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Okay I think we have sanitized the top-level structure, but lots remains to be done !
 
Okay I think we have sanitized the top-level structure, but lots remains to be done !
 
* Multilinguism
 
* Multilinguism
* Categorizing [[Templates]]
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* Categorizing [[Templates]] (not started)
* Categorizing [[Special:Uncategorizedpages| uncategorized pages]]
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* Categorizing [[Special:Uncategorizedpages| uncategorized pages]] (mostly done)
* Categorizing [[Special:Uncategorizedcategories|uncategorized categories]]
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* Categorizing [[Special:Uncategorizedcategories|uncategorized categories]] (almost complete, waiting on multilinguism)
* Recategorizing poorly categorized pages
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* Recategorizing poorly categorized pages (ongoing task, waiting on categorization to settle)
* Rewriting the category pages text
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* Rewriting the category pages text (waiting on categorization to settle)
 
* Some more shuffling around subcategories remains to be done
 
* Some more shuffling around subcategories remains to be done
* Clickable tree is ugly/less functional than directory-style list of subcategories (but automatic ?)
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* Clickable tree is ugly/less functional than directory-style list of subcategories (but automatic ? discussing values and goals)
* Clean the Wiki Issue page too
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* Clean the Wiki Issue page of Categorization talk too (mostly done)
 
* Integrate with the Wiki-wide navigation system (left column, main page, navboxes)
 
* Integrate with the Wiki-wide navigation system (left column, main page, navboxes)
 
* Besides "Distributions" the name of top level categories are all questionable
 
* Besides "Distributions" the name of top level categories are all questionable
** Rename "Community" as "We the people" and move "Openmoko Inc." there ?
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** Rename "Community" as "People" and move "Openmoko Inc." there ? (btw there is no 'move' for categories, only create new / move content / delete old)
 
** Is "Maturity level" as self explining as I think it should be ?
 
** Is "Maturity level" as self explining as I think it should be ?
** "Technical" is nondescriptive
 
  
 
So much work, so little time !
 
So much work, so little time !
  
 
[[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 07:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 
[[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 07:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
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Updated: [[User:MinhHaDuong|MinhHaDuong]] 06:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  
 
== Moved here from [[Wiki Issues]] ==
 
== Moved here from [[Wiki Issues]] ==

Revision as of 07:53, 14 September 2008

Okay I think we have sanitized the top-level structure, but lots remains to be done !

  • Multilinguism
  • Categorizing Templates (not started)
  • Categorizing uncategorized pages (mostly done)
  • Categorizing uncategorized categories (almost complete, waiting on multilinguism)
  • Recategorizing poorly categorized pages (ongoing task, waiting on categorization to settle)
  • Rewriting the category pages text (waiting on categorization to settle)
  • Some more shuffling around subcategories remains to be done
  • Clickable tree is ugly/less functional than directory-style list of subcategories (but automatic ? discussing values and goals)
  • Clean the Wiki Issue page of Categorization talk too (mostly done)
  • Integrate with the Wiki-wide navigation system (left column, main page, navboxes)
  • Besides "Distributions" the name of top level categories are all questionable
    • Rename "Community" as "People" and move "Openmoko Inc." there ? (btw there is no 'move' for categories, only create new / move content / delete old)
    • Is "Maturity level" as self explining as I think it should be ?

So much work, so little time !

MinhHaDuong 07:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC) Updated: MinhHaDuong 06:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Contents

Moved here from Wiki Issues

MinhHaDuong 14:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

General issues with categories

  • Please read wikipedia Categorization page and FAQ
  • There are way too many categories.
  • There should be only one category taxonomy for the "Neo type" with subcategories "FreeRunner", "Neo1973", "GTA03"... Otherwise, categories should not include the Neo type.
  • Another big taxonomy can be based on the layers model. "Chips", "Drivers", "Operating system", "Framework", "Applications"

The Category:ideas

1. Many pages have Wishlist: in the title. This syntax is potentially confusing because there is no Wishlist: namespace. TEH BOT did a mass rename from "Wishlist:(.*)" to "Wishlist/\1" ? Thanks.

2. A significant minority of pages in the "Category:ideas" are missing the prefix in the title.

3. There are two templates, { { Wishlist } } and { { Unimplemented } } . We agreed on the ML (10/9/08 IIRC) that it is unnecessary redundancy.

Category structure discovering and planning

This is a discovery of the category structure around 8/9/08 and notes about how it should be changed. Please contribute, add your comments what should be changed and how. Thanks, Kempelen

  • I don't understand why this is done manually, there are tags for that (see in the Discussion page).

Minh: This is done manually here because I plan to add comments, move things around, rearrange, rename. There is no way to do the planning with the automatic category trees, that would require editing hundreds of articles to see how things could be changed. ;-) I removed notes which are done: split skill level from Community, and split Software to main categories. Kempelen 22:24, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Applications

This will hold application articles directly in the category, but when there are multiple applications for a specific area, subcategories could be created, for example "Category:GPS Applications". Kempelen 22:24, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Community

Hardware


Distributions

Guides

General documentation categorized by target audience. The Guides root should not contain articles. Kempelen 22:24, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


User Interfaces

Applications category contains subcategories for various application groups, like GPS, Networking... This may be a problem if e.g. GPS belongs to Applications and Hardware too (and most of these stuff will belong to both). Maybe we could simply add articles to Applications AND GPS, which won't be subcategories of each other. Kempelen 20:54, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Basic End User and Advanced End User categories have been created instead User, which was not enough specific term. (And contained only WishList items!) Kempelen

Archived discussions

Archived 2008-09-12 : discussions leading to the recategorization of categories

Personal tools

Okay I think we have sanitized the top-level structure, but lots remains to be done !

  • Multilinguism
  • Categorizing Templates
  • Categorizing uncategorized pages
  • Categorizing uncategorized categories
  • Recategorizing poorly categorized pages
  • Rewriting the category pages text
  • Some more shuffling around subcategories remains to be done
  • Clickable tree is ugly/less functional than directory-style list of subcategories (but automatic ?)
  • Clean the Wiki Issue page too
  • Integrate with the Wiki-wide navigation system (left column, main page, navboxes)
  • Besides "Distributions" the name of top level categories are all questionable
    • Rename "Community" as "We the people" and move "Openmoko Inc." there ?
    • Is "Maturity level" as self explining as I think it should be ?
    • "Technical" is nondescriptive

So much work, so little time !

MinhHaDuong 07:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Moved here from Wiki Issues

MinhHaDuong 14:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

General issues with categories

  • Please read wikipedia Categorization page and FAQ
  • There are way too many categories.
  • There should be only one category taxonomy for the "Neo type" with subcategories "FreeRunner", "Neo1973", "GTA03"... Otherwise, categories should not include the Neo type.
  • Another big taxonomy can be based on the layers model. "Chips", "Drivers", "Operating system", "Framework", "Applications"

The Category:ideas

1. Many pages have Wishlist: in the title. This syntax is potentially confusing because there is no Wishlist: namespace. TEH BOT did a mass rename from "Wishlist:(.*)" to "Wishlist/\1" ? Thanks.

2. A significant minority of pages in the "Category:ideas" are missing the prefix in the title.

3. There are two templates, { { Wishlist } } and { { Unimplemented } } . We agreed on the ML (10/9/08 IIRC) that it is unnecessary redundancy.

Category structure discovering and planning

This is a discovery of the category structure around 8/9/08 and notes about how it should be changed. Please contribute, add your comments what should be changed and how. Thanks, Kempelen

  • I don't understand why this is done manually, there are tags for that (see in the Discussion page).

Minh: This is done manually here because I plan to add comments, move things around, rearrange, rename. There is no way to do the planning with the automatic category trees, that would require editing hundreds of articles to see how things could be changed. ;-) I removed notes which are done: split skill level from Community, and split Software to main categories. Kempelen 22:24, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Applications

This will hold application articles directly in the category, but when there are multiple applications for a specific area, subcategories could be created, for example "Category:GPS Applications". Kempelen 22:24, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Community

Hardware


Distributions

Guides

General documentation categorized by target audience. The Guides root should not contain articles. Kempelen 22:24, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


User Interfaces

Applications category contains subcategories for various application groups, like GPS, Networking... This may be a problem if e.g. GPS belongs to Applications and Hardware too (and most of these stuff will belong to both). Maybe we could simply add articles to Applications AND GPS, which won't be subcategories of each other. Kempelen 20:54, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Basic End User and Advanced End User categories have been created instead User, which was not enough specific term. (And contained only WishList items!) Kempelen

Archived discussions

Archived 2008-09-12 : discussions leading to the recategorization of categories