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#[[User:Dewey| Dewey]]This is a great idea!  If designed properly, this could be a higher quality camera than most integrated phone cameras.  If you leave it in the car, then you will have a camera that you can use in case of an accident.  Being detachable, it would be perfect for when camera phones are not allowed when visiting companies on business.
 
#[[User:Dewey| Dewey]]This is a great idea!  If designed properly, this could be a higher quality camera than most integrated phone cameras.  If you leave it in the car, then you will have a camera that you can use in case of an accident.  Being detachable, it would be perfect for when camera phones are not allowed when visiting companies on business.
 
# [[User:Theocrite|Theocrite]] Sounds good. It might be really easier to have pictures associated with contacts on the phone (without using a computer every time). Also it's a good thing to have a camera with you when you didn't expect to have something that needs a camera. I'm worried about the place it might take though. On the picture shown above it seems big. Even if it's removable, it might be something harder to carry.
 
# [[User:Theocrite|Theocrite]] Sounds good. It might be really easier to have pictures associated with contacts on the phone (without using a computer every time). Also it's a good thing to have a camera with you when you didn't expect to have something that needs a camera. I'm worried about the place it might take though. On the picture shown above it seems big. Even if it's removable, it might be something harder to carry.
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#[[User:Ulcha|Ulcha]]

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Alternate case for the Neo1973, with rear-mounted camera module.

Contents

Concept

A flexible phone is desired that meets most users needs. Camera module should be easily installed or removed (and left in the car) for people that are unable to take cameras into work.

cs mount camera

  • allows use of any standard cs mount (or other lenses with adapters) for superior optical focus & zoom
  • cs mount is used because it can be converted to use c mount lenses with a 5mm extension tube
  • surface of focal plane array is 12.52mm below top of surface (requiring less room than c mount or many other standard lenses)
  • module faces can be exchanged to allow operation in either camera or video-conferencing mode
  • lens can easily be unscrewed, converting the image sensor into a useless memory, and replaced with a c/cs mount cap. -- This could disable camera & allow people to bring the phone into work (or you could just remove the entire module)

A strong LED could be used as a close range flash. An ambient light sensor could automatically control this function. This could also be used as a torch.

Rendered images

cs mount camera (also works with c mount lenses)

Neo1973 cs-mount Camera Expansion Module Quicktime rendering
Neo1973-ExpCamCS.png

3D model

cs mount camera

Neo1973 Art of Illusion 3D Model - Not fully accurate, just an artistic concept.

Materials

  • 1 Camera with about 2MP or more for making pictures
  • 1 Camera for video conferences.

cs mount camera

  • Aluminum top front of case cover could allow 1" x 32tpi lens mount hole (3.8mm threaded down from surface) made directly into cover.

Processes

Stereolithography

Components

Camera module with protection
At least 2 Mpx.

Interest

Leave your nickname here if you are interested in having one made. This is not an order form, but is intended to gauge interest before effort is expended designing the case.

  1. changzer maybe it could look nicer than that, but anyway, a camera would be so sweet on this phone
  2. Bootlessjam
  3. Diatessaron
  4. Thomas Mathiesen
  5. Gizmhail
  6. Fisticuffs
  7. Daniel
  8. Deedend
  9. Aztlek
  10. Mikesd
  11. Filippo
  12. beady
  13. wvrn -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone
  14. yvanxxx
  15. amarov
  16. cedel
  17. gwylim
  18. Humberto Massa
  19. hhf423
  20. Fursund
  21. Bubbi
  22. Drizzt
  23. Pajamabama
  24. vozka
  25. dlejeune
  26. AnyWare
  27. kresp0
  28. sin
  29. DjAlxor
  30. Kf
  31. Kylegordon
  32. Oatty
  33. nericastillogioleo
  34. Fradeve11
  35. solid -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. [UPDATE]I posted this comment several months ago. My first generation razr is gimping along. The exterior screen is completely busted and the lcd looks like a purple blob. I am holding off on buying a new phone until I can get a smart phone that replaces all the personal gadgets I have to carry. I need a phone that is a personal music player,a camera and a phone. Having a phone that is deficient in any of the above functions makes it less than smart. I am running out of time. My phone is in worst shape every day. Please just tell us there is a camera in the works, Otherwise I will be buying a non-linux smart phone.
  36. Globbi
  37. Madoon
  38. Thomasgruebler -- 3MP would be cool
  39. Blastur
  40. Tommiku -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone
  41. ShakataGaNai — it would be nice option to have
  42. Bugmenot -- The finishing touch to make it the perfect phone :)
  43. rydell -- Definitely the only missing feature! (And a near-critical one)
  44. PrtSoftware
  45. bob127 -- 3MP would be really nice, I'm also a developer for a phone-related company, I could recommend this phone if it has a camera.
  46. Z -- Our company would like to develop applications for this phone, the only thing that's stopping us is the lack of a camera
  47. dyous87 --A camera would make this the perfect phone for me and I would surely buy it.
  48. Massi -- 3MP would be cool
  49. jcdemay -- a missing feature, don't care if it's not a great one, just need one ;)
  50. pokazene_maslo -- with flashlight
  51. Jackcday -- I think it needs a camera, would be great if it could have a very high MPX camera with good software so you could use it as a proper camera.
  52. flexd -- This would be excellent for a idea of mine, camera + gps + wifi/gprs/3g/edge fun! :)
  53. Duker Would be awesome, especially if the camera (lens component) were removable for those pf us who can't have cameras at work (or court)
  54. PipBoy2000
  55. Merire I really want this phone, but I'm not gonna buy one if I can't get a cam.
  56. totoro
  57. bacardi55
  58. jplaville
  59. v0n0
  60. massoo -- A Camera integrated is really cool which will enable to have unified personal gizmo.
  61. conbart
  62. calavicci Like others, a camera is all I need to buy the phone.
  63. methril It's an usefull extra feature.
  64. yorick The lack of a camera is a very big disadvantage of this phone (compared to a HTC P3600 for example)
  65. Yota_VGA Absolutely needed!
  66. Treviño A phone doesn't need a camera, but it could be useful to grab fun moments!
  67. Daverix My mobile is the only thing a use to take pictures!
  68. snizfast Would also like a flash unless its good at night
  69. Oisin Mulvihill I second the 3MP camera and gps so you could geo-tag where the pictures are which is very handy when you want to get back to an interesting place you've come across.
  70. dborba 3MP would be ideal.
  71. gumpish -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. Every day I pray for the sanity of the development team and that they will realize that any phone that costs over $100USD and doesn't have a camera is worse than useless!
  72. Martix
  73. Michal Bořek
  74. Setr
  75. Byte Smyðe -- Waiting for a camera before I buy one...
  76. Yogiz -- I'll but GTA02 even without the camera but a good 2mpx+ camera would in my opinion add a lot. I'd like to use it for example to photograph A4 documents in high contrast and feed the pictures to tesseract OCR. It would also be good for use in tandem with gps to add pictures to openstreetmap. Of course sometimes you just need to take a quick picture.
  77. Axel
  78. Weber Perdigão Macedo*I am interested. I have experience with embedded computer vision programming, and I can help on it. Feel free to contact me.
  79. Pedro Silva Camera is a must, 3MP or more. Maybe two cameras, most 3G mobile phones have one high resolution camera for photos/video and another VGA camera for video call.
  80. LorekThe camera is the only thing that is missing in this phone.
  81. DeweyThis is a great idea! If designed properly, this could be a higher quality camera than most integrated phone cameras. If you leave it in the car, then you will have a camera that you can use in case of an accident. Being detachable, it would be perfect for when camera phones are not allowed when visiting companies on business.
  82. Theocrite Sounds good. It might be really easier to have pictures associated with contacts on the phone (without using a computer every time). Also it's a good thing to have a camera with you when you didn't expect to have something that needs a camera. I'm worried about the place it might take though. On the picture shown above it seems big. Even if it's removable, it might be something harder to carry.
  83. Ulcha
Personal tools

Alternate case for the Neo1973, with rear-mounted camera module.

Concept

A flexible phone is desired that meets most users needs. Camera module should be easily installed or removed (and left in the car) for people that are unable to take cameras into work.

cs mount camera

  • allows use of any standard cs mount (or other lenses with adapters) for superior optical focus & zoom
  • cs mount is used because it can be converted to use c mount lenses with a 5mm extension tube
  • surface of focal plane array is 12.52mm below top of surface (requiring less room than c mount or many other standard lenses)
  • module faces can be exchanged to allow operation in either camera or video-conferencing mode
  • lens can easily be unscrewed, converting the image sensor into a useless memory, and replaced with a c/cs mount cap. -- This could disable camera & allow people to bring the phone into work (or you could just remove the entire module)

A strong LED could be used as a close range flash. An ambient light sensor could automatically control this function. This could also be used as a torch.

Rendered images

cs mount camera (also works with c mount lenses)

Neo1973 cs-mount Camera Expansion Module Quicktime rendering
Neo1973-ExpCamCS.png

3D model

cs mount camera

Neo1973 Art of Illusion 3D Model - Not fully accurate, just an artistic concept.

Materials

  • 1 Camera with about 2MP or more for making pictures
  • 1 Camera for video conferences.

cs mount camera

  • Aluminum top front of case cover could allow 1" x 32tpi lens mount hole (3.8mm threaded down from surface) made directly into cover.

Processes

Stereolithography

Components

Camera module with protection
At least 2 Mpx.

Interest

Leave your nickname here if you are interested in having one made. This is not an order form, but is intended to gauge interest before effort is expended designing the case.

  1. changzer maybe it could look nicer than that, but anyway, a camera would be so sweet on this phone
  2. Bootlessjam
  3. Diatessaron
  4. Thomas Mathiesen
  5. Gizmhail
  6. Fisticuffs
  7. Daniel
  8. Deedend
  9. Aztlek
  10. Mikesd
  11. Filippo
  12. beady
  13. wvrn -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone
  14. yvanxxx
  15. amarov
  16. cedel
  17. gwylim
  18. Humberto Massa
  19. hhf423
  20. Fursund
  21. Bubbi
  22. Drizzt
  23. Pajamabama
  24. vozka
  25. dlejeune
  26. AnyWare
  27. kresp0
  28. sin
  29. DjAlxor
  30. Kf
  31. Kylegordon
  32. Oatty
  33. nericastillogioleo
  34. Fradeve11
  35. solid -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. [UPDATE]I posted this comment several months ago. My first generation razr is gimping along. The exterior screen is completely busted and the lcd looks like a purple blob. I am holding off on buying a new phone until I can get a smart phone that replaces all the personal gadgets I have to carry. I need a phone that is a personal music player,a camera and a phone. Having a phone that is deficient in any of the above functions makes it less than smart. I am running out of time. My phone is in worst shape every day. Please just tell us there is a camera in the works, Otherwise I will be buying a non-linux smart phone.
  36. Globbi
  37. Madoon
  38. Thomasgruebler -- 3MP would be cool
  39. Blastur
  40. Tommiku -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone
  41. ShakataGaNai — it would be nice option to have
  42. Bugmenot -- The finishing touch to make it the perfect phone :)
  43. rydell -- Definitely the only missing feature! (And a near-critical one)
  44. PrtSoftware
  45. bob127 -- 3MP would be really nice, I'm also a developer for a phone-related company, I could recommend this phone if it has a camera.
  46. Z -- Our company would like to develop applications for this phone, the only thing that's stopping us is the lack of a camera
  47. dyous87 --A camera would make this the perfect phone for me and I would surely buy it.
  48. Massi -- 3MP would be cool
  49. jcdemay -- a missing feature, don't care if it's not a great one, just need one ;)
  50. pokazene_maslo -- with flashlight
  51. Jackcday -- I think it needs a camera, would be great if it could have a very high MPX camera with good software so you could use it as a proper camera.
  52. flexd -- This would be excellent for a idea of mine, camera + gps + wifi/gprs/3g/edge fun! :)
  53. Duker Would be awesome, especially if the camera (lens component) were removable for those pf us who can't have cameras at work (or court)
  54. PipBoy2000
  55. Merire I really want this phone, but I'm not gonna buy one if I can't get a cam.
  56. totoro
  57. bacardi55
  58. jplaville
  59. v0n0
  60. massoo -- A Camera integrated is really cool which will enable to have unified personal gizmo.
  61. conbart
  62. calavicci Like others, a camera is all I need to buy the phone.
  63. methril It's an usefull extra feature.
  64. yorick The lack of a camera is a very big disadvantage of this phone (compared to a HTC P3600 for example)
  65. Yota_VGA Absolutely needed!
  66. Treviño A phone doesn't need a camera, but it could be useful to grab fun moments!
  67. Daverix My mobile is the only thing a use to take pictures!
  68. snizfast Would also like a flash unless its good at night
  69. Oisin Mulvihill I second the 3MP camera and gps so you could geo-tag where the pictures are which is very handy when you want to get back to an interesting place you've come across.
  70. dborba 3MP would be ideal.
  71. gumpish -- A camera is the only thing I am waiting on to buy this phone. Every day I pray for the sanity of the development team and that they will realize that any phone that costs over $100USD and doesn't have a camera is worse than useless!
  72. Martix
  73. Michal Bořek
  74. Setr
  75. Byte Smyðe -- Waiting for a camera before I buy one...
  76. Yogiz -- I'll but GTA02 even without the camera but a good 2mpx+ camera would in my opinion add a lot. I'd like to use it for example to photograph A4 documents in high contrast and feed the pictures to tesseract OCR. It would also be good for use in tandem with gps to add pictures to openstreetmap. Of course sometimes you just need to take a quick picture.
  77. Axel
  78. Weber Perdigão Macedo*I am interested. I have experience with embedded computer vision programming, and I can help on it. Feel free to contact me.
  79. Pedro Silva Camera is a must, 3MP or more. Maybe two cameras, most 3G mobile phones have one high resolution camera for photos/video and another VGA camera for video call.
  80. LorekThe camera is the only thing that is missing in this phone.
  81. DeweyThis is a great idea! If designed properly, this could be a higher quality camera than most integrated phone cameras. If you leave it in the car, then you will have a camera that you can use in case of an accident. Being detachable, it would be perfect for when camera phones are not allowed when visiting companies on business.
  82. Theocrite Sounds good. It might be really easier to have pictures associated with contacts on the phone (without using a computer every time). Also it's a good thing to have a camera with you when you didn't expect to have something that needs a camera. I'm worried about the place it might take though. On the picture shown above it seems big. Even if it's removable, it might be something harder to carry.