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Questions and Answers that don't seem to fit elsewhere

Contents

Introduction

Q: Qu'est-ce que OpenMoko et Neo1973 ?

R: OpenMoko est une plateforme logicielle, une tentative de créer la première solution logicielle totalement ouverte au monde pour téléphone portable. Le Neo1973 de FIC est le premier téléphone completement compatible avec OpenMoko.

Q: Je suis un ____ expert, est-ce que je peut rejoindre/aider OpenMoko ?

Nous aimerions avoir de vos nouvelles.

Si vous êtes interéssé pour rejoindre OpenMoko, visitez http://www.openmoko.com/contact-index.html et envoyez nous un mail. Ou vous pouvez aussi poster un message sur notre liste de participants si vous vooulez juste nous aider.

Q: Quand pourrais-je acheter le neo1973 ?

R: Maintenant -sur from https://direct.openmoko.com/. Mais lisez d'abord "What will it do?".

Q: À quel prix ?

R: Neo1973 GTA01B_v04: $300 pour le Neo Base, $450 pour le Neo Advanced. Disponible maintenant. Voir Neo1973 pour ce qu'il fait.

R: Neo1973 GTA02: $450 pour le Neo Base, $600 pour le Neo Advanced. Prévu pour être disponible en 2007. Voir Neo1973 pour la liste du matériel.

Q: Qu'est-ce qu'il fera?

R: Pour une réponse longue voir Developer preview

R: Le téléphone Phase 1 est conçu pour les développeurs. Il n'est pas utilisable par des utilisateurs normaux, il n'a que des fonction basiques comme celles dun céléphone à écran tactile. Deux trois trucs marchent, mais le développement d'application continuera jusqu'à la production de masse.

Les personnes intéréssées doivent:

  • savoir qu'un nouveau modèle va sortir avec un processeur plus puissant, un système GSM … Dans quelques mois (GTA02 )
  • aimer hacker des appareils.
  • être capable de se débrouiller seules sans plus de documentation que ça…
  • partager le rêve d'un appareil utilisant des logiciels libres.
  • ne pas attendre un appareil du niveau d'un utilisateur.
  • proposer des idées pour explorer au maximum les possibilités ofertes par le téléphone.
  • avoir $300.

Elles peuvent aussi:

  • chercher et rapporter les bugs.
  • publier des patches.
  • aimer coopérer avec une communauté pour améliorer les logiciels.

Q: Ai-je besoin du Neo Advanced?

Avec le Neo de base vous pouvez faire:

  • du developpement de noyau.
  • du developpement d'applications.
  • mettre à jour le u-boot ( équivalent au BIOS d'un PC )en utilisant une image pré-testée.
  • remplacer un noyau defectueux et/ou rootfs utilisant Dfu-util.

Avec le Neo Advanced vous pouvez en plus faire:

  • du developpement de u-boot.
  • utiliser la console du noyau.
  • démonter votre téléphone si vous flashez une mauvaise image de u-boot.

Q: J'ai une question relative à l'envoi du téléphone

Voir Shipment 1 FAQ.

Logiciel

Q: Le logiciel peut-il faire/se connecter à ...

R: Pour le momoent, la réponse est non dans tout les cas. Le téléphone n'est pour le moment qu'une petite boite Linux avec un écran tactile, un système qui fonctionne pour les appels et pas mal de prototypes d'applications dont la plupart ne fonctionneront pas de manière correcte pour les utilisateurs. Si vous voulez ajouter des fonctionnalités ou demander des applications, jetez un coup d'oeil dans la liste des applications existantes et ajoutez celle que vous souhaitez, ou alors faites une demande d'ajout de fonctionnalités dans la page des applications.

Quels logiciels sera dans le téléphone?

Pour le moment, presque aucune application destinée aux utilisateurs n'est présente et utilisable de façon stable. Il est possible de téléphoner et de recevoir des appels.

Quels logiciels peuvent être installés sur le téléphone?

Q: Est-ce qu'une liste et une description des logiciels OpenMoko est disponible?

R: Voir OpenMoko et OpenMokoFramework

Q: Est-ce que c'est totalement opensource/composé de logiciels libres?

R: L'espace utilisateur Gpsd utilisera un plugin binaire pour Hammerhead AGPS et le modem GSM est un sous-système séparé connecté au S3C2410 UART1. Le reste n'est que logiciel libre. Voir MokoMakefile et Development resources.

Q: Comment puis-je installer et gérer des logiciels sur OpnMoko?

R: ipkg: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Ipkg

Q: Comment puis-je compiler des programmes pour le Neo1973?

R: Voir Toolchain.

Q: Un émulateur est-il disponible pour OpenMoko?

Pour le travail de developpement et le test, vous n'avez pas besoin d'émulateur car vous pouvez faire tourner OpenMoko sur votre PC. Les émulateurs ne sont pas parfaits à 100%. Ceci étant dis, il y a plusieurs émulateurs qui sont décrits ci-après.

QEMU

QEMU can now emulate the Neo1973 device. The MokoMakefile has support for automatically building, flashing, and running the Neo1973 emulator.

“make qemu” will build qemu-neo1973, download the latest official openmoko images, flash the images into the virtual NAND flash, and run the emulator.

Xoo

Another is Xoo. Koen says: "Xoo should be enough for most apps people will develop, since most don't need access to the gsm uart directly. If you're hardcore you could use qemu + xoo, but that still doesn't emulate all the hardware quirks (e.g. unaligned access)".

Update: Stefan Schmidt has resized the Neo1973 Mock-up and written a small description for xoo. In his words:

It's not really useable at all, as you need a really high screen resolution to fit the whole picture on your screen. And of course the dpi are wrong. Even no buttons because I can't remember where they are at the case.

http://www.datenfreihafen.org/~stefan/OpenMoko/neo1973-xoo-device.tar.bz2

Start with 'xoo --device /path/to/neo1973.xml'

Some more details here.

Xephyr

Ou utilisez Xephyr directement avec des programmes compilés (par exemple matchbox svn + openmoko):

Xephyr -screen 480x640 -nolisten tcp -ac :1 &
export DISPLAY=:1
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib
matchbox-window-manager -display $DISPLAY -use_titlebar no \
 -use_super_modal yes -use_lowlight yes -use_dialog_mode static \
 -use_cursor yes &
matchbox-panel --geometry=480x44 --end-applets=clock &
openmoko-footer &
openmoko-taskmanager &

Q: Ou puis-je trouver des tutoriaux pour un petit 'Hello World' sur OpenMoko?

R: Vous pouvez commencer avec ça http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/

Q: Can PalmOS apps applications be ported to run on OpenMoko?

A: Making legacy apps written for the "Garnet" OS (née "Palm OS") run on Linux is decidedly non-trivial.

PalmOS apps are in general very hard to simply 'port'. Particularly well-designed programs may make it possible.

The ACCESS Linux Platform will include Garnet on Host (GHost), a PalmOS emulator that will support M6800 (68k) and ARM PalmOS applications. This part (GarnetVM and the .prc loader) will however be closed-source and likely under a restrictive license (fact confirmed by ACCESS Co. employees), making it rather unusable. In addition GarnetVM depends on Hiker and other packages.

It is possible that POSE, an emulator that simulates a Palm device on a Linux host could be used to allow 68k based applications to run. This emulator has been around a long time; one expects that it will also run on OpenMoko, but this has to be considered a short-term bandaid rather than a long-term solution.

The soon-to-be-released Palm Foleo, which runs a Linux port developed by Palm Inc. independently of ALP, contains a PalmOS compatibility environment that runs PalmOS apps, supposedly all of them and supposedly seamlessly. Little is known about how it works but if it's not too kludgy it should run unmodified on any ARM linux. It is not known what license it will be distributed under.

Hopefully emulation will be necessary only for M68000 code (pre-PalmOS 5) while native ARM programs can run natively under Linux, provided a proper set of PalmOS libraries and a .prc executable loader.

Q: Does it have Java?

A: It will have eventually, if you help us to get it working. Some good places to keep track of would be projects.openmoko.org and PhoneME.

Q: What are the relevant X11 details?

A: See xdpyinfo output.

Q: Does OpenMoko run on any other hardware?

You can run it on your PC. There is work going on with OpenEZX and HTC. It's running on iPaq hx4700, on a Palm TX and on PalmOne's Treo 650.

Q: What are the requirements to the hardware to run OpenMoko? (Would it run on the IXI ogo?)

Q: Why do you not build on top of the Maemo platform instead?

While I can't speak for the OpenMoko team, it's worth noting that maemo is fixed resolution only. That will, I've heard, change in the future, but it hasn't yet. Maemo's current layout is also optimized for wide screens, not tall narrow ones. Most third party maemo applications that are out there will need to be modified to work at different sizes. Finally, a number of the software components of the Nokia 770 and N800 are not open source. --gopi

To add up on that, according to Nokia, Maemo is designed to bring the "Desktop" experience to an Internet Tablet. A lot of Desktop paradigms just won't work on a phone. However, we really share a lot of the base-technology (gtk, dbus, eds, gconf, to name a few) with Maemo, so we are definitely not a reinvent-the-wheel team.

Q: Will it be possible to use popular VoIP applications such as Skype on the OpenMoko platform?

A: Perhaps. Hardware issues mean that it won't work well on the Neo1973. (the typical latency of GPRS is far too high). Also, Skype is a closed source application, which does not provide binaries that would be suitable to run on OpenMoko. Skype's vendor could of course choose to provide binaries for OpenMoko phones. However, many telephone providers' terms of service agreements preclude running VoIP over their baseline GSM service.

Q: Same question for Instant Messaging applications such as MSN Messenger?

A: Very probably. MSN is closed source and will only run where Microsoft wants you to run it. But there are many Open Source IM clients, many of which have a plugin architecture and so support the use of more than one IM protocol, even simultaneously. One example is Pidgin, formerly called GAIM. GPRS does induce a certain amount of latency but that should not be a problem for simple, text-oriented chat between parties. And the GTA02's WiFi will make it even better.

Neo1973 niveau matériel

Q: Y a-t-il une description du matériel du neo1973 ?

R: Voir Neo1973 Hardware et Disassembling Neo1973

Q: Quelles sont les dimensions?

R: 120.7 x 62 x 18.5 mm, il tiendra dans une boite de conserve. (4.75 * 2.4 * 0.72 ")

Q: Quel poid fera-t-il?

R: 185g, (6.5 ounces).

Q: A-t-il un appareil photo?

R: Non, voir Neo1973 pour les détails de ce qu'il incluera (et la liste de souhait matériel pour ce que les gens veulent dans les versions futures.) Voir aussi FAQ#USB.

Q: What is the rationale behind the exclusion of WiFi?

A: No suitable low power open source WiFi device was available when the Neo1973 was designed. A closed source WiFi device would have been restrictive for developers and users alike. See also FAQ#USB.

See also: Sean Moss-Pultz's comment on this

Neo1973 GTA02 will include WiFi.

Q: A-t-il le Bluetooth?

R: Oui!

Q: Le recevra-t-on avec un stylet?

R: Oui, mais il n'y aucun implacement pour le ranger dans le téléphone.

Q: Where are the buttons?

The power button is a small circular button, just next to the USB connector. Neo1973 Power Button The Auxilliary button is a rectangular button on the top left of the edge of the phone. (on black phones it looks just like an IRDA port). Neo1973 AUX Button

Q: How do I input text?

A: Use provided keyboard app.

A: Use Bluetooth keyboard.

A: For more methods and ideas see Wishlist:Text_Input.

Q: Can I record calls and/or play audio files in calls?

A: Yes, audio path from GSM to/from mic and speakers is completely controllable by user. For example recording calls (both sides) and implementing an Answering Machine is possible. Also using text->speech should be possible or modifying outgoing voice. Currently there is no software bundled in phone to do this.

Q: Quel est la durée de vie de la batterie?

R: On ne sait pas pour l'instant, mais vous pouvez regarder ces approximations pour une petite idée. Plus d'informations ici.

USB

Q: What can I do with the USB port on the Neo1973?

A: Charge the phone, communicate with it over USB-serial, or USB-networking.

A: Plug external devices, such as wifi, cameras, or mass-storage devices in.

Q: What can't I do with the USB?

The USB on the neo has no power output. This means that you cannot use USB bus powered devices without some sort of powered hub or cable. This is due to the fact that adding a 5V power supply into the device would have added complexity, volume and cost.

Many powered USB devices don't work without at least a nominal amount of 5v power from the USB bus. A few powered USB hubs will work without 5v power from the host, but most powered ones need to have simple electrical modifications done to work.

Q: Why is only USB 1.1 provided?

A: The processor has USB 1.1 built in. One with USB2 built in would have been more expensive.

Q: Can the Neo charge and use devices on a USB hub at the same time?

A:

  • When the Neo is connected to a device port on a USB hub, it will start charging. If the hub is a powered hub, then it will charge fast (3h), otherwise around 12h.
  • If you plug the Neo into the host port of a USB hub you can use devices on that hub but the Neo will not charge. (Some/many USB hubs will not accept an unpowered host as valid, hence the need for the below cable.)
  • This is because the host socket on USB hubs is not powered.

FIC product development is looking into providing something that conveniently solves this problem.

The USB port on the Neo is not a properly compliant USB host port, all USB host ports must provide 5V - though powered devices or hubs may not draw any current from this, they may refuse to work. (The Belkin Tetrahub is an example of a hub that will not work.)

One solution is a three headed cable.

One end plugs into the Neo. One end plugs into a device port of a powered hub, or the Neo charger. One end plugs into the host port of a hub.

The Charger/USB device plug only has +5V and 0V connected in the simple cable, which are connected to the other ends.

For a more complex cable, when the host socket is not plugged in, the cable acts as a simple USB cable.

Q: What are the details of the USB port on the Neo1973? How does it compare to USB On-The-Go?

A: The Neo1973 will have mini-USB-B, and will be able to function as either a host or a device. It will NOT be USB On-The-Go. OTG is a complex specification, and it comprises way more than just a AB socket, but also electrical and software components which cannot be provide by the S3C2410.

You will need a special Mini-B to regular-B cable (note that this won't actually comply with the USB standard: a compliant cable has to have an A or Mini-A plug on one end, and B or Mini-B on the other).

Q: Are there any LEDs on the Neo 1973?

A: The Neo1973 v1 will have no LEDs besides the screen backlight.

Q: Will a JTAG port be made available?

A: The "Hacker's Lunchbox" in Advanced version will make this kind of stuff easy.

There are exposed I2C, SPI and debug board connectors inside case in all versions and Debug Board v2 (JTAG and serial console) in Advanced version. Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2 explains how to connect it to the phone.

Q: What can we expect in future versions?

A: A faster CPU, faster GSM (EDGE?) perhaps even powered USB port, USB2, wifi, and camera. No details have been released yet. More details of hardware upgrades should be available sometime in May. There will also be 5 more OpenMoko devices - some not phones in the traditional sense - announced by FIC in September.

Networking/Connectivity

Q: What kind of connectivity?

A: Quad-band GSM, GPRS Class12/CS4 2.5G (Not EDGE), Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, USB in all versions. WiFi: Atheros AR6K in GTA02. (No 3G in year 2007 models)

Q: Can I bridge to an Ethernet (wired or unwired) network via a suitable Bluetooth enabled router?

A: Yes - see this howto for how to configure a linux computer to act as such a router and Bluetooth Support.

Q: What providers provide the GSM required for Neo1973?

A: See Neo1973 compatible cellphone providers

Q: Will OpenMoko "Just Work" with Mac OS X?

A: There has been some discussion of this on the mailing list. There is motivation, and there are interested developers. Not being a Mac OS X user, I don't know enough to summarize the discussion to answer this question. Can someone please fill in?

A: For IP over USB cable connectivity, it is planned to improve/adapt the AJZaurusUSB driver, allowing ssh into the OpenMoko.

A: It is expected that (Bluetooth/UB) SyncML based interoperation for contacts and events can easily be achieved by a patch to the Apple iSync configuration tables.

A: There is an open source implementation of Cocoa (GNUstep) that aims to run MacOS X compatible applications (sort of PPC/x86/ARM universal binaries) on OpenMoko devices: mySTEP.

Divers

Q: On the lists on lists.openmoko.org, should replies be added above or below the original text?

A: Please reply UNDER post.

Q: How can I find out if a question or topic has already been discussed on the mailing lists?

A: By searching the mailing list archives. For example, using Google searches:

site:openmoko.org text

For example, to search for accelerometer:

site:openmoko.org accelerometer

If you only want to read the "official" mails from FIC people or from OpenMoko people:

site:openmoko.org text "at fic.com.tw"
site:openmoko.org text "at openmoko.org"

For example to search for "release date" from FIC people:

site:openmoko.org "release date" "at fic.com.tw"

Alternatively you can use the custom OpenMoko search engine which has been created using Google Co-op.


Q:Can I has some money for a Neo1973

A:No.

Personal tools

Questions and Answers that don't seem to fit elsewhere

Introduction

Q: Qu'est-ce que OpenMoko et Neo1973 ?

R: OpenMoko est une plateforme logicielle, une tentative de créer la première solution logicielle totalement ouverte au monde pour téléphone portable. Le Neo1973 de FIC est le premier téléphone completement compatible avec OpenMoko.

Q: Je suis un ____ expert, est-ce que je peut rejoindre/aider OpenMoko ?

Nous aimerions avoir de vos nouvelles.

Si vous êtes interéssé pour rejoindre OpenMoko, visitez http://www.openmoko.com/contact-index.html et envoyez nous un mail. Ou vous pouvez aussi poster un message sur notre liste de participants si vous vooulez juste nous aider.

Q: Quand pourrais-je acheter le neo1973 ?

R: Maintenant -sur from https://direct.openmoko.com/. Mais lisez d'abord "What will it do?".

Q: À quel prix ?

R: Neo1973 GTA01B_v04: $300 pour le Neo Base, $450 pour le Neo Advanced. Disponible maintenant. Voir Neo1973 pour ce qu'il fait.

R: Neo1973 GTA02: $450 pour le Neo Base, $600 pour le Neo Advanced. Prévu pour être disponible en 2007. Voir Neo1973 pour la liste du matériel.

Q: Qu'est-ce qu'il fera?

R: Pour une réponse longue voir Developer preview

R: Le téléphone Phase 1 est conçu pour les développeurs. Il n'est pas utilisable par des utilisateurs normaux, il n'a que des fonction basiques comme celles dun céléphone à écran tactile. Deux trois trucs marchent, mais le développement d'application continuera jusqu'à la production de masse.

Les personnes intéréssées doivent:

  • savoir qu'un nouveau modèle va sortir avec un processeur plus puissant, un système GSM … Dans quelques mois (GTA02 )
  • aimer hacker des appareils.
  • être capable de se débrouiller seules sans plus de documentation que ça…
  • partager le rêve d'un appareil utilisant des logiciels libres.
  • ne pas attendre un appareil du niveau d'un utilisateur.
  • proposer des idées pour explorer au maximum les possibilités ofertes par le téléphone.
  • avoir $300.

Elles peuvent aussi:

  • chercher et rapporter les bugs.
  • publier des patches.
  • aimer coopérer avec une communauté pour améliorer les logiciels.

Q: Ai-je besoin du Neo Advanced?

Avec le Neo de base vous pouvez faire:

  • du developpement de noyau.
  • du developpement d'applications.
  • mettre à jour le u-boot ( équivalent au BIOS d'un PC )en utilisant une image pré-testée.
  • remplacer un noyau defectueux et/ou rootfs utilisant Dfu-util.

Avec le Neo Advanced vous pouvez en plus faire:

  • du developpement de u-boot.
  • utiliser la console du noyau.
  • démonter votre téléphone si vous flashez une mauvaise image de u-boot.

Q: J'ai une question relative à l'envoi du téléphone

Voir Shipment 1 FAQ.

Logiciel

Q: Le logiciel peut-il faire/se connecter à ...

R: Pour le momoent, la réponse est non dans tout les cas. Le téléphone n'est pour le moment qu'une petite boite Linux avec un écran tactile, un système qui fonctionne pour les appels et pas mal de prototypes d'applications dont la plupart ne fonctionneront pas de manière correcte pour les utilisateurs. Si vous voulez ajouter des fonctionnalités ou demander des applications, jetez un coup d'oeil dans la liste des applications existantes et ajoutez celle que vous souhaitez, ou alors faites une demande d'ajout de fonctionnalités dans la page des applications.

Quels logiciels sera dans le téléphone?

Pour le moment, presque aucune application destinée aux utilisateurs n'est présente et utilisable de façon stable. Il est possible de téléphoner et de recevoir des appels.

Quels logiciels peuvent être installés sur le téléphone?

Q: Est-ce qu'une liste et une description des logiciels OpenMoko est disponible?

R: Voir OpenMoko et OpenMokoFramework

Q: Est-ce que c'est totalement opensource/composé de logiciels libres?

R: L'espace utilisateur Gpsd utilisera un plugin binaire pour Hammerhead AGPS et le modem GSM est un sous-système séparé connecté au S3C2410 UART1. Le reste n'est que logiciel libre. Voir MokoMakefile et Development resources.

Q: Comment puis-je installer et gérer des logiciels sur OpnMoko?

R: ipkg: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Ipkg

Q: Comment puis-je compiler des programmes pour le Neo1973?

R: Voir Toolchain.

Q: Un émulateur est-il disponible pour OpenMoko?

Pour le travail de developpement et le test, vous n'avez pas besoin d'émulateur car vous pouvez faire tourner OpenMoko sur votre PC. Les émulateurs ne sont pas parfaits à 100%. Ceci étant dis, il y a plusieurs émulateurs qui sont décrits ci-après.

QEMU

QEMU can now emulate the Neo1973 device. The MokoMakefile has support for automatically building, flashing, and running the Neo1973 emulator.

“make qemu” will build qemu-neo1973, download the latest official openmoko images, flash the images into the virtual NAND flash, and run the emulator.

Xoo

Another is Xoo. Koen says: "Xoo should be enough for most apps people will develop, since most don't need access to the gsm uart directly. If you're hardcore you could use qemu + xoo, but that still doesn't emulate all the hardware quirks (e.g. unaligned access)".

Update: Stefan Schmidt has resized the Neo1973 Mock-up and written a small description for xoo. In his words:

It's not really useable at all, as you need a really high screen resolution to fit the whole picture on your screen. And of course the dpi are wrong. Even no buttons because I can't remember where they are at the case.

http://www.datenfreihafen.org/~stefan/OpenMoko/neo1973-xoo-device.tar.bz2

Start with 'xoo --device /path/to/neo1973.xml'

Some more details here.

Xephyr

Ou utilisez Xephyr directement avec des programmes compilés (par exemple matchbox svn + openmoko):

Xephyr -screen 480x640 -nolisten tcp -ac :1 &
export DISPLAY=:1
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib
matchbox-window-manager -display $DISPLAY -use_titlebar no \
 -use_super_modal yes -use_lowlight yes -use_dialog_mode static \
 -use_cursor yes &
matchbox-panel --geometry=480x44 --end-applets=clock &
openmoko-footer &
openmoko-taskmanager &

Q: Ou puis-je trouver des tutoriaux pour un petit 'Hello World' sur OpenMoko?

R: Vous pouvez commencer avec ça http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/

Q: Can PalmOS apps applications be ported to run on OpenMoko?

A: Making legacy apps written for the "Garnet" OS (née "Palm OS") run on Linux is decidedly non-trivial.

PalmOS apps are in general very hard to simply 'port'. Particularly well-designed programs may make it possible.

The ACCESS Linux Platform will include Garnet on Host (GHost), a PalmOS emulator that will support M6800 (68k) and ARM PalmOS applications. This part (GarnetVM and the .prc loader) will however be closed-source and likely under a restrictive license (fact confirmed by ACCESS Co. employees), making it rather unusable. In addition GarnetVM depends on Hiker and other packages.

It is possible that POSE, an emulator that simulates a Palm device on a Linux host could be used to allow 68k based applications to run. This emulator has been around a long time; one expects that it will also run on OpenMoko, but this has to be considered a short-term bandaid rather than a long-term solution.

The soon-to-be-released Palm Foleo, which runs a Linux port developed by Palm Inc. independently of ALP, contains a PalmOS compatibility environment that runs PalmOS apps, supposedly all of them and supposedly seamlessly. Little is known about how it works but if it's not too kludgy it should run unmodified on any ARM linux. It is not known what license it will be distributed under.

Hopefully emulation will be necessary only for M68000 code (pre-PalmOS 5) while native ARM programs can run natively under Linux, provided a proper set of PalmOS libraries and a .prc executable loader.

Q: Does it have Java?

A: It will have eventually, if you help us to get it working. Some good places to keep track of would be projects.openmoko.org and PhoneME.

Q: What are the relevant X11 details?

A: See xdpyinfo output.

Q: Does OpenMoko run on any other hardware?

You can run it on your PC. There is work going on with OpenEZX and HTC. It's running on iPaq hx4700, on a Palm TX and on PalmOne's Treo 650.

Q: What are the requirements to the hardware to run OpenMoko? (Would it run on the IXI ogo?)

Q: Why do you not build on top of the Maemo platform instead?

While I can't speak for the OpenMoko team, it's worth noting that maemo is fixed resolution only. That will, I've heard, change in the future, but it hasn't yet. Maemo's current layout is also optimized for wide screens, not tall narrow ones. Most third party maemo applications that are out there will need to be modified to work at different sizes. Finally, a number of the software components of the Nokia 770 and N800 are not open source. --gopi

To add up on that, according to Nokia, Maemo is designed to bring the "Desktop" experience to an Internet Tablet. A lot of Desktop paradigms just won't work on a phone. However, we really share a lot of the base-technology (gtk, dbus, eds, gconf, to name a few) with Maemo, so we are definitely not a reinvent-the-wheel team.

Q: Will it be possible to use popular VoIP applications such as Skype on the OpenMoko platform?

A: Perhaps. Hardware issues mean that it won't work well on the Neo1973. (the typical latency of GPRS is far too high). Also, Skype is a closed source application, which does not provide binaries that would be suitable to run on OpenMoko. Skype's vendor could of course choose to provide binaries for OpenMoko phones. However, many telephone providers' terms of service agreements preclude running VoIP over their baseline GSM service.

Q: Same question for Instant Messaging applications such as MSN Messenger?

A: Very probably. MSN is closed source and will only run where Microsoft wants you to run it. But there are many Open Source IM clients, many of which have a plugin architecture and so support the use of more than one IM protocol, even simultaneously. One example is Pidgin, formerly called GAIM. GPRS does induce a certain amount of latency but that should not be a problem for simple, text-oriented chat between parties. And the GTA02's WiFi will make it even better.

Neo1973 niveau matériel

Q: Y a-t-il une description du matériel du neo1973 ?

R: Voir Neo1973 Hardware et Disassembling Neo1973

Q: Quelles sont les dimensions?

R: 120.7 x 62 x 18.5 mm, il tiendra dans une boite de conserve. (4.75 * 2.4 * 0.72 ")

Q: Quel poid fera-t-il?

R: 185g, (6.5 ounces).

Q: A-t-il un appareil photo?

R: Non, voir Neo1973 pour les détails de ce qu'il incluera (et la liste de souhait matériel pour ce que les gens veulent dans les versions futures.) Voir aussi FAQ#USB.

Q: What is the rationale behind the exclusion of WiFi?

A: No suitable low power open source WiFi device was available when the Neo1973 was designed. A closed source WiFi device would have been restrictive for developers and users alike. See also FAQ#USB.

See also: Sean Moss-Pultz's comment on this

Neo1973 GTA02 will include WiFi.

Q: A-t-il le Bluetooth?

R: Oui!

Q: Le recevra-t-on avec un stylet?

R: Oui, mais il n'y aucun implacement pour le ranger dans le téléphone.

Q: Where are the buttons?

The power button is a small circular button, just next to the USB connector. Neo1973 Power Button The Auxilliary button is a rectangular button on the top left of the edge of the phone. (on black phones it looks just like an IRDA port). Neo1973 AUX Button

Q: How do I input text?

A: Use provided keyboard app.

A: Use Bluetooth keyboard.

A: For more methods and ideas see Wishlist:Text_Input.

Q: Can I record calls and/or play audio files in calls?

A: Yes, audio path from GSM to/from mic and speakers is completely controllable by user. For example recording calls (both sides) and implementing an Answering Machine is possible. Also using text->speech should be possible or modifying outgoing voice. Currently there is no software bundled in phone to do this.

Q: Quel est la durée de vie de la batterie?

R: On ne sait pas pour l'instant, mais vous pouvez regarder ces approximations pour une petite idée. Plus d'informations ici.

USB

Q: What can I do with the USB port on the Neo1973?

A: Charge the phone, communicate with it over USB-serial, or USB-networking.

A: Plug external devices, such as wifi, cameras, or mass-storage devices in.

Q: What can't I do with the USB?

The USB on the neo has no power output. This means that you cannot use USB bus powered devices without some sort of powered hub or cable. This is due to the fact that adding a 5V power supply into the device would have added complexity, volume and cost.

Many powered USB devices don't work without at least a nominal amount of 5v power from the USB bus. A few powered USB hubs will work without 5v power from the host, but most powered ones need to have simple electrical modifications done to work.

Q: Why is only USB 1.1 provided?

A: The processor has USB 1.1 built in. One with USB2 built in would have been more expensive.

Q: Can the Neo charge and use devices on a USB hub at the same time?

A:

  • When the Neo is connected to a device port on a USB hub, it will start charging. If the hub is a powered hub, then it will charge fast (3h), otherwise around 12h.
  • If you plug the Neo into the host port of a USB hub you can use devices on that hub but the Neo will not charge. (Some/many USB hubs will not accept an unpowered host as valid, hence the need for the below cable.)
  • This is because the host socket on USB hubs is not powered.

FIC product development is looking into providing something that conveniently solves this problem.

The USB port on the Neo is not a properly compliant USB host port, all USB host ports must provide 5V - though powered devices or hubs may not draw any current from this, they may refuse to work. (The Belkin Tetrahub is an example of a hub that will not work.)

One solution is a three headed cable.

One end plugs into the Neo. One end plugs into a device port of a powered hub, or the Neo charger. One end plugs into the host port of a hub.

The Charger/USB device plug only has +5V and 0V connected in the simple cable, which are connected to the other ends.

For a more complex cable, when the host socket is not plugged in, the cable acts as a simple USB cable.

Q: What are the details of the USB port on the Neo1973? How does it compare to USB On-The-Go?

A: The Neo1973 will have mini-USB-B, and will be able to function as either a host or a device. It will NOT be USB On-The-Go. OTG is a complex specification, and it comprises way more than just a AB socket, but also electrical and software components which cannot be provide by the S3C2410.

You will need a special Mini-B to regular-B cable (note that this won't actually comply with the USB standard: a compliant cable has to have an A or Mini-A plug on one end, and B or Mini-B on the other).

Q: Are there any LEDs on the Neo 1973?

A: The Neo1973 v1 will have no LEDs besides the screen backlight.

Q: Will a JTAG port be made available?

A: The "Hacker's Lunchbox" in Advanced version will make this kind of stuff easy.

There are exposed I2C, SPI and debug board connectors inside case in all versions and Debug Board v2 (JTAG and serial console) in Advanced version. Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2 explains how to connect it to the phone.

Q: What can we expect in future versions?

A: A faster CPU, faster GSM (EDGE?) perhaps even powered USB port, USB2, wifi, and camera. No details have been released yet. More details of hardware upgrades should be available sometime in May. There will also be 5 more OpenMoko devices - some not phones in the traditional sense - announced by FIC in September.

Networking/Connectivity

Q: What kind of connectivity?

A: Quad-band GSM, GPRS Class12/CS4 2.5G (Not EDGE), Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, USB in all versions. WiFi: Atheros AR6K in GTA02. (No 3G in year 2007 models)

Q: Can I bridge to an Ethernet (wired or unwired) network via a suitable Bluetooth enabled router?

A: Yes - see this howto for how to configure a linux computer to act as such a router and Bluetooth Support.

Q: What providers provide the GSM required for Neo1973?

A: See Neo1973 compatible cellphone providers

Q: Will OpenMoko "Just Work" with Mac OS X?

A: There has been some discussion of this on the mailing list. There is motivation, and there are interested developers. Not being a Mac OS X user, I don't know enough to summarize the discussion to answer this question. Can someone please fill in?

A: For IP over USB cable connectivity, it is planned to improve/adapt the AJZaurusUSB driver, allowing ssh into the OpenMoko.

A: It is expected that (Bluetooth/UB) SyncML based interoperation for contacts and events can easily be achieved by a patch to the Apple iSync configuration tables.

A: There is an open source implementation of Cocoa (GNUstep) that aims to run MacOS X compatible applications (sort of PPC/x86/ARM universal binaries) on OpenMoko devices: mySTEP.

Divers

Q: On the lists on lists.openmoko.org, should replies be added above or below the original text?

A: Please reply UNDER post.

Q: How can I find out if a question or topic has already been discussed on the mailing lists?

A: By searching the mailing list archives. For example, using Google searches:

site:openmoko.org text

For example, to search for accelerometer:

site:openmoko.org accelerometer

If you only want to read the "official" mails from FIC people or from OpenMoko people:

site:openmoko.org text "at fic.com.tw"
site:openmoko.org text "at openmoko.org"

For example to search for "release date" from FIC people:

site:openmoko.org "release date" "at fic.com.tw"

Alternatively you can use the custom OpenMoko search engine which has been created using Google Co-op.


Q:Can I has some money for a Neo1973

A:No.