use my phone for is calling, music listening(mp3+radio), wifi and email/web browsing, calendar, and the camera. And I use the "on flight" mode often, I can browse my mails locally, look at my pictures, see or edit pdf, xls, doc files and mainly listen to music on the plane.
  89. nebulo If Openmoko FreeRunner would include a camera with at least 2MP I would buy one instantly and throw away my SE P1i. I love the idea behind Openmoko and except for the missing camera and 3G (which is not a critical issue) the OM FreeRunner seems to be my dream-mobilephone.
  90. MiraThe camera is the only thing that is missing in this phone.
  91. north5As soon as this phone has a camera I will buy it ...
  92. GoJianCamera is really important for a phone actually--i use it so often.
  93. petitdragonThe only reason why I did not buy an openmoko phone is that it has no camera ...
  94. Polk1986 I am thinking about buying an OpenMoko, and would love to have a barcode scanning application like the G1 or iPhone. Unfortunately, there isn't a phone right now. I would be willing to help with mechanical design, but am unsure I have the appropriate coding ability to interface the camera with the rest of the phone.
  95. Steffen Cannot sell the phone to myself (or to family) without the camera, just don't skip any of its other features becaues of a camera being added, which are also important. If the camera is plugable, then consider to make that plug future-proof, i.e. allow for higher resolutions and various adapters over time. Please discuss to have a second camera attached or attachable. This will help with 3D vision and an improved coding of a depth of field into the image.
  96. Joe Like so many have said before - I would buy this phone if it had a camera. The possibilities are endless, and you are going to have a lot of consumers for whom a camera is a must-have on a phone.
  97. Luk156
  98. CedarCreekSoftware With a camera many interesting development possibilities open up. For example, with a camera I can read barcodes - now I have a device to take inventory with. Or if I work in a resturant, I snap the barcode on the table, then take the table's order, the order is wirelessly transmitted back to the kitchen. Once the order is complete, my 'phone' dings, and the display shows the table whose order is ready.
  99. matijjaGood idea, but it must be better design.