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= Why not use Discussion Forums? =
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= Discussion Forums =
  
This question did come up regularily  [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-June/019256.html] on the community discussion mailing list [[http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/]].
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The [http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community community mailing list] is the focus of discussion around Openmoko, and there are a number of other [http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/ lists] related to specific development-related topics. See the [[Development_resources|development resources]] for more information.
  
Apparently, there are two groups of people. One does not like forums and the other one would see some benefits. Therefore each one tries to convince the other to switch.
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== Why aren't there Web forums? ==
  
My conclusion of all those discussions is:
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This question did come up regularly [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-June/019256.html (example)] on the community mailing list. Apparently, there are two groups of people: one group does not like Web forums; the other group prefers Web forums. This leads to advocacy for each style of communication without any real conclusion.
  
* there is no "better" system for everyone.
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The consensus after all these discussions is as follows:
* there is no benefit in convincing anyone to switch.
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* we need both in parallel.
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* There is no single system which suits everyone.
* let's let users decide for themselves and let us help them to do so.
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* Mailing lists are the traditional approach for many open source projects (and are already in use).
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* There is no benefit in convincing anyone to switch, nor is it likely to happen.
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* We can provide access to the lists in addition to the traditional interfaces (e-mail, Web archives).
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* The users can decide themselves!
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== Web Interfaces to Mailing Lists ==
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# http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html test setup - needs JavaScript to work - please comment if you like it on the discussion page
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# http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.announce
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# http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community
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== Openmoko-related [http://www.jabber.org Jabber] Multi-User Chats (MUC) ==
  
== List of Openmoko related [http://www.jabber.org Jabber] Multi-User Chats (MUC) ==
 
 
#  openmoko@conference.jabber.org (English)
 
#  openmoko@conference.jabber.org (English)
 
#  openmoko@chat.linjab.net [http://chat.linjab.net/logs/openmoko@chat.linjab.net/ logs] (Czech and Slovak)
 
#  openmoko@chat.linjab.net [http://chat.linjab.net/logs/openmoko@chat.linjab.net/ logs] (Czech and Slovak)
  
== List of Openmoko related Forums ==
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== Openmoko-related Web Forums ==
  
 
# http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showforum=161
 
# http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showforum=161
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# http://www.openmokofans.com/forums/ (Simplified Chinese)
 
# http://www.openmokofans.com/forums/ (Simplified Chinese)
  
Please also note that fora become more valuable by heavy useage.
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Please also note that fora become more valuable by heavy usage.
  
== List of Web based access to Mailing Lists ==
 
# http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html test setup. needs javascript to work. please comment if you like it on the discussion page
 
# http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.announce
 
# http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community
 
 
[[category:community]]
 
[[category:community]]

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Contents

Discussion Forums

The community mailing list is the focus of discussion around Openmoko, and there are a number of other lists related to specific development-related topics. See the development resources for more information.

Why aren't there Web forums?

This question did come up regularly (example) on the community mailing list. Apparently, there are two groups of people: one group does not like Web forums; the other group prefers Web forums. This leads to advocacy for each style of communication without any real conclusion.

The consensus after all these discussions is as follows:

  • There is no single system which suits everyone.
  • Mailing lists are the traditional approach for many open source projects (and are already in use).
  • There is no benefit in convincing anyone to switch, nor is it likely to happen.
  • We can provide access to the lists in addition to the traditional interfaces (e-mail, Web archives).
  • The users can decide themselves!

Web Interfaces to Mailing Lists

  1. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html test setup - needs JavaScript to work - please comment if you like it on the discussion page
  2. http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.announce
  3. http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community

Openmoko-related Jabber Multi-User Chats (MUC)

  1. openmoko@conference.jabber.org (English)
  2. openmoko@chat.linjab.net logs (Czech and Slovak)

Openmoko-related Web Forums

  1. http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showforum=161
  2. http://forums.makeopensource.com
  3. http://www.neo1973-germany.de (German)
  4. http://freeyourphone.de (German)
  5. http://openmokoforums.eu and .com(English)
  6. http://forum.telefoninux.org/ (Italian)
  7. http://www.openmokofans.com/forums/ (Simplified Chinese)

Please also note that fora become more valuable by heavy usage.

Personal tools

Why not use Discussion Forums?

This question did come up regularily [1] on the community discussion mailing list [[2]].

Apparently, there are two groups of people. One does not like forums and the other one would see some benefits. Therefore each one tries to convince the other to switch.

My conclusion of all those discussions is:

  • there is no "better" system for everyone.
  • there is no benefit in convincing anyone to switch.
  • we need both in parallel.
  • let's let users decide for themselves and let us help them to do so.

List of Openmoko related Jabber Multi-User Chats (MUC)

  1. openmoko@conference.jabber.org (English)
  2. openmoko@chat.linjab.net logs (Czech and Slovak)

List of Openmoko related Forums

  1. http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showforum=161
  2. http://forums.makeopensource.com
  3. http://www.neo1973-germany.de (German)
  4. http://freeyourphone.de (German)
  5. http://openmokoforums.eu and .com(English)
  6. http://forum.telefoninux.org/ (Italian)
  7. http://www.openmokofans.com/forums/ (Simplified Chinese)

Please also note that fora become more valuable by heavy useage.

List of Web based access to Mailing Lists

  1. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html test setup. needs javascript to work. please comment if you like it on the discussion page
  2. http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.announce
  3. http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community