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<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Handsfree Devices */</p> <hr /> <div>{{todo|All headsets listed on this page need additional testings. Please add your impressions/suggestions}}<br /> {{Improve}}<br /> <br /> List of all headsets known to work fully or partially, or don't work at all.<br /> <br /> =Mono headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: Please report using headset buttons to pick/release call.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |no-name &quot;Jabra&quot;<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |discovered as &quot;Bluetooth headset&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |&quot;Jabra BT 125&quot;<br /> |chaitanya chandel<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect/Vol<br /> |also responds to IndicateCall<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |DigitalPioneer<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Explorer 220<br /> |Vendion<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |BT Headset-12<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |no-name<br /> |-<br /> |Insmat (HS200?)<br /> |Rakshasa<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |a real cheap one<br /> |-<br /> |qstarz BT-Q360<br /> |Martin JaMa Jansa<br /> |[http://www.qstarz.com/Products/Bluetooth%20Products/BH-Q360.html www.qstarz.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-333<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |it turns on/off, beeps etc properly, but gives no sound<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-200<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :(<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-203<br /> |Lindi<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :( Works with one USB-BT dongle, does not work with another USB-BT dongle and does not work with the builtin USB-BT dongle of openmoko<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics model 330<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> | Must connect as headset profile and not handsfree for buttons to work<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Stereo headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: None of the below headsets have been tested with GSM calls unless that is explicitly mentioned.<br /> <br /> Note: To test play controls (AVRCP) please test with [[Intone]]. For now (31-07-2009) it's only known player to support AVRCP. [[User:Any Key|Any Key]]<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |B-Speech Calypso<br /> |DJDAS<br /> |[http://www.b-speech.de/en/produkt-information/stereo-headsets-und-adapter/b-speech_calypso/ B-Speech.de]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |both A2DP and Headset, tested in FDOM<br /> |-<br /> |BCK-08<br /> |Zorkman<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> | tested on shr unstable from 09 feb) ; very cheap on e-bay (A2DP Stereo Bluetooth Headphone Headset) -ONLY TESTED WITH MUSIC PLAYBACK, NOT GSM CALL-<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT620s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/Headsets/Pages/Jabrabt620s.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |32-60 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez4 and QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT650s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-Uk/Headsets/Pages/Jabrahalo.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |80 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT3030<br /> |Elleo<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez3 and bluez4.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT8010<br /> |Montgoss<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-uk/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT8010.aspx jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Tested on SHR-Unstable 20090708. A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Lubix UBHS-NC1<br /> |Dan Staley<br /> |[http://www.lubixmobile.com/content.php?mode=view&amp;c_idx=c0005&amp;c_type=06&amp;str_block=l001 lubixmobile.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stero Music via mplayer or Intone works great. All buttons work. I havent tried GSM calls yet. (Tested on SHR-U)<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola HT820<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |headset (need to restart bluetoothd to get headset working after pairing) tested in SHR testing (and unstable) with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola S9-HD<br /> |BillK<br /> |[http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Consumers/global/flash_content/microsites/s9hd/index.html motorola.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-unstable - A2DP works fine(mplayer/intone), gsm may work but have NOT tried it. Good for active use (walking/running/bike etc) - but sound may not be highest quality.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-103<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in Om 2008.12<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-214<br /> |c-punk-t<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-testing-20100309<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-505<br /> |TimoJyrinki<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Debian testing. Paired with gnome-bluetooth, music played with intone.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-604<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |DJ-style headphones, tested in FDOM and FSO milestone 5<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia CK-15W<br /> |pb0<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Car bluetooth, tested with SHR-unstable <br /> <br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics 320<br /> |shoragan (#openmoko)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested to work with GSM calls according to shoragan on #openmoko.<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics P590<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |The Digital Pioneer<br /> |[http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/voyager-855 plantronics.com]<br /> |$30-$60 on Newegg<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stereo for music, mono for calls. Other person reported: stereo bluetooth tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works perfectly. Works with GSM calls and AVRCP (media player buttons)<br /> |-<br /> |Sennheiser MM200<br /> |CyrusDreams<br /> |[http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headsets_mobile_music_502411?Open&amp;row=3 sennheiser.com]<br /> |90-160EUR<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |Manually configured, SHR-unstable, bluez4. A2DP/mplayer works, Intone works with controls. GSM untested.<br /> |- <br /> |Sony Ericsson HBH-DS200<br /> |Valos<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works <br /> perfectly; GSM calls not tested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Sony HBH-DS970<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds970?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Intone works, with buttons. Calls untested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Venturi Mini<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.myventuri.com/home.aspx MyVenturi]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Intone works, calls and phonebook sync not tested yet.<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-701<br /> |Yogiz<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Just tried A2DP for now. Works perfectly, volume controls, track changing, everything. Will try gsm calls later. Used SHR unstable.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Audio systems=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |Gear4 Blackbox<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |[http://www.gear4.com Gear4]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> =Handsfree Devices=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Caller ID<br /> !Distro<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola T505<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |[http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/t505 Motorola]<br /> |$56 US<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> | qtmoko<br /> |Connect as Handsfree, call button does hangup and answer calls, but sporadically, connect as headset doesn't work well at all<br /> |-<br /> |VR3 VRBT200V<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Cheap<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> | qtmoko<br /> |Connect as Handsfree profile, gets incoming number and accepts call on button press and hangsup on button press. <br /> |}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Headsets]]<br /> [[Category:Bluetooth]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_bluetooth_headsets 2010-09-18T21:56:11Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: </p> <hr /> <div>{{todo|All headsets listed on this page need additional testings. Please add your impressions/suggestions}}<br /> {{Improve}}<br /> <br /> List of all headsets known to work fully or partially, or don't work at all.<br /> <br /> =Mono headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: Please report using headset buttons to pick/release call.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |no-name &quot;Jabra&quot;<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |discovered as &quot;Bluetooth headset&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |&quot;Jabra BT 125&quot;<br /> |chaitanya chandel<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect/Vol<br /> |also responds to IndicateCall<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |DigitalPioneer<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Explorer 220<br /> |Vendion<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |BT Headset-12<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |no-name<br /> |-<br /> |Insmat (HS200?)<br /> |Rakshasa<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |a real cheap one<br /> |-<br /> |qstarz BT-Q360<br /> |Martin JaMa Jansa<br /> |[http://www.qstarz.com/Products/Bluetooth%20Products/BH-Q360.html www.qstarz.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-333<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |it turns on/off, beeps etc properly, but gives no sound<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-200<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :(<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-203<br /> |Lindi<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :( Works with one USB-BT dongle, does not work with another USB-BT dongle and does not work with the builtin USB-BT dongle of openmoko<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics model 330<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> | Must connect as headset profile and not handsfree for buttons to work<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Stereo headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: None of the below headsets have been tested with GSM calls unless that is explicitly mentioned.<br /> <br /> Note: To test play controls (AVRCP) please test with [[Intone]]. For now (31-07-2009) it's only known player to support AVRCP. [[User:Any Key|Any Key]]<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |B-Speech Calypso<br /> |DJDAS<br /> |[http://www.b-speech.de/en/produkt-information/stereo-headsets-und-adapter/b-speech_calypso/ B-Speech.de]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |both A2DP and Headset, tested in FDOM<br /> |-<br /> |BCK-08<br /> |Zorkman<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> | tested on shr unstable from 09 feb) ; very cheap on e-bay (A2DP Stereo Bluetooth Headphone Headset) -ONLY TESTED WITH MUSIC PLAYBACK, NOT GSM CALL-<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT620s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/Headsets/Pages/Jabrabt620s.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |32-60 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez4 and QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT650s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-Uk/Headsets/Pages/Jabrahalo.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |80 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT3030<br /> |Elleo<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez3 and bluez4.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT8010<br /> |Montgoss<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-uk/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT8010.aspx jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Tested on SHR-Unstable 20090708. A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Lubix UBHS-NC1<br /> |Dan Staley<br /> |[http://www.lubixmobile.com/content.php?mode=view&amp;c_idx=c0005&amp;c_type=06&amp;str_block=l001 lubixmobile.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stero Music via mplayer or Intone works great. All buttons work. I havent tried GSM calls yet. (Tested on SHR-U)<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola HT820<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |headset (need to restart bluetoothd to get headset working after pairing) tested in SHR testing (and unstable) with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola S9-HD<br /> |BillK<br /> |[http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Consumers/global/flash_content/microsites/s9hd/index.html motorola.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-unstable - A2DP works fine(mplayer/intone), gsm may work but have NOT tried it. Good for active use (walking/running/bike etc) - but sound may not be highest quality.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-103<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in Om 2008.12<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-214<br /> |c-punk-t<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-testing-20100309<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-505<br /> |TimoJyrinki<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Debian testing. Paired with gnome-bluetooth, music played with intone.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-604<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |DJ-style headphones, tested in FDOM and FSO milestone 5<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia CK-15W<br /> |pb0<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Car bluetooth, tested with SHR-unstable <br /> <br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics 320<br /> |shoragan (#openmoko)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested to work with GSM calls according to shoragan on #openmoko.<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics P590<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |The Digital Pioneer<br /> |[http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/voyager-855 plantronics.com]<br /> |$30-$60 on Newegg<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stereo for music, mono for calls. Other person reported: stereo bluetooth tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works perfectly. Works with GSM calls and AVRCP (media player buttons)<br /> |-<br /> |Sennheiser MM200<br /> |CyrusDreams<br /> |[http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headsets_mobile_music_502411?Open&amp;row=3 sennheiser.com]<br /> |90-160EUR<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |Manually configured, SHR-unstable, bluez4. A2DP/mplayer works, Intone works with controls. GSM untested.<br /> |- <br /> |Sony Ericsson HBH-DS200<br /> |Valos<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works <br /> perfectly; GSM calls not tested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Sony HBH-DS970<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds970?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Intone works, with buttons. Calls untested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Venturi Mini<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.myventuri.com/home.aspx MyVenturi]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Intone works, calls and phonebook sync not tested yet.<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-701<br /> |Yogiz<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Just tried A2DP for now. Works perfectly, volume controls, track changing, everything. Will try gsm calls later. Used SHR unstable.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Audio systems=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |Gear4 Blackbox<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |[http://www.gear4.com Gear4]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> =Handsfree Devices=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Caller ID<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola T505<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |[http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/t505 Motorola]<br /> |$56 US<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree, call button does not hangup or answer calls, connect as headset doesn't work well at all<br /> |-<br /> |VR3 VRBT200V<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Cheap<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree profile, gets incoming number and accepts call on button press and hangsup on button press. <br /> |}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Headsets]]<br /> [[Category:Bluetooth]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_bluetooth_headsets 2010-09-18T21:55:00Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Mono headsets */</p> <hr /> <div>{{todo|All headsets listed on this page need additional testings. Please add your impressions/suggestions}}<br /> {{Improve}}<br /> <br /> List of all headsets known to work fully or partially, or don't work at all.<br /> <br /> =Mono headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: Please report using headset buttons to pick/release call.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |no-name &quot;Jabra&quot;<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |discovered as &quot;Bluetooth headset&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |&quot;Jabra BT 125&quot;<br /> |chaitanya chandel<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect/Vol<br /> |also responds to IndicateCall<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |DigitalPioneer<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Explorer 220<br /> |Vendion<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |BT Headset-12<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |no-name<br /> |-<br /> |Insmat (HS200?)<br /> |Rakshasa<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |a real cheap one<br /> |-<br /> |qstarz BT-Q360<br /> |Martin JaMa Jansa<br /> |[http://www.qstarz.com/Products/Bluetooth%20Products/BH-Q360.html www.qstarz.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-333<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |it turns on/off, beeps etc properly, but gives no sound<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-200<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :(<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-203<br /> |Lindi<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :( Works with one USB-BT dongle, does not work with another USB-BT dongle and does not work with the builtin USB-BT dongle of openmoko<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics model 330<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> | Must connect as headset profile and not handsfree for buttons to work<br /> |-<br /> }<br /> <br /> =Stereo headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: None of the below headsets have been tested with GSM calls unless that is explicitly mentioned.<br /> <br /> Note: To test play controls (AVRCP) please test with [[Intone]]. For now (31-07-2009) it's only known player to support AVRCP. [[User:Any Key|Any Key]]<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |B-Speech Calypso<br /> |DJDAS<br /> |[http://www.b-speech.de/en/produkt-information/stereo-headsets-und-adapter/b-speech_calypso/ B-Speech.de]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |both A2DP and Headset, tested in FDOM<br /> |-<br /> |BCK-08<br /> |Zorkman<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> | tested on shr unstable from 09 feb) ; very cheap on e-bay (A2DP Stereo Bluetooth Headphone Headset) -ONLY TESTED WITH MUSIC PLAYBACK, NOT GSM CALL-<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT620s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/Headsets/Pages/Jabrabt620s.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |32-60 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez4 and QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT650s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-Uk/Headsets/Pages/Jabrahalo.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |80 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT3030<br /> |Elleo<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez3 and bluez4.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT8010<br /> |Montgoss<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-uk/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT8010.aspx jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Tested on SHR-Unstable 20090708. A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Lubix UBHS-NC1<br /> |Dan Staley<br /> |[http://www.lubixmobile.com/content.php?mode=view&amp;c_idx=c0005&amp;c_type=06&amp;str_block=l001 lubixmobile.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stero Music via mplayer or Intone works great. All buttons work. I havent tried GSM calls yet. (Tested on SHR-U)<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola HT820<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |headset (need to restart bluetoothd to get headset working after pairing) tested in SHR testing (and unstable) with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola S9-HD<br /> |BillK<br /> |[http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Consumers/global/flash_content/microsites/s9hd/index.html motorola.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-unstable - A2DP works fine(mplayer/intone), gsm may work but have NOT tried it. Good for active use (walking/running/bike etc) - but sound may not be highest quality.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-103<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in Om 2008.12<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-214<br /> |c-punk-t<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-testing-20100309<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-505<br /> |TimoJyrinki<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Debian testing. Paired with gnome-bluetooth, music played with intone.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-604<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |DJ-style headphones, tested in FDOM and FSO milestone 5<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia CK-15W<br /> |pb0<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Car bluetooth, tested with SHR-unstable <br /> <br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics 320<br /> |shoragan (#openmoko)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested to work with GSM calls according to shoragan on #openmoko.<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics P590<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |The Digital Pioneer<br /> |[http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/voyager-855 plantronics.com]<br /> |$30-$60 on Newegg<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stereo for music, mono for calls. Other person reported: stereo bluetooth tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works perfectly. Works with GSM calls and AVRCP (media player buttons)<br /> |-<br /> |Sennheiser MM200<br /> |CyrusDreams<br /> |[http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headsets_mobile_music_502411?Open&amp;row=3 sennheiser.com]<br /> |90-160EUR<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |Manually configured, SHR-unstable, bluez4. A2DP/mplayer works, Intone works with controls. GSM untested.<br /> |- <br /> |Sony Ericsson HBH-DS200<br /> |Valos<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works <br /> perfectly; GSM calls not tested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Sony HBH-DS970<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds970?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Intone works, with buttons. Calls untested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Venturi Mini<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.myventuri.com/home.aspx MyVenturi]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Intone works, calls and phonebook sync not tested yet.<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-701<br /> |Yogiz<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Just tried A2DP for now. Works perfectly, volume controls, track changing, everything. Will try gsm calls later. Used SHR unstable.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Audio systems=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |Gear4 Blackbox<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |[http://www.gear4.com Gear4]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> =Handsfree Devices=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Caller ID<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola T505<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |[http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/t505 Motorola]<br /> |$56 US<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree, call button does not hangup or answer calls, connect as headset doesn't work well at all<br /> |-<br /> |VR3 VRBT200V<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Cheap<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree profile, gets incoming number and accepts call on button press and hangsup on button press. <br /> |}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Headsets]]<br /> [[Category:Bluetooth]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_bluetooth_headsets 2010-09-18T21:52:53Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Handsfree Devices */</p> <hr /> <div>{{todo|All headsets listed on this page need additional testings. Please add your impressions/suggestions}}<br /> {{Improve}}<br /> <br /> List of all headsets known to work fully or partially, or don't work at all.<br /> <br /> =Mono headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: Please report using headset buttons to pick/release call.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |no-name &quot;Jabra&quot;<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |discovered as &quot;Bluetooth headset&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |&quot;Jabra BT 125&quot;<br /> |chaitanya chandel<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect/Vol<br /> |also responds to IndicateCall<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |DigitalPioneer<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Explorer 220<br /> |Vendion<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |BT Headset-12<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |no-name<br /> |-<br /> |Insmat (HS200?)<br /> |Rakshasa<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |a real cheap one<br /> |-<br /> |qstarz BT-Q360<br /> |Martin JaMa Jansa<br /> |[http://www.qstarz.com/Products/Bluetooth%20Products/BH-Q360.html www.qstarz.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-333<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |it turns on/off, beeps etc properly, but gives no sound<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-200<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :(<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-203<br /> |Lindi<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :( Works with one USB-BT dongle, does not work with another USB-BT dongle and does not work with the builtin USB-BT dongle of openmoko<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics model 330<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Stereo headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: None of the below headsets have been tested with GSM calls unless that is explicitly mentioned.<br /> <br /> Note: To test play controls (AVRCP) please test with [[Intone]]. For now (31-07-2009) it's only known player to support AVRCP. [[User:Any Key|Any Key]]<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |B-Speech Calypso<br /> |DJDAS<br /> |[http://www.b-speech.de/en/produkt-information/stereo-headsets-und-adapter/b-speech_calypso/ B-Speech.de]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |both A2DP and Headset, tested in FDOM<br /> |-<br /> |BCK-08<br /> |Zorkman<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> | tested on shr unstable from 09 feb) ; very cheap on e-bay (A2DP Stereo Bluetooth Headphone Headset) -ONLY TESTED WITH MUSIC PLAYBACK, NOT GSM CALL-<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT620s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/Headsets/Pages/Jabrabt620s.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |32-60 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez4 and QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT650s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-Uk/Headsets/Pages/Jabrahalo.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |80 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT3030<br /> |Elleo<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez3 and bluez4.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT8010<br /> |Montgoss<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-uk/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT8010.aspx jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Tested on SHR-Unstable 20090708. A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Lubix UBHS-NC1<br /> |Dan Staley<br /> |[http://www.lubixmobile.com/content.php?mode=view&amp;c_idx=c0005&amp;c_type=06&amp;str_block=l001 lubixmobile.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stero Music via mplayer or Intone works great. All buttons work. I havent tried GSM calls yet. (Tested on SHR-U)<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola HT820<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |headset (need to restart bluetoothd to get headset working after pairing) tested in SHR testing (and unstable) with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola S9-HD<br /> |BillK<br /> |[http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Consumers/global/flash_content/microsites/s9hd/index.html motorola.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-unstable - A2DP works fine(mplayer/intone), gsm may work but have NOT tried it. Good for active use (walking/running/bike etc) - but sound may not be highest quality.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-103<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in Om 2008.12<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-214<br /> |c-punk-t<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-testing-20100309<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-505<br /> |TimoJyrinki<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Debian testing. Paired with gnome-bluetooth, music played with intone.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-604<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |DJ-style headphones, tested in FDOM and FSO milestone 5<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia CK-15W<br /> |pb0<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Car bluetooth, tested with SHR-unstable <br /> <br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics 320<br /> |shoragan (#openmoko)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested to work with GSM calls according to shoragan on #openmoko.<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics P590<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |The Digital Pioneer<br /> |[http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/voyager-855 plantronics.com]<br /> |$30-$60 on Newegg<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stereo for music, mono for calls. Other person reported: stereo bluetooth tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works perfectly. Works with GSM calls and AVRCP (media player buttons)<br /> |-<br /> |Sennheiser MM200<br /> |CyrusDreams<br /> |[http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headsets_mobile_music_502411?Open&amp;row=3 sennheiser.com]<br /> |90-160EUR<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |Manually configured, SHR-unstable, bluez4. A2DP/mplayer works, Intone works with controls. GSM untested.<br /> |- <br /> |Sony Ericsson HBH-DS200<br /> |Valos<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works <br /> perfectly; GSM calls not tested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Sony HBH-DS970<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds970?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Intone works, with buttons. Calls untested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Venturi Mini<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.myventuri.com/home.aspx MyVenturi]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Intone works, calls and phonebook sync not tested yet.<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-701<br /> |Yogiz<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Just tried A2DP for now. Works perfectly, volume controls, track changing, everything. Will try gsm calls later. Used SHR unstable.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Audio systems=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |Gear4 Blackbox<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |[http://www.gear4.com Gear4]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> =Handsfree Devices=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Caller ID<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola T505<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |[http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/t505 Motorola]<br /> |$56 US<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree, call button does not hangup or answer calls, connect as headset doesn't work well at all<br /> |-<br /> |VR3 VRBT200V<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Cheap<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree profile, gets incoming number and accepts call on button press and hangsup on button press. <br /> |}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Headsets]]<br /> [[Category:Bluetooth]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_bluetooth_headsets 2010-09-16T08:44:19Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Handsfree Devices */</p> <hr /> <div>{{todo|All headsets listed on this page need additional testings. Please add your impressions/suggestions}}<br /> {{Improve}}<br /> <br /> List of all headsets known to work fully or partially, or don't work at all.<br /> <br /> =Mono headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: Please report using headset buttons to pick/release call.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |no-name &quot;Jabra&quot;<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |discovered as &quot;Bluetooth headset&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |&quot;Jabra BT 125&quot;<br /> |chaitanya chandel<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect/Vol<br /> |also responds to IndicateCall<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |DigitalPioneer<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Explorer 220<br /> |Vendion<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |BT Headset-12<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |no-name<br /> |-<br /> |Insmat (HS200?)<br /> |Rakshasa<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |a real cheap one<br /> |-<br /> |qstarz BT-Q360<br /> |Martin JaMa Jansa<br /> |[http://www.qstarz.com/Products/Bluetooth%20Products/BH-Q360.html www.qstarz.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-333<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |it turns on/off, beeps etc properly, but gives no sound<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-200<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :(<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-203<br /> |Lindi<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :( Works with one USB-BT dongle, does not work with another USB-BT dongle and does not work with the builtin USB-BT dongle of openmoko<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics model 330<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Stereo headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: None of the below headsets have been tested with GSM calls unless that is explicitly mentioned.<br /> <br /> Note: To test play controls (AVRCP) please test with [[Intone]]. For now (31-07-2009) it's only known player to support AVRCP. [[User:Any Key|Any Key]]<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |B-Speech Calypso<br /> |DJDAS<br /> |[http://www.b-speech.de/en/produkt-information/stereo-headsets-und-adapter/b-speech_calypso/ B-Speech.de]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |both A2DP and Headset, tested in FDOM<br /> |-<br /> |BCK-08<br /> |Zorkman<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> | tested on shr unstable from 09 feb) ; very cheap on e-bay (A2DP Stereo Bluetooth Headphone Headset) -ONLY TESTED WITH MUSIC PLAYBACK, NOT GSM CALL-<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT620s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/Headsets/Pages/Jabrabt620s.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |32-60 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez4 and QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT650s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-Uk/Headsets/Pages/Jabrahalo.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |80 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT3030<br /> |Elleo<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez3 and bluez4.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT8010<br /> |Montgoss<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-uk/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT8010.aspx jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Tested on SHR-Unstable 20090708. A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Lubix UBHS-NC1<br /> |Dan Staley<br /> |[http://www.lubixmobile.com/content.php?mode=view&amp;c_idx=c0005&amp;c_type=06&amp;str_block=l001 lubixmobile.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stero Music via mplayer or Intone works great. All buttons work. I havent tried GSM calls yet. (Tested on SHR-U)<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola HT820<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |headset (need to restart bluetoothd to get headset working after pairing) tested in SHR testing (and unstable) with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola S9-HD<br /> |BillK<br /> |[http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Consumers/global/flash_content/microsites/s9hd/index.html motorola.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-unstable - A2DP works fine(mplayer/intone), gsm may work but have NOT tried it. Good for active use (walking/running/bike etc) - but sound may not be highest quality.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-103<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in Om 2008.12<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-214<br /> |c-punk-t<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-testing-20100309<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-505<br /> |TimoJyrinki<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Debian testing. Paired with gnome-bluetooth, music played with intone.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-604<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |DJ-style headphones, tested in FDOM and FSO milestone 5<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia CK-15W<br /> |pb0<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Car bluetooth, tested with SHR-unstable <br /> <br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics 320<br /> |shoragan (#openmoko)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested to work with GSM calls according to shoragan on #openmoko.<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics P590<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |The Digital Pioneer<br /> |[http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/voyager-855 plantronics.com]<br /> |$30-$60 on Newegg<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stereo for music, mono for calls. Other person reported: stereo bluetooth tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works perfectly. Works with GSM calls and AVRCP (media player buttons)<br /> |-<br /> |Sennheiser MM200<br /> |CyrusDreams<br /> |[http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headsets_mobile_music_502411?Open&amp;row=3 sennheiser.com]<br /> |90-160EUR<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |Manually configured, SHR-unstable, bluez4. A2DP/mplayer works, Intone works with controls. GSM untested.<br /> |- <br /> |Sony Ericsson HBH-DS200<br /> |Valos<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works <br /> perfectly; GSM calls not tested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Sony HBH-DS970<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds970?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Intone works, with buttons. Calls untested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Venturi Mini<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.myventuri.com/home.aspx MyVenturi]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Intone works, calls and phonebook sync not tested yet.<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-701<br /> |Yogiz<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Just tried A2DP for now. Works perfectly, volume controls, track changing, everything. Will try gsm calls later. Used SHR unstable.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Audio systems=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |Gear4 Blackbox<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |[http://www.gear4.com Gear4]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> =Handsfree Devices=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola T505<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |[http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/t505 Motorola]<br /> |$56 US<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree, call button does not hangup or answer calls<br /> |-<br /> |VR3 VRBT200V<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Cheap<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree, call button does not hangup or answer calls <br /> |}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Headsets]]<br /> [[Category:Bluetooth]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_bluetooth_headsets 2010-09-16T08:43:25Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Handsfree Devices */</p> <hr /> <div>{{todo|All headsets listed on this page need additional testings. Please add your impressions/suggestions}}<br /> {{Improve}}<br /> <br /> List of all headsets known to work fully or partially, or don't work at all.<br /> <br /> =Mono headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: Please report using headset buttons to pick/release call.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |no-name &quot;Jabra&quot;<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |discovered as &quot;Bluetooth headset&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |&quot;Jabra BT 125&quot;<br /> |chaitanya chandel<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect/Vol<br /> |also responds to IndicateCall<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |DigitalPioneer<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Explorer 220<br /> |Vendion<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |BT Headset-12<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |no-name<br /> |-<br /> |Insmat (HS200?)<br /> |Rakshasa<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |a real cheap one<br /> |-<br /> |qstarz BT-Q360<br /> |Martin JaMa Jansa<br /> |[http://www.qstarz.com/Products/Bluetooth%20Products/BH-Q360.html www.qstarz.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-333<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |it turns on/off, beeps etc properly, but gives no sound<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-200<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :(<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-203<br /> |Lindi<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :( Works with one USB-BT dongle, does not work with another USB-BT dongle and does not work with the builtin USB-BT dongle of openmoko<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics model 330<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Stereo headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: None of the below headsets have been tested with GSM calls unless that is explicitly mentioned.<br /> <br /> Note: To test play controls (AVRCP) please test with [[Intone]]. For now (31-07-2009) it's only known player to support AVRCP. [[User:Any Key|Any Key]]<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |B-Speech Calypso<br /> |DJDAS<br /> |[http://www.b-speech.de/en/produkt-information/stereo-headsets-und-adapter/b-speech_calypso/ B-Speech.de]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |both A2DP and Headset, tested in FDOM<br /> |-<br /> |BCK-08<br /> |Zorkman<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> | tested on shr unstable from 09 feb) ; very cheap on e-bay (A2DP Stereo Bluetooth Headphone Headset) -ONLY TESTED WITH MUSIC PLAYBACK, NOT GSM CALL-<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT620s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/Headsets/Pages/Jabrabt620s.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |32-60 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez4 and QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT650s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-Uk/Headsets/Pages/Jabrahalo.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |80 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT3030<br /> |Elleo<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez3 and bluez4.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT8010<br /> |Montgoss<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-uk/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT8010.aspx jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Tested on SHR-Unstable 20090708. A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Lubix UBHS-NC1<br /> |Dan Staley<br /> |[http://www.lubixmobile.com/content.php?mode=view&amp;c_idx=c0005&amp;c_type=06&amp;str_block=l001 lubixmobile.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stero Music via mplayer or Intone works great. All buttons work. I havent tried GSM calls yet. (Tested on SHR-U)<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola HT820<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |headset (need to restart bluetoothd to get headset working after pairing) tested in SHR testing (and unstable) with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola S9-HD<br /> |BillK<br /> |[http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Consumers/global/flash_content/microsites/s9hd/index.html motorola.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-unstable - A2DP works fine(mplayer/intone), gsm may work but have NOT tried it. Good for active use (walking/running/bike etc) - but sound may not be highest quality.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-103<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in Om 2008.12<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-214<br /> |c-punk-t<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-testing-20100309<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-505<br /> |TimoJyrinki<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Debian testing. Paired with gnome-bluetooth, music played with intone.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-604<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |DJ-style headphones, tested in FDOM and FSO milestone 5<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia CK-15W<br /> |pb0<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Car bluetooth, tested with SHR-unstable <br /> <br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics 320<br /> |shoragan (#openmoko)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested to work with GSM calls according to shoragan on #openmoko.<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics P590<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |The Digital Pioneer<br /> |[http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/voyager-855 plantronics.com]<br /> |$30-$60 on Newegg<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stereo for music, mono for calls. Other person reported: stereo bluetooth tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works perfectly. Works with GSM calls and AVRCP (media player buttons)<br /> |-<br /> |Sennheiser MM200<br /> |CyrusDreams<br /> |[http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headsets_mobile_music_502411?Open&amp;row=3 sennheiser.com]<br /> |90-160EUR<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |Manually configured, SHR-unstable, bluez4. A2DP/mplayer works, Intone works with controls. GSM untested.<br /> |- <br /> |Sony Ericsson HBH-DS200<br /> |Valos<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works <br /> perfectly; GSM calls not tested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Sony HBH-DS970<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds970?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Intone works, with buttons. Calls untested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Venturi Mini<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.myventuri.com/home.aspx MyVenturi]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Intone works, calls and phonebook sync not tested yet.<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-701<br /> |Yogiz<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Just tried A2DP for now. Works perfectly, volume controls, track changing, everything. Will try gsm calls later. Used SHR unstable.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Audio systems=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |Gear4 Blackbox<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |[http://www.gear4.com Gear4]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> =Handsfree Devices=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola T505<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/t505/<br /> |$56 US<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree, call button does not hangup or answer calls<br /> |-<br /> |VR3 VRBT200V<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Cheap<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree, call button does not hangup or answer calls <br /> |}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Headsets]]<br /> [[Category:Bluetooth]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_bluetooth_headsets 2010-09-16T08:42:05Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Handsfree Devices */</p> <hr /> <div>{{todo|All headsets listed on this page need additional testings. Please add your impressions/suggestions}}<br /> {{Improve}}<br /> <br /> List of all headsets known to work fully or partially, or don't work at all.<br /> <br /> =Mono headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: Please report using headset buttons to pick/release call.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |no-name &quot;Jabra&quot;<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |discovered as &quot;Bluetooth headset&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |&quot;Jabra BT 125&quot;<br /> |chaitanya chandel<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect/Vol<br /> |also responds to IndicateCall<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |DigitalPioneer<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Explorer 220<br /> |Vendion<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |BT Headset-12<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |no-name<br /> |-<br /> |Insmat (HS200?)<br /> |Rakshasa<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |a real cheap one<br /> |-<br /> |qstarz BT-Q360<br /> |Martin JaMa Jansa<br /> |[http://www.qstarz.com/Products/Bluetooth%20Products/BH-Q360.html www.qstarz.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-333<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |it turns on/off, beeps etc properly, but gives no sound<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-200<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :(<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-203<br /> |Lindi<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :( Works with one USB-BT dongle, does not work with another USB-BT dongle and does not work with the builtin USB-BT dongle of openmoko<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics model 330<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Stereo headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: None of the below headsets have been tested with GSM calls unless that is explicitly mentioned.<br /> <br /> Note: To test play controls (AVRCP) please test with [[Intone]]. For now (31-07-2009) it's only known player to support AVRCP. [[User:Any Key|Any Key]]<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |B-Speech Calypso<br /> |DJDAS<br /> |[http://www.b-speech.de/en/produkt-information/stereo-headsets-und-adapter/b-speech_calypso/ B-Speech.de]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |both A2DP and Headset, tested in FDOM<br /> |-<br /> |BCK-08<br /> |Zorkman<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> | tested on shr unstable from 09 feb) ; very cheap on e-bay (A2DP Stereo Bluetooth Headphone Headset) -ONLY TESTED WITH MUSIC PLAYBACK, NOT GSM CALL-<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT620s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/Headsets/Pages/Jabrabt620s.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |32-60 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez4 and QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT650s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-Uk/Headsets/Pages/Jabrahalo.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |80 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT3030<br /> |Elleo<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez3 and bluez4.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT8010<br /> |Montgoss<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-uk/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT8010.aspx jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Tested on SHR-Unstable 20090708. A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Lubix UBHS-NC1<br /> |Dan Staley<br /> |[http://www.lubixmobile.com/content.php?mode=view&amp;c_idx=c0005&amp;c_type=06&amp;str_block=l001 lubixmobile.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stero Music via mplayer or Intone works great. All buttons work. I havent tried GSM calls yet. (Tested on SHR-U)<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola HT820<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |headset (need to restart bluetoothd to get headset working after pairing) tested in SHR testing (and unstable) with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola S9-HD<br /> |BillK<br /> |[http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Consumers/global/flash_content/microsites/s9hd/index.html motorola.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-unstable - A2DP works fine(mplayer/intone), gsm may work but have NOT tried it. Good for active use (walking/running/bike etc) - but sound may not be highest quality.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-103<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in Om 2008.12<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-214<br /> |c-punk-t<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-testing-20100309<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-505<br /> |TimoJyrinki<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Debian testing. Paired with gnome-bluetooth, music played with intone.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-604<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |DJ-style headphones, tested in FDOM and FSO milestone 5<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia CK-15W<br /> |pb0<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Car bluetooth, tested with SHR-unstable <br /> <br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics 320<br /> |shoragan (#openmoko)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested to work with GSM calls according to shoragan on #openmoko.<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics P590<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |The Digital Pioneer<br /> |[http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/voyager-855 plantronics.com]<br /> |$30-$60 on Newegg<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stereo for music, mono for calls. Other person reported: stereo bluetooth tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works perfectly. Works with GSM calls and AVRCP (media player buttons)<br /> |-<br /> |Sennheiser MM200<br /> |CyrusDreams<br /> |[http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headsets_mobile_music_502411?Open&amp;row=3 sennheiser.com]<br /> |90-160EUR<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |Manually configured, SHR-unstable, bluez4. A2DP/mplayer works, Intone works with controls. GSM untested.<br /> |- <br /> |Sony Ericsson HBH-DS200<br /> |Valos<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works <br /> perfectly; GSM calls not tested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Sony HBH-DS970<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds970?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Intone works, with buttons. Calls untested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Venturi Mini<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.myventuri.com/home.aspx MyVenturi]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Intone works, calls and phonebook sync not tested yet.<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-701<br /> |Yogiz<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Just tried A2DP for now. Works perfectly, volume controls, track changing, everything. Will try gsm calls later. Used SHR unstable.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Audio systems=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |Gear4 Blackbox<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |[http://www.gear4.com Gear4]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> =Handsfree Devices=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola T505<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |$56 US<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree, call button does not hangup or answer calls<br /> |-<br /> |VR3 VRBT200V<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Cheap<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree, call button does not hangup or answer calls <br /> |}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Headsets]]<br /> [[Category:Bluetooth]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_bluetooth_headsets 2010-09-16T08:38:51Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: </p> <hr /> <div>{{todo|All headsets listed on this page need additional testings. Please add your impressions/suggestions}}<br /> {{Improve}}<br /> <br /> List of all headsets known to work fully or partially, or don't work at all.<br /> <br /> =Mono headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: Please report using headset buttons to pick/release call.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |no-name &quot;Jabra&quot;<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |discovered as &quot;Bluetooth headset&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |&quot;Jabra BT 125&quot;<br /> |chaitanya chandel<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect/Vol<br /> |also responds to IndicateCall<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |DigitalPioneer<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Explorer 220<br /> |Vendion<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |BT Headset-12<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |no-name<br /> |-<br /> |Insmat (HS200?)<br /> |Rakshasa<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |a real cheap one<br /> |-<br /> |qstarz BT-Q360<br /> |Martin JaMa Jansa<br /> |[http://www.qstarz.com/Products/Bluetooth%20Products/BH-Q360.html www.qstarz.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-333<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |it turns on/off, beeps etc properly, but gives no sound<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-200<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :(<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-203<br /> |Lindi<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :( Works with one USB-BT dongle, does not work with another USB-BT dongle and does not work with the builtin USB-BT dongle of openmoko<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics model 330<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Stereo headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: None of the below headsets have been tested with GSM calls unless that is explicitly mentioned.<br /> <br /> Note: To test play controls (AVRCP) please test with [[Intone]]. For now (31-07-2009) it's only known player to support AVRCP. [[User:Any Key|Any Key]]<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |B-Speech Calypso<br /> |DJDAS<br /> |[http://www.b-speech.de/en/produkt-information/stereo-headsets-und-adapter/b-speech_calypso/ B-Speech.de]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |both A2DP and Headset, tested in FDOM<br /> |-<br /> |BCK-08<br /> |Zorkman<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> | tested on shr unstable from 09 feb) ; very cheap on e-bay (A2DP Stereo Bluetooth Headphone Headset) -ONLY TESTED WITH MUSIC PLAYBACK, NOT GSM CALL-<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT620s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/Headsets/Pages/Jabrabt620s.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |32-60 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez4 and QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT650s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-Uk/Headsets/Pages/Jabrahalo.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |80 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT3030<br /> |Elleo<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez3 and bluez4.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT8010<br /> |Montgoss<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-uk/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT8010.aspx jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Tested on SHR-Unstable 20090708. A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Lubix UBHS-NC1<br /> |Dan Staley<br /> |[http://www.lubixmobile.com/content.php?mode=view&amp;c_idx=c0005&amp;c_type=06&amp;str_block=l001 lubixmobile.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stero Music via mplayer or Intone works great. All buttons work. I havent tried GSM calls yet. (Tested on SHR-U)<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola HT820<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |headset (need to restart bluetoothd to get headset working after pairing) tested in SHR testing (and unstable) with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola S9-HD<br /> |BillK<br /> |[http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Consumers/global/flash_content/microsites/s9hd/index.html motorola.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-unstable - A2DP works fine(mplayer/intone), gsm may work but have NOT tried it. Good for active use (walking/running/bike etc) - but sound may not be highest quality.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-103<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in Om 2008.12<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-214<br /> |c-punk-t<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-testing-20100309<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-505<br /> |TimoJyrinki<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Debian testing. Paired with gnome-bluetooth, music played with intone.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-604<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |DJ-style headphones, tested in FDOM and FSO milestone 5<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia CK-15W<br /> |pb0<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Car bluetooth, tested with SHR-unstable <br /> <br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics 320<br /> |shoragan (#openmoko)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested to work with GSM calls according to shoragan on #openmoko.<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics P590<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |The Digital Pioneer<br /> |[http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/voyager-855 plantronics.com]<br /> |$30-$60 on Newegg<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stereo for music, mono for calls. Other person reported: stereo bluetooth tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works perfectly. Works with GSM calls and AVRCP (media player buttons)<br /> |-<br /> |Sennheiser MM200<br /> |CyrusDreams<br /> |[http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headsets_mobile_music_502411?Open&amp;row=3 sennheiser.com]<br /> |90-160EUR<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |Manually configured, SHR-unstable, bluez4. A2DP/mplayer works, Intone works with controls. GSM untested.<br /> |- <br /> |Sony Ericsson HBH-DS200<br /> |Valos<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works <br /> perfectly; GSM calls not tested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Sony HBH-DS970<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds970?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Intone works, with buttons. Calls untested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Venturi Mini<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.myventuri.com/home.aspx MyVenturi]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Intone works, calls and phonebook sync not tested yet.<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-701<br /> |Yogiz<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Just tried A2DP for now. Works perfectly, volume controls, track changing, everything. Will try gsm calls later. Used SHR unstable.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Audio systems=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |Gear4 Blackbox<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |[http://www.gear4.com Gear4]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> =Handsfree Devices=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola T505<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |Connect as Handsfree, call button does not hangup or answer calls<br /> |}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Headsets]]<br /> [[Category:Bluetooth]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_bluetooth_headsets 2010-09-16T08:31:54Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Mono headsets */</p> <hr /> <div>{{todo|All headsets listed on this page need additional testings. Please add your impressions/suggestions}}<br /> {{Improve}}<br /> <br /> List of all headsets known to work fully or partially, or don't work at all.<br /> <br /> =Mono headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: Please report using headset buttons to pick/release call.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !Controls<br /> !Remark<br /> |-<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |no-name &quot;Jabra&quot;<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |discovered as &quot;Bluetooth headset&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |&quot;Jabra BT 125&quot;<br /> |chaitanya chandel<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Connect/Vol<br /> |also responds to IndicateCall<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |DigitalPioneer<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Explorer 220<br /> |Vendion<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |BT Headset-12<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |no-name<br /> |-<br /> |Insmat (HS200?)<br /> |Rakshasa<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |a real cheap one<br /> |-<br /> |qstarz BT-Q360<br /> |Martin JaMa Jansa<br /> |[http://www.qstarz.com/Products/Bluetooth%20Products/BH-Q360.html www.qstarz.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-333<br /> |PaulFertser<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |it turns on/off, beeps etc properly, but gives no sound<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-200<br /> |Vanous<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :(<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-203<br /> |Lindi<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{No}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |same as above :( Works with one USB-BT dongle, does not work with another USB-BT dongle and does not work with the builtin USB-BT dongle of openmoko<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics model 330<br /> |Jim Morris<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Stereo headsets=<br /> <br /> Note: None of the below headsets have been tested with GSM calls unless that is explicitly mentioned.<br /> <br /> Note: To test play controls (AVRCP) please test with [[Intone]]. For now (31-07-2009) it's only known player to support AVRCP. [[User:Any Key|Any Key]]<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |B-Speech Calypso<br /> |DJDAS<br /> |[http://www.b-speech.de/en/produkt-information/stereo-headsets-und-adapter/b-speech_calypso/ B-Speech.de]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |both A2DP and Headset, tested in FDOM<br /> |-<br /> |BCK-08<br /> |Zorkman<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> | tested on shr unstable from 09 feb) ; very cheap on e-bay (A2DP Stereo Bluetooth Headphone Headset) -ONLY TESTED WITH MUSIC PLAYBACK, NOT GSM CALL-<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT620s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/Headsets/Pages/Jabrabt620s.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |32-60 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez4 and QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT650s<br /> |radekp<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-Uk/Headsets/Pages/Jabrahalo.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |80 EUR<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on QtMoko bluez3; A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT3030<br /> |Elleo<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx www.jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Tested on SHR with bluez3 and bluez4.<br /> |-<br /> |Jabra BT8010<br /> |Montgoss<br /> |[http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/ee-uk/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT8010.aspx jabra.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Tested on SHR-Unstable 20090708. A2DP works correctly, GSM calls untested.<br /> |-<br /> |Lubix UBHS-NC1<br /> |Dan Staley<br /> |[http://www.lubixmobile.com/content.php?mode=view&amp;c_idx=c0005&amp;c_type=06&amp;str_block=l001 lubixmobile.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stero Music via mplayer or Intone works great. All buttons work. I havent tried GSM calls yet. (Tested on SHR-U)<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola HT820<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |headset (need to restart bluetoothd to get headset working after pairing) tested in SHR testing (and unstable) with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29<br /> |-<br /> |Motorola S9-HD<br /> |BillK<br /> |[http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Consumers/global/flash_content/microsites/s9hd/index.html motorola.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-unstable - A2DP works fine(mplayer/intone), gsm may work but have NOT tried it. Good for active use (walking/running/bike etc) - but sound may not be highest quality.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-103<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in Om 2008.12<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-214<br /> |c-punk-t<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |SHR-testing-20100309<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-505<br /> |TimoJyrinki<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Debian testing. Paired with gnome-bluetooth, music played with intone.<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia BH-604<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |DJ-style headphones, tested in FDOM and FSO milestone 5<br /> |-<br /> |Nokia CK-15W<br /> |pb0<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Car bluetooth, tested with SHR-unstable <br /> <br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics 320<br /> |shoragan (#openmoko)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested to work with GSM calls according to shoragan on #openmoko.<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics P590<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |-<br /> |Plantronics Voyager 855<br /> |The Digital Pioneer<br /> |[http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/voyager-855 plantronics.com]<br /> |$30-$60 on Newegg<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Stereo for music, mono for calls. Other person reported: stereo bluetooth tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works perfectly. Works with GSM calls and AVRCP (media player buttons)<br /> |-<br /> |Sennheiser MM200<br /> |CyrusDreams<br /> |[http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headsets_mobile_music_502411?Open&amp;row=3 sennheiser.com]<br /> |90-160EUR<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{yes}}<br /> |Manually configured, SHR-unstable, bluez4. A2DP/mplayer works, Intone works with controls. GSM untested.<br /> |- <br /> |Sony Ericsson HBH-DS200<br /> |Valos<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |tested in SHR-Unstable with bluez4 and kernel 2.6.29 -- A2DP/mplayer works <br /> perfectly; GSM calls not tested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Sony HBH-DS970<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds970?lc=en&amp;cc=gb sonyericsson.com]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Intone works, with buttons. Calls untested yet<br /> |-<br /> |Venturi Mini<br /> |KaZeR<br /> |[http://www.myventuri.com/home.aspx MyVenturi]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |Intone works, calls and phonebook sync not tested yet.<br /> |-<br /> |Iqua BHS-701<br /> |Yogiz<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |Just tried A2DP for now. Works perfectly, volume controls, track changing, everything. Will try gsm calls later. Used SHR unstable.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> =Audio systems=<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4<br /> !Model<br /> !Person<br /> !Link to official website<br /> !Price<br /> !A2DP<br /> !GSM Call<br /> !play controls (AVRCP)<br /> !Remark<br /> |- <br /> |Gear4 Blackbox<br /> |mita_ore (SkypeID)<br /> |[http://www.gear4.com Gear4]<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Yes}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |{{Unknown}}<br /> |<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Headsets]]<br /> [[Category:Bluetooth]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qt_Extended_Improved 2009-09-22T21:39:54Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;h2&gt;Community Resources&lt;/h2&gt;<br /> <br /> Qt Software cancelled the Qt Extended project on 3 March 2009 ([http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-extended Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended]). The community created a fork of it and called it Qt Extended Improved:<br /> <br /> * [http://bugs.qtmoko.org/ bug tracking system]<br /> * [http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ prebuilt rootfs images for 4.4.3 and kernel]<br /> * [http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/snapbuild/ prebuilt tarballs of qt extended improved] (use kernel made for 4.4.3)<br /> * [http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git git repository]<br /> <br /> &lt;h2&gt;Installing Qt Extended Improved on the FreeRunner&lt;/h2&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;h3&gt;Install Qt Extended 4.4.3&lt;/h3&gt;<br /> <br /> There are no rootfs images for Qt Extended Improved, so first we need to install Qt Extended 4.4.3, then we can upgrade to Qt Extended Improved. Follow the instructions at [[Qt Extended 4.4.3]].<br /> <br /> &lt;h3&gt;Install Qt Extended Improved&lt;/h3&gt;<br /> <br /> Boot your FreeRunner into Qt Extended 4.4.3. Create a [[USB Networking|USB network]] connection between your workstation and the FreeRunner. Download the most recent [http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/snapbuild/ pre-built tarball]. Now you must unpack the tarball to a temporary directory and copy its contents to the FreeRunner's &lt;tt&gt;/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia&lt;/tt&gt; directory:<br /> <br /> mkdir temp<br /> cd temp<br /> tar -xzvf ../qt-extended-improved-bin-only-20090316.tar.gz <br /> scp -r * 192.168.0.202:/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/<br /> this can be resumed in a simpler and quicker operation:<br /> ( dd if=../qt-extended-improved-bin-only-20090316.tar.gz ) | ( ssh 192.168.0.202 &quot;cd /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/ &amp;&amp; tar xzv&quot; )<br /> <br /> Reboot your FreeRunner and you should be running Qt Extended Improved.<br /> <br /> &lt;h2&gt;Building Qt Extended Improved&lt;/h2&gt;<br /> <br /> First download a source tar ball from the [http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git git repository]. Then make the build directory and set the environment variables. In this example, I write the environment variables to a file then I source the file.<br /> <br /> mkdir -p /opt/QtExtended/build<br /> cd /opt/QtExtended<br /> tar -xzvf qt-extended-improved.tar.gz<br /> echo &quot;export QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH=/opt/QtExtended/qt-extended-improved&quot; &gt;&gt; setpaths <br /> echo &quot;export QPEDIR=/opt/QtExtended/build/&quot; &gt;&gt; setpaths<br /> . setpaths<br /> <br /> Install the toolchain:<br /> <br /> cd /opt<br /> wget http://qtextended.org/downloads/toolchains/arm920t-eabi.tgz<br /> tar xzvf arm920t-eabi.tgz /<br /> <br /> Do the linux three-step: configure, make, make install. Plus we build the sdk so we can make our own apps later, if we want.<br /> <br /> cd $QPEDIR<br /> $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/configure -device neo -D _FORTIFY_SOURCE=0<br /> make<br /> make install<br /> bin/qbuild sdk<br /> <br /> The binaries are in the $QPEDIR/image directory. You can copy these to your freerunner over usb like this:<br /> <br /> scp -r $QPEDIR/image/* 192.168.0.202:/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/<br /> <br /> &lt;h2&gt;Compiling an Example Qt Extended App&lt;/h2&gt;<br /> <br /> First set those indispensable Qt environment variables:<br /> <br /> . /opt/QtExtended/setpaths<br /> <br /> Next create a directory &lt;tt&gt;/opt/Qtopia/build/myapps&lt;/tt&gt;. Copy the example app. Rename the example app to something that makes sense (how about &quot;example&quot;!). Create the &lt;tt&gt;Makefile&lt;/tt&gt; and build the example.<br /> <br /> desktop# mkdir /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cd /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cp -R $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/examples/application .<br /> desktop# mv application example<br /> desktop# cd example<br /> desktop# $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild<br /> <br /> Now you have an executable &lt;tt&gt;example&lt;/tt&gt;. It won't execute on your workstation - you must secure copy it to your FreeRunner. Then secure shell into the FreeRunner, import the Qtopia environment variables and execute the app:<br /> <br /> desktop# scp example root@freerunner:/home/root<br /> root@192.168.0.202's password: <br /> example 100% 33KB 33.4KB/s 00:00 <br /> desktop# ssh 192.168.0.202<br /> root@freerunner's password: <br /> freerunner:~# . /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/qpe.env <br /> freerunner:~# ./example<br /> <br /> This is what you should see on the screen (click on image to zoom) : [[Image:Qt_extended_sdk_example_screenshot.png|100px]]<br /> <br /> &lt;h2&gt;Packaging&lt;/h2&gt;<br /> <br /> Create a .qpk file, an installable package:<br /> <br /> desktop# $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild packages<br /> <br /> Create a packages.list file for the software installer and put it in the http server root:<br /> <br /> desktop# sudo $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/bin/mkPackages /srv/www/htdocs/<br /> <br /> Copy your new package to the http server root:<br /> <br /> desktop# sudo cp pkg/*.qpk /srv/www/htdocs/<br /> <br /> On your phone, find Settings &gt; Software Packages; press the Downloads tab; go to Options &gt; Edit Servers; Options &gt; New; then enter a name and URL of http://192.168.0.200:80, or the URL for your web server. The software package manager should then be able to see $HTTPROOT/packages.list and install any packages you have.<br /> <br /> &lt;h2&gt;mp3 Support&lt;/h2&gt;<br /> <br /> If you compile your own version of Qt Extended Improved, you can add mp3 support using [http://radagast.bglug.ca/openmoko/qt-extended-4.4.3-libmad.tar.gz this patch]. Untar the file from your qt-extended-improved directory (it installs some files in the src tree) and patch using the patch file, eg:<br /> <br /> desktop# cd $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH<br /> desktop# tar -xzvf qt-extended-4.4.3-libmad.tar.gz<br /> desktop# patch -p1 &lt; qt-extended-4.4.3-libmad.patch<br /> <br /> Now configure, build, etc.<br /> <br /> &lt;h2&gt;Troubleshooting&lt;/h2&gt;<br /> <br /> If you encounter this error while compiling your example,<br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> In file included from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qglobal.h:58,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qatomic.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qvariant.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/QVariant:1,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps/example/.uic/ui_examplebase.h:13:<br /> /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h:2:66: error: /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/sdk/qtopiacore/qconfig-qpe.h: No such file or directory&lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> edit /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h and remove one /sdk/ from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/sdk/qtopiacore/qconfig-qpe.h at the top of the file.<br /> <br /> A better solution which will work for building packages too is to symbolic link the second sdk to the first...<br /> <br /> cd $QPEDIR/sdk<br /> ln -s ../sdk sdk<br /> <br /> &lt;h2&gt;Branches and Forks&lt;/h2&gt;<br /> There are various other branches and forks of qte/qtei that fix bugs or other things. List taken from http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-April/046492.html<br /> <br /> &lt;h3&gt;Major Distro Efforts&lt;/h3&gt;<br /> There are 3 major &quot;distributions&quot; for QtEI: karadogs, Radeks and Franky:<br /> <br /> * Karadog runs on 2.6.24 and is behind patches<br /> * Radek (based on karadog) is running on 2.6.28 and behind on<br /> patches<br /> * Franky is running based on Radek (patches included), but no binary<br /> distro, just an install script.<br /> <br /> &lt;h3&gt;Initial import of QTE 4.4.3 opensource release&lt;/h3&gt;<br /> [http://github.com/FilipBE/qtextended/tree/master Source]<br /> <br /> &lt;h3&gt;QTMoko&lt;/h3&gt;<br /> QtEI on Debian by Radek.<br /> <br /> [http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/qtmoko/ Homepage]<br /> <br /> [http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/tree/master/ Source]<br /> <br /> [http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/qtmoko/download/ Rootfs/kernel]<br /> <br /> &lt;h3&gt;Karadog&lt;/h3&gt;<br /> Trac, Releases, sources and semi-official Roadmap by HouYu Li<br /> <br /> [http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved KaraDog Main Trac Site].<br /> <br /> [http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ Binary releases].<br /> <br /> &lt;h3&gt;Latest and Greatest&lt;/h3&gt;<br /> Franky Van Liedekerke's branch.<br /> <br /> [http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/commits/master Source].<br /> <br /> [http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qt-issues.txt List of Issues].<br /> <br /> [http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qt-issues-fixed.txt Issues Fixed].<br /> <br /> [http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qtmoko_install.sh Install script and instructions]. Execute the script on the Neo.<br /> <br /> &lt;h3&gt;Lpotter's Branch&lt;/h3&gt;<br /> [http://github.com/lpotter/qtmoko/tree/master Source]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Qtopia| ]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Qt_Extended_Improved 2009-09-22T21:39:01Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Compile program example */</p> <hr /> <div>== Compile program example ==<br /> <br /> When I wanted to compile the example program, I had an error.I did<br /> git clone git://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git to get the sources<br /> and then builded like in the page.<br /> <br /> desktop# mkdir /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cd /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cp -R $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/examples/application .<br /> desktop# mv application example<br /> desktop# cd example<br /> desktop# $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild<br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> In file included from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qglobal.h:58,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qatomic.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qvariant.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/QVariant:1,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps/example/.uic/ui_examplebase.h:13:<br /> /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h:2:66: error: /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/sdk/qtopiacore/qconfig-qpe.h: No such file or directory&lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> In the file qconfig.h there was at the top an inclusion of the file sdk/sdk/.... I removed 1 '''sdk''' and it compiled. Is this a bug ?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 21:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> Yes it is a bug, and I'm not sure what causes it but a better solution which will work for building packages too is to symbolic link the second sdk to the first...<br /> cd $QPEDIR/sdk<br /> ln -s ../sdk sdk<br /> <br /> == It's there some GPS Application for QtEI ? ==<br /> <br /> Application &quot;mapping demo&quot; it's not working for me. It's a pity not having TangoGPS or Navit also ported to QtEI. It's there any plans to have a solid and good GPS application for this (very good) Distribution?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The &quot;mapping demo&quot; works for me. The problem on my Freerunner was, that the sys-path of gps was changed and so the gps was not turned on. I recompiled the libneogpsplugin.so with the new path after that it works for me.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 22:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> I have a pedometer application using QtMoko and an xgps clone<br /> [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtpedometer pedometer] and [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtopiagps xgps clone]<br /> <br /> == Battery duration Issue: any solution? ==<br /> <br /> I see that with QTEi, the standard duration of Battery with actual kernel (2.6.28/29) it's not more then 36/48h (sometimes also not more then 24h!).<br /> <br /> It's there any plan to have a good battery duration that now, as everyday phone, it become an big issue?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wireless Online Issue ==<br /> <br /> I'm using the Franky Van Liedekerke's last release (release 11).<br /> <br /> When i try to remove the Wireless module from &quot;internet&quot; application, QtEI simply crash (i have to remove the battery to reboot). Another problem is that if i try to stop the wifi service with the GUI, after the phone resume from a suspend, it restart automatically the Wifi online (and it consumes battery).<br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Any roadmap and Unified Project for QtEI? ==<br /> <br /> It's there any Roadmap or some active Major project (i mean with an official website, with tutorial, trac, blog, comments, like, ie, SHR-Project) for QtEI to contribute, add a wishlist, bugs, testing, translation, etc etc?<br /> <br /> I see the Karadog+Radek+Franky efforts (very good job indeed!:-)), but i can't find a unified effort to evolve QtEI; it's a pity, because QtEI, IMHO, is the more stable and usable actual distro for our FreeRunner.<br /> <br /> Any Suggestion?--[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 12:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Building native and using qvfb ==<br /> Here is the recipe I used for building natively on Ubuntu and running the Apps on the simulator with a hacked skin.<br /> <br /> At same level as source directory (say ./qtmoko)...<br /> mkdir ./build-native<br /> <br /> create a file setup-native.sh<br /> export QPEDIR=`pwd`/build-native<br /> export QTDIR=`pwd`/build-native<br /> export QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH=`pwd`/qtmoko<br /> export QWS_DISPLAY=QVFb:mmWidth43:mmHeight58:0<br /> <br /> Then execute these commands...<br /> <br /> &gt; . ./setup-native<br /> &gt; cd build-native<br /> &gt; $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/configure<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild image<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild sdk<br /> &gt; edit ../../sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h and remove .../sdk/sdk... on first line and replace with /sdk<br /> <br /> Fonts are not copied so do this...<br /> &gt; cp $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/qtopiacore/qt/lib/fonts/* $QPEDIR/image/lib/fonts<br /> <br /> build your apps as specified on main page but in build-native/myapps<br /> <br /> Then to run you app in the simulator run this script modified to run your app...<br /> <br /> ../../qtopiacore/host/bin/qvfb -skin ./ficgta01.skin/ -zoom 0.75 &amp;<br /> sleep 2<br /> ./qtpedometer -qws sim ./nmea_sample.txt<br /> <br /> You will need to create a directory fictga01.skin in your app directory from this file, which has been modified to add two new buttons which simulate the soft keys, as the simulator does not seem to do this otherwise.<br /> Download and un-tar this file...<br /> [[Media:Ficgta01.skin.tar.gz]]<br /> <br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 20:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Qt_Extended_Improved 2009-09-22T20:43:55Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Building native and using qvfb */</p> <hr /> <div>== Compile program example ==<br /> <br /> When I wanted to compile the example program, I had an error.I did<br /> git clone git://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git to get the sources<br /> and then builded like in the page.<br /> <br /> desktop# mkdir /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cd /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cp -R $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/examples/application .<br /> desktop# mv application example<br /> desktop# cd example<br /> desktop# $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild<br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> In file included from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qglobal.h:58,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qatomic.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qvariant.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/QVariant:1,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps/example/.uic/ui_examplebase.h:13:<br /> /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h:2:66: error: /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/sdk/qtopiacore/qconfig-qpe.h: No such file or directory&lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> In the file qconfig.h there was at the top an inclusion of the file sdk/sdk/.... I removed 1 '''sdk''' and it compiled. Is this a bug ?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == It's there some GPS Application for QtEI ? ==<br /> <br /> Application &quot;mapping demo&quot; it's not working for me. It's a pity not having TangoGPS or Navit also ported to QtEI. It's there any plans to have a solid and good GPS application for this (very good) Distribution?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The &quot;mapping demo&quot; works for me. The problem on my Freerunner was, that the sys-path of gps was changed and so the gps was not turned on. I recompiled the libneogpsplugin.so with the new path after that it works for me.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 22:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> I have a pedometer application using QtMoko and an xgps clone<br /> [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtpedometer pedometer] and [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtopiagps xgps clone]<br /> <br /> == Battery duration Issue: any solution? ==<br /> <br /> I see that with QTEi, the standard duration of Battery with actual kernel (2.6.28/29) it's not more then 36/48h (sometimes also not more then 24h!).<br /> <br /> It's there any plan to have a good battery duration that now, as everyday phone, it become an big issue?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wireless Online Issue ==<br /> <br /> I'm using the Franky Van Liedekerke's last release (release 11).<br /> <br /> When i try to remove the Wireless module from &quot;internet&quot; application, QtEI simply crash (i have to remove the battery to reboot). Another problem is that if i try to stop the wifi service with the GUI, after the phone resume from a suspend, it restart automatically the Wifi online (and it consumes battery).<br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Any roadmap and Unified Project for QtEI? ==<br /> <br /> It's there any Roadmap or some active Major project (i mean with an official website, with tutorial, trac, blog, comments, like, ie, SHR-Project) for QtEI to contribute, add a wishlist, bugs, testing, translation, etc etc?<br /> <br /> I see the Karadog+Radek+Franky efforts (very good job indeed!:-)), but i can't find a unified effort to evolve QtEI; it's a pity, because QtEI, IMHO, is the more stable and usable actual distro for our FreeRunner.<br /> <br /> Any Suggestion?--[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 12:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Building native and using qvfb ==<br /> Here is the recipe I used for building natively on Ubuntu and running the Apps on the simulator with a hacked skin.<br /> <br /> At same level as source directory (say ./qtmoko)...<br /> mkdir ./build-native<br /> <br /> create a file setup-native.sh<br /> export QPEDIR=`pwd`/build-native<br /> export QTDIR=`pwd`/build-native<br /> export QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH=`pwd`/qtmoko<br /> export QWS_DISPLAY=QVFb:mmWidth43:mmHeight58:0<br /> <br /> Then execute these commands...<br /> <br /> &gt; . ./setup-native<br /> &gt; cd build-native<br /> &gt; $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/configure<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild image<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild sdk<br /> &gt; edit ../../sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h and remove .../sdk/sdk... on first line and replace with /sdk<br /> <br /> Fonts are not copied so do this...<br /> &gt; cp $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/qtopiacore/qt/lib/fonts/* $QPEDIR/image/lib/fonts<br /> <br /> build your apps as specified on main page but in build-native/myapps<br /> <br /> Then to run you app in the simulator run this script modified to run your app...<br /> <br /> ../../qtopiacore/host/bin/qvfb -skin ./ficgta01.skin/ -zoom 0.75 &amp;<br /> sleep 2<br /> ./qtpedometer -qws sim ./nmea_sample.txt<br /> <br /> You will need to create a directory fictga01.skin in your app directory from this file, which has been modified to add two new buttons which simulate the soft keys, as the simulator does not seem to do this otherwise.<br /> Download and un-tar this file...<br /> [[Media:Ficgta01.skin.tar.gz]]<br /> <br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 20:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Qt_Extended_Improved 2009-09-22T20:41:24Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Building native and using qvfb */</p> <hr /> <div>== Compile program example ==<br /> <br /> When I wanted to compile the example program, I had an error.I did<br /> git clone git://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git to get the sources<br /> and then builded like in the page.<br /> <br /> desktop# mkdir /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cd /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cp -R $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/examples/application .<br /> desktop# mv application example<br /> desktop# cd example<br /> desktop# $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild<br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> In file included from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qglobal.h:58,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qatomic.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qvariant.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/QVariant:1,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps/example/.uic/ui_examplebase.h:13:<br /> /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h:2:66: error: /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/sdk/qtopiacore/qconfig-qpe.h: No such file or directory&lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> In the file qconfig.h there was at the top an inclusion of the file sdk/sdk/.... I removed 1 '''sdk''' and it compiled. Is this a bug ?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == It's there some GPS Application for QtEI ? ==<br /> <br /> Application &quot;mapping demo&quot; it's not working for me. It's a pity not having TangoGPS or Navit also ported to QtEI. It's there any plans to have a solid and good GPS application for this (very good) Distribution?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The &quot;mapping demo&quot; works for me. The problem on my Freerunner was, that the sys-path of gps was changed and so the gps was not turned on. I recompiled the libneogpsplugin.so with the new path after that it works for me.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 22:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> I have a pedometer application using QtMoko and an xgps clone<br /> [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtpedometer pedometer] and [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtopiagps xgps clone]<br /> <br /> == Battery duration Issue: any solution? ==<br /> <br /> I see that with QTEi, the standard duration of Battery with actual kernel (2.6.28/29) it's not more then 36/48h (sometimes also not more then 24h!).<br /> <br /> It's there any plan to have a good battery duration that now, as everyday phone, it become an big issue?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wireless Online Issue ==<br /> <br /> I'm using the Franky Van Liedekerke's last release (release 11).<br /> <br /> When i try to remove the Wireless module from &quot;internet&quot; application, QtEI simply crash (i have to remove the battery to reboot). Another problem is that if i try to stop the wifi service with the GUI, after the phone resume from a suspend, it restart automatically the Wifi online (and it consumes battery).<br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Any roadmap and Unified Project for QtEI? ==<br /> <br /> It's there any Roadmap or some active Major project (i mean with an official website, with tutorial, trac, blog, comments, like, ie, SHR-Project) for QtEI to contribute, add a wishlist, bugs, testing, translation, etc etc?<br /> <br /> I see the Karadog+Radek+Franky efforts (very good job indeed!:-)), but i can't find a unified effort to evolve QtEI; it's a pity, because QtEI, IMHO, is the more stable and usable actual distro for our FreeRunner.<br /> <br /> Any Suggestion?--[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 12:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Building native and using qvfb ==<br /> Here is the recipe I used for building natively on Ubuntu and running the Apps on the simulator with a hacked skin.<br /> <br /> At same level as source directory...<br /> mkdir ./build-native<br /> <br /> create a file setup-native.sh<br /> export QPEDIR=`pwd`/build-native<br /> export QTDIR=`pwd`/build-native<br /> export QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH=`pwd`/qtmoko<br /> export QWS_DISPLAY=QVFb:mmWidth43:mmHeight58:0<br /> <br /> &gt; . ./setup-native<br /> &gt; cd build-native<br /> &gt; $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/configure<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild image<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild sdk<br /> &gt; edit ../../sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h and remove .../sdk/sdk... on first line and replace with /sdk<br /> <br /> Fonts are not copied so do this...<br /> &gt; cp $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/qtopiacore/qt/lib/fonts/* $QPEDIR/image/lib/fonts<br /> <br /> build your apps as specified on main page but in build-native/myapps<br /> <br /> Then to run you app in the simulator run this script modified to run your app...<br /> <br /> ../../qtopiacore/host/bin/qvfb -skin ficgta01.skin/ -zoom 0.75 &amp;<br /> sleep 2<br /> ./qtpedometer -qws sim ./nmea_sample.txt<br /> &lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> You will need to create a directory fictga01.skin in your app directory from this file, which has been modified to add two new buttons which simulate the soft keys, as the simulator does not seem to do this otherwise.<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/1/1d/Ficgta01.skin.tar.gz] or<br /> [[Media:Ficgta01.skin.tar.gz]]<br /> <br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 20:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/File:Ficgta01.skin.tar.gz 2009-09-22T20:37:44Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: skin touse with qvfb with soft keys</p> <hr /> <div>skin touse with qvfb with soft keys</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Qt_Extended_Improved 2009-09-22T20:35:30Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Building native and using qvfb */</p> <hr /> <div>== Compile program example ==<br /> <br /> When I wanted to compile the example program, I had an error.I did<br /> git clone git://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git to get the sources<br /> and then builded like in the page.<br /> <br /> desktop# mkdir /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cd /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cp -R $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/examples/application .<br /> desktop# mv application example<br /> desktop# cd example<br /> desktop# $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild<br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> In file included from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qglobal.h:58,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qatomic.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qvariant.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/QVariant:1,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps/example/.uic/ui_examplebase.h:13:<br /> /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h:2:66: error: /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/sdk/qtopiacore/qconfig-qpe.h: No such file or directory&lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> In the file qconfig.h there was at the top an inclusion of the file sdk/sdk/.... I removed 1 '''sdk''' and it compiled. Is this a bug ?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == It's there some GPS Application for QtEI ? ==<br /> <br /> Application &quot;mapping demo&quot; it's not working for me. It's a pity not having TangoGPS or Navit also ported to QtEI. It's there any plans to have a solid and good GPS application for this (very good) Distribution?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The &quot;mapping demo&quot; works for me. The problem on my Freerunner was, that the sys-path of gps was changed and so the gps was not turned on. I recompiled the libneogpsplugin.so with the new path after that it works for me.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 22:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> I have a pedometer application using QtMoko and an xgps clone<br /> [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtpedometer pedometer] and [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtopiagps xgps clone]<br /> <br /> == Battery duration Issue: any solution? ==<br /> <br /> I see that with QTEi, the standard duration of Battery with actual kernel (2.6.28/29) it's not more then 36/48h (sometimes also not more then 24h!).<br /> <br /> It's there any plan to have a good battery duration that now, as everyday phone, it become an big issue?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wireless Online Issue ==<br /> <br /> I'm using the Franky Van Liedekerke's last release (release 11).<br /> <br /> When i try to remove the Wireless module from &quot;internet&quot; application, QtEI simply crash (i have to remove the battery to reboot). Another problem is that if i try to stop the wifi service with the GUI, after the phone resume from a suspend, it restart automatically the Wifi online (and it consumes battery).<br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Any roadmap and Unified Project for QtEI? ==<br /> <br /> It's there any Roadmap or some active Major project (i mean with an official website, with tutorial, trac, blog, comments, like, ie, SHR-Project) for QtEI to contribute, add a wishlist, bugs, testing, translation, etc etc?<br /> <br /> I see the Karadog+Radek+Franky efforts (very good job indeed!:-)), but i can't find a unified effort to evolve QtEI; it's a pity, because QtEI, IMHO, is the more stable and usable actual distro for our FreeRunner.<br /> <br /> Any Suggestion?--[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 12:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Building native and using qvfb ==<br /> Here is the recipe I used for building natively on Ubuntu and running the Apps on the simulator with a hacked skin.<br /> <br /> At same level as source directory...<br /> mkdir ./build-native<br /> <br /> create a file setup-native.sh<br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> export QPEDIR=`pwd`/build-native<br /> export QTDIR=`pwd`/build-native<br /> export QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH=`pwd`/qtmoko<br /> export QWS_DISPLAY=QVFb:mmWidth43:mmHeight58:0<br /> <br /> &gt; . ./setup-native<br /> &gt; cd build-native<br /> &gt; $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/configure<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild image<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild sdk<br /> &gt; edit ../../sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h and remove .../sdk/sdk... on first line and replace with /sdk<br /> &lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> Fonts are not copied so do this...<br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> &gt; cp $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/qtopiacore/qt/lib/fonts/* $QPEDIR/image/lib/fonts<br /> &lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> build you apps as specified on main page but in build-native/myapps<br /> <br /> Then to run you app in the simulator run this script modified to run your app...<br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> ../../qtopiacore/host/bin/qvfb -skin ficgta01.skin/ -zoom 0.75 &amp;<br /> sleep 2<br /> ./qtpedometer -qws sim ./nmea_sample.txt<br /> &lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> You will need to create a directory fictga01.skin in your app directory from this file, which has been modified to add two new buttons which simulate the soft keys, as the simulator does not seem to do this otherwise.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 20:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Qt_Extended_Improved 2009-09-22T20:33:32Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Building native and using qvfb */</p> <hr /> <div>== Compile program example ==<br /> <br /> When I wanted to compile the example program, I had an error.I did<br /> git clone git://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git to get the sources<br /> and then builded like in the page.<br /> <br /> desktop# mkdir /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cd /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cp -R $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/examples/application .<br /> desktop# mv application example<br /> desktop# cd example<br /> desktop# $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild<br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> In file included from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qglobal.h:58,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qatomic.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qvariant.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/QVariant:1,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps/example/.uic/ui_examplebase.h:13:<br /> /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h:2:66: error: /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/sdk/qtopiacore/qconfig-qpe.h: No such file or directory&lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> In the file qconfig.h there was at the top an inclusion of the file sdk/sdk/.... I removed 1 '''sdk''' and it compiled. Is this a bug ?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == It's there some GPS Application for QtEI ? ==<br /> <br /> Application &quot;mapping demo&quot; it's not working for me. It's a pity not having TangoGPS or Navit also ported to QtEI. It's there any plans to have a solid and good GPS application for this (very good) Distribution?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The &quot;mapping demo&quot; works for me. The problem on my Freerunner was, that the sys-path of gps was changed and so the gps was not turned on. I recompiled the libneogpsplugin.so with the new path after that it works for me.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 22:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> I have a pedometer application using QtMoko and an xgps clone<br /> [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtpedometer pedometer] and [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtopiagps xgps clone]<br /> <br /> == Battery duration Issue: any solution? ==<br /> <br /> I see that with QTEi, the standard duration of Battery with actual kernel (2.6.28/29) it's not more then 36/48h (sometimes also not more then 24h!).<br /> <br /> It's there any plan to have a good battery duration that now, as everyday phone, it become an big issue?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wireless Online Issue ==<br /> <br /> I'm using the Franky Van Liedekerke's last release (release 11).<br /> <br /> When i try to remove the Wireless module from &quot;internet&quot; application, QtEI simply crash (i have to remove the battery to reboot). Another problem is that if i try to stop the wifi service with the GUI, after the phone resume from a suspend, it restart automatically the Wifi online (and it consumes battery).<br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Any roadmap and Unified Project for QtEI? ==<br /> <br /> It's there any Roadmap or some active Major project (i mean with an official website, with tutorial, trac, blog, comments, like, ie, SHR-Project) for QtEI to contribute, add a wishlist, bugs, testing, translation, etc etc?<br /> <br /> I see the Karadog+Radek+Franky efforts (very good job indeed!:-)), but i can't find a unified effort to evolve QtEI; it's a pity, because QtEI, IMHO, is the more stable and usable actual distro for our FreeRunner.<br /> <br /> Any Suggestion?--[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 12:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Building native and using qvfb ==<br /> Here is the recipe I used for building natively on Ubuntu and running the Apps on the simulator with a hacked skin.<br /> <br /> At same level as source directory...<br /> &gt; mkdir ./build-native<br /> <br /> create a file setup-native.sh<br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> export QPEDIR=`pwd`/build-native<br /> export QTDIR=`pwd`/build-native<br /> export QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH=`pwd`/qtmoko<br /> export QWS_DISPLAY=QVFb:mmWidth43:mmHeight58:0<br /> &lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> &gt; . ./setup-native<br /> &gt; cd build-native<br /> &gt; $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/configure<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild image<br /> &gt; bin/qbuild sdk<br /> &gt; edit ../../sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h and remove .../sdk/sdk... on first line and replace with /sdk<br /> <br /> Fonts are not copied so do this...<br /> &gt; cp $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/qtopiacore/qt/lib/fonts/* $QPEDIR/image/lib/fonts<br /> build you apps as specified on main page but in build-native/myapps<br /> <br /> Then to run you app in the simulator run this script modified to run your app...<br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> ../../qtopiacore/host/bin/qvfb -skin ficgta01.skin/ -zoom 0.75 &amp;<br /> sleep 2<br /> ./qtpedometer -qws sim ./nmea_sample.txt<br /> &lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> You will need to create a directory fictga01.skin in your app directory from this file, which has been modified to add two new buttons which simulate the soft keys, as the simulator does not seem to do this otherwise.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 20:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Qt_Extended_Improved 2009-09-22T20:23:53Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: Building natively</p> <hr /> <div>== Compile program example ==<br /> <br /> When I wanted to compile the example program, I had an error.I did<br /> git clone git://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git to get the sources<br /> and then builded like in the page.<br /> <br /> desktop# mkdir /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cd /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cp -R $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/examples/application .<br /> desktop# mv application example<br /> desktop# cd example<br /> desktop# $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild<br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> In file included from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qglobal.h:58,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qatomic.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qvariant.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/QVariant:1,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps/example/.uic/ui_examplebase.h:13:<br /> /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h:2:66: error: /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/sdk/qtopiacore/qconfig-qpe.h: No such file or directory&lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> In the file qconfig.h there was at the top an inclusion of the file sdk/sdk/.... I removed 1 '''sdk''' and it compiled. Is this a bug ?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == It's there some GPS Application for QtEI ? ==<br /> <br /> Application &quot;mapping demo&quot; it's not working for me. It's a pity not having TangoGPS or Navit also ported to QtEI. It's there any plans to have a solid and good GPS application for this (very good) Distribution?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The &quot;mapping demo&quot; works for me. The problem on my Freerunner was, that the sys-path of gps was changed and so the gps was not turned on. I recompiled the libneogpsplugin.so with the new path after that it works for me.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 22:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> I have a pedometer application using QtMoko and an xgps clone<br /> [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtpedometer pedometer] and [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtopiagps xgps clone]<br /> <br /> == Battery duration Issue: any solution? ==<br /> <br /> I see that with QTEi, the standard duration of Battery with actual kernel (2.6.28/29) it's not more then 36/48h (sometimes also not more then 24h!).<br /> <br /> It's there any plan to have a good battery duration that now, as everyday phone, it become an big issue?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wireless Online Issue ==<br /> <br /> I'm using the Franky Van Liedekerke's last release (release 11).<br /> <br /> When i try to remove the Wireless module from &quot;internet&quot; application, QtEI simply crash (i have to remove the battery to reboot). Another problem is that if i try to stop the wifi service with the GUI, after the phone resume from a suspend, it restart automatically the Wifi online (and it consumes battery).<br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Any roadmap and Unified Project for QtEI? ==<br /> <br /> It's there any Roadmap or some active Major project (i mean with an official website, with tutorial, trac, blog, comments, like, ie, SHR-Project) for QtEI to contribute, add a wishlist, bugs, testing, translation, etc etc?<br /> <br /> I see the Karadog+Radek+Franky efforts (very good job indeed!:-)), but i can't find a unified effort to evolve QtEI; it's a pity, because QtEI, IMHO, is the more stable and usable actual distro for our FreeRunner.<br /> <br /> Any Suggestion?--[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 12:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Building native and using qvfb ==<br /> Here is the recipe I used for building natively on Ubuntu and running the Apps on the simulator with a hacked skin.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 20:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Qt_Extended_Improved 2009-09-20T22:23:53Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* It's there some GPS Application for QtEI ? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Compile program example ==<br /> <br /> When I wanted to compile the example program, I had an error.I did<br /> git clone git://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git to get the sources<br /> and then builded like in the page.<br /> <br /> desktop# mkdir /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cd /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps<br /> desktop# cp -R $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/examples/application .<br /> desktop# mv application example<br /> desktop# cd example<br /> desktop# $QPEDIR/bin/qbuild<br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> In file included from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qglobal.h:58,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qatomic.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qvariant.h:41,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/QVariant:1,<br /> from /opt/QtExtended/build/myapps/example/.uic/ui_examplebase.h:13:<br /> /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/qtopiacore/target/include/QtCore/qconfig.h:2:66: error: /opt/QtExtended/build/sdk/sdk/qtopiacore/qconfig-qpe.h: No such file or directory&lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> In the file qconfig.h there was at the top an inclusion of the file sdk/sdk/.... I removed 1 '''sdk''' and it compiled. Is this a bug ?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == It's there some GPS Application for QtEI ? ==<br /> <br /> Application &quot;mapping demo&quot; it's not working for me. It's a pity not having TangoGPS or Navit also ported to QtEI. It's there any plans to have a solid and good GPS application for this (very good) Distribution?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The &quot;mapping demo&quot; works for me. The problem on my Freerunner was, that the sys-path of gps was changed and so the gps was not turned on. I recompiled the libneogpsplugin.so with the new path after that it works for me.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Wolfmanjm|Wolfmanjm]] 22:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> I have a pedometer application using QtMoko and an xgps clone<br /> [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtpedometer pedometer] and [http://github.com/wolfmanjm/qtopiagps xgps clone]<br /> <br /> == Battery duration Issue: any solution? ==<br /> <br /> I see that with QTEi, the standard duration of Battery with actual kernel (2.6.28/29) it's not more then 36/48h (sometimes also not more then 24h!).<br /> <br /> It's there any plan to have a good battery duration that now, as everyday phone, it become an big issue?<br /> <br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wireless Online Issue ==<br /> <br /> I'm using the Franky Van Liedekerke's last release (release 11).<br /> <br /> When i try to remove the Wireless module from &quot;internet&quot; application, QtEI simply crash (i have to remove the battery to reboot). Another problem is that if i try to stop the wifi service with the GUI, after the phone resume from a suspend, it restart automatically the Wifi online (and it consumes battery).<br /> --[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 11:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Any roadmap and Unified Project for QtEI? ==<br /> <br /> It's there any Roadmap or some active Major project (i mean with an official website, with tutorial, trac, blog, comments, like, ie, SHR-Project) for QtEI to contribute, add a wishlist, bugs, testing, translation, etc etc?<br /> <br /> I see the Karadog+Radek+Franky efforts (very good job indeed!:-)), but i can't find a unified effort to evolve QtEI; it's a pity, because QtEI, IMHO, is the more stable and usable actual distro for our FreeRunner.<br /> <br /> Any Suggestion?--[[User:Apertum|Apertum]] 12:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manuals/Android 2009-03-02T04:16:32Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Getting started */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Languages|Android usage}}<br /> <br /> {|align=right<br /> |__TOC__<br /> |}<br /> [[Image:android.png]]<br /> <br /> = Introduction = <br /> This page is dedicated to the daily usage of Android on the [[Neo 1973]] and [[Neo FreeRunner]] handsets.<br /> <br /> The informations here have been updated for the following release : [http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files Koolu Beta3 Android release]. But should be the same for any not too old release.<br /> <br /> You can find general informations (porting/development and day to day usage) about Android and Neo phones here : [[Android]]<br /> <br /> = Getting started =<br /> <br /> == The power button ==<br /> <br /> * To turn the phone on, press and hold the power button for about 5 seconds<br /> * To wake the phone from sleep, tap the power button twice then once more to unlock the screen<br /> <br /> * To turn the phone off, wake it from sleep then hold the power button for about 4-5 seconds. Choose 'Power off' in the menu that appears then click 'OK'<br /> <br /> == The Aux button ==<br /> The aux button appears to be the back button.<br /> <br /> == Making a call ==<br /> <br /> Once the phone has started you will see a 'Dialer' icon on the desktop, touch it and you will be presented with a dialling keypad. Enter the number you wish to dial and then touch the bar containing the number to call. If you make a mistake entering the number you can touch the backspace arrow to the right of the bar.<br /> <br /> Caveats<br /> * The volume level when in a voice call is very low<br /> <br /> == Using the keyboard ==<br /> <br /> == Sending an SMS ==<br /> <br /> == Copy and pasting ==<br /> <br /> = Subsystems =<br /> <br /> <br /> == Accelerometers ==<br /> Works, can be tested with simple game called [http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/apps/8872 Amazed] which is already installed on current Koolu images.<br /> <br /> == Bluetooth ==<br /> Works, latest kernels need permissions for second rfkill interface in init.rc to turn it on.<br /> <br /> == GPS ==<br /> Works, you can [[#Install new software|install]] [http://www.andnav.org AndNav2] (AndNav2 is already installed on current Koolu images) to test it.<br /> It is currently not possible to disable the GPS from the UI once activated.<br /> <br /> == GPRS ==<br /> Does not work, GSM get's confused when you try to use it<br /> === Network settings ===<br /> <br /> carrier=&quot;O2-UK-PAYG&quot;<br /> mcc=&quot;234&quot;<br /> mnc=&quot;10&quot;<br /> apn=&quot;payandgo.o2.co.uk&quot;<br /> user=&quot;payandgo&quot;<br /> server=&quot;193.113.200.195&quot;<br /> password=&quot;password&quot;<br /> mmsc=&quot;http://mmsc.mms.02.co.uk:8002&quot;<br /> type=&quot;Normal&quot;<br /> proxy=&quot;193.113.200.195&quot;<br /> port=&quot;9201&quot;<br /> mmsproxy=&quot;193.113.200.195&quot;<br /> mmsport=&quot;9201&quot;<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Wifi ==<br /> <br /> Although wifi works, there are two problems; one, you can't bring up a keyboard to enter your encryption key and two, Android does not obtain the DNS settings properly from the router. Both can be worked around.<br /> <br /> === Solution one ===<br /> <br /> This involves [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_usage#Copy_and_pasting copying and pasting] the network key into the key field. These instructions use the aKeyUI app but you could do it with the standard Note pad app.<br /> <br /> Install [http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/apps/4642 aKeyUI] this app allows you to enter text and copy it to a clipboard, which you can then paste into any test field:<br /> <br /> Change directory to where you downloaded the app then install:<br /> <br /> # adb install aKeyUI.apk<br /> <br /> Touch the Application tab to display your installed apps, aKeyUI should be one of them. Load it up, enter the key for your wireless network and click copy.<br /> <br /> Now go to 'Settings' &gt; 'Wireless controls' &gt; 'Wi-Fi settings' and you should see your wireless network listed there. Touch it and when it asks you for the key, long-touch the key field and select paste.<br /> <br /> Caveats<br /> * The keyboard seems to have a limited number of characters, making this solution useless if your network key contains one of the missing ones.<br /> <br /> Now you are connected but you need the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_usage#DNS_Fix DNS fix.]<br /> <br /> === Solution two ===<br /> <br /> Boot your FreeRunner while connected to USB then run these commands:<br /> <br /> # ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0<br /> # adb kill-server<br /> # ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 adb devices<br /> <br /> # adb shell mount -o remount,rw /dev/root /<br /> # adb pull /etc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf wpa_supplicant.conf<br /> <br /> You will now have the wpa_supplicant.conf file in your working directory, change it's ownership so you can edit it:<br /> <br /> # chown YOUR_USER:YOUR_GROUP wpa_supplicant.conf <br /> <br /> Now you can edit it to contain your wireless details, then push it back to the FreeRunner. For example add an uncommented section like this:<br /> <br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;example&quot;<br /> proto=WPA<br /> key_mgmt=WPA-PSK<br /> pairwise=CCMP TKIP<br /> group=CCMP TKIP WEP104 WEP40<br /> psk=06b4be19da289f475aa46a33cb793029d4ab3db7a23ee92382eb0106c72ac7bb<br /> priority=2<br /> }<br /> <br /> Save your changes, change the owner back to root and push it back to the FreeRunner:<br /> <br /> # chown root:root wpa_supplicant.conf<br /> # adb push wpa_supplicant.conf /etc/wifi<br /> <br /> Reboot the FreeRunner:<br /> <br /> # adb shell sync<br /> # adb shell reboot<br /> <br /> You now just need the DNS fix<br /> <br /> === DNS Fix ===<br /> <br /> Connect to Android using adb and pull your init.rc:<br /> <br /> # ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0<br /> # adb kill-server<br /> # ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 adb devices<br /> # adb pull /init.rc init.rc<br /> <br /> # chown YOUR_USER:YOUR_GROUP init.rc<br /> <br /> Now find this part of your your init.rc, and add new lines containing the DNS value to the [https://www.opendns.com/ OpenDNS] servers:<br /> <br /> # Setup the DNS server for USB<br /> #setprop net.dns1 192.168.0.200<br /> setprop net.dns1 208.67.222.222<br /> setprop net.dns2 208.67.220.220<br /> <br /> Change the ownership back to root and push it back to your FreeRunner:<br /> <br /> # chown root:root init.rc<br /> # adb shell mount -o remount,rw /dev/root /<br /> # adb push init.rc /init.rc<br /> # adb shell sync<br /> # adb shell reboot<br /> <br /> = Data management =<br /> <br /> == Contacts ==<br /> <br /> === Importing ===<br /> ==== From Vcard ====<br /> # [[#Install new software|install]] [http://www.dusystems.com/importContacts.html &quot;Android Contacts Import&quot;] (this applications is also available from [[#AndAppStore|AndAppStore]])<br /> # export your contact(s) as a vcard file from your contact application<br /> # [[#Copy files|copy]] the file to your phone /sdcard/ directory<br /> # on your phone run the ImportContacts application, choose the file you copied and select import. Wait until the phone says x vcards imported<br /> <br /> That's it if you don't see your contacts, make sure you selected &quot;view all contacts&quot; in the contacts applications options (contacts &gt; powerbutton &gt; Display group &gt; All contacts)<br /> <br /> ==== From SIM ====<br /> Works, Contacts-&gt;menu-&gt;Settings-&gt;SIM contacts importer.<br /> <br /> === Synchronization ===<br /> <br /> == Calendar ==<br /> <br /> === Alarm ===<br /> Works.<br /> <br /> === Importing ===<br /> <br /> === Synchronization ===<br /> <br /> == Files ==<br /> <br /> === Copying ===<br /> You can copy files to your phone using either <br /> * [[#USB mass storage|USB mass storage]]<br /> <br /> or, from the command line using<br /> <br /> * the [[Android debug bridge]] to copy files to your phone :<br /> ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 ./adb push file.txt /sdcard/<br /> <br /> == Media ==<br /> Can play OGG audio files and view pictures with the default applications<br /> <br /> == SMS ==<br /> <br /> = Others =<br /> <br /> == Software keyboard ==<br /> Works, can be brought up with short press to power button.<br /> <br /> == Suspend ==<br /> Waking up your phone might be a little bit tricky at the moment, there are several recipe/hints submitted by different people :<br /> * 1-2s press of power button goes to sleep, wake up with long power button press, don't use screen timeouts, disable it in Settings-&gt;Sound &amp; display-&gt;Screen timeout-&gt;Never timeout.<br /> * Michael Trimarchi's images allow resume from suspend after two short presses. However, sometimes it takes a few tries for the phone to wake up.<br /> * For me resume works best if i long press power until the main screen appears and the short power press that unlocks screen.<br /> * During suspend the phone seems to wake up make an audible click and go back to sleep.<br /> <br /> == USB networking ==<br /> The general [[USB Networking]] guide should help you talk to your FreeRunner using IP over USB. However, please note that Android doesn't come with an ssh server installed by default. In order to gain shell access without an additional ssh server you can follow the instructions on the [[Android debug bridge]] page.<br /> <br /> == USB Host mode ==<br /> {{todo|If you know how to change the USB mode with Android, please explain it here.}}<br /> <br /> == USB keyboard ==<br /> I bought a mini USB keyboard that for my Neo, if someone has simple directions to use it with android, please explain it here.<br /> <br /> == USB mass storage ==<br /> This setting is named &quot;Enable USB mass storage&quot;. If you don't find it on Settings -&gt; SD card &amp; phone storage, you have to unhide it with [http://www.4shared.com/account/file/76203324/508fa871/Anycut.html Anycut]. Install it then make a new shortcut Activity -&gt; SD Card. Use this new shortcut to activate the option. This is not persistant after a reboot. See also [http://rivviepop.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/mount-your-g1-android-sd-card-automatically-rc29-rc30/]<br /> <br /> {{todo|This doesn't seem to work with the Neo FreeRunner and current Android images.}}<br /> <br /> = Software installation and updates =<br /> For initial Android flashing, take a look at: [[Android on Freerunner]]<br /> <br /> == Install new software ==<br /> === Manual install ===<br /> Applications are packaged in .apk packages, to install a package (downloaded on your computer) do <br /> <br /> ./adb install app.apk<br /> <br /> After making sure you can talk to your phone using the [[Android debug bridge]]<br /> <br /> === Package managers ===<br /> ==== Android Market Place ====<br /> Currently it is not possible to use the Android Market Place with the Neo Freerunner.<br /> <br /> ==== AndAppStore ====<br /> AndAppStore is an alternate source for Android software and works on the Neo Freerunner. It is installed by default in current Koolu images but you can [[#Manual install|install manually]] their [http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/apps/7661 client].<br /> <br /> == Update software (without reflashing) ==<br /> <br /> = Troubleshooting =<br /> <br /> == Android Debug Bridge ==<br /> <br /> To assist in debugging and to gain shell access to the phone with Android, you can use the instructions found here: [[Android debug bridge]]<br /> <br /> = Links =</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem 2008-09-01T22:28:16Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Bluetooth headset with system audio */</p> <hr /> <div>In the center of the [[Neo1973]] '''audio subsystem''' is the [[WM8753]] (the &quot;Wolfson Codec&quot;), which implements record (ADCs), playback (DACs), and signal mixing. On the stereo output is the [[LM4857]] amplifier, which drives the stereo speakers, the mono earpiece and the headphones. Sound from and to [[GSM]] is received from and sent to the GSM modem via analog connections. There's a digital mono interface for sound from and to the [[Bluetooth]] chip.<br /> <br /> === ALSA Channels ===<br /> [[Image:WM8753 ALSA Mapping.png]]<br /> <br /> === Phase0 Quick Start ===<br /> <br /> In my experience this works but I have to fiddle with the connection a bit before I get stereo output. The audio also comes out both the speaker and headphones.<br /> <br /> alsactl -f /etc/stereoout.state restore<br /> madplay myfavoritesong.mp3<br /> <br /> Another simple test (assuming you have [[USB_Networking|USB Networking]] configured) is to listen to a radio stream:<br /> <br /> wget -O - http://radioparadise.steadyhost.com:8050 | madplay -<br /> <br /> If for some reason you're missing stereoout.state, try getting a similar copy (a couple of volume levels are different is all)<br /> <br /> wget http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> === Voice Calls ===<br /> <br /> ==== using phone-internal microphone and speaker ====<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM handset.png]]<br /> <br /> This is the default case.<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: built in microphone attached to wolfson MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC2/MIC2N to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to EP+/EP-<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Handset<br /> Amp Mode is Call Speaker<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** Mic2 Volume<br /> ** ALC Micer Mic2<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; Speaker<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This should be supported by ASoC 0.13rc3 (-moko7 kernel) on.<br /> <br /> ASoC 0.13.3 should have same functionality but has renamed the soundcard to neo1973.<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using analog (4pin 2.5mm) headset ====<br /> <br /> This is also a quite common case, since we ship the headset with the<br /> phone<br /> <br /> Headset Detection is done via GPIO on S3C2410<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: headset mic vial HS_MIC attached to wolfson MIC1<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC1 to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Headset<br /> Amp Mode is Headphones<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC1<br /> ** Mic Selection Mux [Mic 1]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Mic1<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * Audio path GSM -&gt; Headphones<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Supported in ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmheadset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using Bluetooth headset with GSM ====<br /> <br /> NOTE none of this works with GTA02. Neo mode has disappeared, and none of the state files are GTA02 compatible.<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM Bluetooth.png]]<br /> <br /> Headset detection via software<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: from bluetooth via PCM interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson routes analog signal to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** wolfson: ADC<br /> ** wolfson: routes digital signal to PCM<br /> ** arrives on bluetooth chip via PCM<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Bluetooth<br /> Amp Mode is Off<br /> <br /> * audio path BT -&gt; GSM<br /> ** Vx DAC<br /> ** Mono Voice Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Voice Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; BT<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Rx<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Capture Mixer Mux [PGA]<br /> ** Capture Left Mixer [Analogue Mix Left]<br /> ** Left ADC<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Should be support by ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> Example of how to setup PCM-&gt;BT link.<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/bluetooth-pcm/bluetooth_pcm.c<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmbluetooth.state<br /> <br /> NOTE this will not work with GTA02, as the control numbers have changed<br /> Here [http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/6/64/Gsmbluetooth_gta02.state.txt] is a modified version that is GTA02 compatible, <br /> But lacks the Neo Mode settings which disappeared on GTA02, and does not seem to work.<br /> <br /> === Bluetooth headset with system audio ===<br /> <br /> For example, using a voip app on the phone with a bt voice headset. This would also be a good way to work on the bluetooth driver without requiring a working GSM and placing a lot of calls.<br /> <br /> See ticket 583 for a state file that should route system audio *out* to the headset. The codec does not allow for duplex system audio connected to a headset, so audio in is still using the mic.<br /> <br /> NOTE the state file specified does not work for GTA02, and even when modified to be GTA02 compatible still does not route system sound to a BT headset. Modified state file for GTA02 is here <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/3/3d/Btcpu_gta02.state.txt]<br /> <br /> === Multimedia ===<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to speakers ====<br /> <br /> This is an important mode since it is also required for ringtone<br /> playback<br /> <br /> * speaker path <br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** LM4857: route to LLS+-/RLS+-<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> This should also work on ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to headphone ====<br /> <br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback via A2DP ====<br /> <br /> One way to do this is to use a pulse plugin for bluetooth audio. Pulse would be routed either to the plugin or the default route to the codec. The plugin would watch for headset connect/disconnect events generated by a bluez audio daemon to keep the list of available output devices current.<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> There is early work on the bluez daemon to handle this. It has been combined with an alsa plugin in the bluez tree but the alsa plugin probably will not be sufficient for neo.<br /> <br /> ==== voice recording ==== <br /> <br /> This is mainly used to record notes<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** can be from built-in mic<br /> ** or from headset<br /> ** or bluetooth headset<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp]<br /> <br /> [http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state]<br /> <br /> === Call recording ===<br /> <br /> This is a nice wishlist item. The user should be able to receive the<br /> full-duplex audio from the wolfson codec, and record it using the<br /> S3C2410 IIS. <br /> <br /> ==== recording ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> ==== playback ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> == Userspace Sound Control Daemon ==<br /> <br /> The userspace sound control deamon might be a separate process or (more likely) part of some larger general hardware management daemon.<br /> <br /> <br /> It will provide the following features:<br /> <br /> === audio playback ===<br /> <br /> In order to provide the desired functionality, the daemon first needs to be capable of doing audio playback.<br /> <br /> * supported formats<br /> ** mp3 (libmad)<br /> ** ogg/vorbis (libtremor)<br /> ** mod (mikmod)<br /> ** sid (sidplay)<br /> * supported functionality<br /> ** start and stop playback<br /> ** interrupt previous sound to play new sound<br /> ** enqueue new sound at end of previous sound<br /> ** smooth fade-in/fade-out<br /> <br /> === audio event management ===<br /> * manage a set of events (basically just a name for each event)<br /> * manage a set of audio themes<br /> ** each theme contains list of event-&gt;audio_file_name mappings<br /> ** themes stored/managed via gconf<br /> * manage event sources<br /> ** built-in event sources, e.g. touchscreen/button press<br /> ** external event sources (e.g. gsmd, dbus, ...)<br /> <br /> === audio scenario management ===<br /> * e.g. dialer or even gsmd can request audio subsystem to switch to voicecall mode<br /> * this mainly affects codec/amplifier analog audio routing<br /> * integrated with bluetooth in case of BT headset or A2DP use<br /> * How is this management performed currently?<br /> <br /> == Important issues/pitfalls ==<br /> <br /> === Ringtone while headset playback ===<br /> <br /> If the user is listening to music on the headset, do we want to mix the<br /> ring tones only into the headset audio, or actually interrupt and play it<br /> on the speaker?<br /> <br /> Can be an option configurable by the user.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Neo1973 Hardware]]<br /> [[Category:Audio]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/File:Btcpu_gta02.state.txt 2008-09-01T22:27:21Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: The equivalent file modified for GTA02</p> <hr /> <div>The equivalent file modified for GTA02</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem 2008-09-01T22:26:02Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* asound.state */</p> <hr /> <div>In the center of the [[Neo1973]] '''audio subsystem''' is the [[WM8753]] (the &quot;Wolfson Codec&quot;), which implements record (ADCs), playback (DACs), and signal mixing. On the stereo output is the [[LM4857]] amplifier, which drives the stereo speakers, the mono earpiece and the headphones. Sound from and to [[GSM]] is received from and sent to the GSM modem via analog connections. There's a digital mono interface for sound from and to the [[Bluetooth]] chip.<br /> <br /> === ALSA Channels ===<br /> [[Image:WM8753 ALSA Mapping.png]]<br /> <br /> === Phase0 Quick Start ===<br /> <br /> In my experience this works but I have to fiddle with the connection a bit before I get stereo output. The audio also comes out both the speaker and headphones.<br /> <br /> alsactl -f /etc/stereoout.state restore<br /> madplay myfavoritesong.mp3<br /> <br /> Another simple test (assuming you have [[USB_Networking|USB Networking]] configured) is to listen to a radio stream:<br /> <br /> wget -O - http://radioparadise.steadyhost.com:8050 | madplay -<br /> <br /> If for some reason you're missing stereoout.state, try getting a similar copy (a couple of volume levels are different is all)<br /> <br /> wget http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> === Voice Calls ===<br /> <br /> ==== using phone-internal microphone and speaker ====<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM handset.png]]<br /> <br /> This is the default case.<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: built in microphone attached to wolfson MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC2/MIC2N to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to EP+/EP-<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Handset<br /> Amp Mode is Call Speaker<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** Mic2 Volume<br /> ** ALC Micer Mic2<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; Speaker<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This should be supported by ASoC 0.13rc3 (-moko7 kernel) on.<br /> <br /> ASoC 0.13.3 should have same functionality but has renamed the soundcard to neo1973.<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using analog (4pin 2.5mm) headset ====<br /> <br /> This is also a quite common case, since we ship the headset with the<br /> phone<br /> <br /> Headset Detection is done via GPIO on S3C2410<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: headset mic vial HS_MIC attached to wolfson MIC1<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC1 to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Headset<br /> Amp Mode is Headphones<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC1<br /> ** Mic Selection Mux [Mic 1]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Mic1<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * Audio path GSM -&gt; Headphones<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Supported in ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmheadset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using Bluetooth headset with GSM ====<br /> <br /> NOTE none of this works with GTA02. Neo mode has disappeared, and none of the state files are GTA02 compatible.<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM Bluetooth.png]]<br /> <br /> Headset detection via software<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: from bluetooth via PCM interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson routes analog signal to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** wolfson: ADC<br /> ** wolfson: routes digital signal to PCM<br /> ** arrives on bluetooth chip via PCM<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Bluetooth<br /> Amp Mode is Off<br /> <br /> * audio path BT -&gt; GSM<br /> ** Vx DAC<br /> ** Mono Voice Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Voice Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; BT<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Rx<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Capture Mixer Mux [PGA]<br /> ** Capture Left Mixer [Analogue Mix Left]<br /> ** Left ADC<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Should be support by ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> Example of how to setup PCM-&gt;BT link.<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/bluetooth-pcm/bluetooth_pcm.c<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmbluetooth.state<br /> <br /> NOTE this will not work with GTA02, as the control numbers have changed<br /> Here [http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/6/64/Gsmbluetooth_gta02.state.txt] is a modified version that is GTA02 compatible, <br /> But lacks the Neo Mode settings which disappeared on GTA02, and does not seem to work.<br /> <br /> === Bluetooth headset with system audio ===<br /> <br /> For example, using a voip app on the phone with a bt voice headset. This would also be a good way to work on the bluetooth driver without requiring a working GSM and placing a lot of calls.<br /> <br /> See ticket 583 for a state file that should route system audio *out* to the headset. The codec does not allow for duplex system audio connected to a headset, so audio in is still using the mic.<br /> <br /> NOTE the state file specified does not work for GTA02, and even when modified to be GTA02 compatible still does not route system sound to a BT headset.<br /> <br /> === Multimedia ===<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to speakers ====<br /> <br /> This is an important mode since it is also required for ringtone<br /> playback<br /> <br /> * speaker path <br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** LM4857: route to LLS+-/RLS+-<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> This should also work on ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to headphone ====<br /> <br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback via A2DP ====<br /> <br /> One way to do this is to use a pulse plugin for bluetooth audio. Pulse would be routed either to the plugin or the default route to the codec. The plugin would watch for headset connect/disconnect events generated by a bluez audio daemon to keep the list of available output devices current.<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> There is early work on the bluez daemon to handle this. It has been combined with an alsa plugin in the bluez tree but the alsa plugin probably will not be sufficient for neo.<br /> <br /> ==== voice recording ==== <br /> <br /> This is mainly used to record notes<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** can be from built-in mic<br /> ** or from headset<br /> ** or bluetooth headset<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp]<br /> <br /> [http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state]<br /> <br /> === Call recording ===<br /> <br /> This is a nice wishlist item. The user should be able to receive the<br /> full-duplex audio from the wolfson codec, and record it using the<br /> S3C2410 IIS. <br /> <br /> ==== recording ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> ==== playback ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> == Userspace Sound Control Daemon ==<br /> <br /> The userspace sound control deamon might be a separate process or (more likely) part of some larger general hardware management daemon.<br /> <br /> <br /> It will provide the following features:<br /> <br /> === audio playback ===<br /> <br /> In order to provide the desired functionality, the daemon first needs to be capable of doing audio playback.<br /> <br /> * supported formats<br /> ** mp3 (libmad)<br /> ** ogg/vorbis (libtremor)<br /> ** mod (mikmod)<br /> ** sid (sidplay)<br /> * supported functionality<br /> ** start and stop playback<br /> ** interrupt previous sound to play new sound<br /> ** enqueue new sound at end of previous sound<br /> ** smooth fade-in/fade-out<br /> <br /> === audio event management ===<br /> * manage a set of events (basically just a name for each event)<br /> * manage a set of audio themes<br /> ** each theme contains list of event-&gt;audio_file_name mappings<br /> ** themes stored/managed via gconf<br /> * manage event sources<br /> ** built-in event sources, e.g. touchscreen/button press<br /> ** external event sources (e.g. gsmd, dbus, ...)<br /> <br /> === audio scenario management ===<br /> * e.g. dialer or even gsmd can request audio subsystem to switch to voicecall mode<br /> * this mainly affects codec/amplifier analog audio routing<br /> * integrated with bluetooth in case of BT headset or A2DP use<br /> * How is this management performed currently?<br /> <br /> == Important issues/pitfalls ==<br /> <br /> === Ringtone while headset playback ===<br /> <br /> If the user is listening to music on the headset, do we want to mix the<br /> ring tones only into the headset audio, or actually interrupt and play it<br /> on the speaker?<br /> <br /> Can be an option configurable by the user.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Neo1973 Hardware]]<br /> [[Category:Audio]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem 2008-09-01T22:24:24Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* asound.state */</p> <hr /> <div>In the center of the [[Neo1973]] '''audio subsystem''' is the [[WM8753]] (the &quot;Wolfson Codec&quot;), which implements record (ADCs), playback (DACs), and signal mixing. On the stereo output is the [[LM4857]] amplifier, which drives the stereo speakers, the mono earpiece and the headphones. Sound from and to [[GSM]] is received from and sent to the GSM modem via analog connections. There's a digital mono interface for sound from and to the [[Bluetooth]] chip.<br /> <br /> === ALSA Channels ===<br /> [[Image:WM8753 ALSA Mapping.png]]<br /> <br /> === Phase0 Quick Start ===<br /> <br /> In my experience this works but I have to fiddle with the connection a bit before I get stereo output. The audio also comes out both the speaker and headphones.<br /> <br /> alsactl -f /etc/stereoout.state restore<br /> madplay myfavoritesong.mp3<br /> <br /> Another simple test (assuming you have [[USB_Networking|USB Networking]] configured) is to listen to a radio stream:<br /> <br /> wget -O - http://radioparadise.steadyhost.com:8050 | madplay -<br /> <br /> If for some reason you're missing stereoout.state, try getting a similar copy (a couple of volume levels are different is all)<br /> <br /> wget http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> === Voice Calls ===<br /> <br /> ==== using phone-internal microphone and speaker ====<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM handset.png]]<br /> <br /> This is the default case.<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: built in microphone attached to wolfson MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC2/MIC2N to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to EP+/EP-<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Handset<br /> Amp Mode is Call Speaker<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** Mic2 Volume<br /> ** ALC Micer Mic2<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; Speaker<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This should be supported by ASoC 0.13rc3 (-moko7 kernel) on.<br /> <br /> ASoC 0.13.3 should have same functionality but has renamed the soundcard to neo1973.<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using analog (4pin 2.5mm) headset ====<br /> <br /> This is also a quite common case, since we ship the headset with the<br /> phone<br /> <br /> Headset Detection is done via GPIO on S3C2410<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: headset mic vial HS_MIC attached to wolfson MIC1<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC1 to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Headset<br /> Amp Mode is Headphones<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC1<br /> ** Mic Selection Mux [Mic 1]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Mic1<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * Audio path GSM -&gt; Headphones<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Supported in ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmheadset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using Bluetooth headset with GSM ====<br /> <br /> NOTE none of this works with GTA02. Neo mode has disappeared, and none of the state files are GTA02 compatible.<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM Bluetooth.png]]<br /> <br /> Headset detection via software<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: from bluetooth via PCM interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson routes analog signal to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** wolfson: ADC<br /> ** wolfson: routes digital signal to PCM<br /> ** arrives on bluetooth chip via PCM<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Bluetooth<br /> Amp Mode is Off<br /> <br /> * audio path BT -&gt; GSM<br /> ** Vx DAC<br /> ** Mono Voice Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Voice Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; BT<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Rx<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Capture Mixer Mux [PGA]<br /> ** Capture Left Mixer [Analogue Mix Left]<br /> ** Left ADC<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Should be support by ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> Example of how to setup PCM-&gt;BT link.<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/bluetooth-pcm/bluetooth_pcm.c<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmbluetooth.state<br /> <br /> NOTE this will not work with GTA02, as the control numbers have changed<br /> Here [[http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/6/64/Gsmbluetooth_gta02.state.txt]] is a modified version that is GTA02 compatible, <br /> But lacks the new mode settings which disappeared on GTA02, and does not seem to work.<br /> <br /> === Bluetooth headset with system audio ===<br /> <br /> For example, using a voip app on the phone with a bt voice headset. This would also be a good way to work on the bluetooth driver without requiring a working GSM and placing a lot of calls.<br /> <br /> See ticket 583 for a state file that should route system audio *out* to the headset. The codec does not allow for duplex system audio connected to a headset, so audio in is still using the mic.<br /> <br /> NOTE the state file specified does not work for GTA02, and even when modified to be GTA02 compatible still does not route system sound to a BT headset.<br /> <br /> === Multimedia ===<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to speakers ====<br /> <br /> This is an important mode since it is also required for ringtone<br /> playback<br /> <br /> * speaker path <br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** LM4857: route to LLS+-/RLS+-<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> This should also work on ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to headphone ====<br /> <br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback via A2DP ====<br /> <br /> One way to do this is to use a pulse plugin for bluetooth audio. Pulse would be routed either to the plugin or the default route to the codec. The plugin would watch for headset connect/disconnect events generated by a bluez audio daemon to keep the list of available output devices current.<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> There is early work on the bluez daemon to handle this. It has been combined with an alsa plugin in the bluez tree but the alsa plugin probably will not be sufficient for neo.<br /> <br /> ==== voice recording ==== <br /> <br /> This is mainly used to record notes<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** can be from built-in mic<br /> ** or from headset<br /> ** or bluetooth headset<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp]<br /> <br /> [http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state]<br /> <br /> === Call recording ===<br /> <br /> This is a nice wishlist item. The user should be able to receive the<br /> full-duplex audio from the wolfson codec, and record it using the<br /> S3C2410 IIS. <br /> <br /> ==== recording ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> ==== playback ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> == Userspace Sound Control Daemon ==<br /> <br /> The userspace sound control deamon might be a separate process or (more likely) part of some larger general hardware management daemon.<br /> <br /> <br /> It will provide the following features:<br /> <br /> === audio playback ===<br /> <br /> In order to provide the desired functionality, the daemon first needs to be capable of doing audio playback.<br /> <br /> * supported formats<br /> ** mp3 (libmad)<br /> ** ogg/vorbis (libtremor)<br /> ** mod (mikmod)<br /> ** sid (sidplay)<br /> * supported functionality<br /> ** start and stop playback<br /> ** interrupt previous sound to play new sound<br /> ** enqueue new sound at end of previous sound<br /> ** smooth fade-in/fade-out<br /> <br /> === audio event management ===<br /> * manage a set of events (basically just a name for each event)<br /> * manage a set of audio themes<br /> ** each theme contains list of event-&gt;audio_file_name mappings<br /> ** themes stored/managed via gconf<br /> * manage event sources<br /> ** built-in event sources, e.g. touchscreen/button press<br /> ** external event sources (e.g. gsmd, dbus, ...)<br /> <br /> === audio scenario management ===<br /> * e.g. dialer or even gsmd can request audio subsystem to switch to voicecall mode<br /> * this mainly affects codec/amplifier analog audio routing<br /> * integrated with bluetooth in case of BT headset or A2DP use<br /> * How is this management performed currently?<br /> <br /> == Important issues/pitfalls ==<br /> <br /> === Ringtone while headset playback ===<br /> <br /> If the user is listening to music on the headset, do we want to mix the<br /> ring tones only into the headset audio, or actually interrupt and play it<br /> on the speaker?<br /> <br /> Can be an option configurable by the user.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Neo1973 Hardware]]<br /> [[Category:Audio]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/File:Gsmbluetooth_gta02.state.txt 2008-09-01T22:22:22Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: A modified state file comaptible with GTA02</p> <hr /> <div>A modified state file comaptible with GTA02</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem 2008-09-01T22:18:33Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Bluetooth headset with system audio */</p> <hr /> <div>In the center of the [[Neo1973]] '''audio subsystem''' is the [[WM8753]] (the &quot;Wolfson Codec&quot;), which implements record (ADCs), playback (DACs), and signal mixing. On the stereo output is the [[LM4857]] amplifier, which drives the stereo speakers, the mono earpiece and the headphones. Sound from and to [[GSM]] is received from and sent to the GSM modem via analog connections. There's a digital mono interface for sound from and to the [[Bluetooth]] chip.<br /> <br /> === ALSA Channels ===<br /> [[Image:WM8753 ALSA Mapping.png]]<br /> <br /> === Phase0 Quick Start ===<br /> <br /> In my experience this works but I have to fiddle with the connection a bit before I get stereo output. The audio also comes out both the speaker and headphones.<br /> <br /> alsactl -f /etc/stereoout.state restore<br /> madplay myfavoritesong.mp3<br /> <br /> Another simple test (assuming you have [[USB_Networking|USB Networking]] configured) is to listen to a radio stream:<br /> <br /> wget -O - http://radioparadise.steadyhost.com:8050 | madplay -<br /> <br /> If for some reason you're missing stereoout.state, try getting a similar copy (a couple of volume levels are different is all)<br /> <br /> wget http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> === Voice Calls ===<br /> <br /> ==== using phone-internal microphone and speaker ====<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM handset.png]]<br /> <br /> This is the default case.<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: built in microphone attached to wolfson MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC2/MIC2N to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to EP+/EP-<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Handset<br /> Amp Mode is Call Speaker<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** Mic2 Volume<br /> ** ALC Micer Mic2<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; Speaker<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This should be supported by ASoC 0.13rc3 (-moko7 kernel) on.<br /> <br /> ASoC 0.13.3 should have same functionality but has renamed the soundcard to neo1973.<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using analog (4pin 2.5mm) headset ====<br /> <br /> This is also a quite common case, since we ship the headset with the<br /> phone<br /> <br /> Headset Detection is done via GPIO on S3C2410<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: headset mic vial HS_MIC attached to wolfson MIC1<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC1 to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Headset<br /> Amp Mode is Headphones<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC1<br /> ** Mic Selection Mux [Mic 1]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Mic1<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * Audio path GSM -&gt; Headphones<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Supported in ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmheadset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using Bluetooth headset with GSM ====<br /> <br /> NOTE none of this works with GTA02. Neo mode has disappeared, and none of the state files are GTA02 compatible.<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM Bluetooth.png]]<br /> <br /> Headset detection via software<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: from bluetooth via PCM interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson routes analog signal to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** wolfson: ADC<br /> ** wolfson: routes digital signal to PCM<br /> ** arrives on bluetooth chip via PCM<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Bluetooth<br /> Amp Mode is Off<br /> <br /> * audio path BT -&gt; GSM<br /> ** Vx DAC<br /> ** Mono Voice Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Voice Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; BT<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Rx<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Capture Mixer Mux [PGA]<br /> ** Capture Left Mixer [Analogue Mix Left]<br /> ** Left ADC<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Should be support by ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> Example of how to setup PCM-&gt;BT link.<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/bluetooth-pcm/bluetooth_pcm.c<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmbluetooth.state<br /> NOTE this will not work with GTA02, as the control numbers have changed<br /> <br /> === Bluetooth headset with system audio ===<br /> <br /> For example, using a voip app on the phone with a bt voice headset. This would also be a good way to work on the bluetooth driver without requiring a working GSM and placing a lot of calls.<br /> <br /> See ticket 583 for a state file that should route system audio *out* to the headset. The codec does not allow for duplex system audio connected to a headset, so audio in is still using the mic.<br /> <br /> NOTE the state file specified does not work for GTA02, and even when modified to be GTA02 compatible still does not route system sound to a BT headset.<br /> <br /> === Multimedia ===<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to speakers ====<br /> <br /> This is an important mode since it is also required for ringtone<br /> playback<br /> <br /> * speaker path <br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** LM4857: route to LLS+-/RLS+-<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> This should also work on ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to headphone ====<br /> <br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback via A2DP ====<br /> <br /> One way to do this is to use a pulse plugin for bluetooth audio. Pulse would be routed either to the plugin or the default route to the codec. The plugin would watch for headset connect/disconnect events generated by a bluez audio daemon to keep the list of available output devices current.<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> There is early work on the bluez daemon to handle this. It has been combined with an alsa plugin in the bluez tree but the alsa plugin probably will not be sufficient for neo.<br /> <br /> ==== voice recording ==== <br /> <br /> This is mainly used to record notes<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** can be from built-in mic<br /> ** or from headset<br /> ** or bluetooth headset<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp]<br /> <br /> [http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state]<br /> <br /> === Call recording ===<br /> <br /> This is a nice wishlist item. The user should be able to receive the<br /> full-duplex audio from the wolfson codec, and record it using the<br /> S3C2410 IIS. <br /> <br /> ==== recording ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> ==== playback ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> == Userspace Sound Control Daemon ==<br /> <br /> The userspace sound control deamon might be a separate process or (more likely) part of some larger general hardware management daemon.<br /> <br /> <br /> It will provide the following features:<br /> <br /> === audio playback ===<br /> <br /> In order to provide the desired functionality, the daemon first needs to be capable of doing audio playback.<br /> <br /> * supported formats<br /> ** mp3 (libmad)<br /> ** ogg/vorbis (libtremor)<br /> ** mod (mikmod)<br /> ** sid (sidplay)<br /> * supported functionality<br /> ** start and stop playback<br /> ** interrupt previous sound to play new sound<br /> ** enqueue new sound at end of previous sound<br /> ** smooth fade-in/fade-out<br /> <br /> === audio event management ===<br /> * manage a set of events (basically just a name for each event)<br /> * manage a set of audio themes<br /> ** each theme contains list of event-&gt;audio_file_name mappings<br /> ** themes stored/managed via gconf<br /> * manage event sources<br /> ** built-in event sources, e.g. touchscreen/button press<br /> ** external event sources (e.g. gsmd, dbus, ...)<br /> <br /> === audio scenario management ===<br /> * e.g. dialer or even gsmd can request audio subsystem to switch to voicecall mode<br /> * this mainly affects codec/amplifier analog audio routing<br /> * integrated with bluetooth in case of BT headset or A2DP use<br /> * How is this management performed currently?<br /> <br /> == Important issues/pitfalls ==<br /> <br /> === Ringtone while headset playback ===<br /> <br /> If the user is listening to music on the headset, do we want to mix the<br /> ring tones only into the headset audio, or actually interrupt and play it<br /> on the speaker?<br /> <br /> Can be an option configurable by the user.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Neo1973 Hardware]]<br /> [[Category:Audio]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem 2008-09-01T22:17:08Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* using Bluetooth headset with GSM */</p> <hr /> <div>In the center of the [[Neo1973]] '''audio subsystem''' is the [[WM8753]] (the &quot;Wolfson Codec&quot;), which implements record (ADCs), playback (DACs), and signal mixing. On the stereo output is the [[LM4857]] amplifier, which drives the stereo speakers, the mono earpiece and the headphones. Sound from and to [[GSM]] is received from and sent to the GSM modem via analog connections. There's a digital mono interface for sound from and to the [[Bluetooth]] chip.<br /> <br /> === ALSA Channels ===<br /> [[Image:WM8753 ALSA Mapping.png]]<br /> <br /> === Phase0 Quick Start ===<br /> <br /> In my experience this works but I have to fiddle with the connection a bit before I get stereo output. The audio also comes out both the speaker and headphones.<br /> <br /> alsactl -f /etc/stereoout.state restore<br /> madplay myfavoritesong.mp3<br /> <br /> Another simple test (assuming you have [[USB_Networking|USB Networking]] configured) is to listen to a radio stream:<br /> <br /> wget -O - http://radioparadise.steadyhost.com:8050 | madplay -<br /> <br /> If for some reason you're missing stereoout.state, try getting a similar copy (a couple of volume levels are different is all)<br /> <br /> wget http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> === Voice Calls ===<br /> <br /> ==== using phone-internal microphone and speaker ====<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM handset.png]]<br /> <br /> This is the default case.<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: built in microphone attached to wolfson MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC2/MIC2N to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to EP+/EP-<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Handset<br /> Amp Mode is Call Speaker<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** Mic2 Volume<br /> ** ALC Micer Mic2<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; Speaker<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This should be supported by ASoC 0.13rc3 (-moko7 kernel) on.<br /> <br /> ASoC 0.13.3 should have same functionality but has renamed the soundcard to neo1973.<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using analog (4pin 2.5mm) headset ====<br /> <br /> This is also a quite common case, since we ship the headset with the<br /> phone<br /> <br /> Headset Detection is done via GPIO on S3C2410<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: headset mic vial HS_MIC attached to wolfson MIC1<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC1 to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Headset<br /> Amp Mode is Headphones<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC1<br /> ** Mic Selection Mux [Mic 1]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Mic1<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * Audio path GSM -&gt; Headphones<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Supported in ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmheadset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using Bluetooth headset with GSM ====<br /> <br /> NOTE none of this works with GTA02. Neo mode has disappeared, and none of the state files are GTA02 compatible.<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM Bluetooth.png]]<br /> <br /> Headset detection via software<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: from bluetooth via PCM interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson routes analog signal to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** wolfson: ADC<br /> ** wolfson: routes digital signal to PCM<br /> ** arrives on bluetooth chip via PCM<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Bluetooth<br /> Amp Mode is Off<br /> <br /> * audio path BT -&gt; GSM<br /> ** Vx DAC<br /> ** Mono Voice Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Voice Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; BT<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Rx<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Capture Mixer Mux [PGA]<br /> ** Capture Left Mixer [Analogue Mix Left]<br /> ** Left ADC<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Should be support by ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> Example of how to setup PCM-&gt;BT link.<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/bluetooth-pcm/bluetooth_pcm.c<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmbluetooth.state<br /> NOTE this will not work with GTA02, as the control numbers have changed<br /> <br /> === Bluetooth headset with system audio ===<br /> <br /> For example, using a voip app on the phone with a bt voice headset. This would also be a good way to work on the bluetooth driver without requiring a working GSM and placing a lot of calls.<br /> <br /> See ticket 583 for a state file that should route system audio *out* to the headset. The codec does not allow for duplex system audio connected to a headset, so audio in is still using the mic.<br /> <br /> === Multimedia ===<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to speakers ====<br /> <br /> This is an important mode since it is also required for ringtone<br /> playback<br /> <br /> * speaker path <br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** LM4857: route to LLS+-/RLS+-<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> This should also work on ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to headphone ====<br /> <br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback via A2DP ====<br /> <br /> One way to do this is to use a pulse plugin for bluetooth audio. Pulse would be routed either to the plugin or the default route to the codec. The plugin would watch for headset connect/disconnect events generated by a bluez audio daemon to keep the list of available output devices current.<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> There is early work on the bluez daemon to handle this. It has been combined with an alsa plugin in the bluez tree but the alsa plugin probably will not be sufficient for neo.<br /> <br /> ==== voice recording ==== <br /> <br /> This is mainly used to record notes<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** can be from built-in mic<br /> ** or from headset<br /> ** or bluetooth headset<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp]<br /> <br /> [http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state]<br /> <br /> === Call recording ===<br /> <br /> This is a nice wishlist item. The user should be able to receive the<br /> full-duplex audio from the wolfson codec, and record it using the<br /> S3C2410 IIS. <br /> <br /> ==== recording ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> ==== playback ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> == Userspace Sound Control Daemon ==<br /> <br /> The userspace sound control deamon might be a separate process or (more likely) part of some larger general hardware management daemon.<br /> <br /> <br /> It will provide the following features:<br /> <br /> === audio playback ===<br /> <br /> In order to provide the desired functionality, the daemon first needs to be capable of doing audio playback.<br /> <br /> * supported formats<br /> ** mp3 (libmad)<br /> ** ogg/vorbis (libtremor)<br /> ** mod (mikmod)<br /> ** sid (sidplay)<br /> * supported functionality<br /> ** start and stop playback<br /> ** interrupt previous sound to play new sound<br /> ** enqueue new sound at end of previous sound<br /> ** smooth fade-in/fade-out<br /> <br /> === audio event management ===<br /> * manage a set of events (basically just a name for each event)<br /> * manage a set of audio themes<br /> ** each theme contains list of event-&gt;audio_file_name mappings<br /> ** themes stored/managed via gconf<br /> * manage event sources<br /> ** built-in event sources, e.g. touchscreen/button press<br /> ** external event sources (e.g. gsmd, dbus, ...)<br /> <br /> === audio scenario management ===<br /> * e.g. dialer or even gsmd can request audio subsystem to switch to voicecall mode<br /> * this mainly affects codec/amplifier analog audio routing<br /> * integrated with bluetooth in case of BT headset or A2DP use<br /> * How is this management performed currently?<br /> <br /> == Important issues/pitfalls ==<br /> <br /> === Ringtone while headset playback ===<br /> <br /> If the user is listening to music on the headset, do we want to mix the<br /> ring tones only into the headset audio, or actually interrupt and play it<br /> on the speaker?<br /> <br /> Can be an option configurable by the user.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Neo1973 Hardware]]<br /> [[Category:Audio]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem 2008-08-30T23:13:10Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* asound.state */</p> <hr /> <div>In the center of the [[Neo1973]] '''audio subsystem''' is the [[WM8753]] (the &quot;Wolfson Codec&quot;), which implements record (ADCs), playback (DACs), and signal mixing. On the stereo output is the [[LM4857]] amplifier, which drives the stereo speakers, the mono earpiece and the headphones. Sound from and to [[GSM]] is received from and sent to the GSM modem via analog connections. There's a digital mono interface for sound from and to the [[Bluetooth]] chip.<br /> <br /> === ALSA Channels ===<br /> [[Image:WM8753 ALSA Mapping.png]]<br /> <br /> === Phase0 Quick Start ===<br /> <br /> In my experience this works but I have to fiddle with the connection a bit before I get stereo output. The audio also comes out both the speaker and headphones.<br /> <br /> alsactl -f /etc/stereoout.state restore<br /> madplay myfavoritesong.mp3<br /> <br /> Another simple test (assuming you have [[USB_Networking|USB Networking]] configured) is to listen to a radio stream:<br /> <br /> wget -O - http://radioparadise.steadyhost.com:8050 | madplay -<br /> <br /> If for some reason you're missing stereoout.state, try getting a similar copy (a couple of volume levels are different is all)<br /> <br /> wget http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> === Voice Calls ===<br /> <br /> ==== using phone-internal microphone and speaker ====<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM handset.png]]<br /> <br /> This is the default case.<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: built in microphone attached to wolfson MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC2/MIC2N to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to EP+/EP-<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Handset<br /> Amp Mode is Call Speaker<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC2/MIC2N<br /> ** Mic2 Volume<br /> ** ALC Micer Mic2<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; Speaker<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This should be supported by ASoC 0.13rc3 (-moko7 kernel) on.<br /> <br /> ASoC 0.13.3 should have same functionality but has renamed the soundcard to neo1973.<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmhandset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using analog (4pin 2.5mm) headset ====<br /> <br /> This is also a quite common case, since we ship the headset with the<br /> phone<br /> <br /> Headset Detection is done via GPIO on S3C2410<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: headset mic vial HS_MIC attached to wolfson MIC1<br /> ** routed from wolfson MIC1 to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** routed from wolfson RXN/RXP to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** arrives on LM4857 RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Headset<br /> Amp Mode is Headphones<br /> <br /> * audio path Mic -&gt; GSM<br /> ** MIC1<br /> ** Mic Selection Mux [Mic 1]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Mic1<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Mic Sidetone Mux [Left PGA]<br /> ** Mono Sidetone Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Sidetone Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * Audio path GSM -&gt; Headphones<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** Line Left Mux [Rx Mix]/Line Right Mux [Rx Mix]<br /> ** Left Mixer Bypass Playback Switch/Right Mixer Bypass Playback Switch<br /> ** Headphone Volume<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Supported in ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmheadset.state<br /> <br /> ==== using Bluetooth headset with GSM ====<br /> <br /> [[Image:WM8753 BlockDiagram GSM Bluetooth.png]]<br /> <br /> Headset detection via software<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** input: from bluetooth via PCM interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson routes analog signal to MONO1/MONO2<br /> ** arrives at GSM Modem input MICIP/MICIN<br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: GSM Modem attached to wolfson RXN/RXP<br /> ** wolfson: ADC<br /> ** wolfson: routes digital signal to PCM<br /> ** arrives on bluetooth chip via PCM<br /> <br /> ===== Internal Codec Route =====<br /> <br /> Neo Mode is GSM Bluetooth<br /> Amp Mode is Off<br /> <br /> * audio path BT -&gt; GSM<br /> ** Vx DAC<br /> ** Mono Voice Volume<br /> ** Mono Mixer Voice Playback Switch<br /> ** Mono Volume<br /> ** Mono 2 Mux [Inverted Mono 1]<br /> <br /> * audio path GSM -&gt; BT<br /> ** RXP/RXN<br /> ** Rx Mixer [RXP - RXN]<br /> ** ALC Mixer Rx<br /> ** Left PGA<br /> ** Capture Mixer Mux [PGA]<br /> ** Capture Left Mixer [Analogue Mix Left]<br /> ** Left ADC<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> Should be support by ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> Example of how to setup PCM-&gt;BT link.<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/bluetooth-pcm/bluetooth_pcm.c<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmbluetooth.state<br /> NOTE this will not work with GTA02, as the control numbers have changed<br /> <br /> === Bluetooth headset with system audio ===<br /> <br /> For example, using a voip app on the phone with a bt voice headset. This would also be a good way to work on the bluetooth driver without requiring a working GSM and placing a lot of calls.<br /> <br /> See ticket 583 for a state file that should route system audio *out* to the headset. The codec does not allow for duplex system audio connected to a headset, so audio in is still using the mic.<br /> <br /> === Multimedia ===<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to speakers ====<br /> <br /> This is an important mode since it is also required for ringtone<br /> playback<br /> <br /> * speaker path <br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** LM4857: route to LLS+-/RLS+-<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> This should also work on ASoC 0.13.3<br /> <br /> ===== asound.state =====<br /> <br /> https://people.openmoko.org/laforge/gta01/gta01b_v2/alsa/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> For ASoC 0.13.3 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/stereoout.state<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback to headphone ====<br /> <br /> * speaker path<br /> ** input: from S3C2410 via IIS interface to wolfson<br /> ** wolfson: DAC<br /> ** wolfson: route to ROUT1/LOUT1<br /> ** LM4857: arrives on RIN/LIN<br /> ** routed on LM4856 to LHP/RHP<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> This is working since ASoC 0.13rc2 (-moko6 kernel)<br /> <br /> ==== sound playback via A2DP ====<br /> <br /> One way to do this is to use a pulse plugin for bluetooth audio. Pulse would be routed either to the plugin or the default route to the codec. The plugin would watch for headset connect/disconnect events generated by a bluez audio daemon to keep the list of available output devices current.<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> There is early work on the bluez daemon to handle this. It has been combined with an alsa plugin in the bluez tree but the alsa plugin probably will not be sufficient for neo.<br /> <br /> ==== voice recording ==== <br /> <br /> This is mainly used to record notes<br /> <br /> * microphone path<br /> ** can be from built-in mic<br /> ** or from headset<br /> ** or bluetooth headset<br /> <br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Herp]<br /> <br /> [http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state http://wildsau.enemy.org/~moko/voice-recording.state]<br /> <br /> === Call recording ===<br /> <br /> This is a nice wishlist item. The user should be able to receive the<br /> full-duplex audio from the wolfson codec, and record it using the<br /> S3C2410 IIS. <br /> <br /> ==== recording ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> ==== playback ====<br /> <br /> FIXME<br /> ===== Driver Status =====<br /> <br /> UNKNOWN<br /> <br /> == Userspace Sound Control Daemon ==<br /> <br /> The userspace sound control deamon might be a separate process or (more likely) part of some larger general hardware management daemon.<br /> <br /> <br /> It will provide the following features:<br /> <br /> === audio playback ===<br /> <br /> In order to provide the desired functionality, the daemon first needs to be capable of doing audio playback.<br /> <br /> * supported formats<br /> ** mp3 (libmad)<br /> ** ogg/vorbis (libtremor)<br /> ** mod (mikmod)<br /> ** sid (sidplay)<br /> * supported functionality<br /> ** start and stop playback<br /> ** interrupt previous sound to play new sound<br /> ** enqueue new sound at end of previous sound<br /> ** smooth fade-in/fade-out<br /> <br /> === audio event management ===<br /> * manage a set of events (basically just a name for each event)<br /> * manage a set of audio themes<br /> ** each theme contains list of event-&gt;audio_file_name mappings<br /> ** themes stored/managed via gconf<br /> * manage event sources<br /> ** built-in event sources, e.g. touchscreen/button press<br /> ** external event sources (e.g. gsmd, dbus, ...)<br /> <br /> === audio scenario management ===<br /> * e.g. dialer or even gsmd can request audio subsystem to switch to voicecall mode<br /> * this mainly affects codec/amplifier analog audio routing<br /> * integrated with bluetooth in case of BT headset or A2DP use<br /> * How is this management performed currently?<br /> <br /> == Important issues/pitfalls ==<br /> <br /> === Ringtone while headset playback ===<br /> <br /> If the user is listening to music on the headset, do we want to mix the<br /> ring tones only into the headset audio, or actually interrupt and play it<br /> on the speaker?<br /> <br /> Can be an option configurable by the user.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Neo1973 Hardware]]<br /> [[Category:Audio]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Local_Groups:_San_Francisco 2008-08-08T04:17:17Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: </p> <hr /> <div>Are there any other OpenMoko community members here?<br /> <br /> {|border=1<br /> !Name<br /> !Skills<br /> !Interest<br /> !Location<br /> !Has Device<br /> !Has Debug Board<br /> |-<br /> |[http://www.asheesh.org/ Asheesh Laroia]<br /> |Programming, sysadminning<br /> |Whatever it takes to enjoy using it every day ;-)<br /> |San Francisco, CA (live and work in the city)<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:captain_morgan|Morgan]]<br /> |programming/some hardware<br /> |Hardware development<br /> |Mountain View/Oakland, CA<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:codyl|J.Cody]]<br /> |programming<br /> |Application development<br /> |Mountain View, CA<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:csnellman|Carl Snellman]]<br /> |Programming<br /> |Application development/Location based services<br /> |Palo Alto, CA<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:krid|Dirk Bergstrom]]<br /> |programming<br /> |&quot;Procmail&quot; for incoming calls/messages; GPS tracking<br /> |Mountain View, CA<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:samhiatt|Sam Hiatt]]<br /> |Application Development<br /> |FOSS, GIS/Navigation, Cartography<br /> |Mountain View, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:xyphus|Marco Barreno]]<br /> |programming<br /> |Power user/app development<br /> |Berkeley, CA<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:Elektrolott|Lothar]]<br /> |programming<br /> |Waiting for GTA02<br /> |Morgan Hill, CA<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:rabble|Rabble]]<br /> |programming<br /> |App Development &amp; Geowanking<br /> |San Francisco, CA<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:rtyler|R. Tyler Ballance]]<br /> |Development<br /> |Mobile Mono Applications<br /> |San Francisco, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:cfl|Cfl]]<br /> |Software/Architecture<br /> |Mobile Applications<br /> |San Jose, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:Pdesai|Pranav]]<br /> |programming, linux, sysadmin.<br /> |Applications, GPS, bluetooth<br /> |Sunnyvale, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:Michaelshiloh|Michael Shiloh]]<br /> |Programmer, teacher<br /> |Developer Relations and Evangelist for OpenMoko<br /> |San Francisco, CA (live and work in the city)<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> | [[Image: MokoBox.jpg|center]]<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:Maratgothix|Omar Green]]<br /> |Architect/Technologist<br /> |H/W, S/W, Intelligent services<br /> |San Francisco, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> | [[Image: MokoBox.jpg|center]]<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:mgoff|Michael Goff]]<br /> |Software Programmer<br /> |Applications<br /> |San Francisco, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> | [[Image: MokoBox.jpg|center]]<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:wisp|Joshua Layne]]<br /> |Programming<br /> |GPS/mapping/location aware apps, intelligent time/date mgmt<br /> |Half Moon Bay, CA<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:GrecoJava|David Pearson]]<br /> |Software Programmer<br /> |Applications<br /> |Petaluma, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> | [[Image: MokoBox.jpg|center]]<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:Rjt|Oldman]]<br /> |Computer/Network Engineer<br /> |System/Network Programming<br /> |Half Moon Bay, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> | [[Image: MokoBox.jpg|center]]<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:raels|raels]]<br /> |Programming, Management, Technologist<br /> |Applications, Linux compatible apps -- waiting for next HW release<br /> |Half Moon Bay, CA<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:jonathan.tsai|Jonathan Tsai]]<br /> |Software Engineering Grad Student [http://west.cmu.edu/ Carnegie Mellon West]&lt;br&gt;Participant of class project MobileAdvisor.org [http://www.mobileadvisor.org/ Join]<br /> |OpenMoko Evaluator <br /> |San Jose, CA<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:yochaigal|Yochai Gal]]<br /> |Application Testing<br /> |Linux Admin/Technician<br /> |San Francisco, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:wolfmanjm|Jim Morris]]<br /> |Programming,Networks<br /> |Ruby,remote access<br /> |San Jose, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:Vvaidy|Vijay Vaidyanathan]]<br /> |Programming<br /> |Command Line Phone!<br /> |Los Altos, CA<br /> |Y, FreeRunner<br /> |N<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:WilliamMorgan|William Morgan]]<br /> |programming<br /> |apps, ruby<br /> |San Francisco, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]] (freerunner)<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:Frang|Frang]]<br /> |Software architect, large-scale distributed systems<br /> |A new device to explore possibilities with.<br /> |Palo Alto, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]] (freerunner)<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:mmargushsf|Matthias Margush]]<br /> |Programming<br /> |Application programming, system testing, and documentation.<br /> |San Francisco, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]] (freerunner)<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:ieatlint|Jeffrey Malone]]<br /> |Programming<br /> |app dev<br /> |San Francisco, CA<br /> | [[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br /> | [[Image: MokoBox.jpg|center]]<br /> [[Category:Openmoko Local Groups]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile 2008-07-24T19:25:38Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Tips */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Languages|MokoMakefile}}<br /> <br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is a Makefile which saves lots of work when setting up an Openmoko build environment.<br /> By automating the setup process of a new Openmoko build environment, it provides an environment which is configured the same for all the existing developers and should therefore be preferred over manual procedures or individual setup procedures.<br /> It brings the same repeatability to build environment creation and maintenance as that which the BitBake scripts bring to [[OpenEmbedded]] ease and standardize the process of building OpenEmbedded.<br /> <br /> Unlike the manual process described at [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], MokoMakefile does not install anything into your system (it can and should be started as normal user).<br /> MokoMakefile is a wrapper around all that is required to make it easy to set up and maintain a development environment that fully complies with the setup instructions published by Openmoko.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is developed by [[User:RodWhitby|Rod Whitby]] - it is not an official product of Openmoko (although I would be happy for them to pick it up and use it internally). If there is any discrepancy between the [[Openmoko2007.2#How_to_build|official Openmoko build instructions]], and the operation of the MokoMakefile, then you should consider the official instructions to be correct.<br /> <br /> The MokoMakefile is able to build both OM-2007.2 and QTopia-X11 images.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile also builds the QEMU-based Neo1973 emulator as part of the build process and has make targets to install the Openmoko images into it and run it. These commands can also be used without downloading and building the whole Openmoko OpenEmbedded distribution. This part is described in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]].<br /> <br /> == Requirements for building Openmoko ==<br /> Independent on whether MokoMakefile or a manual process is used to setup an Openmoko build environment, there are several requirements which must be fulfilled in order for the Openmoko build to succeed:<br /> <br /> * RAM: The build host needs to have at least 512MB of RAM, and about the same amount of swap. Some packages built by OpenEmbedded like busybox are built by compiling all source files into one binary which causes gcc to grow beyond 300MB of size and no part of this memory may be on swap for the compile to finish in predictable time. For busybox, this can be turned off, but turning this off means that busybox will not as well optimized by gcc.<br /> <br /> * Disk space: You need about 12 GB of available disk space for the Openmoko build to succeed (see below for a tip on how to reduce this).<br /> <br /> * Time: The initial build takes at least 5 hours (on 2GHz core2duo without multiprocessor optimization) and may take several days on slower machines.<br /> <br /> === Required software ===<br /> <br /> Some distribution specific hints on preparing your build host for building OpenEmbedded are on http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro but they may be outdated, incomplete and do not cover everything which Openmoko needs to build.<br /> <br /> A good guide is [[Building Openmoko from scratch#Build host prerequisites|the section on build host prerequisites]] in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]]<br /> <br /> If you forgot anything which OE needs itself, OE will tell you shortly after you start building, but it does not check build dependencies of Openmoko, so you either have to install them before starting or install them after the build failed. OpenEmbedded will continue where it stopped when you restart the build afterwards.<br /> <br /> ==== Package requirements by distribution ====<br /> Your distribution needs to provide these commands in order for OpenEmbedded to start building:<br /> subversion texi2html texinfo help2man<br /> <br /> Openmoko needs the development packages (with header files, development libraries and tools) in order to finish building:<br /> ncurses zlib (or libz) OpenSSL GTK++<br /> <br /> Because there are bugs in the interaction of QEMU and GCC-4, you'll need a copy of gcc-3.x installed as well.<br /> <br /> ===== Debian / Ubuntu =====<br /> sudo apt-get install subversion build-essential help2man diffstat texi2html texinfo cvs gawk zip unzip cogito<br /> <br /> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev libssl-dev libgtk2.0-dev <br /> # To prevent errors in host validation<br /> sudo apt-get install ca-certificates<br /> # For Openmoko 2007.2 using BitBake-1.8.8:<br /> sudo apt-get install python-pysqlite2 sqlite3 sqlite3-doc python-pysqlite2-dbg<br /> # For building faster<br /> sudo apt-get install quilt python-psyco ccache<br /> # For qemu, install a second compiler for bug avoidance; MokoMakefile knows to look for it.<br /> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 g++-3.4 libsdl1.2-dev lynx netpbm dosfstools<br /> <br /> # On Ubuntu 8.04, the following was required instead of cogito<br /> sudo apt-get install git-core<br /> # Ubuntu links /bin/sh to /bin/dash, but some scripts fail because they use pushd and popd, which dash does not support<br /> sudo rm /bin/sh<br /> sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh<br /> <br /> # This may be needed only for ASU<br /> sudo apt-get install libxtst-dev<br /> <br /> ===== SuSE =====<br /> For building Openmoko on 10.3, you need<br /> gcc-c++ ncurses-devel zlib-devel libopenssl-devel gtk2-devel subversion diffstat texinfo help2man<br /> For MokoMakefile to not fail on compiling qemu-user, you need to use gcc33:<br /> wget download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/gcc/openSUSE_Factory/i586/{cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> rpm -Uhv {cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> <br /> See also the [[Talk:MokoMakefile#Building_on_SuSE_Linux_10.3-AMD64|Talk page on Building on SuSE Linux 10.3-AMD64]]<br /> <br /> 10.1 and 10.2: same packages as 10.3, but install &lt;code&gt;openssl-devel&lt;/code&gt; instead of libopenssl-devel.<br /> <br /> ==== For all distributions ====<br /> As the QEMU-based neo1973 emulator is also built as part of the build process started by MokoMakefile, so you need gcc-3.3 and other packages for building QEMU installed. See [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile#Build requirements|the build requirements section]] in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]] for information on the required software.<br /> <br /> If you are having problems compiling QEMU and do not need it, you can disable building of QEMU by adding following line to build/conf/local.conf file:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> ===== Proxy =====<br /> Users behind a proxy should ensure that their proxy is configured in their wgetrc file as the http_proxy environment variable is unset by MokoMakefile.<br /> <br /> == Building Openmoko with MokoMakefile ==<br /> <br /> === Preparations ===<br /> Create your $OMDIR directory (note that you can change ~/moko to any directory you like. If you have your ~moko dir mounted from a different file system, be sure to edit /etc/mtab to add the 'exec' permission to the file system, else bitbake will fail with error messages stating that /usr/bin/env is an invalid interpreter):<br /> mkdir ~/moko ; cd ~/moko<br /> <br /> === MokoMakefile ===<br /> Grab MokoMakefile:<br /> wget http://www.rwhitby.net/files/openmoko/Makefile <br /> <br /> If that doesn't work, try <br /> <br /> wget http://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/Makefile<br /> <br /> {{note|MokoMakefile uses BitBake 1.8.8 which requires python-sqlite2 and sqlite-3.3 or later. Users of SUSE Linux 10.1 can update to [http://download.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse/i586/sqlite-3.3.8-14.i586.rpm the version of openSUSE 10.2]}}<br /> <br /> === Environment ===<br /> Set up the environment:<br /> <br /> make setup<br /> <br /> If you want to make the ASU or FSO instead of the OM2007.2, see [[Distributions]], you need to edit your Makefile. Change OM_GIT_BRANCH to one of the following:<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.dev # OM2007.2<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.dev # ASU<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.stable # ASU stable<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openembedded.dev # FSO<br /> <br /> If you are building for the Freerunner GTA02, then also do this<br /> make setup-machine-freerunner<br /> <br /> === Building ===<br /> Before starting a lengthy make process, check the Tips section below for how to make Make multicore aware. You may want to modify the build/conf/local.conf file for your target (emulation/chroot) environment:<br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> (or use &quot;make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image&quot; if you're building the ASU)<br /> (or use &quot;make fso-image&quot; if you're building the FSO)<br /> <br /> ''Hint:'' The images build with this command can be found under {$OMDIR}/build/tmp/deploy/images/neo1973<br /> <br /> This will set up the recommended directory structure as described in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], will download all the required software (from the right places with the right versions), and will immediately start building an image.<br /> <br /> Once you have done this, you can choose to continue using the MokoMakefile to initiate your subsequent builds, or you can go into the build directory and run bitbake commands manually. The choice is yours.<br /> <br /> ==Updating the environment==<br /> For easy maintenance of your build environment the following commands are available.<br /> <br /> 1 - To update the MokoMakefile to the latest version:<br /> make update-makefile <br /> <br /> 2 - To make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied:<br /> make setup <br /> <br /> 3 - To update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version:<br /> make update<br /> <br /> A quick way to rebuild a new image with the latest updates:<br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> ==Build issues==<br /> First, make sure that the problem is reproducible after running<br /> <br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup &amp;&amp; make update<br /> <br /> then run<br /> <br /> make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;<br /> <br /> (where you replace &lt;foo&gt; with the name of the package which is failing)<br /> <br /> and finally<br /> <br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> With luck - you should now have images in your $omdir/build/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ directory.<br /> You can then [[Flashing openmoko||flash these.]]<br /> <br /> <br /> If not, and you can get the error to occur three times in a row after running that sequence of commands (including the update and setup steps) three times, then feel free to report it to rwhitby in #openmoko on [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Development_resources#IRC IRC].<br /> <br /> If you have chronic build problems, cleaning your environment variables and re-running the build from scratch may help. The following script should remove all non-essential variables; you should also manually trim your path to the minimum.<br /> `env | grep -Ev '^SHELL=|^TERM=|^OLDPWD=|^USER=|^USERNAME=|^PATH=|^EDITOR=|^LANG=|^HOME=|^DISPLAY=|^_=' | sed 's/^\(.*\)=.*/unset \1/'`<br /> <br /> (you must include the backtics).<br /> Note that on some boxes it is necessary to call &quot;make&quot; by typing &quot;/usr/bin/make&quot; afterwards.<br /> <br /> <br /> On current ubuntu boxes another trick is necessary:<br /> glibc_2.6.1 fails to build since it is unable to generate the necessary locales until you type in the following line:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=0<br /> Note that this temporarily disables a new security vulnerability check that has entered /etc/sysctrl - but that makes problems with loads of applications.<br /> To re-enable this check do the following:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=65536<br /> See the talk page of this article for more details on this solution.<br /> <br /> ===Known MokoMakefile errors ===<br /> ==== SVN Server Certificate Errors ====<br /> If you get an error like the following:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> NOTE: Fetch svn://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/;module=assassin;proto=https<br /> Error validating server certificate for 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org:443':<br /> - The certificate is not issued by a trusted authority. Use the<br /> fingerprint to validate the certificate manually!<br /> Certificate information:<br /> - Hostname: projects.openmoko.org<br /> - Valid: from Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:02:42 GMT until Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:02:42 GMT<br /> - Issuer: http://www.cacert.org, Root CA<br /> - Fingerprint: a5:7d:4e:37:e8:94:ee:ba:c1:e8:e9:4b:33:cb:34:91:a9:6d:d3:84<br /> (R)eject, accept (t)emporarily or accept (p)ermanently? svn: OPTIONS of 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin': Server certificate verification failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.projects.openmoko.org)<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> It means you haven't yet accepted the server certificate for the SVN server. To remedy this, execute the following commands, and hit &quot;p&quot; (to permanently accept the certificate) when prompted:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> cd /tmp<br /> svn co https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin<br /> rm -rf assassin<br /> cd -<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== exposure_svn and Subversion 1.5.0 ====<br /> <br /> If you get an error like this:<br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;<br /> &quot;NameError: global name 'log' is not defined&quot;<br /> &lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> There's a bug with subversion 1.5.0 -- downgrade to 1.4.x (or check out the latest subversion sources and use those as they're fixed) and re-fetch the sources.<br /> <br /> ===Fixes for distribution/environment-specific or isolated issues===<br /> <br /> Work-arounds for temporary or isolated problems can be found and should be added to the [[Talk:MokoMakefile|Discussion page]] which is associated with this page. As they are fixed, they will be removed from that page.<br /> <br /> ==Tips==<br /> *Make sure umask is set to 0022 before you run &quot;make setup&quot;<br /> <br /> *You can reduce the amount of consumed disk space significantly by adding<br /> INHERIT += &quot;rm_work&quot;<br /> in your local.conf (e.g. ~/moko/build/conf/local.conf). This will remove the contents of each build/tmp/work/*/&lt;package&gt; directory after the corresponding package builds correctly. As of 10/16/07, this appears to be present in local.conf by default.<br /> <br /> *If a certain package does not build due to corrupted download or some such try to remove the sources and rebuild it.<br /> rm sources/&lt;package&gt;*<br /> cd build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -crebuild &lt;package&gt;<br /> after that your build might just work again.<br /> <br /> *For people with multiple CPU's (or dual-core ones) this small patch might be useful to build things faster.<br /> Edit the local.conf and add the following lines:<br /> PARALLEL_MAKE = &quot;-j 4&quot;<br /> BB_NUMBER_THREADS = &quot;4&quot;<br /> <br /> Change the PARALLEL_MAKE and BB_NUMBER_THREADS values to something that suits better if it chokes your machine.<br /> <br /> * I have some problem with the parallel building, mkfs.jffs failed to build the image because the directory was modify while the building of the fs. [[User:Patrick.hetu|patrick.hetu]] 02:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC) <br /> <br /> * If you encounter an error related with the qemu-native package and not compiling for the qemu, you can edit the build/conf/local.conf file and add ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot; line to avoid the error.<br /> <br /> * To prevent building tons of locales, add a line like this to local.conf:<br /> GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = &quot;en_US.UTF-8 nl_NL.UTF-8&quot;<br /> <br /> * To not build any binary locales at all, add this to local.conf:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> * If you want to rebuild the package indexes (for instance, after compiling a new version of a package) without building &lt;code&gt;openmoko-devel-image&lt;/code&gt;, run &lt;code&gt;make build-package-package-index&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> <br /> [[User:Wurp]] will update this to be a little more comprehensible, but maybe it can help someone as-is in the meantime:<br /> * If MokoMakefile always fails on some fetch in zlib, just find the binary somewhere, add it to the downloads or sources directory manually (create the .md5 matching file if necessary), and retry.<br /> <br /> * Make sure you do not have . in your PATH, this causes an &quot;unrecognized option -Qy&quot; error when building g++spec<br /> <br /> === Useful commands ===<br /> Here is the list (not complete) of useful MokoMakefile commands (actually make targets) and a short description of each one. These should be run inside $OMDIR directory.<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-image : build the full development image<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-tools : build statically-linked [[dfu-util]] and [[openocd]] binaries<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-toolchain : builds [[toolchain]]<br /> <br /> ; make qemu : builds qemu, downloads flash images from official repository, flashes qemu emulated Neo1973 and runs emulator (see also [[Openmoko under QEMU]]). <br /> <br /> ; make qemu-local : same as ''make qemu'', but uses locally built images instead of official ones.<br /> <br /> ; make run-qemu : runs qemu with usb keyboard ''(note: qemu must first be built!)''. This target starts the emulator with some predefined set of options. If you need to start it with other options (enable telnet, etc), see [[QEMU_command_line]].<br /> <br /> ; make build-package-&lt;package name&gt; : buids ''&lt;package name&gt;'' package<br /> <br /> ; make update-makefile : updates MokoMakefile<br /> <br /> ; make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;: cleans the &quot;&lt;foo&gt;&quot; package<br /> <br /> ; make setup : to make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied<br /> <br /> ; make update : to update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version<br /> <br /> ; make setup-machine-freerunner : setup for GTA02 version of Freerunner<br /> <br /> ==Developing with MokoMakefile==<br /> <br /> {{note|If using MokoMakefile with OM2007.2 then references to $OMDIR/openmoko should be replaced with $OMDIR/openembedded. Also references to tmp/work/armv4t-linux should be replaced with tmp/work/fic-gta01-angstrom-linux-gnueabi}}<br /> <br /> For the following explanations $OMDIR is the directory where there Makefile puts all the stuff.<br /> <br /> To make in-tree changes and have them built and used by qemu:<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko<br /> quilt new descriptive-patch-name.patch<br /> quilt add trunk/src/name-of-file-to-change # do this for every file you are about to modify<br /> ...make the changes...<br /> quilt refresh # this creates a file in $OMDIR/patches/openmoko-HEAD/ and updates the quilt series file there<br /> <br /> Note: Do '''NOT''' use absolute paths as this confuses quilt and will get you a diff of the file against /dev/null!<br /> <br /> To build the changes and have them used by qemu:<br /> <br /> make build-qemu<br /> make flash-qemu-local<br /> make run-qemu<br /> <br /> If you want to modify applications instead of the openmoko toolchain, this is what you have to do (example: openmoko-messages):<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -c unpack openmoko-messages<br /> cd tmp/work/armv4t-linux/openmoko-messages-0.0.1+svnnow-r2_2276/openmoko-messages/<br /> ''...make the changes...''<br /> cd -<br /> bitbake openmoko-messages<br /> <br /> Then continue with MokoMakefile usage.<br /> <br /> If you want to add an application to your openmoko distribution, do this:<br /> All file edits should be done using quilt as described above. That way a patch can easily be submitted to the openmoko project.<br /> First, create a directory that will correspond to your package and edit a '''.bb''' file in there:<br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko/<br /> quilt new mycoolpackage.patch<br /> mkdir trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage<br /> quilt add trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> <br /> The file should have the following content:<br /> DESCRIPTION = &quot;This is a cool package&quot;<br /> SECTION = &quot;username/mycoolpackage&quot;<br /> PV = &quot;1&quot;<br /> <br /> inherit autotools<br /> <br /> SRC_URI = &quot;http://www.example.com/download/mycoolpackage-1.tar.gz&quot;<br /> <br /> Explanation:<br /> * DESCRIPTION - Just a short text explaining the package<br /> * SECTION - I have no clue, but I'll use username/mycoolpackage for now<br /> * PV - Package Version<br /> * inherit autotools - The package can be compiled by './configure &amp;&amp; make &amp;&amp; make install' so we tell MokoMakefile to do it this way.<br /> * SRC_URI = ... - This is the download location of the package source. It's imperative that the tar.gz contains a directory called '''packagename-packageversion''' (in this case: mycoolpackage-1) so that MokoMakefile can find it automatically or the build will fail.<br /> <br /> This is not all. We also need to tell MokoMakfile that it needs to build and include the package in the image. To do this, do<br /> $OMDIR/openmoko# quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb<br /> Here, increase the value '''PR''' by one and add '''mycoolpackage \''' (with the backslash!) just before the line reading '''# update-alternatives \'''.<br /> <br /> Now run<br /> quilt refresh<br /> cd ..<br /> make update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> And if everything's alright you should now have an OpenMoko image to flash to your phone or run in qemu as described above.<br /> <br /> === Hello World application ===<br /> <br /> There is a [[Building a hello world application|Hello World!]] tutorial available too.<br /> <br /> ==Testimonials==<br /> MokoMakefile is recommended by 4 out of 4 new developers on #openmoko, with testimonials such as &quot;For some reason last night I couldn't get my manual install of everything to work (bb complained about my bbpath I think) ... but with your makefile, it works great!&quot;, &quot;MokoMakefile rocks!&quot;, &quot;Wow this build system is nice - it just seems more polished than my gumstix toolchain buildroot system&quot;, and &quot;make openmoko-devel-image :) - no magic there&quot;.<br /> <br /> Project page:<br /> http://mokomakefile.projects.openmoko.org/<br /> <br /> [[Category:Openmoko]]<br /> [[Category:Applications]]<br /> [[Category:Application Developer]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup 2008-07-21T00:26:25Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: </p> <hr /> <div>You will need the [[Dfu-util]] to make a backup of your existing image.<br /> <br /> As when [[Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner|flashing]], you will need to be in [[FreeRunner/Buttons_and_LEDs#Basic_Button_Usage|U-Boot in the NOR Flash]].<br /> <br /> THIS WILL TAKE AWHILE. The rootfs will take significantly longer than the kernel.<br /> <br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.bin<br /> ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> Here is what my successful output looked like...<br /> <br /> on the host PC:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> $ sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.img<br /> dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.<br /> This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY<br /> <br /> Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...<br /> Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...<br /> Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0<br /> Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...<br /> Resetting USB...<br /> Opening USB Device...<br /> Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=12, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=&quot;kernel&quot;<br /> Claiming USB DFU Interface...<br /> Setting Alternate Setting ...<br /> Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0<br /> dfuIDLE, continuing<br /> Transfer Size = 0x1000<br /> Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode<br /> $ sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2<br /> dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.<br /> This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY<br /> <br /> Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...<br /> Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=16, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=&quot;rootfs&quot;<br /> Claiming USB DFU Interface...<br /> Setting Alternate Setting ...<br /> Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14<br /> dfuERROR, clearing status<br /> Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0<br /> dfuIDLE, continuing<br /> Transfer Size = 0x1000<br /> Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> Despite the fact that there was a device status with state=dfuERROR, everything seems to have worked.<br /> <br /> on the FreeRunner:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> DFU: Switching to DFU Mode<br /> DEVICE_CONFIGURED: 1<br /> Starting DFU Upload of partition 'kernel'<br /> DEVICE_CONFIGURED: 1<br /> Starting DFU Upload of partition 'rootfs'<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> I could backup the kernel of my GTA02 but trying to use this method to backup the rootfs failed several times....<br /> dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.<br /> This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY<br /> <br /> Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...<br /> Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... <br /> Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0<br /> Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...<br /> Resetting USB... <br /> Opening USB Device...<br /> Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=20, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=&quot;rootfs&quot;<br /> Claiming USB DFU Interface...<br /> Setting Alternate Setting ...<br /> Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0<br /> dfuIDLE, continuing<br /> Transfer Size = 0x1000<br /> dfu_upload error -110<br /> <br /> In demsg I get this error<br /> usb 5-2: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd dfu-util rqt 161 rq 2 len 4096 ret -110<br /> <br /> I have not been able to backup rootfs using this method.</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-Boot 2008-07-21T00:09:31Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* USB connectivity problems */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Languages|Bootloader}}<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> {{Bootloader}}<br /> [[Image:GTA01-U-Boot.JPG|thumb|300px|u-boot menu on Neo1973]] [[Image:Neo1973 uboot splash closeup.jpg|thumb|300px|u-boot splash screen on Neo1973]]<br /> <br /> The bootloader on the [[Neo1973]], '''U-Boot''', takes care of device functionality until [[Openmoko]] is booted. This includes [[USB DFU]] for [[flashing Openmoko]], a splash screen, a boot menu, a console for [[bootloader commands]], configuration via [[bootloader environment]], and loading a [[kernel]]. <br /> <br /> There are various [[bootloader versions]] available.<br /> <br /> == Phase0 Quick Start ==<br /> * Make sure that your phone has had the battery and USB cable removed for at least 30 seconds.<br /> * Connect the Neo (ie not Debug Board) to a Linux host with the USB cable.<br /> * Hold in the AUX button on power-up to access the boot menu.<br /> * Set the console to USB.<br /> * Connect to /dev/ttyACM0 with a terminal program on the Linux host (you might need to chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttyACM0 )<br /> * Note that the cdc_acm /dev/ttyACM0 access disappears as soon as the Neo boots, and is replaced by the cdc_ether usb0 network access.<br /> * You're now at the bootloader prompt.<br /> * Set the bootdelay uboot environment variable to -1 if you want it to always halt at the bootloader on power-up.<br /> <br /> == General ==<br /> <br /> The GTA01 uses the [http://u-boot.sourceforge.net/ u-boot] bootloader.<br /> <br /> More information on u-boot can be found at <br /> * http://www.denx.de/wiki/DULG<br /> * http://www.gumstix.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=U-Boot<br /> * http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5085702347.html<br /> <br /> Additions to the vanilla u-boot already implemented include: <br /> * Support for boot from NAND flash using [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]]<br /> * Support for S3C2410 NAND flash<br /> * Support for downloading programs via S3C2410 USB Device Controller<br /> * Support to display bootup logo / status on S3C2410 Framebuffer<br /> <br /> However, u-boot still doesn't support many of the features that GTA01 needs, such as<br /> * Support for reading kernel/initrd from SD/Transflash<br /> <br /> [[User:HaraldWelte|HaraldWelte]] is working on those issues, and in fact most of them have already been implemented.<br /> <br /> == Bootloader source code ==<br /> <br /> The current bootloader patches can be found at http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/. <br /> <br /> Untar the sources, apply the patch, run &quot;make gta01bv3_config&quot; (or gta01bv2_config, or whatever hardware revision you have), run &quot;make&quot;. You will get a resulting &quot;u-boot.bin&quot; image, which you can directly flash (either using existing bootloader or [[sjf2410-linux]]) into NAND.<br /> <br /> == Bootloader binary ==<br /> <br /> The latest bootloader binary builds can be found under http://buildhost.openmoko.org/snapshots in the subdirectory 200X.XX/images/. It should be written to the NAND flash address 0x00000000 (size 0x30000) (the first [[partition]]).<br /> <br /> == Bootloader development ==<br /> <br /> === QT2410 ===<br /> If you want to do bootloader development on the QT2410, it's easier to work with a bootloader image that can be downloaded via USB into RAM instead of flashing.<br /> <br /> To do so, you need to edit the u-boot/include/configs/qt2410.h file, and change the &quot;if 0&quot; in Line 32 into a &quot;if 1&quot;, then recompile with &quot;make&quot;.<br /> <br /> The resulting &quot;u-boot.bin&quot; is _NOT SUITABLE_ for NAND flash, but only for direct execution from within ram, e.g. by using the [[s3c2410_boot_usb]] program.<br /> <br /> === GTA01 ===<br /> <br /> Doing bootloader development on the GTA01 is a bit more tricky. first, we don't have any NOR flash. Second, there is no other way to boot _but_ from NAND. Therefore, we also don't have a USB downloader like the QT2410.<br /> <br /> The main problem is: The [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]] unconditionally copies the first 4k of flash into its internal SRAM. That SRAM segment stays unconditionally mapped at physical address zero. How do we get around this<br /> <br /> === GTA02 ===<br /> <br /> The first block holds a little 4KByte RAM buffer that is auto-filled<br /> from NAND by CPU hardware, called &quot;steppingstone&quot; when we boot from<br /> NAND, or the NOR is mapped in there.<br /> <br /> nCS0: 00000000 07FFFFFF 4K steppingstone or NOR (Aux held down) &lt;br&gt;<br /> nCS1: 08000000 0FFFFFFF Glamo &lt;br&gt;<br /> nCS2: 10000000 17FFFFFF nothing mapped &lt;br&gt;<br /> nCS3: 18000000 1FFFFFFF NOR &lt;br&gt;<br /> nCS4: 20000000 17FFFFFF nothing mapped &lt;br&gt;<br /> nCS5: 28000000 2FFFFFFF nothing mapped &lt;br&gt;<br /> nCS6: 30000000 37FFFFFF on-MCP SDRAM 128MB &lt;br&gt;<br /> nCS7: 38000000 3FFFFFFF external SDRAM 128MB &lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Using JTAG to boot from RAM ====<br /> <br /> So how can we boot from RAM? We use JTAG / OpenOCD to<br /> <br /> * Reset and halt the cpu at PC=0<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> &gt; reset halt<br /> target halted in ARM state due to debug request, current mode: Supervisor<br /> cpsr: 0x400000d3 pc: 0x00000000<br /> MMU: disabled, D-Cache: disabled, I-Cache: disabled<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> * Download a small piece of code for low-level SDRAM timing initialization (overwrite 4k SRAM of steppingstone)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> &gt; load_binary /space/misc/gta01/u-boot.git/board/gta01/lowlevel_foo.bin 0 <br /> downloaded 332 byte in 0s 21899us<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> * Assert a break point at address 0x33f80000 (which indicates that the low-level code has finished)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> &gt; bp 0x33f80000 4 hw<br /> breakpoint added at address 0x33f80000<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> * Run the code up to the break point<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> &gt; resume<br /> Target 0 resumed<br /> &gt; Target 0 halted<br /> target halted in ARM state due to breakpoint, current mode: Supervisor<br /> cpsr: 0x600000d3 pc: 0x33f80000<br /> MMU: disabled, D-Cache: disabled, I-Cache: enabled<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> * Download the u-boot RAM image to 0x33f80000<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> &gt; load_binary /space/misc/gta01/u-boot.git/u-boot.bin 0x33f80000<br /> downloaded 135692 byte in 6s 567264us<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> * Resume processing<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> &gt; resume<br /> Target 0 resumed<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> At this point, the display backlight gets bright and we see the following familiar prompt on the serial console:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> U-Boot 1.1.6 (Jan 13 2007 - 23:44:23)<br /> <br /> DRAM: 128 MB<br /> NAND: 64 MiB<br /> *** Warning - bad CRC or NAND, using default environment<br /> <br /> In: serial<br /> Out: serial<br /> Err: serial<br /> Hit any key to stop autoboot: 0 <br /> GTA01Bv2 # <br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> == Creating bootable images ==<br /> <br /> u-boot needs bootable images (such as kernels, but also initrd and others) in form of a so-called ''uImage''. In order to create a ''uImage'' from e.g. a ''vmlinux'' kernel image, you can proceed as follows:<br /> <br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -S vmlinux linux.bin<br /> gzip -9 linux.bin<br /> u-boot/tools/mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C gzip -a 30008000 -e 30008000 -n &quot;Kernel Image QT2410&quot; -d linux.bin.gz uImage<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> == Boot menu ==<br /> [[Image:Neo1973 uboot menu.jpg|thumb|400px|u-boot boot menu on Neo1973]]<br /> <br /> As of the Phase-0 release, our u-boot version now features an on-screen boot menu. The items are defined by [[bootloader environment#menu|menu entries in the environment]].<br /> <br /> === Accessing the boot menu ===<br /> <br /> You can access the boot menu by pressing and holding the [[Neo1973 AUX Button]] together with the power button while switching the phone on.<br /> <br /> === Using the boot menu ===<br /> <br /> By pressing the [[Neo1973 AUX Button]] you can cycle through the menu items. Use the ''POWER'' button to select one item. <br /> <br /> == Bootloader prompt ==<br /> <br /> === Accessing the bootloader prompt ===<br /> The bootloader prompt is available either on the serial console (via [[Debug Board]]), or as virtual USB Serial device (USB CDC_ACM).<br /> Whether the serial port or usb is used depends on the u-boot environment variables '''stdin''', '''stdout''' and '''stderr'''.<br /> <br /> Whether or not you use usbtty, the first couple of messages will always be displayed on the serial console.<br /> <br /> The bootloader is currently configured to wait for three seconds. If a key press on the '''stdin''' is received within those three seconds, auto-boot is aborted.<br /> <br /> ==== Using usbtty from Linux ====<br /> <br /> Just by connecting the phone in u-boot mode to your Linux pc should make it detect a [[CDC ACM]] device, and you should get a new tty device called /dev/ttyACM0. If not, enable the CONFIG_USB_ACM (Device Drivers -&gt; USB support -&gt; USB Modem (CDC ACM) support). (Instructions for MacOS users are [[MacOS_X#USB_Serial|here]])<br /> <br /> Use your favourite terminal emulator (minicom, cu, zc, screen ...) to access it like any other serial port. If you don't have a favorite, try just: (cu is in the taylor-uucp package, use &quot;apt-get install cu&quot; if it is not yet installed)<br /> cu -l /dev/ttyACM0<br /> <br /> You might need to <br /> chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttyACM0<br /> <br /> to get the necessary rights (even as root).<br /> <br /> A nice alternative for cu is Werner Almesberger's [[NeoCon|neocon]].<br /> <br /> First, you should try to check whether the USB device shows up in 'lsusb' while you're running in u-boot mode:<br /> <br /> # lsusb -d 1457:5119<br /> Bus 005 Device 079: ID 1457:5119 <br /> <br /> Second, lets see some more details about the available endpoints and configurations:<br /> <br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> # lsusb -v -d 1457:5119<br /> Bus 005 Device 079: ID 1457:5119 <br /> Device Descriptor:<br /> bLength 18<br /> bDescriptorType 1<br /> bcdUSB 1.10<br /> bDeviceClass 2 Communications<br /> bDeviceSubClass 0 <br /> bDeviceProtocol 0 <br /> bMaxPacketSize0 16<br /> idVendor 0x1457 <br /> idProduct 0x5119 <br /> bcdDevice 0.00<br /> iManufacturer 1 OpenMoko, Inc<br /> iProduct 2 Neo1973 Bootloader U-Boot 1.2.0-g6c7cac8c-dirty-moko3<br /> iSerial 3 0000000<br /> bNumConfigurations 1<br /> Configuration Descriptor:<br /> bLength 9<br /> bDescriptorType 2<br /> wTotalLength 85<br /> bNumInterfaces 3<br /> bConfigurationValue 1<br /> iConfiguration 4 TTY via USB<br /> bmAttributes 0xc0<br /> Self Powered<br /> MaxPower 0mA<br /> Interface Descriptor:<br /> bLength 9<br /> bDescriptorType 4<br /> bInterfaceNumber 0<br /> bAlternateSetting 0<br /> bNumEndpoints 1<br /> bInterfaceClass 2 Communications<br /> bInterfaceSubClass 2 Abstract (modem)<br /> bInterfaceProtocol 1 AT-commands (v.25ter)<br /> iInterface 6 Control Interface<br /> CDC Header:<br /> bcdCDC 0.6e<br /> CDC Call Management:<br /> bmCapabilities 0x00<br /> bDataInterface 1<br /> CDC ACM:<br /> bmCapabilities 0x00<br /> CDC Union:<br /> bMasterInterface 0<br /> bSlaveInterface 1 <br /> Endpoint Descriptor:<br /> bLength 7<br /> bDescriptorType 5<br /> bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN<br /> bmAttributes 3<br /> Transfer Type Interrupt<br /> Synch Type None<br /> Usage Type Data<br /> wMaxPacketSize 0x0010 1x 16 bytes<br /> bInterval 255<br /> Interface Descriptor:<br /> bLength 9<br /> bDescriptorType 4<br /> bInterfaceNumber 1<br /> bAlternateSetting 0<br /> bNumEndpoints 2<br /> bInterfaceClass 10 CDC Data<br /> bInterfaceSubClass 0 Unused<br /> bInterfaceProtocol 0 <br /> iInterface 5 Bulk Data Interface<br /> Endpoint Descriptor:<br /> bLength 7<br /> bDescriptorType 5<br /> bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT<br /> bmAttributes 2<br /> Transfer Type Bulk<br /> Synch Type None<br /> Usage Type Data<br /> wMaxPacketSize 0x0010 1x 16 bytes<br /> bInterval 255<br /> Endpoint Descriptor:<br /> bLength 7<br /> bDescriptorType 5<br /> bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN<br /> bmAttributes 2<br /> Transfer Type Bulk<br /> Synch Type None<br /> Usage Type Data<br /> wMaxPacketSize 0x0010 1x 16 bytes<br /> bInterval 255<br /> Interface Descriptor:<br /> bLength 9<br /> bDescriptorType 4<br /> bInterfaceNumber 2<br /> bAlternateSetting 0<br /> bNumEndpoints 0<br /> bInterfaceClass 254 Application Specific Interface<br /> bInterfaceSubClass 1 Device Firmware Update<br /> bInterfaceProtocol 1 <br /> iInterface 7 USB Device Firmware Upgrade<br /> Device Status: 0x0001<br /> Self Powered<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> Next, you can access it using your favourite terminal program.<br /> <br /> Then, if the environment is not set correctly, you will need to use the current console (e.g. serial console) to change the [[bootloader environment#console|console entries in the environment]]:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> GTA01Bv2 # setenv stderr usbtty<br /> GTA01Bv2 # setenv stdout usbtty<br /> GTA01Bv2 # setenv stdin usbtty<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Typical u-boot prompt ====<br /> <br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> U-Boot 1.2.0-moko1 (Feb 16 2007 - 00:36:13)<br /> <br /> DRAM: 128 MB<br /> NAND: 64 MiB<br /> Found Environment offset in OOB..<br /> Video: 640x480x8 31kHz 59Hz<br /> USB: S3C2410 USB Deviced<br /> In: serial<br /> Out: serial<br /> Err: serial<br /> Hit any key to stop autoboot: 0 <br /> GTA01Bv3 #<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> === Commands on the bootloader prompt ===<br /> <br /> :''See [[bootloader commands]].''<br /> <br /> <br /> == Device Firmware Upgrade ==<br /> <br /> Our version of u-boot also implements [[USB DFU]]. This can be useful to<br /> load files and kernel for quick testing.<br /> <br /> To find out whether your version of u-boot supports this, use the output of<br /> $ lsusb -v -d 1457:5119<br /> while the phone is in u-boot mode.<br /> <br /> If it supports DFU, you should see the following snippet towards the end of the output:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> Interface Descriptor:<br /> bLength 9<br /> bDescriptorType 4<br /> bInterfaceNumber 2<br /> bAlternateSetting 0<br /> bNumEndpoints 0<br /> bInterfaceClass 254 Application Specific Interface<br /> bInterfaceSubClass 1 Device Firmware Update<br /> bInterfaceProtocol 1 <br /> iInterface 0 <br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> For information on how to do firmware upgrades, please see [[dfu-util]].<br /> <br /> === Booting files over DFU ===<br /> <br /> To load a file at memory address 0x32000000:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> dfu-util -a 0 -D fileToLoad -R<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> After that, send 'bootm 0x32000000' to u-boot or 'bootelf 0x32000000' if<br /> its an elf file.<br /> <br /> Simple python script that can boot an ELF image - avoiding a ACM bug that breaks on large packets.<br /> <br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> #!/usr/bin/python<br /> import sys<br /> import os<br /> import time<br /> <br /> cmd1 = &quot;neo backlight off\n&quot;<br /> cmd2 = &quot;bootelf 0x32000000\n&quot;<br /> <br /> def output(tty, str):<br /> for x in str:<br /> tty.write(x)<br /> tty.flush()<br /> <br /> if len(sys.argv) == 2:<br /> print &quot;Loading %s...&quot; % sys.argv[1]<br /> <br /> loadfile = &quot;dfu-util -a 0 -D %s -R&quot; % sys.argv[1]<br /> <br /> os.system(loadfile)<br /> <br /> time.sleep(3)<br /> <br /> tty = open(&quot;/dev/ttyACM0&quot;, &quot;a&quot;)<br /> <br /> output(tty, cmd1)<br /> output(tty, cmd2)<br /> <br /> tty.close()<br /> else:<br /> print &quot;Usage: %s elffile&quot; % sys.argv[0]<br /> print &quot;&quot;<br /> sys.exit(2)<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> == Troubleshooting ==<br /> <br /> === USB connectivity problems ===<br /> <br /> I once got errors like this (in dmesg or /var/log/messages) on the host side while connecting the neo in u-boot:<br /> <br /> usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110<br /> usb usb2: Controller not stopped yet!<br /> <br /> The problem disappeared at least for me by the command below on the host side. Please note that if you have usb keyboard or mouse then the command might cause trouble.. I only have PS/2 so I couldn't test it.<br /> <br /> rmmod uhci_hcd ; modprobe uhci_hcd<br /> <br /> I also got this error a few times, I was able to fix it by plugging the FR into a different USB port on my host, preferably one on the Motherboard not the hub.<br /> <br /> See [[Flashing Openmoko]]<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:System Developers]]<br /> [[Category:Flashing Openmoko]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup 2008-07-20T23:08:23Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: </p> <hr /> <div>You will need the [[Dfu-util]] to make a backup of your existing image.<br /> <br /> As when [[Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner|flashing]], you will need to be in [[FreeRunner/Buttons_and_LEDs#Basic_Button_Usage|U-Boot in the NOR Flash]].<br /> <br /> THIS WILL TAKE AWHILE. The rootfs will take significantly longer than the kernel.<br /> <br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.bin<br /> ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> Here is what my successful output looked like...<br /> <br /> on the host PC:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> $ sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.img<br /> dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.<br /> This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY<br /> <br /> Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...<br /> Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...<br /> Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0<br /> Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...<br /> Resetting USB...<br /> Opening USB Device...<br /> Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=12, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=&quot;kernel&quot;<br /> Claiming USB DFU Interface...<br /> Setting Alternate Setting ...<br /> Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0<br /> dfuIDLE, continuing<br /> Transfer Size = 0x1000<br /> Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode<br /> $ sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2<br /> dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.<br /> This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY<br /> <br /> Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...<br /> Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=16, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=&quot;rootfs&quot;<br /> Claiming USB DFU Interface...<br /> Setting Alternate Setting ...<br /> Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14<br /> dfuERROR, clearing status<br /> Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0<br /> dfuIDLE, continuing<br /> Transfer Size = 0x1000<br /> Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> Despite the fact that there was a device status with state=dfuERROR, everything seems to have worked.<br /> <br /> on the FreeRunner:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> DFU: Switching to DFU Mode<br /> DEVICE_CONFIGURED: 1<br /> Starting DFU Upload of partition 'kernel'<br /> DEVICE_CONFIGURED: 1<br /> Starting DFU Upload of partition 'rootfs'<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile 2008-07-20T04:37:23Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Useful commands */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Languages|MokoMakefile}}<br /> <br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is a Makefile which saves lots of work when setting up an Openmoko build environment.<br /> By automating the setup process of a new Openmoko build environment, it provides an environment which is configured the same for all the existing developers and should therefore be preferred over manual procedures or individual setup procedures.<br /> It brings the same repeatability to build environment creation and maintenance as that which the BitBake scripts bring to [[OpenEmbedded]] ease and standardize the process of building OpenEmbedded.<br /> <br /> Unlike the manual process described at [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], MokoMakefile does not install anything into your system (it can and should be started as normal user).<br /> MokoMakefile is a wrapper around all that is required to make it easy to set up and maintain a development environment that fully complies with the setup instructions published by Openmoko.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is developed by [[User:RodWhitby|Rod Whitby]] - it is not an official product of Openmoko (although I would be happy for them to pick it up and use it internally). If there is any discrepancy between the [[Openmoko2007.2#How_to_build|official Openmoko build instructions]], and the operation of the MokoMakefile, then you should consider the official instructions to be correct.<br /> <br /> The MokoMakefile is able to build both OM-2007.2 and QTopia-X11 images.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile also builds the QEMU-based Neo1973 emulator as part of the build process and has make targets to install the Openmoko images into it and run it. These commands can also be used without downloading and building the whole Openmoko OpenEmbedded distribution. This part is described in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]].<br /> <br /> == Requirements for building Openmoko ==<br /> Independent on whether MokoMakefile or a manual process is used to setup an Openmoko build environment, there are several requirements which must be fulfilled in order for the Openmoko build to succeed:<br /> <br /> * RAM: The build host needs to have at least 512MB of RAM, and about the same amount of swap. Some packages built by OpenEmbedded like busybox are built by compiling all source files into one binary which causes gcc to grow beyond 300MB of size and no part of this memory may be on swap for the compile to finish in predictable time. For busybox, this can be turned off, but turning this off means that busybox will not as well optimized by gcc.<br /> <br /> * Disk space: You need about 12 GB of available disk space for the Openmoko build to succeed (see below for a tip on how to reduce this).<br /> <br /> * Time: The initial build takes at least 5 hours (on 2GHz core2duo without multiprocessor optimization) and may take several days on slower machines.<br /> <br /> === Required software ===<br /> <br /> Some distribution specific hints on preparing your build host for building OpenEmbedded are on http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro but they may be outdated, incomplete and do not cover everything which Openmoko needs to build.<br /> <br /> A good guide is [[Building Openmoko from scratch#Build host prerequisites|the section on build host prerequisites]] in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]]<br /> <br /> If you forgot anything which OE needs itself, OE will tell you shortly after you start building, but it does not check build dependencies of Openmoko, so you either have to install them before starting or install them after the build failed. OpenEmbedded will continue where it stopped when you restart the build afterwards.<br /> <br /> ==== Package requirements by distribution ====<br /> Your distribution needs to provide these commands in order for OpenEmbedded to start building:<br /> subversion texi2html texinfo help2man<br /> <br /> Openmoko needs the development packages (with header files, development libraries and tools) in order to finish building:<br /> ncurses zlib (or libz) OpenSSL GTK++<br /> <br /> Because there are bugs in the interaction of QEMU and GCC-4, you'll need a copy of gcc-3.x installed as well.<br /> <br /> ===== Debian / Ubuntu =====<br /> sudo apt-get install subversion build-essential help2man diffstat texi2html texinfo cvs gawk zip unzip cogito<br /> <br /> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev libssl-dev libgtk2.0-dev <br /> # To prevent errors in host validation<br /> sudo apt-get install ca-certificates<br /> # For Openmoko 2007.2 using BitBake-1.8.8:<br /> sudo apt-get install python-pysqlite2 sqlite3 sqlite3-doc python-pysqlite2-dbg<br /> # For building faster<br /> sudo apt-get install quilt python-psyco ccache<br /> # For qemu, install a second compiler for bug avoidance; MokoMakefile knows to look for it.<br /> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 g++-3.4 libsdl1.2-dev lynx netpbm dosfstools<br /> <br /> # On Ubuntu 8.04, the following was required instead of cogito<br /> sudo apt-get install git-core<br /> # Ubuntu links /bin/sh to /bin/dash, but some scripts fail because they use pushd and popd, which dash does not support<br /> sudo rm /bin/sh<br /> sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh<br /> <br /> # This may be needed only for ASU<br /> sudo apt-get install libxtst-dev<br /> <br /> ===== SuSE =====<br /> For building Openmoko on 10.3, you need<br /> gcc-c++ ncurses-devel zlib-devel libopenssl-devel gtk2-devel subversion diffstat texinfo help2man<br /> For MokoMakefile to not fail on compiling qemu-user, you need to use gcc33:<br /> wget download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/gcc/openSUSE_Factory/i586/{cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> rpm -Uhv {cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> <br /> See also the [[Talk:MokoMakefile#Building_on_SuSE_Linux_10.3-AMD64|Talk page on Building on SuSE Linux 10.3-AMD64]]<br /> <br /> 10.1 and 10.2: same packages as 10.3, but install &lt;code&gt;openssl-devel&lt;/code&gt; instead of libopenssl-devel.<br /> <br /> ==== For all distributions ====<br /> As the QEMU-based neo1973 emulator is also built as part of the build process started by MokoMakefile, so you need gcc-3.3 and other packages for building QEMU installed. See [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile#Build requirements|the build requirements section]] in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]] for information on the required software.<br /> <br /> If you are having problems compiling QEMU and do not need it, you can disable building of QEMU by adding following line to build/conf/local.conf file:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> ===== Proxy =====<br /> Users behind a proxy should ensure that their proxy is configured in their wgetrc file as the http_proxy environment variable is unset by MokoMakefile.<br /> <br /> == Building Openmoko with MokoMakefile ==<br /> <br /> === Preparations ===<br /> Create your $OMDIR directory (note that you can change ~/moko to any directory you like. If you have your ~moko dir mounted from a different file system, be sure to edit /etc/mtab to add the 'exec' permission to the file system, else bitbake will fail with error messages stating that /usr/bin/env is an invalid interpreter):<br /> mkdir ~/moko ; cd ~/moko<br /> <br /> === MokoMakefile ===<br /> Grab MokoMakefile:<br /> wget http://www.rwhitby.net/files/openmoko/Makefile <br /> <br /> If that doesn't work, try <br /> <br /> wget http://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/Makefile<br /> <br /> {{note|MokoMakefile uses BitBake 1.8.8 which requires python-sqlite2 and sqlite-3.3 or later. Users of SUSE Linux 10.1 can update to [http://download.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse/i586/sqlite-3.3.8-14.i586.rpm the version of openSUSE 10.2]}}<br /> <br /> === Environment ===<br /> Set up the environment:<br /> <br /> make setup<br /> <br /> If you want to make the ASU or FSO instead of the OM2007.2, see [[Distributions]], you need to edit your Makefile. Change OM_GIT_BRANCH to one of the following:<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.dev # OM2007.2<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.dev # ASU<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.stable # ASU stable<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openembedded.dev # FSO<br /> <br /> If you are building for the Freerunner GTA02, then also do this<br /> make setup-machine-freerunner<br /> <br /> === Building ===<br /> Before starting a lengthy make process, check the Tips section below for how to make Make multicore aware. You may want to modify the build/conf/local.conf file for your target (emulation/chroot) environment:<br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> (or use &quot;make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image&quot; if you're building the ASU)<br /> (or use &quot;make fso-image&quot; if you're building the FSO)<br /> <br /> ''Hint:'' The images build with this command can be found under {$OMDIR}/build/tmp/deploy/images/neo1973<br /> <br /> This will set up the recommended directory structure as described in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], will download all the required software (from the right places with the right versions), and will immediately start building an image.<br /> <br /> Once you have done this, you can choose to continue using the MokoMakefile to initiate your subsequent builds, or you can go into the build directory and run bitbake commands manually. The choice is yours.<br /> <br /> ==Updating the environment==<br /> For easy maintenance of your build environment the following commands are available.<br /> <br /> 1 - To update the MokoMakefile to the latest version:<br /> make update-makefile <br /> <br /> 2 - To make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied:<br /> make setup <br /> <br /> 3 - To update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version:<br /> make update<br /> <br /> A quick way to rebuild a new image with the latest updates:<br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> ==Build issues==<br /> First, make sure that the problem is reproducible after running<br /> <br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup &amp;&amp; make update<br /> <br /> then run<br /> <br /> make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;<br /> <br /> (where you replace &lt;foo&gt; with the name of the package which is failing)<br /> <br /> and finally<br /> <br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> With luck - you should now have images in your $omdir/build/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ directory.<br /> You can then [[Flashing openmoko||flash these.]]<br /> <br /> <br /> If not, and you can get the error to occur three times in a row after running that sequence of commands (including the update and setup steps) three times, then feel free to report it to rwhitby in #openmoko on [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Development_resources#IRC IRC].<br /> <br /> If you have chronic build problems, cleaning your environment variables and re-running the build from scratch may help. The following script should remove all non-essential variables; you should also manually trim your path to the minimum.<br /> `env | grep -Ev '^SHELL=|^TERM=|^OLDPWD=|^USER=|^USERNAME=|^PATH=|^EDITOR=|^LANG=|^HOME=|^DISPLAY=|^_=' | sed 's/^\(.*\)=.*/unset \1/'`<br /> <br /> (you must include the backtics).<br /> Note that on some boxes it is necessary to call &quot;make&quot; by typing &quot;/usr/bin/make&quot; afterwards.<br /> <br /> <br /> On current ubuntu boxes another trick is necessary:<br /> glibc_2.6.1 fails to build since it is unable to generate the necessary locales until you type in the following line:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=0<br /> Note that this temporarily disables a new security vulnerability check that has entered /etc/sysctrl - but that makes problems with loads of applications.<br /> To re-enable this check do the following:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=65536<br /> See the talk page of this article for more details on this solution.<br /> <br /> ===Known MokoMakefile errors ===<br /> ==== SVN Server Certificate Errors ====<br /> If you get an error like the following:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> NOTE: Fetch svn://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/;module=assassin;proto=https<br /> Error validating server certificate for 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org:443':<br /> - The certificate is not issued by a trusted authority. Use the<br /> fingerprint to validate the certificate manually!<br /> Certificate information:<br /> - Hostname: projects.openmoko.org<br /> - Valid: from Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:02:42 GMT until Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:02:42 GMT<br /> - Issuer: http://www.cacert.org, Root CA<br /> - Fingerprint: a5:7d:4e:37:e8:94:ee:ba:c1:e8:e9:4b:33:cb:34:91:a9:6d:d3:84<br /> (R)eject, accept (t)emporarily or accept (p)ermanently? svn: OPTIONS of 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin': Server certificate verification failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.projects.openmoko.org)<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> It means you haven't yet accepted the server certificate for the SVN server. To remedy this, execute the following commands, and hit &quot;p&quot; (to permanently accept the certificate) when prompted:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> cd /tmp<br /> svn co https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin<br /> rm -rf assassin<br /> cd -<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Fixes for distribution/environment-specific or isolated issues===<br /> <br /> Work-arounds for temporary or isolated problems can be found and should be added to the [[Talk:MokoMakefile|Discussion page]] which is associated with this page. As they are fixed, they will be removed from that page.<br /> <br /> ==Tips==<br /> *Make sure umask is set to 0022 before you run &quot;make setup&quot;<br /> <br /> *You can reduce the amount of consumed disk space significantly by adding<br /> INHERIT += &quot;rm_work&quot;<br /> in your local.conf (e.g. ~/moko/build/conf/local.conf). This will remove the contents of each build/tmp/work/*/&lt;package&gt; directory after the corresponding package builds correctly. As of 10/16/07, this appears to be present in local.conf by default.<br /> <br /> *If a certain package does not build due to corrupted download or some such try to remove the sources and rebuild it.<br /> rm sources/&lt;package&gt;*<br /> cd build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -crebuild &lt;package&gt;<br /> after that your build might just work again.<br /> <br /> *For people with multiple CPU's (or dual-core ones) this small patch might be useful to build things faster.<br /> Edit the local.conf and add the following lines:<br /> PARALLEL_MAKE = &quot;-j 4&quot;<br /> BB_NUMBER_THREADS = &quot;4&quot;<br /> <br /> Change the PARALLEL_MAKE and BB_NUMBER_THREADS values to something that suits better if it chokes your machine.<br /> <br /> * I have some problem with the parallel building, mkfs.jffs failed to build the image because the directory was modify while the building of the fs. [[User:Patrick.hetu|patrick.hetu]] 02:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC) <br /> <br /> * If you encounter an error related with the qemu-native package and not compiling for the qemu, you can edit the build/conf/local.conf file and add ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot; line to avoid the error.<br /> <br /> * To prevent building tons of locales, add a line like this to local.conf:<br /> GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = &quot;en_US.UTF-8 nl_NL.UTF-8&quot;<br /> <br /> * To not build any binary locales at all, add this to local.conf:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> * If you want to rebuild the package indexes (for instance, after compiling a new version of a package) without building &lt;code&gt;openmoko-devel-image&lt;/code&gt;, run &lt;code&gt;make build-package-package-index&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> <br /> [[User:Wurp]] will update this to be a little more comprehensible, but maybe it can help someone as-is in the meantime:<br /> * If MokoMakefile always fails on some fetch in zlib, just find the binary somewhere, add it to the downloads or sources directory manually (create the .md5 matching file if necessary), and retry.<br /> <br /> === Useful commands ===<br /> Here is the list (not complete) of useful MokoMakefile commands (actually make targets) and a short description of each one. These should be run inside $OMDIR directory.<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-image : build the full development image<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-tools : build statically-linked [[dfu-util]] and [[openocd]] binaries<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-toolchain : builds [[toolchain]]<br /> <br /> ; make qemu : builds qemu, downloads flash images from official repository, flashes qemu emulated Neo1973 and runs emulator (see also [[Openmoko under QEMU]]). <br /> <br /> ; make qemu-local : same as ''make qemu'', but uses locally built images instead of official ones.<br /> <br /> ; make run-qemu : runs qemu with usb keyboard ''(note: qemu must first be built!)''. This target starts the emulator with some predefined set of options. If you need to start it with other options (enable telnet, etc), see [[QEMU_command_line]].<br /> <br /> ; make build-package-&lt;package name&gt; : buids ''&lt;package name&gt;'' package<br /> <br /> ; make update-makefile : updates MokoMakefile<br /> <br /> ; make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;: cleans the &quot;&lt;foo&gt;&quot; package<br /> <br /> ; make setup : to make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied<br /> <br /> ; make update : to update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version<br /> <br /> ; make setup-machine-freerunner : setup for GTA02 version of Freerunner<br /> <br /> ==Developing with MokoMakefile==<br /> <br /> {{note|If using MokoMakefile with OM2007.2 then references to $OMDIR/openmoko should be replaced with $OMDIR/openembedded. Also references to tmp/work/armv4t-linux should be replaced with tmp/work/fic-gta01-angstrom-linux-gnueabi}}<br /> <br /> For the following explanations $OMDIR is the directory where there Makefile puts all the stuff.<br /> <br /> To make in-tree changes and have them built and used by qemu:<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko<br /> quilt new descriptive-patch-name.patch<br /> quilt add trunk/src/name-of-file-to-change # do this for every file you are about to modify<br /> ...make the changes...<br /> quilt refresh # this creates a file in $OMDIR/patches/openmoko-HEAD/ and updates the quilt series file there<br /> <br /> Note: Do '''NOT''' use absolute paths as this confuses quilt and will get you a diff of the file against /dev/null!<br /> <br /> To build the changes and have them used by qemu:<br /> <br /> make build-qemu<br /> make flash-qemu-local<br /> make run-qemu<br /> <br /> If you want to modify applications instead of the openmoko toolchain, this is what you have to do (example: openmoko-messages):<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -c unpack openmoko-messages<br /> cd tmp/work/armv4t-linux/openmoko-messages-0.0.1+svnnow-r2_2276/openmoko-messages/<br /> ''...make the changes...''<br /> cd -<br /> bitbake openmoko-messages<br /> <br /> Then continue with MokoMakefile usage.<br /> <br /> If you want to add an application to your openmoko distribution, do this:<br /> All file edits should be done using quilt as described above. That way a patch can easily be submitted to the openmoko project.<br /> First, create a directory that will correspond to your package and edit a '''.bb''' file in there:<br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko/<br /> quilt new mycoolpackage.patch<br /> mkdir trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage<br /> quilt add trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> <br /> The file should have the following content:<br /> DESCRIPTION = &quot;This is a cool package&quot;<br /> SECTION = &quot;username/mycoolpackage&quot;<br /> PV = &quot;1&quot;<br /> <br /> inherit autotools<br /> <br /> SRC_URI = &quot;http://www.example.com/download/mycoolpackage-1.tar.gz&quot;<br /> <br /> Explanation:<br /> * DESCRIPTION - Just a short text explaining the package<br /> * SECTION - I have no clue, but I'll use username/mycoolpackage for now<br /> * PV - Package Version<br /> * inherit autotools - The package can be compiled by './configure &amp;&amp; make &amp;&amp; make install' so we tell MokoMakefile to do it this way.<br /> * SRC_URI = ... - This is the download location of the package source. It's imperative that the tar.gz contains a directory called '''packagename-packageversion''' (in this case: mycoolpackage-1) so that MokoMakefile can find it automatically or the build will fail.<br /> <br /> This is not all. We also need to tell MokoMakfile that it needs to build and include the package in the image. To do this, do<br /> $OMDIR/openmoko# quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb<br /> Here, increase the value '''PR''' by one and add '''mycoolpackage \''' (with the backslash!) just before the line reading '''# update-alternatives \'''.<br /> <br /> Now run<br /> quilt refresh<br /> cd ..<br /> make update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> And if everything's alright you should now have an OpenMoko image to flash to your phone or run in qemu as described above.<br /> <br /> === Hello World application ===<br /> <br /> There is a [[Building a hello world application|Hello World!]] tutorial available too.<br /> <br /> ==Testimonials==<br /> MokoMakefile is recommended by 4 out of 4 new developers on #openmoko, with testimonials such as &quot;For some reason last night I couldn't get my manual install of everything to work (bb complained about my bbpath I think) ... but with your makefile, it works great!&quot;, &quot;MokoMakefile rocks!&quot;, &quot;Wow this build system is nice - it just seems more polished than my gumstix toolchain buildroot system&quot;, and &quot;make openmoko-devel-image :) - no magic there&quot;.<br /> <br /> Project page:<br /> http://mokomakefile.projects.openmoko.org/<br /> <br /> [[Category:Openmoko]]<br /> [[Category:Applications]]<br /> [[Category:Application Developer]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile 2008-07-20T04:35:54Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Useful commands */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Languages|MokoMakefile}}<br /> <br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is a Makefile which saves lots of work when setting up an Openmoko build environment.<br /> By automating the setup process of a new Openmoko build environment, it provides an environment which is configured the same for all the existing developers and should therefore be preferred over manual procedures or individual setup procedures.<br /> It brings the same repeatability to build environment creation and maintenance as that which the BitBake scripts bring to [[OpenEmbedded]] ease and standardize the process of building OpenEmbedded.<br /> <br /> Unlike the manual process described at [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], MokoMakefile does not install anything into your system (it can and should be started as normal user).<br /> MokoMakefile is a wrapper around all that is required to make it easy to set up and maintain a development environment that fully complies with the setup instructions published by Openmoko.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is developed by [[User:RodWhitby|Rod Whitby]] - it is not an official product of Openmoko (although I would be happy for them to pick it up and use it internally). If there is any discrepancy between the [[Openmoko2007.2#How_to_build|official Openmoko build instructions]], and the operation of the MokoMakefile, then you should consider the official instructions to be correct.<br /> <br /> The MokoMakefile is able to build both OM-2007.2 and QTopia-X11 images.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile also builds the QEMU-based Neo1973 emulator as part of the build process and has make targets to install the Openmoko images into it and run it. These commands can also be used without downloading and building the whole Openmoko OpenEmbedded distribution. This part is described in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]].<br /> <br /> == Requirements for building Openmoko ==<br /> Independent on whether MokoMakefile or a manual process is used to setup an Openmoko build environment, there are several requirements which must be fulfilled in order for the Openmoko build to succeed:<br /> <br /> * RAM: The build host needs to have at least 512MB of RAM, and about the same amount of swap. Some packages built by OpenEmbedded like busybox are built by compiling all source files into one binary which causes gcc to grow beyond 300MB of size and no part of this memory may be on swap for the compile to finish in predictable time. For busybox, this can be turned off, but turning this off means that busybox will not as well optimized by gcc.<br /> <br /> * Disk space: You need about 12 GB of available disk space for the Openmoko build to succeed (see below for a tip on how to reduce this).<br /> <br /> * Time: The initial build takes at least 5 hours (on 2GHz core2duo without multiprocessor optimization) and may take several days on slower machines.<br /> <br /> === Required software ===<br /> <br /> Some distribution specific hints on preparing your build host for building OpenEmbedded are on http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro but they may be outdated, incomplete and do not cover everything which Openmoko needs to build.<br /> <br /> A good guide is [[Building Openmoko from scratch#Build host prerequisites|the section on build host prerequisites]] in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]]<br /> <br /> If you forgot anything which OE needs itself, OE will tell you shortly after you start building, but it does not check build dependencies of Openmoko, so you either have to install them before starting or install them after the build failed. OpenEmbedded will continue where it stopped when you restart the build afterwards.<br /> <br /> ==== Package requirements by distribution ====<br /> Your distribution needs to provide these commands in order for OpenEmbedded to start building:<br /> subversion texi2html texinfo help2man<br /> <br /> Openmoko needs the development packages (with header files, development libraries and tools) in order to finish building:<br /> ncurses zlib (or libz) OpenSSL GTK++<br /> <br /> Because there are bugs in the interaction of QEMU and GCC-4, you'll need a copy of gcc-3.x installed as well.<br /> <br /> ===== Debian / Ubuntu =====<br /> sudo apt-get install subversion build-essential help2man diffstat texi2html texinfo cvs gawk zip unzip cogito<br /> <br /> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev libssl-dev libgtk2.0-dev <br /> # To prevent errors in host validation<br /> sudo apt-get install ca-certificates<br /> # For Openmoko 2007.2 using BitBake-1.8.8:<br /> sudo apt-get install python-pysqlite2 sqlite3 sqlite3-doc python-pysqlite2-dbg<br /> # For building faster<br /> sudo apt-get install quilt python-psyco ccache<br /> # For qemu, install a second compiler for bug avoidance; MokoMakefile knows to look for it.<br /> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 g++-3.4 libsdl1.2-dev lynx netpbm dosfstools<br /> <br /> # On Ubuntu 8.04, the following was required instead of cogito<br /> sudo apt-get install git-core<br /> # Ubuntu links /bin/sh to /bin/dash, but some scripts fail because they use pushd and popd, which dash does not support<br /> sudo rm /bin/sh<br /> sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh<br /> <br /> # This may be needed only for ASU<br /> sudo apt-get install libxtst-dev<br /> <br /> ===== SuSE =====<br /> For building Openmoko on 10.3, you need<br /> gcc-c++ ncurses-devel zlib-devel libopenssl-devel gtk2-devel subversion diffstat texinfo help2man<br /> For MokoMakefile to not fail on compiling qemu-user, you need to use gcc33:<br /> wget download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/gcc/openSUSE_Factory/i586/{cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> rpm -Uhv {cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> <br /> See also the [[Talk:MokoMakefile#Building_on_SuSE_Linux_10.3-AMD64|Talk page on Building on SuSE Linux 10.3-AMD64]]<br /> <br /> 10.1 and 10.2: same packages as 10.3, but install &lt;code&gt;openssl-devel&lt;/code&gt; instead of libopenssl-devel.<br /> <br /> ==== For all distributions ====<br /> As the QEMU-based neo1973 emulator is also built as part of the build process started by MokoMakefile, so you need gcc-3.3 and other packages for building QEMU installed. See [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile#Build requirements|the build requirements section]] in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]] for information on the required software.<br /> <br /> If you are having problems compiling QEMU and do not need it, you can disable building of QEMU by adding following line to build/conf/local.conf file:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> ===== Proxy =====<br /> Users behind a proxy should ensure that their proxy is configured in their wgetrc file as the http_proxy environment variable is unset by MokoMakefile.<br /> <br /> == Building Openmoko with MokoMakefile ==<br /> <br /> === Preparations ===<br /> Create your $OMDIR directory (note that you can change ~/moko to any directory you like. If you have your ~moko dir mounted from a different file system, be sure to edit /etc/mtab to add the 'exec' permission to the file system, else bitbake will fail with error messages stating that /usr/bin/env is an invalid interpreter):<br /> mkdir ~/moko ; cd ~/moko<br /> <br /> === MokoMakefile ===<br /> Grab MokoMakefile:<br /> wget http://www.rwhitby.net/files/openmoko/Makefile <br /> <br /> If that doesn't work, try <br /> <br /> wget http://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/Makefile<br /> <br /> {{note|MokoMakefile uses BitBake 1.8.8 which requires python-sqlite2 and sqlite-3.3 or later. Users of SUSE Linux 10.1 can update to [http://download.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse/i586/sqlite-3.3.8-14.i586.rpm the version of openSUSE 10.2]}}<br /> <br /> === Environment ===<br /> Set up the environment:<br /> <br /> make setup<br /> <br /> If you want to make the ASU or FSO instead of the OM2007.2, see [[Distributions]], you need to edit your Makefile. Change OM_GIT_BRANCH to one of the following:<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.dev # OM2007.2<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.dev # ASU<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.stable # ASU stable<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openembedded.dev # FSO<br /> <br /> If you are building for the Freerunner GTA02, then also do this<br /> make setup-machine-freerunner<br /> <br /> === Building ===<br /> Before starting a lengthy make process, check the Tips section below for how to make Make multicore aware. You may want to modify the build/conf/local.conf file for your target (emulation/chroot) environment:<br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> (or use &quot;make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image&quot; if you're building the ASU)<br /> (or use &quot;make fso-image&quot; if you're building the FSO)<br /> <br /> ''Hint:'' The images build with this command can be found under {$OMDIR}/build/tmp/deploy/images/neo1973<br /> <br /> This will set up the recommended directory structure as described in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], will download all the required software (from the right places with the right versions), and will immediately start building an image.<br /> <br /> Once you have done this, you can choose to continue using the MokoMakefile to initiate your subsequent builds, or you can go into the build directory and run bitbake commands manually. The choice is yours.<br /> <br /> ==Updating the environment==<br /> For easy maintenance of your build environment the following commands are available.<br /> <br /> 1 - To update the MokoMakefile to the latest version:<br /> make update-makefile <br /> <br /> 2 - To make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied:<br /> make setup <br /> <br /> 3 - To update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version:<br /> make update<br /> <br /> A quick way to rebuild a new image with the latest updates:<br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> ==Build issues==<br /> First, make sure that the problem is reproducible after running<br /> <br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup &amp;&amp; make update<br /> <br /> then run<br /> <br /> make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;<br /> <br /> (where you replace &lt;foo&gt; with the name of the package which is failing)<br /> <br /> and finally<br /> <br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> With luck - you should now have images in your $omdir/build/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ directory.<br /> You can then [[Flashing openmoko||flash these.]]<br /> <br /> <br /> If not, and you can get the error to occur three times in a row after running that sequence of commands (including the update and setup steps) three times, then feel free to report it to rwhitby in #openmoko on [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Development_resources#IRC IRC].<br /> <br /> If you have chronic build problems, cleaning your environment variables and re-running the build from scratch may help. The following script should remove all non-essential variables; you should also manually trim your path to the minimum.<br /> `env | grep -Ev '^SHELL=|^TERM=|^OLDPWD=|^USER=|^USERNAME=|^PATH=|^EDITOR=|^LANG=|^HOME=|^DISPLAY=|^_=' | sed 's/^\(.*\)=.*/unset \1/'`<br /> <br /> (you must include the backtics).<br /> Note that on some boxes it is necessary to call &quot;make&quot; by typing &quot;/usr/bin/make&quot; afterwards.<br /> <br /> <br /> On current ubuntu boxes another trick is necessary:<br /> glibc_2.6.1 fails to build since it is unable to generate the necessary locales until you type in the following line:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=0<br /> Note that this temporarily disables a new security vulnerability check that has entered /etc/sysctrl - but that makes problems with loads of applications.<br /> To re-enable this check do the following:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=65536<br /> See the talk page of this article for more details on this solution.<br /> <br /> ===Known MokoMakefile errors ===<br /> ==== SVN Server Certificate Errors ====<br /> If you get an error like the following:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> NOTE: Fetch svn://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/;module=assassin;proto=https<br /> Error validating server certificate for 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org:443':<br /> - The certificate is not issued by a trusted authority. Use the<br /> fingerprint to validate the certificate manually!<br /> Certificate information:<br /> - Hostname: projects.openmoko.org<br /> - Valid: from Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:02:42 GMT until Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:02:42 GMT<br /> - Issuer: http://www.cacert.org, Root CA<br /> - Fingerprint: a5:7d:4e:37:e8:94:ee:ba:c1:e8:e9:4b:33:cb:34:91:a9:6d:d3:84<br /> (R)eject, accept (t)emporarily or accept (p)ermanently? svn: OPTIONS of 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin': Server certificate verification failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.projects.openmoko.org)<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> It means you haven't yet accepted the server certificate for the SVN server. To remedy this, execute the following commands, and hit &quot;p&quot; (to permanently accept the certificate) when prompted:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> cd /tmp<br /> svn co https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin<br /> rm -rf assassin<br /> cd -<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Fixes for distribution/environment-specific or isolated issues===<br /> <br /> Work-arounds for temporary or isolated problems can be found and should be added to the [[Talk:MokoMakefile|Discussion page]] which is associated with this page. As they are fixed, they will be removed from that page.<br /> <br /> ==Tips==<br /> *Make sure umask is set to 0022 before you run &quot;make setup&quot;<br /> <br /> *You can reduce the amount of consumed disk space significantly by adding<br /> INHERIT += &quot;rm_work&quot;<br /> in your local.conf (e.g. ~/moko/build/conf/local.conf). This will remove the contents of each build/tmp/work/*/&lt;package&gt; directory after the corresponding package builds correctly. As of 10/16/07, this appears to be present in local.conf by default.<br /> <br /> *If a certain package does not build due to corrupted download or some such try to remove the sources and rebuild it.<br /> rm sources/&lt;package&gt;*<br /> cd build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -crebuild &lt;package&gt;<br /> after that your build might just work again.<br /> <br /> *For people with multiple CPU's (or dual-core ones) this small patch might be useful to build things faster.<br /> Edit the local.conf and add the following lines:<br /> PARALLEL_MAKE = &quot;-j 4&quot;<br /> BB_NUMBER_THREADS = &quot;4&quot;<br /> <br /> Change the PARALLEL_MAKE and BB_NUMBER_THREADS values to something that suits better if it chokes your machine.<br /> <br /> * I have some problem with the parallel building, mkfs.jffs failed to build the image because the directory was modify while the building of the fs. [[User:Patrick.hetu|patrick.hetu]] 02:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC) <br /> <br /> * If you encounter an error related with the qemu-native package and not compiling for the qemu, you can edit the build/conf/local.conf file and add ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot; line to avoid the error.<br /> <br /> * To prevent building tons of locales, add a line like this to local.conf:<br /> GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = &quot;en_US.UTF-8 nl_NL.UTF-8&quot;<br /> <br /> * To not build any binary locales at all, add this to local.conf:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> * If you want to rebuild the package indexes (for instance, after compiling a new version of a package) without building &lt;code&gt;openmoko-devel-image&lt;/code&gt;, run &lt;code&gt;make build-package-package-index&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> <br /> [[User:Wurp]] will update this to be a little more comprehensible, but maybe it can help someone as-is in the meantime:<br /> * If MokoMakefile always fails on some fetch in zlib, just find the binary somewhere, add it to the downloads or sources directory manually (create the .md5 matching file if necessary), and retry.<br /> <br /> === Useful commands ===<br /> Here is the list (not complete) of useful MokoMakefile commands (actually make targets) and a short description of each one. These should be run inside $OMDIR directory.<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-image : build the full development image<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-tools : build statically-linked [[dfu-util]] and [[openocd]] binaries<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-toolchain : builds [[toolchain]]<br /> <br /> ; make qemu : builds qemu, downloads flash images from official repository, flashes qemu emulated Neo1973 and runs emulator (see also [[Openmoko under QEMU]]). <br /> <br /> ; make qemu-local : same as ''make qemu'', but uses locally built images instead of official ones.<br /> <br /> ; make run-qemu : runs qemu with usb keyboard ''(note: qemu must first be built!)''. This target starts the emulator with some predefined set of options. If you need to start it with other options (enable telnet, etc), see [[QEMU_command_line]].<br /> <br /> ; make build-package-&lt;package name&gt; : buids ''&lt;package name&gt;'' package<br /> <br /> ; make update-makefile : updates MokoMakefile<br /> <br /> ; make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;: cleans the &quot;&lt;foo&gt;&quot; package<br /> <br /> ; make setup : to make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied<br /> <br /> ; make update : to update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version<br /> <br /> : make setup-machine-freerunner : setup for GTA02 version of Freerunner<br /> <br /> ==Developing with MokoMakefile==<br /> <br /> {{note|If using MokoMakefile with OM2007.2 then references to $OMDIR/openmoko should be replaced with $OMDIR/openembedded. Also references to tmp/work/armv4t-linux should be replaced with tmp/work/fic-gta01-angstrom-linux-gnueabi}}<br /> <br /> For the following explanations $OMDIR is the directory where there Makefile puts all the stuff.<br /> <br /> To make in-tree changes and have them built and used by qemu:<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko<br /> quilt new descriptive-patch-name.patch<br /> quilt add trunk/src/name-of-file-to-change # do this for every file you are about to modify<br /> ...make the changes...<br /> quilt refresh # this creates a file in $OMDIR/patches/openmoko-HEAD/ and updates the quilt series file there<br /> <br /> Note: Do '''NOT''' use absolute paths as this confuses quilt and will get you a diff of the file against /dev/null!<br /> <br /> To build the changes and have them used by qemu:<br /> <br /> make build-qemu<br /> make flash-qemu-local<br /> make run-qemu<br /> <br /> If you want to modify applications instead of the openmoko toolchain, this is what you have to do (example: openmoko-messages):<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -c unpack openmoko-messages<br /> cd tmp/work/armv4t-linux/openmoko-messages-0.0.1+svnnow-r2_2276/openmoko-messages/<br /> ''...make the changes...''<br /> cd -<br /> bitbake openmoko-messages<br /> <br /> Then continue with MokoMakefile usage.<br /> <br /> If you want to add an application to your openmoko distribution, do this:<br /> All file edits should be done using quilt as described above. That way a patch can easily be submitted to the openmoko project.<br /> First, create a directory that will correspond to your package and edit a '''.bb''' file in there:<br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko/<br /> quilt new mycoolpackage.patch<br /> mkdir trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage<br /> quilt add trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> <br /> The file should have the following content:<br /> DESCRIPTION = &quot;This is a cool package&quot;<br /> SECTION = &quot;username/mycoolpackage&quot;<br /> PV = &quot;1&quot;<br /> <br /> inherit autotools<br /> <br /> SRC_URI = &quot;http://www.example.com/download/mycoolpackage-1.tar.gz&quot;<br /> <br /> Explanation:<br /> * DESCRIPTION - Just a short text explaining the package<br /> * SECTION - I have no clue, but I'll use username/mycoolpackage for now<br /> * PV - Package Version<br /> * inherit autotools - The package can be compiled by './configure &amp;&amp; make &amp;&amp; make install' so we tell MokoMakefile to do it this way.<br /> * SRC_URI = ... - This is the download location of the package source. It's imperative that the tar.gz contains a directory called '''packagename-packageversion''' (in this case: mycoolpackage-1) so that MokoMakefile can find it automatically or the build will fail.<br /> <br /> This is not all. We also need to tell MokoMakfile that it needs to build and include the package in the image. To do this, do<br /> $OMDIR/openmoko# quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb<br /> Here, increase the value '''PR''' by one and add '''mycoolpackage \''' (with the backslash!) just before the line reading '''# update-alternatives \'''.<br /> <br /> Now run<br /> quilt refresh<br /> cd ..<br /> make update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> And if everything's alright you should now have an OpenMoko image to flash to your phone or run in qemu as described above.<br /> <br /> === Hello World application ===<br /> <br /> There is a [[Building a hello world application|Hello World!]] tutorial available too.<br /> <br /> ==Testimonials==<br /> MokoMakefile is recommended by 4 out of 4 new developers on #openmoko, with testimonials such as &quot;For some reason last night I couldn't get my manual install of everything to work (bb complained about my bbpath I think) ... but with your makefile, it works great!&quot;, &quot;MokoMakefile rocks!&quot;, &quot;Wow this build system is nice - it just seems more polished than my gumstix toolchain buildroot system&quot;, and &quot;make openmoko-devel-image :) - no magic there&quot;.<br /> <br /> Project page:<br /> http://mokomakefile.projects.openmoko.org/<br /> <br /> [[Category:Openmoko]]<br /> [[Category:Applications]]<br /> [[Category:Application Developer]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile 2008-07-20T04:35:03Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Useful commands */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Languages|MokoMakefile}}<br /> <br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is a Makefile which saves lots of work when setting up an Openmoko build environment.<br /> By automating the setup process of a new Openmoko build environment, it provides an environment which is configured the same for all the existing developers and should therefore be preferred over manual procedures or individual setup procedures.<br /> It brings the same repeatability to build environment creation and maintenance as that which the BitBake scripts bring to [[OpenEmbedded]] ease and standardize the process of building OpenEmbedded.<br /> <br /> Unlike the manual process described at [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], MokoMakefile does not install anything into your system (it can and should be started as normal user).<br /> MokoMakefile is a wrapper around all that is required to make it easy to set up and maintain a development environment that fully complies with the setup instructions published by Openmoko.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is developed by [[User:RodWhitby|Rod Whitby]] - it is not an official product of Openmoko (although I would be happy for them to pick it up and use it internally). If there is any discrepancy between the [[Openmoko2007.2#How_to_build|official Openmoko build instructions]], and the operation of the MokoMakefile, then you should consider the official instructions to be correct.<br /> <br /> The MokoMakefile is able to build both OM-2007.2 and QTopia-X11 images.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile also builds the QEMU-based Neo1973 emulator as part of the build process and has make targets to install the Openmoko images into it and run it. These commands can also be used without downloading and building the whole Openmoko OpenEmbedded distribution. This part is described in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]].<br /> <br /> == Requirements for building Openmoko ==<br /> Independent on whether MokoMakefile or a manual process is used to setup an Openmoko build environment, there are several requirements which must be fulfilled in order for the Openmoko build to succeed:<br /> <br /> * RAM: The build host needs to have at least 512MB of RAM, and about the same amount of swap. Some packages built by OpenEmbedded like busybox are built by compiling all source files into one binary which causes gcc to grow beyond 300MB of size and no part of this memory may be on swap for the compile to finish in predictable time. For busybox, this can be turned off, but turning this off means that busybox will not as well optimized by gcc.<br /> <br /> * Disk space: You need about 12 GB of available disk space for the Openmoko build to succeed (see below for a tip on how to reduce this).<br /> <br /> * Time: The initial build takes at least 5 hours (on 2GHz core2duo without multiprocessor optimization) and may take several days on slower machines.<br /> <br /> === Required software ===<br /> <br /> Some distribution specific hints on preparing your build host for building OpenEmbedded are on http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro but they may be outdated, incomplete and do not cover everything which Openmoko needs to build.<br /> <br /> A good guide is [[Building Openmoko from scratch#Build host prerequisites|the section on build host prerequisites]] in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]]<br /> <br /> If you forgot anything which OE needs itself, OE will tell you shortly after you start building, but it does not check build dependencies of Openmoko, so you either have to install them before starting or install them after the build failed. OpenEmbedded will continue where it stopped when you restart the build afterwards.<br /> <br /> ==== Package requirements by distribution ====<br /> Your distribution needs to provide these commands in order for OpenEmbedded to start building:<br /> subversion texi2html texinfo help2man<br /> <br /> Openmoko needs the development packages (with header files, development libraries and tools) in order to finish building:<br /> ncurses zlib (or libz) OpenSSL GTK++<br /> <br /> Because there are bugs in the interaction of QEMU and GCC-4, you'll need a copy of gcc-3.x installed as well.<br /> <br /> ===== Debian / Ubuntu =====<br /> sudo apt-get install subversion build-essential help2man diffstat texi2html texinfo cvs gawk zip unzip cogito<br /> <br /> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev libssl-dev libgtk2.0-dev <br /> # To prevent errors in host validation<br /> sudo apt-get install ca-certificates<br /> # For Openmoko 2007.2 using BitBake-1.8.8:<br /> sudo apt-get install python-pysqlite2 sqlite3 sqlite3-doc python-pysqlite2-dbg<br /> # For building faster<br /> sudo apt-get install quilt python-psyco ccache<br /> # For qemu, install a second compiler for bug avoidance; MokoMakefile knows to look for it.<br /> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 g++-3.4 libsdl1.2-dev lynx netpbm dosfstools<br /> <br /> # On Ubuntu 8.04, the following was required instead of cogito<br /> sudo apt-get install git-core<br /> # Ubuntu links /bin/sh to /bin/dash, but some scripts fail because they use pushd and popd, which dash does not support<br /> sudo rm /bin/sh<br /> sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh<br /> <br /> # This may be needed only for ASU<br /> sudo apt-get install libxtst-dev<br /> <br /> ===== SuSE =====<br /> For building Openmoko on 10.3, you need<br /> gcc-c++ ncurses-devel zlib-devel libopenssl-devel gtk2-devel subversion diffstat texinfo help2man<br /> For MokoMakefile to not fail on compiling qemu-user, you need to use gcc33:<br /> wget download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/gcc/openSUSE_Factory/i586/{cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> rpm -Uhv {cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> <br /> See also the [[Talk:MokoMakefile#Building_on_SuSE_Linux_10.3-AMD64|Talk page on Building on SuSE Linux 10.3-AMD64]]<br /> <br /> 10.1 and 10.2: same packages as 10.3, but install &lt;code&gt;openssl-devel&lt;/code&gt; instead of libopenssl-devel.<br /> <br /> ==== For all distributions ====<br /> As the QEMU-based neo1973 emulator is also built as part of the build process started by MokoMakefile, so you need gcc-3.3 and other packages for building QEMU installed. See [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile#Build requirements|the build requirements section]] in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]] for information on the required software.<br /> <br /> If you are having problems compiling QEMU and do not need it, you can disable building of QEMU by adding following line to build/conf/local.conf file:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> ===== Proxy =====<br /> Users behind a proxy should ensure that their proxy is configured in their wgetrc file as the http_proxy environment variable is unset by MokoMakefile.<br /> <br /> == Building Openmoko with MokoMakefile ==<br /> <br /> === Preparations ===<br /> Create your $OMDIR directory (note that you can change ~/moko to any directory you like. If you have your ~moko dir mounted from a different file system, be sure to edit /etc/mtab to add the 'exec' permission to the file system, else bitbake will fail with error messages stating that /usr/bin/env is an invalid interpreter):<br /> mkdir ~/moko ; cd ~/moko<br /> <br /> === MokoMakefile ===<br /> Grab MokoMakefile:<br /> wget http://www.rwhitby.net/files/openmoko/Makefile <br /> <br /> If that doesn't work, try <br /> <br /> wget http://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/Makefile<br /> <br /> {{note|MokoMakefile uses BitBake 1.8.8 which requires python-sqlite2 and sqlite-3.3 or later. Users of SUSE Linux 10.1 can update to [http://download.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse/i586/sqlite-3.3.8-14.i586.rpm the version of openSUSE 10.2]}}<br /> <br /> === Environment ===<br /> Set up the environment:<br /> <br /> make setup<br /> <br /> If you want to make the ASU or FSO instead of the OM2007.2, see [[Distributions]], you need to edit your Makefile. Change OM_GIT_BRANCH to one of the following:<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.dev # OM2007.2<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.dev # ASU<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.stable # ASU stable<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openembedded.dev # FSO<br /> <br /> If you are building for the Freerunner GTA02, then also do this<br /> make setup-machine-freerunner<br /> <br /> === Building ===<br /> Before starting a lengthy make process, check the Tips section below for how to make Make multicore aware. You may want to modify the build/conf/local.conf file for your target (emulation/chroot) environment:<br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> (or use &quot;make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image&quot; if you're building the ASU)<br /> (or use &quot;make fso-image&quot; if you're building the FSO)<br /> <br /> ''Hint:'' The images build with this command can be found under {$OMDIR}/build/tmp/deploy/images/neo1973<br /> <br /> This will set up the recommended directory structure as described in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], will download all the required software (from the right places with the right versions), and will immediately start building an image.<br /> <br /> Once you have done this, you can choose to continue using the MokoMakefile to initiate your subsequent builds, or you can go into the build directory and run bitbake commands manually. The choice is yours.<br /> <br /> ==Updating the environment==<br /> For easy maintenance of your build environment the following commands are available.<br /> <br /> 1 - To update the MokoMakefile to the latest version:<br /> make update-makefile <br /> <br /> 2 - To make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied:<br /> make setup <br /> <br /> 3 - To update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version:<br /> make update<br /> <br /> A quick way to rebuild a new image with the latest updates:<br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> ==Build issues==<br /> First, make sure that the problem is reproducible after running<br /> <br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup &amp;&amp; make update<br /> <br /> then run<br /> <br /> make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;<br /> <br /> (where you replace &lt;foo&gt; with the name of the package which is failing)<br /> <br /> and finally<br /> <br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> With luck - you should now have images in your $omdir/build/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ directory.<br /> You can then [[Flashing openmoko||flash these.]]<br /> <br /> <br /> If not, and you can get the error to occur three times in a row after running that sequence of commands (including the update and setup steps) three times, then feel free to report it to rwhitby in #openmoko on [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Development_resources#IRC IRC].<br /> <br /> If you have chronic build problems, cleaning your environment variables and re-running the build from scratch may help. The following script should remove all non-essential variables; you should also manually trim your path to the minimum.<br /> `env | grep -Ev '^SHELL=|^TERM=|^OLDPWD=|^USER=|^USERNAME=|^PATH=|^EDITOR=|^LANG=|^HOME=|^DISPLAY=|^_=' | sed 's/^\(.*\)=.*/unset \1/'`<br /> <br /> (you must include the backtics).<br /> Note that on some boxes it is necessary to call &quot;make&quot; by typing &quot;/usr/bin/make&quot; afterwards.<br /> <br /> <br /> On current ubuntu boxes another trick is necessary:<br /> glibc_2.6.1 fails to build since it is unable to generate the necessary locales until you type in the following line:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=0<br /> Note that this temporarily disables a new security vulnerability check that has entered /etc/sysctrl - but that makes problems with loads of applications.<br /> To re-enable this check do the following:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=65536<br /> See the talk page of this article for more details on this solution.<br /> <br /> ===Known MokoMakefile errors ===<br /> ==== SVN Server Certificate Errors ====<br /> If you get an error like the following:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> NOTE: Fetch svn://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/;module=assassin;proto=https<br /> Error validating server certificate for 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org:443':<br /> - The certificate is not issued by a trusted authority. Use the<br /> fingerprint to validate the certificate manually!<br /> Certificate information:<br /> - Hostname: projects.openmoko.org<br /> - Valid: from Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:02:42 GMT until Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:02:42 GMT<br /> - Issuer: http://www.cacert.org, Root CA<br /> - Fingerprint: a5:7d:4e:37:e8:94:ee:ba:c1:e8:e9:4b:33:cb:34:91:a9:6d:d3:84<br /> (R)eject, accept (t)emporarily or accept (p)ermanently? svn: OPTIONS of 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin': Server certificate verification failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.projects.openmoko.org)<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> It means you haven't yet accepted the server certificate for the SVN server. To remedy this, execute the following commands, and hit &quot;p&quot; (to permanently accept the certificate) when prompted:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> cd /tmp<br /> svn co https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin<br /> rm -rf assassin<br /> cd -<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Fixes for distribution/environment-specific or isolated issues===<br /> <br /> Work-arounds for temporary or isolated problems can be found and should be added to the [[Talk:MokoMakefile|Discussion page]] which is associated with this page. As they are fixed, they will be removed from that page.<br /> <br /> ==Tips==<br /> *Make sure umask is set to 0022 before you run &quot;make setup&quot;<br /> <br /> *You can reduce the amount of consumed disk space significantly by adding<br /> INHERIT += &quot;rm_work&quot;<br /> in your local.conf (e.g. ~/moko/build/conf/local.conf). This will remove the contents of each build/tmp/work/*/&lt;package&gt; directory after the corresponding package builds correctly. As of 10/16/07, this appears to be present in local.conf by default.<br /> <br /> *If a certain package does not build due to corrupted download or some such try to remove the sources and rebuild it.<br /> rm sources/&lt;package&gt;*<br /> cd build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -crebuild &lt;package&gt;<br /> after that your build might just work again.<br /> <br /> *For people with multiple CPU's (or dual-core ones) this small patch might be useful to build things faster.<br /> Edit the local.conf and add the following lines:<br /> PARALLEL_MAKE = &quot;-j 4&quot;<br /> BB_NUMBER_THREADS = &quot;4&quot;<br /> <br /> Change the PARALLEL_MAKE and BB_NUMBER_THREADS values to something that suits better if it chokes your machine.<br /> <br /> * I have some problem with the parallel building, mkfs.jffs failed to build the image because the directory was modify while the building of the fs. [[User:Patrick.hetu|patrick.hetu]] 02:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC) <br /> <br /> * If you encounter an error related with the qemu-native package and not compiling for the qemu, you can edit the build/conf/local.conf file and add ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot; line to avoid the error.<br /> <br /> * To prevent building tons of locales, add a line like this to local.conf:<br /> GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = &quot;en_US.UTF-8 nl_NL.UTF-8&quot;<br /> <br /> * To not build any binary locales at all, add this to local.conf:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> * If you want to rebuild the package indexes (for instance, after compiling a new version of a package) without building &lt;code&gt;openmoko-devel-image&lt;/code&gt;, run &lt;code&gt;make build-package-package-index&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> <br /> [[User:Wurp]] will update this to be a little more comprehensible, but maybe it can help someone as-is in the meantime:<br /> * If MokoMakefile always fails on some fetch in zlib, just find the binary somewhere, add it to the downloads or sources directory manually (create the .md5 matching file if necessary), and retry.<br /> <br /> === Useful commands ===<br /> Here is the list (not complete) of useful MokoMakefile commands (actually make targets) and a short description of each one. These should be run inside $OMDIR directory.<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-image : build the full development image<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-tools : build statically-linked [[dfu-util]] and [[openocd]] binaries<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-toolchain : builds [[toolchain]]<br /> <br /> ; make qemu : builds qemu, downloads flash images from official repository, flashes qemu emulated Neo1973 and runs emulator (see also [[Openmoko under QEMU]]). <br /> <br /> ; make qemu-local : same as ''make qemu'', but uses locally built images instead of official ones.<br /> <br /> ; make run-qemu : runs qemu with usb keyboard ''(note: qemu must first be built!)''. This target starts the emulator with some predefined set of options. If you need to start it with other options (enable telnet, etc), see [[QEMU_command_line]].<br /> <br /> ; make build-package-&lt;package name&gt; : buids ''&lt;package name&gt;'' package<br /> <br /> ; make update-makefile : updates MokoMakefile<br /> <br /> ; make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;: cleans the &quot;&lt;foo&gt;&quot; package<br /> <br /> ; make setup : to make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied<br /> <br /> ; make update : to update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version<br /> <br /> : make setup-machine-freerunner : setup for GTA02 versoin of Freerunner<br /> <br /> ==Developing with MokoMakefile==<br /> <br /> {{note|If using MokoMakefile with OM2007.2 then references to $OMDIR/openmoko should be replaced with $OMDIR/openembedded. Also references to tmp/work/armv4t-linux should be replaced with tmp/work/fic-gta01-angstrom-linux-gnueabi}}<br /> <br /> For the following explanations $OMDIR is the directory where there Makefile puts all the stuff.<br /> <br /> To make in-tree changes and have them built and used by qemu:<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko<br /> quilt new descriptive-patch-name.patch<br /> quilt add trunk/src/name-of-file-to-change # do this for every file you are about to modify<br /> ...make the changes...<br /> quilt refresh # this creates a file in $OMDIR/patches/openmoko-HEAD/ and updates the quilt series file there<br /> <br /> Note: Do '''NOT''' use absolute paths as this confuses quilt and will get you a diff of the file against /dev/null!<br /> <br /> To build the changes and have them used by qemu:<br /> <br /> make build-qemu<br /> make flash-qemu-local<br /> make run-qemu<br /> <br /> If you want to modify applications instead of the openmoko toolchain, this is what you have to do (example: openmoko-messages):<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -c unpack openmoko-messages<br /> cd tmp/work/armv4t-linux/openmoko-messages-0.0.1+svnnow-r2_2276/openmoko-messages/<br /> ''...make the changes...''<br /> cd -<br /> bitbake openmoko-messages<br /> <br /> Then continue with MokoMakefile usage.<br /> <br /> If you want to add an application to your openmoko distribution, do this:<br /> All file edits should be done using quilt as described above. That way a patch can easily be submitted to the openmoko project.<br /> First, create a directory that will correspond to your package and edit a '''.bb''' file in there:<br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko/<br /> quilt new mycoolpackage.patch<br /> mkdir trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage<br /> quilt add trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> <br /> The file should have the following content:<br /> DESCRIPTION = &quot;This is a cool package&quot;<br /> SECTION = &quot;username/mycoolpackage&quot;<br /> PV = &quot;1&quot;<br /> <br /> inherit autotools<br /> <br /> SRC_URI = &quot;http://www.example.com/download/mycoolpackage-1.tar.gz&quot;<br /> <br /> Explanation:<br /> * DESCRIPTION - Just a short text explaining the package<br /> * SECTION - I have no clue, but I'll use username/mycoolpackage for now<br /> * PV - Package Version<br /> * inherit autotools - The package can be compiled by './configure &amp;&amp; make &amp;&amp; make install' so we tell MokoMakefile to do it this way.<br /> * SRC_URI = ... - This is the download location of the package source. It's imperative that the tar.gz contains a directory called '''packagename-packageversion''' (in this case: mycoolpackage-1) so that MokoMakefile can find it automatically or the build will fail.<br /> <br /> This is not all. We also need to tell MokoMakfile that it needs to build and include the package in the image. To do this, do<br /> $OMDIR/openmoko# quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb<br /> Here, increase the value '''PR''' by one and add '''mycoolpackage \''' (with the backslash!) just before the line reading '''# update-alternatives \'''.<br /> <br /> Now run<br /> quilt refresh<br /> cd ..<br /> make update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> And if everything's alright you should now have an OpenMoko image to flash to your phone or run in qemu as described above.<br /> <br /> === Hello World application ===<br /> <br /> There is a [[Building a hello world application|Hello World!]] tutorial available too.<br /> <br /> ==Testimonials==<br /> MokoMakefile is recommended by 4 out of 4 new developers on #openmoko, with testimonials such as &quot;For some reason last night I couldn't get my manual install of everything to work (bb complained about my bbpath I think) ... but with your makefile, it works great!&quot;, &quot;MokoMakefile rocks!&quot;, &quot;Wow this build system is nice - it just seems more polished than my gumstix toolchain buildroot system&quot;, and &quot;make openmoko-devel-image :) - no magic there&quot;.<br /> <br /> Project page:<br /> http://mokomakefile.projects.openmoko.org/<br /> <br /> [[Category:Openmoko]]<br /> [[Category:Applications]]<br /> [[Category:Application Developer]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile 2008-07-20T04:33:44Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Environment */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Languages|MokoMakefile}}<br /> <br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is a Makefile which saves lots of work when setting up an Openmoko build environment.<br /> By automating the setup process of a new Openmoko build environment, it provides an environment which is configured the same for all the existing developers and should therefore be preferred over manual procedures or individual setup procedures.<br /> It brings the same repeatability to build environment creation and maintenance as that which the BitBake scripts bring to [[OpenEmbedded]] ease and standardize the process of building OpenEmbedded.<br /> <br /> Unlike the manual process described at [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], MokoMakefile does not install anything into your system (it can and should be started as normal user).<br /> MokoMakefile is a wrapper around all that is required to make it easy to set up and maintain a development environment that fully complies with the setup instructions published by Openmoko.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is developed by [[User:RodWhitby|Rod Whitby]] - it is not an official product of Openmoko (although I would be happy for them to pick it up and use it internally). If there is any discrepancy between the [[Openmoko2007.2#How_to_build|official Openmoko build instructions]], and the operation of the MokoMakefile, then you should consider the official instructions to be correct.<br /> <br /> The MokoMakefile is able to build both OM-2007.2 and QTopia-X11 images.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile also builds the QEMU-based Neo1973 emulator as part of the build process and has make targets to install the Openmoko images into it and run it. These commands can also be used without downloading and building the whole Openmoko OpenEmbedded distribution. This part is described in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]].<br /> <br /> == Requirements for building Openmoko ==<br /> Independent on whether MokoMakefile or a manual process is used to setup an Openmoko build environment, there are several requirements which must be fulfilled in order for the Openmoko build to succeed:<br /> <br /> * RAM: The build host needs to have at least 512MB of RAM, and about the same amount of swap. Some packages built by OpenEmbedded like busybox are built by compiling all source files into one binary which causes gcc to grow beyond 300MB of size and no part of this memory may be on swap for the compile to finish in predictable time. For busybox, this can be turned off, but turning this off means that busybox will not as well optimized by gcc.<br /> <br /> * Disk space: You need about 12 GB of available disk space for the Openmoko build to succeed (see below for a tip on how to reduce this).<br /> <br /> * Time: The initial build takes at least 5 hours (on 2GHz core2duo without multiprocessor optimization) and may take several days on slower machines.<br /> <br /> === Required software ===<br /> <br /> Some distribution specific hints on preparing your build host for building OpenEmbedded are on http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro but they may be outdated, incomplete and do not cover everything which Openmoko needs to build.<br /> <br /> A good guide is [[Building Openmoko from scratch#Build host prerequisites|the section on build host prerequisites]] in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]]<br /> <br /> If you forgot anything which OE needs itself, OE will tell you shortly after you start building, but it does not check build dependencies of Openmoko, so you either have to install them before starting or install them after the build failed. OpenEmbedded will continue where it stopped when you restart the build afterwards.<br /> <br /> ==== Package requirements by distribution ====<br /> Your distribution needs to provide these commands in order for OpenEmbedded to start building:<br /> subversion texi2html texinfo help2man<br /> <br /> Openmoko needs the development packages (with header files, development libraries and tools) in order to finish building:<br /> ncurses zlib (or libz) OpenSSL GTK++<br /> <br /> Because there are bugs in the interaction of QEMU and GCC-4, you'll need a copy of gcc-3.x installed as well.<br /> <br /> ===== Debian / Ubuntu =====<br /> sudo apt-get install subversion build-essential help2man diffstat texi2html texinfo cvs gawk zip unzip cogito<br /> <br /> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev libssl-dev libgtk2.0-dev <br /> # To prevent errors in host validation<br /> sudo apt-get install ca-certificates<br /> # For Openmoko 2007.2 using BitBake-1.8.8:<br /> sudo apt-get install python-pysqlite2 sqlite3 sqlite3-doc python-pysqlite2-dbg<br /> # For building faster<br /> sudo apt-get install quilt python-psyco ccache<br /> # For qemu, install a second compiler for bug avoidance; MokoMakefile knows to look for it.<br /> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 g++-3.4 libsdl1.2-dev lynx netpbm dosfstools<br /> <br /> # On Ubuntu 8.04, the following was required instead of cogito<br /> sudo apt-get install git-core<br /> # Ubuntu links /bin/sh to /bin/dash, but some scripts fail because they use pushd and popd, which dash does not support<br /> sudo rm /bin/sh<br /> sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh<br /> <br /> # This may be needed only for ASU<br /> sudo apt-get install libxtst-dev<br /> <br /> ===== SuSE =====<br /> For building Openmoko on 10.3, you need<br /> gcc-c++ ncurses-devel zlib-devel libopenssl-devel gtk2-devel subversion diffstat texinfo help2man<br /> For MokoMakefile to not fail on compiling qemu-user, you need to use gcc33:<br /> wget download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/gcc/openSUSE_Factory/i586/{cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> rpm -Uhv {cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> <br /> See also the [[Talk:MokoMakefile#Building_on_SuSE_Linux_10.3-AMD64|Talk page on Building on SuSE Linux 10.3-AMD64]]<br /> <br /> 10.1 and 10.2: same packages as 10.3, but install &lt;code&gt;openssl-devel&lt;/code&gt; instead of libopenssl-devel.<br /> <br /> ==== For all distributions ====<br /> As the QEMU-based neo1973 emulator is also built as part of the build process started by MokoMakefile, so you need gcc-3.3 and other packages for building QEMU installed. See [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile#Build requirements|the build requirements section]] in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]] for information on the required software.<br /> <br /> If you are having problems compiling QEMU and do not need it, you can disable building of QEMU by adding following line to build/conf/local.conf file:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> ===== Proxy =====<br /> Users behind a proxy should ensure that their proxy is configured in their wgetrc file as the http_proxy environment variable is unset by MokoMakefile.<br /> <br /> == Building Openmoko with MokoMakefile ==<br /> <br /> === Preparations ===<br /> Create your $OMDIR directory (note that you can change ~/moko to any directory you like. If you have your ~moko dir mounted from a different file system, be sure to edit /etc/mtab to add the 'exec' permission to the file system, else bitbake will fail with error messages stating that /usr/bin/env is an invalid interpreter):<br /> mkdir ~/moko ; cd ~/moko<br /> <br /> === MokoMakefile ===<br /> Grab MokoMakefile:<br /> wget http://www.rwhitby.net/files/openmoko/Makefile <br /> <br /> If that doesn't work, try <br /> <br /> wget http://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/Makefile<br /> <br /> {{note|MokoMakefile uses BitBake 1.8.8 which requires python-sqlite2 and sqlite-3.3 or later. Users of SUSE Linux 10.1 can update to [http://download.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse/i586/sqlite-3.3.8-14.i586.rpm the version of openSUSE 10.2]}}<br /> <br /> === Environment ===<br /> Set up the environment:<br /> <br /> make setup<br /> <br /> If you want to make the ASU or FSO instead of the OM2007.2, see [[Distributions]], you need to edit your Makefile. Change OM_GIT_BRANCH to one of the following:<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.dev # OM2007.2<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.dev # ASU<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.stable # ASU stable<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openembedded.dev # FSO<br /> <br /> If you are building for the Freerunner GTA02, then also do this<br /> make setup-machine-freerunner<br /> <br /> === Building ===<br /> Before starting a lengthy make process, check the Tips section below for how to make Make multicore aware. You may want to modify the build/conf/local.conf file for your target (emulation/chroot) environment:<br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> (or use &quot;make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image&quot; if you're building the ASU)<br /> (or use &quot;make fso-image&quot; if you're building the FSO)<br /> <br /> ''Hint:'' The images build with this command can be found under {$OMDIR}/build/tmp/deploy/images/neo1973<br /> <br /> This will set up the recommended directory structure as described in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], will download all the required software (from the right places with the right versions), and will immediately start building an image.<br /> <br /> Once you have done this, you can choose to continue using the MokoMakefile to initiate your subsequent builds, or you can go into the build directory and run bitbake commands manually. The choice is yours.<br /> <br /> ==Updating the environment==<br /> For easy maintenance of your build environment the following commands are available.<br /> <br /> 1 - To update the MokoMakefile to the latest version:<br /> make update-makefile <br /> <br /> 2 - To make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied:<br /> make setup <br /> <br /> 3 - To update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version:<br /> make update<br /> <br /> A quick way to rebuild a new image with the latest updates:<br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> ==Build issues==<br /> First, make sure that the problem is reproducible after running<br /> <br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup &amp;&amp; make update<br /> <br /> then run<br /> <br /> make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;<br /> <br /> (where you replace &lt;foo&gt; with the name of the package which is failing)<br /> <br /> and finally<br /> <br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> With luck - you should now have images in your $omdir/build/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ directory.<br /> You can then [[Flashing openmoko||flash these.]]<br /> <br /> <br /> If not, and you can get the error to occur three times in a row after running that sequence of commands (including the update and setup steps) three times, then feel free to report it to rwhitby in #openmoko on [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Development_resources#IRC IRC].<br /> <br /> If you have chronic build problems, cleaning your environment variables and re-running the build from scratch may help. The following script should remove all non-essential variables; you should also manually trim your path to the minimum.<br /> `env | grep -Ev '^SHELL=|^TERM=|^OLDPWD=|^USER=|^USERNAME=|^PATH=|^EDITOR=|^LANG=|^HOME=|^DISPLAY=|^_=' | sed 's/^\(.*\)=.*/unset \1/'`<br /> <br /> (you must include the backtics).<br /> Note that on some boxes it is necessary to call &quot;make&quot; by typing &quot;/usr/bin/make&quot; afterwards.<br /> <br /> <br /> On current ubuntu boxes another trick is necessary:<br /> glibc_2.6.1 fails to build since it is unable to generate the necessary locales until you type in the following line:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=0<br /> Note that this temporarily disables a new security vulnerability check that has entered /etc/sysctrl - but that makes problems with loads of applications.<br /> To re-enable this check do the following:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=65536<br /> See the talk page of this article for more details on this solution.<br /> <br /> ===Known MokoMakefile errors ===<br /> ==== SVN Server Certificate Errors ====<br /> If you get an error like the following:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> NOTE: Fetch svn://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/;module=assassin;proto=https<br /> Error validating server certificate for 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org:443':<br /> - The certificate is not issued by a trusted authority. Use the<br /> fingerprint to validate the certificate manually!<br /> Certificate information:<br /> - Hostname: projects.openmoko.org<br /> - Valid: from Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:02:42 GMT until Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:02:42 GMT<br /> - Issuer: http://www.cacert.org, Root CA<br /> - Fingerprint: a5:7d:4e:37:e8:94:ee:ba:c1:e8:e9:4b:33:cb:34:91:a9:6d:d3:84<br /> (R)eject, accept (t)emporarily or accept (p)ermanently? svn: OPTIONS of 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin': Server certificate verification failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.projects.openmoko.org)<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> It means you haven't yet accepted the server certificate for the SVN server. To remedy this, execute the following commands, and hit &quot;p&quot; (to permanently accept the certificate) when prompted:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> cd /tmp<br /> svn co https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin<br /> rm -rf assassin<br /> cd -<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Fixes for distribution/environment-specific or isolated issues===<br /> <br /> Work-arounds for temporary or isolated problems can be found and should be added to the [[Talk:MokoMakefile|Discussion page]] which is associated with this page. As they are fixed, they will be removed from that page.<br /> <br /> ==Tips==<br /> *Make sure umask is set to 0022 before you run &quot;make setup&quot;<br /> <br /> *You can reduce the amount of consumed disk space significantly by adding<br /> INHERIT += &quot;rm_work&quot;<br /> in your local.conf (e.g. ~/moko/build/conf/local.conf). This will remove the contents of each build/tmp/work/*/&lt;package&gt; directory after the corresponding package builds correctly. As of 10/16/07, this appears to be present in local.conf by default.<br /> <br /> *If a certain package does not build due to corrupted download or some such try to remove the sources and rebuild it.<br /> rm sources/&lt;package&gt;*<br /> cd build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -crebuild &lt;package&gt;<br /> after that your build might just work again.<br /> <br /> *For people with multiple CPU's (or dual-core ones) this small patch might be useful to build things faster.<br /> Edit the local.conf and add the following lines:<br /> PARALLEL_MAKE = &quot;-j 4&quot;<br /> BB_NUMBER_THREADS = &quot;4&quot;<br /> <br /> Change the PARALLEL_MAKE and BB_NUMBER_THREADS values to something that suits better if it chokes your machine.<br /> <br /> * I have some problem with the parallel building, mkfs.jffs failed to build the image because the directory was modify while the building of the fs. [[User:Patrick.hetu|patrick.hetu]] 02:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC) <br /> <br /> * If you encounter an error related with the qemu-native package and not compiling for the qemu, you can edit the build/conf/local.conf file and add ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot; line to avoid the error.<br /> <br /> * To prevent building tons of locales, add a line like this to local.conf:<br /> GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = &quot;en_US.UTF-8 nl_NL.UTF-8&quot;<br /> <br /> * To not build any binary locales at all, add this to local.conf:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> * If you want to rebuild the package indexes (for instance, after compiling a new version of a package) without building &lt;code&gt;openmoko-devel-image&lt;/code&gt;, run &lt;code&gt;make build-package-package-index&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> <br /> [[User:Wurp]] will update this to be a little more comprehensible, but maybe it can help someone as-is in the meantime:<br /> * If MokoMakefile always fails on some fetch in zlib, just find the binary somewhere, add it to the downloads or sources directory manually (create the .md5 matching file if necessary), and retry.<br /> <br /> === Useful commands ===<br /> Here is the list (not complete) of useful MokoMakefile commands (actually make targets) and a short description of each one. These should be run inside $OMDIR directory.<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-image : build the full development image<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-tools : build statically-linked [[dfu-util]] and [[openocd]] binaries<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-toolchain : builds [[toolchain]]<br /> <br /> ; make qemu : builds qemu, downloads flash images from official repository, flashes qemu emulated Neo1973 and runs emulator (see also [[Openmoko under QEMU]]). <br /> <br /> ; make qemu-local : same as ''make qemu'', but uses locally built images instead of official ones.<br /> <br /> ; make run-qemu : runs qemu with usb keyboard ''(note: qemu must first be built!)''. This target starts the emulator with some predefined set of options. If you need to start it with other options (enable telnet, etc), see [[QEMU_command_line]].<br /> <br /> ; make build-package-&lt;package name&gt; : buids ''&lt;package name&gt;'' package<br /> <br /> ; make update-makefile : updates MokoMakefile<br /> <br /> ; make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;: cleans the &quot;&lt;foo&gt;&quot; package<br /> <br /> ; make setup : to make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied<br /> <br /> ; make update : to update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version<br /> <br /> ==Developing with MokoMakefile==<br /> <br /> {{note|If using MokoMakefile with OM2007.2 then references to $OMDIR/openmoko should be replaced with $OMDIR/openembedded. Also references to tmp/work/armv4t-linux should be replaced with tmp/work/fic-gta01-angstrom-linux-gnueabi}}<br /> <br /> For the following explanations $OMDIR is the directory where there Makefile puts all the stuff.<br /> <br /> To make in-tree changes and have them built and used by qemu:<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko<br /> quilt new descriptive-patch-name.patch<br /> quilt add trunk/src/name-of-file-to-change # do this for every file you are about to modify<br /> ...make the changes...<br /> quilt refresh # this creates a file in $OMDIR/patches/openmoko-HEAD/ and updates the quilt series file there<br /> <br /> Note: Do '''NOT''' use absolute paths as this confuses quilt and will get you a diff of the file against /dev/null!<br /> <br /> To build the changes and have them used by qemu:<br /> <br /> make build-qemu<br /> make flash-qemu-local<br /> make run-qemu<br /> <br /> If you want to modify applications instead of the openmoko toolchain, this is what you have to do (example: openmoko-messages):<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -c unpack openmoko-messages<br /> cd tmp/work/armv4t-linux/openmoko-messages-0.0.1+svnnow-r2_2276/openmoko-messages/<br /> ''...make the changes...''<br /> cd -<br /> bitbake openmoko-messages<br /> <br /> Then continue with MokoMakefile usage.<br /> <br /> If you want to add an application to your openmoko distribution, do this:<br /> All file edits should be done using quilt as described above. That way a patch can easily be submitted to the openmoko project.<br /> First, create a directory that will correspond to your package and edit a '''.bb''' file in there:<br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko/<br /> quilt new mycoolpackage.patch<br /> mkdir trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage<br /> quilt add trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> <br /> The file should have the following content:<br /> DESCRIPTION = &quot;This is a cool package&quot;<br /> SECTION = &quot;username/mycoolpackage&quot;<br /> PV = &quot;1&quot;<br /> <br /> inherit autotools<br /> <br /> SRC_URI = &quot;http://www.example.com/download/mycoolpackage-1.tar.gz&quot;<br /> <br /> Explanation:<br /> * DESCRIPTION - Just a short text explaining the package<br /> * SECTION - I have no clue, but I'll use username/mycoolpackage for now<br /> * PV - Package Version<br /> * inherit autotools - The package can be compiled by './configure &amp;&amp; make &amp;&amp; make install' so we tell MokoMakefile to do it this way.<br /> * SRC_URI = ... - This is the download location of the package source. It's imperative that the tar.gz contains a directory called '''packagename-packageversion''' (in this case: mycoolpackage-1) so that MokoMakefile can find it automatically or the build will fail.<br /> <br /> This is not all. We also need to tell MokoMakfile that it needs to build and include the package in the image. To do this, do<br /> $OMDIR/openmoko# quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb<br /> Here, increase the value '''PR''' by one and add '''mycoolpackage \''' (with the backslash!) just before the line reading '''# update-alternatives \'''.<br /> <br /> Now run<br /> quilt refresh<br /> cd ..<br /> make update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> And if everything's alright you should now have an OpenMoko image to flash to your phone or run in qemu as described above.<br /> <br /> === Hello World application ===<br /> <br /> There is a [[Building a hello world application|Hello World!]] tutorial available too.<br /> <br /> ==Testimonials==<br /> MokoMakefile is recommended by 4 out of 4 new developers on #openmoko, with testimonials such as &quot;For some reason last night I couldn't get my manual install of everything to work (bb complained about my bbpath I think) ... but with your makefile, it works great!&quot;, &quot;MokoMakefile rocks!&quot;, &quot;Wow this build system is nice - it just seems more polished than my gumstix toolchain buildroot system&quot;, and &quot;make openmoko-devel-image :) - no magic there&quot;.<br /> <br /> Project page:<br /> http://mokomakefile.projects.openmoko.org/<br /> <br /> [[Category:Openmoko]]<br /> [[Category:Applications]]<br /> [[Category:Application Developer]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile 2008-07-20T04:31:16Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Environment */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Languages|MokoMakefile}}<br /> <br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is a Makefile which saves lots of work when setting up an Openmoko build environment.<br /> By automating the setup process of a new Openmoko build environment, it provides an environment which is configured the same for all the existing developers and should therefore be preferred over manual procedures or individual setup procedures.<br /> It brings the same repeatability to build environment creation and maintenance as that which the BitBake scripts bring to [[OpenEmbedded]] ease and standardize the process of building OpenEmbedded.<br /> <br /> Unlike the manual process described at [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], MokoMakefile does not install anything into your system (it can and should be started as normal user).<br /> MokoMakefile is a wrapper around all that is required to make it easy to set up and maintain a development environment that fully complies with the setup instructions published by Openmoko.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile is developed by [[User:RodWhitby|Rod Whitby]] - it is not an official product of Openmoko (although I would be happy for them to pick it up and use it internally). If there is any discrepancy between the [[Openmoko2007.2#How_to_build|official Openmoko build instructions]], and the operation of the MokoMakefile, then you should consider the official instructions to be correct.<br /> <br /> The MokoMakefile is able to build both OM-2007.2 and QTopia-X11 images.<br /> <br /> MokoMakefile also builds the QEMU-based Neo1973 emulator as part of the build process and has make targets to install the Openmoko images into it and run it. These commands can also be used without downloading and building the whole Openmoko OpenEmbedded distribution. This part is described in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]].<br /> <br /> == Requirements for building Openmoko ==<br /> Independent on whether MokoMakefile or a manual process is used to setup an Openmoko build environment, there are several requirements which must be fulfilled in order for the Openmoko build to succeed:<br /> <br /> * RAM: The build host needs to have at least 512MB of RAM, and about the same amount of swap. Some packages built by OpenEmbedded like busybox are built by compiling all source files into one binary which causes gcc to grow beyond 300MB of size and no part of this memory may be on swap for the compile to finish in predictable time. For busybox, this can be turned off, but turning this off means that busybox will not as well optimized by gcc.<br /> <br /> * Disk space: You need about 12 GB of available disk space for the Openmoko build to succeed (see below for a tip on how to reduce this).<br /> <br /> * Time: The initial build takes at least 5 hours (on 2GHz core2duo without multiprocessor optimization) and may take several days on slower machines.<br /> <br /> === Required software ===<br /> <br /> Some distribution specific hints on preparing your build host for building OpenEmbedded are on http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro but they may be outdated, incomplete and do not cover everything which Openmoko needs to build.<br /> <br /> A good guide is [[Building Openmoko from scratch#Build host prerequisites|the section on build host prerequisites]] in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]]<br /> <br /> If you forgot anything which OE needs itself, OE will tell you shortly after you start building, but it does not check build dependencies of Openmoko, so you either have to install them before starting or install them after the build failed. OpenEmbedded will continue where it stopped when you restart the build afterwards.<br /> <br /> ==== Package requirements by distribution ====<br /> Your distribution needs to provide these commands in order for OpenEmbedded to start building:<br /> subversion texi2html texinfo help2man<br /> <br /> Openmoko needs the development packages (with header files, development libraries and tools) in order to finish building:<br /> ncurses zlib (or libz) OpenSSL GTK++<br /> <br /> Because there are bugs in the interaction of QEMU and GCC-4, you'll need a copy of gcc-3.x installed as well.<br /> <br /> ===== Debian / Ubuntu =====<br /> sudo apt-get install subversion build-essential help2man diffstat texi2html texinfo cvs gawk zip unzip cogito<br /> <br /> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev libssl-dev libgtk2.0-dev <br /> # To prevent errors in host validation<br /> sudo apt-get install ca-certificates<br /> # For Openmoko 2007.2 using BitBake-1.8.8:<br /> sudo apt-get install python-pysqlite2 sqlite3 sqlite3-doc python-pysqlite2-dbg<br /> # For building faster<br /> sudo apt-get install quilt python-psyco ccache<br /> # For qemu, install a second compiler for bug avoidance; MokoMakefile knows to look for it.<br /> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 g++-3.4 libsdl1.2-dev lynx netpbm dosfstools<br /> <br /> # On Ubuntu 8.04, the following was required instead of cogito<br /> sudo apt-get install git-core<br /> # Ubuntu links /bin/sh to /bin/dash, but some scripts fail because they use pushd and popd, which dash does not support<br /> sudo rm /bin/sh<br /> sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh<br /> <br /> # This may be needed only for ASU<br /> sudo apt-get install libxtst-dev<br /> <br /> ===== SuSE =====<br /> For building Openmoko on 10.3, you need<br /> gcc-c++ ncurses-devel zlib-devel libopenssl-devel gtk2-devel subversion diffstat texinfo help2man<br /> For MokoMakefile to not fail on compiling qemu-user, you need to use gcc33:<br /> wget download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/gcc/openSUSE_Factory/i586/{cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> rpm -Uhv {cpp,gcc}33-3.3.3-41.8.i586.rpm<br /> <br /> See also the [[Talk:MokoMakefile#Building_on_SuSE_Linux_10.3-AMD64|Talk page on Building on SuSE Linux 10.3-AMD64]]<br /> <br /> 10.1 and 10.2: same packages as 10.3, but install &lt;code&gt;openssl-devel&lt;/code&gt; instead of libopenssl-devel.<br /> <br /> ==== For all distributions ====<br /> As the QEMU-based neo1973 emulator is also built as part of the build process started by MokoMakefile, so you need gcc-3.3 and other packages for building QEMU installed. See [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile#Build requirements|the build requirements section]] in [[Using QEMU with MokoMakefile]] for information on the required software.<br /> <br /> If you are having problems compiling QEMU and do not need it, you can disable building of QEMU by adding following line to build/conf/local.conf file:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> ===== Proxy =====<br /> Users behind a proxy should ensure that their proxy is configured in their wgetrc file as the http_proxy environment variable is unset by MokoMakefile.<br /> <br /> == Building Openmoko with MokoMakefile ==<br /> <br /> === Preparations ===<br /> Create your $OMDIR directory (note that you can change ~/moko to any directory you like. If you have your ~moko dir mounted from a different file system, be sure to edit /etc/mtab to add the 'exec' permission to the file system, else bitbake will fail with error messages stating that /usr/bin/env is an invalid interpreter):<br /> mkdir ~/moko ; cd ~/moko<br /> <br /> === MokoMakefile ===<br /> Grab MokoMakefile:<br /> wget http://www.rwhitby.net/files/openmoko/Makefile <br /> <br /> If that doesn't work, try <br /> <br /> wget http://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/Makefile<br /> <br /> {{note|MokoMakefile uses BitBake 1.8.8 which requires python-sqlite2 and sqlite-3.3 or later. Users of SUSE Linux 10.1 can update to [http://download.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse/i586/sqlite-3.3.8-14.i586.rpm the version of openSUSE 10.2]}}<br /> <br /> === Environment ===<br /> Set up the environment:<br /> <br /> make setup<br /> <br /> If you want to make the ASU or FSO instead of the OM2007.2, see [[Distributions]], you need to edit your Makefile. Change OM_GIT_BRANCH to one of the following:<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.dev # OM2007.2<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.dev # ASU<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.stable # ASU stable<br /> OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openembedded.dev # FSO<br /> <br /> If you are building for the Freerunner GTA02, then do this<br /> make setup-machine-freerunner<br /> <br /> === Building ===<br /> Before starting a lengthy make process, check the Tips section below for how to make Make multicore aware. You may want to modify the build/conf/local.conf file for your target (emulation/chroot) environment:<br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> (or use &quot;make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image&quot; if you're building the ASU)<br /> (or use &quot;make fso-image&quot; if you're building the FSO)<br /> <br /> ''Hint:'' The images build with this command can be found under {$OMDIR}/build/tmp/deploy/images/neo1973<br /> <br /> This will set up the recommended directory structure as described in [[Building Openmoko from scratch]], will download all the required software (from the right places with the right versions), and will immediately start building an image.<br /> <br /> Once you have done this, you can choose to continue using the MokoMakefile to initiate your subsequent builds, or you can go into the build directory and run bitbake commands manually. The choice is yours.<br /> <br /> ==Updating the environment==<br /> For easy maintenance of your build environment the following commands are available.<br /> <br /> 1 - To update the MokoMakefile to the latest version:<br /> make update-makefile <br /> <br /> 2 - To make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied:<br /> make setup <br /> <br /> 3 - To update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version:<br /> make update<br /> <br /> A quick way to rebuild a new image with the latest updates:<br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> ==Build issues==<br /> First, make sure that the problem is reproducible after running<br /> <br /> make update-makefile &amp;&amp; make setup &amp;&amp; make update<br /> <br /> then run<br /> <br /> make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;<br /> <br /> (where you replace &lt;foo&gt; with the name of the package which is failing)<br /> <br /> and finally<br /> <br /> make openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> With luck - you should now have images in your $omdir/build/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ directory.<br /> You can then [[Flashing openmoko||flash these.]]<br /> <br /> <br /> If not, and you can get the error to occur three times in a row after running that sequence of commands (including the update and setup steps) three times, then feel free to report it to rwhitby in #openmoko on [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Development_resources#IRC IRC].<br /> <br /> If you have chronic build problems, cleaning your environment variables and re-running the build from scratch may help. The following script should remove all non-essential variables; you should also manually trim your path to the minimum.<br /> `env | grep -Ev '^SHELL=|^TERM=|^OLDPWD=|^USER=|^USERNAME=|^PATH=|^EDITOR=|^LANG=|^HOME=|^DISPLAY=|^_=' | sed 's/^\(.*\)=.*/unset \1/'`<br /> <br /> (you must include the backtics).<br /> Note that on some boxes it is necessary to call &quot;make&quot; by typing &quot;/usr/bin/make&quot; afterwards.<br /> <br /> <br /> On current ubuntu boxes another trick is necessary:<br /> glibc_2.6.1 fails to build since it is unable to generate the necessary locales until you type in the following line:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=0<br /> Note that this temporarily disables a new security vulnerability check that has entered /etc/sysctrl - but that makes problems with loads of applications.<br /> To re-enable this check do the following:<br /> sudo sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr=65536<br /> See the talk page of this article for more details on this solution.<br /> <br /> ===Known MokoMakefile errors ===<br /> ==== SVN Server Certificate Errors ====<br /> If you get an error like the following:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> NOTE: Fetch svn://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/;module=assassin;proto=https<br /> Error validating server certificate for 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org:443':<br /> - The certificate is not issued by a trusted authority. Use the<br /> fingerprint to validate the certificate manually!<br /> Certificate information:<br /> - Hostname: projects.openmoko.org<br /> - Valid: from Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:02:42 GMT until Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:02:42 GMT<br /> - Issuer: http://www.cacert.org, Root CA<br /> - Fingerprint: a5:7d:4e:37:e8:94:ee:ba:c1:e8:e9:4b:33:cb:34:91:a9:6d:d3:84<br /> (R)eject, accept (t)emporarily or accept (p)ermanently? svn: OPTIONS of 'https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin': Server certificate verification failed: issuer is not trusted (https://svn.projects.openmoko.org)<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> It means you haven't yet accepted the server certificate for the SVN server. To remedy this, execute the following commands, and hit &quot;p&quot; (to permanently accept the certificate) when prompted:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> cd /tmp<br /> svn co https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/assassin<br /> rm -rf assassin<br /> cd -<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Fixes for distribution/environment-specific or isolated issues===<br /> <br /> Work-arounds for temporary or isolated problems can be found and should be added to the [[Talk:MokoMakefile|Discussion page]] which is associated with this page. As they are fixed, they will be removed from that page.<br /> <br /> ==Tips==<br /> *Make sure umask is set to 0022 before you run &quot;make setup&quot;<br /> <br /> *You can reduce the amount of consumed disk space significantly by adding<br /> INHERIT += &quot;rm_work&quot;<br /> in your local.conf (e.g. ~/moko/build/conf/local.conf). This will remove the contents of each build/tmp/work/*/&lt;package&gt; directory after the corresponding package builds correctly. As of 10/16/07, this appears to be present in local.conf by default.<br /> <br /> *If a certain package does not build due to corrupted download or some such try to remove the sources and rebuild it.<br /> rm sources/&lt;package&gt;*<br /> cd build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -crebuild &lt;package&gt;<br /> after that your build might just work again.<br /> <br /> *For people with multiple CPU's (or dual-core ones) this small patch might be useful to build things faster.<br /> Edit the local.conf and add the following lines:<br /> PARALLEL_MAKE = &quot;-j 4&quot;<br /> BB_NUMBER_THREADS = &quot;4&quot;<br /> <br /> Change the PARALLEL_MAKE and BB_NUMBER_THREADS values to something that suits better if it chokes your machine.<br /> <br /> * I have some problem with the parallel building, mkfs.jffs failed to build the image because the directory was modify while the building of the fs. [[User:Patrick.hetu|patrick.hetu]] 02:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC) <br /> <br /> * If you encounter an error related with the qemu-native package and not compiling for the qemu, you can edit the build/conf/local.conf file and add ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot; line to avoid the error.<br /> <br /> * To prevent building tons of locales, add a line like this to local.conf:<br /> GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = &quot;en_US.UTF-8 nl_NL.UTF-8&quot;<br /> <br /> * To not build any binary locales at all, add this to local.conf:<br /> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = &quot;0&quot;<br /> <br /> * If you want to rebuild the package indexes (for instance, after compiling a new version of a package) without building &lt;code&gt;openmoko-devel-image&lt;/code&gt;, run &lt;code&gt;make build-package-package-index&lt;/code&gt;.<br /> <br /> [[User:Wurp]] will update this to be a little more comprehensible, but maybe it can help someone as-is in the meantime:<br /> * If MokoMakefile always fails on some fetch in zlib, just find the binary somewhere, add it to the downloads or sources directory manually (create the .md5 matching file if necessary), and retry.<br /> <br /> === Useful commands ===<br /> Here is the list (not complete) of useful MokoMakefile commands (actually make targets) and a short description of each one. These should be run inside $OMDIR directory.<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-image : build the full development image<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-devel-tools : build statically-linked [[dfu-util]] and [[openocd]] binaries<br /> <br /> ; make openmoko-toolchain : builds [[toolchain]]<br /> <br /> ; make qemu : builds qemu, downloads flash images from official repository, flashes qemu emulated Neo1973 and runs emulator (see also [[Openmoko under QEMU]]). <br /> <br /> ; make qemu-local : same as ''make qemu'', but uses locally built images instead of official ones.<br /> <br /> ; make run-qemu : runs qemu with usb keyboard ''(note: qemu must first be built!)''. This target starts the emulator with some predefined set of options. If you need to start it with other options (enable telnet, etc), see [[QEMU_command_line]].<br /> <br /> ; make build-package-&lt;package name&gt; : buids ''&lt;package name&gt;'' package<br /> <br /> ; make update-makefile : updates MokoMakefile<br /> <br /> ; make clean-package-&lt;foo&gt;: cleans the &quot;&lt;foo&gt;&quot; package<br /> <br /> ; make setup : to make sure that any recent changes to the build directory structure have been applied<br /> <br /> ; make update : to update the Openmoko repository checkout and the MokoMakefile patches to the latest version<br /> <br /> ==Developing with MokoMakefile==<br /> <br /> {{note|If using MokoMakefile with OM2007.2 then references to $OMDIR/openmoko should be replaced with $OMDIR/openembedded. Also references to tmp/work/armv4t-linux should be replaced with tmp/work/fic-gta01-angstrom-linux-gnueabi}}<br /> <br /> For the following explanations $OMDIR is the directory where there Makefile puts all the stuff.<br /> <br /> To make in-tree changes and have them built and used by qemu:<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko<br /> quilt new descriptive-patch-name.patch<br /> quilt add trunk/src/name-of-file-to-change # do this for every file you are about to modify<br /> ...make the changes...<br /> quilt refresh # this creates a file in $OMDIR/patches/openmoko-HEAD/ and updates the quilt series file there<br /> <br /> Note: Do '''NOT''' use absolute paths as this confuses quilt and will get you a diff of the file against /dev/null!<br /> <br /> To build the changes and have them used by qemu:<br /> <br /> make build-qemu<br /> make flash-qemu-local<br /> make run-qemu<br /> <br /> If you want to modify applications instead of the openmoko toolchain, this is what you have to do (example: openmoko-messages):<br /> <br /> cd $OMDIR/build<br /> . ../setup-env<br /> bitbake -c unpack openmoko-messages<br /> cd tmp/work/armv4t-linux/openmoko-messages-0.0.1+svnnow-r2_2276/openmoko-messages/<br /> ''...make the changes...''<br /> cd -<br /> bitbake openmoko-messages<br /> <br /> Then continue with MokoMakefile usage.<br /> <br /> If you want to add an application to your openmoko distribution, do this:<br /> All file edits should be done using quilt as described above. That way a patch can easily be submitted to the openmoko project.<br /> First, create a directory that will correspond to your package and edit a '''.bb''' file in there:<br /> cd $OMDIR/openmoko/<br /> quilt new mycoolpackage.patch<br /> mkdir trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage<br /> quilt add trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/mycoolpackage/mycoolpackage_1.bb<br /> <br /> The file should have the following content:<br /> DESCRIPTION = &quot;This is a cool package&quot;<br /> SECTION = &quot;username/mycoolpackage&quot;<br /> PV = &quot;1&quot;<br /> <br /> inherit autotools<br /> <br /> SRC_URI = &quot;http://www.example.com/download/mycoolpackage-1.tar.gz&quot;<br /> <br /> Explanation:<br /> * DESCRIPTION - Just a short text explaining the package<br /> * SECTION - I have no clue, but I'll use username/mycoolpackage for now<br /> * PV - Package Version<br /> * inherit autotools - The package can be compiled by './configure &amp;&amp; make &amp;&amp; make install' so we tell MokoMakefile to do it this way.<br /> * SRC_URI = ... - This is the download location of the package source. It's imperative that the tar.gz contains a directory called '''packagename-packageversion''' (in this case: mycoolpackage-1) so that MokoMakefile can find it automatically or the build will fail.<br /> <br /> This is not all. We also need to tell MokoMakfile that it needs to build and include the package in the image. To do this, do<br /> $OMDIR/openmoko# quilt edit trunk/openembedded/packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb<br /> Here, increase the value '''PR''' by one and add '''mycoolpackage \''' (with the backslash!) just before the line reading '''# update-alternatives \'''.<br /> <br /> Now run<br /> quilt refresh<br /> cd ..<br /> make update openmoko-devel-image<br /> <br /> And if everything's alright you should now have an OpenMoko image to flash to your phone or run in qemu as described above.<br /> <br /> === Hello World application ===<br /> <br /> There is a [[Building a hello world application|Hello World!]] tutorial available too.<br /> <br /> ==Testimonials==<br /> MokoMakefile is recommended by 4 out of 4 new developers on #openmoko, with testimonials such as &quot;For some reason last night I couldn't get my manual install of everything to work (bb complained about my bbpath I think) ... but with your makefile, it works great!&quot;, &quot;MokoMakefile rocks!&quot;, &quot;Wow this build system is nice - it just seems more polished than my gumstix toolchain buildroot system&quot;, and &quot;make openmoko-devel-image :) - no magic there&quot;.<br /> <br /> Project page:<br /> http://mokomakefile.projects.openmoko.org/<br /> <br /> [[Category:Openmoko]]<br /> [[Category:Applications]]<br /> [[Category:Application Developer]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi 2008-07-16T19:30:17Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Comments */</p> <hr /> <div>To get wlan working on your Freerunner, you can follow these steps:<br /> <br /> 1. create and edit a suitable /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf (use your favourite search engine to find the syntax)<br /> <br /> 2. execute `ifup eth0`<br /> <br /> 3. execute `wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B` (-B for running as daemon)<br /> <br /> 4. get a IP via dhcp: `udhcpc eth0`<br /> <br /> That's it, your wlan should now work!<br /> <br /> == Known good wpa-supplicant version? ==<br /> <br /> Is the 0.6.3-r1 broken? I don't get anything to work with these instructions via usage of wpa_supplicant, but WEP works via direct interfaces changes (wireless-essid/wireless-key settings).<br /> <br /> == Sample wpa_supplicant.conf ==<br /> <br /> ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant<br /> eapol_version=1<br /> ap_scan=1<br /> <br /> # WPA2:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your ssid&quot;<br /> scan_ssid=1<br /> proto=RSN<br /> key_mgmt=WPA-PSK<br /> pairwise=CCMP TKIP<br /> group=TKIP CCMP<br /> psk=&quot;secret key&quot;<br /> priority=50<br /> }<br /> <br /> # WPA:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your_ssid&quot;<br /> scan_ssid=1<br /> psk=&quot;secret key&quot;<br /> priority=10<br /> }<br /> <br /> # WEP:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your_ssid&quot;<br /> scan_ssid=1<br /> key_mgmt=NONE<br /> wep_tx_keyidx=0<br /> wep_key0=&quot;secret key&quot;<br /> priority=8<br /> }<br /> <br /> # Open:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your ssid&quot;<br /> key_mgmt=NONE<br /> priority=5<br /> }<br /> <br /> == A very ugly /etc/init.d/wlan startscript ==<br /> #!/bin/sh<br /> #<br /> # wlan This shell script starts and stops wlan.<br /> #<br /> # processname: wlan<br /> <br /> # Source function library.<br /> #. /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions<br /> # &quot;written&quot; by HdR<br /> <br /> RETVAL=0<br /> prog=&quot;wlan&quot;<br /> <br /> # test -f /etc/default/$prog &amp;&amp; . /etc/default/$prog<br /> <br /> start() {<br /> echo -n &quot;Starting $prog: &quot;<br /> ifconfig eth0 up<br /> wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B<br /> sleep 10<br /> udhcpc eth0<br /> RETVAL=$?<br /> return $RETVAL<br /> }<br /> <br /> stop() {<br /> # Stop daemons.<br /> echo -n &quot;Shutting down $prog: &quot;<br /> killall wpa_supplicant<br /> ifconfig eth0 down<br /> # killproc gpsd<br /> RETVAL=$?<br /> return $RETVAL<br /> }<br /> <br /> # See how we were called.<br /> case &quot;$1&quot; in<br /> start)<br /> start<br /> ;;<br /> stop)<br /> stop<br /> ;;<br /> restart|reload)<br /> stop<br /> start<br /> RETVAL=$?<br /> ;;<br /> *)<br /> echo &quot;Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}&quot;<br /> exit 1<br /> esac<br /> <br /> exit $RETVAL<br /> <br /> == An alternative way to automate ==<br /> Add the wpa_supplicant details to /etc/network/interfaces:<br /> <br /> iface eth0 inet dhcp<br /> wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf<br /> <br /> Now `ifup eth0` will start up wpa_supplicant and udhcpc for you, and `ifdown eth0` will stop them, in theory at least. In practise udhcpc can time out before wpa_supplicant has finished connecting to the access point, and if udhcpc has failed to get an address ifdown exits without stopping wpa_supplicant and bringing down the interface.<br /> <br /> == Comments ==<br /> <br /> The alternative method seems to work reliably on the FR/ GTA02, I couldn't get the manual method to work when WPA/PSK is involved. Also you must do ifdown usb0 before the ifup eth0. Then you also need to setup the resolv.conf manually as it does not seem to get the dns server from the dhcp server. If the dhcp fails during ifup eth0, then you can run udhcpc eth0 manually it usually gets the dhcp address the second time around.<br /> <br /> I use a script called u...<br /> # u<br /> ifdown usb0<br /> ifup eth0 <br /> echo nameserver xx.xx.xx.xx &gt;/etc/resolv.conf<br /> <br /> This usually works<br /> <br /> [[Category:GTA02 Hardware]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi 2008-07-16T19:29:33Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Comments */</p> <hr /> <div>To get wlan working on your Freerunner, you can follow these steps:<br /> <br /> 1. create and edit a suitable /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf (use your favourite search engine to find the syntax)<br /> <br /> 2. execute `ifup eth0`<br /> <br /> 3. execute `wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B` (-B for running as daemon)<br /> <br /> 4. get a IP via dhcp: `udhcpc eth0`<br /> <br /> That's it, your wlan should now work!<br /> <br /> == Known good wpa-supplicant version? ==<br /> <br /> Is the 0.6.3-r1 broken? I don't get anything to work with these instructions via usage of wpa_supplicant, but WEP works via direct interfaces changes (wireless-essid/wireless-key settings).<br /> <br /> == Sample wpa_supplicant.conf ==<br /> <br /> ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant<br /> eapol_version=1<br /> ap_scan=1<br /> <br /> # WPA2:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your ssid&quot;<br /> scan_ssid=1<br /> proto=RSN<br /> key_mgmt=WPA-PSK<br /> pairwise=CCMP TKIP<br /> group=TKIP CCMP<br /> psk=&quot;secret key&quot;<br /> priority=50<br /> }<br /> <br /> # WPA:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your_ssid&quot;<br /> scan_ssid=1<br /> psk=&quot;secret key&quot;<br /> priority=10<br /> }<br /> <br /> # WEP:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your_ssid&quot;<br /> scan_ssid=1<br /> key_mgmt=NONE<br /> wep_tx_keyidx=0<br /> wep_key0=&quot;secret key&quot;<br /> priority=8<br /> }<br /> <br /> # Open:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your ssid&quot;<br /> key_mgmt=NONE<br /> priority=5<br /> }<br /> <br /> == A very ugly /etc/init.d/wlan startscript ==<br /> #!/bin/sh<br /> #<br /> # wlan This shell script starts and stops wlan.<br /> #<br /> # processname: wlan<br /> <br /> # Source function library.<br /> #. /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions<br /> # &quot;written&quot; by HdR<br /> <br /> RETVAL=0<br /> prog=&quot;wlan&quot;<br /> <br /> # test -f /etc/default/$prog &amp;&amp; . /etc/default/$prog<br /> <br /> start() {<br /> echo -n &quot;Starting $prog: &quot;<br /> ifconfig eth0 up<br /> wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B<br /> sleep 10<br /> udhcpc eth0<br /> RETVAL=$?<br /> return $RETVAL<br /> }<br /> <br /> stop() {<br /> # Stop daemons.<br /> echo -n &quot;Shutting down $prog: &quot;<br /> killall wpa_supplicant<br /> ifconfig eth0 down<br /> # killproc gpsd<br /> RETVAL=$?<br /> return $RETVAL<br /> }<br /> <br /> # See how we were called.<br /> case &quot;$1&quot; in<br /> start)<br /> start<br /> ;;<br /> stop)<br /> stop<br /> ;;<br /> restart|reload)<br /> stop<br /> start<br /> RETVAL=$?<br /> ;;<br /> *)<br /> echo &quot;Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}&quot;<br /> exit 1<br /> esac<br /> <br /> exit $RETVAL<br /> <br /> == An alternative way to automate ==<br /> Add the wpa_supplicant details to /etc/network/interfaces:<br /> <br /> iface eth0 inet dhcp<br /> wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf<br /> <br /> Now `ifup eth0` will start up wpa_supplicant and udhcpc for you, and `ifdown eth0` will stop them, in theory at least. In practise udhcpc can time out before wpa_supplicant has finished connecting to the access point, and if udhcpc has failed to get an address ifdown exits without stopping wpa_supplicant and bringing down the interface.<br /> <br /> == Comments ==<br /> <br /> The alternative method seems to work reliably on the FR/ GTA02, I couldn't get the manual method to work when WPA/PSK is involved. Also you must do ifdown usb0 before the ifup eth0. Then you also need to setup the resolv.conf manually as it does not seem to get the dns server from the dhcp server. If the dhcp fails during ifup eth0, then you can run udhcpc eth0 manually it usually gets the dhcp address the second time around.<br /> <br /> I use a script called u...<br /> # u<br /> ifdown usb0<br /> ifup eth0<br /> echo nameserver xx.xx.xx.xx &gt;/etc/resolv.conf<br /> <br /> This usually works<br /> <br /> [[Category:GTA02 Hardware]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Group_sales 2008-07-14T05:02:24Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* San Francisco Bay Area */</p> <hr /> <div>Openmoko have announced a scheme to sell the forthcoming Neo Freerunner at a discount if bought in multiples of 10 (US$369, instead of 399), to be shipped in one package. Group buying will thus save money on the purchase, and on the shipping. This page is to to organise group purchases by region.<br /> <br /> For calculating shipping costs, the dimensions of one 10-pack is 435mm x 371mm x 119mm. The weight should be around 3kg.<br /> <br /> Steve from Openmoko announced &quot;Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets.&quot;<br /> So join us within a local group !<br /> <br /> &lt;div style='float:right'&gt;__TOC__&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> == [[Group Sales Australia| Australia ]]==<br /> <br /> <br /> == Austria ==<br /> There is a group-buy page at MetaLab, available here: http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko .. we almost have the full 10 slots assigned, and its quite possible that we will order *20* phones, so please register on the Metalab pages and let us know if you're interested .. <br /> <br /> === Salzburg ===<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * D. Kepplinger (at MetaLab)<br /> <br /> === Wien ===<br /> Status: 2/10<br /> * M. Greifeneder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mikegr Contact me here]<br /> * J. Vaughan (torpor) -- http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/torpor Contact me here]<br /> <br /> <br /> === Styria ===<br /> ==== Graz ====<br /> Group 1: Status: 10/10<br /> <br /> * F Hackenberger [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Deadman66 Contact me here]<br /> * J Florineth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Flojoh Contact me here]<br /> * G Michelitsch [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/graf_ithaka Contact me here]<br /> * M Lipp [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Neldoreth Contact me here]<br /> * M Maier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/species Contact me here]<br /> * M Konrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/konni Contact me here]<br /> * K Krammer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krake Contact me here]<br /> * M Prokop [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mika Contact me here]<br /> * C Lauermann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cms Contact me here]<br /> * S Simmer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/StefanS Contact me here]<br /> <br /> Group 2: Status: 4/10<br /> * K Holler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kho Contact me here]<br /> * St Stampler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/stst Contact me here]<br /> * D Pail [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/neotracker Contact me here]<br /> * P Jocham [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Phi01 Contact me here]<br /> <br /> == Belgium ==<br /> === Brussels ===<br /> Status 6/10<br /> <br /> '''NO''' OpenMoko FreeRunner 900/1800 available anymore (on July 3, 2008 at 21h) as needed in Europe. Furthermore,<br /> confirmation: From Pulster.eu: ''Our sales price is 299 EUR + shipping 15 EUR in Europe = 314 EUR. The idea of &quot;open&quot; is ours. So check our price calculation: if you order the Freerunner from Taiwan, it's 399 USD + 100 USD shipping + c. 90 USD &quot;import taxes&quot; inside Europe. Total 589 USD = c.380 EUR. So it will be cheaper and we Europeans have 2 years of warranty when buying from Pulster, instead of a 14 days(?) for imported goods.''<br /> <br /> Cancelled for the above reason (and not 10 people reached) * npettiaux [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Npettiaux Contact me here]<br /> * jwarnier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jwarnier Contact me here]<br /> * mvanderdonck [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nicodache Contact me here]<br /> * lpirotte [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lpirotte Contact me here]<br /> * Ciaran [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ciaran Contact me here]<br /> * Lleonard [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lleonard Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Flanders ===<br /> ==== Aalst/Aarschot/Gent/Brugge ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> * XVens, mailto: xavier DOT vens AT gmail DOT com<br /> * Arno85, mailto: aaron DOT helin AT gmail DOT com, Kortrijk<br /> <br /> * Yvo Brasseur, mailto: yvo_brasseur AT archon DOT be Living in Aarschot, working in Brussels.<br /> * Kamil Kubacki, mailto: kamil DOT kubacki AT gmail DOT com [or kamil.kubacki@gmail.com]<br /> <br /> ps: Dolfje think it will be cheaper to buy it from pulster.de. Can anyone confirm?<br /> <br /> Confirmation: From Pulster.eu:<br /> <br /> Our sales price is 299 EUR. The idea of &quot;open&quot; is ours. So check our price calculation: if you order the Freerunner from Taiwan, it's 399 USD + 100 USD shipping + c. 90 USD &quot;import taxes&quot; inside Europe. Total 589 USD = c.380 EUR.<br /> <br /> So it will be cheaper and we Europeans have 2 years of warranty when buying from Pulster, instead of a 14 days(?) for imported goods.<br /> You can read all advantages on pulster.eu<br /> <br /> ==== Antwerp ====<br /> Status 11/10<br /> <br /> * michielv [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Michielv Contact me here]<br /> * Peter N [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubsy Contact me here]<br /> * Ivo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ivo Contact me here] on holiday from july 18th until august 10th.<br /> * Peter Leemans, mailto: peter AT x-tend DOT be<br /> * Richard B [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/richardb Contact me here]<br /> * Jeroen Van Goey [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BioGeek Contact me here]<br /> * Jeroen D [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jeroendoggen Contact me here]<br /> * Diego Garcia, mailto: didac.garcia AT gmail DOT com<br /> * Sam Geeraerts (Laakdal) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Samgee Contact me here]<br /> * Stefaan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Stefaan Contact me here]<br /> * Bert_2 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bert_2 Contact me here] If they aren't cheaper via Pulster.<br /> * Gaston [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gaston Contact me here]<br /> <br /> Status 1/10<br /> * Jove [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jove Contact me here] I would like a developer board too.<br /> <br /> Perhaps if we have a few more users, we can redistribute the groups geographically?<br /> <br /> === Wallonia ===<br /> ==== Walloon Brabant ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Istvan, mailto: buki DOT istvan AT gmail DOT com<br /> <br /> == Brasil ==<br /> === Nordeste ===<br /> <br /> ==== Ceará ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Alexandre Sousa [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:asm Contact]<br /> ** Endereço para entrega: Fortaleza<br /> <br /> ==== Bahia ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Valessio Brito [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Valessio Contact]<br /> ** Endereço para entrega: Salvador - Bahia<br /> <br /> === Sul ===<br /> ==== Paraná ====<br /> Status: 5/10<br /> * Beraldo Leal [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/beraldo Contact]<br /> * Cleber Santz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Clebersantz Contact]<br /> * Jacson Querubin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Spacial Contact]<br /> ** 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - avançado) <br /> * Mauro Nogueira [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mandcap Contact]<br /> * Osvaldo Santana Neto [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/osantana Contact]<br /> <br /> Tenho endereço de entrega para as seguintes cidades:<br /> * Foz do Iguaçu, PR;<br /> * Cascavel, PR;<br /> * Curitiba, PR;<br /> * São Paulo, SP;<br /> <br /> Valor: Aproximadamente USD 4.100,00 (10 aparelhos + frete UPS). Há também o valor do frete para entrega final para quem não for retirar pessoalmente quando chegar.<br /> <br /> == Bulgaria ==<br /> === Sofia ===<br /> ==== Sofia ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * Dimitar Staykov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OpenMitko Contact] (Pulster)<br /> * Vernim, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vernim Contact]<br /> * Geo, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/geomer Contact]<br /> * Iceman, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ice Contact], 02 July 2008 ([http://www.pulster.de/engl/openmoko.htm Pulster])<br /> * jdivanov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jdivanov Contact], 16 June 2008<br /> * luchoh, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/luchoh Contact], 26 June 2008<br /> * nninov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nninov Contact], 26 June 2008<br /> * danov2, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/danov2 Contact], 30 June 2008<br /> * mkaramihalev, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mkaramihalev Contact], 12 July 2008<br /> * UniXSouL, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/UniXSouL Contact], 12 July 2008<br /> <br /> == Canada ==<br /> <br /> === British Columbia ===<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * Dave (Vancouver) Vancouver Linux users group mailto: doc AT skynet REMOVE dot REMOVE ie - organising this group<br /> * Justin (Vancouver): mailto: stryderjzw AT gmail<br /> * Robert (Vancouver) - robtaylor &lt;AT&gt; tinsputnik &lt;DOT&gt; com (1 unit)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> '''Group 2'''<br /> <br /> Status: 4?/10<br /> <br /> * Chris (Vancouver) - chris (AT) fourthandvine (DOT) com (1 unit)<br /> * Ali (Vancouver) - hit2436 (A-T) hotmail (dot) com (1 units)<br /> * Rob (Vancouver) - rtymensen (at) gmail (DoT) com (1 unit)<br /> * James (Vancouver) - james (at) greycastle (dot) net (1 unit)<br /> <br /> === Alberta ===<br /> Status : 10/10 (this order has already been placed)<br /> <br /> * [[User:Wuth|Wuth]] (Pincher Creek) : [mailto:wuth@acm.org] : 1 unit + 1 debug board<br /> * [[User:Slm3095om|stacy]] (2 units) : slm3095om AT millions dOt ca<br /> * [[User:Abnormal|Morgan]] : [mailto:lightningperf@hotmail.com]<br /> * [[User:picosrfr|Will]] (High Level) : [mailto:will.siddall@gmail.com]<br /> * [[User:Shadowwolf|Vince]] (Red Deer) : 1 Unit + 1 Debug board [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Shadowwolf Get a hold of me here]<br /> * [[User:Deanb2|Dean]] (Calgary) : [mailto:deanb@gbtn.net]<br /> * [[User:jimb|jim b]] (Edmonton) : [mailto:callonjim@gmail.com][http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jimb mokomail]<br /> * [[User:Crz|Steve]] (Calgary) : 1 unit, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crz Contact]<br /> * [[User:Belrick|Bruce]] (Calgary) : 1 unit [mailto:bruce.elrick@gmail.com email]<br /> <br /> === Ontario/Quebec ===<br /> ==== GTA (Toronto) ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * Gerald A [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Historybuff Contact me here]<br /> * MattC, mailto: quirkz AT gmail<br /> * Sergey K, openmoko AT deeptown dOt org<br /> * Daniel Lister, gmail(dan.lister)<br /> * Ronnie Wong: '''3 units''' - r25wong AT ryerson dOT ca<br /> * Paul V, contact using gmail, original.roju<br /> * Matt Manjos, matt (AT) manjos * com<br /> * Steven O'Reilly, soreilly AT walled DOT net<br /> <br /> Group 2 Status (Hamilton): 6/10<br /> <br /> * Gabriel D - ace AT staticwave DOT ca<br /> * Richard D - rtdegelder --&gt; gmail.com<br /> * Steve S - ssinger_pg AT sympatico dot ca<br /> * Wolfram Kahl - kahl McMaster CA<br /> * Paul Wouters - paul@xelerance.com '''1 units'''<br /> * John Hurley - nybble at eml dot cc<br /> <br /> Group 3 Status (Montréal): 2/10<br /> * Patrick Hétu - patrick AT koumbit DOT org<br /> * Eric Lebel - lebeleri AT aei DOT ca<br /> <br /> Shall we start Group 4 (Toronto) ?<br /> * Michael Mather - firstname.lastname AT teksavvy.com<br /> * Sotiris Sig. - sot525 AT hotmail DOT com (cmon, lets start a 2nd group 4 Toronto)<br /> <br /> Group 5 Status (Ottawa): 2 / 10<br /> * Mathieu Charron - mathieu.charron AT elwillow.net (maybe 2 units, one for a friend)<br /> <br /> == Chile ==<br /> === Santiago ===<br /> Status : 5/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Mankeke]] Ricardo Manríquez C., mailto: ricardo.manriquez &quot;remove this and add AT&quot; gmail &quot;dot&quot; com<br /> * [[User:XKnightmareX]] Gonzalo Pesenti., mailto: mare.knight1 &quot;remove this and add AT&quot; gmail &quot;dot&quot; com<br /> * [[User:Freyes]] Felipe Reyes., mailto: felipereyes &quot;remove this and add AT&quot; gmail &quot;dot&quot; com<br /> * [[User:crsepulv]] Cristian Sepúlveda, mailto: sepulveda.cristian@gmail.com<br /> <br /> === Valdivia ===<br /> * [[User:alvherre]] Álvaro Herrera, mailto: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org (I'm OK with joining the guys in Santiago)<br /> <br /> == China ==<br /> === BeiJing ===<br /> Status:10/10<br /> *Luther &lt;br/&gt; mailto:lutherluo@qq.com &lt;br/&gt; 2 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br /> *Gnosy &lt;br/&gt; mailto:gnosyhh@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br /> *Bin Zong &lt;br /&gt; mailto:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 Freerunner &lt;br/&gt; MSN:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com<br /> *Lee zaixin&lt;br /&gt; mailto:shqlzx@126.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 Freerunner &lt;br/&gt;<br /> *Zhuwei&lt;br /&gt; mailto:grissom_zhu@139.com &lt;br/&gt; MSN:wyh0310@hotmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 Freerunner &lt;br/&gt;<br /> *zhaojun&lt;br/&gt; mailto:zhaojun1631@163.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> *Benoit Begue&lt;br/&gt; Retired: please count me out, I'm leaving Beijing sooner than expected. Sorry for this.&lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner<br /> *Tristan&lt;br/&gt; mailto:0x5478(at)gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; MSN:liu_bei_bei(at)hotmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br /> *Lalo&lt;br/&gt; lalo dot martins at gmail (do ''not'' email me with random stuff, specially in Chinese!)&lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner<br /> *Lu Kuo&lt;br /&gt;Email and MSN: koreylu#hotmail.com (substitute @ for # please)&lt;br /&gt;1 freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> <br /> Status:2/10<br /> *Hong Zhiyi &lt;br/&gt; mailto: zhiyi.hong@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner<br /> *Yang Ming &lt;br/&gt; mailto: yangm.cn at gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner.<br /> <br /> === ShangHai ===<br /> Status:5/10<br /> &lt;br/&gt; <br /> * Pajda, info on my [[User:Pajda|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Pajda|contact me here]]. 1 x freerunner<br /> * ChandleWEi mailto:chandle.wei@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> * YxunLan mailto:dennis.yxun@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> * Leongoo [[Special:Emailuser/Leongoo|Contact]] 1 x freerunner<br /> * Exp &lt;br/&gt; mailto: linyuan2 at 163.com or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Experience|Cotact me here]] &lt;br/&gt; 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> <br /> === Guangzhou ===<br /> Status:2/10<br /> *Geoffrey &lt;br/&gt; mailto:dghfalcon@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug borad.<br /> *monomania &lt;br/&gt; mailto:simulacrumqiu@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner.<br /> <br /> == Colombia ==<br /> === Bogotá ===<br /> Status: 5/10<br /> * Javier Rojas. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:jerojasro@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Gustavo Andrés Angulo. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:woakas@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Exell E. Franklin J. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:arawaco@ieee.org&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Fredyrivera, Humano. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:fredyrivera@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Juan Carlos Castellanos. Phone. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:juancastellanosm@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> == Denmark ==<br /> If we do not reach a total large enough, Denmark **is** a very small place - surely we could figure out a way of getting them to find their way 'round the country :)<br /> <br /> === EU (german) vs. Direct (OpenMoko) discussion ===<br /> <br /> Esben Damgaard has created a Google Group discussion to evaluate which is the optimal:<br /> http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk<br /> <br /> [[User:asbjorn | Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asbjorn (contact)] has [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk/browse_thread/thread/cd68b49d8520ecd2# offered] to act as invoice hub for group sales from either OpenMoko or Handheld-Linux. [[User:asbjorn | Details]]<br /> <br /> === Invoice considerations ===<br /> <br /> According to Lone Borre from SKAT.dk the rules are different if the buyer is private or a company. If a company buys the phone the invoice must be addressed to the company and the company must be a registered importer. This makes it harder to do a group sale in which 2 of the recipients need an invoice. <br /> <br /> === Jutland ===<br /> ==== Aalborg ====<br /> Status: 8/10<br /> <br /> Should anyone need it, transportation from Aalborg to Thisted for phones can be arranged, if you don't want to pick it up in Aalborg yourself :) ~leinir<br /> <br /> As it looks right now, it seems that it would be cheaper and easier for us to buy through Pulster in Germany - see the following email: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017778.html ~leinir<br /> <br /> - It indeed is: [http://www.pulster.de/index.htm?d__om___b_OpenMoko_Freerunner__b_991.htm], the price is 299.00 EUR per piece i we buy 10, and shipping is 14.90 EUR.~Cybe<br /> <br /> * Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:admin@leinir.dk &lt;br /&gt; [[User:Leinir]]<br /> * Fabian Olesen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:firewalkerx@gmail.com<br /> * Helge Willum Larsen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:helge.at.helges.dk<br /> * Kristian Lindemann Larsen (2 stk)&lt;br /&gt; mailto:walker@pandia.dk<br /> * Brian Olsen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:downloader@pandia.dk<br /> * Henrik Odder Jensen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:herakles@pandia.dk<br /> * Simon Ahm &lt;br /&gt; mailto:spymater@gmail.com<br /> <br /> ==== Aarhus ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * Kent S. Knudsen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Forestmountain contact me here] - [[User:Forestmountain]] (&lt;strike&gt;2 phones; will join any danish group if necessary&lt;/strike&gt;)<br /> * Lars Jensen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/el_senator contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)<br /> Kent &amp; Lars: As of 5/7: We have ordered 10 units (all in all with Fyn) from handheld-linux.com. Arguments here: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk The deal is closed.<br /> <br /> * Martin Pedersen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cheeses contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)<br /> <br /> ==== Skjern ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Carlo]]<br /> <br /> ==== Sønderborg ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * Theis Hjorth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Theis.hjorth contact me here] (1 phone + 1 devkit) &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> === Fyn ===<br /> Status: 10/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:EsbenDamgaard]] (need 3 (Looney &amp; Gert))<br /> * [[User:apm]] (need 1 with invoice - can pick up in Copenhagen)<br /> * [[User:LarsOPoulsen | Lars Poulsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LarsOPoulsen (contact)] (1 phone)<br /> <br /> Peter: As of 5/7: We have ordered 10 units (+5 for Århus) from handheld-linux.com.<br /> Arguments here: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk<br /> The deal is closed.<br /> <br /> === Sjælland ===<br /> ==== Copenhagen ====<br /> Status: 12/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:jrcarlsen | Johnny Rose Carlsen]] (+45) 28 14 60 04 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jrcarlsen (contact)] 1 phone<br /> * [[User:Fursund]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fursund (contact)] 1 phone<br /> * [[User:tabac | Thomas Ammitzbøll-Bach ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tabac (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1 phone&lt;/strike&gt; Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:chel | Christian E. Lysel ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chel (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1 phone&lt;/strike&gt; Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:UlrikRasmussen | Ulrik Rasmussen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/UlrikRasmussen (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1&lt;/strike&gt; Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:OleTange | Ole Tange]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OleTange (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;I need 14 with invoice&lt;/strike&gt; - Buying through pulster.de because of the invoice considerations mentioned above)<br /> * [[User:Pascal | Pascal d'Hermilly]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pascal (contact)] (Buying through US-openmoko shop)<br /> * [[User:maha | Martin Hansen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/maha (contact)] (3 with invoice)<br /> * [[User:SvenneK | Svenne Krap ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/SvenneK (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1&lt;/strike&gt;) Buying through Handheld-linux through [[User:asbjorn|Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen]].<br /> * [[User:bss | Bo Stendal Sørensen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bss (contact)] (1)<br /> * [[User:Glenn | Glenn Møller-Holst]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Glenn (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;2 freerunners + debug board, +invoice&lt;/strike&gt; - Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:knmeister | Kristian Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/knmeister (contact)] &lt;strike&gt;(I need 1 with invoice)&lt;/strike&gt; Seems it is easier to buy from a reseller.<br /> * [[User:hammerfar | Henrik Hammer Berthelsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hammerfar (contact)] (2 with invoice) - ordering through [[User:asbjorn|Asbjørn]] as a hub.<br /> * [[User:Bubbi | Steen Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubbi (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;2 with invoice&lt;/strike&gt; - buying through reseller)<br /> * [[User:asbjorn | Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asbjorn (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice) I has [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk/browse_thread/thread/cd68b49d8520ecd2# offered] to act as hub for group sales from OpenMoko and Handheld-Linux.<br /> * [[User:KlaymenDK | Jan Gundtofte-Bruun]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KlaymenDK (contact)] -- will wait until software is stable enough to work as primary mobile phone<br /> <br /> == Estonia ==<br /> === Tallinn ===<br /> Let's see if we can get ten people together for this. I'm willing to organise the local distribution if we can. Spread the word and try to get more locals interested in it. [[User:Yogiz|Yogiz]] 08:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Yogiz | Yogiz]] ([mailto:yogizz@gmail.com contact]) 1 phone<br /> * [[User:Zooter | Zooter]] ([mailto:zooter@hot.ee contact]) 1 phone<br /> <br /> == Finland ==<br /> <br /> See also [[Openmoko Local Groups: Finland]], if you're interested.<br /> <br /> === Possible new order(s) ===<br /> <br /> Status: 4/10<br /> These did not participate in the pulster.de order(s) shown below.<br /> <br /> Helsinki:<br /> <br /> * Ilari Oras &lt;br /&gt; ilari DOT oras AT welho DOT com<br /> * Jaakko Nissi &lt;br /&gt; jnissi AT pallokorva DOT org<br /> * Jerry Jalava &lt;br /&gt; jerry DOT jalava AT iki DOT fi<br /> <br /> Turku:<br /> <br /> * Jaakko Lehtinen, jaakko dot lehtinen at gmail dot com<br /> <br /> Pulster.de now sells individual phones at 329€/phone, but 10-packs at 299€/phone.<br /> <br /> === Already ordered ===<br /> ==== Uusimaa ====<br /> (Note to gta02v6 waiting people:&quot;The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT<br /> LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption&quot;. So, there is should be no reason to wait for V6. See also [[Neo FreeRunner GTA02 Hardware#GTA02v6]].)<br /> <br /> ===== Helsinki I =====<br /> '''THIS GROUP OF 10 NEOS HAS BEEN ORDERED''' (from pulster.de)<br /> <br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * Mikko Rauhala x2 [mailto:mjr@iki.fi mjr@iki.fi]<br /> * Aleksi Hankalahti &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi]<br /> * Seppo Hätönen &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:karrde@iki.fi karrde@iki.fi]<br /> * Ville-Pekka Vainio &lt;br /&gt; vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi<br /> * Heikki Hallamaa &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi]<br /> * Tomi Jylhä-Ollila &lt;br /&gt; tomi.jylha-ollila@helsinki.fi<br /> * Richard Braakman<br /> * Timo Jyrinki &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:timo.jyrinki@iki.fi timo.jyrinki@iki.fi]<br /> * Jussi Kekkonen &lt;br /&gt; tmt AT ubuntu DOT com (moved from below as one slot became available here)<br /> <br /> ===== Helsinki II, Turku &amp; Vaasa=====<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Rhk DISCUSS HERE]<br /> <br /> Status : 3/10<br /> <br /> '''THIS GROUP OF 4 NEOS HAS BEEN ORDERED (3+1 (lindi) from outside this list)''' (from pulster.de)<br /> <br /> * Risto H. Kurppa &lt;br /&gt; risto AT kurppa DOT fi<br /> * Aapo Rantalainen &lt;br /&gt; aapo DOT rantalainen AT gmail DOT com<br /> * Matti Laakso &lt;br /&gt; matti DOT laakso AT kotiposti DOT net<br /> <br /> &lt;del&gt;Vaasa:&lt;/del&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;del&gt;* Mikko Niemikorpi, mikefulli ÄT gmail PISTE com&lt;/del&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Lappi ====<br /> ===== Kemi =====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> '''ORDERED'''<br /> <br /> 4kpl tilattu pulster.de:stä. Tilaus ei ehtinyt ensimmäiseen erään. Tilaukseen varmaan voi lisätä vielä tavaraa, jos halukkaita löytyy.<br /> <br /> '''[[User:Cg|Discuss the order here]]'''<br /> <br /> Kemi:<br /> * Henri Valta &lt;br /&gt;henri PISTE valta ÄT kemi PISTE fi<br /> * Tommi Juvonen &lt;br /&gt;tassi ÄT mediapumppu PISTE info<br /> * Jaakko Pörhö &lt;br /&gt;ensteinfrank ÄT hotmail PISTE com<br /> * Tuomo Mattila (Oulu)&lt;br /&gt;tuomom ÄT ee PISTE oulu PISTE fi<br /> <br /> == France ==<br /> === Bretagne ===<br /> ==== Brest ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * StevenLeRoux [mailto:steven@pourri.fr steven@pourri.fr] Jabber_Id:Steven@jabber.fr<br /> * Acheteur potentiel #2<br /> <br /> ==== Rennes ====<br /> Status : 3/10<br /> <br /> * Cédric DUFOUIL (openmoko at tsleg point com)<br /> * Yves MAHE (ymahe at zindep dot com)<br /> * Guillaume BERTHELOM (yogui29 at gmail dot com)<br /> <br /> === Pays de la Loire ===<br /> ==== La Roche sur Yon ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vtouchar Vincent Touchard]<br /> <br /> ==== Nantes ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> * [[User:Yoann|Yoann ARNAUD]]. OK for a ship in Rennes if needed. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Yoann Contact me here]<br /> * [[User:sim51|Benoît SIMARD]]. Idem [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sim51 Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Nord ===<br /> <br /> <br /> === Ile de france ===<br /> ==== Paris ====<br /> Status : 21/30<br /> <br /> * StevenLeRoux<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Phyce|Phyce]]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')<br /> * &lt;s&gt; Yann SLADEK&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')<br /> * [[User:Wilk|Wilk]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wilk Contact me here]<br /> * Jonathan Magano ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JonathanMM Contact me here])<br /> * Benjamin Renard (bn8[AT]zionetrix.net)<br /> * [[User:OlivierBerger|OlivierBerger]]<br /> * [[User:BartGS|BartGS]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BartGS Contact me here]<br /> * [[User:rcoscali|Rémi Cohen-Scali]]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Valos|Valéry Febvre]]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Manou|Emmanuel Raviart]]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')<br /> * Le Troll Farceur ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LeTrollFarceur Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:mshook|Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer]]<br /> * [[User:LoicMinier|Loïc Minier]]<br /> * [[User:chansen|Cyril Hansen]]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:hbernard|hugues]]&lt;/s&gt; (beartech)<br /> * Titilambert ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/titilambert Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:Raphux|Raphux]]([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Raphux Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:tuXXX|Damien Thébault]] (Contact me [[User:tuXXX|here]] or [[Special:Emailuser/tuXXX|here]])<br /> * [[User:kkum|Kumar]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/kkum|here]])<br /> * Gand' ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gand' Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:Sporniket|David SPORN]]<br /> * [[User:Bedo|Bedo]]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Ainulindale|Julien Cassignol]]&lt;/s&gt; (commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop)<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Theocrite|Theocrite]] &lt;/s&gt; (commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop)<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Gui82|Gui82]]&lt;/s&gt; (commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop)<br /> * [[User:Yciabaud|Yoann Ciabaud]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/yciabaud|here]])<br /> You may also see :<br /> http://bearstech.com/shop<br /> <br /> === Lorraine ===<br /> ==== Nancy ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:mosan|Nicolas Salles]]<br /> <br /> === Rhône-Alpes ===<br /> ==== Lyon ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/patou Vincent MEURISSE]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pini Gilles FILIPPINI]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')<br /> <br /> ==== Grenoble ====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * &lt;s&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbollard Philippe]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aurelien Aurelien] (''commande groupée en préparation sur http://www.guilde.asso.fr/wiki/Openmoko '')<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Hey_popey Damien]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/swap38 Johann] (''commande groupée en préparation sur http://www.guilde.asso.fr/wiki/Openmoko '')<br /> <br /> === Alpes de Haute Provence ===<br /> ==== Manosque ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cfdev Cyril]<br /> <br /> === Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur ===<br /> ==== Sophia Antipolis ====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nico.inc Nicolas HUOT]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xavier_OM Xavier CREMASCHI]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasile Vasile Jureschi]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Herve5 Hervé Sainct]<br /> <br /> === Midi-Pyrénées ===<br /> ==== Toulouse ====<br /> <br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Ortalo|Ortalo]]<br /> <br /> == Germany ==<br /> === Baden-Württemberg ===<br /> ==== Karlsruhe ====<br /> Out:<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Spacemarine|Spacemarine]] I'm out. Since the Freerunner is available for 300 Euro in Germany, I don't see any point in organizing a groupbuy anymore. I've sent an email to everyone else interested in the groupbuy. If you are in this list or if I met you on the Kalug Meeting, you should have gotten it.<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Dr.Nop|Dr.Nop]] (Habe mein Telefon jetzt ebenfalls bei Pulster bestellt.)<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Gollum|Gollum]] Pulster doesn't give away the extra goodies, but the price still seems fair -- I'm out, too.<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Archimedes|Sebastian]] I'm going to buy at pulsters (299€) =&gt; I'm out<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Cfo|cfo]] I think the offer of pulster is fair! =&gt; I'm out<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/BlackFog|BlackFog]] thinks he has to wait for the next Pulster delivery date<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Adonres|Adonres]] I'll buy at pulsters, too =&gt; I'm out<br /> <br /> <br /> Still In:<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/JensB|JensB]]<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Gromgull|Gromgull]] (in Kaiserslautern, but Karlsruhe is close enough, and I doubt that I'll find 10 people here.<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Ebi|Ebi]]<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/RIdd3r|Fabian]]<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Roduit|Roduit]] In Heidelberg. Karlsruhe is close enough.<br /> <br /> ==== Leonberg ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Agon|Agon]] Maybe 1 Freerunner.<br /> ----<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/ZaPPaS|ZaPPaS]] Sice the Freerunner is available for a comparable price at [http://www.pulster.de/] I will buy there...<br /> <br /> ==== Tübingen ====<br /> Status 6/10<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/NoBody|NoBody]] close to tuebingen and stuttgart (between both)<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/eliasp|eliasp]] (3 Freerunner (me, qknight + sbock) - Tübingen downtown<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/nobs|nobs]] thinking about buying one; if I am #10, count me in; if there is someone else #11 you can drop me<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/marjay|marjay]] take also one (Dettingen/Erms)<br /> <br /> Out:<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/MiTo|MiTo]] 299 Euro bei Pulster.de sind ein fairer Preis, kaufe es deshalb dort.<br /> <br /> ==== Ulm ====<br /> Status: 2/10<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/mzanetti|mzanetti]] <br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Lord_Evil|Lord_Evil]] ich nehm auch eins. Evtl. kann ich mich auch an Augsburg anhängen.<br /> <br /> === Bayern ===<br /> <br /> ==== Augsburg ====<br /> <br /> Status 5/10<br /> I just want to see if there are enough people to fill up to ten. So add your name here if you are interested.<br /> <br /> *[[Special:Emailuser/Whoever|whoever]] - Ich nehm eins, wenn die Münchner keines übrig haben.<br /> *[[Special:Emailuser/paddy2706|paddy2706]] - Ein OpenMoko bitte :)<br /> <br /> Wann werden die dann bestellt/gezahlt? Dauert bei mir no kurz bis ichs Geld für zusammen hab aber dann nehm ich eins.<br /> MfG [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MookiE MookiE]<br /> <br /> Hallo, ich würde mich für einen Freerunner interessieren. Wie sieht es mit Zoll aus? Kommt der noch dazu?<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Murks Murks]<br /> <br /> $3690 (10 Freerunner) <br /> + $ 160 (Versand lt. Australiern)<br /> =======<br /> $3850<br /> <br /> $3850<br /> + $ 732 (19% Einfuhrumsatzsteuer)<br /> + $ 0 (kein Zoll für Handys)<br /> =======<br /> $4582<br /> <br /> $458 / 1,5$/€ = 305 € pro Telefon (als Richtwert)<br /> <br /> ==== München ====<br /> Momentan Favorisiert: Bestellung bei Pulster<br /> <br /> Wenn du bei der Sammelbestellung der Münchner User Group mitmachen möchtest, dann gehe bitte zur <br /> '''[[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup Seite]]'''!<br /> <br /> Hilf mit, eine [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup]] aufzubauen!<br /> <br /> Die alte Liste habe ich entfernt, da suf der User Group Seite eine aktuelle ist. (koebi)<br /> <br /> === Berlin===<br /> ==== Berlin ====<br /> <br /> Help to form a [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Berlin|Berlin User Group]]!<br /> <br /> Status 21/21<br /> * Eckhard - I am doing a group order [8/10] available [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ejokisch Contact]<br /> * Stephan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Fischel Contact me here]<br /> * Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Thebohemian Contact me here]<br /> * Nico [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Nico Contact me here]<br /> * Bastian [[User:Fries43]]<br /> * Sven-Ola [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Sven-ola Contact]<br /> * Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:arnepp Contact me here]<br /> * MM [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:MM Contact]<br /> * Keks [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Keksdosenmann Contact]<br /> * Matthias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:mk Contact]<br /> * Norbert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Noha Contact]<br /> * Joscha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Joka Contact]<br /> * Janne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Janne Contact]<br /> * Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Robx Contact]<br /> * Conrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Caribu Contact me here]<br /> * govindas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:govindas Contact me here]<br /> * philippt [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:philippt Contact me here if you dare ;-)]<br /> * Stephan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Su2 Contact me here]<br /> * Iván [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:ogai]<br /> * david [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:dk Contact]<br /> * kajik [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:kajik contact]<br /> <br /> === Bremen ===<br /> ==== Bremen ====<br /> Status 3/10<br /> * Gero Mudersbach [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gero Contact me here]<br /> * Hartje Bruns [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrBurns Contact me here]<br /> * Timo Scheffler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Faldrian Contact me here]<br /> <br /> ==== Bremerhaven ====<br /> <br /> === Hamburg ===<br /> ==== Hamburg ====<br /> Status 9-10<br /> <br /> * Jan 4-5[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jan07 Contact me here]<br /> * Varacanero [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/varacanero Contact me here]<br /> * Ole 3-5 pcs [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Olemoko Contact me here]<br /> * Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/GuraX Contact me here]<br /> * Arne.anka 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Arne.anka Contact me here]<br /> * Wasili Goutas 1pc + debug adapter [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Laki Contact me here]<br /> * mimbeck 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mimbeck Contact me here]<br /> * savi 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savi Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Hessen ===<br /> ==== Frankfurt ====<br /> Status 1-10<br /> <br /> * Blacky [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Blacky Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Niedersachsen===<br /> ==== Hannover====<br /> Status 3/10<br /> <br /> * Dattel83 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dattel83 Contact me here]<br /> * [[User:Ditto|Ditto]] contact me via [[Special:Emailuser/Ditto|e-mail form]] (If we don't get enough orders maybe we should join with [[GroupSales#Bielefeld|Bielefeld]] or another town close by)<br /> * [[User:LaKoon|LaKoon]] [[Special:Emailuser/LaKoon|Contact me here]]<br /> <br /> === NRW ===<br /> ==== Aachen ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> * Henrik, infos on my [[User:Henrikz|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Henrikz|contact me here]]<br /> * David, infos on my [[User:TechnoFan|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/TechnoFan|contact me here]]<br /> * Stephan, infos on my [[User:chaq|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/chaq|contact me here]]<br /> * Michael, infos on my [[User:knut|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/knut|contact me here]]<br /> <br /> ==== Bielefeld ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> <br /> * David, infos on my [[User:Raven|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Raven|contact me here]]<br /> * Sebastian, infos on my [[User:Seppi|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Seppi|contact me here]]<br /> * Dackel, infos on my [[User:Killerdackel|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Killerdackel|contact me here]]<br /> * Conny<br /> * Arndt, infos on my [[User:Arndot|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Arndot|contact me here]]<br /> <br /> ==== Bocholt ====<br /> ===== (Fachhochschule in Bocholt) =====<br /> * 1 x adslex<br /> * 1 x dg [[Special:Emailuser/dg|contact me here]]<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> === Sachsen-Anhalt ===<br /> ==== Stendal (evtl. Magdeburg) ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * Fabian Off [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fabian2de Contact me here]<br /> <br /> <br /> === Thueringen ===<br /> ==== Weimar ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Fries43]]<br /> <br /> ==== Ilmenau ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:KimKiesel]]<br /> <br /> === Sachsen ===<br /> * Da es das Gerät bei PULSTER für 299€ gibt und man mit einem 10er Paket diesen Preis nicht unterbieten kann, abgesehen davon, dass wir sowieso keine 10 Leute zusammenbekommen, sollte jeder sein Gerät einzeln Bestellen. Lediglich die Versandkosten kann man bei einer 10er Bestellung bei PULSTER sparen, was sich auch nicht lohnt. Die Accessoires muss man bei PULSTER separat bestellen. Ich hoffe, dass das allen genehm ist. --[[User:White gecko|White gecko]] 22:37, 29 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> * Da PULSTER den Preis aus 329€ gehoben hat würde sich ein 10er Paket bei PULSTER wieder lohnen, da man so 30€ pro Gerät sparen würde, wie sieht es mit euch aus? Ich habe mal einen Jabber-Gruppen-Chat openmoko@conference.comiles.eu eingerichtet meldet euch bitte, dass wir bald bestellen können sonst sind wir bei der Lieferung am 25.7. wieder nicht dabei. --[[User:White gecko|White gecko]] 14:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> * Um unsere Sammelbestellung voran zu treiben habe ich einen [http://comiles.eu/~natanael/wordpress/2008/07/10/free-your-phone/ Blogeintrag] verfasst und Robert hat eine [http://comiles.eu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openmoko Mailingliste] eingerichtet. --[[User:White gecko|White gecko]] 00:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Chemnitz ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * Tobias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tobydox Contact me here]<br /> * Michael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/her Contact me here]<br /> ==== Dresden ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * Martin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nodge Contact me here]<br /> <br /> ==== Leipzig ====<br /> Status 6/10<br /> <br /> * Natanael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/white_gecko Contact me here] (+3)<br /> * Micha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Adian Contact me here]<br /> * xbaldauf [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/xbaldauf Contact me here]<br /> <br /> == Hungary == <br /> Good to know:<br /> *discussion here: http://hup.hu/node/54588<br /> *mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-groupsales-hungary<br /> *group ordering coordinator: Dániel Vásárhelyi (see below) - please contact me on any questions<br /> <br /> ordering rules:<br /> * anyone can add and remove him/herself on the list - new names MUST be _appended_ to the list<br /> * please use real name and working e-mail address<br /> * although this list is informative, please extend it _only_ if you are really serious about ordering it<br /> * coordinator contacts everyone interested prior to actual buying<br /> <br /> === Budapest ===<br /> ==== participiants ====<br /> # &lt;s&gt;Ferenc 'Lion' Veres [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kempelen Contact] lion kukac netngine pont hu&lt;/s&gt; ordered<br /> # Laszlo 'rka' Szabo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rka Contact]<br /> # tg [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tg?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Contact]<br /> # Árva T. Mihály - lirul [KUKAC] hixsplit [PONT] hu<br /> # Nyosigomboc - nyos [KUKAC] nyos [PONT] homelinux [PONT] net<br /> # Ludvig Adam - hunludvig [KUKAC] gmail [PONT] com<br /> # [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asdmin?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Dániel 'asd' Vásárhelyi]<br /> # btamas, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/btamas Contact]<br /> # Kovács 'ka87' András, andras [kukac] csevego [pont] net<br /> # pcm, pcm [kukac] freemail [pont] hu<br /> # Geza Piros, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gpiros Contact]<br /> # Áron Preisinger, appa00 [kukac] gmail [pont] com [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/appa Contact]<br /> # pierre286, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pierre286 Contact]<br /> # Hélei Zoltán, heleiz [kukac] gmail<br /> # Radics Áron, raron @ vipmail . hu<br /> # Laszlo Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]<br /> # tr3w [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tr3w Contact]<br /> # Ferenc Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]<br /> # Bolyóczki Zsombor, mogorva kukac tuxworx pont hu<br /> # Sütő Zoltán, suto dot zoltan at t dash online dot hu<br /> # Zsolt Pittmann, pittmann dot zsolt at gmail dot com<br /> # KREKACS Laszlo, laszlo {pont} krekacs {pont} list {kukacka} gmail {pont} com<br /> # Móker Tamás,[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rwind Contact]<br /> # Krisztián Kovács, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Krisztian Contact]<br /> # Tamas Michalik, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dotmind Contact]<br /> # Peter Roosz, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rope Contact]<br /> # Eduard Iacoboaia, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Polaru Contact]<br /> # László Vadász, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lvadasz Contact]<br /> # Attila Lendvai, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/attila.lendvai Contact]<br /> # Thomas Otterbein [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tommi Contact]<br /> # Beáta Müller [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/emm Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== groups ====<br /> <br /> legend:<br /> * yes = I definitely want it (one)<br /> * N = I want this many (2 for two headsets, for example)<br /> * yes? = I prefer having one, but it's not a problem if not<br /> * no = I absolutely don't want to have this item<br /> * ? = It is not important for me, either to have or not (use this instead of 'no' at least at the warranty)<br /> <br /> ===== group #1 - open ! =====<br /> This group places order at nearest distributor on the cheapest price. <br /> You will be contacted before ordering.<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! your name<br /> ! e-mail address<br /> ! want phone? (yes/N)<br /> ! want case? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! want headset? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! prefer 2y warranty? (yes/?)<br /> ! want devboard? (yes/yes?/no)<br /> |-<br /> | tg<br /> | tg x-net hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | KREKÁCS László<br /> | laszlo.krekacs.list kukac gmail potty com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | ?<br /> | yes?<br /> |-<br /> | Kovács Krisztian<br /> | kroomagnon at gmail dot com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Preisinger Áron<br /> | appa00 kukac gmail pont com<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | ?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | Nyos<br /> | nyos kukac nyos pont homelinux pont net<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> <br /> | Radics Áron<br /> | raronkonektor kukac gmail pont com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | Besenyei Tamas (btamas)<br /> | tamas besenyei net<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Ruskó Péter<br /> | peter kukac rusko pont hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Roósz Péter<br /> | peter kukac roosz pont hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Kárpáti László<br /> | leslie [at] zenevilag [dot] net<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Szabo Laszlo<br /> | rka kukac rka pont hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Lendvai Attila<br /> | attila.lendvai gmail<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Tóth Antal<br /> | toncsi55 kukac hotmail pont com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | your name<br /> | e-mail address<br /> | want phone?<br /> | want case?<br /> | want headset?<br /> | prefer warranty?<br /> | want devboard?<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===== group #2 - open (ordering at mid-august)! =====<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! your name<br /> ! e-mail address<br /> ! want phone? (yes/N)<br /> ! want case? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! want headset? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! prefer 2y warranty? (yes/?)<br /> ! want devboard? (yes/yes?/no)<br /> |-<br /> | Árva T. Mihály<br /> | lirul at hixsplit dot hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Hélei Zoltán<br /> | heleiz [at] gmail [dot] com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | 2<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Muller Beata<br /> | beata [dot] muller [at] gmail [dot] com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Móker Tamás<br /> | rwind [at] apacheweb [dot] hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Piros Geza<br /> | geza [dot] piros [at] gmail [dot] com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | Otterbein Thomas<br /> | tommi [at] t-online [dot] hu<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | tr3w<br /> | tr3w at freemail<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Sütő Zoltán<br /> | suto [dot] zoltan [at] t [dash] online [dot] hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Vadász László<br /> | laszlo pont vadasz kukac yahoo pont com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes?<br /> |-<br /> | Dániel Vásárhelyi<br /> | asdmin at gmail.com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | your name<br /> | e-mail address<br /> | want phone?<br /> | want case?<br /> | want headset?<br /> | prefer warranty?<br /> | want devboard?<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Kecskemét ===<br /> Dániel Vásárhelyi handles transportation to Kecskemét, therefore it is not necessary to collect 10 all pieces here.<br /> <br /> == India ==<br /> === Bangalore ===<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sh4r4d sharad]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gadiyar Anand Gadiyar]<br /> * Ankur Arora ''terminus [at] gmail [dot] com''<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kunaldeo Kunal Deo]<br /> * Rishavnath rishavnath@gmail.com<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/libin_v Libin Varghese] (Waiting for the GSM 900 Band)<br /> <br /> === Delhi/NCR ===<br /> Status 2/10<br /> * Sameer Mohamed Thahir [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sameerthahir Contact]<br /> * Pratul Kalia (lut4rp) ''pratulkalia [at] gmail [dot] com''<br /> <br /> === Mumbai [Bombay] ===<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Saurabh Saurabh]<br /> <br /> == Ireland ==<br /> === Dublin ===<br /> To register your interest for the Dublin shipment please post a comment on this [http://patrickoconnor.ie/blog/2008/07/01/openmoko-freerunner-limited-release/ blog post] and enter your details below.<br /> <br /> Status 10/10<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/patchrick Patchrick]<br /> * Karl O'Dwyer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Karl.odwyer Contact Me Here]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonic Sonic]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/s4dd PaulD]<br /> * BOFH [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BOFH, 1xPhone, 1x<br /> DBoard, 1x Spares Pack {2xBatt's and case} =&gt; Email Here]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/onan Onan]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ankhi ankhi] - 1x Phone, 1x Spares Pack<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/seanodonnell seanodonnell]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kernelkhertz Mark R]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/HerraBRE Bjarni R. Einarsson] - 1x phone, 1x dboard<br /> <br /> == Italy == <br /> For more informations and to organize groups, visit the<br /> *[http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''''Italian Freerunner Group Sales Google Group'''''] (ML/Web/Feeds) ([mailto:freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com]).<br /> <br /> '''BUT please keep adding your name and email to the list below'''<br /> <br /> If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the &quot;most requested city&quot;, and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the &quot;double-shipping&quot;. ([http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/10937/focus=10981 Read here for reference]).<br /> <br /> === Toscana ===<br /> ==== Firenze (e dintorni) ====<br /> Status 14/10<br /> <br /> '''''[[GroupSales/Firenze|Wiki organizzativo]]'''''<br /> <br /> * [[User:Treviño|Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]] - [http://blog.3v1n0.net/contatti-trevino/ Contacts here]<br /> * [[User:Niccolo|Niccolo Rigacci]] - ''niccolo [AT] rigacci.org''<br /> * [[User:BiggMatt|Mattia Gentile]] - ''biggmatt@hotmail.it''<br /> * [[User:Sugacapra|Sugacapra]] - ''alessio.chemeri [AT] gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:tom_morello|Carlo Ascani (Morello)]] - ''carlo.ratm [AT] gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:marrano|Stefano Burchietti (Marrano)]] - ''stefano [AT] nontelodiromai.it''<br /> * [[User:Geli86|Matteo Gelimeri X 2 (Imola - Bologna)]] - ''gelimatteo [AT] gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:dcoppa|David Coppa (Borgo a Buggiano, Pistoia)]] - ''dcoppa@gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:Panthack|Dario Panthack Pantani (Pontedera - Pisa)]] - ''panthack2 [AT] tiscali.it''<br /> * [[User:alfatangoxt|Baraglia michele (alfatangoxt)(Vecchiano - Pisa)]] - ( mail ''[mailto:barmike1@tin.it]'') ( msn - ''alfatangoxt@hotmail.it'')<br /> * Francesco Guidi (perino)<br /> * Daniele Andreoli<br /> <br /> Rimossi:<br /> * [[User:pcav|Paolo Cavallini]] - ''cavallini [AT] faunalia.it''<br /> * Elisa ''[mailto:lab@kkk.it lab@kkk.it]'' (Empoli)<br /> <br /> === Lombardia ===<br /> <br /> ==== Milano e dintorni ====<br /> &lt;!--[[GroupSales_Milano_e_dintorni|Organizzazione preliminare]] DEPRECATA lì 11 Maggio 2008.--&gt;<br /> <br /> Per l'organizzazione preliminare interagire sul [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''].<br /> <br /> Ad ogni modo, per stabilire le precedenze nella prenotazione, '''aggiungetevi nella lista qui sotto'''<br /> &lt;!--<br /> ----<br /> <br /> N.B.: Stiamo congelando il primo gruppo. Chi non confermerà la sua intenzione di acquisto sul '''[[GroupSales/Milano|wiki organizzativo]] entro le 00:00 del 3 luglio''', rientrerà automaticamente nel gruppo successivo (da organizzare). Aggiungersi qui sotto '''solo se non interessati al primo gruppo d'acquisto'''.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> --&gt;<br /> <br /> Per il primo gruppo d'acquisto già partito: '''[[GroupSales/Milano|wiki organizzativo]]'''<br /> <br /> ===== Lista degli interessati =====<br /> Numero persone interessate: '''5'''<br /> <br /> Numero FreeRunner: '''5'''<br /> <br /> *'''1-10'''<br /> *# Maxxer [mailto:maxxer@yetopen.it maxxer@yetopen.it] (Lecco)&lt;!--RIMANDATO--&gt;<br /> *# Francesco Leserri - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Francy Contacts here] (Vimercate, MI)<br /> *# [[User:Pietrao| Pietro Isotti]] - [mailto:isottipietro@gmail.com isottipietro@gmail.com]<br /> *# [[User:ndr| Andrea Vago]] - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ndr Contacts here] (Rho, MI)<br /> *# [[User:Kingman| Mattia Borsani]] - [mailto:mattiaborsa3@msn.com mattiaborsa3@msn.com] (Parabiago, MI)<br /> &lt;!--<br /> *'''11-20''' --&gt;<br /> &lt;!--<br /> *'''21-30''' --&gt;<br /> <br /> === Piemonte ===<br /> ==== Torino (and province) ====<br /> Status 10/10<br /> <br /> Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Torino)<br /> <br /> Precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale&lt;br&gt;<br /> *'''Gruppo 1''' (prime persone a fare l'ordine):&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Claudio Carnino (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Alessandro Degano (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Enrico Pigozzi (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here]&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Riccardo Issoglio (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here]&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )&lt;br&gt;<br /> 2 x Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br /> *'''Gruppo 2''' (coloro che non ci stanno nel primo gruppo o che vogliono aspettare che il primo gruppo abbia ricevuto il telefono):&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Marco Forasacco (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> ...&lt;br&gt;<br /> (aggiungersi chi è nuovo)&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> -------------------------------------<br /> LISTA ORIGINALE (24/05/08 14:48):<br /> * Claudio Carnino &lt;br/&gt; (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)<br /> * Alessandro Degano &lt;br/&gt; (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)<br /> * Enrico Pigozzi &lt;br/&gt; (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)<br /> * Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here]<br /> * Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)<br /> * Riccardo Issoglio &lt;br/&gt; (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)<br /> * Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here]<br /> * Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )<br /> * Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!<br /> * Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com )<br /> * Marco Forasacco &lt;br/&gt; (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)<br /> --------------------------------------<br /> <br /> === Trentino-Alto Adige ===<br /> ==== Trento ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> <br /> * Vincenzo D'Andrea (vincenzo.dandrea AT gmail DOT com) &lt;br/&gt; (also Verona is OK - and I can carry others' phone VR to TN or viceversa)<br /> * Emanuele Olivetti (emanuele CHIOCCIOLA relativita PUNTO com)<br /> * Marco Ciampa (ciampix (*) libero (*) it)<br /> * Avi Arrigo (aviarrigo AT gmail DOT com)(also Milano is OK)<br /> <br /> === Friuli Venezia Giulia ===<br /> ==== Trieste ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * dorje [mailto:dorje@libero.it dorje@libero.it] - [[User:dorje|dorje]]<br /> <br /> === Veneto ===<br /> <br /> Status: 15/20<br /> <br /> ==== Padova ====<br /> <br /> * Andrea [mailto:nick(at)linux.it nick(at)linux.it ] <br /> <br /> ==== Treviso ====<br /> <br /> * Dario [mailto:aliasbrain@gmail.com aliasbrain(at)gmail.com] - [[User:Rastafan|Rastafan]] &lt;br /&gt;one, maybe two.<br /> <br /> * Pedro [mailto:paguilar@junkerhq.net paguilar(at)junkerhq.net] - [[User:Paguilar|Paguilar]] &lt;br/&gt;Also Padova and Vicenza are ok.<br /> <br /> * mr [mailto:maurizio.rottin@gmail.com maurizio.rottin a-t gmail d-o-t com] - [[User:Mr|Mr]] &lt;br/&gt;one for sure, maybe two<br /> <br /> ==== Venezia ====<br /> <br /> * Tommaso [mailto:tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com] - [[User:Tobarello|Tobarello]] &lt;br /&gt;Also Padova, Vicenza &amp; Trento are ok.<br /> * Mattia [mailto:tia8219@gmail.com tia8219@gmail.com] - [[User:tia1982|tia1982]] &lt;br /&gt;Also Padova.<br /> <br /> ==== Verona ====<br /> <br /> * Persegat [mailto:persegat@alice.it persegat@alice.it] - [[User:Pecce|Pecce]]<br /> * Sylar91 [mailto:sylar1991@gmail.com sylar1991@gmail.com] - [[User:Sylar91|Sylar91]]<br /> * Marco Franceschetti - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vonfritz Contacts here]<br /> * AleksFalcone [mailto:aleks.falcone@gmail.com aleks.falcone@gmail.com] - [[User:AleksFalcone|AleksFalcone]]<br /> * Roberto Previdi [mailto:hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com] - [[User:hariseldon78|hariseldon78]] (also Milano is ok)<br /> <br /> ==== Vicenza ====<br /> <br /> * Michele [mailto:michele@cooperativabiosphaera.it michele(at)cooperativabiosphaera.it] - &lt;br /&gt;Also Padova is okay.<br /> <br /> * Paolo [mailto:paolo.sartore@gmail.com paolo.sartore(at)gmail.com]&lt;br /&gt; Also Padova is okay.<br /> <br /> * Renato [mailto:wasgiventofly@gmail.com wasgiventofly AT gmail DOT com]&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> * Sandro [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vigerty contact me here]&lt;br /&gt; Also Padova is okay.<br /> <br /> * Marco [mailto:marco.napetti@linux.it marco.napetti(at)linux.it]&lt;br /&gt; Also Padova and Verona are ok.<br /> <br /> * Alessandro [mailto:bianco@3ska.com bianco@3ska.com]&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> === Emilia Romagna ===<br /> Status : 5/10<br /> <br /> La proposta, accolta da chi segue il google group, e' di attendere la formalizzazione dell'offerta del rivenditore italiano. Se tutto va bene, avremo il freerunner + gadgets i primi di settembre, con 2 anni di garanzia e prezzo allettante.<br /> Per organizzazione: [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales/browse_thread/thread/b872bf8872180d02?hl=it Emilia Romagna - Gruppo d'acquisto] (Delian)<br /> <br /> ==== Parma ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Delian|Marco Albanese]] [mailto:delian2@gmail.com delian2@gmail.com] For Me, it's ok for the decentralized shipment ( Milano for example :) ).<br /> <br /> * [[User:Hachreak|Leonardo Rossi]] ssj3gokou AT libero Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.<br /> <br /> ==== Ravenna ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...). ( se ti vanno bene ambo le citta' basta dirlo tra parentesi. Cosi', si fa confusione :) )<br /> <br /> ==== Bologna ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:nixy_999|Lorenzo]] nixy_999 AT yahoo Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.<br /> * vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...).<br /> * [[User:lord.of.the.dimm|Mauro]] lord.of.the.dimm AT gmail DOT com decentralized shipping: OK.<br /> <br /> === Puglia (gruppo unico) ===<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Morpheus90|Morpheus90]] [mailto:ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com] Lecce<br /> * [[User:italyanker|italyanker]] [mailto:italyanker@gmail.com italyanker@gmail.com] Lecce<br /> * [[User:Fradeve11|Fradeve11]] [mailto:fradeve@ubuntu-it.org fradeve@ubuntu-it.org] Bari<br /> * [[User:SlackMass|SlackMass]] [mailto:rsvmass@tiscali.it rsvmass@tiscali.it] Taranto<br /> <br /> NB: per eventuali modifiche aggiungere username, mail e provincia di appartenenza.<br /> <br /> === Abruzzo ===<br /> ==== Pescara ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * ZarZ [mailto:zarz25@gmail.com zarz25@gmail.com]<br /> <br /> === Campania ===<br /> ==== Caserta (and province) ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * fenoxxx [mailto:fenoxxx@gmail.com] - Aversa<br /> <br /> === Lazio ===<br /> ==== Roma ====<br /> Status 9/10<br /> <br /> Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Roma)<br /> <br /> La precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> Gruppo 1 (incompleto):&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> * Hire X 2 [mailto:hiretto@gmail.com hiretto@gmail.com] (Roma)<br /> * Darkbasic X 1 [mailto:darkbasic4(at)gmail darkbasic4(at)gmail] (Ancona)<br /> * zione X 1 [mailto:alessio.filipponio@gmail.com alessio.filipponio@gmail.com](Roma)<br /> * AntoMan X 1 [mailto:obe_65@yahoo.it AntoMan](Roma)<br /> * Tempix X 1 [mailto:tempix11@gmail.com tempix11@gmail.com] (Ancona)<br /> * lynx1673 X1 [mailto: acarfi at yahoo dot com] - lynx sei di Roma?<br /> * zullinux X1 [mailto: francesco dot zuliani at gmail dot com] (Roma)<br /> * Lorenzo90 x1 [mailto:lorenzo.catalucci@gmail.com lorenzo.catalucci@gmail.com] (Terni)<br /> <br /> === Liguria ===<br /> ==== Genova ====<br /> Status 5/10<br /> <br /> * Luca Maranzano X 1 (liuk AT linux DOT it) [[User:liuk|liuk]]<br /> * Lorenzo Fornara X 1 (fw1987 AT hotmail DOT it)<br /> * Stefano Cutelle' X 1 (staff@ascservices.it) [[User:ascservices|ascservices]]<br /> * Andrea De Gaetano X 1 (dega1999 AT gmail DOT com) [[User:Dega1999|Dega1999]]<br /> * Salvo Schiavone X 1 (salvoschiavone AT gmail DOT com [[User:Salvador|Salvador]]<br /> <br /> === Sicilia ===<br /> ==== Palermo ====<br /> Status 10/10<br /> <br /> * Giorgio Marciano' X 1 [mailto:giorgio.marciano@email.it giorgio]<br /> * Roberto Calandra X 1 [mailto:isokazi@yahoo.it roberto]<br /> * Vincenzo Moreno Luna X 7 [mailto:ciop85plus@hotmail.com vincenzo]<br /> * Daniele Lupo X 1 [mailto:danwolf80@libero.it daniele]<br /> <br /> ==== Messina ====<br /> Status 6/10<br /> <br /> * Melug X 6 [mailto:suuuper@messinalug.org MeLug]<br /> <br /> === Calabria ===<br /> Status 3/10<br /> <br /> ==== Catanzaro ====<br /> * Carlo Mangani X 1 [mailto:carlo.mangani@gmail.com carlo.mangani@gmail.com] - Lamezia Terme<br /> <br /> ==== Cosenza ====<br /> * Francesco Portus X 1 [mailto:portusgraphics@gmail.com portusgraphics@gmail.com] - Bisignano (Cosenza)<br /> * Silvio Pierro X 1 [mailto:perplesso82@gmail.com perplesso82] - Montalto Uffugo (Cosenza)<br /> <br /> === Sardegna ===<br /> ==== Cagliari ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * Panta x 1 [[User:Panta]]<br /> Viaggio per tutta l'Isola, per cui, nel caso in cui arrivassimo a 10 utenti...<br /> <br /> == Lithuania ==<br /> === Vilnius ===<br /> Status 8/10<br /> * Laurynas Ruškys 7 phones + 2 boards [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crebain Contact me here]<br /> * 1 x Neo FreeRunner, [[Special:Emailuser/Sirex|Mantas Zimnickas]].<br /> <br /> == Macedonia ==<br /> === Skopje ===<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * Kristijan Krsteski 1/10 &lt;br /&gt; [[User:neutrino]] &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:kristijan.krsteski@gmail.com]<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == México ==<br /> === Ciudad de México ===<br /> Status 4/10<br /> <br /> * Kozapatista [[Special:Emailuser/User:kozapatista|Contact]]<br /> * w4r10 (Pulketo) [[User:w4r10]] [[Special:Emailuser/w4r10|Mario Alberto]]<br /> * Osoverflow [[Special:Emailuser/User:medisoft|Contactar]]<br /> * cHaoslOrd [[Special:Emailuser/User:chaoslord|Contactar]]<br /> <br /> === Ciudad Victoria ===<br /> Status 3/10<br /> <br /> * 3x Gregorio Toscano [mailto:gtoscano@cinvestav.mx email]<br /> <br /> == [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands The Netherlands] ==<br /> (Discuss this group sale on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands talk page])<br /> <br /> === Special notice ===<br /> After discussion on the talk page, a number of us have decided to place an individual order at Pulster.eu, because they are cheaper than the group sale discount, and they deliver a receipt with VAT.&lt;br /&gt;<br /> I'd advise the people on this group sale-list to do the same. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> You can indeed place a group order at Pulster.eu, but that won't lower the price, and would only add extra shipping costs. (from the person who made the group-order to the individual members of the group) [[User:Madjo|MadJo]] 11:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> * Marijn Kruisselbrink 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mkruisselbrink|Contact]]<br /> * Andy Powell 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ScaredyCat|Contact]]<br /> * Arjan Veenstra 1/10 [[User:AVee]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:AVee|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Gelderland ===<br /> <br /> ==== Nijmegen ====<br /> * [[User:Blalien|Danny Bouwman]] (Ewijk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Blalien|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Nijkerk ====<br /> * [[User:Nicolas|Nico Veenkamp]] (Nijkerk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Nicolas|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Nijmegen ====<br /> * [[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] (Nijmegen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:A.dre|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Groningen ===<br /> <br /> ==== Haren ====<br /> * [[User:akrabbe|Albert Krabbe]] (Haren 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:akrabbe|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Limburg ===<br /> <br /> ==== Griendtsveen ====<br /> * [[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] (Griendtsveen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:KenSentMe|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Noord-Brabant ===<br /> <br /> ==== Eindhoven ====<br /> * Christ van Willegen 1 [[User:ChristW]]<br /> * Jan van Nijnatten 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Javany|Contact]]<br /> * Atilla Filiz 1 + debug board[[Special:Emailuser/User:Atilla|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Noord Holland ===<br /> <br /> ==== Amsterdam ====<br /> * Michel van Horssen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mivaho|Contact]]<br /> * Frank Richter 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:res|Contact]]<br /> * Eric Smith 1/10 [[User:Eric Smith]]<br /> * Buddy Baars 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Budster|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Beverwijk ====<br /> * Theo Martens 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:T_M|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Bussum ====<br /> * Remco van Zuijlen 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:Remco|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Overijssel ===<br /> <br /> ==== Deventer ====<br /> * Jan de Haan 1/10 [[User:Jan de Haan]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:Jan de Haan|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Enschede ====<br /> * Peter Hageman 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:PingPong|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Hengelo ====<br /> * Sander Hoentjen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Tjikkun|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Zwolle ====<br /> * [[User:Boudewijn]] 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Boudewijn|Contact]]: mail me via mailinglist/mailtouser. Ordered via [http://www.pulster.de pulster!]<br /> <br /> === Zuid-Holland ===<br /> <br /> ==== Rijswijk ====<br /> * Fernando Martins 1x [[User:fmartins]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:fmartins|Contact]]<br /> * Igor 1x [[User:igorn]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:igorn|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Zoetermeer ====<br /> * S.Rademaker 1x [[User:S.rademaker]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:S.rademaker|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Rotterdam ====<br /> * Reinout van Schouwen [[User:reinouts]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:reinouts|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Utrecht ===<br /> <br /> ==== Utrecht ====<br /> * Eric Spierings 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ericsp|Contact]]<br /> * Peter van de Werken 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:PWerken|Contact]]<br /> * Kenny van Wanrooij 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:kenneth|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Status ===<br /> 29/30<br /> <br /> == New Zealand ==<br /> ===Networks===<br /> As Telecom are using the 850MHz network for their GSM network, while Vodafone and northelia (possibly aka orcon) are using 900/1800MHz, please state which version you want. This may need more research, I'm not 100%; see [http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml] for more info&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Shipping===<br /> Based on the Openmoko direct store, shipping is US$258.05 (US$25.81/phone)<br /> <br /> Someone on the community list suggested using [http://www.myus.com], a shipping company that will re-post items overseas at decent rates. They claim US$66 for a 3kg package, or NZ$8 per phone. Of course, the cost of shipping the phone from OM to the shipping company has to be added in as well.<br /> <br /> ===Purchase cost===<br /> As of 2008-07-03 (exchange rate 0.7505), US$369 is worth NZ$492 and US$25.81 is worth NZ$34.39<br /> <br /> ===Duty/taxes/other charges===<br /> import duty on mobile phones is 0%[http://www.customs.govt.nz/importers/Private+Importers/Customs+Charges.htm], and GST is 12.5% so the GST added to each phone will be NZ$65.80; 12.5% * (492 + 34.39), 'cause we pay GST on postage too...<br /> <br /> You'll also need to add on disbursement fees etc. If it's UPS it's not too bad (~NZ$40) if it comes through NZ Post then it can be ~NZ$120.<br /> <br /> So, the total cost of a Freerunner as part of a 10 pack, will be:&lt;br&gt;<br /> 492 + 34.39 + 65.80 = NZ$592.19 + NZ$4 = '''~NZ$596'''<br /> <br /> + any possible charges to get it posted elsewhere in New Zealand.<br /> <br /> Also, for the person buying, don't forget that there is likely charges from VISA for foreign exchange. ASB is 2.1% of the purchase price which will add ~$12.50 ea. to the price.<br /> <br /> '''[http://nicegear.co.nz nicegear]''' may be bringing some in depending on pricing from OpenMoko.<br /> <br /> === Auckland ===<br /> ==== [[Auckland group sales|Auckland]] ====<br /> Status:10 phones requested, the required minimum (10 phones) is reached, but more buyers are still welcome to join.&lt;br&gt;<br /> 13/20&lt;br&gt;<br /> =====Intermediary=====<br /> Glen ogilvie made a suggestion, that we could use a company (e.g. someone's employer, who are likely to have easily found contact details and thus be trustworthy) to buy the phones on our behalf (after we'd paid for them), and then deliver them to us. &lt;br&gt;<br /> any volunteers? do any of you have understanding bosses/your own company that could help out here?&lt;br&gt;<br /> Dave Lane: I think '''[http://egressive.com Egressive]''' would be willing to act as an intermediary. Contact me to discuss it...&lt;br/&gt;<br /> <br /> *Paul Sandkuijl [[User:Edictor]]<br /> Having contacted all the below people who have said they were interested, we only got 6 emails back from people. We need 4 more and we can put in our order. Please [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edictor Contact me here] so that we can get this order underway...<br /> <br /> === Purchaser List ===<br /> *Rob Paulson [[User:Myfanwy]] [mailto:robin.paulson@gmail.com] 900MHz<br /> **i'm quite happy to organise the purchase, if no-one has any objections. to ease any worries about me running off with the money, we could use an escrow service such as [http://safetrader.co.nz], or paypal. or does anyone have any other ideas?<br /> *Simon Wells [[User:Swel024]] 900MHz<br /> *Jeremy List [[User:Jeremy-list]] mailto:quick.dudley@gmail.com (Wellington, not Auckland, will pay for courier) 900MHz<br /> *David Murrell [[User:Viddy]] - [mailto:dmurrell@waikato.ac.nz] I'm in Hamilton, either courier, or I'll drive up :) 900MHz<br /> *Jeremy Gray [[User:Bogdan237]] [mailto:jgra163@ec.auckland.ac.nz] Auckland, 900MHz<br /> *Paul Roe [[User:Par08]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Par08 contact me here] Christchurch, 2 x 900MHz<br /> *Dave Lane [[User:dangerpossum]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dangerpossum contact] Christchurch, 1 x 900MHz + 1800MHz GSM<br /> *Paul Hunkin [[User:paulhunkin]] [mailto:pwh4@cs.waikato.ac.nz Contact] Hamilton (I'll pay for a courier), 1 x 900MHz.<br /> *Paul Sandkuijl [[User:Edictor]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edictor Contact me here] Napier (I'll pay for postage to Napier from Auckland) and I also suggest a PayPal/Safetrader similar service, 1 Vodafone compatible 900/1800MHz.<br /> *Brent Wood [[User:pcreso]] [mailto:pcreso@pcreso.com Email] Wellington. Will pay courier to Wgtn. 1x Vodafone compatible 900/1800Mhz unit<br /> *Glen Ogilvie [[User:Nelg]] [mailto:nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz Email] Auckland, 1x Vodafone compatible 900Mhz.<br /> *Jesse Waas [[User:JTAG]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JTAG contact] Christchurch, 2 x 900MHz + 1800MHz GSM<br /> **Looks like there are a few of us in Christchurch now - is it worth consolidating on this leg too?<br /> **I have used [http://www.myus.com] with success before - though I no longer have an account...<br /> <br /> === Wellington ===<br /> ==== [[Wellington group sales|Wellington]] ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> *Andrew Stephen [[User:lizardb0y]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lizardb0y email me] Wellington, 1 x 900/1800Mhz GSM Vodafone compatible.<br /> <br /> == Norway ==<br /> === Nordland ===<br /> ==== Bodø ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:AlecTBM|Alexander Frøyseth]] [mailto:alexander.froyseth@gmail.com alexander.froyseth@gmail.com]<br /> * Ole Marius<br /> * Stian Vading<br /> * [[User:Kolbjorn.Dahle|Kolbjorn Dahle]][mailto:kolbjorn@dahlenett.org]<br /> <br /> === Sør-Trøndelag ===<br /> ==== Trondheim ====<br /> Status 16/20<br /> <br /> *[[User:andy000|Andreas Kalvå]] [mailto:andy@samfundet.no andy@samfundet.no]<br /> Send mail om du er interessert.<br /> <br /> === Østlandet ===<br /> ==== Oslo, Akershus, Buskerud, Vestfold ====<br /> Status: 30/?? &lt;br/&gt;<br /> 30/30 er bestilt via [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] &lt;br/&gt;<br /> ingen har påtatt seg å bestille inn flere, men det er etterspørsel etter fler.<br /> <br /> * [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] [mailto:heikkis@matnat.uio.no] &lt;br/&gt; (30/30) FULT! Ta likevel kontakt for veiledning. <br /> * [[User:StianEllingsen|Stian Ellingsen]]<br /> <br /> ==== Østfold ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:MrBlonde|Petter Nygård]] [mailto:pettnyg@frisurf.no] &lt;br /&gt;Interessert? -&gt; Mail meg....<br /> * Eirik Lavik<br /> <br /> === Vestlandet ===<br /> ==== Bergen ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:alastairj|Alastair Jenkins]] [mailto:alastair.jenkins@gfi.uib.no]<br /> <br /> == Philippines ==<br /> band: [http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_ph.shtml GSM 900/1800, 3G 2100]<br /> <br /> status:[http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner GSM 900 variant sold out], new stocks due July 25, 2008<br /> <br /> buyer list (1/10):<br /> * [[User:rickynite|Ricky Nite]] [mailto:ricky.nite@gmail.com]: 1 [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Neo FreeRunner], 1 [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/dboard DBoard], 1 [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/spares-pack Spares pack]<br /> <br /> see: PLUG threads: [http://archives.free.net.ph/thread/20080711.040657.c6d7a53b.en.html#20080711.040657.c6d7a53b openmoko] / [http://archives.free.net.ph/thread/20080712.042050.48537833.en.html#20080712.042050.48537833 mobile device platform]<br /> <br /> == Poland ==<br /> <br /> * Special group buy site: http://www.kumulator.pl/show/12 (in edition moment: 9/10)<br /> <br /> == Portugal ==<br /> Portuguese (15/20) who are associates of ANSOL, please consider joining [[TeamANSOL]] (currently 5/10 members).<br /> <br /> Shop is open (currently only 850MHz version available. We want 900MHz): Shipping cost to Portugal for 10-pack: $219.07, ~14 EUR per device.<br /> <br /> We also need to have a cost estimation for Portuguese customs (like the Australians did). 20% sales tax + customs tax is to be expected both for individual or bulk sales, because the price is quite high. But freedom is priceless :)<br /> <br /> [[User:Ruben|Ruben Mendes]] is coordinating the group buy. If you are interested get in touch with him.<br /> <br /> === Aveiro ===<br /> ==== Aveiro ====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * 2 x [[User:Ruben|Ruben Mendes]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * Tiago Brites<br /> * Marcos Monteiro<br /> <br /> === Lisboa ===<br /> ==== Lisboa ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Danielblues Daniel Branco]<br /> * [[User:Pedrosilva|Pedro Silva]]<br /> * Ricardo Sousa ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * [[User:RuiSeabra|Rui Seabra]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasco Vasco Névoa]<br /> * [[User:Jcanelas|José Canelas]]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Brunus Bruno Valentim]<br /> * José Esteves ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lothar_m Bruno Lopes]<br /> <br /> === Porto ===<br /> ==== Porto ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:villate|Jaime Villate]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> <br /> == Sweden ==<br /> We have a google group for discussion about a possible Swedish group order: freerunner-sverige@googlegroups.com, see [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-sverige Svensk Gruppbeställning av Freerunner]. Please join the discussion!<br /> <br /> If insufficient number of people, orders could be merged and remailed perhaps.<br /> <br /> Domestic remailing with Posten as A-class mail of a letter (criteria: length+width+height max 900 mm) weighing max 1 kg, without insurance should [http://www.posten.se/foretag/vara_tjanster/postageguide/postguideLetterDom.jspv cost 44 SEK]. 50 SEK more for insurance.<br /> <br /> If we end up with more than one 10-pack in Sweden, my guess is that it would probably pay to order everything in one shipment to one address in Sweden to save on the international shipping, and then remail domestically.<br /> <br /> === Götaland ===<br /> ==== Göteborg ====<br /> <br /> * [[User:Fwendt|Fredrik Wendt]] [[Special:Emailuser/Fwendt|Contact]]/wendt.se<br /> <br /> ==== Malmö ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * Lars Jarlvik &lt;br /&gt; mailto:lars@larsfactory.se<br /> <br /> === Svealand ===<br /> ==== Stockholm ====<br /> Status : 6/10<br /> <br /> * Adam Johansson &lt;br /&gt; <br /> * Lowe Schmidt &lt;br /&gt; mailto:lowe.schmidt@gmail.com<br /> * Johan Erlands &lt;br /&gt; mailto:johan.erlands@gmail.com<br /> * [[User:Joel | Joel Metelius ]] [[Special:Emailuser/Joel | (contact)]] 1 phone + 1 debug (if possible)<br /> * Peter Wihlner &lt;br /&gt; mailto:info@faktor.nu<br /> <br /> ==== Västerås ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> * Jörgen Lidholm, could join the Falun/Borlänge or Stockholm group &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:jorgen.lidholm@gmail.com]<br /> * John Törnblom, can also join the Stockholm group &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:f04jto@student.lth.se]<br /> <br /> === Norrland ===<br /> ==== Umeå ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Benjamin|Benjamin]] [[Special:Emailuser/Benjamin|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Luleå ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:mh|mh]] 1 unit, mailto:mh@rcc.se If not up to 10 by launch. i'd join any group and either pick it up or have it remailed nationally<br /> <br /> == Switzerland ==<br /> <br /> 1x 10 Pack ordered from pulster for the group Zürich! Read more below --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 17:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''???''' should organize the 3 x 10pack for Zürich &lt;br /&gt;<br /> Luca Capello could organize the 10pack for Geneva. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> Mathieu will organisze the 2 x 10pack for Lausanne EPFL CH-fr &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> All payment in advance (a 10pack will cost approx 3'800 USD). &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> '''Probably we will organize shippings, if we cannot all move to Zürich/Genève/Lausanne to get our Neo.'''<br /> <br /> ''François Bianco is trying to create a new group of 10 (will be mostly for French Switzerland). -&gt; The group moved to the EPFL group, which will try to reach 20 persons. --[[User:Fbianco|Fbianco]] 11:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)''&lt;br /&gt;<br /> ''Gabriel Ambuehl would volunteer to order the initial 10pack. &lt;- still accurate ? -&gt; Gabriel will not organize the 10packs for Zürich due to not being in Switzerland. We are in contact to find a solution so please wait until we know what to do. Order in Germany (each for himself or as a group, not clear yet) could be as cheap as a 10pack. We are in contact with pulster.de and will be contacted form pulster about the price. We will contact you guys in the Zürich list as soon as we know more --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 10:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)''&lt;br /&gt;<br /> ''Alexandre Ghisoli will not organize the second 10pack, since the order moved in the Lucca's group.'' &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> === Customs and Postage ===<br /> I called the [http://www.ezv.admin.ch/index.html?lang=en Swiss Federal Customs Administration] and it seems that we only need to pay VAT (7.6%) and the UPS taxes as well (since the parcel will be sent through UPS). Thus I called [http://www.ups.com/content/ch/en/contact/ UPS] and it seems that UPS directly pays the VAT instead of the customer, then asking the customer for refund (plus a fixed tax of EUR13.00). So I think the following per-phone cost for a Swiss bulk order should be a good estimate.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> |'''Bulk Order'''<br /> |'''USD'''<br /> |'''CHF'''<br /> |-<br /> |Customs Value (Cval)<br /> |3690.00<br /> |3837.60<br /> |-<br /> |Postage<br /> |160.00<br /> |166.40<br /> |-<br /> |Value of Taxable Importation (VoTI) = Cval+Postage<br /> |3850.00<br /> |4004.00<br /> |-<br /> |VAT = 7.6% of VoTI<br /> |292.60<br /> |304.30<br /> |-<br /> |UPS fixed tax (EUR13.00)<br /> |20.00<br /> |20.80<br /> |-<br /> |Total Cost<br /> |4162.60<br /> |4329.10<br /> |-<br /> |'''Per Person'''<br /> |'''416.26'''<br /> |'''432.91'''<br /> |}<br /> <br /> Figures accurate as of 4th Jun 2008 from [http://www.ubs.com/1/e/index/bcqv/calculator.html UBS]: 1EUR = 1.54USD and 1USD = 1.04CHF.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ==== Shipping ====<br /> If we would ship Neos, here is the Swiss PostPac prices :<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> ! Description<br /> ! Size [cm]<br /> ! Price CHF TTC<br /> |-<br /> | Size 1<br /> | 22.9 x 14.7 x 9.9<br /> | 2.20<br /> |-<br /> | Size 2<br /> | 31.5 x 22.5 x 12.5<br /> | 2.40<br /> |-<br /> | Shipping Priority<br /> | up to 2Kg<br /> | 8.-<br /> |-<br /> | Shipping Economy<br /> | up to 2Kg<br /> | 6.-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> Steve posted informations about boxes that will be out with Neo :<br /> <br /> * 10 pack : 435mm x 371mm x 119mm, approx 3kg, UPS will charge 160USD (need to be verified)<br /> * Individual pack : 178mm x 104mm x 84mm, 237 grams<br /> <br /> So size 1 will fit ! Local delivery in Switzerland will cost 8.20 for Economy or 10.20 Priority.<br /> <br /> ==== Zurich ====<br /> <br /> ===== Pulster.de order (already ordered and on their way!) =====<br /> I organized already an order from Pulster.de due to the best conditions:<br /> * 299 Euro - 19% German sales tax = 249 Euro<br /> * 249 Euro + 7,6% Swiss sales tax<br /> * evtl. some border taxes<br /> * no shipping costs! (pulster sends for free)<br /> * 2 Years warranty<br /> <br /> The conditions to get a device from me:<br /> * As soon as I have them i will contact you<br /> * You pick up your device in Winterthur<br /> * You pay me cash (you will not get a device before I have the money in my hands)<br /> * You bring the correct amount of money (I can't give return)<br /> * I will _not_ raise the price for my profit. You pay what I pay<br /> <br /> So add yourself to the list here if you want one:&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Status : 10/10 -&gt; full &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Esra Kummer (3 Geräte!) (Winterthur)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tuxfux.ch Contact]<br /> * Simon Wenner (Schaffhausen)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nowic Contact]<br /> * Markus Huggler (Winterthur)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]<br /> * Simon Schreiber (Zurich) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]<br /> * Hannes Wyss (Zurich) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]<br /> * Felix Rabe (Basel/Romanshorn) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Felixrabe Contact]<br /> * Carlos Diener (Winterthur) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Emonkey Contact]<br /> * Walter Sutter (Winterthur) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Seraphim Contact]<br /> <br /> <br /> '''Organising the next 10Pack'''<br /> <br /> I will organice the next 10pack as soon as this list is full. You may Pick up the Phone at the ETH Zürich (money: exact amount in cash or directly to my bank-account in advance) or I will send it to you (money: directly to my bank-account in advance including the Porto). The other conditions are the same as above. (Joerg Maeder/Goergel)<br /> * Joerg Maeder (Opfikon) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/goergel Contact]<br /> * Silvio Heuberger (Lachen)&lt;br/&gt; Will pick up on Polyterrasse, pay cash [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kungfoo Contact]<br /> <br /> <br /> Status : 11/30 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''Contact person who order the 10Pack : ??'''<br /> <br /> <br /> * Andre Timmermann &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]<br /> * Pascal Weller &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]<br /> * Nick Zbinden (Luzern)&lt;br /&gt; [mailto:nickik@gmx.ch] oder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nickik Contact]<br /> * Marcel Lütolf (Luzern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/NeRo Contact]<br /> * Martin Kos &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KoS Contact]<br /> * Philipp Hug (St. Gallen) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Philipphug Contact]<br /> * Tropechopf (Luzern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tropechopf Contact]<br /> * Alex Ingold (Interlaken)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ingoldey Contact]<br /> * Alex Aeschlimann (Bern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alexae Contact]<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Basel-Stadt ====<br /> <br /> ===== Pulster.de order (Adrian Rudin) already ordered =====<br /> I will organize one order like Tuxfux.ch did.<br /> * 299 Euro - 19% German sales tax + 7,6% Swiss sales tax = 270.4 Euro<br /> * 270.4 Euro * 1.68 = 454.3 CHF<br /> * I chose a higher change value to inlcude border charges, everything that's left will be donated to Wikimedia.<br /> * no shipping costs! (pulster sends for free)<br /> * 2 Years warranty<br /> * For people in Bern: Lorenz Schori would pick up your devices as well an distribute them to you in Bern.<br /> <br /> The conditions to get a device from me:<br /> * You have to pay in advance, please send me an E-Mail to receive account informations.<br /> * As soon as I have all 10 payments I will order the 10 pack<br /> * You pick up your device in Basel, 1 or 2 exceptions can be made!<br /> * I raised the price to include border charges, everything not used for the order will be donated to Wikimedia.<br /> <br /> !! The order has been placed. Pulster.de will start delivery again on July 25th !!<br /> <br /> So add yourself to the list here if you want one:&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Status : 10/10 FULL! (#: have payed)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * # Adrian Rudin (Basel) [mailto:adrian@mav.ch] or [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/blackmav Contact]<br /> * # Thomas Jund (Aarau) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/none Contact]<br /> * # Peter Salvisberg (Wettingen) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Psal Contact]<br /> * # Christian Corrodi [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matto Contact]<br /> * # Lorenz Schori (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Znerol Contact]<br /> * # Philipp Meier (Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/PhilippMeier Contact]<br /> * Mathias Born (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Thisss Contact]<br /> * Pascal Mages (Bern/Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/FreeMind Contact]<br /> * Marcel Jost (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Onsonic Contact]<br /> * Marcel Wirth (Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Skarhand Contact] <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Geneve ====<br /> Status : 10/10 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''Contact person who order the 10Pack : Luca Capello &lt;br /&gt;'''<br /> WARNING, this list already contains 10 people! -- LucaCapello<br /> <br /> * Diego Abelenda&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Aelia Contact]<br /> * Luca Capello&lt;br /&gt; [mailto:luca@pca.it]<br /> * Nicolas Produit&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Produit Contact]<br /> * Sebastien Nanchen &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sn Contact]<br /> * Matthieu de Montmollin &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matthieudem Contact]<br /> * Robin Farine (Auvernier)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rfarine Contact]<br /> * Alexandre Ghisoli (Yverdon)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Agh Contact]<br /> * Raphael Studer (Thurgau) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tschudder Contact]<br /> * Christian Wäckerlin &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/boognu Contact]<br /> * Michael Stähli (Lausanne EPFL) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/adler Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== Suisse romande / Lausanne (EPFL) ====<br /> Status : 26/30 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''Contact person who order the 10Packs : [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Mathieu Habegger] &lt;br /&gt;'''<br /> <br /> * Mathieu Habegger (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Contact]<br /> * Matthias Brändli (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hb9egm Contact]<br /> * Frédéric Fokan(Lausanne) &lt;br /&gt;[mailto:fredericfokan@gmail.com Contact]<br /> * Gulu (Lausanne) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gulu Contact]<br /> * Edomaur (Lausanne, with Gulu) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edomaur Contact]<br /> * Layx (Lausanne) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Layx Contact]<br /> * Mélanie Baumann (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/calis Contact]<br /> * Laurent Fasnacht (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://gnugeneration.epfl.ch/users/fasnacht Contact]<br /> * Urs Blaser (UNIL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/arctus Contact]<br /> * David Lütolf (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dlutolf Contact]<br /> * François Bianco &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/fbianco Contact]<br /> * Samuel Dorsaz &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/akira Contact]<br /> * Ludovic Fardel (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lfardel Contact]<br /> * David Pelichet &lt;br /&gt;Contact via hb9egm&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Vincent Hentsch &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vincos Contact]<br /> * Carruzzo Gilles &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Willows Contact]<br /> * Nicolas Favrod-Coune &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nfavrod Contact]<br /> * Mathias Coinchon &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Coinchon Contact]&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Rey Cyril (Monthey) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cyril Contact]<br /> * Didier Raboud (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OdyX Contact]<br /> * Claude Angéloz &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/claude-elrond740 Contact]<br /> * Pascal Bach (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Anakron Contact]<br /> * Nicolas Etienne (Gimel) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nice Contact]<br /> * Michel Dänzer (Bern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrCooper Contact]<br /> * Yvon-Philippe Crittin&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/y-phil Contact]<br /> * Philippe Gimmel&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kampfgarten Contact]<br /> <br /> Persons who went lonely orders :<br /> * Philipp Aeberli (2 Units, Gland)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/philgood Contact]<br /> <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''''The list was extended to 30'''''&lt;br /&gt;<br /> 4 are still remaining !&lt;br /&gt;''--[[User:Habi|Habi]] 11:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Suisse romande / Morges ====<br /> <br /> I'll order a pack for Switzerland people. The price of FreeRunner will be 460 CHF all inclusive (VAT and shipping in your post box)<br /> Contact me here: [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jecuendet Contact] if you want one.<br /> We are already 6, so 4 remaining. Contact me at : jec at jesc dot ch<br /> <br /> == Spain ==<br /> === Spain (Country Group Sale) ===<br /> Status: 25/30<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/IberiaGroupSale España-Portugal group Sale via pulster.com]<br /> <br /> ordering 23 July<br /> <br /> Interested cities:Aveiro,Lisboa,Portugal,Barcelona,Zaragoza,Valencia,Tenerife,Cordoba,Pontedeume(A Coruña)<br /> <br /> === Madrid ===<br /> ==== Madrid ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MadridGroupSale Madrid Group Sale update (payment, shipment, etc)]<br /> <br /> Ordering aprox. 16th July (Pulster.de)<br /> <br /> Local delivery in central Madrid<br /> <br /> * 5 phones Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz (Group manager) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Pabloruiz contact me here URGENTLY!]<br /> <br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Carlos Padilla Sorbas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:cymonline contact me here]<br /> <br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Troy|Alvaro Garcia Roy]] 1 phone<br /> <br /> * [[User:peeloo | Alexandre Girard]] 1 phone<br /> <br /> * Others 2 phones<br /> <br /> People that canceled their commitment for now:<br /> <br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Rafael Campos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Methril Contact] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> * [[User:kresp0 | Santiago Crespo]] 1 phone<br /> <br /> Vacancies for the scheduled order: 0 BUT you can still apply for one!<br /> <br /> === Barcelona ===<br /> ==== Barcelona ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> WARNING, this list already contains 10 people!<br /> <br /> * José Luis Pérez &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/jluis|Contact]]<br /> * David Reyes Samblas Martinez&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/mutrox|Contact]]<br /> * Sergio Arias &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/saerguio|Contact]]<br /> * Alex Muntada &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/alexm|Contact]]<br /> * Pascal co &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/pascalco|Contact]]<br /> * Antonio Rodríguez ( x2 )&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/AntonioR|Contact]]<br /> * Miquel Adell Borràs &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/Hanoc|Contact]]<br /> * Arturo Giner&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/artginer|Contact]]<br /> * Robert Millan&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/rmh|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Valencia ===<br /> ==== Valencia ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * Pau Gaspar Díaz &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/pau|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Islas Canarias ===<br /> ==== Tenerife ====<br /> Status : 5/10<br /> <br /> * Enrique Hernández Bello &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/SiNiESTrO|Contact]]<br /> * Alberto Morales Díaz &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/amd77|Contact]]<br /> * Teresa González de la Fe &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/Tgdelafe|Contact]]<br /> * Jesús Torres &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/Aplatanado|Contact]]<br /> * Juan Gregorio Regalado Pacheco &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/goyoregalado|Contact]]<br /> <br /> == UAE ==<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Yaser Ammar &lt;br /&gt; [[Special:Emailuser/Waraqa|Contact]]<br /> <br /> == USA ==<br /> === Arizona ===<br /> ==== Tucson ====<br /> Willing to reship to nonlocal people within the US (cheaper if you're closer), or get absorbed into another group that's willing to reship. In talks with Boulder (Colorado) group.<br /> <br /> Status: 3/10<br /> * [mailto:wes.shull@gmail.com wesshull] Wes Shull - 1x GTA02 + 1x debug board<br /> * Richard Reichenbacher - 2x GTA02<br /> <br /> === Colorado ===<br /> ==== Boulder ====<br /> Status: 10/10<br /> * Vinc Duran x2 (I can purchase and distribute locally) &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:uberpfloyd@gmail.com?subject=Openmoko%20group%20sales Pfloyd] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pfloyd Contact]<br /> * John Miller &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jwm jwm]<br /> * D Padilla &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Joey Stanford &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/k0fcc k0fcc]<br /> * J Hinegardner &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jjh jjh]<br /> * S Derrick of New Mexico x2 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * R Schwarz &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rschwarz rschwarz]<br /> <br /> ==== Denver (Full) ====<br /> Status: 10/10 (includes the gentleman from Utah)<br /> * Shawn Sullivan &lt;br /&gt; [[mailto:shelbydz87@yahoo.com shelbydz87@yahoo.com]]<br /> * Peter Abplanalp &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alderion Contact]<br /> * Ben Burdette &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ansible Contact]<br /> * Tom Russell &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tazbert Contact]<br /> * Trace &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gnork Contact]<br /> * Michael Irons &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/iron999mike Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== Fort Collins ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Paul Hummer &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rockstar Contact]<br /> <br /> === California ===<br /> ==== Los Angeles ====<br /> Status: 0/10<br /> <br /> * Ian Douglas, Santa Monica &lt;br /&gt; I'll help organize a group sale, meet &amp; greet, but since I was selected to help test the Freerunner, I won't need to actually purchase one. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iandouglas Contact me here]<br /> * Matthew Wetmore, Westchester 90045 &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wetmoko Contact] - part of order 1843<br /> * Daniel, Torrance &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Beaker82 Contact] - part of order 1843<br /> * James Robertson, Irvine &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JamesRobertson Contact] - part of order 1843<br /> * Bill Sun &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/DancingSun Contact] - part of order 1843<br /> * Michael, Santa Monica &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bstudios Contact] - part of order 1843<br /> * Russel Dwiggins, Cerritos &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/undrwater Contact] - part of order 1843<br /> * Dima, Pasadena &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dima Contact] - part of order 1843<br /> * Mike, Santa Monica (1 unit + 1 debug board)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Traveler Contact] - part of order 1843<br /> * Joe Smith, Orange &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Yasumoto Contact] - part of order 1843<br /> * Jose Torres, Hollywood &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jtorres Contact] - part of order 1843<br /> <br /> ==== San Diego ====<br /> <br /> Status: 10/10 - full<br /> <br /> Includes North County, Riverside, Tijuana, etc. 10 pack has been ordered. <br /> <br /> * Peter Naulls, Carlsbad (South)/Mira Mesa (near Qualcomm) - will coordinate - contact me for details.&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pnaulls Contact]<br /> * Tracy Reed &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/treed Contact]<br /> * Paul Breed &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbreed Contact]<br /> * Greg Davidson &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JGregD Contact]<br /> * Larry Riedel &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:Larry@Riedel.org Contact]<br /> * David Wilhelm &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bluefir Contact]<br /> * Jim McLaughlin - could move to LA group if needed as other company office is near LAX&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rpq Contact]<br /> * Adam Hughes &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ajinxa Contact]<br /> * Rob Walker &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/RobWalker Contact]<br /> * Brian S. Dobrovodsky &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:bsdvodsky@gmail.com Contact]<br /> <br /> Status: 2/10<br /> <br /> * Urivan Flores &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/saaib Contact]<br /> * Alan Domissy &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/geomarcomputers Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== San Francisco Bay Area ====<br /> (Discuss this group sale on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#San_Francisco_Bay_Area talk page])<br /> <br /> Status 5/10<br /> * Anton Bogdanov - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vahi Contact] (San Francisco)<br /> <br /> * Tupshin Harper - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tupshin Contact]<br /> <br /> * Sebastian Coe - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savari Contact]<br /> <br /> * Jim Lutz - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JLutz Contact]<br /> <br /> * Elektrolott - (Cash, 900MHz) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Elektrolott Contact] (San Jose). &lt;br&gt; I am back on the list, as the [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner online store] says: GSM 900Mhz variant stock is due on on July 25th. &lt;br&gt;I am also interested in getting a debug board.<br /> <br /> === Florida ===<br /> ==== South/Central Florida ====<br /> Status 3/10<br /> * 1 x Jonathan Howard [[Special:Emailuser/kingtgaurd9|Contact]], Orlando <br /> * 1 x Jim [[Special:Emailuser/gumbukie|Contact]], Orlando<br /> * 1 x Lenny Markus [[Special:Emailuser/lensam69|Contact]], Miami<br /> <br /> === Idaho ===<br /> ==== Southwestern Idaho ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> * 1 × Eugene Kravtsov [[Special:Emailuser/theUg|Contact]], Garden City (Boise).<br /> * 1 × Christopher Blay [[Special:Emailuser/blayde|Contact]], Twin Falls.<br /> <br /> === Midwest ===<br /> '''(combine Illinois / Iowa / Tennesee / Texas / Wisconsin)'''<br /> Status: 10/10<br /> * Steven M [[Special:Emailuser/Montgoss|Contact]] - Cedar Rapids, IA<br /> * Joseph Booker [[Special:Emailuser/Sargas|Contact]] - Chicago, IL<br /> * Matt McCormick [[Special:Emailuser/Thewtex|Contact]] - Madison, WI<br /> * Charles Hill [mailto:charles.e.hill@gmail.com email] - Chicago, IL<br /> * Greg Bonett [mailto:greg@bonett.org email] - Iowa City, IA<br /> * Tushar Dayal [mailto:tdayal@gmail.com Contact] - Ames, IA<br /> * solomon jacob herscovitch [[Special:Emailuser/SoloSalsa|Contact]] - Chicago, IL<br /> * Eric Olson [mailto:ericools@gmail.com Contact] - Madison, WI<br /> * Tom Watson [[Special:Emailuser/Toggles|Contact]] - Pittsburgh, PA<br /> * An-Phong Le [mailto:an427@hotmail.com Contact] - Urbana, IL<br /> * Ed Marshall [[Special:Emailuser/Logic|Contact]] - Aurora, IL<br /> <br /> === Kentucky === <br /> (Possibly + 2 from Memphis?)<br /> Status: 8/10 (Possibly 10?)<br /> * Dan Staley [[Special:Emailuser/Pyrasi|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * Donnie Jones [[Special:Emailuser/Donniejones18|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * John Sterling [[Special:Emailuser/Sterling|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * James MacLachlan [[Special:Emailuser/Jmaclachlan|Contact]] (Louisville, KY)<br /> * John Askew [[Special:Emailuser/Johnaskyou|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * Devin Cook [[Special:Emailuser/Dcook|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * Geoff Ruscoe [[Special:Emailuser/Geocode|Contact]] - Louisville, KY<br /> * Jon Howard [[Special:Emailuser/Jchoward|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> <br /> === Ohio / Michigan ===<br /> Status: 10/10 are delivered or en-route to their final destination.<br /> <br /> === Pacific Northwest ===<br /> ==== Oregon ====<br /> Status: 3/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Washington group) <br /> ===== Eugene =====<br /> * Quentin Hartman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/qhartman|Contact]] Willing to organize the Oregon group buy and/or be absorbed into another Pacific NW group if too few locals sign up.<br /> ===== Corvallis =====<br /> * Brian Wilson (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Brian_H_Wilson|Contact]] (in Corvallis actually)<br /> * Gary Oliver (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Adastra|Contact]] Also in Corvallis.<br /> <br /> ==== Washington ====<br /> ===== Seattle Area =====<br /> Status: 7/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Oregon group)<br /> * Jon Pomeroy (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Jepomeroy|Contact]]<br /> * Chris Baker (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/cwainb|Contact]]<br /> * Mark Zimmerman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mawazi|Contact]]<br /> * Wim Lewis (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Wiml|Contact]] In Wallingford.<br /> * Charles Wheeler (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/SnowWolf75|Contact]] Note: Work in Bellevue, live in Federal Way. May not have money till mid-July.<br /> * G.O. (Status confirmed) I'd like to get @ least one.<br /> * Matt Luzum (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mluzum|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Tennessee ===<br /> ==== Memphis ====<br /> Status: 2/10<br /> * Peter O'Connor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/poconnor Contact]<br /> * Jarvis Stubblefield (Prefer with Debug) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BallisticPain Contact]<br /> <br /> === Texas ===<br /> ==== Austin (15/10) ====<br /> * Dale Schumacher [[Special:Emailuser/dalnefre|Contact]]<br /> * Michael Cosby [[Special:Emailuser/mcosby|Contact]]<br /> * Paul Jimenez [[Special:Emailuser/pj|Contact]]<br /> * Charles [[Special:Emailuser/rbn|Contact]]<br /> * Anthony Kitchin [[Special:Emailuser/akitchin|Contact]]<br /> * Carl (x2) [[Special:Emailuser/texatopia|Contact]]<br /> * Robert (+Debug Board) [[Special:Emailuser/SHaRK|Contact]] (Houston)<br /> * Bryan DeLuca [[Special: Emailuser/Stupkid|Contact]] (Fort Worth)<br /> * Dennis Parker [[Special: Emailuser/dparker|Contact]]<br /> * Chip Rosenthal [[Special: Emailuser/chip|Contact]]<br /> * Brad Mouring [[Special: Emailuser/Bmouring|Contact]]<br /> * Joel Greenberg [[Special: Emailuser/joelg|Contact]]<br /> * Hans Loeblich [[Special: Emailuser/Peepsalot|Contact]]<br /> * Mark Rinaudo [[Special:Emailuser/Mrinaudo|Contact]]<br /> * Scott Farrell [[Special:Emailuser/sfarrell|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Dallas (4/10) ====<br /> * Philip White [[Special:Emailuser/pmw|Contact]]<br /> * Stephen Shelton [[Special:Emailuser/stephenashelton|Contact]]<br /> * Josh Valdez [[Special:Emailuser/ExxonValdeez|Contact]]<br /> * Chris Madsen [[Special:Emailuser/cjm|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Mid-Atlantic ===<br /> ==== District of Columbia (DC) Metro Area ====<br /> * Brian DeRocher [[Special:Emailuser/brian_252|email]]<br /> ==== Virginia====<br /> ===== Virginia Tech (1/10) =====<br /> * Lally Singh [[Special:Emailuser/lally|email]] -- yeah, if you're ordering anywhere in VA, lemme know.&lt;br /&gt;<br /> ===== Richmond=====<br /> *Philippe and Steve joined the NY list&lt;br/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== New York (20/20) ====<br /> As of 8 July 2008 we still need five people to pay in order to complete a second batch of ten. Just because there are twenty names on this list doesn't mean you can't join in.<br /> PLEASE contact Bert or Michael in addition to adding yourself to the list<br /> * Bert Hartmann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BertHartm Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Michael Cole mailto:mjcole137@gmail.com &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Remy Frerebeau [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rfrerebe Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Ulises E. Erickson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ulix Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Justin Daly [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/justo Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Philippe Gerard [[Special:Emailuser/feydreva|Contact]] I live in Richmond (VA) but we will never be 10 there&lt;br/&gt;<br /> * Evan Charlton mailto:evancharlton+om@gmail.com &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Paul Buede mailto:paul@buede.com &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced)Paul Hurlock [[Special:Emailuser/triclosan|Contact me here]] &lt;br/&gt;<br /> * Ryan [[Special:Emailuser/ryan|Contact me here]] (Connecticut, actually, but close enough.) &lt;br/&gt;<br /> * Charles Pax mailto:charles.pax@gmail.com It looks like things are getting organized. Bert contacted me.<br /> * Christopher Pax mailto:christopher.pax@gmail.com<br /> * Miki Grof-Tisza [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MTisza Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Daniel Dadap 1x [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/danek Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Yaroslav Halchenko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/yarikoptic]<br /> * Craig Woodward [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Woody14619|Contact here] or mailto:woody14619@yahoo.com Up-state &amp; will require re-ship.<br /> * Alex [[Special:Emailuser/rakukin|Contact]]<br /> * Charles Lohr [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cnlohr Contact me here] (Lives in MD, will require re-ship) NOTE: Unless someone emails me before July 7 I will withdraw from group order. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Steve Watson [[Special:Emailuser/Ssw0213|Contact]] I live in Richmond VA; please deliver via Philippe Gerard. 20!!!&lt;br/&gt;<br /> * xtrat [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xtrat Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Maryland (0/10)====<br /> (Group apparently defunct due to NY Order)<br /> * Paul Buede I switched to New York, cause we don't have enough. Look up ^ &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Charles Lohr -- Switched to New York (if possible)<br /> * Alex (switched to NYC, see above; may be able to deliver phone(s) to DC metro)<br /> <br /> ==== North Carolina (2/10)====<br /> * Jason Sharpee [[Special:Emailuser/zonyl|Contact]] - Charlotte Metro area &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * William Vidrine [[Special:Emailuser/Infoport|Contact]] - Greensboro/Triad, DROPPED OUT for individual order &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Joe White [[Special:Emailuser/Raygions|Contact]] - Winston-Salem/Triad area &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> === Massachusetts ===<br /> Status: 10/10 (Our phones are here. Contact Ken Young to pick up your 'runner. We will try to arrange some kind of iTunes activation fiasco to brick them all.)<br /> * Benjamin Moody [[Special:Emailuser/FloppusMaximus|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Ken Young, Cambridge (Note, if we're not up to 10/10 on the day the Freerunner is announced, I'm going to drop out and order individually).[[Special:Emailuser/Dolson|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Chris White (for 2) [[Special:Emailuser/Safire|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Nick Dube - Pembroke, NH (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Doobe01 Contact]<br /> <br /> * Justin Brzozoski - Worcester, MA area [[Special:Emailuser/Jabski|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * John Nicholson - Amherst, MA (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/nicklogan|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Matthew Campbell - Worcester, MA [[Special:Emailuser/lifeisafractal|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Jeff Gold [[Special:Emailuser/jgold|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Craig Allen [[Special:Emailuser/knodalyte|Contact]]<br /> <br /> Status: 7/10<br /> <br /> * Bala Nair - Acton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/bnair|Contact]]<br /> * Mike Doody - Groton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/dude|Contact]]<br /> * 0x Nathan Perry - Derry, NH (cannot switch to GSM at this time)<br /> * Kyle Harrington - Amherst, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/dancingcuziwanna|Contact]]<br /> * Ryan Svoboda - Worcester, MA (Will buy one individually on release day if this group is incomplete) [[Special:Emailuser/ryansv|Contact]]<br /> * Ryan Meador - Worcester, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/Yanroy|Contact]]<br /> * Jeff Gelbard - Haydenville, MA [[Special:Emailuser/jgelbard|Contact]]<br /> (Between the 2 groups, we already have 7 &quot;visibly&quot; from Worchester - Western MA...I think the group should be resorted....Who is the contact where the package will be sent?)<br /> <br /> === Nevada ===<br /> ==== Reno/Sparks ====<br /> Including Northwestern Nevada/ Northeastern California<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Tyrell Berry [[Special:Emailuser/Alawatsakima|Contact]]<br /> <br /> == UK ==<br /> <br /> * Stroller (Milton Keynes, can travel) &lt;br /&gt;mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk 01908 663 513. &lt;br /&gt;Thinks that breaking the UK up into regions - at least outside London - is silly. There are unlikely to be 10 people in $your_town who want a Freerunner, so some posting of Freerunners will surely be required; see [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Oxford the talk page]. This is the same cost anywhere in the UK.<br /> <br /> === Scotland ===<br /> ==== Edinburgh ====<br /> Status : 3/10<br /> * Joe Wells (Edinburgh) [http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~jbw/ Web] I have two comments:<br /> ** The Wiki's e-mail feature (those URLs with “Special:Emailuser” in them) does not seem to be working. I tried contacting Dave Ball and Stuart MacKinnon that way and got no reply. Later, Stuart and Dave (who I reached by writing a message here) told me they never got the e-mail. So the Wiki's e-mail feature might be broken. So please contact me by going to my web page and using my e-mail address listed there. Stuart, George, and Dave have been in contact with me by e-mail. I am happy to put anyone in Scotland who sends me e-mail in touch with the others.<br /> ** Not enough people have gotten in touch so far (as of 2008-06-28) to justify a bulk order of a 10-pack. Also, there is now a UK distributor: [https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=OpenMoko TrueBox]. Because TrueBox appears to be ordering 10-packs (and thereby getting the bonus goodies (headphones and pouches) that come in the 10-packs), it seems there is little motivation to try to organize a Scottish bulk order. So I am likely to give up on the idea of a Scottish bulk order for myself (unless lots of people contact me in the next day or so!).<br /> * Dave Ball (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Daveb Contact]<br /> * george Maistros (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mordilo_k Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== Glasgow ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * Kyle Gordon [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kylegordon Contact]<br /> * Sean Anderson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Moniker42 Contact]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;Kenny Duffus [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sealne Contact]&lt;/s&gt; ordered from truebox<br /> <br /> === England ===<br /> <br /> ==== Hampshire ====<br /> <br /> Status: 16/20 at 2008-05-24<br /> <br /> http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FreerunnerBulkBuy<br /> <br /> Willing to re-ship within the UK.<br /> <br /> (Sorry, we set up the page before we knew about this one)<br /> <br /> ==== London ====<br /> <br /> Status : 13/10<br /> <br /> <br /> * aled &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aled Contact]<br /> * Robert Piasek (actually in Southampton)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Queen6 Contact]<br /> * Tom Scholl (Cambridge, travel to London now and then anyway so could pick up) &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:thomasscholl@gmail.com]<br /> * Weiss (Cambridge, could collect from London) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Weiss Contact]<br /> * Neil Bentley (in Wiltshire) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ohnez Contact]<br /> * &lt;strike&gt;rhn x 2 &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rhn Contact] &lt;/strike&gt; (moved)<br /> * Tim Coggins&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Contact]<br /> * Michele Mattioni (I'm based in Cambridge too, but if Tom can go to London I can grab the phone in Cambridge) &lt;br /&gt;[mailto:mattions@gmail.com]<br /> * Ben F-W (Fulham, London) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/benfw Contact]<br /> * T. Chan (Cambridge, vaguely knows Weiss) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/TC Contact]<br /> * Rob Paulson (Derby, but will be visiting London in July) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Myfanwy Contact]<br /> * Mario &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Spirer Contact]<br /> * David Pottage (actually in Reading)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chrestomanci Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== West Midlands ====<br /> Status : 3/10<br /> <br /> * Mo Abrahams (Walsall) &lt;br /&gt; mailto:moabrahams@dashavoo.com<br /> * Jonathan Spooner (Walsall)<br /> * E. Lucretiu (Stafford) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lucretiu Contact]<br /> <br /> == Latvia ==<br /> === Riga ===<br /> ==== Riga ====<br /> Status : 3/10<br /> * Ilya [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/VRGhost Contact]<br /> * Arvids [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Arvids Contact]<br /> * Uldis [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ulcha Contact]<br /> <br /> == Singapore ==<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> * Wee Kiam Peng [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jipi Contact]<br /> * Chen Ruo Fei [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crf Contact]<br /> * Moritz Haeberle [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Morid Contact]<br /> * Nicolas Lannuzel [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nlannuzel Contact]<br /> <br /> == Israel==<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> * Ofer Herman &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/oferhe Contact]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Talba Talba]<br /> * Dan &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Da-x Contact]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nuker18 Vladi]<br /> <br /> == Czech Republic ==<br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;<br /> '''Tato skupina byla uzavřena!'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> Koordinátorem objednávání je Martin Šenkeřík [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]<br /> &lt;/div&gt;<br /> === Aktuálně ===<br /> Sledujte organizaci Brněnského předání telefonů: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Brno_2<br /> *'''Můžu mít od Pulstera 5 originálních OpenMoko baterií do FreeRunnera, každou za 350Kč, což je o 100Kč míň než za oficiální cenu. Bude zájem? Pište do diskuse. Spěchá.'''<br /> *'''13.7. - Konečné ceny:'''<br /> FreeRunner = 7300Kč<br /> Debug board = 2400Kč<br /> Obal = 460Kč<br /> Headset = 220Kč<br /> Zaurus stylus = 120Kč<br /> A jak jsem na ně přišel? <br /> platba (s kurzem 24.157): ......................... 287 613 Kč<br /> poplatek za zahraniční platbu: ....................... 1500 Kč<br /> poplatek za podání příkazu v bance: ................... 200 Kč<br /> poplatky, které se naskládaly během výběru peněz: ..... 200 Kč<br /> režie (zaokrouhlení na 290k ;-): ...................... 487 Kč<br /> --------------------------------------------------------------<br /> celkem moje výdaje: ............................... 290 000 Kč <br /> platba v EUR: ...................................... 11 906 €<br /> <br /> kurz (290 000 / 11 906): ............................... 24,36 Kč<br /> <br /> Výsledkem této tabulky je kurz, který jsem použil pro výpočet cen jednotlivých výrobků. Ty jsem lehce zaokrouhlil a výsledek je nahoře. Kolik každému z vás budu vracet si už dokážete zpočítat sami ;-)<br /> <br /> Co je těmi &quot;režiemi&quot;? Nějaké to dojíždění posledních 14 dnů do civilizace (byl jsem mimo dosah jakékoliv vymoženosti 20.stol.), abych se dostal na internet a mohl dokončit objednávku, pak je tam také cesta do Brna, kam v tomto období prázdnin pojedu jenom kvůli předání telefonů. Snad to nikomu nedělá problém. <br /> <br /> *'''4.7. - ''' Peníze jsem odeslal Pulsterovi. Objednávka čítá:<br /> 37 x FreeRunner<br /> 5 x Debug board<br /> 10 x Obal<br /> 17 x Headset<br /> 1 x Sharp Zaurus Stift Plastik<br /> <br /> Pulster psal:<br /> Hi,<br /> <br /> first thanks for all the work you have collecting the money - I will<br /> send you some small present for your help !<br /> <br /> The first batch of Freerunner are sold out, my apologises. We expect new<br /> delivery on 25.07.08 and will do our best to ship your Openmoko unit !<br /> Making a payment now will ensure you to be one of the happy receivers of<br /> the unit with this next delivery !<br /> <br /> Payment:<br /> <br /> 30 units * 299 = 8970 EUR. Shipping is free.<br /> Please transfer it to our bank account. You will find our bank<br /> informations below. If the funds are on the way, send us a short email<br /> notice. It will speed up the procession of your order. Thank you very<br /> much.<br /> <br /> Invoice/shipping address:<br /> for warranty issues I need the name of all buyers please.<br /> also your shipping address.<br /> <br /> Shipment:<br /> We try to ship same day we are got the new Openmoko units in stock.<br /> Again sorry for the delay and thanks for your order with Pulster.<br /> You will get your order with insured and registered DHL airmail parcel.<br /> Please find average trasit times here:<br /> http://www.dhl.de/dhl?tab=1&amp;skin=hi&amp;check=yes&amp;lang=de_EN&amp;xmlFile=3607<br /> <br /> <br /> Please feel free to ask if there are any questions left. We are glad to help.<br /> <br /> Many thanks,<br /> Christoph Pulster<br /> <br /> === Základní informace ===<br /> Jedná se o hromadnou objednávku [[Neo_FreeRunner|Neo FreeRunner]] ([[Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware|hardware]] - GSM, GPS, WiFi, CPU 400MHz, ...; software - [http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/freerunner1.4.swf náhled na připravovanou Qtopii]) do České republiky.<br /> Cena 299€.<br /> <br /> Protože se množí na to dotazy, vypíšu co je součástí dodávky a co ne:<br /> *Obdržíme:[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:GTA02ALL.png]<br /> ** FreeRunner ;-)<br /> ** stylus (pravděpodobně ten s laserem aspol...)<br /> ** adaptér<br /> ** USB kabel<br /> ** 512MB SD card<br /> <br /> *Neobdržíme (možno přiobjednat):<br /> ** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/d__ompouch__OpenMoko_Freerunner_Pouch786.htm obal] (19€) - navíc 500Kč<br /> ** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/index.html?d__omheadset__OpenMoko_Headset785.htm headset] (9€) - navíc 250Kč<br /> <br /> Omlouvám se těm, kteří by ještě chtěli přiobjednat některé z příslušenství a už odeslali peníze. Bude bohužel potřeba v případě zájmu odeslat ještě navíc sumu za příslušenství. ''Pokud by byl malý zájem, mohl bych to zaplatit ze zálohy a případný nedoplatek vybrat v hotovosti (platí bohužel jen pro Brno a Zlín).''<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;'''Platí pro obě větve!'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> Tak jsme na kroku 4!<br /> # Registraci provedete zápisem svého jména a kontaktu do patřičné větve odpovídající místu vašeho osobního převzítí telefonu. Můžete nabídnout distribuci do míst, které ještě nikdo neposkytuje.<br /> # stanovena lehce nadhodnocená částka: 7500Kč za telefon, s debug boardem na 10000Kč na bezpečné pokrytí očekávaných i neočekávaných výdajů spojených s objednávkou<br /> # každý zájemce odešle tuto sumu na účet Martina Šenkeříka, identifikuje se svým jménem a příjmením ve zprávě příjemci<br /> # '''odeslal jsem peníze na účet Pulster.de'''<br /> # po obdržení balíku s telefony se vypočte finální částka za telefon, a případný přeplatek bude vrácen každému osobně při převzetí telefonu (lokální distributoři samozřejmě obdrží patřičný počet telefonů a peněz, aby mohly být předány dále)<br /> # všem se dítko šťastně dopraví do rukou<br /> <br /> *[[Talk:GroupSales#Diskuze | Diskuse]]<br /> *[[Talk:GroupSales#Dopl.C5.88uj.C3.ADc.C3.AD_informace | Doplňující informace]]<br /> <br /> === Brno ===<br /> <br /> ==== Místo a čas setkání ====<br /> Tak pomalu můžeme zkusit naplánovat místo a termín setkání. Budu po vás při předávání chtít občanku pro ověření, že telefon předávám opravdu tomu, kdo si jej objednal.<br /> ===== Brno =====<br /> Viděl bych to na pátek 1.srpna, pokud do té doby budu mít telefony (reálné to je), případně pak na pátek 8.srpna. V obou případech spíš až na večer. Pokud by s tím mělo hodně lidí problém můžeme to dát i na sobotu případně na neděli v jednom z těch dvou víkendů. Jak vám to vyhovuje? <br /> A co místo setkání? Mě nic nenapadá. Představoval bych si nějakou místnost kde se všichni vlezem a budem tam mít klid na předání. Nenabídne se někdo z brňáků, že by to zajistil? Jak píšu níže, do Brna pojedu až s telefony, do té doby tam nejsem.<br /> <br /> Pište prosím sem.<br /> <br /> Pavel Erben - pátek 1.8. pro mne není příliš reálný, budu pravděpodobně až do noci mimo Brno. Totéž platí pro sobotu 2.8. Neděle 3.8. k večeru je přijatelnější. Pátek 8.8. je možný, s výhradou, že nejpozději do 20.00h (mám noční směnu). Příslušně velkou místností bohužel nedisponuji. Nicméně, v případě potřeby jsem ochoten převzít distribuci pro Brno, neb jsem (kromě 1-3.8.) poměrně snadno k zastižení buďto doma (Kameníčkova 20a) nebo v práci (IBM v Technologickém parku na Králově poli)<br /> <br /> Pavel Krátký &gt;&gt;&gt; V Brně jsem v podstatě nonstop, takže jak pátek, tak zbylé dny mi vyhovují. Případně taky není problém za pár lidí převzít telefon a pak si jej vyzvednout u mě na kolejích (Purkyňova B05/426), pokud by někdo potřeboval, určitě se dá domluvit. Co se týče místa, napadá mě jedině vestibul kolejí nebo nějaká hospoda/restaurace.<br /> <br /> ===== Zlín =====<br /> Dohodneme se individuálně.<br /> <br /> ==== Distribuční schéma ====<br /> <br /> '''[n]''' FreeRunner<br /> '''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)<br /> '''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč<br /> '''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč<br /> ''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více<br /> voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;'''&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot; color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;Status : 23&lt;/font&gt;'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> '' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''<br /> <br /> *'''Martin Šenkeřík''' - [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]<br /> **'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Brno&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Radek Bartoň''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Blackhex|Contact]]<br /> ****'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Frýdek-Místek&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> *****-<br /> ***'''€ Pavel Erben [B]''' - [[User:Erby|Kontakt]]<br /> ***'''€ Radek Machulka''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Werty|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Aleš Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Setr|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Jozef Mlich [2, 1D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/joejoe|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Martin Faltičko''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MafRaf|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Karel Volný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/kavol|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Martin Nagy [1, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/mnagy|Contact]]<br /> ****'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Bratislava&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> *****'''€ František Horínek''' - [[Special:Emailuser/PipBoy2000|Contact]]<br /> *****'''€ Martin Vyšný''' [1, 1H, 1O] - [mailto:vysny@baka.sk Contact]<br /> *****'''€ Tomáš Sirný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Junckritter|Contact]]<br /> *****'''€ Ján Janech [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Janik|Contact]]<br /> *****'''€ Ivan Šeďo [1, 1D, 3H, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/ikoframe|Contact]]<br /> ******'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;SK/Žilina&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ******'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;SK/Piešťany&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Tom Varga [H, O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Varg|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Petr Ondo [3, 3O, 2H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Votik|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Pavel Krátký [1, 1H, B]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MrBobby|Contact]]<br /> **'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Zlín&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Martin Holec [H, O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Martix|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Pavel Kovář''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Fox|Contact]]<br /> ****'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Ostrava&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> *****'''€ Marian Krucina [D,H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/oak|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Praha ===<br /> <br /> ==== Distribuční schéma ====<br /> '''Vzhledem ke jednodušší distribuci půjde balíček do Brna a odtud jej převeze Tomáš Varga.'''<br /> <br /> '''[n]''' FreeRunner<br /> '''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)<br /> '''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč<br /> '''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč<br /> ''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více<br /> voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;'''&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Status : 16&lt;/font&gt;'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> '' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''<br /> <br /> *'''€ Jan Mareš [2,2H]''' - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:iVir Contact]<br /> **'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Praha&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Martin Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/masca|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Michal Pěnka [H]''' - [http://michal.penka.name/kontakt Contact]<br /> ***'''€ Jan Černý [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/xcerj01|Contact]]<br /> ****'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Kolín&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Miloslav Machotka [O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Machy|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ David Kozub [D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Zub|Contact]] (Kdyby z Prahy seslo, volim Zlin jako fallback.)<br /> ***'''€ Milan Vontorčík [HO]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Mvontorcik|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Vojtěch Vozáb''' - [mailto:vojtav@centrum.cz Contact]<br /> ***'''€ Zdeněk Trávníček [D]''' - [[User:V154c1|Contact]] (Klidne si zajedu i jinam po republice)<br /> ***'''€ Milan Šedý [2]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Wortyr|Contact]]<br /> ****'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Nové Město na Moravě&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> *****'''Jaromír Šír [[http://www.pulster.de/index.htm?d__z5stift1__Sharp_Zaurus_Stift_Plastik782.htm S]]''' - [mailto:sheeryjay@gmail.com Contact] (openmoko ne, pouze stylus)<br /> **'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Písek&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Luboš Podrázský [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/zsman|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Petr Marvan''' - [mailto:petr.marvan1@seznam.cz Contact]<br /> <br /> == Slovak Republic ==<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Czech_Republic Spojeno s Czech Republic]<br /> <br /> == Slovenia ==<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> * bajsi - [[mailto:Niko.Jezernik@Uni-MB.si Contact]]<br /> <br /> == Croatia ==<br /> Status : 12/10<br /> * w00t - [[Special:Emailuser/W00t|Contact]]<br /> * matija - [[Special:Emailuser/Matija.z|Contact]]<br /> * valajbeg - [[Special:Emailuser/valajbeg|Contact]]<br /> * kost - [[Special:Emailuser/kost|Contact]]<br /> * mnalis - [[Special:Emailuser/mnalis|Contact]]<br /> * tcavrag - [[Special:Emailuser/tcavrag|Contact]]<br /> * slavus - [[Special:Emailuser/slavus|Contact]]<br /> * bsevo - [[Special:Emailuser/bsevo|Contact]]<br /> * amd64 - [[Special:Emailuser/SilverSpace|Contact]]<br /> * v-v - [[Special:Emailuser/v-v|Contact]]<br /> * Lovro - [[Special:Emailuser/Lovro|Contact]]<br /> * Zlotvor - [[Special:Emailuser/zlotvor|Contact]]<br /> (maybe we should make one group for bosnia, croatia &amp; serbia together?) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php/Talk:GroupSales#Croatia the talk page]<br /> <br /> == Russia ==<br /> <br /> Due to common customs problems we created google group to discuss how to get that 10 phones pack in Russia. Join us http://groups.google.com/group/openmoko-russia <br /> <br /> === Moscow ===<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Special:Emailuser/sinister|sinister]]<br /> | <br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 2. [[Special:Emailuser/shallburn|shallburn]]<br /> | <br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 3. [[Special:Emailuser/vadson|vadson]]<br /> | vadimhohlov<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 4. [[Special:Emailuser/Tallex|Tallex]]<br /> | tallex<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 5. [[Special:Emailuser/mex3|mex3]]<br /> | 3meandme<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 6. [[Special:Emailuser/Pva|pva]]<br /> | volkov.peter<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 7. [[Special:Emailuser/cbou|cbou]]<br /> |<br /> | 2<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 8. [[Special:Emailuser/Buffet|Buffet]]<br /> | kaledin<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 9. [[Special:Emailuser/homeboy|homeboy]]<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 10. [[Special:Emailuser/Bepcyc|bepcyc]]<br /> | bepcyc<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 11. [[Special:Emailuser/kmeaw|kmeaw]]<br /> | kmeaw<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> <br /> | 12. [[Special:Emailuser/Casufi|Casufi]]<br /> | VladimirKotulskiy<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 13. [[Special:Emailuser/Bam|bam]]<br /> | butirsky<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 14. [[Special:Emailuser/mihhey|mihhey]]<br /> | mihhey<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 15. [[Special:Emailuser/ke|ke]]<br /> | ke<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 16. [[Special:Emailuser/passshok|passshok]]<br /> | passshok<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 17. [[Special:Emailuser/Dmitry Shurupov|Dmitry Shurupov]]<br /> | Dmitry Shurupov<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 18. [[Special:Emailuser/alsroot|alsroot]]<br /> | alsroot<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 19. [[Special:Emailuser/vinokurov.alexey|vinokurov.alexey]]<br /> | vinokurov.alexey<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 20. [[Special:Emailuser/mithron|mithron]]<br /> | mithron<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 21. [[Special:Emailuser/Anarchist|Anarchist]]<br /> |<br /> | 2<br /> |<br /> | 2<br /> |-<br /> | 22. [[Special:Emailuser/Mixer|Mixer.slc]]<br /> |Mixer.slc<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 23. [[Special:Emailuser/sergey.sign|sergey.sign]]<br /> |sergey.sign<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 24. [[Special:Emailuser/Pyromaniac|Pyromaniac]]<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 25. [[Special:Emailuser/yoush|yoush]]<br /> | Nikita Youshchenko<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 26. [[Special:Emailuser/Von-Hamster|Von-Hamster]]<br /> | Von-Hamster<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 27. [[Special:Emailuser/Onibi|Onibi]]<br /> | brem.sk<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 28. [[Special:Emailuser/Shulyaka|Shulyaka]]<br /> | Denis Shulyaka<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 29. [[Special:Emailuser/icukeng|icukeng]]<br /> | icukeng<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 30. [[Special:Emailuser/REDkiy|REDkiy]]<br /> | REDkiy<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 31. [[Special:Emailuser/svschwartz|svschwartz]]<br /> | Schwartz Sergey<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 32. [[Special:Emailuser/NoMad|NoMad]]<br /> | Antioh<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 33. [[Special:Emailuser/ekot|ekot]]<br /> | ekot<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 34. [[Special:Emailuser/Shalygin.V|Shalygin.V]]<br /> | Shalygin.V<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 35. [[Special:Emailuser/GreyCardinal|GreyCardinal]]<br /> | GreyCardinal<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 36. [[Special:Emailuser/ite|ite]]<br /> | ite<br /> | 0(1? я в раздумьях)<br /> | 0<br /> | 0(1? я в раздумьях)<br /> |-<br /> | 37. [[Special:Emailuser/vvtimofeyev|vvtimofeyev]]<br /> | vvtimofeyev<br /> | 1<br /> | 0<br /> | 0<br /> |-<br /> <br /> <br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 38<br /> | 6<br /> | 16<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Saint-Petersburg ===<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Special:Emailuser/Alexxy|Alexxy]]<br /> | alexxyum<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 2. [[Special:Emailuser/Kainspb|Nikolay Kasatkin]]<br /> | nikolay.kasatkin<br /> | 2<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 3. [[Special:Emailuser/cracatau|cracatau]]<br /> | denis.zalewsky<br /> | 1 (3?)<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 4. [[Special:Emailuser/alexei379|alexei379]]<br /> | alexei379<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 5. [[Special:Emailuser/krigstask|krigstask]]<br /> | sterkrig<br /> | 2<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 6. [[Special:Emailuser/lupin-de-mid|Lupin Demid]]<br /> | lupin-de-mid<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 7. [[Special:Emailuser/Setar|Setar]]<br /> | Setar<br /> |1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 8. [[Special:Emailuser/VisJiser|VisJiser]]<br /> | VisJiser<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 9. [[Special:Emailuser/explosion|exiless]]<br /> | explosion<br /> | 0(1? я в раздумьях)<br /> | 0(1? я в раздумьях)<br /> | 0(1? я в раздумьях)<br /> |-<br /> | 10. [[Special:Emailuser/danil|Danil Kutkevich]]<br /> | Danil Kutkevich<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 11. [[Special:Emailuser/Yaleks|Aleksandr Yakimov]]<br /> | Yaleks<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 12. [[Special:Emailuser/imatveev13|imatveev13]]<br /> | imatveev13<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 13. [[Special:Emailuser/SKiller|SKiller]]<br /> | skeler<br /> | <br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 14. [[Special:Emailuser/Curu3MyHg|Curu3MyHg]]<br /> | <br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 15. [[Special:Emailuser/Stampit|Stampit]]<br /> | <br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 16. [[Special:Emailuser/Rezak|Rezak]]<br /> | Rezak<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 17. [[Special:Emailuser/rgo|rgo]]<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 18. [[Special:Emailuser/alex_pux|alex_pux]]<br /> | Alex_pux<br /> | 1<br /> | <br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 19. [[Special:Emailuser/Dan.samara|dan]]<br /> | Даниэль<br /> | 0(1? думаю)<br /> | <br /> |<br /> |- <br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 18(20?)<br /> | 4(5?)<br /> | 7(8?)<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Kemorovo ===<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[x-Range]]<br /> | x-Range<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> <br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Magnitogorsk ===<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Special:Emailuser/psychos|Alexandr Smolentsev ]]<br /> | [http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=c2iySBgAAACyTh6h5wmnzzxPhWeN_8BEtiDKbEn1fjJfYkQTWXi1Vg psychos]<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 0<br /> | 1<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Trechgorny ===<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Special:Emailuser/kayo|Kayo]]<br /> | [http://groups.google.ru/groups/profile?enc_user=_hFF4RQAAAAd-3MHKABCcRBWFswNHamnOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A Kayo]<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Niznhny Novgorod === <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Special:Emailuser/Ntropy|Ntropy]]<br /> | [http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=PSrAbRYAAAC1cJd46Y4K1QK1ilA02Mhqo4cocwWvDVg2RHsu8f1bCg Natry Clorum]<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 2. [[Special:Emailuser/eagafonov|eagafonov]]<br /> | [http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=DZ6WuxYAAAC4NC2Ez7VnaOK5YizqOI9jo4cocwWvDVg2RHsu8f1bCg eagafonov]<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 2<br /> | 2<br /> | 2<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Rostov-on-Don ===<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[slayer]]<br /> | slayer<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> <br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 0<br /> | 1<br /> |}<br /> === Krasnodar ===<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. 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[[Grif Ruten]]<br /> | Grif Ruten<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> <br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 0<br /> | 1<br /> |}<br /> <br /> == Belarus ==<br /> === Minsk ===<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Const - [[Special:Emailuser/Const|Contact]]<br /> [[Category:Community]]<br /> [[Category:Purchase]]<br /> <br /> == Taiwan ==<br /> === Taipei ===<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * Cruz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cruz Contact]<br /> * mkl23 @ShinChu [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mkl23 Contact]<br /> * htchien [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/htchien Contact]<br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - phone + board) Siongui [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Siongui Contact]<br /> <br /> == Bahrain ==<br /> Status : 3/10<br /> <br /> * Salman [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/smhar Contact]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Group_sales 2008-07-14T05:01:17Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* San Francisco Bay Area */</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;div style='float:right'&gt;__TOC__&lt;/div&gt;<br /> == England ==<br /> === [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Oxford Oxford] ===<br /> <br /> {[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Tim Coggins] 27/04}<br /> It seems apparent from the London group that there will not be 10 people in Oxford who initially want a Freerunner. Therefore I suggest one person gets an 10 pack shipped to them (to save on price, shipping and to get the goodies!) and then mails them individually across the UK. I am willing to make the order and mail the phones if we can find a way to ensure all parties interests are secure (ie. no one is going to get ripped off or left with Neo's they don't need). Has anyone got any ideas of how this could work?<br /> <br /> :It may make sense, depending on numbers, to combine fractional 10s from several places (e.g. Hants, Oxford, West Mids). I would suggest waiting until orders are going to go in, and then shifting people around to their nearest regional organiser to make up a 10.<br /> :Regarding security and trust of the transactions -- it's down to public reputations, I think. I'm organising the Hampshire one, and I've been active in the local Linux Users Group for years, so I know most of the people on our list, and they know that I'm pretty unlikely to run off to Patagonia with their money. I'd guess it's up to each organiser to come to an agreement with each purchaser that both are happy with. [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] 14:08, 28 April 2008 (CEST)<br /> <br /> It's barking to think that - outside of London - there are likely to be as many as 10 people who want Freerunners and who are all within 30 or 45 minutes drive of each other. It's quite obvious, IMO, that postage will be required. See the &quot;security of payments&quot; subsection I've just added below. [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 18:07, 28 April 2008 (CEST)<br /> <br /> :Well, we've got 10 people for Hampshire already... [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] 18:37, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br /> ::Well, an active LUG is going to make all the difference. [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 21:41, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br /> <br /> ==== UK Group Sales and shipping - security of payments ====<br /> <br /> I'm prepared to pay up front for my Freerunner - at least 50% of the price, anyway - to someone with a decent reputation. Basically, if you've been posting on usenet or Linux-centric mailing-lists or web-forums for years then that's good enough for me. For instance uk.adverts.computers has always worked on the assumption of trusting the seller and paying up front - I've never been ripped off, and scammers are always identified quite quickly; obviously this identification was at the cost of at least one buyer, so in this case of an order of ten Freerunners we need some form of reputation in order to avoid that. Does the group buyer have lots of eBay feedback?<br /> <br /> I believe that a 50% up-front payment largely solves the trust problem. What's the consensus?<br /> <br /> In principle I'd be prepared to make the group order &amp; post onwards (or allow collection - I'm about 5 minutes from M1 Junction 14, halfway between London &amp; Birmingham), with the expectation of a 50% up-front payment. However cash is very tight at the moment, and I don't know that I'll be able to front the other 50%. I do have a decent online reputation, and I've been posting in Gentoo-user and on other mailing-lists for years. I can probably find at least one or two people who know me from these postings and who have visited my house or my father's socially or to pick up a secondhand LaserJet, but probably someone who has been active in a local LUG might be considered to have a better reputation. [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 18:07, 28 April 2008 (CEST)<br /> <br /> {[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Tim Coggins] 29/04} With the 50% up front model I would be concerned that once I have sent the phones out that someone would be so happy with their Neo that they might forget to give me the other 50%. What would I do if someone claimed their box was empty? Thinking about all these edge cases makes me think I might be better with a reseller and my Amex :(<br /> <br /> :I wouldn't want to cover 50% of the price up front for even a single 10-pack. However, I've been a good member of HantsLUG for 9 or so years, I've run it for two, and I'm currently one of the team running lug.org.uk, so I've probably got a reasonable online reputation. [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] 18:37, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br /> <br /> :Sorry - I was thinking 50% when the order's placed with OpenMoko, the other 50% when the Freerunners arrive in the UK (cash on collection or cleared funds before shipping onwards). The person making the order should be the &quot;most trustworthy&quot; - it's easier for everyone else to &quot;audit&quot; him than for him to have to worry about any one of the other 9 buyers stiffing him. But having said all that, I wouldn't have any worries about paying 100% up-front to someone like [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] - [mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk let me know] if someone drops out of your group, mate (assuming you're happy to Special Delivery onwards to me). [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 21:50, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br /> <br /> == [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#The_Netherlands The Netherlands] ==<br /> <br /> Discuss possible ways how to deal with the distribution in The Netherlands.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 19/04} I received an idea from [[User:Jan de Haan]]. We could try to find a distributor/importer, and approach that person with the question of doing the importing for us. Sadly I don't know anyone in that business, so I have no idea how to go about contacting someone like that.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Tjikkun|Sander Hoentjen]] 19/04} I might be able to help out here, next Tuesday I will talk with my ex-employer and ask if he has any ideas. (Their business is helping US companies establish market in Europe)<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 19/04}Please do. And keep us informed. Would be great if we can get this off the ground.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 19/04}Agree. For the record: the reason we are looking for a professional business to organize this for us is the inability of any person to front the money for 10 Freerunners, an amount of money ($6000,-) that almost everybody gives the hickups. So we're looking for a business that can buy us the 10 phones with the discount with the guaranteed sale of them. I've done business with sallandautomatisering (Am _not_ affiliated with them in any way) and they showed definite interest. So if Sander's way does not work, I suggest we contact them.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 20/04} Jan, the Freerunner is cheaper than that. In group sale we're probably looking at a figure of 'just' $3690 (ex shipping, and probably other costs.) And otherwise it's $399 per sold phone (again excluding shipping costs and probably also import fees)<br /> BTW it would be good if the people interested in getting a Neo in this group sale also add contact information, so that people can be notified, if you haven't done so already. Out of 11, we're only able to contact 8, at the moment.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 20/04} The $6000 was 10x the price for the first hardware version for sale with the debug option. Btw, I'm definitely interested in the debug version, although that is sold as a separte packge. Source http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015080.html (Thanks, Marcel. ;-) )<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 20/04} I have notified 9 people on the Dutch list about this page. The other two I have no way of contacting at the moment. Let's hope they read the community mailing list. :)<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 20/04} Yorick at this point, I'm not sure. I'm not an importer myself, just someone who is eager to get his grubby hands on a Neo. :) BTW, you could start a similar discussion on it for Belgians right here as well. Just add it to the page here. Just make a separate section on this page. :)<br /> <br /> {[[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] 20/04} I was thinking that, in the case finding someone willing to do the importing in the Netherlands would fail, we maybe could join such an initiative abroad.<br /> @Jan de Haan: I think asking sallandautomatisering will do no harm.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]] 21/04} I can help oragnise the importing. This is something I do in my business but<br /> have very little time available. So we need to be superefficient with information and of course financial arrangements. Feel free to mail me eric _at_ fruitcom.com.<br /> <br /> <br /> {[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 21/04}<br /> <br /> <br /> Gepost via: http://salland.eu/content/mysalland/mail_contact.php<br /> onder subject: E-mailcontact - Product Management artikel toevoegen<br /> <br /> Hier kunt u artikelen opgeven, die nog niet in het assortiment van <br /> Salland Automatisering voorkomen, maar die u wel door ons geleverd <br /> zou willen zien worden.<br /> Wees svp zo compleet mogelijk met het verstrekken van informatie <br /> over het te leveren artikel.<br /> <br /> Uw naam J. de Haan<br /> Uw e-mailadres [[Special:Emailuser/User:Jan de Haan|Contact]]<br /> Artikelinformatie<br /> Merk openmoko<br /> Naam freerunner<br /> Website openmoko.com<br /> <br /> L.S.,<br /> <br /> wij (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands) proberen <br /> als groep minstens 10 openmoko/freerunner toestellen te verkrijgen a E369,- voor <br /> de groepskorting. Bent u geintereseerd om dit voor ons te realiseren?<br /> <br /> Hoogachtend,<br /> <br /> J. de Haan.<br /> <br /> PS Reactie kan via mijn email adres of via de bovengenoemde pagina, deze mail <br /> wordt daar ook gepost.<br /> <br /> E-mailcontact - verzonden<br /> Uw bericht is ontvangen en wordt zo spoedig mogelijk behandeld.<br /> <br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 22/04} Thanks Jan. I hope this will work, I'm just afraid, we're going to need more people to make it viable for those stores to import it. But I see that they use a .eu domain, so if they also sell stuff over the border, I don't think it to be too hard to drum up some support from the other European groups. That way we can make a bigger market to offset those import costs for the retailer.<br /> BTW, I replaced your email address in that email, with something more spam-proof. ;)<br /> <br /> {[[User:Tjikkun|Sander Hoentjen]] 22/04} I had no luck with my ex-employer unfortunately. A comment about the Salland Automatisering letter though: You are talking about a E369,-, is that the price in Euro you are thinking about? ATM 369.00 USD = 231.037 EUR, shipping and taxes will be applied, anybody knows what the price will be for us taken that into account? How much money can a company make out of it, in order for us to still buy? I don't think a company will do it for free, but maybe they will do it for just the publicity, that can be good for them of course.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 22/04} If I had to ballpark it, I'd say aim at around 350, anything below it would be great. I'm not sure what the shipping costs/import costs would come at. I think, looking at other consumer electronic prices in the US and Europe, it's a safe bet (lots of appliances have about the same number behind the currency symbol, whether it is $ or euro)<br /> And the $369 and $399 are still estimates, at least if I read Steve's mail correctly.<br /> <br /> {[[User:AVee|Arjan Veenstra]] 20/04} Personally I wouldn't mind doing this through a private person, as long as things are properly documented (e.g. there is proof when things go wrong). That will mean having to pay in advance, but I doubt anyone of us would bother to run off with $4000. A 5 lines 'contract' is probably enough to make sure you get your money back when the Freerunner don't show up. But then, i'll just go along with the rest of you.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Tjikkun|Sander Hoentjen]] 23/04} Through a private person is also fine by me, the only problem I see is getting a proper invoice. This might come in handy when there is a problem with the phone, for which you have insurance, like I do.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 23/04} Indeed, I'd like to get an invoice as well. If Openmoko would add a separate invoice for each of the ten phones in the box, so that everyone can use that for their warranty/administration. I don't see many problems with going through a private person. We could even make it a meet at a central location, ;) to hand out the phones, to make sure that everyone gets his/her phone.<br /> <br /> <br /> {[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]] 23/04} I like the idea to have Openmoko invoice each of the group separately, if that does not<br /> kill their bulk buy offer. I am happy to go along with the proposal and send advances to someone in the group to consolidate the purchase. I work in importing so any help you need, please ask.<br /> <br /> {[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]] 24/04} Going through one person is fine with me. I'll happily pre-pay and get my phone handed out <br /> on Utrecht CS :-)<br /> <br /> {[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 23/04} Update: I'm still talking with sallandautomatisering, but cannot update untill a conclusion has been reached. Sorry. But hey, at least they are talking ;-) You'll have to trust me on that. If people don't, I can talk to one other person on this list in confidence, but you got to have a little patience for the moment. As another opportunity: can somebody take a look at [http://www.trisoft.de/] and give an opinion? Two possibilities arise from this: we take our business there as a group or ask a Dutch reseller to import from there.<br /> <br /> {[[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] 23/04} Thank you for your work on Sallandautomatisering. I followed your pointer to Trisoft and was reminded of another shop: [http://www.pulster.de/index.htm?d__freerunner___b_OpenMoko_Freerunner_299_eur__b_972.htm] I don't know if they continue with importing Openmoko. I will keep an eye on them.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 23/04} And there is [http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner Handheld-linux.com], who seem eager to offer the Neo Freerunner as well. Just no Dutch stores (yet) :) Jan, I trust you. Keep up the good work.<br /> <br /> {[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 25/04} Maybe the people over at [http://www.mingos.nl/ Mingos] are willing to help out. They call themselves an IT Specialist in free software.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]] 25/04} I Why do we not import the consignment ourselves? What are the disadvantages. I could organise and/or provide the information to someone else in the group. What is the reason that we want to put our business through a dealer?<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 25/04} I think the biggest hurdle would be the invoice, warranty-wise. But I don't mind if one of us imports it, and then distributes it. Through a meet-up of some sorts would be great. A great way to get a community feel. :)<br /> You say you have experience with importing goods, Eric. Do you know what sorts of extra costs we have to keep in mind? Sales tax? Import costs? VAT? &lt;br /&gt;<br /> Another could-be problem is with the amount of phones currently on the 'group sales list'. Currently we are at 16. Group sales are in increments of 10. So the importer could be stuck with 4 unsold phones (which of course could get sold on ebay, but it's an upfront investment in that case, with some insecurity for the importer), or 6 could get stuck with a higher expense (because they don't benefit from the group sale discount).<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 25/04} Going through a reseller you should take in mind if that party is willing to do it without taking a (large) profit. One person (doesn't have to be a business) can contact OM and ask them if the order is bigger then 10 (but not an increment of 10) the discount would still be valid per Freerunner. Or maybe one of the german resellers would give the same discount if an order above 10 pieces at once was given and send to one central person. You'd pay german VAT but that doesn't matter you would have to pay dutch VAT if you import it directly from OM. Just my 2 cents. A reseller in Holland has to ask for VAT either way as well so...<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 25/04} A similar question was asked on the mailing list, and [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015188.html Steve from openmoko] came back and told us, that &quot;{t}here will be two products. Buy 1 OR buy 10.{...} So, if you wanted 11 you would buy a 10 +1.&quot; <br /> It could be that that's changed. But I kinda doubt that. Well, ok, yes, VAT is needed. But I was kinda looking for a list of extra costs to keep in mind, when importing goods on this scale. Does customs take a fee, or something.<br /> <br /> {[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]] 25/04} Customs _sometimes_ lets packages go through without VAT, but not always. If it isn't clearly labeled they guess what's in there and tax you on it. Also, indeed, Steve said that 10+6 is out. By the way, you'll need to 'sell' 9 of the 10 phones to break even, be careful ordering 20 and selling 16! Buying 16 (10+6) and sharing the costs would bring it to $369 instead of $349 per phone.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 25/04} Not to nitpick, but the price is already $369 per phone in the 10 pack. But you do have a point. Though I think you can easily sell those off via ebay or marktplaats or any of the other online auction sites. Too bad it isn't out yet. Would have been great to have a box them and stand in Amsterdam during Queensday, selling the phones. ;)<br /> <br /> {[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 26/04} I see we are at 17 already. Let's just try to get to 20 for the Netherlands. If we have that amount i am willing to import the phones for the group order, but i think we just should pay normal tax etc. and not try to avoid that by taking the chance the customs won't notice our package.<br /> <br /> {[[User:PingPong|Peter Hageman]] 26/04 10:00} Before the Freerunner hits the streets we will have 30 or more people joining. The price of the Freerunner won't drop with 20 or 30, but the shipping costs might.<br /> <br /> {[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]] 27/04} (I cut out a lot of somehow duplicated comments. If anyone misses anthing, I appologise for the inconvenience) I agree with Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof about not willing to avoid taxes. Neither do I, but it happend, sometimes. If you are willing to import phones for us, that would be wonderful. Thanks!<br /> <br /> {[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 28/04} Guys, I thank all of you for working on this issue. Unfortunately I cannot add anything valuable to this. I'll happily join Christ while picking up the phone at Utrecht CS. :-)<br /> <br /> {[[User:AVee|Arjan Veenstra]] 28/04} Shipping costs are, reading from comments on the community list, around $16 per piece for the 10pack. We might save some more ordering 20 or 30 at once, but we could consider placing seperate orders and have these delivered at more convinient places. (We migth, depending on the numbers, even mix and match with the guys in [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Belgium Belgium]. Perhaps for some Antwerp is closer then Utrecht...)<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 28/04} Just commenting to add [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html this link] to Steve's message to the mailing list, with an estimation of the UPS shipping costs. (For us, it is a bit more expensive, but the UPS website isn't exactly cooperating with me. If someone else could look it up. The number I got for expedited delivery was 170.94 USD, for the 10-pack, and 184.20 for UPS Worldwide Express, but I'm not entirely sure if that number is correct. Somehow the site demanded I enter in the dimensions in (rounded up) inches. So those are estimates.<br /> But my take is that it's probably wise to use the expedited, because the delivery date is in all options about the same, with one difference: Express is delivered before noon, and Expedited before the end of the day.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 29/04} Hi All. I'm sorry, but the dealer I was talking with, is not interested:<br /> <br /> Geachte heer,<br /> <br /> Ik heb gekeken naar de site Trisoft.de<br /> <br /> Ik vrees dat het voor ons niet interessant is om hier zaken mee te doen. Wellicht dat u zelf kunt bestellen bij Trisoft.de<br /> <br /> Wat ik heb gezien is dat er geen KvK of BTW nummers zijn en gewoon als particulier het e.e.a. geregeld kan worden.<br /> <br /> Met vriendelijke groet,<br /> <br /> Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx<br /> Product Management / Technical Support<br /> <br /> Salland Automatisering<br /> <br /> Maybe we should take their advice and order through trisoft. Anybody know anything about them? If we can pick them up ourselves (for me a 3 hours drive) we might be able do it. Main problem will be to front the money.<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 29/04} I think, reading the mail list, that 10 packs need to be ordered from the US so Trisoft is not an option I think. 1 Entity should order the 10 pack(s) and then distribute them to the other people. I could ask around maybe someone I know can be the central entity.<br /> <br /> {[[User:EdbO|Eddy Boer]] 29/04} @Jan de Haan: Maybe you can try Azerty (www.azerty.nl). The people who founded Salland Automatisering have started that new company some years ago.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 29/04} But then point them to Openmoko.com/.org, because that's AFAIK the only way of getting the group discount, give them the link to the mailing list post. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> But I think right now the best way is to have one or two people place the group order, and distribute it from that central location, either through the mail or through a meeting. (The latter has my preference)<br /> <br /> {[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 29/04} Ok, following mail is on it's way to azerty. Sorry Madjo, sent before I saw your comment.<br /> from Jan de Haan &lt;haan.j.de@gmail.com&gt;<br /> to inkoop@azerty.nl,<br /> date Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM<br /> subject Openmoko - Freerunner<br /> mailed-by gmail.com<br /> <br /> hide details 8:52 PM (0 minutes ago)<br /> <br /> L.S.,<br /> <br /> wij (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands) proberen<br /> als groep minstens 10 openmoko/freerunner toestellen te verkrijgen a E369,- voor<br /> de groepskorting. Bent u geintereseerd om dit voor ons te realiseren?<br /> Een importeur schijnt trisoft.de te zijn. Let wel: dit product is<br /> nog niet op de markt,<br /> al zijn de laatste test productie runs klaar.<br /> <br /> Hoogachtend,<br /> <br /> J. de Haan.<br /> <br /> PS Reactie kan via mijn email adres of via de bovengenoemde pagina, deze mail<br /> wordt daar ook gepost.<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 29/04} Hi again, had a talk and we, OpenSource Nieuws Nederland would be willing to be that one entity who places that order in the US. There are a lot of things that would have to be worked out and costs have to be calculated but we would be willing to help and organize this with your help. There should be a page were people could signup once the price is known (first in first out untill a 10 pack is filled) and all would have to be paid in advance before ordering because we can't pay that amount of money in advance. Let me know if this is an idea or that you rather have an hardware reseller handle, is also cool, just let me know. OSNN is a company with a VAT number and if we will invoice individually but will not do waranty, if you want that then you need to order with trisoft or an other company. Warranty on the 10 pack is still a thing that needs to be answered on the list I think.<br /> <br /> {[[User:EdbO|Eddy Boer]] 30/04} I have also found a company who is interesting to help us. They don't sell hardware but woodworking machines, and they use opensource software as much as possible. We have talked about it and they want to buy the phones at Trisoft due to the warranty, but when you don't worry about warranty ...... Al the phones they buy should be already sold to you and the total amount should have a factor of 10 (10-pack). When the phones were arrived you can pick them up with an invoice of the company or they send the phone to you (with an invoice), but then you have to pay shipping costs. All the phones should be paid before they place the order! Belgium is also welcome!<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 04/05} I know I can't speak for all of us here. But me personally, I have a little bit more faith in the offering of Open Source Nieuws Nederland. Sorry Eddy, btw, I doubt that phones sold through Trisoft would fall under the group sale. But I could be mistaken. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> Provided we get answers on the warranty thing from Openmoko, I think that's our best bet.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 05/05} Ok, let's take a quick vote (btw, any reseller who is interested in taking 10 way orders can extend this table):<br /> <br /> === Votes for a reseller ===<br /> {|border=1<br /> !Name<br /> !Trisoft<br /> !Open Source Nieuws Nederland<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]]<br /> |<br /> |1<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]]<br /> |<br /> |1 (Subject to a solution for warranty)<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:PingPong|Peter Hageman]]<br /> |<br /> |1<br /> |-<br /> |[[Special:Emailuser/User:PWerken|Peter van de Werken]]<br /> |<br /> |1 (note: I'll buy 2 Freerunners)<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]]<br /> |<br /> |1<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:T_M|Theo Martens]]<br /> |<br /> |1<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]]<br /> |<br /> |1<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]]<br /> |<br /> |1 (If warranty is OK)<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]]<br /> |<br /> |1<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]]<br /> |<br /> |1<br /> |-<br /> |'''Total'''<br /> |<br /> |10<br /> |}<br /> {[[User:Yorick|Yorick]] 06/05} I contacted Michael Brus, the manager of PDAshop. This is what he said:<br /> Beste Yorick,<br /> <br /> Bedankt voor je mail en informatie; ik kende de toestellen niet, maar zou ze<br /> best eens van dichtbij willen bekijken. Het 'developer' model lijkt me dan<br /> echter weer minder interessant voor ons; het 'consumer' model zou eind 2008<br /> op de markt moeten komen?<br /> <br /> Met vriendelijke groet,<br /> With kind regards,<br /> <br /> Michael Brus<br /> Manager PDAshop<br /> <br /> <br /> Coolblue<br /> Molenbaan 11 . 2908 LL Capelle a/d IJssel . www.coolblue.nl<br /> <br /> Coolblue is...<br /> MP3shop.nl . PDAshop.nl . Digicamshop.nl . GPSshop.nl .<br /> Smartphoneshop.nl . Consoleshop.nl . Telefoonshop.nl . meer...<br /> <br /> Should I forward this to Michael Shiloh?<br /> <br /> {[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 07/05} I'll vote to wait until there are actually phones shipping, until that time, the more people we gather here, and maybe other dealers, the better the deal we get(I hope).<br /> <br /> {[[User:T_M|Theo Martens]] 08/05} <br /> Well, I want to have the phone as soon as possible. The best deal ever isn't my main concern.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 13/05}<br /> I've been browsing the mailing list, and found [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/016971.html this post] from Openmoko's Steve. Group sales have 28 days of DOA (Dead On Arrival) coverage, and single sales have 14 days of DOA coverage. Which I think is reasonable. BTW, I don't think there will be a better deal than the $369 per phone for the 10-pack. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> We currently have enough people to fill 2 10-packs, which is awesome! &lt;br /&gt;<br /> What we do need to figure out are the import costs, and the shipping costs. (it's shipped via UPS, if I recall correctly from the mailing list.)<br /> <br /> {[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 22/05}<br /> <br /> I wouldn't be too sure that this is financially going to be the best deal. This message in the community mailing list (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017668.html) shows interesting info regarding Pulster.<br /> ----<br /> ''Christph Pulster wrote:<br /> ''&gt; about 10 pack orders - we try to be cheaper than the 10-order-<br /> ''&gt; pack-price ! so no need to collect ten local buyers.<br /> <br /> ''This sounds so good...! I'm waiting for official news (and maybe infos<br /> about the gifts too)...''<br /> ----<br /> '''I checked their webpage and they advertise with OpenMoko Freerunner 299 eur'''<br /> <br /> {[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 22/05} I checked their website too and it says 'Sobald der Freerunner wirklich lieferbar ist, ist er an dieser Stelle mit konkretem Preis zu finden und real bestellbar.' Which could mean that the price will be something other than 299 euro.<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 22/05} I like the pulster deal a lot, even if they are the same price as buying the 10 pack in the US the warranty part is a lot better seeing Germany is next door to us. Only thing is that you would mis out on the pouch and headset, dunno if that's such a great loss. And they say they will be going under the price of the US 10 pack order if you order the 10 from them. So maybe a vote on yes or no to the pouch/headset deal? Maybe we should check if with Pulster a group order of 10+ will always give the discount. Like 22 will get the same discount and that we are not forced in getting groups of ten people.<br /> <br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 22/05} I wrote an e-mail to pulster with the questions so I will post the answer here when I get one.<br /> <br /> {[[User:T_M|Theo Martens]] 24/05} <br /> The pouch and headset are not that important IMO. I guess most join the group sale for convenience and reduce cost. But maybe I'm wrong.<br /> <br /> <br /> {[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 26/05}<br /> <br /> '''From the community mailing list again:<br /> <br /> '''Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote [to Pulster - Ed.]:<br /> ''&gt;&gt; 1. Do you know when you'll be approximately able to define a price?<br /> ''&gt;&gt; 2. The Freerunner will be shipped with extra goodies (generally<br /> ''&gt;&gt; given only to people buying a 10-pack (ie: pouch and headset)?<br /> ''&gt; <br /> <br /> '''From Pulster [Ed.]<br /> <br /> ''&gt; Price fix ASAP I have the units in own hands/stocks.<br /> ''&gt; 299-319 eur is really realistic.<br /> ''&gt; <br /> ''&gt; All goodies included at PULSTER !<br /> ''&gt; <br /> ''&gt; Also can be bought a lot accessories extra very soon (debug board, pens, <br /> ''&gt; cases etc)<br /> ''&gt; <br /> ''&gt; you see, I will make all your wishes true :)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 26/05} Yeah, read that message in the weekend, no reply to my mail at this moment but seeing this message straight from pulster I would say that we should buy directly from pulster as a group. Warranty wise it's better as well.<br /> <br /> 399 U.S. dollars is about 253 Euros and including VAT that would become 301.07 Euro so pulster with their price being 299 Euro (see below) has a good price and for 10 and more there is a discount just like in the US. I would propose to take the dutch group sale to Pulster.<br /> <br /> The following mail from Chis Pulster was on the list also.<br /> <br /> <br /> ----<br /> I am Chris from pulster.eu - my hello to this great community.<br /> <br /> May I add some points from my side:<br /> <br /> - Freerunner - ready to order ASAP it is available. We do not<br /> take pre-orders of items we dont have in hands. For a one-time info- <br /> mail once the Freerunner is ready to order, please just email me <br /> mailto: christoph@pulster.de<br /> - we aim a Freerunner price tag of 299 EUR incl. VAT<br /> - shipping worldwide with DHL, Europa 15 EUR, World 30 EUR postage<br /> - soon we offer accessories for Freerunner like spare batterie, charger, <br /> Headset, pouch and also the debug-board<br /> - group-sales make local communities, that is wonderful. I am happy to <br /> sell Freerunner separately or in packages.<br /> <br /> Many thanks,<br /> Chris<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> {[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 26/05}<br /> Indeed let's take the dutch group sale to Pulster. We are with 22 so we should be able to make a good deal regarding the goodies. And in that way no-one has to take any financial risk.<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 28/05} My guess is, that for a group buy at pulster there is still one entity needed for buying the devices. The thing is that with pulster, as with the US deal, the waranty should be per person and not named for the buying entity.<br /> <br /> :I don't think that we need to do the 'group buy' at Pulster. You can just buy the device at 299 a piece there. I would like to have the pouch though, if they can assure me that the pouch and other goodies would be included in the deal (because they of course could make a number of 'groupbuys' for the entire customer base), then count me in.--[[User:Madjo|MadJo]]<br /> <br /> :: Your absolutly right on this one, been thinking about it and the possible discount we would be getting would wasted on shipping within the Netherlands again. Like you said, if there are goodies involved it's a different deal of course :) . --[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]]<br /> <br /> :::So let's start negotiating with Pulster regarding the goodies. We can bring in 22 customers, so he has something to win. It might be important to know whether Pulster takes credit card payments. I cannot find that option on their webpage and an electronic banktransfer will add another 15 (?) euro.[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]]<br /> <br /> :::: Bank payments to germany are free of charge, at least for my bank (Rabobank).{[[User:Tjikkun|Sander Hoentjen]]}<br /> <br /> :::: I'm afraid they don't accept credit cards (from their [http://www.pulster.de/engl/imprint.htm About Us page]:<br /> <br /> We do not accept any other payment option like PayPal, Reembourse/Cash-on-delivery (COD) payments, <br /> direct CreditCard payments, any kind of cheques, western union, postal money orders, cash. Please dont <br /> ask, we do not accept none of this options thanks to a very few but very expensive scams. <br /> <br /> :::: Nice double negative in there, btw. But still, 299+15 is less than 350 or 400. ;) --[[User:Madjo|MadJo]]<br /> <br /> ::::: If it is going to be a group sale (if pulster provides the goodies) it would be (discounted price * 22 + transfer rate + (21 * shipping within Holland)) [[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]]<br /> <br /> :::::: Are you assuming that we'd get a discounted price when we order in bulk? I have not seen any evidence that Pulster will lower the price even more, when done like that. But indeed, we'd have 22 * whatever-price-the-freerunner-will-get-at-Pulster + shipping costs... but then we are back at the discussion of how to deal with the warranty. Will Pulster give separate invoices for each of the phones in the pack? --[[User:Madjo|MadJo]]<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 02/06} Okay I got an answer from Chris Pulster. I had 2 main questions that he answered and they were 1. Will the pouch and other goodies be included with a group sale as would be if we were to buy in the states. 2. Is a group sale, like in the states, limited to groups of ten or will the discount be for all phones bought in bulk. This is what he had to say:<br /> <br /> about your question: at the moment we dont know about pouch/headsets <br /> included or not. I will tell you a more reliable answer if Freerunners <br /> are in stocks.<br /> my discount system and sales are full flexibel (no ten-pack limitations)<br /> let us talk and we find a nice offer for the dutch OpenMoko community !<br /> <br /> <br /> Beste Gruesse aus Leimen,<br /> Christoph Pulster<br /> <br /> We will have to take a look at what the discount will be and if it is worth it considering we will have extra shipping cost in holland.<br /> <br /> If the shipping costs will be too high, i would be willing to pick the phones up myself, if my expenses are covered. We have to figure out further distribution though. {[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 03/06}<br /> <br /> {[[User:Atilla|Atilla Filiz]] 19/06} Don't we have a chance for direct shipping from Taiwan? The phones are produced there anyway.<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 20/06} We could but the problem would be that we would be buying it for consumer prices where Pulster buys a whole lot, and being a reseller pays a reseller price, or better yet a distributors price. So my bet is that we would be better of getting it from pulster than from Taiwan because that would not be much cheaper then getting it from the States.<br /> <br /> {[[User:Atilla|Atilla Filiz]] 22/06} Any news from Pulster or any other possible importer yet?<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 25/06} I got some news from Christoph just now but am waiting for permission to post it here, nothing earth chattering but just want his permission seeing it is a private e-mail. I'll keep you posted.<br /> <br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 25/06}<br /> <br /> Okay this is the e-mail Christopher from pulster.de wrote to me this afternoon:<br /> <br /> - our price of 299 EUR for Openmoko Freerunner is already rock-bottom, so we can not make further discounts, my apologises. What we can offer is free shipping <br /> worldwide if you order 10 units or more at once.<br /> <br /> - delivery time: same day money cleares we ship with registered and insured DHL airmail parcel. Transit time inside Europe is c.3 days, outside Europe 5 days.<br /> <br /> - customs: inside EU community there is no hassle with customs and no taxes/VAT will be added. Its all included our price of 299 eur. <br /> Outside EU community (Switzerland, Norway, USA, Asia) we will reduce German VAT giving a buying price of 249 EUR excl. VAT. Please note your local VAT will be added.<br /> <br /> - warranty: we give full 2 years warranty period. Please note, this is legal law for European business and compare it with own imports from Asia/USA.<br /> For warranty issues we are happy to include a separate invoice for each person of the GroupSale.<br /> <br /> - accessories included: its identical to the single unit order. Any other accessories (Cases/Headset etc.) can be ordered in our shop www.pulster.eu - we already have stocks.<br /> <br /> My first reaction was that seeing this it would be better to order as an individual because the only benefit of the free shipping would be lost because we would have to re-distribute it in Holland so that would add some shipping costs again. That's what I wrote to Chris and he replied that another benefit of a group order is that a group order has precedence before a shop sale. So My guess is ( and I hope to get that confirmed by Chris ASAP ) that if we as a group order at pulster.de before the shop opens, those phones will be reserved for us. When you order as an individual there is a chance you will miss out on the first batch and would have to wait until Chris gets another batch of phones.<br /> <br /> So my advice would be, if we want to get our hands on a Openmoko FreeRunner as one of the first in Holland we would need to buy as a group. Again, we, Open Source Nieuws Nederland, are willing to be the mediator. The price would be the Euro 299 plus shipping costs within Holland and the money needs to be in our bank account before we pay pulster.de we can not afford to pay in advance. How do we communicate? Should I open an e-mail adres fot this? Do any of you want to do the group thing with pulster, or buy as an individual or take your money to the states?<br /> <br /> SeeYa,<br /> Michel<br /> <br /> {[[User:nicolas|Nico Veenkamp]] 26/06}. I am willing to group my order together with the rest using Open Source Nieuws Nederland as intermediate. Specifically to have the priority advantage of the group order mentioned by Michel to get my hands as soon as possible on the Neo FreeRunner. I would suggest to Michel to put order details on this page and open a specific email adres to receive orders.<br /> <br /> I'm also in on that groupsale. Too bad it doesn't include the goodie bag, but that doesn't matter much. :) I'd suggest setting up an email address. You do need address details from the participants. :) &lt;br /&gt; Or do you prefer to set a date on which the Neos are handed to everyone in person? :) &lt;br /&gt; [ [[User:Madjo|MadJo]] 08:40, 26 June 2008 (UTC) ]<br /> <br /> {[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 26/06}Count me in on the group sale too. My main interest is to get the neo as soon as possible and to have an individual tax receipt. Is that possible when i join in on the group sale?<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 26/06} Okay, The following will happen. I will try and mail everyone on the group sale page (as long as people are using a registered username with e-mail address) and this talk page (when not on the group sale page) with the specifics, I will also mail to the community mail list with that message. Keep in mind, this will all take some time because first we need to give people a chance to &quot;sign up&quot;, then to transfer money and then for us to transfer all that money to pulster. Then (when pulster has the money) the phones will be send to us and then they will be send to the people. So do not expect them to be with you within a few days after making the money transfer to us, if you want that then try your luck by buying it on your own and hope that there will enough in stock at pulster.de before you get there.<br /> <br /> We will be sending the phones with insured postage, this will put an extra Euro 7,95 on top of the Pulster.de price of Euro 299. It could be we have to do some extra wrapping, I'm waiting for an answer on that part by Pulster. We still need 10 or more buyers so if that number is not reached it is everyone for his/her self.<br /> <br /> Maybe we need to put something on the group sale page?<br /> <br /> {[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 26/06} Is it possible to verify at Pulster if they put individual receipts with the phones, or they just send one for the whole group?<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 26/06} To quote from the above mentioned mail from Pulster.de &quot;For warranty issues we are happy to include a separate invoice for each person of the GroupSale&quot; So that's okay.<br /> <br /> {[[User:AVee|Arjan Veenstra]] 27/06} According to messages on the community list Pulster will start shipping on the 4th of July, we probably should have our order in before that, otherwise were better of just ordering on our own. The savings has been reduced to around EUR 8,- on shipping. I'm not sure that alone makes it worth the hassle, and they are taking orders right now...<br /> <br /> ([[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]] 27/06} I'm not sure what to do right now... We're at 29 of 30 now, but I am really tempted to pre-order now... Any advice we can give each other?<br /> <br /> {[[User:AVee|Arjan Veenstra]] 27/06} To be honest, I think anyone who wants it asap should just order it from pulster. The benefits of a group purchase there are just 8,- and it will take time to get it all setup and to get the distribution done. <br /> A group order may just be worthwhile when getting 10packs from the states, the cost will be roughly the same, but it will include the goodies (and loose the warranty), maybe there are 10 people who consider that worth the effort.<br /> Unless someone convinces me to do otherwise I will just place my own order with pulster by the end of today...<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 27/06} Okay, my thoughts exactly, after reading the message in te mailing list today from Christohper and thinking about it and reading your remarks, I have to agree. Organizing all this including transfering the money to our account and then the rest of the process, you are better of ordering dirct from Pulster, and the fact that you can order extra's as well. So as far as I'm concerned the group sale is of and I would advice everyone to order at pulster.de<br /> <br /> So I will NOT be sending out e-mails today to organize all of this. It's everyone for his/her self. :) Start ordering. :) Maybe a message stating this should be put on the group sale page?<br /> <br /> {[[User:Atilla|Atilla Filiz]] 27/06} The resellers have started to ship and some even finished their first stocks. If there is a group already formed, count me in. Otherwise, it seems it's best as &quot;every gentleman for himself&quot;.<br /> <br /> {[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 27/06} I just placed an individual order at Pulster.de, so i won't be joining you one the group sale. I'm trying to get the phone before the 12th of july, so i'm in a bit of a hurry.<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 27/06} I put an order in with Pulster as well this afternoon. The price is right.<br /> <br /> {[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 28/06} As was to be expected we would never have had any chance to be quick enough to get a group sale together for Pulster. If you look at the sales page now for the Freerunner the next order round is for the 25th, I only have an automatic order reply for my personal order, not the human one so I'm not even certain of the 05-07 batch. Time will tell. Hope the others kept on reading this page.<br /> <br /> :: After reading the comments here, I too decided to place an individual order. On one hand it's sad, because it does form communities. :) [[User:Madjo|MadJo]] 14:37, 29 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> :: I agree. I am going to place an individual order too. As I don't think I could get Freerunner before my vacation, so it doesn't make any sense for me trying to get this from the first batch --[[User:VreVo|VreVo]] 09:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Canada ==<br /> ==== GTA (Toronto) ====<br /> { --[[User:Argo|Argo]] 03:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC) }<br /> For group 1 it looks like they have actually gotten the 10 orders in? or am I them adding up wrong?<br /> <br /> == Croatia ==<br /> {--[[User:W00t|W00t]] 14:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)} '''ja ne bih da već sada radimo pan-balkansku grupu, iskreno sam iznenađen odazivom do sada, pa jedino možda ako ne skupimo dovoljno ljudi do kraja ovog tjedna...'''<br /> <br /> moj post sa hr.comp.os.linux upućen mnalisu;<br /> <br /> &gt; BTW, ti si zapravo kontaktirao HULK i rekli su ti da bi to oni isli raditi i<br /> <br /> &gt; gnjaviti se sa svim tim, ili ih cisto spominjes onako u smislu &quot;pa oni su<br /> <br /> &gt; dragi ljudi, sigurno ce besplatno uloziti mjesece svog zivota u to u zamjenu<br /> <br /> &gt; za pivu&quot; ?<br /> <br /> Davio sam ih malo zadnja dva dana na IRCu, i prema logu načelno su za<br /> da se narudžbe hendlaju preko njih. A i mislim da se ipak ne radi o<br /> mjesecima života bačenih za pivu, more like možda 2-3 sata za gajbu<br /> ili dvije :), hell ako je toliko teško napravit ću ja sve, učlanit se<br /> u HULK ako treba<br /> <br /> ali do toga trenutka ovako ja razmišljam:<br /> <br /> 1.) skupimo 10 zainteresiranih<br /> 2.) ja nazovem carinu i agenciju za telekomunikacije<br /> 3.) pitamo openmoko za shipping estimate<br /> 4.) ako su svi i dalje za, skupljanje sredstava i na kraju narudžba<br /> <br /> dakle ništa nije obligatory, idemo step by step, onog trenutka kada se<br /> prijavi 10 ljudi na wikiju ja zovem nadležne službe, pa ćemo vidit di<br /> stojimo sa uvozom i tim''<br /> <br /> nemoj odmah &quot;worst case scenario&quot; :)<br /> <br /> &gt;&gt; mozda da se malo na elitesecurity.org pokrene rasprava?<br /> <br /> --[[User:W00t|W00t]] 10:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC) svakako, ja sam za<br /> <br /> == Macedonia ==<br /> {--[[User:Neutrino|Neutrino]] 9:27 AM, 01 July 2008 } ''' When should We place order at Openmoko store? Macedonia will be recognize as option to select country where goods should be delivered, I beleive? I'm asking this because at German store [http://www.goldelico.com/Home.html] there are isn't case!? '''<br /> If the phone concept is to be open, it should be open for everyone on the planet! It must be possible to buy it from anywhere!? So, I personally beleive that openmoko team could provide this solution to us! We where waiting for such a long time for phone mass market release date, and it would be bad if I can not have it.<br /> Thanks to Openmoko team and continue with excellent work!<br /> In the future We will wait for new better software releases such as ASU images or new GTK+ images or FSO images or...<br /> Best regards<br /> <br /> == Czech Republic ==<br /> Distribuční seznam, základní informace naleznete v [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Czech_Republic GroupSales]<br /> <br /> *[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Diskuze Diskuze]<br /> *[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Dopl.C5.88uj.C3.ADc.C3.AD_informace Doplňující informace]<br /> <br /> === Diskuze ===<br /> ''Martin Holec''&gt; Máme tu 4x ze Zlína, co kdyby někdo jel do Brna pro 4ks a ve Zlíně by se rozdělili?<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík''&gt; jak jsem psal, já do Zlína jezdívám, a od května do září budu ve Zlíně velmi často, takže se Zlínem není vůbec problém.<br /> <br /> Jinak už se objevily nějaké termíny. Jestli jsem to dobře pochopil, tak 9.5. by už mohla začít masová výroba a brzy na to by měl začít prodej...<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt;&gt; Jak by měl vlastně vypadat? Takový ten bíly se mně moc nelíbí. Radši bych měl [http://http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg černý].<br /> <br /> ''Michal Pěnka''&gt; Protože jsem jedenáctý a nevím, jestli bude možné objednat 11 kusů nebo jen po desítkách, domluvím se s Tomem Vargou později (jestli by byl ochotný pro převoz do Prahy), každopádně bych také raději ten černý.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt;&gt; Jak to tak tady pročítám tak to půjde objednat za zvýhodněnou cenu (+pytlík? a headset) opravdu jenom po desítkách. Ale IMHO když této stránce zvedneme popularitu (případně přiberem Slováky) tak jich budem nakonec brát minimálně dvacet ;) Mně osobně připadá datum 9.5. hodně optimistické.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík''&gt; FreeRunner bude pouze v jedné barevné variantě, a to černý. To datum 9.5. mám [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates odsud]<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt;&gt;Nemáte někdo fotku freerunnera ? na wiki jsem zatím našel jenom fotky GTA1-čky<br /> <br /> ''David Kozub''&gt;&gt; Jelikoz se vyskytuju ve Zline i v Praze, muzu zajistit prevoz do Prahy.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík''&gt; No tak například tady to máš dokonce na videu: http://youtube.com/watch?v=k9QLdK6pFCI ;-) Ale jinak i na wiki se povalují fotky FreeRunnera. Například hned ta první na hlavní stránce ;-)<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt;&gt; To video je parádní. Co se týče té fotky z úvodu wiki, myslel jsem, že je to jenom render. Jinak jak jsem tak bloudil po stránkách české pošty - nejlevněj to nejspíš vyjde poslat jako profibalík za myslím že 64korun. Za dobírku se něco ještě připlácí. Balík je pojištěný do 100 000. [http://www.cpost.cz:80/jetspeed/portal/media-type/html/user/anon/page/default.psml/js_pane/sluzbyonline%2Czasilky?docid=370&amp;calc_lb0=10424&amp;calc_cb0=1 více zde]<br /> <br /> ad. '''Praha (Čechy):'''<br /> <br /> ''Tom Varga''&gt;&gt; Pokoušel jsem se vyčíst z mailing listu, jak je to s tou množstevní slevou - co jsem z toho pochopil, tak by neměl být problém objednat množství nedělitené desíti, ale ty kusy navíc jsou pak [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016432.html bez slevy] a [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016202.html bez bonusu]; pořád by se to ale vyplatilo skrze poštovné. Prozatím bych navrhl, aby se zájemci z Prahy (Čech) zapsali / potvrdili smazáním otazníku v [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distribu%C4%8Dn%C3%AD_sch%C3%A9ma distribučním schématu], možná něco podobného pro Slovensko - momentálně to vypadá, že bude snazší sehnat 20 zájemců celkem a taky by se tím mohla situace trochu vyjasnit. Osobně jsem schopen zajistit dovoz z Brna do Prahy, Liberce, Jablonce n.N. a přilehlých končin. Případné návrhy sem ;)<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt;&gt;&gt; Řekl bych že čím větší balík poletí za Ameriky sem tím levněj to vyjde. Pokud není poštovné na gramy. 20-ti zájemců se určitě dočkáme. Když počítám Františka Horínka z Bratislavy tak je nás 18. Co se týče bonusů na headsetu moc nelpím ale ten pytel by se mně vážně hodil. Často v kapse kombinuju mobil a klíče nebo šroubovák...<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek''&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Poštovné samozřejmě není na gramy, ale na libry, neboli každých započatých 0.45 kg se platí, plus se poštovné započítává do cla, mimochodem taková zásilka asi jen tak přes celnici neprojde, takže je možné, že nikdo (příjemce) bude muset dodat na celnici případné dokumenty dokladující hodnotu zasílaného zboží.<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Tak dle &quot;platného&quot; celního sazebníku by se clo nemělo platit. Viz [http://disk.jabbim.cz/ivir@jabbim.com/celni_sazebnik.pdf Sazebník] strana 568. Tedy by se hradilo pouze DPH. Aspoň si myslím, že 20 telefonů jako &quot;dárek&quot; asi neprojde.<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek''&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; No tím lépe, ale tak já to beztak myslel jako celý celní dluh a to dph je právě i z poštovného.<br /> <br /> ''Miloslav Machotka''&gt; Koukám že jsem trochu zaspal dění. :) V [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distribu%C4%8Dn%C3%AD_sch%C3%A9ma distribučním schématu] jsem se připsal k Praze. Mám to nejblíž, jsem z Vlašimi, ale jinak jsem pro to schopen dojet i do Brna. Jsem pro to aby se to vyřešilo, pokud možno, po desítkách a pak to rozvést (rozeslat) po Čechách a Slovensku. Bonusy se asi většině lidí hodí.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; DPH musíme taky platit ?? To je mrzuté. Kolik mají DPH slováci ? nevyšlo by to levněj poslat do Bratislavy a stama ''&quot;propašovat&quot;'' k nám ? Když už máme ten šengen... Nevrátí nám třeba amíci DPH které za to zaplatili u nich ?<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Co je mi známo, tak při obchodování mimo zemi se DPH neúčtuje a účtuje se až v cílové zemi. Dle rok starého článku na měšci je základní sazba stejná, tj. 19%. Od DPH by to šlo odprostit pouze pokud by na tom balíku bylo napsáno, že se jedná o dárek. Pak se na to daň neuplatní. Jakmile se mi povede najít ustanovení/článek, tak jsem dám odkaz.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík''&gt; No ono je stále ještě otázkou, odkud to vůbec budou posílat. Protože sem někde viděl informace, že se budou snažit zásobovat Evropu z nějakého centra v Evropě. O tom dárku jsem taky slyšel, ale prej to taky není zaručený způsob. Celníci se do toho můžou podívat, a uvalit na to daň podle vlastního rozhodnutí (prej). Jinak ale je tu ještě možnost, že by nám to někdo dovezl. Nevíte jak to funguje v tom případě?<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt;&gt;To centrum v Evropě bylo v plánu avšak levněji jim to vyjde posílání z Ameriky, takže bude k dispozici jen jedno centrum v USA. Ohledně toho dárku jsem doposud četl, že jeho částka nesmí přesáhnout 55€, jinak je normálně proclíván. Při osobním převozu jsou nastaveny limity výše viz [http://www.celnisprava.cz/CmsGrc/Cestovani-a-nakupy/Jak-se-chovat/mimo-eu.htm celní správa].<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt;&gt;&gt; Kdyby vezl dva tři tak by možná ukecal že je to dárek ale dvacet... clo vem čert to bude nanejvýš 3,5% což není taková pálka. Spíš kdy se to DPH z toho platí ? Hned na celnici nebo musím podat něco jako daňové přiznání ?<br /> * No tak zatím jsem zjistil že nejspíš jediná šance jak se osvobodit od cla a DPH je že všeci sedem do letadla a zajedem si pro to. Limit je 6000kč na jednu osobu starší 15-ti let.<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Jan Mares''&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Clo se na tento druh zboží nevztahuje. Platí se pouze české DPH, který ti celníci vyměří z ''ceny zboží + doprava + clo'', pak ti v případě fyzické osoby zašlou na tvou poštu, kde uhradíš DPH jako dobírku. U podnikatele je to trošku jiné. VAT (čili americké DPH) na zboží nebude uvaleno, jelikož zboží je vyváženo z USA.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík''&gt; No a dá se tohle spočítat předem? Abysme mohli stanovit cenu?<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek''&gt;&gt; No dokud nebude jasne kolik bude stat postovne (typ + vaha) a jaky bude kurs dolaru, tak presna cena asi tezko.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt;&gt;No co. Tak ti každý pošlem sedm tisíc s tím, že potom přebytky rozdělíš do obálek a budeš předávat s každým telefonem obálku. Jinak to asi dost dobře nepůjde. Jedině že by nám to sem dopravila česká pobočka FIC-u/foxconn. Ale to je podle mně nepravděpodobné.<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek''&gt;&gt;&gt;JJ take myslim, ze bych dal predbeznou cenu 7K s tim, ze uz je poslem, at muzes pruzne zareagovat a ne pak cekat az vsichni poslou.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Kdyby se zase Steve nebo někdo vyjádřil v jakém je to stavu a přidal předběžný odhad kdy se začne prodávat. Teďka je to těžko. Můžou ho vydat zítra ale taky třeba i za půl roku pokud se objeví nějaký složitý problém.<br /> Ještě k té předběžné ceně - dolar není za 15 korun ale za 16,1-16,2 korun I s DPH se do těch 7000 nespíš nevejdem. Jestli že se domluvíme žo začnem posílat peníze tak navrhuju posílat 7500. IMHO dolar už níž nepůjde.<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt; Co jsem se zatím díval na možnosti přepravy (DHL,Fedex,UPS,USPS), tak nejvýhodněji vychází USPS ([http://www.usps.com/ usps.com]), kdy se pohybujeme kolem částky 120$ i s pojištěním (kdyby to bylo cca 10kg což pochybuji). Bohužel maximální pojištění činí 5 000$, přičemž celková částka balíku vychází na cca 7 580$ . U ostatních jsem ohledně pojištění nenašel zmínku, přičemž poštovné vycházelo většinou přes 500$. Z pohledu pojištění by bylo vhodné objednávky rozdělit. Ještě bude záležet jaké poštovní služby nabídnou v e-shopu. Včera u ČSOB byla prodejní cena dolaru na 16,44Kč/$ a musím bohužel souhlasit, že lepší to už nebude. Jinak ceník je k dispozici na této adrese [http://pe.usps.com/text/Imm/ce_019.htm#ep1419781 http://pe.usps.com/text/Imm/ce_019.htm#ep1419781] .<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt; Teď mně napadlo - co kdyby jsem někde založili učet (nejlépe spořící) v dolarech a poslali to tam teď ? [http://www.mesec.cz/clanky/ucet-v-cizi-mene-ano-ale-kde/] Kdyby tak člověk věděl že pozítru neoznámí prodej...<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek''&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Tak urcite bych pockal s placenim na nejake jistejsi vyjadreni, ale necekal bych na otevreni kramu, tehdy uz by chtelo, aby se to dalo hned objednat, co se tyka uctu neverim, ze dolar spadne, ale ani ze poroste a tak bych to neresil.<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt; Vzhledem k množství objednávaného zboží bych možná už využil dopravních společností, které za nás provedou celní odbavení. Aspoň metodický pokyny k vyplnění JSD (jednotný správní doklad) nejsou triviální a zabere to minimálně půlden. Ukázku dokumentu jsme nalezl zde: [http://www.sevt.cz/produkt/jsd-18430-tranzit-60842500/ http://www.sevt.cz/produkt/jsd-18430-tranzit-60842500/].<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek''&gt;&gt; Dole v tom dopisu z celního úřadu se píše: &quot;který má příslušné oprávnění pro hospodářskou nebo<br /> obchodní činnost&quot; to nikdo z nás má?<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek'' &gt;&gt; '''[http://www.trisoft.de/en_freerunner.htm Evropský Distributor]''', ale je celkem dražší.<br /> <br /> ''Radek Machulka'' &gt; Což o to, [http://www.pulster.de/ tady] je o 50 euro levnější, ale nemyslím si, že to bude ve výsledku výhodnější.<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt;&gt;&gt; Co jsem se díval do pokynů, tak to může vyplnit i fyzická osoba, jelikož každý způsobilý občan může provést obchodní činnost. Pouze nesmí být opakovaného rázu, tj. jednorázové obchody. Zkusím se tedy dotázat konkrétněji na tuto část. Ohledně toho evropského distributora nevím. Odhadem to vychází přes 1000 Kč dráž bez poštovného a bez bonusů. Jestliže se nám poradí vyřešit problém s celním úřadem, tak bych spíše volil objednávku z USA. Připadá mi, že tyhle obchody to jen objednají v USA, přijmou a přepošlou s přirážkou.<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek'' &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Take jsem pro USA, jen sem to nasel a ac ten od Radka Machulky je uz zajimavejsi tak verim, ze se dostanem i pod nej a jeste je tam ten obal a sluchatka.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt; Já jsem též pro USA. Ještě by bylo možné (teoreticky) zkusit si to objednat přes nějakého (mešího) obchodníka co bere věci od FIC-u<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek''&gt; Tož sem [[GroupSales#Aktu.C3.A1ln.C4.9B|vyhlásil konkurz]] na koordinátora pražské větve a snad se najde někdo kdo je schopen se vejít do těch zásadních bodů co jsem tam nastínil.<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt; Relativně požadavky splňuji. Mám studentský ČSOB účet mající limit na 1,5M, kartu Visa Classic, angličtinu zvládám na úrovni čtení technické dokumentace, bydlím na Barrandově a jabber též mám (ivir@jabbim.com). Jen tu důvěryhodnost nemám. :) S tím clem to bude ještě zajímavé, ale snad mi ohledně toho ještě poradí z celního úřadu. V nouzi mám k dispozici i OSVČ. :)<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt; Dle [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017531.html příspěvku] bude dovoz zboží do USA zahájen někdy 1.června. K tomu je nutné připočítat min. týden až 3 než zboží dorazí do skladů. Z příspěvku teoreticky vyplývá, že bude i evropský HUB. Snad to bude za stejnou částku a s bonusy. :)<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek''&gt;Podle [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017607.html příspěvku] by měl webový shop odkazovat na us i eu a to vypadá čím dál nadějnějš co se týká poštovného aj cla.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' jestli to dobře překládám tak není jasné jakým způsobem to půjde z činy - jestli lodí nebo letadlem ?<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt; Ano, aspoň takto jsem to pochopil i já. Problémem je ta doba dodání. Jinak co se týká vyřízení JSD (cla), tak u zprostředkovatele [http://www.kama-eu.cz/ KAMA s.r.o.&gt;, jež mi doporučil celní úřad, vychází na cca 1000 Kč viz ceník, což mi připadá přijatelné.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík''&gt; No mně ty informace od Steva přijdou vždycky nějaké zmatené. Nevědí jestli lodí nebo letadlem, ale odejít by to snad mělo až 1.6. (nebo co má znamenat to datum, v jeho zprávě), takže to ještě docela potrvá... :-(<br /> Jan Mareš: můžeš prosím popsat co přesně má být těch 1000Kč a jak se na to přijde? Já tomu pořád nějak nerozumím...<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt;&gt; &lt;font color=&quot;gray&quot;&gt;best case is I would start to test phones around the first of june. Then<br /> pack and ship.<br /> &lt;/font&gt;1.6. začíná testovat telefony a potm je balit a odesílat.&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;font color=gray&gt;The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you<br /> build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says.<br /> &quot;good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on the<br /> test software, because that bad phone really was good.&quot; arrg.&lt;/font&gt; Ale toto nějak moc nechápu.<br /> <br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt; Vychází to takto: 250 Kč (vypracování JSD), 30 Kč (vypracování hodnoty), 250 Kč (jednani za deklaranta), 30 Kč (avízo) a pak asi ručení (350). Je to můj odhad a po konkrétním dotaze by měli sdělit částku. Asi tedy bude třeba připočítat poštovné (250 Kč). Zatím jsem jim napsal dotaz ohledně nepodnikající osoby s tímto množstvím, tak jsem zvědav kdy odpoví.<br /> Tu další část považuji za povzdychnutí, kdy jim vyrobili více telefonů z nichž jen část prošla a továrna chce tohle číslo minimalizovat a že dané chyby byly spíše SW povahy.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' Podle toho co píšeš bych řekl že by vyšlo levněj kdyby jsme brali všechny telefony dohromady.Jaké má výhody osamostatnění Prahy ?<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek'' No nedokazeme pojistit 30telefonu na jejich cenu pri doprave, ale jinak pokud by to clo vyrizovala firma asi by to bylo vyhodnejsi.<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt; Trochu mě znepokojují zprávy v community e-mail archivu, kde uvádějí, že openmoko e-shop využívá služeb UPS. U nich by nebyl problém s pojištěním, ale ty ceny. Cena je de facto konstantní na cca 600$ (při 10kg balíčku), takže pak by bylo vhodné objednávku shrnout dohromady. Pak by to vycházelo o cca 10$ na hlavu více. Snažím se přesvědčit otce jako OSVČ, že by byla objednávka napsaná na něj a tím pádem by odpadl problém s využitím výše uvedené společnosti od nichž jsem dostal zamítavé stanovisko ohledně &quot;neobchodní zásilky&quot;.<br /> <br /> Pak už zbývá využít evropského distributora Pulster.de . Teoreticky mi vychází částka při dovozu z US na 7600 Kč a u Pulsteru na 7 660Kč bez poštovné. Avšak za předpokladu společné hromadné objednávky. V opačném případě je nutné připočíst u US objednávky cca tisícovku (při 10 lidech).<br /> <br /> Zapomněl jsem tedy dodat, že zboží by bylo v republice za 4-5 dnů + pár dnů na vyřízení celního řízení.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík''&gt; veškeré spekulace jsou zatím velmi předběžné, protože ani sami prodejci ještě nemají jasno, za jakých podmínek budou FreeRunner prodávat. Každopádně Pulster se mi docela zamlouvá (viz níže), vypadá že s panem majitelem se dá rozumně domluvit. Asi mu řeknu že objednávám telefonů 40, aby byl kdyžtak ochoten větší slevy nebo nějakého zvýhodnění a nechám tu zásilku jenom rozdělit a poslat do Prahy a sobě... Ale jak říkám, pořád ještě je všechno předběžné, definitivně se rozhodne asi už během tohoto měsíce.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík''&gt; Ještě jedna novinka: pan Christoph Pulster z pulster.de mně oznámil zahájení prodeje debug boardu za &quot;lidovou&quot; cenu 149€ což je docela rozdíl oproti 99$... Takže jak říkám, všechno jsou teď jenom teoretické úvahy jak objednávku zorganizovat. Ikdyž osobně dávám pulster.de naděje, myslím, že se na ceně jak debugboardu, tak telefonu, bude dát domluvit, stejně jako nulová cena za dopravu zní přijatelně :-)<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt; Pražáků je docela nešťastý počet. Jediné co mně napadá je pokusit se domluvit s Plusterem že by vzal 4 desítky z toho nám přeposlal těch 34 a zbytek by si nechal a prodal. A taky chci poděkovat Martinu Šenkeříkovi za to že se o nás tak stará.<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt;Tak je otázkou jak vlastně Pulster bude fungovat. Jako evropský distributor by měl od openmoko odbržet třeba 500ks (na dluh), které pak prodává. Z tohoto pohledu je jedno jaký počet telefonů se objedná. Pochybuji, že ta distribuce je založena na tom, že mi mu zaplatíme a on to objedná z US skladu. Pak by se určitě lépe hodil nákup přímo z US, kdy skrze UPS by se vyřídily všechny formality s celním úřadem. Rozhodující je konečná cena u Pulsteru.<br /> <br /> ''Radek Machulka'' &gt; Tak to vypada, ze si budeme moci vybrat: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-June/019117.html list]<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš''&gt; Žel s ohledem na co nejnižší cenu jsou oba distributori mimo hru, kdy se pohybujeme s cenou kolem 8 700Kč, což je hnedle o tisícikorunu více než při objednání z US. Doufejme, že Pulster nahodí lepší cenu.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt; To je mrzuté. Vypadá to, že se všichni distributoři rozhodli, že si na tom namastí kapsu a spoléhají na to, že nic podobného neexistuje a že je to novinka...<br /> <br /> ''Michal Bořek'' &gt;&gt; Podle té dvojnásobné ceny debug boardu se dá soudit, že nám nic jiného než US nezbude,tyhle EU distributoři jsou fakt jen zlatokopové.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt;&gt;&gt; Doufám že je amíci nezančou dorovnávat.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík'' &gt; Jak jsem už několikrát psal, na jakékoliv spekulace je pořád brzo, situace se stále vyvíjí -&gt; pulster dnes debugboard oficiálně slevnil na 99€. Takže ještě pořád není rozhodnuto. Prostě počkáme s čím kdo přijde (případně distributory trošku nakopnu sám :-)). &quot;Amíci&quot; je rozhodně dorovnávat nezačnou, když od &quot;amíků&quot; to ti Evropští distributoři objednávají ;-)<br /> <br /> ''Miloslav Machotka'' &gt; K diskuzi o zvolení prodejce. Já jsem určitě pro Pulster. Cena je myslím dobrá a hlavně to ušetří Martinu Šenkeříkovi práci, které s náma má i tak dost. A pokud jsem to správně pochopil, řeší to i problém s počtem telefonů nedělitelným deseti. Všichni dostanou za svoje peníze totéž.<br /> <br /> ''František Horínek'' &gt; Veľmi si vážim to, čo pre nás Martin Šenkeřík robí ale mam pocit, že 299€ je viac ako $399 a potom sa stráca akákoľvek zľava. Neviete niekto koľko by stála doprava z USA?<br /> <br /> ''Miloslav Machotka'' &gt;&gt; Podle dnešního kurzu to vychází následovně. 299€ = 7240 kč. 369$ = 5777kč * 1,19 DPH = 6875 kč. A to v tom nemáte dopravu a tu práci s vyřizováním. Nabídka Pulsteru mi přijde jako výhodná.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík'' &gt;&gt; Ok, myslel jsem že je to tu někde sepsané, ale radši to připomenu: 299€ (cca 7300Kč) je definitivní cena, to je cifra kterou dá každý z nás za telefon v případě objednávky od Pulstera. <br /> Naopak cena 369$ (cca 5830Kč) není ani zdaleka konečná. Připočítáme daň 19% a dostaneme se na cca 7000Kč. Stále ještě zbývá připočítat clo a poštovné (aspoň doufám, že jsem správně pochopil, co se podařilo zjistit ostatním). A to nepočítám pravděpodobné papírování a obíhání úřadů (ikdyž někdo myslím psal, že UPS to všechno řeší sama). Když už ne levněji, tak to vyjde minimálně na stejno... Kdyžtak mě doplňte/opravte, kdo se těmi cly zabýval hlouběji.<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš'' &gt; Hezky shrnuto. UPS veškeré papírování ohledně DPH a cla řeší. Telefony spadají do 0% cla, takže se platí jen DPH, které je však vypočítávané i s dopravou, která je je celkem vysoká, aspoň při vypůjčení odhadů od Švýcarů, tj. 3kg za 10 telefonů, tak poštovné bude činit přes 10 000Kč. Takže to vychází nastejno či díky klesajícímu euru i výhodněji. Navíc plusem je 2letá záruka, naproti jednoleté z US.<br /> <br /> ''František Horínek'' &gt;&gt; Ďakujem za objasnenie na DPH som úplne zabudol. Máte pravdu je to výhodné<br /> <br /> ''Luboš Podrázský'' &gt;&gt; Zdravím, tak jsem taky pro Pulster.de. Cena vyjde víceméně nastejno, méně starostí pro organizátory, delší záruka a jestli se tím vyřeší i počet kusů nedělitelný 10-ti, tak asi neni co řešit.<br /> <br /> ''Michal Pěnka'' &gt; Podle všech informací tady a na hlavní stránce groupsales se také přikláním k pulster. Dvouletá záruka není zanedbatelná. Už se těším :)<br /> <br /> ''Karel Volný'' &gt; Pokud od Pulster dostaneme totéž, jako bychom dostali z USA, tak těch případných pár korun navíc klidně obětuju ve prospěch jednodušší organizace.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt; jestli jsem dobře pochopil zprávu na [[Community Updates]] tak by se 4.Července mělo začít prodávat. (...) Jak vůbec bude probíhat potenciální vyřizování reklamace ? Já teda doufám že při prvních kusech budou číňani odpočatí a budou dělat kvalitně, ale při mém štěstí úplně vidím jak to zapnu a ono to zasmrdí...<br /> <br /> ''Radek Machulka'' &gt; Co se týče objednávky, já osobně bych počkal na zahájení prodeje, t.j. na dobu, kdy bude jasné kdo a za jakých podmínek bude FR prodávat. Je pochopitelné, že Pulster.de nemůže potvrdit konečnou cenu, protože si ji víceméně vycucal z prstu.<br /> <br /> ''Jan Mareš'' &gt; Pulster předobjednávky nebere, tady jde spíše o stanovení částky, kterou Martin bude vybírat, aby se vracely jen drobné. Jde o urychlení objednávky, aby na nás vyšli ty univerzální stylusy. :) Ještě je nutné připočíst cca 3 dny na převod peněz na jejich účet. Ohledně té reklamace, tak při tomto způsobu objednání je nutné reklamované zboží zaslat do Pulsteru, kde bude reklamace vyřizována. Šlo by to přímo u FICu, ale české zastoupení prochází převzetím, viz vyjádření níže. Co jsem doposud zachytil, tak všechny FR jsou před balením testovány na funkčnost, takže může dojít k poškození jedině při přepravě, což bychom měli zachytit při přebírání zboží v Brně. Dle dostupných fotek balení jsou FR bytelně baleni, takže ani toto by nemělo hrozit.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt;&gt; Jasně že dělají všecko proto aby byl počet reklamací co nejnižší, konec konců šetří tak peníze sami sobě, ale jsou věci které se dost dobře odzkoušet nedají. Naštěstí FR nemá žádné klouby nebo kryty které by se časem mohly rozpadnout takže mi snad vydrží aspoň 5 let. (...) není jedno jestli se vrací 5korun nebo pětistovka ?<br /> <br /> ''Radek Machulka'' &gt; Já spíš tlumil to nadšení z pulster.de jako nejvýhodnějšího prodejce. Taky si nemyslím, že by nějaký prodejce byl potenciálně vhodnější z pohledu uplatňování případných reklamací.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt;&gt; Tak pluster láká dvouletou zárukou.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt;&gt; Jestli to s Plusterem bude fungovat tak, že pošlu 7500 (tj 300EUR) a dostanu za to FR tak, sice nerad, ale oželím i ten obal. Ono z USA to nejspíš stejně nevyjde o moc levněj. Jestli vůbec. Pokud vezmu 369USD s kurzem 16Kč a k tomu 19% DPH tak jmse rázem na sedmi tisících a to jsme ještě nezaplatili poštovné, na které se to DPH taky vzathuje, + přpadné poplatky za bůhví co.<br /> Já jsem pro pluster.<br /> <br /> ''Vojtěch Vozáb'' &gt;&gt; Asi bych taky byl pro pulster, protože dokud napevno neurčí cenu tak objednávka není závazná (opravte mě jestli se pletu), takže kdyby nějak zásadně zdražil, může se přinejhorším objednávka zrušit a objednat z Ameriky. Hlavně by bylo dobré vyřešit to rychle, pro mě je poslední termín kdy můžu zaplatit ve čtvrtek 26. června a pak až 4. července, mezi tím jsem pryč. To by sice mohlo stačit, protože prodej imho stejně dříve než 4. nezačne, ale bylo by samozřejmě lepší mít jistotu a shromáždit peníze v předstihu.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík'' &gt; S Vojtou jsme to pořešili. A teď abysme zabili nějaký čas, než dorazí telefony k distributorům, bych se vás chtěl zeptat, jestli vám stačí, když číslo účtu pak pošlu mailem, hodím na svůj server a napíšu na wiki? Jestli se to někomu zdá málo bezpečné, navrhněte prosím lepší způsob.<br /> <br /> ''František Horínek'' &gt; Ja si osobne myslím, že mail podpísaný pgp-čkom určite nič nepokazíte. Tiež by nebolo zle hodiť to na osobný server z SSL a rozdistribuovať fingerprint certifikátu. Možno ešte spraviť SHA a/alebo MD5 sumy čísla účtu/IP adresy servera. Hashe a fingerprinty rozosielať iba mejlom. Možno spraviť IRC server na ktorý sa bude dať dostať iba cez VPN/SSH z overovaním kľúča. Samotná komunikácia môže prebiehať v nejakej klasickej šifre napr. Vernamova šifra, ktorá je doteraz považovaná bez klúča za neprelomitelnú. Ale to už je moc veľa paranoje, či nie? :-)<br /> <br /> ''František Horínek'' &gt; teraz ma napadlo, že by sa dali použiť slová z mejlov, keď ste si kontrolovali naše adresy z distribučnej siete, na prístup na v osobný server, Server by sa potom autentifikoval inou časťou mejlu, potom by sa zobrazilo číslo účtu. Tieto texty by potencionálny útočník nemal ako získať.<br /> <br /> Napr 1-3 slovo z prvého odstavca mejlu<br /> <br /> ssh/https: zadajte 1-3 slovo z 1 odstavca mejlu<br /> zadám: &quot;Dnes bylo oficialne&quot;<br /> odpove: 4-5 slovo 1 odstavec &quot;potvrzeno zahajeni&quot;; čislo účtu je 123456789<br /> <br /> tým pádom získam informáciu ktorá je adresovaná len pre oúzky kruh ľudí a ja viem, že tá informácia nie je podvodná.<br /> <br /> Len preto, že som paranoidný neznamená, že ma nesledujú. Idú po mne. :-D<br /> <br /> '' Martin Šenkeřík '' &gt; Uf... No problém je jeden, právě mně dorazil email z Pulster s exkluzivní nabídkou: dorazila mu první zásilka telefonů, obchod ještě neotevírá, ale nám už to nabízí ke koupi. Tzn. můžeme začít vybírat peníze, cenu 299€ potvrdil. Bližší info zveřejním za chvíli. A já už takovou ověřovací aplikaci nestihnu implementovat. Můžeme ještě využít jabber ohin@jabbim.cz - někteří lidé se mnou už komunikovali, takže potvrdí že za ním jsem opravdu já. A můžu pro největší paranoiky odpovědět libovolné otázky. Příp. mám v profilu vyplněn i telefon na sebe.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt;&gt; Pokud mám číslo účtu někoho - jak mu s tím můžu ublížit? Já bych to s tím zabezpečování nepřeháněl. Už jenom proto že posílám nemalý peníz na účet člověka, kterého jsem nikdy neviděl. Rozešli mailem variabilní symboly nebo něco podobného ať naše platby můžeš identifikovat. a nebo ti můžeme do zprávy pro příjemce napsat každý svoje jméno.<br /> <br /> ''Milan Šedý'' &gt;&gt; Taky myslím, že nemusíme být až tak paranoidní. Na identifikaci stačí podle mě zpráva pro příjemce se jménem.<br /> <br /> ''Jan Černý'' &gt;&gt; Jestli jsem správně pochopil ten email od Pulstera, tak se všechno příslušenství včetně obalu a headsetu musí objednat zvlášť. Jak se to bude zařizovat?<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt;&gt;&gt; No já to mám zařízené tak, že obal mně ušije ségra na narozky a bez headsetu se obejdu.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík''&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; hehe, tak když už bude v tom, tak to by mohla ušít pro všechny ;-) Jinak informace k objednávání příslušenství jsou na wiki.<br /> <br /> ''Tomáš Sirný'' &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; tak pozeram ze sme este dopadli dobre [http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner tu] predavaju za 349 Eur a navyse je iba obal.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář''&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; no tak k tomu sestřičku asi nepřesvědčím ;) nic méně jako obal yb se myslím dal použít sášek na brýle. prodávájí se všude možně, stojí kolem 30-ti korun a jsou kvalitní a celkem pěkné. Tak jsem to trošku měřil nejspíš se tam FR vejde.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Erben''&gt; Myslim, ze idealni pouzdro na Neo, je po drobnych upravach (zruseni kozeneho pricneho pasu uprostred a nasiti ve spodni casti) tohle Krusell pouzdro na Treo: http://www.krusell.se/product.php?productID=1491&amp;category=51<br /> Mam ho doma, takze jsem to uz predbezne meril. Mimochodem, pokud bude Pulster souhlasit s SHA poplatky, zrejme nejlepsi zpusob bankovniho prevodu po Evrope je pres euroclearing (SEPA). Sporka to uz podporuje http://www.csas.cz/banka/content/inet/internet/cs/product_cs_129.xml<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt; Ty banky jsou pomalé to je hrůza. Za ty prachy co od nás berou...<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt; Co budem dělat když pluster zahlásí že telefony už nemá ani pro nás ? Počkáme ten měsíc a nebo to vezmem z ameriky ?<br /> <br /> ''Milan Šedý'' &gt;&gt; To by mě taky celkem zajímalo. Ale tak nějak doufám, že nás snad vede v patrnosti. Tak dlouho by se mi čekat vůbec nechtělo, už teď se těším jak šraňky v létě :). Na druhou stranu, z US by možná bylo víc starostí, než užitku.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt;&gt;&gt; Záleží an tom jak se s s ním martin domlouval. Ale jsem dost skeptický.<br /> <br /> ''Karel Volný'' &gt; Prosím, nevíte někdo, s jakými SD kartami je to kompatibilní? - Chci si jednu koupit než vyrazím na dovolenou, což do té doby asi nebudu mít Freerunnera v ruce, abych to vyzkoušel ... co třeba tohle: http://www.alfacomp.cz/php/product.php?eid=105H450821MM09VFWI ?<br /> <br /> ''Michal Pěnka'' &gt; Tak se mi zdá, že se na nás Pulster úplně vybod. Je vidět, že se prosazoval na více frontách a nám se holt jen omluvil. Jestli to totiž dobře chápu, tak máme čekat do 25. července na další zásilku. Je to tak??<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt;&gt; No tak on nám (Martinovi) zatím neodepsal takže je tu určitá šance že nám ty telefony drží. TO karel volný - jednu 512-ku s tím dostaneš.<br /> <br /> ''Milan Šedý'' &gt;&gt; Podle mě by je držet mohl. Ozvali jsme se docela brzo,navíc jemu je přeci jedno kam to posílá, tak proč by měnil pořadí. TO karel volný: myslím že ta kingstoní by v tom fungovat měla, ale ruku do ohně za to nedám :).<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Kovář'' &gt; Jo zjistil sem že se prodávají dvě verze které se líší GSM frekvencemi ''Tri band 850/1800/1900 MHz'' a ''Tri band 900/1800/1900 MHz'' Unás potřebujeme tu verzi s 900MHz.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Krátký'' &gt; Tak myslim, ze Pulster prvni zasilku uz vyprodal skupinam, od kterych uz prisli penize. Takze pochybuju, ze na nas jeste ceka. No a to nejhorsi na tom je, ze zvysil cenu na 329 Euro!<br /> <br /> ''Karel Volný'' &gt; Tož já nevím, amíci se tváří, že 900 MHz verze je vyprodána, tak je momentálně asi jedno, jestli čekat, co Pulster, nebo co oni ... každopádně jestli se ukáže, že nás Pulster vyšplouchnul, tak bych se klonil k tomu se na něj vykašlat i za cenu mírných nevýhod (poloviční záruka, ap.) - vím, že s tím proclíváním je to složitější varianta, ale za sebe jsem ochoten nechat Martinovi kilo navíc za starosti s organizací, jako aspoň takovou malou &quot;náplast&quot;, co ostatní?<br /> <br /> Ad SD - Dík za info. @Pavel Kovář: Jednak 512 MB je dost málo ;-) a jednak to chci s sebou na cestu do GPSky, která taky žere SD, tak abych to mohl použít v obojím.<br /> <br /> ''Milan Šedý'' &gt; S tím kilčem za organizaci bych souhlasil. Jsem pro. Co se týče toho zvýšení ceny, tak to vypadá, že nás pěkně vyšplouch (sice se říká nesuď dne před večerem, ale...). Už to že neodpovídá na maily je divný.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík'' &gt; Ceny zůstaly takové jak jsem je uvedl. FreeRunner za 299€, Headset - 9€, obal - 19€, debug board - 99€. Peníze jsem odeslal, doručení balíku čekám koncem července/začátkem srpna (viz mail od pulstera v aktualitách). Mohli jsme ještě zvažovat, nakolik by to mohlo být z USA rychlejší, ale raději jsem to už odeslal, abych to už uzavřel. Děkuji všem zatím za důvěru, teď už budeme jenom čekat. Už teď nebudu na netu skoro vůbec, objevím se zase až kolem 12.července, tak nemějte obavy, že jsem zdrhl i s penězmi :-)<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík'' &gt; Aktualizoval jsem hlavní stránku. Dále můžu mít od Pulstera 5 originálních OpenMoko baterií do FreeRunnera, každou za 350Kč, což je o 100Kč míň než za oficiální cenu. Bude zájem? Pište sem. Spěchá.<br /> <br /> ''Pavel Erben'' &gt; ad baterie - Já bych si jednu vzal. Mám poslat peníze, nebo se to vyúčtuje při předání?<br /> <br /> ''Jan Černý'' &gt; Taky mám o jednu baterii zájem.<br /> <br /> ''Martin Šenkeřík'' &gt;&gt; Ok, pošli mně teda 120Kč na účet (mám ti vracet 200Kč za telefon, 30Kč za headset, zbývá 120Kč do 350). Dík. Od Brňáků to nevyžaduju, ti mně to dají osobně.<br /> <br /> === Doplňující informace ===<br /> * '''Vyjádření Pulster.de na objednávku většího množství telefonů:'''<br /> Hello,<br /> <br /> on OpenMoko wiki they announced: &quot;Every 10 pack, will come with<br /> a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets.&quot; Will this offer<br /> also be available in your shop? Some discount and bonus gadgets?<br /> I already want to order 20-30 phones to Czech Republic, so I am<br /> trying to find the best way, how to order this amount. Either<br /> from USA or from EU.<br /> <br /> Thank you, Martin Senkerik<br /> <br /> Hello,<br /> <br /> thanks a lot for asking. Right now we dont have Freerunner in<br /> stock, so no idea about earphones/pouches, sorry.<br /> I am happy to provide Czech users with OpenMokos. No customs,<br /> no paperwork, I have a lot CZ customers.<br /> Allow me to put you on the info list once it is avalaible and you<br /> get clear infos about all. We can work out free shipping and <br /> maybe some goodies.<br /> <br /> <br /> heres the standard info text:<br /> <br /> The new modell is called &quot;Freerunner&quot; (version GTA02).<br /> It will be available end of June 2008. We try to aim 300-350 EUR<br /> sales price.<br /> Once it's ready to ship, you willfind it in our shop.<br /> We do not make pre-orders of items we dont have in hands,<br /> so please understand. Once the Freerunner is in stock, ready to<br /> ship, we will send you a one-time info mail (we do not send<br /> you any spam, dont worry).<br /> <br /> Of course we are happy you bookmark us and come back to check<br /> for the nice Freerunner. Please find a small datasheet here:<br /> http://www.pulster.de/info/pdas/openmoko/freerunner-flyer.pdf<br /> <br /> <br /> Beste Gruesse aus Leimen,<br /> Christoph Pulster<br /> <br /> * '''Moje komunikace s pobočkou FIC v ČR:'''<br /> Dobrý den,<br /> <br /> Taiwanský FIC v nejbližších dnech začne s prodejem mobilního telefonu<br /> Neo FreeRunner (www.openmoko.com). Chci se zeptat, jestli bude možné případné<br /> reklamace a opravy řešit u vás?<br /> <br /> Zatím není známý přesný způsob distribuce tohoto telefonu pro Evropu<br /> a Českou republiku. Nebude vaše pobočka zapojena do distribuční sítě?<br /> <br /> Děkuji za odpověď, Martin Šenkeřík<br /> Odpověď:<br /> Dobrý den,<br /> <br /> FIC CZ s.r.o. v těchto měsících přechází pod Foxconn CZ.<br /> V případě reklamace či informací se obracejte přímo na FIC TW.<br /> Kontaktní osobou na Zákaznickém oddělení je<br /> <br /> Mr. James Chang<br /> Customer Service Department<br /> Te.: +886 2 8751 8751 ext.6196<br /> James_chang@fic.com.tw<br /> <br /> S pozdravem<br /> <br /> Jarka Ripplova<br /> <br /> * '''Dotaz na celní úřad ohledně zpracování zásilky:'''<br /> Věc: Informace<br /> <br /> K Vaší žádosti o informaci týkající se hromadného dovozu zásilky pro osobní<br /> potřebu více příjemců Vám sdělujeme:<br /> <br /> Za zásilku zboží neobchodní povahy se ve smyslu celních předpisů považují<br /> zásilky, které jsou dováženy příležitostně a které obsahují výhradně zboží<br /> určené k osobnímu užití příjemců nebo jejich rodin, přičemž toto zboží nesmí<br /> povahou ani množstvím svědčit o obchodním úmyslu dovozce. Z uvedeného<br /> vyplývá, že tzv. sběrná zásilka nemůže být považována za zásilku zboží<br /> neobchodní povahy, i když obsah je určen pro osobní potřebu soukromých osob.<br /> Při dovozu zásilky obchodní povahy je zásilka zadržena při vstupu na celní<br /> území EU a příjemce vyzván k předložení celního prohlášení. Celní formality<br /> uskutečňuje příjemce, který má příslušné oprávnění pro hospodářskou nebo<br /> obchodní činnost.<br /> <br /> Pro zboží zařazené v některé z podpoložek čísla 8517 je celním sazebníkem EU<br /> stanovena sazba cla 0 %. Při dovozu zásilky zboží obchodního charakteru<br /> celní orgány posuzují, zda zboží nepodléhá zvláštnímu řízení podle zákona č.<br /> 38/1994 Sb., o zahraničním obchodu s vojenským materiálem. Vedle cla se při<br /> propuštění dovezeného zboží do volného oběhu v tuzemsku vyměřuje DPH v<br /> základní sazbě 19 %. Základem pro vyměření DPH je cena, za kterou bylo zboží<br /> prodáno do EU, ke které se přičtou náklady na dopravu zásilky do EU, podle<br /> příslušných ustanovení zákona o DPH.<br /> <br /> Celní dluh, jehož součástí je i DPH, se vyměří v českých korunách z celní<br /> hodnoty převedené na české koruny v kurzu platném pro příslušné období.<br /> Aktuální kurzy měn jsou uveřejněny na stránkách Celní správy České republiky<br /> www.cs.mfcr.cz cestou Servis - Kurzovní lístky.<br /> <br /> == To open Colombia groupsales ==<br /> <br /> I wan to open the Colombia-Bogotá group sales.<br /> I want Neo advanced, no matter if the rest of the people wants the other.<br /> my mail: arawaco@ieee.org<br /> Ideas are welcome<br /> <br /> == USA ==<br /> === [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#San_Francisco_Bay_Area San Francisco Bay Area] ===<br /> New group sale<br /> <br /> == Spain ==<br /> <br /> I think that the pulster way is cheaper for all of our group. I'll wait, if I can, to place my order until Moday.<br /> <br /> Pienso que nos sale mas barato por logistica comprar en pulster aunque si estamos cerca podriamos juntar las comandas locales.<br /> <br /> == Mumbai (India) ==<br /> <br /> Ready to order but need at least 50% confirmed orders.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Local pickup will be free.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Per piece price 17100/- (380$ * 45).&lt;br&gt;<br /> This will include shipping cost from Openmoko to Mumbai.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Outside Mumbai customers can add local shipping cost.</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi 2008-07-13T00:09:51Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: </p> <hr /> <div>To get wlan working on your Freerunner, you can follow these steps:<br /> <br /> 1. create and edit a suitable /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf (use your favourite search engine to find the syntax)<br /> <br /> 2. execute `ifup eth0`<br /> <br /> 3. execute `wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B` (-B for running as daemon)<br /> <br /> 4. get a IP via dhcp: `udhcpc eth0`<br /> <br /> That's it, your wlan should now work!<br /> <br /> Sample wpa_supplicant.conf:<br /> <br /> ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant<br /> eapol_version=1<br /> ap_scan=1<br /> <br /> # WPA2:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your ssid&quot;<br /> scan_ssid=1<br /> proto=RSN<br /> key_mgmt=WPA-PSK<br /> pairwise=CCMP TKIP<br /> group=TKIP CCMP<br /> psk=&quot;secret key&quot;<br /> priority=50<br /> }<br /> <br /> # WPA:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your_ssid&quot;<br /> scan_ssid=1<br /> psk=&quot;secret key&quot;<br /> priority=10<br /> }<br /> <br /> # WEP:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your_ssid&quot;<br /> scan_ssid=1<br /> key_mgmt=NONE<br /> wep_tx_keyidx=0<br /> wep_key0=&quot;secret key&quot;<br /> priority=8<br /> }<br /> <br /> # Open:<br /> network={<br /> ssid=&quot;your ssid&quot;<br /> key_mgmt=NONE<br /> priority=5<br /> }<br /> <br /> A very ugly /etc/init.d/wlan startscript:<br /> #!/bin/sh<br /> #<br /> # wlan This shell script starts and stops wlan.<br /> #<br /> # processname: wlan<br /> <br /> # Source function library.<br /> #. /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions<br /> # &quot;written&quot; by HdR<br /> <br /> RETVAL=0<br /> prog=&quot;wlan&quot;<br /> <br /> # test -f /etc/default/$prog &amp;&amp; . /etc/default/$prog<br /> <br /> start() {<br /> echo -n &quot;Starting $prog: &quot;<br /> ifconfig eth0 up<br /> wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B<br /> sleep 10<br /> udhcpc eth0<br /> RETVAL=$?<br /> return $RETVAL<br /> }<br /> <br /> stop() {<br /> # Stop daemons.<br /> echo -n &quot;Shutting down $prog: &quot;<br /> killall wpa_supplicant<br /> ifconfig eth0 down<br /> # killproc gpsd<br /> RETVAL=$?<br /> return $RETVAL<br /> }<br /> <br /> # See how we were called.<br /> case &quot;$1&quot; in<br /> start)<br /> start<br /> ;;<br /> stop)<br /> stop<br /> ;;<br /> restart|reload)<br /> stop<br /> start<br /> RETVAL=$?<br /> ;;<br /> *)<br /> echo &quot;Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}&quot;<br /> exit 1<br /> esac<br /> <br /> exit $RETVAL<br /> <br /> An alternative way to automate adds the wpa_supplicant details to /etc/network/interfaces:<br /> iface eth0 inet dhcp<br /> wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf<br /> Now `ifup eth0` will start up wpa_supplicant and udhcpc for you, and `ifdown eth0` will stop them, in theory at least. In practise udhcpc can time out before wpa_supplicant has finished connecting to the access point, and if udhcpc has failed to get an address ifdown exits without stopping wpa_supplicant and bringing down the interface.<br /> <br /> The second method seems to work reliably on the GTA02, I couldn't get the manual method to work when WPA/PSK is involved. Also you must do ifdown usb0 before the ifup eth0. Then you also need to setup the resolv.conf manually as it does not seem to get the dns server from the dhcp server.<br /> <br /> [[Category:GTA02 Hardware]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems 2008-07-12T20:52:03Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* Basic GPS debugging */</p> <hr /> <div>See [[GPS]] for details on how to evaluate the Freerunner GPS with command line utilities.<br /> <br /> <br /> {|border=&quot;3&quot;<br /> |+Problems I'm having with the GPS<br /> !Username||Checked outside?||External antenna?||Note<br /> |-<br /> |Pthorin ||Yes|| No ||I tried for about 40 minutes outside, I'm running om-gta02 P1-Snapshot-20080622. Did get GPS time outside, but only got lines like: <br /> $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,99.99,99.99,99.99*30<br /> <br /> --[[User:Pthorin|Pthorin]] 05:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC) I tried it out once again after removing the front cover and got a fix quite fast, less than five minutes. Could there be an issue with the case blocking the signals? Could the snap/latch above the antenna be a problem?<br /> |-<br /> |iandouglas ||Yes|| No ||Spent over a half hour outdoors, the NMEA port on my Samsung Blackjack 2 found my position just fine, but also got the same 99.99,99.99,99.99*30 line as Pthorin when powering on the GPS unit, starting gpsd, then running gpspipe at the command line<br /> |-<br /> | genki || Yes || Yes || Same here. Does not get a fix without external antenna. GPS output is 99.99,99.99,99.99*30 as well<br /> |-<br /> |[[User:TimoJyrinki|timo]] || Yes || No || Spent over a half hour outdoors in an open area without nearby buildings. Zero good fixes, no time gotten, GPS output scrolled along with same numbers for the whole time. When I played some more, very rarely I noticed that in the AZ tab a satellite blob had appeared, always at 0 degrees at the top of the picture. But still no fixes at all or anything. ''Update'': Was able to get a fix in (completely) another location. Looks like the signal may be non-existent in many situations even in seemingly very open places, and together with the shaky software it may be sometimes really hard to say if there is a hw problem... ||<br /> |-<br /> | Ole || Yes || Yes || Tried 15min outside w/o external antenna. Did not get any activity on the SS tab. With external antenna from my window TTFS 33s. ||<br /> |-<br /> | Adsllc || Yes || No || Tried 15min outside last night. Got UTC time and a couple of satellites on the SS tab, but no fix. Reseated the GPS connector, still had no luck. This morning I set it outside, did other stuff for 30 mins or so, then came back to see a successful fix and all tabs in the OM AGPS UI app working. Worked fine on a trip to the post office. Tried again later, no joy.<br /> |-<br /> |Dummy ||?|| ? ||<br /> |}<br /> <br /> == Solved problems ==<br /> <br /> ''Let's collect hints which could solve the above problems here. E.g.: How to get the best results with your internal antenna''<br /> <br /> === Basic GPS debugging ===<br /> <br /> It could be that your GPS device is functioning properly, but needs to be &quot;coaxed&quot; into getting an initial fix.<br /> <br /> * Before reporting a problem here, please check that you've had the GPS out in the open air, preferably with the GPS antenna pointed up for over 15 mins. (the screen the right way up, with the top of the phone facing up, and the screen facing the horizon). This should get a lock in even the worst cases.<br /> <br /> * However, you might not obtain a lock if the orientation or position of your phone continuously changes. It needs to be stationary long enough to download a frame of data from one of the satellites. Frames are 1500 bits and take 30 seconds to broadcast. The first 6 seconds of the frame contains clock data; the remainder describes the satellite position. Downloading this data can take a surprisingly long time for two reasons.<br /> *# The GPS reception is sensitive to the orientation of the phone. When you move the phone, it can corrupt part of the current frame.<br /> *# GPS signals reflect off buildings, interfering with reception in seemingly random ways. If local objects cause signal reflections between you and the satellites, the data may repeatedly fail to download; try facing a different direction (and then holding still) after a few minutes without a lock.<br /> * Is your unit obtaining signal at all? Check using the AGPS test program &quot;Openmoko AGPS UI&quot;. Click &quot;Power On&quot; to begin the test. <br /> ** The &quot;ss&quot; button lists satellites and signal strengths; pressing the &quot;dBm&quot; or &quot;C/N0&quot; button at the bottom of the screen cycles through different scales; a signal between 130dBM and 150dBm should be adequate for a lock, assuming the Neo obtains a consistent signal (lower numbers / taller bars are better).<br /> ** It may take a few minutes for the first satellite to appear in this display. You'll need multiple satellite signals to get a lock.<br /> ** Before getting a lock, the &quot;UTC&quot; field in the &quot;run&quot; tab should start displaying the current time. This value is obtained via the GPS antenna; it may take a few minutes for this field to become populated.<br /> <br /> Finally, there is probably room for improvement in the way GPS fixes are currently obtained. GPS devices can obtain fixes at least three different ways. The least sophisticated method downloads a set of current satellite orbits by downloading frames. If part of a frame is corrupted, the GPS device must wait 30 seconds for it to be retransmitted.<br /> <br /> A slightly more sophisticated approach uses an initial estimate of the current time and your position to obtain a lock more quickly. Finally, instead of downloading orbit and position data from the satellites, some modern GPS devices simply recalculate the information locally. Some (or all?) of these optimizations are supported by the Freerunner's GPS device, though the software installed at the factory does not seem to make use of them.<br /> <br /> ==== More Info to get a fix ====<br /> I'd like to stress what is written above, it really helped. I put my FR on a table outside, standing vertically with something to hold it upright, switched to the SS display, clicked the db button, waited about 2 mins to get a bar, then turned it around its vertical axis slowly watching the bar go up and down. When it was facing the right way for a maximum bar length I left it like this, without touching it for about 10 mins, and it was able to find the other satellites and get a fix. It is important to not touch it or move it once it gets the first satellite. However it did lock up solid after about 30 minutes, and power button did not reset, needed to remove the battery which of course lost the fix.<br /> <br /> === Information about faulty antennas ===<br /> <br /> * If you list your problems above, note if you've tried unplugging and replugging the internal GPS connector. (See [[Disassembling_Neo1973]] about 2/3 of the way down. (this may differ on freerunner, pictures appreciated)<br /> <br /> [[FreeRunner_GPS_antenna_repair_SOP]] Indicates that the problem may be bad soldering, and includes a guide to fix. This will presumably void your warranty.<br /> <br /> [[Category:GPS]]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Group_sales 2008-07-11T18:46:32Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* San Francisco Bay Area */</p> <hr /> <div>Openmoko have announced a scheme to sell the forthcoming Neo Freerunner at a discount if bought in multiples of 10 (US$369, instead of 399), to be shipped in one package. Group buying will thus save money on the purchase, and on the shipping. This page is to to organise group purchases by region.<br /> <br /> For calculating shipping costs, the dimensions of one 10-pack is 435mm x 371mm x 119mm. The weight should be around 3kg.<br /> <br /> Steve from Openmoko announced &quot;Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets.&quot;<br /> So join us within a local group !<br /> <br /> &lt;div style='float:right'&gt;__TOC__&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> == [[Group Sales Australia| Australia ]]==<br /> <br /> <br /> == Austria ==<br /> There is a group-buy page at MetaLab, available here: http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko .. we almost have the full 10 slots assigned, and its quite possible that we will order *20* phones, so please register on the Metalab pages and let us know if you're interested .. <br /> <br /> === Salzburg ===<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * D. Kepplinger (at MetaLab)<br /> <br /> === Wien ===<br /> Status: 2/10<br /> * M. Greifeneder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mikegr Contact me here]<br /> * J. Vaughan (torpor) -- http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/torpor Contact me here]<br /> <br /> <br /> === Styria ===<br /> ==== Graz ====<br /> Group 1: Status: 10/10<br /> <br /> * F Hackenberger [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Deadman66 Contact me here]<br /> * J Florineth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Flojoh Contact me here]<br /> * G Michelitsch [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/graf_ithaka Contact me here]<br /> * M Lipp [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Neldoreth Contact me here]<br /> * M Maier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/species Contact me here]<br /> * M Konrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/konni Contact me here]<br /> * K Krammer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krake Contact me here]<br /> * M Prokop [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mika Contact me here]<br /> * C Lauermann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cms Contact me here]<br /> * S Simmer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/StefanS Contact me here]<br /> <br /> Group 2: Status: 4/10<br /> * K Holler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kho Contact me here]<br /> * St Stampler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/stst Contact me here]<br /> * D Pail [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/neotracker Contact me here]<br /> * P Jocham [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Phi01 Contact me here]<br /> <br /> == Belgium ==<br /> === Brussels ===<br /> Status 6/10<br /> <br /> '''NO''' OpenMoko FreeRunner 900/1800 available anymore (on July 3, 2008 at 21h) as needed in Europe. Furthermore,<br /> confirmation: From Pulster.eu: ''Our sales price is 299 EUR + shipping 15 EUR in Europe = 314 EUR. The idea of &quot;open&quot; is ours. So check our price calculation: if you order the Freerunner from Taiwan, it's 399 USD + 100 USD shipping + c. 90 USD &quot;import taxes&quot; inside Europe. Total 589 USD = c.380 EUR. So it will be cheaper and we Europeans have 2 years of warranty when buying from Pulster, instead of a 14 days(?) for imported goods.''<br /> <br /> Cancelled for the above reason (and not 10 people reached) * npettiaux [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Npettiaux Contact me here]<br /> * jwarnier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jwarnier Contact me here]<br /> * mvanderdonck [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nicodache Contact me here]<br /> * lpirotte [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lpirotte Contact me here]<br /> * Ciaran [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ciaran Contact me here]<br /> * Lleonard [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lleonard Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Flanders ===<br /> ==== Aalst/Aarschot/Gent/Brugge ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> * XVens, mailto: xavier DOT vens AT gmail DOT com<br /> * Arno85, mailto: aaron DOT helin AT gmail DOT com, Kortrijk<br /> <br /> * Yvo Brasseur, mailto: yvo_brasseur AT archon DOT be Living in Aarschot, working in Brussels.<br /> * Kamil Kubacki, mailto: kamil DOT kubacki AT gmail DOT com [or kamil.kubacki@gmail.com]<br /> <br /> ps: Dolfje think it will be cheaper to buy it from pulster.de. Can anyone confirm?<br /> <br /> Confirmation: From Pulster.eu:<br /> <br /> Our sales price is 299 EUR. The idea of &quot;open&quot; is ours. So check our price calculation: if you order the Freerunner from Taiwan, it's 399 USD + 100 USD shipping + c. 90 USD &quot;import taxes&quot; inside Europe. Total 589 USD = c.380 EUR.<br /> <br /> So it will be cheaper and we Europeans have 2 years of warranty when buying from Pulster, instead of a 14 days(?) for imported goods.<br /> You can read all advantages on pulster.eu<br /> <br /> ==== Antwerp ====<br /> Status 11/10<br /> <br /> * michielv [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Michielv Contact me here]<br /> * Peter N [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubsy Contact me here]<br /> * Ivo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ivo Contact me here] on holiday from july 18th until august 10th.<br /> * Peter Leemans, mailto: peter AT x-tend DOT be<br /> * Richard B [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/richardb Contact me here]<br /> * Jeroen Van Goey [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BioGeek Contact me here]<br /> * Jeroen D [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jeroendoggen Contact me here]<br /> * Diego Garcia, mailto: didac.garcia AT gmail DOT com<br /> * Sam Geeraerts (Laakdal) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Samgee Contact me here]<br /> * Stefaan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Stefaan Contact me here]<br /> * Bert_2 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bert_2 Contact me here] If they aren't cheaper via Pulster.<br /> * Gaston [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gaston Contact me here]<br /> <br /> Status 1/10<br /> * Jove [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jove Contact me here] I would like a developer board too.<br /> <br /> Perhaps if we have a few more users, we can redistribute the groups geographically?<br /> <br /> === Wallonia ===<br /> ==== Walloon Brabant ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Istvan, mailto: buki DOT istvan AT gmail DOT com<br /> <br /> == Brasil ==<br /> === Nordeste ===<br /> <br /> ==== Ceará ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Alexandre Sousa [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:asm Contact]<br /> ** Endereço para entrega: Fortaleza<br /> <br /> ==== Bahia ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Valessio Brito [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Valessio Contact]<br /> ** Endereço para entrega: Salvador - Bahia<br /> <br /> === Sul ===<br /> ==== Paraná ====<br /> Status: 5/10<br /> * Beraldo Leal [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/beraldo Contact]<br /> * Cleber Santz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Clebersantz Contact]<br /> * Jacson Querubin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Spacial Contact]<br /> ** 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - avançado) <br /> * Mauro Nogueira [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mandcap Contact]<br /> * Osvaldo Santana Neto [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/osantana Contact]<br /> <br /> Tenho endereço de entrega para as seguintes cidades:<br /> * Foz do Iguaçu, PR;<br /> * Cascavel, PR;<br /> * Curitiba, PR;<br /> * São Paulo, SP;<br /> <br /> Valor: Aproximadamente USD 4.100,00 (10 aparelhos + frete UPS). Há também o valor do frete para entrega final para quem não for retirar pessoalmente quando chegar.<br /> <br /> == Bulgaria ==<br /> === Sofia ===<br /> ==== Sofia ====<br /> Status : 8/10<br /> <br /> * Dimitar Staykov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OpenMitko Contact] (Pulster)<br /> * Vernim, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vernim Contact]<br /> * Geo, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/geomer Contact]<br /> * Iceman, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ice Contact], 02 July 2008 ([http://www.pulster.de/engl/openmoko.htm Pulster])<br /> * jdivanov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jdivanov Contact], 16 June 2008<br /> * luchoh, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/luchoh Contact], 26 June 2008<br /> * nninov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nninov Contact], 26 June 2008<br /> * danov2, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/danov2 Contact], 30 June 2008<br /> <br /> == Canada ==<br /> <br /> === British Columbia ===<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * Dave (Vancouver) Vancouver Linux users group mailto: doc AT skynet REMOVE dot REMOVE ie - organising this group<br /> * Justin (Vancouver): mailto: stryderjzw AT gmail<br /> * Robert (Vancouver) - robtaylor &lt;AT&gt; tinsputnik &lt;DOT&gt; com (1 unit)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> '''Group 2'''<br /> <br /> Status: 4?/10<br /> <br /> * Chris (Vancouver) - chris (AT) fourthandvine (DOT) com (1 unit)<br /> * Ali (Vancouver) - hit2436 (A-T) hotmail (dot) com (1 units)<br /> * Rob (Vancouver) - rtymensen (at) gmail (DoT) com (1 unit)<br /> * James (Vancouver) - james (at) greycastle (dot) net (1 unit)<br /> <br /> === Alberta ===<br /> Status : 10/10 (this order has already been placed)<br /> <br /> * [[User:Wuth|Wuth]] (Pincher Creek) : [mailto:wuth@acm.org] : 1 unit + 1 debug board<br /> * [[User:Slm3095om|stacy]] (2 units) : slm3095om AT millions dOt ca<br /> * [[User:Abnormal|Morgan]] : [mailto:lightningperf@hotmail.com]<br /> * [[User:picosrfr|Will]] (High Level) : [mailto:will.siddall@gmail.com]<br /> * [[User:Shadowwolf|Vince]] (Red Deer) : 1 Unit + 1 Debug board [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Shadowwolf Get a hold of me here]<br /> * [[User:Deanb2|Dean]] (Calgary) : [mailto:deanb@gbtn.net]<br /> * [[User:jimb|jim b]] (Edmonton) : [mailto:callonjim@gmail.com][http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jimb mokomail]<br /> * [[User:Crz|Steve]] (Calgary) : 1 unit, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crz Contact]<br /> * [[User:Belrick|Bruce]] (Calgary) : 1 unit [mailto:bruce.elrick@gmail.com email]<br /> <br /> === Ontario/Quebec ===<br /> ==== GTA (Toronto) ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * Gerald A [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Historybuff Contact me here]<br /> * MattC, mailto: quirkz AT gmail<br /> * Sergey K, openmoko AT deeptown dOt org<br /> * Daniel Lister, gmail(dan.lister)<br /> * Ronnie Wong: '''3 units''' - r25wong AT ryerson dOT ca<br /> * Paul V, contact using gmail, original.roju<br /> * Matt Manjos, matt (AT) manjos * com<br /> * Steven O'Reilly, soreilly AT walled DOT net<br /> <br /> Group 2 Status (Hamilton): 6/10<br /> <br /> * Gabriel D - ace AT staticwave DOT ca<br /> * Richard D - rtdegelder --&gt; gmail.com<br /> * Steve S - ssinger_pg AT sympatico dot ca<br /> * Wolfram Kahl - kahl McMaster CA<br /> * Paul Wouters - paul@xelerance.com '''1 units'''<br /> * John Hurley - nybble at eml dot cc<br /> <br /> Group 3 Status (Montréal): 2/10<br /> * Patrick Hétu - patrick AT koumbit DOT org<br /> * Eric Lebel - lebeleri AT aei DOT ca<br /> <br /> Shall we start Group 4 (Toronto) ?<br /> * Michael Mather - firstname.lastname AT teksavvy.com<br /> <br /> Group 5 Status (Ottawa): 2 / 10<br /> * Mathieu Charron - mathieu.charron AT elwillow.net (maybe 2 units, one for a friend)<br /> <br /> == Chile ==<br /> === Santiago ===<br /> Status : 5/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Mankeke]] Ricardo Manríquez C., mailto: ricardo.manriquez &quot;remove this and add AT&quot; gmail &quot;dot&quot; com<br /> * [[User:XKnightmareX]] Gonzalo Pesenti., mailto: mare.knight1 &quot;remove this and add AT&quot; gmail &quot;dot&quot; com<br /> * [[User:Freyes]] Felipe Reyes., mailto: felipereyes &quot;remove this and add AT&quot; gmail &quot;dot&quot; com<br /> * [[User:crsepulv]] Cristian Sepúlveda, mailto: sepulveda.cristian@gmail.com<br /> <br /> === Valdivia ===<br /> * [[User:alvherre]] Álvaro Herrera, mailto: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org (I'm OK with joining the guys in Santiago)<br /> <br /> == China ==<br /> === BeiJing ===<br /> Status:10/10<br /> *Luther &lt;br/&gt; mailto:lutherluo@qq.com &lt;br/&gt; 2 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br /> *Gnosy &lt;br/&gt; mailto:gnosyhh@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br /> *Bin Zong &lt;br /&gt; mailto:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 Freerunner &lt;br/&gt; MSN:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com<br /> *Lee zaixin&lt;br /&gt; mailto:shqlzx@126.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 Freerunner &lt;br/&gt;<br /> *Zhuwei&lt;br /&gt; mailto:grissom_zhu@139.com &lt;br/&gt; MSN:wyh0310@hotmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 Freerunner &lt;br/&gt;<br /> *zhaojun&lt;br/&gt; mailto:zhaojun1631@163.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> *Benoit Begue&lt;br/&gt; Retired: please count me out, I'm leaving Beijing sooner than expected. Sorry for this.&lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner<br /> *Tristan&lt;br/&gt; mailto:0x5478(at)gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; MSN:liu_bei_bei(at)hotmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br /> *Lalo&lt;br/&gt; lalo dot martins at gmail (do ''not'' email me with random stuff, specially in Chinese!)&lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner<br /> *Lu Kuo&lt;br /&gt;Email and MSN: koreylu#hotmail.com (substitute @ for # please)&lt;br /&gt;1 freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> <br /> Status:2/10<br /> *Hong Zhiyi &lt;br/&gt; mailto: zhiyi.hong@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner<br /> *Yang Ming &lt;br/&gt; mailto: yangm.cn at gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner.<br /> <br /> === ShangHai ===<br /> Status:5/10<br /> &lt;br/&gt; <br /> * Pajda, info on my [[User:Pajda|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Pajda|contact me here]]. 1 x freerunner<br /> * ChandleWEi mailto:chandle.wei@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> * YxunLan mailto:dennis.yxun@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> * Leongoo [[Special:Emailuser/Leongoo|Contact]] 1 x freerunner<br /> * Exp &lt;br/&gt; mailto: linyuan2 at 163.com or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Experience|Cotact me here]] &lt;br/&gt; 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> <br /> === Guangzhou ===<br /> Status:2/10<br /> *Geoffrey &lt;br/&gt; mailto:dghfalcon@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug borad.<br /> *monomania &lt;br/&gt; mailto:simulacrumqiu@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner.<br /> <br /> == Colombia ==<br /> === Bogotá ===<br /> Status: 5/10<br /> * Javier Rojas. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:jerojasro@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Gustavo Andrés Angulo. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:woakas@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Exell E. Franklin J. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:arawaco@ieee.org&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Fredyrivera, Humano. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:fredyrivera@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Juan Carlos Castellanos. Phone. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:juancastellanosm@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> == Denmark ==<br /> If we do not reach a total large enough, Denmark **is** a very small place - surely we could figure out a way of getting them to find their way 'round the country :)<br /> <br /> === EU (german) vs. Direct (OpenMoko) discussion ===<br /> <br /> Esben Damgaard has created a Google Group discussion to evaluate which is the optimal:<br /> http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk<br /> <br /> [[User:asbjorn | Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asbjorn (contact)] has [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk/browse_thread/thread/cd68b49d8520ecd2# offered] to act as invoice hub for group sales from either OpenMoko or Handheld-Linux. [[User:asbjorn | Details]]<br /> <br /> === Invoice considerations ===<br /> <br /> According to Lone Borre from SKAT.dk the rules are different if the buyer is private or a company. If a company buys the phone the invoice must be addressed to the company and the company must be a registered importer. This makes it harder to do a group sale in which 2 of the recipients need an invoice. <br /> <br /> === Jutland ===<br /> ==== Aalborg ====<br /> Status: 7/10<br /> <br /> Should anyone need it, transportation from Aalborg to Thisted for phones can be arranged, if you don't want to pick it up in Aalborg yourself :) ~leinir<br /> <br /> As it looks right now, it seems that it would be cheaper and easier for us to buy through Pulster in Germany - see the following email: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017778.html ~leinir<br /> <br /> * Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:admin@leinir.dk &lt;br /&gt; [[User:Leinir]]<br /> * Fabian Olesen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:firewalkerx@gmail.com<br /> * Helge Willum Larsen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:helge.at.helges.dk<br /> * Kristian Lindemann Larsen (2 stk)&lt;br /&gt; mailto:walker@pandia.dk<br /> * Brian Olsen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:downloader@pandia.dk<br /> * Henrik Odder Jensen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:herakles@pandia.dk<br /> <br /> ==== Aarhus ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * Kent S. Knudsen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Forestmountain contact me here] - [[User:Forestmountain]] (&lt;strike&gt;2 phones; will join any danish group if necessary&lt;/strike&gt;)<br /> * Lars Jensen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/el_senator contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)<br /> Kent &amp; Lars: As of 5/7: We have ordered 10 units (all in all with Fyn) from handheld-linux.com. Arguments here: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk The deal is closed.<br /> <br /> * Martin Pedersen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cheeses contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)<br /> <br /> ==== Skjern ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Carlo]]<br /> <br /> ==== Sønderborg ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * Theis Hjorth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Theis.hjorth contact me here] (1 phone + 1 devkit) &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> === Fyn ===<br /> Status: 10/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:EsbenDamgaard]] (need 3 (Looney &amp; Gert))<br /> * [[User:apm]] (need 1 with invoice - can pick up in Copenhagen)<br /> * [[User:LarsOPoulsen | Lars Poulsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LarsOPoulsen (contact)] (1 phone)<br /> <br /> Peter: As of 5/7: We have ordered 10 units (+5 for Århus) from handheld-linux.com.<br /> Arguments here: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk<br /> The deal is closed.<br /> <br /> === Sjælland ===<br /> ==== Copenhagen ====<br /> Status: 12/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:jrcarlsen | Johnny Rose Carlsen]] (+45) 28 14 60 04 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jrcarlsen (contact)] 1 phone<br /> * [[User:Fursund]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fursund (contact)] 1 phone<br /> * [[User:tabac | Thomas Ammitzbøll-Bach ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tabac (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1 phone&lt;/strike&gt; Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:chel | Christian E. Lysel ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chel (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1 phone&lt;/strike&gt; Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:UlrikRasmussen | Ulrik Rasmussen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/UlrikRasmussen (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1&lt;/strike&gt; Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:OleTange | Ole Tange]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OleTange (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;I need 14 with invoice&lt;/strike&gt; - Buying through pulster.de because of the invoice considerations mentioned above)<br /> * [[User:Pascal | Pascal d'Hermilly]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pascal (contact)] (Buying through US-openmoko shop)<br /> * [[User:maha | Martin Hansen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/maha (contact)] (3 with invoice)<br /> * [[User:SvenneK | Svenne Krap ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/SvenneK (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1&lt;/strike&gt;) Buying through Handheld-linux through [[User:asbjorn|Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen]].<br /> * [[User:bss | Bo Stendal Sørensen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bss (contact)] (1)<br /> * [[User:Glenn | Glenn Møller-Holst]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Glenn (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;2 freerunners + debug board, +invoice&lt;/strike&gt; - Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:knmeister | Kristian Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/knmeister (contact)] &lt;strike&gt;(I need 1 with invoice)&lt;/strike&gt; Seems it is easier to buy from a reseller.<br /> * [[User:hammerfar | Henrik Hammer Berthelsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hammerfar (contact)] (2 with invoice) - ordering through [[User:asbjorn|Asbjørn]] as a hub.<br /> * [[User:Bubbi | Steen Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubbi (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;2 with invoice&lt;/strike&gt; - buying through reseller)<br /> * [[User:asbjorn | Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asbjorn (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice) I has [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk/browse_thread/thread/cd68b49d8520ecd2# offered] to act as hub for group sales from OpenMoko and Handheld-Linux.<br /> * [[User:KlaymenDK | Jan Gundtofte-Bruun]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KlaymenDK (contact)] -- will wait until software is stable enough to work as primary mobile phone<br /> <br /> == Estonia ==<br /> === Tallinn ===<br /> Let's see if we can get ten people together for this. I'm willing to organise the local distribution if we can. Spread the word and try to get more locals interested in it. [[User:Yogiz|Yogiz]] 08:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Yogiz | Yogiz]] ([mailto:yogizz@gmail.com contact]) 1 phone<br /> * [[User:Zooter | Zooter]] ([mailto:zooter@hot.ee contact]) 1 phone<br /> <br /> == Finland ==<br /> <br /> See also [[Openmoko Local Groups: Finland]], if you're interested.<br /> <br /> === Possible new order(s) ===<br /> <br /> Status: 4/10<br /> These did not participate in the pulster.de order(s) shown below.<br /> <br /> Helsinki:<br /> <br /> * Ilari Oras &lt;br /&gt; ilari DOT oras AT welho DOT com<br /> * Jaakko Nissi &lt;br /&gt; jnissi AT pallokorva DOT org<br /> * Jerry Jalava &lt;br /&gt; jerry DOT jalava AT iki DOT fi<br /> <br /> Turku:<br /> <br /> * Jaakko Lehtinen, jaakko dot lehtinen at gmail dot com<br /> <br /> Pulster.de now sells individual phones at 329€/phone, but 10-packs at 299€/phone.<br /> <br /> === Already ordered ===<br /> ==== Uusimaa ====<br /> (Note to gta02v6 waiting people:&quot;The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT<br /> LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption&quot;. So, there is should be no reason to wait for V6. See also [[Neo FreeRunner GTA02 Hardware#GTA02v6]].)<br /> <br /> ===== Helsinki I =====<br /> '''THIS GROUP OF 10 NEOS HAS BEEN ORDERED''' (from pulster.de)<br /> <br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * Mikko Rauhala x2 [mailto:mjr@iki.fi mjr@iki.fi]<br /> * Aleksi Hankalahti &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi]<br /> * Seppo Hätönen &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:karrde@iki.fi karrde@iki.fi]<br /> * Ville-Pekka Vainio &lt;br /&gt; vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi<br /> * Heikki Hallamaa &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi]<br /> * Tomi Jylhä-Ollila &lt;br /&gt; tomi.jylha-ollila@helsinki.fi<br /> * Richard Braakman<br /> * Timo Jyrinki &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:timo.jyrinki@iki.fi timo.jyrinki@iki.fi]<br /> * Jussi Kekkonen &lt;br /&gt; tmt AT ubuntu DOT com (moved from below as one slot became available here)<br /> <br /> ===== Helsinki II, Turku &amp; Vaasa=====<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Rhk DISCUSS HERE]<br /> <br /> Status : 3/10<br /> <br /> '''THIS GROUP OF 4 NEOS HAS BEEN ORDERED (3+1 (lindi) from outside this list)''' (from pulster.de)<br /> <br /> * Risto H. Kurppa &lt;br /&gt; risto AT kurppa DOT fi<br /> * Aapo Rantalainen &lt;br /&gt; aapo DOT rantalainen AT gmail DOT com<br /> * Matti Laakso &lt;br /&gt; matti DOT laakso AT kotiposti DOT net<br /> <br /> &lt;del&gt;Vaasa:&lt;/del&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;del&gt;* Mikko Niemikorpi, mikefulli ÄT gmail PISTE com&lt;/del&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Lappi ====<br /> ===== Kemi =====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> '''ORDERED'''<br /> <br /> 4kpl tilattu pulster.de:stä. Tilaus ei ehtinyt ensimmäiseen erään. Tilaukseen varmaan voi lisätä vielä tavaraa, jos halukkaita löytyy.<br /> <br /> '''[[User:Cg|Discuss the order here]]'''<br /> <br /> Kemi:<br /> * Henri Valta &lt;br /&gt;henri PISTE valta ÄT kemi PISTE fi<br /> * Tommi Juvonen &lt;br /&gt;tassi ÄT mediapumppu PISTE info<br /> * Jaakko Pörhö &lt;br /&gt;ensteinfrank ÄT hotmail PISTE com<br /> * Tuomo Mattila (Oulu)&lt;br /&gt;tuomom ÄT ee PISTE oulu PISTE fi<br /> <br /> == France ==<br /> === Bretagne ===<br /> ==== Brest ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * StevenLeRoux [mailto:steven@pourri.fr steven@pourri.fr] Jabber_Id:Steven@jabber.fr<br /> * Acheteur potentiel #2<br /> <br /> ==== Rennes ====<br /> Status : 3/10<br /> <br /> * Cédric DUFOUIL (openmoko at tsleg point com)<br /> * Yves MAHE (ymahe at zindep dot com)<br /> * Guillaume BERTHELOM (yogui29 at gmail dot com)<br /> <br /> === Pays de la Loire ===<br /> ==== La Roche sur Yon ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vtouchar Vincent Touchard]<br /> <br /> ==== Nantes ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> * [[User:Yoann|Yoann ARNAUD]]. OK for a ship in Rennes if needed. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Yoann Contact me here]<br /> * [[User:sim51|Benoît SIMARD]]. Idem [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sim51 Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Nord ===<br /> <br /> <br /> === Ile de france ===<br /> ==== Paris ====<br /> Status : 21/30<br /> <br /> * StevenLeRoux<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Phyce|Phyce]]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')<br /> * &lt;s&gt; Yann SLADEK&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')<br /> * [[User:Wilk|Wilk]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wilk Contact me here]<br /> * Jonathan Magano ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JonathanMM Contact me here])<br /> * Benjamin Renard (bn8[AT]zionetrix.net)<br /> * [[User:OlivierBerger|OlivierBerger]]<br /> * [[User:BartGS|BartGS]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BartGS Contact me here]<br /> * [[User:rcoscali|Rémi Cohen-Scali]]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Valos|Valéry Febvre]]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Manou|Emmanuel Raviart]]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')<br /> * Le Troll Farceur ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LeTrollFarceur Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:mshook|Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer]]<br /> * [[User:LoicMinier|Loïc Minier]]<br /> * [[User:chansen|Cyril Hansen]]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:hbernard|hugues]]&lt;/s&gt; (beartech)<br /> * Titilambert ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/titilambert Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:Raphux|Raphux]]([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Raphux Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:tuXXX|Damien Thébault]] (Contact me [[User:tuXXX|here]] or [[Special:Emailuser/tuXXX|here]])<br /> * [[User:kkum|Kumar]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/kkum|here]])<br /> * Gand' ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gand' Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:Sporniket|David SPORN]]<br /> * [[User:Bedo|Bedo]]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Ainulindale|Julien Cassignol]]&lt;/s&gt; (commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop)<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Theocrite|Theocrite]] &lt;/s&gt; (commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop)<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Gui82|Gui82]]&lt;/s&gt; (commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop)<br /> * [[User:Yciabaud|Yoann Ciabaud]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/yciabaud|here]])<br /> You may also see :<br /> http://bearstech.com/shop<br /> <br /> === Lorraine ===<br /> ==== Nancy ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:mosan|Nicolas Salles]]<br /> <br /> === Rhône-Alpes ===<br /> ==== Lyon ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/patou Vincent MEURISSE]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pini Gilles FILIPPINI]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')<br /> <br /> ==== Grenoble ====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * &lt;s&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbollard Philippe]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aurelien Aurelien] (''commande groupée en préparation sur http://www.guilde.asso.fr/wiki/Openmoko '')<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Hey_popey Damien]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/swap38 Johann] (''commande groupée en préparation sur http://www.guilde.asso.fr/wiki/Openmoko '')<br /> <br /> === Alpes de Haute Provence ===<br /> ==== Manosque ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cfdev Cyril]<br /> <br /> === Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur ===<br /> ==== Sophia Antipolis ====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nico.inc Nicolas HUOT]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xavier_OM Xavier CREMASCHI]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasile Vasile Jureschi]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Herve5 Hervé Sainct]<br /> <br /> === Midi-Pyrénées ===<br /> ==== Toulouse ====<br /> <br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Ortalo|Ortalo]]<br /> <br /> == Germany ==<br /> === Baden-Württemberg ===<br /> ==== Karlsruhe ====<br /> Out:<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Spacemarine|Spacemarine]] I'm out. Since the Freerunner is available for 300 Euro in Germany, I don't see any point in organizing a groupbuy anymore. I've sent an email to everyone else interested in the groupbuy. If you are in this list or if I met you on the Kalug Meeting, you should have gotten it.<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Dr.Nop|Dr.Nop]] (Habe mein Telefon jetzt ebenfalls bei Pulster bestellt.)<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Gollum|Gollum]] Pulster doesn't give away the extra goodies, but the price still seems fair -- I'm out, too.<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Archimedes|Sebastian]] I'm going to buy at pulsters (299€) =&gt; I'm out<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Cfo|cfo]] I think the offer of pulster is fair! =&gt; I'm out<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/BlackFog|BlackFog]] thinks he has to wait for the next Pulster delivery date<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Adonres|Adonres]] I'll buy at pulsters, too =&gt; I'm out<br /> <br /> <br /> Still In:<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/JensB|JensB]]<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Gromgull|Gromgull]] (in Kaiserslautern, but Karlsruhe is close enough, and I doubt that I'll find 10 people here.<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Ebi|Ebi]]<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/RIdd3r|Fabian]]<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Roduit|Roduit]] In Heidelberg. Karlsruhe is close enough.<br /> <br /> ==== Leonberg ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Agon|Agon]] Maybe 1 Freerunner.<br /> ----<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/ZaPPaS|ZaPPaS]] Sice the Freerunner is available for a comparable price at [http://www.pulster.de/] I will buy there...<br /> <br /> ==== Tübingen ====<br /> Status 6/10<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/NoBody|NoBody]] close to tuebingen and stuttgart (between both)<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/eliasp|eliasp]] (3 Freerunner (me, qknight + sbock) - Tübingen downtown<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/nobs|nobs]] thinking about buying one; if I am #10, count me in; if there is someone else #11 you can drop me<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/marjay|marjay]] take also one (Dettingen/Erms)<br /> <br /> Out:<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/MiTo|MiTo]] 299 Euro bei Pulster.de sind ein fairer Preis, kaufe es deshalb dort.<br /> <br /> ==== Ulm ====<br /> Status: 2/10<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/mzanetti|mzanetti]] <br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Lord_Evil|Lord_Evil]] ich nehm auch eins. Evtl. kann ich mich auch an Augsburg anhängen.<br /> <br /> === Bayern ===<br /> <br /> ==== Augsburg ====<br /> <br /> Status 5/10<br /> I just want to see if there are enough people to fill up to ten. So add your name here if you are interested.<br /> <br /> *[[Special:Emailuser/Whoever|whoever]] - Ich nehm eins, wenn die Münchner keines übrig haben.<br /> *[[Special:Emailuser/paddy2706|paddy2706]] - Ein OpenMoko bitte :)<br /> <br /> Wann werden die dann bestellt/gezahlt? Dauert bei mir no kurz bis ichs Geld für zusammen hab aber dann nehm ich eins.<br /> MfG [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MookiE MookiE]<br /> <br /> Hallo, ich würde mich für einen Freerunner interessieren. Wie sieht es mit Zoll aus? Kommt der noch dazu?<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Murks Murks]<br /> <br /> $3690 (10 Freerunner) <br /> + $ 160 (Versand lt. Australiern)<br /> =======<br /> $3850<br /> <br /> $3850<br /> + $ 732 (19% Einfuhrumsatzsteuer)<br /> + $ 0 (kein Zoll für Handys)<br /> =======<br /> $4582<br /> <br /> $458 / 1,5$/€ = 305 € pro Telefon (als Richtwert)<br /> <br /> ==== München ====<br /> Momentan Favorisiert: Bestellung bei Pulster<br /> <br /> Wenn du bei der Sammelbestellung der Münchner User Group mitmachen möchtest, dann gehe bitte zur <br /> '''[[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup Seite]]'''!<br /> <br /> Hilf mit, eine [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup]] aufzubauen!<br /> <br /> Die alte Liste habe ich entfernt, da suf der User Group Seite eine aktuelle ist. (koebi)<br /> <br /> === Berlin===<br /> ==== Berlin ====<br /> <br /> Help to form a [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Berlin|Berlin User Group]]!<br /> <br /> Status 20/20<br /> * Stephan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Fischel Contact me here]<br /> * Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Thebohemian Contact me here]<br /> * Nico [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Nico Contact me here]<br /> * Bastian [[User:Fries43]]<br /> * Sven-Ola [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Sven-ola Contact]<br /> * Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:arnepp Contact me here]<br /> * MM [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:MM Contact]<br /> * Keks [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Keksdosenmann Contact]<br /> * Matthias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:mk Contact]<br /> * Norbert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Noha Contact]<br /> * Joscha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Joka Contact]<br /> * Janne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Janne Contact]<br /> * Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Robx Contact]<br /> * Conrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Caribu Contact me here]<br /> * govindas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:govindas Contact me here]<br /> * philippt [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:philippt Contact me here if you dare ;-)]<br /> * Stephan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Su2 Contact me here]<br /> * Iván [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:ogai]<br /> * david [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:dk Contact]<br /> * kajik [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:kajik contact]<br /> <br /> === Bremen ===<br /> ==== Bremen ====<br /> Status 3/10<br /> * Gero Mudersbach [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gero Contact me here]<br /> * Hartje Bruns [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrBurns Contact me here]<br /> * Timo Scheffler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Faldrian Contact me here]<br /> <br /> ==== Bremerhaven ====<br /> <br /> === Hamburg ===<br /> ==== Hamburg ====<br /> Status 9-10<br /> <br /> * Jan 4-5[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jan07 Contact me here]<br /> * Varacanero [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/varacanero Contact me here]<br /> * Ole 3-5 pcs [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Olemoko Contact me here]<br /> * Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/GuraX Contact me here]<br /> * Arne.anka 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Arne.anka Contact me here]<br /> * Wasili Goutas 1pc + debug adapter [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Laki Contact me here]<br /> * mimbeck 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mimbeck Contact me here]<br /> * savi 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savi Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Hessen ===<br /> ==== Frankfurt ====<br /> Status 1-10<br /> <br /> * Blacky [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Blacky Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Niedersachsen===<br /> ==== Hannover====<br /> Status 3/10<br /> <br /> * Dattel83 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dattel83 Contact me here]<br /> * [[User:Ditto|Ditto]] contact me via [[Special:Emailuser/Ditto|e-mail form]] (If we don't get enough orders maybe we should join with [[GroupSales#Bielefeld|Bielefeld]] or another town close by)<br /> * [[User:LaKoon|LaKoon]]<br /> <br /> === NRW ===<br /> ==== Aachen ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> * Henrik, infos on my [[User:Henrikz|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Henrikz|contact me here]]<br /> * David, infos on my [[User:TechnoFan|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/TechnoFan|contact me here]]<br /> * Stephan, infos on my [[User:chaq|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/chaq|contact me here]]<br /> * Michael, infos on my [[User:knut|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/knut|contact me here]]<br /> <br /> ==== Bielefeld ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> <br /> * David, infos on my [[User:Raven|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Raven|contact me here]]<br /> * Sebastian, infos on my [[User:Seppi|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Seppi|contact me here]]<br /> * Dackel, infos on my [[User:Killerdackel|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Killerdackel|contact me here]]<br /> * Conny<br /> * Arndt, infos on my [[User:Arndot|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Arndot|contact me here]]<br /> <br /> ==== Bocholt ====<br /> ===== (Fachhochschule in Bocholt) =====<br /> * 1 x adslex<br /> * 1 x dg [[Special:Emailuser/dg|contact me here]]<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> === Sachsen-Anhalt ===<br /> ==== Stendal (evtl. Magdeburg) ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * Fabian Off [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fabian2de Contact me here]<br /> <br /> <br /> === Thueringen ===<br /> ==== Weimar ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Fries43]]<br /> <br /> ==== Ilmenau ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:KimKiesel]]<br /> <br /> === Sachsen ===<br /> * Da es das Gerät bei PULSTER für 299€ gibt und man mit einem 10er Paket diesen Preis nicht unterbieten kann, abgesehen davon, dass wir sowieso keine 10 Leute zusammenbekommen, sollte jeder sein Gerät einzeln Bestellen. Lediglich die Versandkosten kann man bei einer 10er Bestellung bei PULSTER sparen, was sich auch nicht lohnt. Die Accessoires muss man bei PULSTER separat bestellen. Ich hoffe, dass das allen genehm ist. --[[User:White gecko|White gecko]] 22:37, 29 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> * Da PULSTER den Preis aus 329€ gehoben hat würde sich ein 10er Paket bei PULSTER wieder lohnen, da man so 30€ pro Gerät sparen würde, wie sieht es mit euch aus? Ich habe mal einen Jabber-Gruppen-Chat openmoko@conference.comiles.eu eingerichtet meldet euch bitte, dass wir bald bestellen können sonst sind wir bei der Lieferung am 25.7. wieder nicht dabei. --[[User:White gecko|White gecko]] 14:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> * Um unsere Sammelbestellung voran zu treiben habe ich einen [http://comiles.eu/~natanael/wordpress/2008/07/10/free-your-phone/ Blogeintrag] verfasst und Robert hat eine [http://comiles.eu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openmoko Mailingliste] eingerichtet. --[[User:White gecko|White gecko]] 00:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Chemnitz ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * Tobias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tobydox Contact me here]<br /> * Michael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/her Contact me here]<br /> ==== Dresden ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * Martin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nodge Contact me here]<br /> <br /> ==== Leipzig ====<br /> Status 6/10<br /> <br /> * Natanael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/white_gecko Contact me here] (+3)<br /> * Micha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Adian Contact me here]<br /> * xbaldauf [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/xbaldauf Contact me here]<br /> <br /> == Hungary == <br /> Good to know:<br /> *discussion here: http://hup.hu/node/54588<br /> *mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-groupsales-hungary<br /> *group ordering coordinator: Dániel Vásárhelyi (see below) - please contact me on any questions<br /> <br /> ordering rules:<br /> * anyone can add and remove him/herself on the list - new names MUST be _appended_ to the list<br /> * please use real name and working e-mail address<br /> * although this list is informative, please extend it _only_ if you are really serious about ordering it<br /> * coordinator contacts everyone interested prior to actual buying<br /> <br /> === Budapest ===<br /> ==== participiants ====<br /> # &lt;s&gt;Ferenc 'Lion' Veres [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kempelen Contact] lion kukac netngine pont hu&lt;/s&gt; ordered<br /> # Laszlo 'rka' Szabo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rka Contact]<br /> # tg [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tg?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Contact]<br /> # Árva T. Mihály - lirul [KUKAC] hixsplit [PONT] hu<br /> # Nyosigomboc - nyos [KUKAC] nyos [PONT] homelinux [PONT] net<br /> # Ludvig Adam - hunludvig [KUKAC] gmail [PONT] com<br /> # [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asdmin?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Dániel 'asd' Vásárhelyi]<br /> # btamas, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/btamas Contact]<br /> # Kovács 'ka87' András, andras [kukac] csevego [pont] net<br /> # pcm, pcm [kukac] freemail [pont] hu<br /> # Geza Piros, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gpiros Contact]<br /> # Áron Preisinger, appa00 [kukac] gmail [pont] com [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/appa Contact]<br /> # pierre286, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pierre286 Contact]<br /> # Hélei Zoltán, heleiz [kukac] gmail<br /> # Radics Áron, raron @ vipmail . hu<br /> # Laszlo Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]<br /> # tr3w [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tr3w Contact]<br /> # Ferenc Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]<br /> # Bolyóczki Zsombor, mogorva kukac tuxworx pont hu<br /> # Sütő Zoltán, suto dot zoltan at t dash online dot hu<br /> # Zsolt Pittmann, pittmann dot zsolt at gmail dot com<br /> # KREKACS Laszlo, laszlo {pont} krekacs {pont} list {kukacka} gmail {pont} com<br /> # Móker Tamás,[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rwind Contact]<br /> # Krisztián Kovács, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Krisztian Contact]<br /> # Tamas Michalik, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dotmind Contact]<br /> # Peter Roosz, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rope Contact]<br /> # Eduard Iacoboaia, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Polaru Contact]<br /> # László Vadász, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lvadasz Contact]<br /> # Attila Lendvai, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/attila.lendvai Contact]<br /> # Thomas Otterbein [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tommi Contact]<br /> # Beáta Müller [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/emm Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== groups ====<br /> <br /> legend:<br /> * yes = I definitely want it (one)<br /> * N = I want this many (2 for two headsets, for example)<br /> * yes? = I prefer having one, but it's not a problem if not<br /> * no = I absolutely don't want to have this item<br /> * ? = It is not important for me, either to have or not (use this instead of 'no' at least at the warranty)<br /> <br /> ===== group #1 - open ! =====<br /> This group places order at nearest distributor on the cheapest price. <br /> You will be contacted before ordering.<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! your name<br /> ! e-mail address<br /> ! want phone? (yes/N)<br /> ! want case? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! want headset? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! prefer 2y warranty? (yes/?)<br /> ! want devboard? (yes/yes?/no)<br /> |-<br /> | tg<br /> | tg x-net hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | Kovács András<br /> | andras at csevego dot net<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | KREKÁCS László<br /> | laszlo.krekacs.list kukac gmail potty com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | ?<br /> | yes?<br /> |-<br /> | Kovács Krisztian<br /> | kroomagnon at gmail dot com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Preisinger Áron<br /> | appa00 kukac gmail pont com<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | ?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | Nyos<br /> | nyos kukac nyos pont homelinux pont net<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> <br /> | Radics Áron<br /> | raronkonektor kukac gmail pont com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | Besenyei Tamas (btamas)<br /> | tamas besenyei net<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Ruskó Péter<br /> | peter kukac rusko pont hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Roósz Péter<br /> | peter kukac roosz pont hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Kárpáti László<br /> | leslie [at] zenevilag [dot] net<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Szabo Laszlo<br /> | rka kukac rka pont hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Lendvai Attila<br /> | attila.lendvai gmail<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | your name<br /> | e-mail address<br /> | want phone?<br /> | want case?<br /> | want headset?<br /> | prefer warranty?<br /> | want devboard?<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===== group #2 - open (ordering at mid-august)! =====<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! your name<br /> ! e-mail address<br /> ! want phone? (yes/N)<br /> ! want case? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! want headset? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! prefer 2y warranty? (yes/?)<br /> ! want devboard? (yes/yes?/no)<br /> |-<br /> | Árva T. Mihály<br /> | lirul at hixsplit dot hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Hélei Zoltán<br /> | heleiz [at] gmail [dot] com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | 2<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Muller Beata<br /> | beata [dot] muller [at] gmail [dot] com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Móker Tamás<br /> | rwind [at] apacheweb [dot] hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Piros Geza<br /> | geza [dot] piros [at] gmail [dot] com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | Otterbein Thomas<br /> | tommi [at] t-online [dot] hu<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | tr3w<br /> | tr3w at freemail<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Sütő Zoltán<br /> | suto [dot] zoltan [at] t [dash] online [dot] hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Vadász László<br /> | laszlo pont vadasz kukac yahoo pont com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes?<br /> |-<br /> | Dániel Vásárhelyi<br /> | asdmin at gmail.com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | your name<br /> | e-mail address<br /> | want phone?<br /> | want case?<br /> | want headset?<br /> | prefer warranty?<br /> | want devboard?<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Kecskemét ===<br /> Dániel Vásárhelyi handles transportation to Kecskemét, therefore it is not necessary to collect 10 all pieces here.<br /> <br /> == India ==<br /> === Bangalore ===<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sh4r4d sharad]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gadiyar Anand Gadiyar]<br /> * Ankur Arora ''terminus [at] gmail [dot] com''<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kunaldeo Kunal Deo]<br /> * Rishavnath rishavnath@gmail.com<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/libin_v Libin Varghese] (Waiting for the GSM 900 Band)<br /> <br /> === Delhi/NCR ===<br /> Status 2/10<br /> * Sameer Mohamed Thahir [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sameerthahir Contact]<br /> * Pratul Kalia (lut4rp) ''pratulkalia [at] gmail [dot] com''<br /> <br /> === Mumbai [Bombay] ===<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Saurabh Saurabh]<br /> <br /> == Ireland ==<br /> === Dublin ===<br /> To register your interest for the Dublin shipment please post a comment on this [http://patrickoconnor.ie/blog/2008/07/01/openmoko-freerunner-limited-release/ blog post] and enter your details below.<br /> <br /> Status 10/10<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/patchrick Patchrick]<br /> * Karl O'Dwyer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Karl.odwyer Contact Me Here]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonic Sonic]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/s4dd PaulD]<br /> * BOFH [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BOFH, 1xPhone, 1x<br /> DBoard, 1x Spares Pack {2xBatt's and case} =&gt; Email Here]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/onan Onan]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ankhi ankhi] - 1x Phone, 1x Spares Pack<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/seanodonnell seanodonnell]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kernelkhertz Mark R]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/HerraBRE Bjarni R. Einarsson] - 1x phone, 1x dboard<br /> <br /> == Italy == <br /> For more informations and to organize groups, visit the<br /> *[http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''''Italian Freerunner Group Sales Google Group'''''] (ML/Web/Feeds) ([mailto:freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com]).<br /> <br /> '''BUT please keep adding your name and email to the list below'''<br /> <br /> If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the &quot;most requested city&quot;, and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the &quot;double-shipping&quot;. ([http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/10937/focus=10981 Read here for reference]).<br /> <br /> === Toscana ===<br /> ==== Firenze (e dintorni) ====<br /> Status 14/10<br /> <br /> '''''[[GroupSales/Firenze|Wiki organizzativo]]'''''<br /> <br /> * [[User:Treviño|Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]] - [http://blog.3v1n0.net/contatti-trevino/ Contacts here]<br /> * [[User:Niccolo|Niccolo Rigacci]] - ''niccolo [AT] rigacci.org''<br /> * [[User:BiggMatt|Mattia Gentile]] - ''biggmatt@hotmail.it''<br /> * [[User:Sugacapra|Sugacapra]] - ''alessio.chemeri [AT] gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:tom_morello|Carlo Ascani (Morello)]] - ''carlo.ratm [AT] gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:marrano|Stefano Burchietti (Marrano)]] - ''stefano [AT] nontelodiromai.it''<br /> * [[User:Geli86|Matteo Gelimeri X 2 (Imola - Bologna)]] - ''gelimatteo [AT] gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:dcoppa|David Coppa (Borgo a Buggiano, Pistoia)]] - ''dcoppa@gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:Panthack|Dario Panthack Pantani (Pontedera - Pisa)]] - ''panthack2 [AT] tiscali.it''<br /> * [[User:alfatangoxt|Baraglia michele (alfatangoxt)(Vecchiano - Pisa)]] - ( mail ''[mailto:barmike1@tin.it]'') ( msn - ''alfatangoxt@hotmail.it'')<br /> * Francesco Guidi (perino)<br /> * Daniele Andreoli<br /> <br /> Rimossi:<br /> * [[User:pcav|Paolo Cavallini]] - ''cavallini [AT] faunalia.it''<br /> * Elisa ''[mailto:lab@kkk.it lab@kkk.it]'' (Empoli)<br /> <br /> === Lombardia ===<br /> <br /> ==== Milano e dintorni ====<br /> &lt;!--[[GroupSales_Milano_e_dintorni|Organizzazione preliminare]] DEPRECATA lì 11 Maggio 2008.--&gt;<br /> <br /> Per l'organizzazione preliminare interagire sul [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''].<br /> <br /> Ad ogni modo, per stabilire le precedenze nella prenotazione, '''aggiungetevi nella lista qui sotto'''<br /> &lt;!--<br /> ----<br /> <br /> N.B.: Stiamo congelando il primo gruppo. Chi non confermerà la sua intenzione di acquisto sul '''[[GroupSales/Milano|wiki organizzativo]] entro le 00:00 del 3 luglio''', rientrerà automaticamente nel gruppo successivo (da organizzare). Aggiungersi qui sotto '''solo se non interessati al primo gruppo d'acquisto'''.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> --&gt;<br /> <br /> Per il primo gruppo d'acquisto già partito: '''[[GroupSales/Milano|wiki organizzativo]]'''<br /> <br /> ===== Lista degli interessati =====<br /> Numero persone interessate: '''5'''<br /> <br /> Numero FreeRunner: '''5'''<br /> <br /> *'''1-10'''<br /> *# Maxxer [mailto:maxxer@yetopen.it maxxer@yetopen.it] (Lecco)&lt;!--RIMANDATO--&gt;<br /> *# Francesco Leserri - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Francy Contacts here] (Vimercate, MI)<br /> *# [[User:Pietrao| Pietro Isotti]] - [mailto:isottipietro@gmail.com isottipietro@gmail.com]<br /> *# [[User:ndr| Andrea Vago]] - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ndr Contacts here] (Rho, MI)<br /> *# [[User:Kingman| Mattia Borsani]] - [mailto:mattiaborsa3@msn.com mattiaborsa3@msn.com] (Parabiago, MI)<br /> &lt;!--<br /> *'''11-20''' --&gt;<br /> &lt;!--<br /> *'''21-30''' --&gt;<br /> <br /> === Piemonte ===<br /> ==== Torino (and province) ====<br /> Status 10/10<br /> <br /> Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Torino)<br /> <br /> Precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale&lt;br&gt;<br /> *'''Gruppo 1''' (prime persone a fare l'ordine):&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Claudio Carnino (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Alessandro Degano (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Enrico Pigozzi (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here]&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Riccardo Issoglio (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here]&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )&lt;br&gt;<br /> 2 x Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br /> *'''Gruppo 2''' (coloro che non ci stanno nel primo gruppo o che vogliono aspettare che il primo gruppo abbia ricevuto il telefono):&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Marco Forasacco (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> ...&lt;br&gt;<br /> (aggiungersi chi è nuovo)&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> -------------------------------------<br /> LISTA ORIGINALE (24/05/08 14:48):<br /> * Claudio Carnino &lt;br/&gt; (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)<br /> * Alessandro Degano &lt;br/&gt; (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)<br /> * Enrico Pigozzi &lt;br/&gt; (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)<br /> * Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here]<br /> * Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)<br /> * Riccardo Issoglio &lt;br/&gt; (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)<br /> * Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here]<br /> * Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )<br /> * Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!<br /> * Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com )<br /> * Marco Forasacco &lt;br/&gt; (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)<br /> --------------------------------------<br /> <br /> === Trentino-Alto Adige ===<br /> ==== Trento ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> <br /> * Vincenzo D'Andrea (vincenzo.dandrea AT gmail DOT com) &lt;br/&gt; (also Verona is OK - and I can carry others' phone VR to TN or viceversa)<br /> * Emanuele Olivetti (emanuele CHIOCCIOLA relativita PUNTO com)<br /> * Marco Ciampa (ciampix (*) libero (*) it)<br /> * Avi Arrigo (aviarrigo AT gmail DOT com)(also Milano is OK)<br /> <br /> === Friuli Venezia Giulia ===<br /> ==== Trieste ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * dorje [mailto:dorje@libero.it dorje@libero.it] - [[User:dorje|dorje]]<br /> <br /> === Veneto ===<br /> <br /> Status: 15/20<br /> <br /> ==== Padova ====<br /> <br /> * Andrea [mailto:nick(at)linux.it nick(at)linux.it ] <br /> <br /> ==== Treviso ====<br /> <br /> * Dario [mailto:aliasbrain@gmail.com aliasbrain(at)gmail.com] - [[User:Rastafan|Rastafan]] &lt;br /&gt;one, maybe two.<br /> <br /> * Pedro [mailto:paguilar@junkerhq.net paguilar(at)junkerhq.net] - [[User:Paguilar|Paguilar]] &lt;br/&gt;Also Padova and Vicenza are ok.<br /> <br /> * mr [mailto:maurizio.rottin@gmail.com maurizio.rottin a-t gmail d-o-t com] - [[User:Mr|Mr]] &lt;br/&gt;one for sure, maybe two<br /> <br /> ==== Venezia ====<br /> <br /> * Tommaso [mailto:tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com] - [[User:Tobarello|Tobarello]] &lt;br /&gt;Also Padova, Vicenza &amp; Trento are ok.<br /> <br /> ==== Verona ====<br /> <br /> * Persegat [mailto:persegat@alice.it persegat@alice.it] - [[User:Pecce|Pecce]]<br /> * Sylar91 [mailto:sylar1991@gmail.com sylar1991@gmail.com] - [[User:Sylar91|Sylar91]]<br /> * Marco Franceschetti - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vonfritz Contacts here]<br /> * AleksFalcone [mailto:aleks.falcone@gmail.com aleks.falcone@gmail.com] - [[User:AleksFalcone|AleksFalcone]]<br /> * Roberto Previdi [mailto:hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com] - [[User:hariseldon78|hariseldon78]] (also Milano is ok)<br /> <br /> ==== Vicenza ====<br /> <br /> * Michele [mailto:michele@cooperativabiosphaera.it michele(at)cooperativabiosphaera.it] - &lt;br /&gt;Also Padova is okay.<br /> <br /> * Paolo [mailto:paolo.sartore@gmail.com paolo.sartore(at)gmail.com]&lt;br /&gt; Also Padova is okay.<br /> <br /> * Renato [mailto:wasgiventofly@gmail.com wasgiventofly AT gmail DOT com]&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> * Sandro [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vigerty contact me here]&lt;br /&gt; Also Padova is okay.<br /> <br /> * Marco [mailto:marco.napetti@linux.it marco.napetti(at)linux.it]&lt;br /&gt; Also Padova and Verona are ok.<br /> <br /> * Alessandro [mailto:bianco@3ska.com bianco@3ska.com]&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> === Emilia Romagna ===<br /> Status : 5/10<br /> <br /> La proposta, accolta da chi segue il google group, e' di attendere la formalizzazione dell'offerta del rivenditore italiano. Se tutto va bene, avremo il freerunner + gadgets i primi di settembre, con 2 anni di garanzia e prezzo allettante.<br /> Per organizzazione: [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales/browse_thread/thread/b872bf8872180d02?hl=it Emilia Romagna - Gruppo d'acquisto] (Delian)<br /> <br /> ==== Parma ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Delian|Marco Albanese]] [mailto:delian2@gmail.com delian2@gmail.com] For Me, it's ok for the decentralized shipment ( Milano for example :) ).<br /> <br /> * [[User:Hachreak|Leonardo Rossi]] ssj3gokou AT libero Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.<br /> <br /> ==== Ravenna ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...). ( se ti vanno bene ambo le citta' basta dirlo tra parentesi. Cosi', si fa confusione :) )<br /> <br /> ==== Bologna ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:nixy_999|Lorenzo]] nixy_999 AT yahoo Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.<br /> * vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...).<br /> * [[User:lord.of.the.dimm|Mauro]] lord.of.the.dimm AT gmail DOT com decentralized shipping: OK.<br /> <br /> === Puglia ===<br /> ==== Lecce ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Morpheus90|Morpheus90]] [mailto:ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com]<br /> * [[User:Italyanker|italyanker]] [mailto:italyanker@gmail.com italyanker@gmail.com]<br /> <br /> ==== Bari ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Fradeve11|Fradeve11]] [mailto:fradeve@ubuntu-it.org fradeve@ubuntu-it.org]<br /> <br /> ==== Taranto ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:SlackMass|SlackMass]] [mailto:rsvmass@tiscali.it rsvmass@tiscali.it]<br /> <br /> === Abruzzo ===<br /> ==== Pescara ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * ZarZ [mailto:zarz25@gmail.com zarz25@gmail.com]<br /> <br /> === Campania ===<br /> ==== Caserta (and province) ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * fenoxxx [mailto:fenoxxx@gmail.com] - Aversa<br /> <br /> === Lazio ===<br /> ==== Roma ====<br /> Status 9/10<br /> <br /> Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Roma)<br /> <br /> La precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> Gruppo 1 (incompleto):&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> * Hire X 2 [mailto:hiretto@gmail.com hiretto@gmail.com] (Roma)<br /> * Darkbasic X 1 [mailto:darkbasic4(at)gmail darkbasic4(at)gmail] (Ancona)<br /> * zione X 1 [mailto:alessio.filipponio@gmail.com alessio.filipponio@gmail.com](Roma)<br /> * AntoMan X 1 [mailto:obe_65@yahoo.it AntoMan](Roma)<br /> * Tempix X 1 [mailto:tempix11@gmail.com tempix11@gmail.com] (Ancona)<br /> * lynx1673 X1 [mailto: acarfi at yahoo dot com] - lynx sei di Roma?<br /> * zullinux X1 [mailto: francesco dot zuliani at gmail dot com] (Roma)<br /> * Lorenzo90 x1 [mailto:lorenzo.catalucci@gmail.com lorenzo.catalucci@gmail.com] (Terni)<br /> <br /> === Liguria ===<br /> ==== Genova ====<br /> Status 5/10<br /> <br /> * Luca Maranzano X 1 (liuk AT linux DOT it) [[User:liuk|liuk]]<br /> * Lorenzo Fornara X 1 (fw1987 AT hotmail DOT it)<br /> * Stefano Cutelle' X 1 (staff@ascservices.it) [[User:ascservices|ascservices]]<br /> * Andrea De Gaetano X 1 (dega1999 AT gmail DOT com) [[User:Dega1999|Dega1999]]<br /> * Salvo Schiavone X 1 (salvoschiavone AT gmail DOT com [[User:Salvador|Salvador]]<br /> <br /> === Sicilia ===<br /> ==== Palermo ====<br /> Status 10/10<br /> <br /> * Giorgio Marciano' X 1 [mailto:giorgio.marciano@email.it giorgio]<br /> * Roberto Calandra X 1 [mailto:isokazi@yahoo.it roberto]<br /> * Vincenzo Moreno Luna X 7 [mailto:ciop85plus@hotmail.com vincenzo]<br /> * Daniele Lupo X 1 [mailto:danwolf80@libero.it daniele]<br /> <br /> ==== Messina ====<br /> Status 6/10<br /> <br /> * Melug X 6 [mailto:suuuper@messinalug.org MeLug]<br /> <br /> === Calabria ===<br /> Status 3/10<br /> <br /> ==== Catanzaro ====<br /> * Carlo Mangani X 1 [mailto:carlo.mangani@gmail.com carlo.mangani@gmail.com] - Lamezia Terme<br /> <br /> ==== Cosenza ====<br /> * Francesco Portus X 1 [mailto:portusgraphics@gmail.com portusgraphics@gmail.com] - Bisignano (Cosenza)<br /> * Silvio Pierro X 1 [mailto:perplesso82@gmail.com perplesso82] - Montalto Uffugo (Cosenza)<br /> <br /> === Sardegna ===<br /> ==== Cagliari ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * Panta x 1 [[User:Panta]]<br /> Viaggio per tutta l'Isola, per cui, nel caso in cui arrivassimo a 10 utenti...<br /> <br /> == Lithuania ==<br /> === Vilnius ===<br /> Status 8/10<br /> * Laurynas Ruškys 7 phones + 2 boards [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crebain Contact me here]<br /> * 1 x Neo FreeRunner, [[Special:Emailuser/Sirex|Mantas Zimnickas]].<br /> <br /> == Macedonia ==<br /> === Skopje ===<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * Kristijan Krsteski 1/10 &lt;br /&gt; [[User:neutrino]] &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:kristijan.krsteski@gmail.com]<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == México ==<br /> === Ciudad de México ===<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * Kozapatista [[Special:Emailuser/User:kozapatista|Contact]]<br /> * w4r10 (Pulketo) &lt;br /&gt; [[User:w4r10]] [[Special:Emailuser/w4r10|Mario Alberto]]<br /> <br /> === Ciudad Victoria ===<br /> Status 3/10<br /> <br /> * 3x Gregorio Toscano [mailto:gtoscano@cinvestav.mx email]<br /> <br /> == [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands The Netherlands] ==<br /> (Discuss this group sale on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands talk page])<br /> <br /> === Special notice ===<br /> After discussion on the talk page, a number of us have decided to place an individual order at Pulster.eu, because they are cheaper than the group sale discount, and they deliver a receipt with VAT.&lt;br /&gt;<br /> I'd advise the people on this group sale-list to do the same. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> You can indeed place a group order at Pulster.eu, but that won't lower the price, and would only add extra shipping costs. (from the person who made the group-order to the individual members of the group) [[User:Madjo|MadJo]] 11:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> * Marijn Kruisselbrink 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mkruisselbrink|Contact]]<br /> * Andy Powell 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ScaredyCat|Contact]]<br /> * Arjan Veenstra 1/10 [[User:AVee]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:AVee|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Gelderland ===<br /> <br /> ==== Nijmegen ====<br /> * [[User:Blalien|Danny Bouwman]] (Ewijk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Blalien|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Nijkerk ====<br /> * [[User:Nicolas|Nico Veenkamp]] (Nijkerk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Nicolas|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Nijmegen ====<br /> * [[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] (Nijmegen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:A.dre|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Groningen ===<br /> <br /> ==== Haren ====<br /> * [[User:akrabbe|Albert Krabbe]] (Haren 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:akrabbe|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Limburg ===<br /> <br /> ==== Griendtsveen ====<br /> * [[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] (Griendtsveen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:KenSentMe|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Noord-Brabant ===<br /> <br /> ==== Eindhoven ====<br /> * Christ van Willegen 1 [[User:ChristW]]<br /> * Jan van Nijnatten 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Javany|Contact]]<br /> * Atilla Filiz 1 + debug board[[Special:Emailuser/User:Atilla|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Noord Holland ===<br /> <br /> ==== Amsterdam ====<br /> * Michel van Horssen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mivaho|Contact]]<br /> * Frank Richter 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:res|Contact]]<br /> * Eric Smith 1/10 [[User:Eric Smith]]<br /> * Buddy Baars 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Budster|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Beverwijk ====<br /> * Theo Martens 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:T_M|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Bussum ====<br /> * Remco van Zuijlen 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:Remco|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Overijssel ===<br /> <br /> ==== Deventer ====<br /> * Jan de Haan 1/10 [[User:Jan de Haan]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:Jan de Haan|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Enschede ====<br /> * Peter Hageman 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:PingPong|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Hengelo ====<br /> * Sander Hoentjen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Tjikkun|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Zwolle ====<br /> * [[User:Boudewijn]] 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Boudewijn|Contact]]: mail me via mailinglist/mailtouser. Ordered via [http://www.pulster.de pulster!]<br /> <br /> === Zuid-Holland ===<br /> <br /> ==== Rijswijk ====<br /> * Fernando Martins 1x [[User:fmartins]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:fmartins|Contact]]<br /> * Igor 1x [[User:igorn]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:igorn|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Zoetermeer ====<br /> * S.Rademaker 1x [[User:S.rademaker]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:S.rademaker|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Rotterdam ====<br /> * Reinout van Schouwen [[User:reinouts]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:reinouts|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Utrecht ===<br /> <br /> ==== Utrecht ====<br /> * Eric Spierings 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ericsp|Contact]]<br /> * Peter van de Werken 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:PWerken|Contact]]<br /> * Kenny van Wanrooij 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:kenneth|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Status ===<br /> 29/30<br /> <br /> == New Zealand ==<br /> ===Networks===<br /> As Telecom are using the 850MHz network for their GSM network, while Vodafone and northelia (possibly aka orcon) are using 900/1800MHz, please state which version you want. This may need more research, I'm not 100%; see [http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml] for more info&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Shipping===<br /> Based on the Openmoko direct store, shipping is US$258.05 (US$25.81/phone)<br /> <br /> Someone on the community list suggested using [http://www.myus.com], a shipping company that will re-post items overseas at decent rates. They claim US$66 for a 3kg package, or NZ$8 per phone. Of course, the cost of shipping the phone from OM to the shipping company has to be added in as well.<br /> <br /> ===Purchase cost===<br /> As of 2008-07-03 (exchange rate 0.7505), US$369 is worth NZ$492 and US$25.81 is worth NZ$34.39<br /> <br /> ===Duty/taxes/other charges===<br /> import duty on mobile phones is 0%[http://www.customs.govt.nz/importers/Private+Importers/Customs+Charges.htm], and GST is 12.5% so the GST added to each phone will be NZ$65.80; 12.5% * (492 + 34.39), 'cause we pay GST on postage too...<br /> <br /> You'll also need to add on disbursement fees etc. If it's UPS it's not too bad (~NZ$40) if it comes through NZ Post then it can be ~NZ$120.<br /> <br /> So, the total cost of a Freerunner as part of a 10 pack, will be:&lt;br&gt;<br /> 492 + 34.39 + 65.80 = NZ$592.19 + NZ$4 = '''~NZ$596'''<br /> <br /> + any possible charges to get it posted elsewhere in New Zealand.<br /> <br /> Also, for the person buying, don't forget that there is likely charges from VISA for foreign exchange. ASB is 2.1% of the purchase price which will add ~$12.50 ea. to the price.<br /> <br /> '''[http://nicegear.co.nz nicegear]''' may be bringing some in depending on pricing from OpenMoko.<br /> <br /> === Auckland ===<br /> ==== [[Auckland group sales|Auckland]] ====<br /> Status:10 phones requested, the required minimum (10 phones) is reached, but more buyers are still welcome to join.&lt;br&gt;<br /> 13/20&lt;br&gt;<br /> =====Intermediary=====<br /> Glen ogilvie made a suggestion, that we could use a company (e.g. someone's employer, who are likely to have easily found contact details and thus be trustworthy) to buy the phones on our behalf (after we'd paid for them), and then deliver them to us. &lt;br&gt;<br /> any volunteers? do any of you have understanding bosses/your own company that could help out here?&lt;br&gt;<br /> Dave Lane: I think '''[http://egressive.com Egressive]''' would be willing to act as an intermediary. Contact me to discuss it...&lt;br/&gt;<br /> <br /> *Paul Sandkuijl [[User:Edictor]]<br /> Having contacted all the below people who have said they were interested, we only got 6 emails back from people. We need 4 more and we can put in our order. Please [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edictor Contact me here] so that we can get this order underway...<br /> <br /> === Purchaser List ===<br /> *Rob Paulson [[User:Myfanwy]] [mailto:robin.paulson@gmail.com] 900MHz<br /> **i'm quite happy to organise the purchase, if no-one has any objections. to ease any worries about me running off with the money, we could use an escrow service such as [http://safetrader.co.nz], or paypal. or does anyone have any other ideas?<br /> *Simon Wells [[User:Swel024]] 900MHz<br /> *Jeremy List [[User:Jeremy-list]] mailto:quick.dudley@gmail.com (Wellington, not Auckland, will pay for courier) 900MHz<br /> *David Murrell [[User:Viddy]] - [mailto:dmurrell@waikato.ac.nz] I'm in Hamilton, either courier, or I'll drive up :) 900MHz<br /> *Jeremy Gray [[User:Bogdan237]] [mailto:jgra163@ec.auckland.ac.nz] Auckland, 900MHz<br /> *Paul Roe [[User:Par08]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Par08 contact me here] Christchurch, 2 x 900MHz<br /> *Dave Lane [[User:dangerpossum]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dangerpossum contact] Christchurch, 1 x 900MHz + 1800MHz GSM<br /> *Paul Hunkin [[User:paulhunkin]] [mailto:pwh4@cs.waikato.ac.nz Contact] Hamilton (I'll pay for a courier), 1 x 900MHz.<br /> *Paul Sandkuijl [[User:Edictor]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edictor Contact me here] Napier (I'll pay for postage to Napier from Auckland) and I also suggest a PayPal/Safetrader similar service, 1 Vodafone compatible 900/1800MHz.<br /> *Brent Wood [[User:pcreso]] [mailto:pcreso@pcreso.com Email] Wellington. Will pay courier to Wgtn. 1x Vodafone compatible 900/1800Mhz unit<br /> *Glen Ogilvie [[User:Nelg]] [mailto:nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz Email] Auckland, 1x Vodafone compatible 900Mhz.<br /> *Jesse Waas [[User:JTAG]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JTAG contact] Christchurch, 1 x 900MHz + 1800MHz GSM<br /> **Looks like there are a few of us in Christchurch now - is it worth consolidating on this leg too?<br /> **I have used [http://www.myus.com] with success before - though I no longer have an account...<br /> <br /> === Wellington ===<br /> ==== [[Wellington group sales|Wellington]] ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> *Andrew Stephen [[User:lizardb0y]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lizardb0y email me] Wellington, 1 x 900/1800Mhz GSM Vodafone compatible.<br /> <br /> == Norway ==<br /> === Nordland ===<br /> ==== Bodø ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:AlecTBM|Alexander Frøyseth]] [mailto:alexander.froyseth@gmail.com alexander.froyseth@gmail.com]<br /> * Ole Marius<br /> * Stian Vading<br /> * [[User:Kolbjorn.Dahle|Kolbjorn Dahle]][mailto:kolbjorn@dahlenett.org]<br /> <br /> === Sør-Trøndelag ===<br /> ==== Trondheim ====<br /> Status 16/20<br /> <br /> *[[User:andy000|Andreas Kalvå]] [mailto:andy@samfundet.no andy@samfundet.no]<br /> Send mail om du er interessert.<br /> <br /> === Østlandet ===<br /> ==== Oslo, Akershus, Buskerud, Vestfold ====<br /> Status: 30/?? &lt;br/&gt;<br /> 30/30 er bestilt via [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] &lt;br/&gt;<br /> ingen har påtatt seg å bestille inn flere, men det er etterspørsel etter fler.<br /> <br /> * [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] [mailto:heikkis@matnat.uio.no] &lt;br/&gt; (30/30) FULT! Ta likevel kontakt for veiledning. <br /> * [[User:StianEllingsen|Stian Ellingsen]]<br /> <br /> ==== Østfold ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:MrBlonde|Petter Nygård]] [mailto:pettnyg@frisurf.no] &lt;br /&gt;Interessert? -&gt; Mail meg....<br /> * Eirik Lavik<br /> <br /> === Vestlandet ===<br /> ==== Bergen ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:alastairj|Alastair Jenkins]] [mailto:alastair.jenkins@gfi.uib.no]<br /> <br /> == Philippines ==<br /> band: [http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_ph.shtml GSM 900/1800, 3G 2100]<br /> <br /> status:[http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner GSM 900 variant sold out], new stocks due July 25, 2008<br /> <br /> buyer list (1/10):<br /> * [[User:rickynite|Ricky Nite]] [mailto:ricky.nite@gmail.com]: 1 [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Neo FreeRunner], 1 [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/dboard DBoard], 1 [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/spares-pack Spares pack]<br /> <br /> see: [http://archives.free.net.ph/thread/20080711.040657.c6d7a53b.en.html#20080711.040657.c6d7a53b PLUG thread]<br /> <br /> == Poland ==<br /> <br /> * Special group buy site: http://www.kumulator.pl/show/12 (in edition moment: 9/10)<br /> <br /> == Portugal ==<br /> Portuguese (15/20) who are associates of ANSOL, please consider joining [[TeamANSOL]] (currently 5/10 members).<br /> <br /> Shop is open (currently only 850MHz version available. We want 900MHz): Shipping cost to Portugal for 10-pack: $219.07, ~14 EUR per device.<br /> <br /> We also need to have a cost estimation for Portuguese customs (like the Australians did). 20% sales tax + customs tax is to be expected both for individual or bulk sales, because the price is quite high. But freedom is priceless :)<br /> <br /> [[User:Ruben|Ruben Mendes]] is coordinating the group buy. If you are interested get in touch with him.<br /> <br /> === Aveiro ===<br /> ==== Aveiro ====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * 2 x [[User:Ruben|Ruben Mendes]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * Tiago Brites<br /> * Marcos Monteiro<br /> <br /> === Lisboa ===<br /> ==== Lisboa ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Danielblues Daniel Branco]<br /> * [[User:Pedrosilva|Pedro Silva]]<br /> * Ricardo Sousa ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * [[User:RuiSeabra|Rui Seabra]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasco Vasco Névoa]<br /> * [[User:Jcanelas|José Canelas]]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Brunus Bruno Valentim]<br /> * José Esteves ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lothar_m Bruno Lopes]<br /> <br /> === Porto ===<br /> ==== Porto ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:villate|Jaime Villate]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> <br /> == Sweden ==<br /> We have a google group for discussion about a possible Swedish group order: freerunner-sverige@googlegroups.com, see [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-sverige Svensk Gruppbeställning av Freerunner]. Please join the discussion!<br /> <br /> If insufficient number of people, orders could be merged and remailed perhaps.<br /> <br /> Domestic remailing with Posten as A-class mail of a letter (criteria: length+width+height max 900 mm) weighing max 1 kg, without insurance should [http://www.posten.se/foretag/vara_tjanster/postageguide/postguideLetterDom.jspv cost 44 SEK]. 50 SEK more for insurance.<br /> <br /> If we end up with more than one 10-pack in Sweden, my guess is that it would probably pay to order everything in one shipment to one address in Sweden to save on the international shipping, and then remail domestically.<br /> <br /> === Götaland ===<br /> ==== Göteborg ====<br /> <br /> * [[User:Fwendt|Fredrik Wendt]] [[Special:Emailuser/Fwendt|Contact]]/wendt.se<br /> <br /> ==== Malmö ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * Lars Jarlvik &lt;br /&gt; mailto:lars@larsfactory.se<br /> <br /> === Svealand ===<br /> ==== Stockholm ====<br /> Status : 6/10<br /> <br /> * Adam Johansson &lt;br /&gt; <br /> * Lowe Schmidt &lt;br /&gt; mailto:lowe.schmidt@gmail.com<br /> * Johan Erlands &lt;br /&gt; mailto:johan.erlands@gmail.com<br /> * [[User:Joel | Joel Metelius ]] [[Special:Emailuser/Joel | (contact)]] 1 phone + 1 debug (if possible)<br /> * Peter Wihlner &lt;br /&gt; mailto:info@faktor.nu<br /> <br /> ==== Västerås ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> * Jörgen Lidholm, could join the Falun/Borlänge or Stockholm group &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:jorgen.lidholm@gmail.com]<br /> * John Törnblom, can also join the Stockholm group &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:f04jto@student.lth.se]<br /> <br /> === Norrland ===<br /> ==== Umeå ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Benjamin|Benjamin]] [[Special:Emailuser/Benjamin|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Luleå ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:mh|mh]] 1 unit, mailto:mh@rcc.se If not up to 10 by launch. i'd join any group and either pick it up or have it remailed nationally<br /> <br /> == Switzerland ==<br /> <br /> 1x 10 Pack ordered from pulster for the group Zürich! Read more below --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 17:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''???''' should organize the 3 x 10pack for Zürich &lt;br /&gt;<br /> Luca Capello could organize the 10pack for Geneva. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> Mathieu will organisze the 2 x 10pack for Lausanne EPFL CH-fr &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> All payment in advance (a 10pack will cost approx 3'800 USD). &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> '''Probably we will organize shippings, if we cannot all move to Zürich/Genève/Lausanne to get our Neo.'''<br /> <br /> ''François Bianco is trying to create a new group of 10 (will be mostly for French Switzerland). -&gt; The group moved to the EPFL group, which will try to reach 20 persons. --[[User:Fbianco|Fbianco]] 11:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)''&lt;br /&gt;<br /> ''Gabriel Ambuehl would volunteer to order the initial 10pack. &lt;- still accurate ? -&gt; Gabriel will not organize the 10packs for Zürich due to not being in Switzerland. We are in contact to find a solution so please wait until we know what to do. Order in Germany (each for himself or as a group, not clear yet) could be as cheap as a 10pack. We are in contact with pulster.de and will be contacted form pulster about the price. We will contact you guys in the Zürich list as soon as we know more --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 10:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)''&lt;br /&gt;<br /> ''Alexandre Ghisoli will not organize the second 10pack, since the order moved in the Lucca's group.'' &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> === Customs and Postage ===<br /> I called the [http://www.ezv.admin.ch/index.html?lang=en Swiss Federal Customs Administration] and it seems that we only need to pay VAT (7.6%) and the UPS taxes as well (since the parcel will be sent through UPS). Thus I called [http://www.ups.com/content/ch/en/contact/ UPS] and it seems that UPS directly pays the VAT instead of the customer, then asking the customer for refund (plus a fixed tax of EUR13.00). So I think the following per-phone cost for a Swiss bulk order should be a good estimate.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> |'''Bulk Order'''<br /> |'''USD'''<br /> |'''CHF'''<br /> |-<br /> |Customs Value (Cval)<br /> |3690.00<br /> |3837.60<br /> |-<br /> |Postage<br /> |160.00<br /> |166.40<br /> |-<br /> |Value of Taxable Importation (VoTI) = Cval+Postage<br /> |3850.00<br /> |4004.00<br /> |-<br /> |VAT = 7.6% of VoTI<br /> |292.60<br /> |304.30<br /> |-<br /> |UPS fixed tax (EUR13.00)<br /> |20.00<br /> |20.80<br /> |-<br /> |Total Cost<br /> |4162.60<br /> |4329.10<br /> |-<br /> |'''Per Person'''<br /> |'''416.26'''<br /> |'''432.91'''<br /> |}<br /> <br /> Figures accurate as of 4th Jun 2008 from [http://www.ubs.com/1/e/index/bcqv/calculator.html UBS]: 1EUR = 1.54USD and 1USD = 1.04CHF.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ==== Shipping ====<br /> If we would ship Neos, here is the Swiss PostPac prices :<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> ! Description<br /> ! Size [cm]<br /> ! Price CHF TTC<br /> |-<br /> | Size 1<br /> | 22.9 x 14.7 x 9.9<br /> | 2.20<br /> |-<br /> | Size 2<br /> | 31.5 x 22.5 x 12.5<br /> | 2.40<br /> |-<br /> | Shipping Priority<br /> | up to 2Kg<br /> | 8.-<br /> |-<br /> | Shipping Economy<br /> | up to 2Kg<br /> | 6.-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> Steve posted informations about boxes that will be out with Neo :<br /> <br /> * 10 pack : 435mm x 371mm x 119mm, approx 3kg, UPS will charge 160USD (need to be verified)<br /> * Individual pack : 178mm x 104mm x 84mm, 237 grams<br /> <br /> So size 1 will fit ! Local delivery in Switzerland will cost 8.20 for Economy or 10.20 Priority.<br /> <br /> ==== Zurich ====<br /> <br /> ===== Pulster.de order (already ordered and on their way!) =====<br /> I organized already an order from Pulster.de due to the best conditions:<br /> * 299 Euro - 19% German sales tax = 249 Euro<br /> * 249 Euro + 7,6% Swiss sales tax<br /> * evtl. some border taxes<br /> * no shipping costs! (pulster sends for free)<br /> * 2 Years warranty<br /> <br /> The conditions to get a device from me:<br /> * As soon as I have them i will contact you<br /> * You pick up your device in Winterthur<br /> * You pay me cash (you will not get a device before I have the money in my hands)<br /> * You bring the correct amount of money (I can't give return)<br /> * I will _not_ raise the price for my profit. You pay what I pay<br /> <br /> So add yourself to the list here if you want one:&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Status : 10/10 -&gt; full &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Esra Kummer (3 Geräte!) (Winterthur)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tuxfux.ch Contact]<br /> * Simon Wenner (Schaffhausen)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nowic Contact]<br /> * Markus Huggler (Winterthur)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]<br /> * Simon Schreiber (Zurich) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]<br /> * Hannes Wyss (Zurich) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]<br /> * Felix Rabe (Basel/Romanshorn) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Felixrabe Contact]<br /> * Carlos Diener (Winterthur) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Emonkey Contact]<br /> * Walter Sutter (Winterthur) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Seraphim Contact]<br /> <br /> Status : 11/30 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''Contact person who order the 10Pack : ??'''<br /> <br /> * Andre Timmermann &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]<br /> * Pascal Weller &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]<br /> * Nick Zbinden (Luzern)&lt;br /&gt; [mailto:nickik@gmx.ch] oder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nickik Contact]<br /> * Marcel Lütolf (Luzern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/NeRo Contact]<br /> * Mirko Klingauf &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/RealAtaman Contact]<br /> * Martin Kos &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KoS Contact]<br /> * Joerg Maeder (Opfikon) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/goergel Contact]<br /> * Philipp Hug (St. Gallen) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Philipphug Contact]<br /> * Tropechopf (Luzern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tropechopf Contact]<br /> * Alex Ingold (Interlaken)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ingoldey Contact]<br /> * Alex Aeschlimann (Bern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alexae Contact]<br /> <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Basel-Stadt ====<br /> <br /> ===== Pulster.de order (Adrian Rudin) already ordered =====<br /> I will organize one order like Tuxfux.ch did.<br /> * 299 Euro - 19% German sales tax + 7,6% Swiss sales tax = 270.4 Euro<br /> * 270.4 Euro * 1.68 = 454.3 CHF<br /> * I chose a higher change value to inlcude border charges, everything that's left will be donated to Wikimedia.<br /> * no shipping costs! (pulster sends for free)<br /> * 2 Years warranty<br /> * For people in Bern: Lorenz Schori would pick up your devices as well an distribute them to you in Bern.<br /> <br /> The conditions to get a device from me:<br /> * You have to pay in advance, please send me an E-Mail to receive account informations.<br /> * As soon as I have all 10 payments I will order the 10 pack<br /> * You pick up your device in Basel, 1 or 2 exceptions can be made!<br /> * I raised the price to include border charges, everything not used for the order will be donated to Wikimedia.<br /> <br /> !! The order has been placed. Pulster.de will start delivery again on July 25th !!<br /> <br /> So add yourself to the list here if you want one:&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Status : 10/10 FULL! (#: have payed)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * # Adrian Rudin (Basel) [mailto:adrian@mav.ch] or [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/blackmav Contact]<br /> * # Thomas Jund (Aarau) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/none Contact]<br /> * # Peter Salvisberg (Wettingen) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Psal Contact]<br /> * # Christian Corrodi [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matto Contact]<br /> * # Lorenz Schori (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Znerol Contact]<br /> * # Philipp Meier (Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/PhilippMeier Contact]<br /> * Mathias Born (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Thisss Contact]<br /> * Pascal Mages (Bern/Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/FreeMind Contact]<br /> * Marcel Jost (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Onsonic Contact]<br /> * Marcel Wirth (Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Skarhand Contact] <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Geneve ====<br /> Status : 10/10 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''Contact person who order the 10Pack : Luca Capello &lt;br /&gt;'''<br /> WARNING, this list already contains 10 people! -- LucaCapello<br /> <br /> * Diego Abelenda&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Aelia Contact]<br /> * Luca Capello&lt;br /&gt; [mailto:luca@pca.it]<br /> * Nicolas Produit&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Produit Contact]<br /> * Sebastien Nanchen &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sn Contact]<br /> * Matthieu de Montmollin &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matthieudem Contact]<br /> * Robin Farine (Auvernier)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rfarine Contact]<br /> * Alexandre Ghisoli (Yverdon)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Agh Contact]<br /> * Raphael Studer (Thurgau) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tschudder Contact]<br /> * Christian Wäckerlin &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/boognu Contact]<br /> * Michael Stähli (Lausanne EPFL) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/adler Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== Suisse romande / Lausanne (EPFL) ====<br /> Status : 25/30 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''Contact person who order the 10Packs : [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Mathieu Habegger] &lt;br /&gt;'''<br /> <br /> * Mathieu Habegger (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Contact]<br /> * Matthias Brändli (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hb9egm Contact]<br /> * Frédéric Fokan(Lausanne) &lt;br /&gt;[mailto:fredericfokan@gmail.com Contact]<br /> * Gulu (Lausanne) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gulu Contact]<br /> * Edomaur (Lausanne, with Gulu) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edomaur Contact]<br /> * Layx (Lausanne) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Layx Contact]<br /> * Mélanie Baumann (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/calis Contact]<br /> * Laurent Fasnacht (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://gnugeneration.epfl.ch/users/fasnacht Contact]<br /> * Urs Blaser (UNIL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/arctus Contact]<br /> * David Lütolf (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dlutolf Contact]<br /> * François Bianco &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/fbianco Contact]<br /> * Samuel Dorsaz &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/akira Contact]<br /> * Ludovic Fardel (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lfardel Contact]<br /> * David Pelichet &lt;br /&gt;Contact via hb9egm&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Vincent Hentsch &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vincos Contact]<br /> * Carruzzo Gilles &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Willows Contact]<br /> * Nicolas Favrod-Coune &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nfavrod Contact]<br /> * Mathias Coinchon &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Coinchon Contact]&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Rey Cyril (Monthey) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cyril Contact]<br /> * Didier Raboud (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OdyX Contact]<br /> * Claude Angéloz &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/claude-elrond740 Contact]<br /> * Pascal Bach (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Anakron Contact]<br /> * Nicolas Etienne (Gimel) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nice Contact]<br /> * Michel Dänzer (Bern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrCooper Contact]<br /> * Yvon-Philippe Crittin&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/y-phil Contact]<br /> * Philippe Gimmel&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kampfgarten Contact]<br /> <br /> Persons who went lonely orders :<br /> * Philipp Aeberli (2 Units, Gland)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/philgood Contact]<br /> <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''''The list was extended to 30'''''&lt;br /&gt;<br /> 3 are still remaining !&lt;br /&gt;''--[[User:Habi|Habi]] 11:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Suisse romande / Morges ====<br /> <br /> I'll order a pack for Switzerland people. The price of FreeRunner will be 460 CHF all inclusive (VAT and shipping in your post box)<br /> Contact me here: [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jecuendet Contact] if you want one.<br /> We are already 6, so 4 remaining. Contact me at : jec at jesc dot ch<br /> <br /> == Spain ==<br /> === Spain (Country Group Sale) ===<br /> Status: 23/30<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/IberiaGroupSale España-Portugal group Sale via pulster.com]<br /> <br /> ordering 23 July<br /> <br /> === Madrid ===<br /> ==== Madrid ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MadridGroupSale Madrid Group Sale update (payment, shipment, etc)]<br /> <br /> Ordering aprox. 15th July<br /> <br /> Local delivery in central Madrid<br /> <br /> * 5 phones Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz (Group manager) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Pabloruiz contact me here URGENTLY!]<br /> <br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Carlos Padilla Sorbas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:cymonline contact me here]<br /> <br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Troy|Alvaro Garcia Roy]] 1 phone<br /> <br /> * [[User:peeloo | Alexandre Girard]] 1 phone<br /> <br /> People that cancelled their commitment for now:<br /> <br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Rafael Campos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Methril Contact] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> * [[User:kresp0 | Santiago Crespo]] 1 phone<br /> <br /> Vacancies for the scheduled order: 2<br /> <br /> Possible reason for cancelling order: being sure that the 850/1800MHz unit won't work correctly in Spain despite the use of 1800 MHz. Investigation in progress.<br /> <br /> === Barcelona ===<br /> ==== Barcelona ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> WARNING, this list already contains 10 people!<br /> <br /> * José Luis Pérez &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/jluis|Contact]]<br /> * David Reyes Samblas Martinez&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/mutrox|Contact]]<br /> * Sergio Arias &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/saerguio|Contact]]<br /> * Alex Muntada &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/alexm|Contact]]<br /> * Pascal co &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/pascalco|Contact]]<br /> * Antonio Rodríguez ( x2 )&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/AntonioR|Contact]]<br /> * Miquel Adell Borràs &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/Hanoc|Contact]]<br /> * Arturo Giner&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/artginer|Contact]]<br /> * Robert Millan&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/rmh|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Valencia ===<br /> ==== Valencia ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * Pau Gaspar Díaz &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/pau|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Islas Canarias ===<br /> ==== Tenerife ====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * Enrique Hernández Bello &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/SiNiESTrO|Contact]]<br /> * Alberto Morales Díaz &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/amd77|Contact]]<br /> * Teresa González de la Fe &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/Tgdelafe|Contact]]<br /> * Jesús Torres &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/Aplatanado|Contact]]<br /> <br /> == UAE ==<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Yaser Ammar &lt;br /&gt; [[Special:Emailuser/Waraqa|Contact]]<br /> <br /> == USA ==<br /> === Arizona ===<br /> ==== Tucson ====<br /> Willing to reship to nonlocal people within the US (cheaper if you're closer), or get absorbed into another group that's willing to reship. In talks with Boulder (Colorado) group.<br /> <br /> Status: 3/10<br /> * [mailto:wes.shull@gmail.com wesshull] Wes Shull - 1x GTA02 + 1x debug board<br /> * Richard Reichenbacher - 2x GTA02<br /> <br /> === Colorado ===<br /> ==== Boulder ====<br /> Status: 10/10<br /> * Vinc Duran x2 (I can purchase and distribute locally) &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:uberpfloyd@gmail.com?subject=Openmoko%20group%20sales Pfloyd] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pfloyd Contact]<br /> * John Miller &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jwm jwm]<br /> * D Padilla &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Joey Stanford &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/k0fcc k0fcc]<br /> * J Hinegardner &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jjh jjh]<br /> * S Derrick of New Mexico x2 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * R Schwarz &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rschwarz rschwarz]<br /> <br /> ==== Denver (Full) ====<br /> Status: 10/10 (includes the gentleman from Utah)<br /> * Shawn Sullivan &lt;br /&gt; [[mailto:shelbydz87@yahoo.com shelbydz87@yahoo.com]]<br /> * Peter Abplanalp &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alderion Contact]<br /> * Ben Burdette &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ansible Contact]<br /> * Tom Russell &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tazbert Contact]<br /> * Trace &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gnork Contact]<br /> * Michael Irons &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/iron999mike Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== Fort Collins ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Paul Hummer &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rockstar Contact]<br /> <br /> === California ===<br /> ==== Los Angeles ====<br /> Status: 10/10<br /> <br /> * Ian Douglas, Santa Monica &lt;br /&gt; I'll help organize a group sale, meet &amp; greet, but since I was selected to help test the Freerunner, I won't need to actually purchase one. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iandouglas Contact me here]<br /> * Matthew Wetmore, Westchester 90045 &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wetmoko Contact]<br /> * Daniel, Torrance &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Beaker82 Contact]<br /> * James Robertson, Irvine &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JamesRobertson Contact]<br /> * Bill Sun &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/DancingSun Contact]<br /> * Michael, Santa Monica &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bstudios Contact]<br /> * Russel Dwiggins, Cerritos &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/undrwater Contact]<br /> * Dima, Pasadena &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dima Contact]<br /> * Mike, Santa Monica (1 unit + 1 debug board)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Traveler Contact]<br /> * Joe Smith, Orange &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Yasumoto Contact]<br /> * Jose Torres, Hollywood &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jtorres Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== San Diego ====<br /> <br /> Status: 10/10 - full<br /> <br /> Includes North County, Riverside, Tijuana, etc. 10 pack has been ordered. <br /> <br /> * Peter Naulls, Carlsbad (South)/Mira Mesa (near Qualcomm) - will coordinate - contact me for details.&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pnaulls Contact]<br /> * Tracy Reed &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/treed Contact]<br /> * Paul Breed &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbreed Contact]<br /> * Greg Davidson &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JGregD Contact]<br /> * Larry Riedel &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:Larry@Riedel.org Contact]<br /> * David Wilhelm &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bluefir Contact]<br /> * Jim McLaughlin - could move to LA group if needed as other company office is near LAX&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rpq Contact]<br /> * Adam Hughes &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ajinxa Contact]<br /> * Rob Walker &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/RobWalker Contact]<br /> * Brian S. Dobrovodsky &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:bsdvodsky@gmail.com Contact]<br /> <br /> Status: 2/10<br /> <br /> * Urivan Flores &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/saaib Contact]<br /> * Alan Domissy &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/geomarcomputers Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== San Francisco Bay Area ====<br /> (Discuss this group sale, pickup and payments on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#San_Francisco_Bay_Area talk page])<br /> <br /> Status 5/10<br /> * Anton Bogdanov - (Cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vahi Contact] (San Francisco)<br /> <br /> * Tupshin Harper - (Not confirmed) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tupshin Contact]<br /> <br /> * Sebastian Coe - (Not confirmed) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savari Contact]<br /> <br /> * Jim Lutz - (Not confirmed) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JLutz Contact]<br /> <br /> * Elektrolott - (Cash, 900MHz) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Elektrolott Contact] (San Jose). &lt;br&gt; I am back on the list, as the [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner online store] says: GSM 900Mhz variant stock is due on on July 25th. &lt;br&gt;I am also interested in getting a debug board.<br /> <br /> === Florida ===<br /> ==== South/Central Florida ====<br /> Status 3/10<br /> * 1 x Jonathan Howard [[Special:Emailuser/kingtgaurd9|Contact]], Orlando <br /> * 1 x Jim [[Special:Emailuser/gumbukie|Contact]], Orlando<br /> * 1 x Lenny Markus [[Special:Emailuser/lensam69|Contact]], Miami<br /> <br /> === Idaho ===<br /> ==== Southwestern Idaho ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> * 1 × Eugene Kravtsov [[Special:Emailuser/theUg|Contact]], Garden City (Boise).<br /> * 1 × Christopher Blay [[Special:Emailuser/blayde|Contact]], Twin Falls.<br /> <br /> === Midwest ===<br /> '''(combine Illinois / Iowa / Tennesee / Texas / Wisconsin)'''<br /> Status: 10/10<br /> * Steven M [[Special:Emailuser/Montgoss|Contact]] - Cedar Rapids, IA<br /> * Joseph Booker [[Special:Emailuser/Sargas|Contact]] - Chicago, IL<br /> * Matt McCormick [[Special:Emailuser/Thewtex|Contact]] - Madison, WI<br /> * Charles Hill [mailto:charles.e.hill@gmail.com email] - Chicago, IL<br /> * Greg Bonett [mailto:greg@bonett.org email] - Iowa City, IA<br /> * Tushar Dayal [mailto:tdayal@gmail.com Contact] - Ames, IA<br /> * solomon jacob herscovitch [[Special:Emailuser/SoloSalsa|Contact]] - Chicago, IL<br /> * Eric Olson [mailto:ericools@gmail.com Contact] - Madison, WI<br /> * Tom Watson [[Special:Emailuser/Toggles|Contact]] - Pittsburgh, PA<br /> * An-Phong Le [mailto:an427@hotmail.com Contact] - Urbana, IL<br /> * Ed Marshall [[Special:Emailuser/Logic|Contact]] - Aurora, IL<br /> <br /> === Kentucky === <br /> (Possibly + 2 from Memphis?)<br /> Status: 8/10 (Possibly 10?)<br /> * Dan Staley [[Special:Emailuser/Pyrasi|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * Donnie Jones [[Special:Emailuser/Donniejones18|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * John Sterling [[Special:Emailuser/Sterling|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * James MacLachlan [[Special:Emailuser/Jmaclachlan|Contact]] (Louisville, KY)<br /> * John Askew [[Special:Emailuser/Johnaskyou|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * Devin Cook [[Special:Emailuser/Dcook|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * Geoff Ruscoe [[Special:Emailuser/Geocode|Contact]] - Louisville, KY<br /> * Jon Howard [[Special:Emailuser/Jchoward|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> <br /> === Ohio / Michigan ===<br /> Status: 11/10 (As of July 4&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;, 2008)<br /> * David Pais (Unknown City) [mailto:davioh2001@yahoo.com email] (Unresponsive)<br /> * Dave Ludlow (Toledo) (I can purchase and distribute) [[Special:Emailuser/adsllc|Contact]] (Confirmed)<br /> * Adam Steele (Cincinnati) [mailto:adam@laurasteele.net Contact] (Payment Received - Confirmed)<br /> * Elliot Bailey (Canton) [mailto:elliot.bailey@yahoo.com Contact] (Payment Received - Confirmed)<br /> * Richard Rowell (Grand Rapids) [mailto:richard.rowell@gmail.com Contact] (Payment NOT Received)<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Linuxpaul|Paul Wehr]] Ann Arbor (Payment NOT Received)<br /> * Micah Krafcik (Youngstown) [mailto:mjk20xx@yahoo.com Contact] (Payment Received - Confirmed)<br /> * Doug Wurtzbacher (Centerville) x2 [mailto:doug@medicineshoppekett.com Contact] (Payment Received - Confirmed)<br /> * Martin Dicks (Columbus) [[Special:Emailuser/mdicks|Contact]] (Payment NOT Received)<br /> * Tom Reed (Toledo) (Payment Received - Confirmed)<br /> <br /> The 10-pack purchase was made around 9A on July 3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; - they are on the way!<br /> There are 11 requests for 10 phones - they will be assigned in the order that payment clears.<br /> <br /> === Pacific Northwest ===<br /> ==== Oregon ====<br /> Status: 3/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Washington group) <br /> ===== Eugene =====<br /> * Quentin Hartman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/qhartman|Contact]] Willing to organize the Oregon group buy and/or be absorbed into another Pacific NW group if too few locals sign up.<br /> ===== Corvallis =====<br /> * Brian Wilson (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Brian_H_Wilson|Contact]] (in Corvallis actually)<br /> * Gary Oliver (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Adastra|Contact]] Also in Corvallis.<br /> <br /> ==== Washington ====<br /> ===== Seattle Area =====<br /> Status: 7/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Oregon group)<br /> * Jon Pomeroy (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Jepomeroy|Contact]]<br /> * Chris Baker (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/cwainb|Contact]]<br /> * Mark Zimmerman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mawazi|Contact]]<br /> * Wim Lewis (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Wiml|Contact]] In Wallingford.<br /> * Charles Wheeler (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/SnowWolf75|Contact]] Note: Work in Bellevue, live in Federal Way. May not have money till mid-July.<br /> * G.O. (Status confirmed) I'd like to get @ least one.<br /> * Matt Luzum (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mluzum|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Tennessee ===<br /> ==== Memphis ====<br /> Status: 2/10<br /> * Peter O'Connor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/poconnor Contact]<br /> * Jarvis Stubblefield (Prefer with Debug) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BallisticPain Contact]<br /> <br /> === Texas ===<br /> ==== Austin (15/10) ====<br /> * Dale Schumacher [[Special:Emailuser/dalnefre|Contact]]<br /> * Michael Cosby [[Special:Emailuser/mcosby|Contact]]<br /> * Paul Jimenez [[Special:Emailuser/pj|Contact]]<br /> * Charles [[Special:Emailuser/rbn|Contact]]<br /> * Anthony Kitchin [[Special:Emailuser/akitchin|Contact]]<br /> * Carl (x2) [[Special:Emailuser/texatopia|Contact]]<br /> * Robert (+Debug Board) [[Special:Emailuser/SHaRK|Contact]] (Houston)<br /> * Bryan DeLuca [[Special: Emailuser/Stupkid|Contact]] (Fort Worth)<br /> * Dennis Parker [[Special: Emailuser/dparker|Contact]]<br /> * Chip Rosenthal [[Special: Emailuser/chip|Contact]]<br /> * Brad Mouring [[Special: Emailuser/Bmouring|Contact]]<br /> * Joel Greenberg [[Special: Emailuser/joelg|Contact]]<br /> * Hans Loeblich [[Special: Emailuser/Peepsalot|Contact]]<br /> * Mark Rinaudo [[Special:Emailuser/Mrinaudo|Contact]]<br /> * Scott Farrell [[Special:Emailuser/sfarrell|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Dallas (4/10) ====<br /> * Philip White [[Special:Emailuser/pmw|Contact]]<br /> * Stephen Shelton [[Special:Emailuser/stephenashelton|Contact]]<br /> * Josh Valdez [[Special:Emailuser/ExxonValdeez|Contact]]<br /> * Chris Madsen [[Special:Emailuser/cjm|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Mid-Atlantic ===<br /> ==== District of Columbia (DC) Metro Area ====<br /> * Brian DeRocher [[Special:Emailuser/brian_252|email]]<br /> ==== Virginia====<br /> ===== Virginia Tech (1/10) =====<br /> * Lally Singh [[Special:Emailuser/lally|email]] -- yeah, if you're ordering anywhere in VA, lemme know.&lt;br /&gt;<br /> ===== Richmond=====<br /> *Philippe and Steve joined the NY list&lt;br/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== New York (20/20) ====<br /> As of 8 July 2008 we still need five people to pay in order to complete a second batch of ten. Just because there are twenty names on this list doesn't mean you can't join in.<br /> PLEASE contact Bert or Michael in addition to adding yourself to the list<br /> * Bert Hartmann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BertHartm Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Michael Cole mailto:mjcole137@gmail.com &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Remy Frerebeau [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rfrerebe Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Ulises E. Erickson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ulix Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Justin Daly [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/justo Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Philippe Gerard [[Special:Emailuser/feydreva|Contact]] I live in Richmond (VA) but we will never be 10 there&lt;br/&gt;<br /> * Evan Charlton mailto:evancharlton+om@gmail.com &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Paul Buede mailto:paul@buede.com &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced)Paul Hurlock [[Special:Emailuser/triclosan|Contact me here]] &lt;br/&gt;<br /> * Ryan [[Special:Emailuser/ryan|Contact me here]] (Connecticut, actually, but close enough.) &lt;br/&gt;<br /> * Charles Pax mailto:charles.pax@gmail.com It looks like things are getting organized. Bert contacted me.<br /> * Christopher Pax mailto:christopher.pax@gmail.com<br /> * Miki Grof-Tisza [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MTisza Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Daniel Dadap 1x [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/danek Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Yaroslav Halchenko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/yarikoptic]<br /> * Craig Woodward [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Woody14619|Contact here] or mailto:woody14619@yahoo.com Up-state &amp; will require re-ship.<br /> * Alex [[Special:Emailuser/rakukin|Contact]]<br /> * Charles Lohr [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cnlohr Contact me here] (Lives in MD, will require re-ship) NOTE: Unless someone emails me before July 7 I will withdraw from group order. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Steve Watson [[Special:Emailuser/Ssw0213|Contact]] I live in Richmond VA; please deliver via Philippe Gerard. 20!!!&lt;br/&gt;<br /> * xtrat [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xtrat Contact me here] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Maryland (0/10)====<br /> (Group apparently defunct due to NY Order)<br /> * Paul Buede I switched to New York, cause we don't have enough. Look up ^ &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Charles Lohr -- Switched to New York (if possible)<br /> * Alex (switched to NYC, see above; may be able to deliver phone(s) to DC metro)<br /> <br /> ==== North Carolina (2/10)====<br /> * Jason Sharpee [[Special:Emailuser/zonyl|Contact]] - Charlotte Metro area &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * William Vidrine [[Special:Emailuser/Infoport|Contact]] - Greensboro/Triad, DROPPED OUT for individual order &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Joe White [[Special:Emailuser/Raygions|Contact]] - Winston-Salem/Triad area &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> === Massachusetts ===<br /> Status: 10/10 (Full - Order placed 11:30 AM EDT July 3, 2008)<br /> * Benjamin Moody [[Special:Emailuser/FloppusMaximus|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Ken Young, Cambridge (Note, if we're not up to 10/10 on the day the Freerunner is announced, I'm going to drop out and order individually).[[Special:Emailuser/Dolson|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Chris White (for 2) [[Special:Emailuser/Safire|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Nick Dube - Pembroke, NH (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Doobe01 Contact]<br /> <br /> * Justin Brzozoski - Worcester, MA area [[Special:Emailuser/Jabski|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * John Nicholson - Amherst, MA (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/nicklogan|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Matthew Campbell - Worcester, MA [[Special:Emailuser/lifeisafractal|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Jeff Gold [[Special:Emailuser/jgold|Contact]]<br /> <br /> * Craig Allen [[Special:Emailuser/knodalyte|Contact]]<br /> <br /> Status: 7/10<br /> <br /> * Bala Nair - Acton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/bnair|Contact]]<br /> * Mike Doody - Groton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/dude|Contact]]<br /> * 0x Nathan Perry - Derry, NH (cannot switch to GSM at this time)<br /> * Kyle Harrington - Amherst, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/dancingcuziwanna|Contact]]<br /> * Ryan Svoboda - Worcester, MA (Will buy one individually on release day if this group is incomplete) [[Special:Emailuser/ryansv|Contact]]<br /> * Ryan Meador - Worcester, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/Yanroy|Contact]]<br /> * Jeff Gelbard - Haydenville, MA [[Special:Emailuser/jgelbard|Contact]]<br /> (Between the 2 groups, we already have 7 &quot;visibly&quot; from Worchester - Western MA...I think the group should be resorted....Who is the contact where the package will be sent?)<br /> <br /> === Nevada ===<br /> ==== Reno/Sparks ====<br /> Including Northwestern Nevada/ Northeastern California<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Tyrell Berry [[Special:Emailuser/Alawatsakima|Contact]]<br /> <br /> == UK ==<br /> <br /> * Stroller (Milton Keynes, can travel) &lt;br /&gt;mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk 01908 663 513. &lt;br /&gt;Thinks that breaking the UK up into regions - at least outside London - is silly. There are unlikely to be 10 people in $your_town who want a Freerunner, so some posting of Freerunners will surely be required; see [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Oxford the talk page]. This is the same cost anywhere in the UK.<br /> <br /> === Scotland ===<br /> ==== Edinburgh ====<br /> Status : 3/10<br /> * Joe Wells (Edinburgh) [http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~jbw/ Web] I have two comments:<br /> ** The Wiki's e-mail feature (those URLs with “Special:Emailuser” in them) does not seem to be working. I tried contacting Dave Ball and Stuart MacKinnon that way and got no reply. Later, Stuart and Dave (who I reached by writing a message here) told me they never got the e-mail. So the Wiki's e-mail feature might be broken. So please contact me by going to my web page and using my e-mail address listed there. Stuart, George, and Dave have been in contact with me by e-mail. I am happy to put anyone in Scotland who sends me e-mail in touch with the others.<br /> ** Not enough people have gotten in touch so far (as of 2008-06-28) to justify a bulk order of a 10-pack. Also, there is now a UK distributor: [https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=OpenMoko TrueBox]. Because TrueBox appears to be ordering 10-packs (and thereby getting the bonus goodies (headphones and pouches) that come in the 10-packs), it seems there is little motivation to try to organize a Scottish bulk order. So I am likely to give up on the idea of a Scottish bulk order for myself (unless lots of people contact me in the next day or so!).<br /> * Dave Ball (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Daveb Contact]<br /> * george Maistros (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mordilo_k Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== Glasgow ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * Kyle Gordon [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kylegordon Contact]<br /> * Sean Anderson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Moniker42 Contact]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;Kenny Duffus [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sealne Contact]&lt;/s&gt; ordered from truebox<br /> <br /> === England ===<br /> <br /> ==== Hampshire ====<br /> <br /> Status: 16/20 at 2008-05-24<br /> <br /> http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FreerunnerBulkBuy<br /> <br /> Willing to re-ship within the UK.<br /> <br /> (Sorry, we set up the page before we knew about this one)<br /> <br /> ==== London ====<br /> <br /> Status : 13/10<br /> <br /> <br /> * aled &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aled Contact]<br /> * Robert Piasek (actually in Southampton)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Queen6 Contact]<br /> * Tom Scholl (Cambridge, travel to London now and then anyway so could pick up) &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:thomasscholl@gmail.com]<br /> * Weiss (Cambridge, could collect from London) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Weiss Contact]<br /> * Neil Bentley (in Wiltshire) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ohnez Contact]<br /> * &lt;strike&gt;rhn x 2 &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rhn Contact] &lt;/strike&gt; (moved)<br /> * Tim Coggins&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Contact]<br /> * Michele Mattioni (I'm based in Cambridge too, but if Tom can go to London I can grab the phone in Cambridge) &lt;br /&gt;[mailto:mattions@gmail.com]<br /> * Ben F-W (Fulham, London) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/benfw Contact]<br /> * T. Chan (Cambridge, vaguely knows Weiss) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/TC Contact]<br /> * Rob Paulson (Derby, but will be visiting London in July) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Myfanwy Contact]<br /> * Mario &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Spirer Contact]<br /> * David Pottage (actually in Reading)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chrestomanci Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== West Midlands ====<br /> Status : 3/10<br /> <br /> * Mo Abrahams (Walsall) &lt;br /&gt; mailto:moabrahams@dashavoo.com<br /> * Jonathan Spooner (Walsall)<br /> * E. Lucretiu (Stafford) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lucretiu Contact]<br /> <br /> == Latvia ==<br /> === Riga ===<br /> ==== Riga ====<br /> Status : 3/10<br /> * Ilya [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/VRGhost Contact]<br /> * Arvids [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Arvids Contact]<br /> * Uldis [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ulcha Contact]<br /> <br /> == Singapore ==<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> * Wee Kiam Peng [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jipi Contact]<br /> * Chen Ruo Fei [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crf Contact]<br /> * Moritz Haeberle [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Morid Contact]<br /> * Nicolas Lannuzel [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nlannuzel Contact]<br /> <br /> == Israel==<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> * Ofer Herman &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/oferhe Contact]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Talba Talba]<br /> * Dan &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Da-x Contact]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nuker18 Vladi]<br /> <br /> == Czech Republic ==<br /> <br /> &lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;<br /> '''Tato skupina byla uzavřena!'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> Koordinátorem objednávání je Martin Šenkeřík [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]<br /> &lt;/div&gt;<br /> === Aktuálně ===<br /> *'''4.7. - ''' Peníze jsem odeslal Pulsterovi. Objednávka čítá:<br /> 37 x FreeRunner<br /> 5 x Debug board<br /> 10 x Obal<br /> 17 x Headset<br /> 1 x Sharp Zaurus Stift Plastik<br /> <br /> Pulster psal:<br /> Hi,<br /> <br /> first thanks for all the work you have collecting the money - I will<br /> send you some small present for your help !<br /> <br /> The first batch of Freerunner are sold out, my apologises. We expect new<br /> delivery on 25.07.08 and will do our best to ship your Openmoko unit !<br /> Making a payment now will ensure you to be one of the happy receivers of<br /> the unit with this next delivery !<br /> <br /> Payment:<br /> <br /> 30 units * 299 = 8970 EUR. Shipping is free.<br /> Please transfer it to our bank account. You will find our bank<br /> informations below. If the funds are on the way, send us a short email<br /> notice. It will speed up the procession of your order. Thank you very<br /> much.<br /> <br /> Invoice/shipping address:<br /> for warranty issues I need the name of all buyers please.<br /> also your shipping address.<br /> <br /> Shipment:<br /> We try to ship same day we are got the new Openmoko units in stock.<br /> Again sorry for the delay and thanks for your order with Pulster.<br /> You will get your order with insured and registered DHL airmail parcel.<br /> Please find average trasit times here:<br /> http://www.dhl.de/dhl?tab=1&amp;skin=hi&amp;check=yes&amp;lang=de_EN&amp;xmlFile=3607<br /> <br /> <br /> Please feel free to ask if there are any questions left. We are glad to help.<br /> <br /> Many thanks,<br /> Christoph Pulster<br /> <br /> *'''2.7. - ''' Takže mám už peníze od všech zájemců. Dag Rauer a Martin Hinner neodpovídají. Jenže neodpovídá ani Pulster. Na mailinglistu psal:<br /> Hallo<br /> <br /> many thanks for your big interest in our Freerunner 299 eur offer.<br /> We started sales Friday 9:00 and 10:30 all the units from our first<br /> batch are sold out. I really have to excuse myself to all the persons<br /> who made a order but did not get any reply until yet, sorry !<br /> You can be sure I will work 24h at the moment to come back to each<br /> of you with a confirmation of your order with delivery date etc.<br /> <br /> We get new units 07/25/2008 (25.July). All customers who already made a<br /> order will get a unit from this batch, promised !<br /> Again sorry and thanks.<br /> <br /> Chris<br /> Takže počítám, že se snad v brzké době ozve. Já budu na netu snad zase zítra.<br /> *'''1.7. - ''' Od Pulstera žádná odpověď. Stále čekáme na peníze od opozdilců.<br /> *'''30.6. - '''Kratky report:<br /> ** jsem ted trochu odstrihnuty od internetu, budu se snazit aspon jednou denne pripojit<br /> ** mam penize uz na 30 telefonu, jeste mne nedorazily penize od nekolika lidi, kteri potvrdili jejich odeslani<br /> ** psal jsem Pulsterovi, jestli se to vyprodani jeho zasob telefonu tyka i nas... Cekam na odpoved (doufam ze ne :( )<br /> <br /> '''Odeslal jsem všem ze seznamu mail s informacemi k odeslání peněz. Pokud náhodou někomu mail nedorazil, urychleně se mi ozvěte, ať se nemusí moc čekat. Mohlo se stát, že jsem v tom množství někoho nechtěně vynechal...'''<br /> *'''26.6. - '''V pondělí porovnám výpis z účtu se seznamem zájemců tady na wiki a od koho tam nebudou peníze budu ho ještě pro jistotu kontaktovat. Pokud se ukáže, že všechno dorazilo tak jak mělo, odešlu peníze Pulsterovi.<br /> Na to jsem se ptal v České Spořitelně, a převod více než 200 000Kč je nutné provést v bance, za co si vyberou 200Kč poplatek, plus 1% z částky za zahraniční převod v EUR, avšak maximálně 1500Kč - což je náš případ, plus ještě poplatky Německé banky protože všechny poplatky půjdou na vrub odesílatele (snad to nebude moc). Tyhle poplatky uhradím z toho, co jsem připočítal k ceně telefonu.<br /> <br /> ''A je to tu!! Pulster.de nejenom potvrdil cenu, ale také oznámil, že už má telefony skladem (ne však zatím k veřejnému prodeji, ale nám je připravený je odeslat).''<br /> <br /> === Základní informace ===<br /> Jedná se o hromadnou objednávku [[Neo_FreeRunner|Neo FreeRunner]] ([[Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware|hardware]] - GSM, GPS, WiFi, CPU 400MHz, ...; software - [http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/freerunner1.4.swf náhled na připravovanou Qtopii]) do České republiky.<br /> Cena 299€.<br /> <br /> Protože se množí na to dotazy, vypíšu co je součástí dodávky a co ne:<br /> *Obdržíme:[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:GTA02ALL.png]<br /> ** FreeRunner ;-)<br /> ** stylus (pravděpodobně ten s laserem aspol...)<br /> ** adaptér<br /> ** USB kabel<br /> ** 512MB SD card<br /> <br /> *Neobdržíme (možno přiobjednat):<br /> ** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/d__ompouch__OpenMoko_Freerunner_Pouch786.htm obal] (19€) - navíc 500Kč<br /> ** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/index.html?d__omheadset__OpenMoko_Headset785.htm headset] (9€) - navíc 250Kč<br /> <br /> Omlouvám se těm, kteří by ještě chtěli přiobjednat některé z příslušenství a už odeslali peníze. Bude bohužel potřeba v případě zájmu odeslat ještě navíc sumu za příslušenství. ''Pokud by byl malý zájem, mohl bych to zaplatit ze zálohy a případný nedoplatek vybrat v hotovosti (platí bohužel jen pro Brno a Zlín).''<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;'''Platí pro obě větve!'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> Tak jsme na kroku 4!<br /> # Registraci provedete zápisem svého jména a kontaktu do patřičné větve odpovídající místu vašeho osobního převzítí telefonu. Můžete nabídnout distribuci do míst, které ještě nikdo neposkytuje.<br /> # stanovena lehce nadhodnocená částka: 7500Kč za telefon, s debug boardem na 10000Kč na bezpečné pokrytí očekávaných i neočekávaných výdajů spojených s objednávkou<br /> # každý zájemce odešle tuto sumu na účet Martina Šenkeříka, identifikuje se svým jménem a příjmením ve zprávě příjemci<br /> # '''odeslal jsem peníze na účet Pulster.de'''<br /> # po obdržení balíku s telefony se vypočte finální částka za telefon, a případný přeplatek bude vrácen každému osobně při převzetí telefonu (lokální distributoři samozřejmě obdrží patřičný počet telefonů a peněz, aby mohly být předány dále)<br /> # všem se dítko šťastně dopraví do rukou<br /> <br /> *[[Talk:GroupSales#Diskuze | Diskuse]]<br /> *[[Talk:GroupSales#Dopl.C5.88uj.C3.ADc.C3.AD_informace | Doplňující informace]]<br /> <br /> === Brno ===<br /> <br /> ==== Distribuční schéma ====<br /> <br /> '''[n]''' FreeRunner<br /> '''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)<br /> '''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč<br /> '''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč<br /> ''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více<br /> voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;'''&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot; color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;Status : 23&lt;/font&gt;'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> '' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''<br /> <br /> *'''Martin Šenkeřík''' - [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]<br /> **'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Brno&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Radek Bartoň''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Blackhex|Contact]]<br /> ****'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Frýdek-Místek&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> *****-<br /> ***'''€ Pavel Erben''' - [[User:Erby|Kontakt]]<br /> ***'''€ Radek Machulka''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Werty|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Aleš Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Setr|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Jozef Mlich [2, 1D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/joejoe|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Martin Faltičko''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MafRaf|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Karel Volný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/kavol|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Martin Nagy [1, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/mnagy|Contact]]<br /> ****'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Bratislava&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> *****'''€ František Horínek''' - [[Special:Emailuser/PipBoy2000|Contact]]<br /> *****'''€ Martin Vyšný''' [1, 1H, 1O] - [mailto:vysny@baka.sk Contact]<br /> *****'''€ Tomáš Sirný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Junckritter|Contact]]<br /> *****'''€ Ján Janech [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Janik|Contact]]<br /> *****'''€ Ivan Šeďo [1, 1D, 3H, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/ikoframe|Contact]]<br /> ******'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;SK/Žilina&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ******'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;SK/Piešťany&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Tom Varga [H, O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Varg|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Petr Ondo [3, 3O, 2H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Votik|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Pavel Krátký [1, 1H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MrBobby|Contact]]<br /> **'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Zlín&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Martin Holec [H, O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Martix|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Pavel Kovář''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Fox|Contact]]<br /> ****'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Ostrava&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> *****'''€ Marian Krucina [D,H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/oak|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Praha ===<br /> <br /> ==== Distribuční schéma ====<br /> '''Vzhledem ke jednodušší distribuci půjde balíček do Brna a odtud jej převeze Tomáš Varga.'''<br /> <br /> '''[n]''' FreeRunner<br /> '''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)<br /> '''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč<br /> '''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč<br /> ''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více<br /> voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''<br /> <br /> &lt;center&gt;'''&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Status : 16&lt;/font&gt;'''&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> '' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''<br /> <br /> *'''€ Jan Mareš [2,2H]''' - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:iVir Contact]<br /> **'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Praha&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Martin Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/masca|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Michal Pěnka [H]''' - [http://michal.penka.name/kontakt Contact]<br /> ***'''€ Jan Černý [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/xcerj01|Contact]]<br /> ****'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Kolín&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Miloslav Machotka [O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Machy|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ David Kozub [D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Zub|Contact]] (Kdyby z Prahy seslo, volim Zlin jako fallback.)<br /> ***'''€ Milan Vontorčík [HO]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Mvontorcik|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Vojtěch Vozáb''' - [mailto:vojtav@centrum.cz Contact]<br /> ***'''€ Zdeněk Trávníček [D]''' - [[User:V154c1|Contact]] (Klidne si zajedu i jinam po republice)<br /> ***'''€ Milan Šedý [2]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Wortyr|Contact]]<br /> ****'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Nové Město na Moravě&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> *****'''Jaromír Šír [[http://www.pulster.de/index.htm?d__z5stift1__Sharp_Zaurus_Stift_Plastik782.htm S]]''' - [mailto:sheeryjay@gmail.com Contact] (openmoko ne, pouze stylus)<br /> **'''&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Písek&lt;/span&gt;''':<br /> ***'''€ Luboš Podrázský [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/zsman|Contact]]<br /> ***'''€ Petr Marvan''' - [mailto:petr.marvan1@seznam.cz Contact]<br /> <br /> == Slovak Republic ==<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Czech_Republic Spojeno s Czech Republic]<br /> <br /> == Slovenia ==<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> * bajsi - [[mailto:Niko.Jezernik@Uni-MB.si Contact]]<br /> <br /> == Croatia ==<br /> Status : 12/10<br /> * w00t - [[Special:Emailuser/W00t|Contact]]<br /> * matija - [[Special:Emailuser/Matija.z|Contact]]<br /> * valajbeg - [[Special:Emailuser/valajbeg|Contact]]<br /> * kost - [[Special:Emailuser/kost|Contact]]<br /> * mnalis - [[Special:Emailuser/mnalis|Contact]]<br /> * tcavrag - [[Special:Emailuser/tcavrag|Contact]]<br /> * slavus - [[Special:Emailuser/slavus|Contact]]<br /> * bsevo - [[Special:Emailuser/bsevo|Contact]]<br /> * amd64 - [[Special:Emailuser/SilverSpace|Contact]]<br /> * v-v - [[Special:Emailuser/v-v|Contact]]<br /> * Lovro - [[Special:Emailuser/Lovro|Contact]]<br /> * Zlotvor - [[Special:Emailuser/zlotvor|Contact]]<br /> (maybe we should make one group for bosnia, croatia &amp; serbia together?) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php/Talk:GroupSales#Croatia the talk page]<br /> <br /> == Russia ==<br /> <br /> Due to common customs problems we created google group to discuss how to get that 10 phones pack in Russia. Join us http://groups.google.com/group/openmoko-russia <br /> <br /> === Moscow ===<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Special:Emailuser/sinister|sinister]]<br /> | <br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 2. [[Special:Emailuser/shallburn|shallburn]]<br /> | <br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 3. [[Special:Emailuser/vadson|vadson]]<br /> | vadimhohlov<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 4. [[Special:Emailuser/Tallex|Tallex]]<br /> | tallex<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 5. [[Special:Emailuser/mex3|mex3]]<br /> | 3meandme<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 6. [[Special:Emailuser/Pva|pva]]<br /> | volkov.peter<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 7. [[Special:Emailuser/cbou|cbou]]<br /> |<br /> | 2<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 8. [[Special:Emailuser/Buffet|Buffet]]<br /> | kaledin<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 9. [[Special:Emailuser/homeboy|homeboy]]<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 10. [[Special:Emailuser/Bepcyc|bepcyc]]<br /> | bepcyc<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 11. [[Special:Emailuser/kmeaw|kmeaw]]<br /> | kmeaw<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> <br /> | 12. [[Special:Emailuser/Casufi|Casufi]]<br /> | VladimirKotulskiy<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 13. [[Special:Emailuser/Bam|bam]]<br /> | butirsky<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 14. [[Special:Emailuser/mihhey|mihhey]]<br /> | mihhey<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 15. [[Special:Emailuser/ke|ke]]<br /> | ke<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 16. [[Special:Emailuser/passshok|passshok]]<br /> | passshok<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 17. [[Special:Emailuser/Dmitry Shurupov|Dmitry Shurupov]]<br /> | Dmitry Shurupov<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 18. [[Special:Emailuser/alsroot|alsroot]]<br /> | alsroot<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 19. [[Special:Emailuser/vinokurov.alexey|vinokurov.alexey]]<br /> | vinokurov.alexey<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 20. [[Special:Emailuser/mithron|mithron]]<br /> | mithron<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 21. [[Special:Emailuser/Anarchist|Anarchist]]<br /> |<br /> | 2<br /> |<br /> | 2<br /> |-<br /> | 22. [[Special:Emailuser/Mixer|Mixer.slc]]<br /> |Mixer.slc<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 23. [[Special:Emailuser/sergey.sign|sergey.sign]]<br /> |sergey.sign<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 24. [[Special:Emailuser/Pyromaniac|Pyromaniac]]<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 25. [[Special:Emailuser/yoush|yoush]]<br /> | Nikita Youshchenko<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 26. [[Special:Emailuser/Von-Hamster|Von-Hamster]]<br /> | Von-Hamster<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 27. [[Special:Emailuser/Onibi|Onibi]]<br /> | brem.sk<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 28. [[Special:Emailuser/Shulyaka|Shulyaka]]<br /> | Denis Shulyaka<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 29. [[Special:Emailuser/icukeng|icukeng]]<br /> | icukeng<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 30. [[Special:Emailuser/REDkiy|REDkiy]]<br /> | REDkiy<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 31. [[Special:Emailuser/svschwartz|svschwartz]]<br /> | Schwartz Sergey<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 32. [[Special:Emailuser/NoMad|NoMad]]<br /> | Antioh<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 33. [[Special:Emailuser/ekot|ekot]]<br /> | ekot<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 34. [[Special:Emailuser/Shalygin.V|Shalygin.V]]<br /> | Shalygin.V<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 35. [[Special:Emailuser/GreyCardinal|GreyCardinal]]<br /> | GreyCardinal<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 36. [[Special:Emailuser/ite|ite]]<br /> | ite<br /> | 0(1? я в раздумьях)<br /> | 0<br /> | 0(1? я в раздумьях)<br /> |-<br /> | 37. [[Special:Emailuser/vvtimofeyev|vvtimofeyev]]<br /> | vvtimofeyev<br /> | 1<br /> | 0<br /> | 0<br /> |-<br /> <br /> <br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 38<br /> | 6<br /> | 16<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Saint-Petersburg ===<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Special:Emailuser/Alexxy|Alexxy]]<br /> | alexxyum<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 2. [[Special:Emailuser/Kainspb|Nikolay Kasatkin]]<br /> | nikolay.kasatkin<br /> | 2<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 3. [[Special:Emailuser/cracatau|cracatau]]<br /> |<br /> | 1 (3?)<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 4. [[Special:Emailuser/alexei379|alexei379]]<br /> | alexei379<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 5. [[Special:Emailuser/krigstask|krigstask]]<br /> | sterkrig<br /> | 2<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 6. [[Special:Emailuser/lupin-de-mid|Lupin Demid]]<br /> | lupin-de-mid<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 7. [[Special:Emailuser/Setar|Setar]]<br /> | Setar<br /> |1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 8. [[Special:Emailuser/VisJiser|VisJiser]]<br /> | VisJiser<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 9. [[Special:Emailuser/explosion|exiless]]<br /> | explosion<br /> | 0(1? я в раздумьях)<br /> | 0(1? я в раздумьях)<br /> | 0(1? я в раздумьях)<br /> |-<br /> | 10. [[Special:Emailuser/danil|Danil Kutkevich]]<br /> | Danil Kutkevich<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 11. [[Special:Emailuser/Yaleks|Aleksandr Yakimov]]<br /> | Yaleks<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 12. [[Special:Emailuser/imatveev13|imatveev13]]<br /> | imatveev13<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 13. [[Special:Emailuser/SKiller|SKiller]]<br /> | skeler<br /> | <br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 14. [[Special:Emailuser/Curu3MyHg|Curu3MyHg]]<br /> | <br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 15. [[Special:Emailuser/Stampit|Stampit]]<br /> | <br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 16. [[Special:Emailuser/Rezak|Rezak]]<br /> | Rezak<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | 17. [[Special:Emailuser/rgo|rgo]]<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 18. [[Special:Emailuser/alex_pux|alex_pux]]<br /> | Alex_pux<br /> | 1<br /> | <br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 18(19?)<br /> | 4(5?)<br /> | 7(8?)<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Magnitogorsk ===<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Special:Emailuser/psychos|Alexandr Smolentsev ]]<br /> | [http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=c2iySBgAAACyTh6h5wmnzzxPhWeN_8BEtiDKbEn1fjJfYkQTWXi1Vg psychos]<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 0<br /> | 1<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Trechgorny ===<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Special:Emailuser/kayo|Kayo]]<br /> | [http://groups.google.ru/groups/profile?enc_user=_hFF4RQAAAAd-3MHKABCcRBWFswNHamnOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A Kayo]<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Niznhny Novgorod === <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Special:Emailuser/Ntropy|Ntropy]]<br /> | [http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=PSrAbRYAAAC1cJd46Y4K1QK1ilA02Mhqo4cocwWvDVg2RHsu8f1bCg Natry Clorum]<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> | 2. [[Special:Emailuser/eagafonov|eagafonov]]<br /> | [http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=DZ6WuxYAAAC4NC2Ez7VnaOK5YizqOI9jo4cocwWvDVg2RHsu8f1bCg eagafonov]<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 2<br /> | 2<br /> | 2<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Rostov-on-Don ===<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[slayer]]<br /> | slayer<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> <br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 0<br /> | 1<br /> |}<br /> === Krasnodar ===<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Special:Emailuser/astroiLL|astroiLL]]<br /> | Ilya Byven<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> <br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 0<br /> | 1<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Stavropol ===<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> | login<br /> | google groups name<br /> | colspan=&quot;3&quot;| number of items<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> |<br /> | Neo FreeRunner<br /> | Dboard<br /> | Spares Pack<br /> |-<br /> | 1. [[Grif Ruten]]<br /> | Grif Ruten<br /> | 1<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> |-<br /> <br /> |Total number:<br /> |<br /> | 1<br /> | 0<br /> | 1<br /> |}<br /> <br /> == Belarus ==<br /> === Minsk ===<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Const - [[Special:Emailuser/Const|Contact]]<br /> [[Category:Community]]<br /> [[Category:Purchase]]<br /> <br /> == Taiwan ==<br /> === Taipei ===<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * Cruz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cruz Contact]<br /> * mkl23 @ShinChu [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mkl23 Contact]<br /> * htchien [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/htchien Contact]<br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - phone + board) Siongui [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Siongui Contact]<br /> <br /> == Bahrain ==<br /> Status : 3/10<br /> <br /> * Salman [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/smhar Contact]</div>

Wolfmanjm http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Group_sales 2008-07-11T05:17:29Z

<p>Wolfmanjm: /* San Francisco Bay Area */</p> <hr /> <div>Openmoko have announced a scheme to sell the forthcoming Neo Freerunner at a discount if bought in multiples of 10 (US$369, instead of 399), to be shipped in one package. Group buying will thus save money on the purchase, and on the shipping. This page is to to organise group purchases by region.<br /> <br /> For calculating shipping costs, the dimensions of one 10-pack is 435mm x 371mm x 119mm. The weight should be around 3kg.<br /> <br /> Steve from Openmoko announced &quot;Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets.&quot;<br /> So join us within a local group !<br /> <br /> &lt;div style='float:right'&gt;__TOC__&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> == [[Group Sales Australia| Australia ]]==<br /> <br /> <br /> == Austria ==<br /> There is a group-buy page at MetaLab, available here: http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko .. we almost have the full 10 slots assigned, and its quite possible that we will order *20* phones, so please register on the Metalab pages and let us know if you're interested .. <br /> <br /> === Salzburg ===<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * D. Kepplinger (at MetaLab)<br /> <br /> === Wien ===<br /> Status: 2/10<br /> * M. Greifeneder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mikegr Contact me here]<br /> * J. Vaughan (torpor) -- http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/torpor Contact me here]<br /> <br /> <br /> === Styria ===<br /> ==== Graz ====<br /> Group 1: Status: 10/10<br /> <br /> * F Hackenberger [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Deadman66 Contact me here]<br /> * J Florineth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Flojoh Contact me here]<br /> * G Michelitsch [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/graf_ithaka Contact me here]<br /> * M Lipp [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Neldoreth Contact me here]<br /> * M Maier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/species Contact me here]<br /> * M Konrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/konni Contact me here]<br /> * K Krammer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krake Contact me here]<br /> * M Prokop [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mika Contact me here]<br /> * C Lauermann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cms Contact me here]<br /> * S Simmer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/StefanS Contact me here]<br /> <br /> Group 2: Status: 4/10<br /> * K Holler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kho Contact me here]<br /> * St Stampler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/stst Contact me here]<br /> * D Pail [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/neotracker Contact me here]<br /> * P Jocham [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Phi01 Contact me here]<br /> <br /> == Belgium ==<br /> === Brussels ===<br /> Status 6/10<br /> <br /> '''NO''' OpenMoko FreeRunner 900/1800 available anymore (on July 3, 2008 at 21h) as needed in Europe. Furthermore,<br /> confirmation: From Pulster.eu: ''Our sales price is 299 EUR + shipping 15 EUR in Europe = 314 EUR. The idea of &quot;open&quot; is ours. So check our price calculation: if you order the Freerunner from Taiwan, it's 399 USD + 100 USD shipping + c. 90 USD &quot;import taxes&quot; inside Europe. Total 589 USD = c.380 EUR. So it will be cheaper and we Europeans have 2 years of warranty when buying from Pulster, instead of a 14 days(?) for imported goods.''<br /> <br /> Cancelled for the above reason (and not 10 people reached) * npettiaux [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Npettiaux Contact me here]<br /> * jwarnier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jwarnier Contact me here]<br /> * mvanderdonck [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nicodache Contact me here]<br /> * lpirotte [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lpirotte Contact me here]<br /> * Ciaran [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ciaran Contact me here]<br /> * Lleonard [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lleonard Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Flanders ===<br /> ==== Aalst/Aarschot/Gent/Brugge ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> * XVens, mailto: xavier DOT vens AT gmail DOT com<br /> * Arno85, mailto: aaron DOT helin AT gmail DOT com, Kortrijk<br /> <br /> * Yvo Brasseur, mailto: yvo_brasseur AT archon DOT be Living in Aarschot, working in Brussels.<br /> * Kamil Kubacki, mailto: kamil DOT kubacki AT gmail DOT com [or kamil.kubacki@gmail.com]<br /> <br /> ps: Dolfje think it will be cheaper to buy it from pulster.de. Can anyone confirm?<br /> <br /> Confirmation: From Pulster.eu:<br /> <br /> Our sales price is 299 EUR. The idea of &quot;open&quot; is ours. So check our price calculation: if you order the Freerunner from Taiwan, it's 399 USD + 100 USD shipping + c. 90 USD &quot;import taxes&quot; inside Europe. Total 589 USD = c.380 EUR.<br /> <br /> So it will be cheaper and we Europeans have 2 years of warranty when buying from Pulster, instead of a 14 days(?) for imported goods.<br /> You can read all advantages on pulster.eu<br /> <br /> ==== Antwerp ====<br /> Status 11/10<br /> <br /> * michielv [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Michielv Contact me here]<br /> * Peter N [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubsy Contact me here]<br /> * Ivo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ivo Contact me here] on holiday from july 18th until august 10th.<br /> * Peter Leemans, mailto: peter AT x-tend DOT be<br /> * Richard B [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/richardb Contact me here]<br /> * Jeroen Van Goey [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BioGeek Contact me here]<br /> * Jeroen D [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jeroendoggen Contact me here]<br /> * Diego Garcia, mailto: didac.garcia AT gmail DOT com<br /> * Sam Geeraerts (Laakdal) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Samgee Contact me here]<br /> * Stefaan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Stefaan Contact me here]<br /> * Bert_2 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bert_2 Contact me here] If they aren't cheaper via Pulster.<br /> <br /> <br /> Status 1/10<br /> * Jove [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jove Contact me here] I would like a developer board too.<br /> <br /> Perhaps if we have a few more users, we can redistribute the groups geographically?<br /> <br /> === Wallonia ===<br /> ==== Walloon Brabant ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Istvan, mailto: buki DOT istvan AT gmail DOT com<br /> <br /> == Brasil ==<br /> === Nordeste ===<br /> <br /> ==== Ceará ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Alexandre Sousa [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:asm Contact]<br /> ** Endereço para entrega: Fortaleza<br /> <br /> ==== Bahia ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Valessio Brito [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Valessio Contact]<br /> ** Endereço para entrega: Salvador - Bahia<br /> <br /> === Sul ===<br /> ==== Paraná ====<br /> Status: 5/10<br /> * Beraldo Leal [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/beraldo Contact]<br /> * Cleber Santz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Clebersantz Contact]<br /> * Jacson Querubin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Spacial Contact]<br /> ** 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - avançado) <br /> * Mauro Nogueira [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mandcap Contact]<br /> * Osvaldo Santana Neto [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/osantana Contact]<br /> <br /> Tenho endereço de entrega para as seguintes cidades:<br /> * Foz do Iguaçu, PR;<br /> * Cascavel, PR;<br /> * Curitiba, PR;<br /> * São Paulo, SP;<br /> <br /> Valor: Aproximadamente USD 4.100,00 (10 aparelhos + frete UPS). Há também o valor do frete para entrega final para quem não for retirar pessoalmente quando chegar.<br /> <br /> == Bulgaria ==<br /> === Sofia ===<br /> ==== Sofia ====<br /> Status : 8/10<br /> <br /> * Dimitar Staykov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OpenMitko Contact] (Pulster)<br /> * Vernim, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vernim Contact]<br /> * Geo, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/geomer Contact]<br /> * Iceman, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ice Contact], 02 July 2008 ([http://www.pulster.de/engl/openmoko.htm Pulster])<br /> * jdivanov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jdivanov Contact], 16 June 2008<br /> * luchoh, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/luchoh Contact], 26 June 2008<br /> * nninov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nninov Contact], 26 June 2008<br /> * danov2, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/danov2 Contact], 30 June 2008<br /> <br /> == Canada ==<br /> <br /> === British Columbia ===<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * Dave (Vancouver) Vancouver Linux users group mailto: doc AT skynet REMOVE dot REMOVE ie - organising this group<br /> * Justin (Vancouver): mailto: stryderjzw AT gmail<br /> * Robert (Vancouver) - robtaylor &lt;AT&gt; tinsputnik &lt;DOT&gt; com (1 unit)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> '''Group 2'''<br /> <br /> Status: 4?/10<br /> <br /> * Chris (Vancouver) - chris (AT) fourthandvine (DOT) com (1 unit)<br /> * Ali (Vancouver) - hit2436 (A-T) hotmail (dot) com (1 units)<br /> * Rob (Vancouver) - rtymensen (at) gmail (DoT) com (1 unit)<br /> * James (Vancouver) - james (at) greycastle (dot) net (1 unit)<br /> <br /> === Alberta ===<br /> Status : 10/10 (this order has already been placed)<br /> <br /> * [[User:Wuth|Wuth]] (Pincher Creek) : [mailto:wuth@acm.org] : 1 unit + 1 debug board<br /> * [[User:Slm3095om|stacy]] (2 units) : slm3095om AT millions dOt ca<br /> * [[User:Abnormal|Morgan]] : [mailto:lightningperf@hotmail.com]<br /> * [[User:picosrfr|Will]] (High Level) : [mailto:will.siddall@gmail.com]<br /> * [[User:Shadowwolf|Vince]] (Red Deer) : 1 Unit + 1 Debug board [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Shadowwolf Get a hold of me here]<br /> * [[User:Deanb2|Dean]] (Calgary) : [mailto:deanb@gbtn.net]<br /> * [[User:jimb|jim b]] (Edmonton) : [mailto:callonjim@gmail.com][http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jimb mokomail]<br /> * [[User:Crz|Steve]] (Calgary) : 1 unit, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crz Contact]<br /> * [[User:Belrick|Bruce]] (Calgary) : 1 unit [mailto:bruce.elrick@gmail.com email]<br /> <br /> === Ontario/Quebec ===<br /> ==== GTA (Toronto) ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * Gerald A [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Historybuff Contact me here]<br /> * MattC, mailto: quirkz AT gmail<br /> * Sergey K, openmoko AT deeptown dOt org<br /> * Daniel Lister, gmail(dan.lister)<br /> * Ronnie Wong: '''3 units''' - r25wong AT ryerson dOT ca<br /> * Paul V, contact using gmail, original.roju<br /> * Matt Manjos, matt (AT) manjos * com<br /> * Steven O'Reilly, soreilly AT walled DOT net<br /> <br /> Group 2 Status (Hamilton): 6/10<br /> <br /> * Gabriel D - ace AT staticwave DOT ca<br /> * Richard D - rtdegelder --&gt; gmail.com<br /> * Steve S - ssinger_pg AT sympatico dot ca<br /> * Wolfram Kahl - kahl McMaster CA<br /> * Paul Wouters - paul@xelerance.com '''1 units'''<br /> * John Hurley - nybble at eml dot cc<br /> <br /> Group 3 Status (Montréal): 2/10<br /> * Patrick Hétu - patrick AT koumbit DOT org<br /> * Eric Lebel - lebeleri AT aei DOT ca<br /> <br /> Shall we start Group 4 (Toronto) ?<br /> * Michael Mather - firstname.lastname AT teksavvy.com<br /> <br /> Group 5 Status (Ottawa): 2 / 10<br /> * Mathieu Charron - mathieu.charron AT elwillow.net (maybe 2 units, one for a friend)<br /> <br /> == Chile ==<br /> === Santiago ===<br /> Status : 5/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Mankeke]] Ricardo Manríquez C., mailto: ricardo.manriquez &quot;remove this and add AT&quot; gmail &quot;dot&quot; com<br /> * [[User:XKnightmareX]] Gonzalo Pesenti., mailto: mare.knight1 &quot;remove this and add AT&quot; gmail &quot;dot&quot; com<br /> * [[User:Freyes]] Felipe Reyes., mailto: felipereyes &quot;remove this and add AT&quot; gmail &quot;dot&quot; com<br /> * [[User:crsepulv]] Cristian Sepúlveda, mailto: sepulveda.cristian@gmail.com<br /> <br /> === Valdivia ===<br /> * [[User:alvherre]] Álvaro Herrera, mailto: alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org (I'm OK with joining the guys in Santiago)<br /> <br /> == China ==<br /> === BeiJing ===<br /> Status:10/10<br /> *Luther &lt;br/&gt; mailto:lutherluo@qq.com &lt;br/&gt; 2 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br /> *Gnosy &lt;br/&gt; mailto:gnosyhh@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br /> *Bin Zong &lt;br /&gt; mailto:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 Freerunner &lt;br/&gt; MSN:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com<br /> *Lee zaixin&lt;br /&gt; mailto:shqlzx@126.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 Freerunner &lt;br/&gt;<br /> *Zhuwei&lt;br /&gt; mailto:grissom_zhu@139.com &lt;br/&gt; MSN:wyh0310@hotmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 Freerunner &lt;br/&gt;<br /> *zhaojun&lt;br/&gt; mailto:zhaojun1631@163.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> *Benoit Begue&lt;br/&gt; Retired: please count me out, I'm leaving Beijing sooner than expected. Sorry for this.&lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner<br /> *Tristan&lt;br/&gt; mailto:0x5478(at)gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; MSN:liu_bei_bei(at)hotmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br /> *Lalo&lt;br/&gt; lalo dot martins at gmail (do ''not'' email me with random stuff, specially in Chinese!)&lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner<br /> *Lu Kuo&lt;br /&gt;Email and MSN: koreylu#hotmail.com (substitute @ for # please)&lt;br /&gt;1 freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> <br /> Status:2/10<br /> *Hong Zhiyi &lt;br/&gt; mailto: zhiyi.hong@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner<br /> *Yang Ming &lt;br/&gt; mailto: yangm.cn at gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner.<br /> <br /> === ShangHai ===<br /> Status:5/10<br /> &lt;br/&gt; <br /> * Pajda, info on my [[User:Pajda|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Pajda|contact me here]]. 1 x freerunner<br /> * ChandleWEi mailto:chandle.wei@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> * YxunLan mailto:dennis.yxun@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> * Leongoo [[Special:Emailuser/Leongoo|Contact]] 1 x freerunner<br /> * Exp &lt;br/&gt; mailto: linyuan2 at 163.com or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Experience|Cotact me here]] &lt;br/&gt; 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board<br /> <br /> === Guangzhou ===<br /> Status:2/10<br /> *Geoffrey &lt;br/&gt; mailto:dghfalcon@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner and 1 debug borad.<br /> *monomania &lt;br/&gt; mailto:simulacrumqiu@gmail.com &lt;br/&gt; 1 freerunner.<br /> <br /> == Colombia ==<br /> === Bogotá ===<br /> Status: 5/10<br /> * Javier Rojas. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:jerojasro@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Gustavo Andrés Angulo. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:woakas@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Exell E. Franklin J. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:arawaco@ieee.org&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Fredyrivera, Humano. Phone and debug board. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:fredyrivera@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Juan Carlos Castellanos. Phone. &lt;br /&gt; mailto:juancastellanosm@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> == Denmark ==<br /> If we do not reach a total large enough, Denmark **is** a very small place - surely we could figure out a way of getting them to find their way 'round the country :)<br /> <br /> === EU (german) vs. Direct (OpenMoko) discussion ===<br /> <br /> Esben Damgaard has created a Google Group discussion to evaluate which is the optimal:<br /> http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk<br /> <br /> [[User:asbjorn | Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asbjorn (contact)] has [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk/browse_thread/thread/cd68b49d8520ecd2# offered] to act as invoice hub for group sales from either OpenMoko or Handheld-Linux. [[User:asbjorn | Details]]<br /> <br /> === Invoice considerations ===<br /> <br /> According to Lone Borre from SKAT.dk the rules are different if the buyer is private or a company. If a company buys the phone the invoice must be addressed to the company and the company must be a registered importer. This makes it harder to do a group sale in which 2 of the recipients need an invoice. <br /> <br /> === Jutland ===<br /> ==== Aalborg ====<br /> Status: 7/10<br /> <br /> Should anyone need it, transportation from Aalborg to Thisted for phones can be arranged, if you don't want to pick it up in Aalborg yourself :) ~leinir<br /> <br /> As it looks right now, it seems that it would be cheaper and easier for us to buy through Pulster in Germany - see the following email: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017778.html ~leinir<br /> <br /> * Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:admin@leinir.dk &lt;br /&gt; [[User:Leinir]]<br /> * Fabian Olesen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:firewalkerx@gmail.com<br /> * Helge Willum Larsen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:helge.at.helges.dk<br /> * Kristian Lindemann Larsen (2 stk)&lt;br /&gt; mailto:walker@pandia.dk<br /> * Brian Olsen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:downloader@pandia.dk<br /> * Henrik Odder Jensen &lt;br /&gt; mailto:herakles@pandia.dk<br /> <br /> ==== Aarhus ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * Kent S. Knudsen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Forestmountain contact me here] - [[User:Forestmountain]] (&lt;strike&gt;2 phones; will join any danish group if necessary&lt;/strike&gt;)<br /> * Lars Jensen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/el_senator contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)<br /> Kent &amp; Lars: As of 5/7: We have ordered 10 units (all in all with Fyn) from handheld-linux.com. Arguments here: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk The deal is closed.<br /> <br /> * Martin Pedersen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cheeses contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)<br /> <br /> ==== Skjern ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Carlo]]<br /> <br /> ==== Sønderborg ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * Theis Hjorth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Theis.hjorth contact me here] (1 phone + 1 devkit) &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> === Fyn ===<br /> Status: 10/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:EsbenDamgaard]] (need 3 (Looney &amp; Gert))<br /> * [[User:apm]] (need 1 with invoice - can pick up in Copenhagen)<br /> * [[User:LarsOPoulsen | Lars Poulsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LarsOPoulsen (contact)] (1 phone)<br /> <br /> Peter: As of 5/7: We have ordered 10 units (+5 for Århus) from handheld-linux.com.<br /> Arguments here: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk<br /> The deal is closed.<br /> <br /> === Sjælland ===<br /> ==== Copenhagen ====<br /> Status: 12/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:jrcarlsen | Johnny Rose Carlsen]] (+45) 28 14 60 04 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jrcarlsen (contact)] 1 phone<br /> * [[User:Fursund]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fursund (contact)] 1 phone<br /> * [[User:tabac | Thomas Ammitzbøll-Bach ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tabac (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1 phone&lt;/strike&gt; Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:chel | Christian E. Lysel ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chel (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1 phone&lt;/strike&gt; Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:UlrikRasmussen | Ulrik Rasmussen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/UlrikRasmussen (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1&lt;/strike&gt; Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:OleTange | Ole Tange]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OleTange (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;I need 14 with invoice&lt;/strike&gt; - Buying through pulster.de because of the invoice considerations mentioned above)<br /> * [[User:Pascal | Pascal d'Hermilly]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pascal (contact)] (Buying through US-openmoko shop)<br /> * [[User:maha | Martin Hansen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/maha (contact)] (3 with invoice)<br /> * [[User:SvenneK | Svenne Krap ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/SvenneK (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;1&lt;/strike&gt;) Buying through Handheld-linux through [[User:asbjorn|Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen]].<br /> * [[User:bss | Bo Stendal Sørensen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bss (contact)] (1)<br /> * [[User:Glenn | Glenn Møller-Holst]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Glenn (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;2 freerunners + debug board, +invoice&lt;/strike&gt; - Buying through pulster.de)<br /> * [[User:knmeister | Kristian Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/knmeister (contact)] &lt;strike&gt;(I need 1 with invoice)&lt;/strike&gt; Seems it is easier to buy from a reseller.<br /> * [[User:hammerfar | Henrik Hammer Berthelsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hammerfar (contact)] (2 with invoice) - ordering through [[User:asbjorn|Asbjørn]] as a hub.<br /> * [[User:Bubbi | Steen Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubbi (contact)] (&lt;strike&gt;2 with invoice&lt;/strike&gt; - buying through reseller)<br /> * [[User:asbjorn | Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asbjorn (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice) I has [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-order-dk/browse_thread/thread/cd68b49d8520ecd2# offered] to act as hub for group sales from OpenMoko and Handheld-Linux.<br /> * [[User:KlaymenDK | Jan Gundtofte-Bruun]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KlaymenDK (contact)] -- will wait until software is stable enough to work as primary mobile phone<br /> <br /> == Estonia ==<br /> === Tallinn ===<br /> Let's see if we can get ten people together for this. I'm willing to organise the local distribution if we can. Spread the word and try to get more locals interested in it. [[User:Yogiz|Yogiz]] 08:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Yogiz | Yogiz]] ([mailto:yogizz@gmail.com contact]) 1 phone<br /> * [[User:Zooter | Zooter]] ([mailto:zooter@hot.ee contact]) 1 phone<br /> <br /> == Finland ==<br /> <br /> See also [[Openmoko Local Groups: Finland]], if you're interested.<br /> <br /> === Possible new order(s) ===<br /> <br /> Status: 4/10<br /> These did not participate in the pulster.de order(s) shown below.<br /> <br /> Helsinki:<br /> <br /> * Ilari Oras &lt;br /&gt; ilari DOT oras AT welho DOT com<br /> * Jaakko Nissi &lt;br /&gt; jnissi AT pallokorva DOT org<br /> * Jerry Jalava &lt;br /&gt; jerry DOT jalava AT iki DOT fi<br /> <br /> Turku:<br /> <br /> * Jaakko Lehtinen, jaakko dot lehtinen at gmail dot com<br /> <br /> Pulster.de now sells individual phones at 329€/phone, but 10-packs at 299€/phone.<br /> <br /> === Already ordered ===<br /> ==== Uusimaa ====<br /> (Note to gta02v6 waiting people:&quot;The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT<br /> LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption&quot;. So, there is should be no reason to wait for V6. See also [[Neo FreeRunner GTA02 Hardware#GTA02v6]].)<br /> <br /> ===== Helsinki I =====<br /> '''THIS GROUP OF 10 NEOS HAS BEEN ORDERED''' (from pulster.de)<br /> <br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * Mikko Rauhala x2 [mailto:mjr@iki.fi mjr@iki.fi]<br /> * Aleksi Hankalahti &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi]<br /> * Seppo Hätönen &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:karrde@iki.fi karrde@iki.fi]<br /> * Ville-Pekka Vainio &lt;br /&gt; vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi<br /> * Heikki Hallamaa &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi]<br /> * Tomi Jylhä-Ollila &lt;br /&gt; tomi.jylha-ollila@helsinki.fi<br /> * Richard Braakman<br /> * Timo Jyrinki &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:timo.jyrinki@iki.fi timo.jyrinki@iki.fi]<br /> * Jussi Kekkonen &lt;br /&gt; tmt AT ubuntu DOT com (moved from below as one slot became available here)<br /> <br /> ===== Helsinki II, Turku &amp; Vaasa=====<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Rhk DISCUSS HERE]<br /> <br /> Status : 3/10<br /> <br /> '''THIS GROUP OF 4 NEOS HAS BEEN ORDERED (3+1 (lindi) from outside this list)''' (from pulster.de)<br /> <br /> * Risto H. Kurppa &lt;br /&gt; risto AT kurppa DOT fi<br /> * Aapo Rantalainen &lt;br /&gt; aapo DOT rantalainen AT gmail DOT com<br /> * Matti Laakso &lt;br /&gt; matti DOT laakso AT kotiposti DOT net<br /> <br /> &lt;del&gt;Vaasa:&lt;/del&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;del&gt;* Mikko Niemikorpi, mikefulli ÄT gmail PISTE com&lt;/del&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Lappi ====<br /> ===== Kemi =====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> '''ORDERED'''<br /> <br /> 4kpl tilattu pulster.de:stä. Tilaus ei ehtinyt ensimmäiseen erään. Tilaukseen varmaan voi lisätä vielä tavaraa, jos halukkaita löytyy.<br /> <br /> '''[[User:Cg|Discuss the order here]]'''<br /> <br /> Kemi:<br /> * Henri Valta &lt;br /&gt;henri PISTE valta ÄT kemi PISTE fi<br /> * Tommi Juvonen &lt;br /&gt;tassi ÄT mediapumppu PISTE info<br /> * Jaakko Pörhö &lt;br /&gt;ensteinfrank ÄT hotmail PISTE com<br /> * Tuomo Mattila (Oulu)&lt;br /&gt;tuomom ÄT ee PISTE oulu PISTE fi<br /> <br /> == France ==<br /> === Bretagne ===<br /> ==== Brest ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * StevenLeRoux [mailto:steven@pourri.fr steven@pourri.fr] Jabber_Id:Steven@jabber.fr<br /> * Acheteur potentiel #2<br /> <br /> ==== Rennes ====<br /> Status : 3/10<br /> <br /> * Cédric DUFOUIL (openmoko at tsleg point com)<br /> * Yves MAHE (ymahe at zindep dot com)<br /> * Guillaume BERTHELOM (yogui29 at gmail dot com)<br /> <br /> === Pays de la Loire ===<br /> ==== La Roche sur Yon ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vtouchar Vincent Touchard]<br /> <br /> ==== Nantes ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> * [[User:Yoann|Yoann ARNAUD]]. OK for a ship in Rennes if needed. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Yoann Contact me here]<br /> * [[User:sim51|Benoît SIMARD]]. Idem [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sim51 Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Nord ===<br /> <br /> <br /> === Ile de france ===<br /> ==== Paris ====<br /> Status : 21/30<br /> <br /> * StevenLeRoux<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Phyce|Phyce]]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')<br /> * &lt;s&gt; Yann SLADEK&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')<br /> * [[User:Wilk|Wilk]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wilk Contact me here]<br /> * Jonathan Magano ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JonathanMM Contact me here])<br /> * Benjamin Renard (bn8[AT]zionetrix.net)<br /> * [[User:OlivierBerger|OlivierBerger]]<br /> * [[User:BartGS|BartGS]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BartGS Contact me here]<br /> * [[User:rcoscali|Rémi Cohen-Scali]]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Valos|Valéry Febvre]]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Manou|Emmanuel Raviart]]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')<br /> * Le Troll Farceur ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LeTrollFarceur Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:mshook|Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer]]<br /> * [[User:LoicMinier|Loïc Minier]]<br /> * [[User:chansen|Cyril Hansen]]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:hbernard|hugues]]&lt;/s&gt; (beartech)<br /> * Titilambert ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/titilambert Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:Raphux|Raphux]]([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Raphux Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:tuXXX|Damien Thébault]] (Contact me [[User:tuXXX|here]] or [[Special:Emailuser/tuXXX|here]])<br /> * [[User:kkum|Kumar]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/kkum|here]])<br /> * Gand' ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gand' Contact me here])<br /> * [[User:Sporniket|David SPORN]]<br /> * [[User:Bedo|Bedo]]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Ainulindale|Julien Cassignol]]&lt;/s&gt; (commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop)<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Theocrite|Theocrite]] &lt;/s&gt; (commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop)<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[[User:Gui82|Gui82]]&lt;/s&gt; (commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop)<br /> * [[User:Yciabaud|Yoann Ciabaud]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/yciabaud|here]])<br /> You may also see :<br /> http://bearstech.com/shop<br /> <br /> === Lorraine ===<br /> ==== Nancy ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:mosan|Nicolas Salles]]<br /> <br /> === Rhône-Alpes ===<br /> ==== Lyon ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/patou Vincent MEURISSE]<br /> * &lt;s&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pini Gilles FILIPPINI]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')<br /> <br /> ==== Grenoble ====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * &lt;s&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbollard Philippe]&lt;/s&gt; (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aurelien Aurelien] (''commande groupée en préparation sur http://www.guilde.asso.fr/wiki/Openmoko '')<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Hey_popey Damien]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/swap38 Johann] (''commande groupée en préparation sur http://www.guilde.asso.fr/wiki/Openmoko '')<br /> <br /> === Alpes de Haute Provence ===<br /> ==== Manosque ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cfdev Cyril]<br /> <br /> === Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur ===<br /> ==== Sophia Antipolis ====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nico.inc Nicolas HUOT]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xavier_OM Xavier CREMASCHI]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasile Vasile Jureschi]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Herve5 Hervé Sainct]<br /> <br /> === Midi-Pyrénées ===<br /> ==== Toulouse ====<br /> <br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Ortalo|Ortalo]]<br /> <br /> == Germany ==<br /> === Baden-Württemberg ===<br /> ==== Karlsruhe ====<br /> Out:<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Spacemarine|Spacemarine]] I'm out. Since the Freerunner is available for 300 Euro in Germany, I don't see any point in organizing a groupbuy anymore. I've sent an email to everyone else interested in the groupbuy. If you are in this list or if I met you on the Kalug Meeting, you should have gotten it.<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Dr.Nop|Dr.Nop]] (Habe mein Telefon jetzt ebenfalls bei Pulster bestellt.)<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Gollum|Gollum]] Pulster doesn't give away the extra goodies, but the price still seems fair -- I'm out, too.<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Archimedes|Sebastian]] I'm going to buy at pulsters (299€) =&gt; I'm out<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Cfo|cfo]] I think the offer of pulster is fair! =&gt; I'm out<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/BlackFog|BlackFog]] thinks he has to wait for the next Pulster delivery date<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Adonres|Adonres]] I'll buy at pulsters, too =&gt; I'm out<br /> <br /> <br /> Still In:<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/JensB|JensB]]<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Gromgull|Gromgull]] (in Kaiserslautern, but Karlsruhe is close enough, and I doubt that I'll find 10 people here.<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Ebi|Ebi]]<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/RIdd3r|Fabian]]<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Roduit|Roduit]] In Heidelberg. Karlsruhe is close enough.<br /> <br /> ==== Leonberg ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Agon|Agon]] Maybe 1 Freerunner.<br /> ----<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/ZaPPaS|ZaPPaS]] Sice the Freerunner is available for a comparable price at [http://www.pulster.de/] I will buy there...<br /> <br /> ==== Tübingen ====<br /> Status 6/10<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/NoBody|NoBody]] close to tuebingen and stuttgart (between both)<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/eliasp|eliasp]] (3 Freerunner (me, qknight + sbock) - Tübingen downtown<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/nobs|nobs]] thinking about buying one; if I am #10, count me in; if there is someone else #11 you can drop me<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/marjay|marjay]] take also one (Dettingen/Erms)<br /> <br /> Out:<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/MiTo|MiTo]] 299 Euro bei Pulster.de sind ein fairer Preis, kaufe es deshalb dort.<br /> <br /> ==== Ulm ====<br /> Status: 2/10<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/mzanetti|mzanetti]] <br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Lord_Evil|Lord_Evil]] ich nehm auch eins. Evtl. kann ich mich auch an Augsburg anhängen.<br /> <br /> === Bayern ===<br /> <br /> ==== Augsburg ====<br /> <br /> Status 5/10<br /> I just want to see if there are enough people to fill up to ten. So add your name here if you are interested.<br /> <br /> *[[Special:Emailuser/Whoever|whoever]] - Ich nehm eins, wenn die Münchner keines übrig haben.<br /> *[[Special:Emailuser/paddy2706|paddy2706]] - Ein OpenMoko bitte :)<br /> <br /> Wann werden die dann bestellt/gezahlt? Dauert bei mir no kurz bis ichs Geld für zusammen hab aber dann nehm ich eins.<br /> MfG [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MookiE MookiE]<br /> <br /> Hallo, ich würde mich für einen Freerunner interessieren. Wie sieht es mit Zoll aus? Kommt der noch dazu?<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Murks Murks]<br /> <br /> $3690 (10 Freerunner) <br /> + $ 160 (Versand lt. Australiern)<br /> =======<br /> $3850<br /> <br /> $3850<br /> + $ 732 (19% Einfuhrumsatzsteuer)<br /> + $ 0 (kein Zoll für Handys)<br /> =======<br /> $4582<br /> <br /> $458 / 1,5$/€ = 305 € pro Telefon (als Richtwert)<br /> <br /> ==== München ====<br /> Momentan Favorisiert: Bestellung bei Pulster<br /> <br /> Wenn du bei der Sammelbestellung der Münchner User Group mitmachen möchtest, dann gehe bitte zur <br /> '''[[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup Seite]]'''!<br /> <br /> Hilf mit, eine [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup]] aufzubauen!<br /> <br /> Die alte Liste habe ich entfernt, da suf der User Group Seite eine aktuelle ist. (koebi)<br /> <br /> === Berlin===<br /> ==== Berlin ====<br /> <br /> Help to form a [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Berlin|Berlin User Group]]!<br /> <br /> Status 20/20<br /> * Stephan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Fischel Contact me here]<br /> * Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Thebohemian Contact me here]<br /> * Nico [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Nico Contact me here]<br /> * Bastian [[User:Fries43]]<br /> * Sven-Ola [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Sven-ola Contact]<br /> * Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:arnepp Contact me here]<br /> * MM [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:MM Contact]<br /> * Keks [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Keksdosenmann Contact]<br /> * Matthias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:mk Contact]<br /> * Norbert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Noha Contact]<br /> * Joscha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Joka Contact]<br /> * Janne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Janne Contact]<br /> * Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Robx Contact]<br /> * Conrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Caribu Contact me here]<br /> * govindas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:govindas Contact me here]<br /> * philippt [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:philippt Contact me here if you dare ;-)]<br /> * Stephan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Su2 Contact me here]<br /> * Iván [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:ogai]<br /> * david [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:dk Contact]<br /> * kajik [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:kajik contact]<br /> <br /> === Bremen ===<br /> ==== Bremen ====<br /> Status 3/10<br /> * Gero Mudersbach [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gero Contact me here]<br /> * Hartje Bruns [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrBurns Contact me here]<br /> * Timo Scheffler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Faldrian Contact me here]<br /> <br /> ==== Bremerhaven ====<br /> <br /> === Hamburg ===<br /> ==== Hamburg ====<br /> Status 9-10<br /> <br /> * Jan 4-5[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jan07 Contact me here]<br /> * Varacanero [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/varacanero Contact me here]<br /> * Ole 3-5 pcs [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Olemoko Contact me here]<br /> * Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/GuraX Contact me here]<br /> * Arne.anka 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Arne.anka Contact me here]<br /> * Wasili Goutas 1pc + debug adapter [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Laki Contact me here]<br /> * mimbeck 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mimbeck Contact me here]<br /> * savi 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savi Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Hessen ===<br /> ==== Frankfurt ====<br /> Status 1-10<br /> <br /> * Blacky [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Blacky Contact me here]<br /> <br /> === Niedersachsen===<br /> ==== Hannover====<br /> Status 3/10<br /> <br /> * Dattel83 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dattel83 Contact me here]<br /> * [[User:Ditto|Ditto]] contact me via [[Special:Emailuser/Ditto|e-mail form]] (If we don't get enough orders maybe we should join with [[GroupSales#Bielefeld|Bielefeld]] or another town close by)<br /> * [[User:LaKoon|LaKoon]]<br /> <br /> === NRW ===<br /> ==== Aachen ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> * Henrik, infos on my [[User:Henrikz|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Henrikz|contact me here]]<br /> * David, infos on my [[User:TechnoFan|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/TechnoFan|contact me here]]<br /> * Stephan, infos on my [[User:chaq|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/chaq|contact me here]]<br /> * Michael, infos on my [[User:knut|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/knut|contact me here]]<br /> <br /> ==== Bielefeld ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> <br /> * David, infos on my [[User:Raven|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Raven|contact me here]]<br /> * Sebastian, infos on my [[User:Seppi|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Seppi|contact me here]]<br /> * Dackel, infos on my [[User:Killerdackel|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Killerdackel|contact me here]]<br /> * Conny<br /> * Arndt, infos on my [[User:Arndot|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Arndot|contact me here]]<br /> <br /> ==== Bocholt ====<br /> ===== (Fachhochschule in Bocholt) =====<br /> * 1 x adslex<br /> * 1 x dg [[Special:Emailuser/dg|contact me here]]<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> === Sachsen-Anhalt ===<br /> ==== Stendal (evtl. Magdeburg) ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * Fabian Off [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fabian2de Contact me here]<br /> <br /> <br /> === Thueringen ===<br /> ==== Weimar ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Fries43]]<br /> <br /> ==== Ilmenau ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:KimKiesel]]<br /> <br /> === Sachsen ===<br /> * Da es das Gerät bei PULSTER für 299€ gibt und man mit einem 10er Paket diesen Preis nicht unterbieten kann, abgesehen davon, dass wir sowieso keine 10 Leute zusammenbekommen, sollte jeder sein Gerät einzeln Bestellen. Lediglich die Versandkosten kann man bei einer 10er Bestellung bei PULSTER sparen, was sich auch nicht lohnt. Die Accessoires muss man bei PULSTER separat bestellen. Ich hoffe, dass das allen genehm ist. --[[User:White gecko|White gecko]] 22:37, 29 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> * Da PULSTER den Preis aus 329€ gehoben hat würde sich ein 10er Paket bei PULSTER wieder lohnen, da man so 30€ pro Gerät sparen würde, wie sieht es mit euch aus? Ich habe mal einen Jabber-Gruppen-Chat openmoko@conference.comiles.eu eingerichtet meldet euch bitte, dass wir bald bestellen können sonst sind wir bei der Lieferung am 25.7. wieder nicht dabei. --[[User:White gecko|White gecko]] 14:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> * Um unsere Sammelbestellung voran zu treiben habe ich einen [http://comiles.eu/~natanael/wordpress/2008/07/10/free-your-phone/ Blogeintrag] verfasst und Robert hat eine [http://comiles.eu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openmoko Mailingliste] eingerichtet. --[[User:White gecko|White gecko]] 00:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Chemnitz ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * Tobias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tobydox Contact me here]<br /> * Michael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/her Contact me here]<br /> ==== Dresden ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * Martin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nodge Contact me here]<br /> <br /> ==== Leipzig ====<br /> Status 6/10<br /> <br /> * Natanael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/white_gecko Contact me here] (+3)<br /> * Micha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Adian Contact me here]<br /> * xbaldauf [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/xbaldauf Contact me here]<br /> <br /> == Hungary == <br /> Good to know:<br /> *discussion here: http://hup.hu/node/54588<br /> *mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-groupsales-hungary<br /> *group ordering coordinator: Dániel Vásárhelyi (see below) - please contact me on any questions<br /> <br /> ordering rules:<br /> * anyone can add and remove him/herself on the list - new names MUST be _appended_ to the list<br /> * please use real name and working e-mail address<br /> * although this list is informative, please extend it _only_ if you are really serious about ordering it<br /> * coordinator contacts everyone interested prior to actual buying<br /> <br /> === Budapest ===<br /> ==== participiants ====<br /> # Ferenc 'Lion' Veres [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kempelen Contact] lion kukac netngine pont hu<br /> # Laszlo 'rka' Szabo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rka Contact]<br /> # tg [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tg?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Contact]<br /> # Árva T. Mihály - lirul [KUKAC] hixsplit [PONT] hu<br /> # Nyosigomboc - nyos [KUKAC] nyos [PONT] homelinux [PONT] net<br /> # Ludvig Adam - hunludvig [KUKAC] gmail [PONT] com<br /> # [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asdmin?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Dániel 'asd' Vásárhelyi]<br /> # btamas, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/btamas Contact]<br /> # Kovács 'ka87' András, andras [kukac] csevego [pont] net<br /> # pcm, pcm [kukac] freemail [pont] hu<br /> # Geza Piros, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gpiros Contact]<br /> # Áron Preisinger, appa00 [kukac] gmail [pont] com [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/appa Contact]<br /> # pierre286, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pierre286 Contact]<br /> # Hélei Zoltán, heleiz [kukac] gmail<br /> # Radics Áron, raron @ vipmail . hu<br /> # Laszlo Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]<br /> # tr3w [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tr3w Contact]<br /> # Ferenc Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]<br /> # Bolyóczki Zsombor, mogorva kukac tuxworx pont hu<br /> # Sütő Zoltán, suto dot zoltan at t dash online dot hu<br /> # Zsolt Pittmann, pittmann dot zsolt at gmail dot com<br /> # KREKACS Laszlo, laszlo {pont} krekacs {pont} list {kukacka} gmail {pont} com<br /> # Móker Tamás,[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rwind Contact]<br /> # Krisztián Kovács, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Krisztian Contact]<br /> # Tamas Michalik, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dotmind Contact]<br /> # Peter Roosz, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rope Contact]<br /> # Eduard Iacoboaia, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Polaru Contact]<br /> # László Vadász, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lvadasz Contact]<br /> # Attila Lendvai, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/attila.lendvai Contact]<br /> # Thomas Otterbein [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tommi Contact]<br /> # Beáta Müller [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/emm Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== groups ====<br /> <br /> legend:<br /> * yes = I definitely want it (one)<br /> * N = I want this many (2 for two headsets, for example)<br /> * yes? = I prefer having one, but it's not a problem if not<br /> * no = I absolutely don't want to have this item<br /> * ? = It is not important for me, either to have or not (use this instead of 'no' at least at the warranty)<br /> <br /> ===== group #1 - open ! =====<br /> This group places order at nearest distributor on the cheapest price. <br /> You will be contacted before ordering.<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! your name<br /> ! e-mail address<br /> ! want phone? (yes/N)<br /> ! want case? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! want headset? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! prefer 2y warranty? (yes/?)<br /> ! want devboard? (yes/yes?/no)<br /> |-<br /> | tg<br /> | tg x-net hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | Kovács András<br /> | andras at csevego dot net<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | KREKÁCS László<br /> | laszlo.krekacs.list kukac gmail potty com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | ?<br /> | yes?<br /> |-<br /> | Kovács Krisztian<br /> | kroomagnon at gmail dot com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Preisinger Áron<br /> | appa00 kukac gmail pont com<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | ?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | Nyos<br /> | nyos kukac nyos pont homelinux pont net<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> <br /> | Radics Áron<br /> | raronkonektor kukac gmail pont com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | Besenyei Tamas (btamas)<br /> | tamas besenyei net<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Ruskó Péter<br /> | peter kukac rusko pont hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Roósz Péter<br /> | peter kukac roosz pont hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Kárpáti László<br /> | leslie [at] zenevilag [dot] net<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Szabo Laszlo<br /> | rka kukac rka pont hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Lendvai Attila<br /> | attila.lendvai gmail<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | your name<br /> | e-mail address<br /> | want phone?<br /> | want case?<br /> | want headset?<br /> | prefer warranty?<br /> | want devboard?<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===== group #2 - open (ordering at mid-august)! =====<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! your name<br /> ! e-mail address<br /> ! want phone? (yes/N)<br /> ! want case? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! want headset? (yes/yes?/?/no)<br /> ! prefer 2y warranty? (yes/?)<br /> ! want devboard? (yes/yes?/no)<br /> |-<br /> | Árva T. Mihály<br /> | lirul at hixsplit dot hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Hélei Zoltán<br /> | heleiz [at] gmail [dot] com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | 2<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Muller Beata<br /> | beata [dot] muller [at] gmail [dot] com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Móker Tamás<br /> | rwind [at] apacheweb [dot] hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Piros Geza<br /> | geza [dot] piros [at] gmail [dot] com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> |-<br /> | Otterbein Thomas<br /> | tommi [at] t-online [dot] hu<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> | yes<br /> | ?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | tr3w<br /> | tr3w at freemail<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Sütő Zoltán<br /> | suto [dot] zoltan [at] t [dash] online [dot] hu<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | Vadász László<br /> | laszlo pont vadasz kukac yahoo pont com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes?<br /> |-<br /> | Dániel Vásárhelyi<br /> | asdmin at gmail.com<br /> | yes<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes?<br /> | yes<br /> | no<br /> |-<br /> | your name<br /> | e-mail address<br /> | want phone?<br /> | want case?<br /> | want headset?<br /> | prefer warranty?<br /> | want devboard?<br /> |}<br /> <br /> === Kecskemét ===<br /> Dániel Vásárhelyi handles transportation to Kecskemét, therefore it is not necessary to collect 10 all pieces here.<br /> <br /> == India ==<br /> === Bangalore ===<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sh4r4d sharad]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gadiyar Anand Gadiyar]<br /> * Ankur Arora ''terminus [at] gmail [dot] com''<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kunaldeo Kunal Deo]<br /> * Rishavnath rishavnath@gmail.com<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/libin_v Libin Varghese] (Waiting for the GSM 900 Band)<br /> <br /> === Delhi/NCR ===<br /> Status 2/10<br /> * Sameer Mohamed Thahir [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sameerthahir Contact]<br /> * Pratul Kalia (lut4rp) ''pratulkalia [at] gmail [dot] com''<br /> <br /> === Mumbai [Bombay] ===<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Saurabh Saurabh]<br /> <br /> == Ireland ==<br /> === Dublin ===<br /> To register your interest for the Dublin shipment please post a comment on this [http://patrickoconnor.ie/blog/2008/07/01/openmoko-freerunner-limited-release/ blog post] and enter your details below.<br /> <br /> Status 9/10<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/patchrick Patchrick]<br /> * Karl O'Dwyer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Karl.odwyer Contact Me Here]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonic Sonic]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/s4dd PaulD]<br /> * BOFH [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BOFH, 1xPhone, 1x<br /> DBoard, 1x Spares Pack {2xBatt's and case} =&gt; Email Here]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/onan Onan]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ankhi ankhi]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/seanodonnell seanodonnell]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kernelkhertz Mark R]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/HerraBRE Bjarni R. Einarsson] - 1x phone, 1x dboard<br /> <br /> == Italy == <br /> For more informations and to organize groups, visit the<br /> *[http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''''Italian Freerunner Group Sales Google Group'''''] (ML/Web/Feeds) ([mailto:freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com]).<br /> <br /> '''BUT please keep adding your name and email to the list below'''<br /> <br /> If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the &quot;most requested city&quot;, and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the &quot;double-shipping&quot;. ([http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/10937/focus=10981 Read here for reference]).<br /> <br /> === Toscana ===<br /> ==== Firenze (e dintorni) ====<br /> Status 14/10<br /> <br /> '''''[[GroupSales/Firenze|Wiki organizzativo]]'''''<br /> <br /> * [[User:Treviño|Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]] - [http://blog.3v1n0.net/contatti-trevino/ Contacts here]<br /> * [[User:Niccolo|Niccolo Rigacci]] - ''niccolo [AT] rigacci.org''<br /> * [[User:BiggMatt|Mattia Gentile]] - ''biggmatt@hotmail.it''<br /> * [[User:Sugacapra|Sugacapra]] - ''alessio.chemeri [AT] gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:tom_morello|Carlo Ascani (Morello)]] - ''carlo.ratm [AT] gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:marrano|Stefano Burchietti (Marrano)]] - ''stefano [AT] nontelodiromai.it''<br /> * [[User:Geli86|Matteo Gelimeri X 2 (Imola - Bologna)]] - ''gelimatteo [AT] gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:dcoppa|David Coppa (Borgo a Buggiano, Pistoia)]] - ''dcoppa@gmail.com''<br /> * [[User:Panthack|Dario Panthack Pantani (Pontedera - Pisa)]] - ''panthack2 [AT] tiscali.it''<br /> * [[User:alfatangoxt|Baraglia michele (alfatangoxt)(Vecchiano - Pisa)]] - ( mail ''[mailto:barmike1@tin.it]'') ( msn - ''alfatangoxt@hotmail.it'')<br /> * Francesco Guidi (perino)<br /> * Daniele Andreoli<br /> <br /> Rimossi:<br /> * [[User:pcav|Paolo Cavallini]] - ''cavallini [AT] faunalia.it''<br /> * Elisa ''[mailto:lab@kkk.it lab@kkk.it]'' (Empoli)<br /> <br /> === Lombardia ===<br /> <br /> ==== Milano e dintorni ====<br /> &lt;!--[[GroupSales_Milano_e_dintorni|Organizzazione preliminare]] DEPRECATA lì 11 Maggio 2008.--&gt;<br /> <br /> Per l'organizzazione preliminare interagire sul [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''].<br /> <br /> Ad ogni modo, per stabilire le precedenze nella prenotazione, '''aggiungetevi nella lista qui sotto'''<br /> &lt;!--<br /> ----<br /> <br /> N.B.: Stiamo congelando il primo gruppo. Chi non confermerà la sua intenzione di acquisto sul '''[[GroupSales/Milano|wiki organizzativo]] entro le 00:00 del 3 luglio''', rientrerà automaticamente nel gruppo successivo (da organizzare). Aggiungersi qui sotto '''solo se non interessati al primo gruppo d'acquisto'''.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> --&gt;<br /> <br /> Per il primo gruppo d'acquisto già partito: '''[[GroupSales/Milano|wiki organizzativo]]'''<br /> <br /> ===== Lista degli interessati =====<br /> Numero persone interessate: '''5'''<br /> <br /> Numero FreeRunner: '''5'''<br /> <br /> *'''1-10'''<br /> *# Maxxer [mailto:maxxer@yetopen.it maxxer@yetopen.it] (Lecco)&lt;!--RIMANDATO--&gt;<br /> *# Francesco Leserri - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Francy Contacts here] (Vimercate, MI)<br /> *# [[User:Pietrao| Pietro Isotti]] - [mailto:isottipietro@gmail.com isottipietro@gmail.com]<br /> *# [[User:ndr| Andrea Vago]] - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ndr Contacts here] (Rho, MI)<br /> *# [[User:Kingman| Mattia Borsani]] - [mailto:mattiaborsa3@msn.com mattiaborsa3@msn.com] (Parabiago, MI)<br /> &lt;!--<br /> *'''11-20''' --&gt;<br /> &lt;!--<br /> *'''21-30''' --&gt;<br /> <br /> === Piemonte ===<br /> ==== Torino (and province) ====<br /> Status 10/10<br /> <br /> Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Torino)<br /> <br /> Precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale&lt;br&gt;<br /> *'''Gruppo 1''' (prime persone a fare l'ordine):&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Claudio Carnino (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Alessandro Degano (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Enrico Pigozzi (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here]&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Riccardo Issoglio (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here]&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )&lt;br&gt;<br /> 2 x Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br /> *'''Gruppo 2''' (coloro che non ci stanno nel primo gruppo o che vogliono aspettare che il primo gruppo abbia ricevuto il telefono):&lt;br&gt;<br /> 1 x Marco Forasacco (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> ...&lt;br&gt;<br /> (aggiungersi chi è nuovo)&lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> -------------------------------------<br /> LISTA ORIGINALE (24/05/08 14:48):<br /> * Claudio Carnino &lt;br/&gt; (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)<br /> * Alessandro Degano &lt;br/&gt; (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)<br /> * Enrico Pigozzi &lt;br/&gt; (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)<br /> * Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here]<br /> * Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)<br /> * Riccardo Issoglio &lt;br/&gt; (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)<br /> * Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here]<br /> * Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )<br /> * Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!<br /> * Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com )<br /> * Marco Forasacco &lt;br/&gt; (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)<br /> --------------------------------------<br /> <br /> === Trentino-Alto Adige ===<br /> ==== Trento ====<br /> Status 4/10<br /> <br /> * Vincenzo D'Andrea (vincenzo.dandrea AT gmail DOT com) &lt;br/&gt; (also Verona is OK - and I can carry others' phone VR to TN or viceversa)<br /> * Emanuele Olivetti (emanuele CHIOCCIOLA relativita PUNTO com)<br /> * Marco Ciampa (ciampix (*) libero (*) it)<br /> * Avi Arrigo (aviarrigo AT gmail DOT com)(also Milano is OK)<br /> <br /> === Friuli Venezia Giulia ===<br /> ==== Trieste ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * dorje [mailto:dorje@libero.it dorje@libero.it] - [[User:dorje|dorje]]<br /> <br /> === Veneto ===<br /> <br /> Status: 15/20<br /> <br /> ==== Padova ====<br /> <br /> * Andrea [mailto:nick(at)linux.it nick(at)linux.it ] <br /> <br /> ==== Treviso ====<br /> <br /> * Dario [mailto:aliasbrain@gmail.com aliasbrain(at)gmail.com] - [[User:Rastafan|Rastafan]] &lt;br /&gt;one, maybe two.<br /> <br /> * Pedro [mailto:paguilar@junkerhq.net paguilar(at)junkerhq.net] - [[User:Paguilar|Paguilar]] &lt;br/&gt;Also Padova and Vicenza are ok.<br /> <br /> * mr [mailto:maurizio.rottin@gmail.com maurizio.rottin a-t gmail d-o-t com] - [[User:Mr|Mr]] &lt;br/&gt;one for sure, maybe two<br /> <br /> ==== Venezia ====<br /> <br /> * Tommaso [mailto:tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com] - [[User:Tobarello|Tobarello]] &lt;br /&gt;Also Padova, Vicenza &amp; Trento are ok.<br /> <br /> ==== Verona ====<br /> <br /> * Persegat [mailto:persegat@alice.it persegat@alice.it] - [[User:Pecce|Pecce]]<br /> * Sylar91 [mailto:sylar1991@gmail.com sylar1991@gmail.com] - [[User:Sylar91|Sylar91]]<br /> * Marco Franceschetti - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vonfritz Contacts here]<br /> * AleksFalcone [mailto:aleks.falcone@gmail.com aleks.falcone@gmail.com] - [[User:AleksFalcone|AleksFalcone]]<br /> * Roberto Previdi [mailto:hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com] - [[User:hariseldon78|hariseldon78]] (also Milano is ok)<br /> <br /> ==== Vicenza ====<br /> <br /> * Michele [mailto:michele@cooperativabiosphaera.it michele(at)cooperativabiosphaera.it] - &lt;br /&gt;Also Padova is okay.<br /> <br /> * Paolo [mailto:paolo.sartore@gmail.com paolo.sartore(at)gmail.com]&lt;br /&gt; Also Padova is okay.<br /> <br /> * Renato [mailto:wasgiventofly@gmail.com wasgiventofly AT gmail DOT com]&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> * Sandro [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vigerty contact me here]&lt;br /&gt; Also Padova is okay.<br /> <br /> * Marco [mailto:marco.napetti@linux.it marco.napetti(at)linux.it]&lt;br /&gt; Also Padova and Verona are ok.<br /> <br /> * Alessandro [mailto:bianco@3ska.com bianco@3ska.com]&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> === Emilia Romagna ===<br /> Status : 5/10<br /> <br /> La proposta, accolta da chi segue il google group, e' di attendere la formalizzazione dell'offerta del rivenditore italiano. Se tutto va bene, avremo il freerunner + gadgets i primi di settembre, con 2 anni di garanzia e prezzo allettante.<br /> Per organizzazione: [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales/browse_thread/thread/b872bf8872180d02?hl=it Emilia Romagna - Gruppo d'acquisto] (Delian)<br /> <br /> ==== Parma ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Delian|Marco Albanese]] [mailto:delian2@gmail.com delian2@gmail.com] For Me, it's ok for the decentralized shipment ( Milano for example :) ).<br /> <br /> * [[User:Hachreak|Leonardo Rossi]] ssj3gokou AT libero Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.<br /> <br /> ==== Ravenna ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...). ( se ti vanno bene ambo le citta' basta dirlo tra parentesi. Cosi', si fa confusione :) )<br /> <br /> ==== Bologna ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:nixy_999|Lorenzo]] nixy_999 AT yahoo Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.<br /> * vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...).<br /> * [[User:lord.of.the.dimm|Mauro]] lord.of.the.dimm AT gmail DOT com decentralized shipping: OK.<br /> <br /> === Puglia ===<br /> ==== Lecce ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Morpheus90|Morpheus90]] [mailto:ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com]<br /> * [[User:Italyanker|italyanker]] [mailto:italyanker@gmail.com italyanker@gmail.com]<br /> <br /> ==== Bari ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Fradeve11|Fradeve11]] [mailto:fradeve@ubuntu-it.org fradeve@ubuntu-it.org]<br /> <br /> ==== Taranto ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:SlackMass|SlackMass]] [mailto:rsvmass@tiscali.it rsvmass@tiscali.it]<br /> <br /> === Abruzzo ===<br /> ==== Pescara ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * ZarZ [mailto:zarz25@gmail.com zarz25@gmail.com]<br /> <br /> === Campania ===<br /> ==== Caserta (and province) ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * fenoxxx [mailto:fenoxxx@gmail.com] - Aversa<br /> <br /> === Lazio ===<br /> ==== Roma ====<br /> Status 9/10<br /> <br /> Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Roma)<br /> <br /> La precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> Gruppo 1 (incompleto):&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> * Hire X 2 [mailto:hiretto@gmail.com hiretto@gmail.com] (Roma)<br /> * Darkbasic X 1 [mailto:darkbasic4(at)gmail darkbasic4(at)gmail] (Ancona)<br /> * zione X 1 [mailto:alessio.filipponio@gmail.com alessio.filipponio@gmail.com](Roma)<br /> * AntoMan X 1 [mailto:obe_65@yahoo.it AntoMan](Roma)<br /> * Tempix X 1 [mailto:tempix11@gmail.com tempix11@gmail.com] (Ancona)<br /> * lynx1673 X1 [mailto: acarfi at yahoo dot com] - lynx sei di Roma?<br /> * zullinux X1 [mailto: francesco dot zuliani at gmail dot com] (Roma)<br /> * Lorenzo90 x1 [mailto:lorenzo.catalucci@gmail.com lorenzo.catalucci@gmail.com] (Terni)<br /> <br /> === Liguria ===<br /> ==== Genova ====<br /> Status 5/10<br /> <br /> * Luca Maranzano X 1 (liuk AT linux DOT it) [[User:liuk|liuk]]<br /> * Lorenzo Fornara X 1 (fw1987 AT hotmail DOT it)<br /> * Stefano Cutelle' X 1 (staff@ascservices.it) [[User:ascservices|ascservices]]<br /> * Andrea De Gaetano X 1 (dega1999 AT gmail DOT com) [[User:Dega1999|Dega1999]]<br /> * Salvo Schiavone X 1 (salvoschiavone AT gmail DOT com [[User:Salvador|Salvador]]<br /> <br /> === Sicilia ===<br /> ==== Palermo ====<br /> Status 10/10<br /> <br /> * Giorgio Marciano' X 1 [mailto:giorgio.marciano@email.it giorgio]<br /> * Roberto Calandra X 1 [mailto:isokazi@yahoo.it roberto]<br /> * Vincenzo Moreno Luna X 7 [mailto:ciop85plus@hotmail.com vincenzo]<br /> * Daniele Lupo X 1 [mailto:danwolf80@libero.it daniele]<br /> <br /> ==== Messina ====<br /> Status 6/10<br /> <br /> * Melug X 6 [mailto:suuuper@messinalug.org MeLug]<br /> <br /> === Calabria ===<br /> Status 3/10<br /> <br /> ==== Catanzaro ====<br /> * Carlo Mangani X 1 [mailto:carlo.mangani@gmail.com carlo.mangani@gmail.com] - Lamezia Terme<br /> <br /> ==== Cosenza ====<br /> * Francesco Portus X 1 [mailto:portusgraphics@gmail.com portusgraphics@gmail.com] - Bisignano (Cosenza)<br /> * Silvio Pierro X 1 [mailto:perplesso82@gmail.com perplesso82] - Montalto Uffugo (Cosenza)<br /> <br /> === Sardegna ===<br /> ==== Cagliari ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * Panta x 1 [[User:Panta]]<br /> Viaggio per tutta l'Isola, per cui, nel caso in cui arrivassimo a 10 utenti...<br /> <br /> == Lithuania ==<br /> === Vilnius ===<br /> Status 8/10<br /> * Laurynas Ruškys 7 phones + 2 boards [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crebain Contact me here]<br /> * 1 x Neo FreeRunner, [[Special:Emailuser/Sirex|Mantas Zimnickas]].<br /> <br /> == Macedonia ==<br /> === Skopje ===<br /> Status 1/10<br /> * Kristijan Krsteski 1/10 &lt;br /&gt; [[User:neutrino]] &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:kristijan.krsteski@gmail.com]<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == México ==<br /> === Ciudad de México ===<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * Kozapatista [[Special:Emailuser/User:kozapatista|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Ciudad Victoria ===<br /> Status 3/10<br /> <br /> * 3x Gregorio Toscano [mailto:gtoscano@cinvestav.mx email]<br /> <br /> == [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands The Netherlands] ==<br /> (Discuss this group sale on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands talk page])<br /> <br /> === Special notice ===<br /> After discussion on the talk page, a number of us have decided to place an individual order at Pulster.eu, because they are cheaper than the group sale discount, and they deliver a receipt with VAT.&lt;br /&gt;<br /> I'd advise the people on this group sale-list to do the same. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> You can indeed place a group order at Pulster.eu, but that won't lower the price, and would only add extra shipping costs. (from the person who made the group-order to the individual members of the group) [[User:Madjo|MadJo]] 11:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> * Marijn Kruisselbrink 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mkruisselbrink|Contact]]<br /> * Andy Powell 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ScaredyCat|Contact]]<br /> * Arjan Veenstra 1/10 [[User:AVee]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:AVee|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Gelderland ===<br /> <br /> ==== Nijmegen ====<br /> * [[User:Blalien|Danny Bouwman]] (Ewijk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Blalien|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Nijkerk ====<br /> * [[User:Nicolas|Nico Veenkamp]] (Nijkerk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Nicolas|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Nijmegen ====<br /> * [[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] (Nijmegen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:A.dre|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Groningen ===<br /> <br /> ==== Haren ====<br /> * [[User:akrabbe|Albert Krabbe]] (Haren 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:akrabbe|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Limburg ===<br /> <br /> ==== Griendtsveen ====<br /> * [[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] (Griendtsveen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:KenSentMe|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Noord-Brabant ===<br /> <br /> ==== Eindhoven ====<br /> * Christ van Willegen 1 [[User:ChristW]]<br /> * Jan van Nijnatten 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Javany|Contact]]<br /> * Atilla Filiz 1 + debug board[[Special:Emailuser/User:Atilla|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Noord Holland ===<br /> <br /> ==== Amsterdam ====<br /> * Michel van Horssen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mivaho|Contact]]<br /> * Frank Richter 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:res|Contact]]<br /> * Eric Smith 1/10 [[User:Eric Smith]]<br /> * Buddy Baars 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Budster|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Beverwijk ====<br /> * Theo Martens 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:T_M|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Bussum ====<br /> * Remco van Zuijlen 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:Remco|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Overijssel ===<br /> <br /> ==== Deventer ====<br /> * Jan de Haan 1/10 [[User:Jan de Haan]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:Jan de Haan|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Enschede ====<br /> * Peter Hageman 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:PingPong|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Hengelo ====<br /> * Sander Hoentjen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Tjikkun|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Zwolle ====<br /> * [[User:Boudewijn]] 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Boudewijn|Contact]]: mail me via mailinglist/mailtouser. Ordered via [http://www.pulster.de pulster!]<br /> <br /> === Zuid-Holland ===<br /> <br /> ==== Rijswijk ====<br /> * Fernando Martins 1x [[User:fmartins]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:fmartins|Contact]]<br /> * Igor 1x [[User:igorn]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:igorn|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Zoetermeer ====<br /> * S.Rademaker 1x [[User:S.rademaker]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:S.rademaker|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Rotterdam ====<br /> * Reinout van Schouwen [[User:reinouts]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:reinouts|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Utrecht ===<br /> <br /> ==== Utrecht ====<br /> * Eric Spierings 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ericsp|Contact]]<br /> * Peter van de Werken 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:PWerken|Contact]]<br /> * Kenny van Wanrooij 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:kenneth|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Status ===<br /> 29/30<br /> <br /> == New Zealand ==<br /> ===Networks===<br /> As Telecom are using the 850MHz network for their GSM network, while Vodafone and northelia (possibly aka orcon) are using 900/1800MHz, please state which version you want. This may need more research, I'm not 100%; see [http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml] for more info&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Shipping===<br /> Based on the Openmoko direct store, shipping is US$258.05 (US$25.81/phone)<br /> <br /> Someone on the community list suggested using [http://www.myus.com], a shipping company that will re-post items overseas at decent rates. They claim US$66 for a 3kg package, or NZ$8 per phone. Of course, the cost of shipping the phone from OM to the shipping company has to be added in as well.<br /> <br /> ===Purchase cost===<br /> As of 2008-07-03 (exchange rate 0.7505), US$369 is worth NZ$492 and US$25.81 is worth NZ$34.39<br /> <br /> ===Duty/taxes/other charges===<br /> import duty on mobile phones is 0%[http://www.customs.govt.nz/importers/Private+Importers/Customs+Charges.htm], and GST is 12.5% so the GST added to each phone will be NZ$65.80; 12.5% * (492 + 34.39), 'cause we pay GST on postage too...<br /> <br /> You'll also need to add on disbursement fees etc. If it's UPS it's not too bad (~NZ$40) if it comes through NZ Post then it can be ~NZ$120.<br /> <br /> So, the total cost of a Freerunner as part of a 10 pack, will be:&lt;br&gt;<br /> 492 + 34.39 + 65.80 = NZ$592.19 + NZ$4 = '''~NZ$596'''<br /> <br /> + any possible charges to get it posted elsewhere in New Zealand.<br /> <br /> Also, for the person buying, don't forget that there is likely charges from VISA for foreign exchange. ASB is 2.1% of the purchase price which will add ~$12.50 ea. to the price.<br /> <br /> '''[http://nicegear.co.nz nicegear]''' may be bringing some in depending on pricing from OpenMoko.<br /> <br /> === Auckland ===<br /> ==== [[Auckland group sales|Auckland]] ====<br /> Status:10 phones requested, the required minimum (10 phones) is reached, but more buyers are still welcome to join.&lt;br&gt;<br /> 13/20&lt;br&gt;<br /> =====Intermediary=====<br /> Glen ogilvie made a suggestion, that we could use a company (e.g. someone's employer, who are likely to have easily found contact details and thus be trustworthy) to buy the phones on our behalf (after we'd paid for them), and then deliver them to us. &lt;br&gt;<br /> any volunteers? do any of you have understanding bosses/your own company that could help out here?&lt;br&gt;<br /> Dave Lane: I think '''[http://egressive.com Egressive]''' would be willing to act as an intermediary. Contact me to discuss it...&lt;br/&gt;<br /> <br /> *Paul Sandkuijl [[User:Edictor]]<br /> Having contacted all the below people who have said they were interested, we only got 6 emails back from people. We need 4 more and we can put in our order. Please [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edictor Contact me here] so that we can get this order underway...<br /> <br /> === Purchaser List ===<br /> *Rob Paulson [[User:Myfanwy]] [mailto:robin.paulson@gmail.com] 900MHz<br /> **i'm quite happy to organise the purchase, if no-one has any objections. to ease any worries about me running off with the money, we could use an escrow service such as [http://safetrader.co.nz], or paypal. or does anyone have any other ideas?<br /> *Simon Wells [[User:Swel024]] 900MHz<br /> *Jeremy List [[User:Jeremy-list]] mailto:quick.dudley@gmail.com (Wellington, not Auckland, will pay for courier) 900MHz<br /> *David Murrell [[User:Viddy]] - [mailto:dmurrell@waikato.ac.nz] I'm in Hamilton, either courier, or I'll drive up :) 900MHz<br /> *Jeremy Gray [[User:Bogdan237]] [mailto:jgra163@ec.auckland.ac.nz] Auckland, 900MHz<br /> *Paul Roe [[User:Par08]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Par08 contact me here] Christchurch, 2 x 900MHz<br /> *Dave Lane [[User:dangerpossum]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dangerpossum contact] Christchurch, 1 x 900MHz + 1800MHz GSM<br /> *Paul Hunkin [[User:paulhunkin]] [mailto:pwh4@cs.waikato.ac.nz Contact] Hamilton (I'll pay for a courier), 1 x 900MHz.<br /> *Paul Sandkuijl [[User:Edictor]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edictor Contact me here] Napier (I'll pay for postage to Napier from Auckland) and I also suggest a PayPal/Safetrader similar service, 1 Vodafone compatible 900/1800MHz.<br /> *Brent Wood [[User:pcreso]] [mailto:pcreso@pcreso.com Email] Wellington. Will pay courier to Wgtn. 1x Vodafone compatible 900/1800Mhz unit<br /> *Glen Ogilvie [[User:Nelg]] [mailto:nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz Email] Auckland, 1x Vodafone compatible 900Mhz.<br /> <br /> === Wellington ===<br /> ==== [[Wellington group sales|Wellington]] ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> *Andrew Stephen [[User:lizardb0y]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lizardb0y email me] Wellington, 1 x 900/1800Mhz GSM Vodafone compatible.<br /> <br /> == Norway ==<br /> === Nordland ===<br /> ==== Bodø ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:AlecTBM|Alexander Frøyseth]] [mailto:alexander.froyseth@gmail.com alexander.froyseth@gmail.com]<br /> * Ole Marius<br /> * Stian Vading<br /> * [[User:Kolbjorn.Dahle|Kolbjorn Dahle]][mailto:kolbjorn@dahlenett.org]<br /> <br /> === Sør-Trøndelag ===<br /> ==== Trondheim ====<br /> Status 16/20<br /> <br /> *[[User:andy000|Andreas Kalvå]] [mailto:andy@samfundet.no andy@samfundet.no]<br /> Send mail om du er interessert.<br /> <br /> === Østlandet ===<br /> ==== Oslo, Akershus, Buskerud, Vestfold ====<br /> Status: 30/?? &lt;br/&gt;<br /> 30/30 er bestilt via [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] &lt;br/&gt;<br /> ingen har påtatt seg å bestille inn flere, men det er etterspørsel etter fler.<br /> <br /> * [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] [mailto:heikkis@matnat.uio.no] &lt;br/&gt; (30/30) FULT! Ta likevel kontakt for veiledning. <br /> * [[User:StianEllingsen|Stian Ellingsen]]<br /> <br /> ==== Østfold ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:MrBlonde|Petter Nygård]] [mailto:pettnyg@frisurf.no] &lt;br /&gt;Interessert? -&gt; Mail meg....<br /> * Eirik Lavik<br /> <br /> === Vestlandet ===<br /> ==== Bergen ====<br /> Status 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:alastairj|Alastair Jenkins]] [mailto:alastair.jenkins@gfi.uib.no]<br /> <br /> == Philippines ==<br /> band: [http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_ph.shtml GSM 900/1800, 3G 2100]<br /> <br /> status:[http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner GSM 900 variant sold out], new stocks due July 25, 2008<br /> <br /> buyer list (1/10):<br /> * [[User:rickynite|Ricky Nite]] [mailto:ricky.nite@gmail.com]: 1 [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner Neo FreeRunner], 1 [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/dboard DBoard], 1 [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/spares-pack Spares pack]<br /> <br /> see: [http://archives.free.net.ph/thread/20080711.040657.c6d7a53b.en.html#20080711.040657.c6d7a53b PLUG thread]<br /> <br /> == Poland ==<br /> <br /> * Special group buy site: http://www.kumulator.pl/show/12 (in edition moment: 9/10)<br /> <br /> == Portugal ==<br /> Portuguese (15/20) who are associates of ANSOL, please consider joining [[TeamANSOL]] (currently 5/10 members).<br /> <br /> Shop is open (currently only 850MHz version available. We want 900MHz): Shipping cost to Portugal for 10-pack: $219.07, ~14 EUR per device.<br /> <br /> We also need to have a cost estimation for Portuguese customs (like the Australians did). 20% sales tax + customs tax is to be expected both for individual or bulk sales, because the price is quite high. But freedom is priceless :)<br /> <br /> [[User:Ruben|Ruben Mendes]] is coordinating the group buy. If you are interested get in touch with him.<br /> <br /> === Aveiro ===<br /> ==== Aveiro ====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * 2 x [[User:Ruben|Ruben Mendes]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * Tiago Brites<br /> * Marcos Monteiro<br /> <br /> === Lisboa ===<br /> ==== Lisboa ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Danielblues Daniel Branco]<br /> * [[User:Pedrosilva|Pedro Silva]]<br /> * Ricardo Sousa ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * [[User:RuiSeabra|Rui Seabra]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasco Vasco Névoa]<br /> * [[User:Jcanelas|José Canelas]]<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Brunus Bruno Valentim]<br /> * José Esteves ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> * [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lothar_m Bruno Lopes]<br /> <br /> === Porto ===<br /> ==== Porto ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:villate|Jaime Villate]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br /> <br /> == Sweden ==<br /> We have a google group for discussion about a possible Swedish group order: freerunner-sverige@googlegroups.com, see [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-sverige Svensk Gruppbeställning av Freerunner]. Please join the discussion!<br /> <br /> If insufficient number of people, orders could be merged and remailed perhaps.<br /> <br /> Domestic remailing with Posten as A-class mail of a letter (criteria: length+width+height max 900 mm) weighing max 1 kg, without insurance should [http://www.posten.se/foretag/vara_tjanster/postageguide/postguideLetterDom.jspv cost 44 SEK]. 50 SEK more for insurance.<br /> <br /> If we end up with more than one 10-pack in Sweden, my guess is that it would probably pay to order everything in one shipment to one address in Sweden to save on the international shipping, and then remail domestically.<br /> <br /> === Götaland ===<br /> ==== Göteborg ====<br /> <br /> * [[User:Fwendt|Fredrik Wendt]] [[Special:Emailuser/Fwendt|Contact]]/wendt.se<br /> <br /> ==== Malmö ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * Lars Jarlvik &lt;br /&gt; mailto:lars@larsfactory.se<br /> <br /> === Svealand ===<br /> ==== Stockholm ====<br /> Status : 6/10<br /> <br /> * Adam Johansson &lt;br /&gt; <br /> * Lowe Schmidt &lt;br /&gt; mailto:lowe.schmidt@gmail.com<br /> * Johan Erlands &lt;br /&gt; mailto:johan.erlands@gmail.com<br /> * [[User:Joel | Joel Metelius ]] [[Special:Emailuser/Joel | (contact)]] 1 phone + 1 debug (if possible)<br /> * Peter Wihlner &lt;br /&gt; mailto:info@faktor.nu<br /> <br /> ==== Örebro ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * Anders Petersson &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:demitar@worldforge.org demitar@worldforge.org]<br /> <br /> ==== Västerås ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> * Jörgen Lidholm, could join the Falun/Borlänge or Stockholm group &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:jorgen.lidholm@gmail.com]<br /> * John Törnblom, can also join the Stockholm group &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:f04jto@student.lth.se]<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> === Norrland ===<br /> ==== Umeå ====<br /> Status : 2/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:Benjamin|Benjamin]] [[Special:Emailuser/Benjamin|Contact]]<br /> <br /> ==== Luleå ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * [[User:mh|mh]] 1 unit, mailto:mh@rcc.se If not up to 10 by launch. i'd join any group and either pick it up or have it remailed nationally<br /> <br /> == Switzerland ==<br /> <br /> 1x 10 Pack ordered from pulster for the group Zürich! Read more below --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 17:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''???''' should organize the 3 x 10pack for Zürich &lt;br /&gt;<br /> Luca Capello could organize the 10pack for Geneva. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> Mathieu will organisze the 2 x 10pack for Lausanne EPFL CH-fr &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> All payment in advance (a 10pack will cost approx 3'800 USD). &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> '''Probably we will organize shippings, if we cannot all move to Zürich/Genève/Lausanne to get our Neo.'''<br /> <br /> ''François Bianco is trying to create a new group of 10 (will be mostly for French Switzerland). -&gt; The group moved to the EPFL group, which will try to reach 20 persons. --[[User:Fbianco|Fbianco]] 11:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)''&lt;br /&gt;<br /> ''Gabriel Ambuehl would volunteer to order the initial 10pack. &lt;- still accurate ? -&gt; Gabriel will not organize the 10packs for Zürich due to not being in Switzerland. We are in contact to find a solution so please wait until we know what to do. Order in Germany (each for himself or as a group, not clear yet) could be as cheap as a 10pack. We are in contact with pulster.de and will be contacted form pulster about the price. We will contact you guys in the Zürich list as soon as we know more --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 10:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)''&lt;br /&gt;<br /> ''Alexandre Ghisoli will not organize the second 10pack, since the order moved in the Lucca's group.'' &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> === Customs and Postage ===<br /> I called the [http://www.ezv.admin.ch/index.html?lang=en Swiss Federal Customs Administration] and it seems that we only need to pay VAT (7.6%) and the UPS taxes as well (since the parcel will be sent through UPS). Thus I called [http://www.ups.com/content/ch/en/contact/ UPS] and it seems that UPS directly pays the VAT instead of the customer, then asking the customer for refund (plus a fixed tax of EUR13.00). So I think the following per-phone cost for a Swiss bulk order should be a good estimate.<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot;<br /> |'''Bulk Order'''<br /> |'''USD'''<br /> |'''CHF'''<br /> |-<br /> |Customs Value (Cval)<br /> |3690.00<br /> |3837.60<br /> |-<br /> |Postage<br /> |160.00<br /> |166.40<br /> |-<br /> |Value of Taxable Importation (VoTI) = Cval+Postage<br /> |3850.00<br /> |4004.00<br /> |-<br /> |VAT = 7.6% of VoTI<br /> |292.60<br /> |304.30<br /> |-<br /> |UPS fixed tax (EUR13.00)<br /> |20.00<br /> |20.80<br /> |-<br /> |Total Cost<br /> |4162.60<br /> |4329.10<br /> |-<br /> |'''Per Person'''<br /> |'''416.26'''<br /> |'''432.91'''<br /> |}<br /> <br /> Figures accurate as of 4th Jun 2008 from [http://www.ubs.com/1/e/index/bcqv/calculator.html UBS]: 1EUR = 1.54USD and 1USD = 1.04CHF.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ==== Shipping ====<br /> If we would ship Neos, here is the Swiss PostPac prices :<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> ! Description<br /> ! Size [cm]<br /> ! Price CHF TTC<br /> |-<br /> | Size 1<br /> | 22.9 x 14.7 x 9.9<br /> | 2.20<br /> |-<br /> | Size 2<br /> | 31.5 x 22.5 x 12.5<br /> | 2.40<br /> |-<br /> | Shipping Priority<br /> | up to 2Kg<br /> | 8.-<br /> |-<br /> | Shipping Economy<br /> | up to 2Kg<br /> | 6.-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> Steve posted informations about boxes that will be out with Neo :<br /> <br /> * 10 pack : 435mm x 371mm x 119mm, approx 3kg, UPS will charge 160USD (need to be verified)<br /> * Individual pack : 178mm x 104mm x 84mm, 237 grams<br /> <br /> So size 1 will fit ! Local delivery in Switzerland will cost 8.20 for Economy or 10.20 Priority.<br /> <br /> ==== Zurich ====<br /> <br /> ===== Pulster.de order (already ordered and on their way!) =====<br /> I organized already an order from Pulster.de due to the best conditions:<br /> * 299 Euro - 19% German sales tax = 249 Euro<br /> * 249 Euro + 7,6% Swiss sales tax<br /> * evtl. some border taxes<br /> * no shipping costs! (pulster sends for free)<br /> * 2 Years warranty<br /> <br /> The conditions to get a device from me:<br /> * As soon as I have them i will contact you<br /> * You pick up your device in Winterthur<br /> * You pay me cash (you will not get a device before I have the money in my hands)<br /> * You bring the correct amount of money (I can't give return)<br /> * I will _not_ raise the price for my profit. You pay what I pay<br /> <br /> So add yourself to the list here if you want one:&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Status : 10/10 -&gt; full &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Esra Kummer (3 Geräte!) (Winterthur)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tuxfux.ch Contact]<br /> * Simon Wenner (Schaffhausen)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nowic Contact]<br /> * Markus Huggler (Winterthur)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]<br /> * Simon Schreiber (Zurich) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]<br /> * Hannes Wyss (Zurich) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]<br /> * Felix Rabe (Basel/Romanshorn) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Felixrabe Contact]<br /> * Carlos Diener (Winterthur) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Emonkey Contact]<br /> * Walter Sutter (Winterthur) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Seraphim Contact]<br /> <br /> Status : 11/30 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''Contact person who order the 10Pack : ??'''<br /> <br /> * Andre Timmermann &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]<br /> * Pascal Weller &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]<br /> * Nick Zbinden (Luzern)&lt;br /&gt; [mailto:nickik@gmx.ch] oder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nickik Contact]<br /> * Marcel Lütolf (Luzern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/NeRo Contact]<br /> * Mirko Klingauf &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/RealAtaman Contact]<br /> * Martin Kos &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KoS Contact]<br /> * Joerg Maeder (Opfikon) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/goergel Contact]<br /> * Philipp Hug (St. Gallen) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Philipphug Contact]<br /> * Tropechopf (Luzern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tropechopf Contact]<br /> * Alex Ingold (Interlaken)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ingoldey Contact]<br /> * Alex Aeschlimann (Bern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alexae Contact]<br /> <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Basel-Stadt ====<br /> <br /> ===== Pulster.de order (Adrian Rudin) =====<br /> I will organize one order like Tuxfux.ch did.<br /> * 299 Euro - 19% German sales tax + 7,6% Swiss sales tax = 270.4 Euro<br /> * 270.4 Euro * 1.68 = 454.3 CHF<br /> * I chose a higher change value to inlcude border charges, everything that's left will be donated to Wikimedia.<br /> * no shipping costs! (pulster sends for free)<br /> * 2 Years warranty<br /> * For people in Bern: Lorenz Schori would pick up your devices as well an distribute them to you in Bern.<br /> <br /> The conditions to get a device from me:<br /> * You have to pay in advance, please send me an E-Mail to receive account informations.<br /> * As soon as I have all 10 payments I will order the 10 pack<br /> * Please pay as fast as possible, I won't order till I got all the payments!<br /> * You pick up your device in Basel, 1 or 2 exceptions can be made!<br /> * I raised the price to include border charges, everything not used for the order will be donated to Wikimedia.<br /> <br /> So add yourself to the list here if you want one:&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Status : 10/10 (#: have payed)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * # Adrian Rudin (Basel) [mailto:adrian@mav.ch] or [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/blackmav Contact]<br /> * # Thomas Jund (Aarau) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/none Contact]<br /> * # Peter Salvisberg (Wettingen) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Psal Contact]<br /> * Christian Corrodi [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matto Contact]<br /> * Lorenz Schori (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Znerol Contact]<br /> * Philipp Meier (Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/PhilippMeier Contact]<br /> * Mathias Born (Bern)<br /> * Pascal Mages (Bern/Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/FreeMind Contact]<br /> * Marcel Jost (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Onsonic Contact]<br /> * Marcel Wirth (Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Skarhand Contact] <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== Geneve ====<br /> Status : 10/10 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''Contact person who order the 10Pack : Luca Capello &lt;br /&gt;'''<br /> WARNING, this list already contains 10 people! -- LucaCapello<br /> <br /> * Diego Abelenda&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Aelia Contact]<br /> * Luca Capello&lt;br /&gt; [mailto:luca@pca.it]<br /> * Nicolas Produit&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Produit Contact]<br /> * Sebastien Nanchen &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sn Contact]<br /> * Matthieu de Montmollin &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matthieudem Contact]<br /> * Robin Farine (Auvernier)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rfarine Contact]<br /> * Alexandre Ghisoli (Yverdon)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Agh Contact]<br /> * Raphael Studer (Thurgau) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tschudder Contact]<br /> * Christian Wäckerlin &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/boognu Contact]<br /> * Michael Stähli (Lausanne EPFL) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/adler Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== Suisse romande / Lausanne (EPFL) ====<br /> Status : 25/30 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''Contact person who order the 10Packs : [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Mathieu Habegger] &lt;br /&gt;'''<br /> <br /> * Mathieu Habegger (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Contact]<br /> * Matthias Brändli (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hb9egm Contact]<br /> * Frédéric Fokan(Lausanne) &lt;br /&gt;[mailto:fredericfokan@gmail.com Contact]<br /> * Gulu (Lausanne) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gulu Contact]<br /> * Edomaur (Lausanne, with Gulu) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edomaur Contact]<br /> * Layx (Lausanne) &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Layx Contact]<br /> * Mélanie Baumann (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/calis Contact]<br /> * Laurent Fasnacht (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://gnugeneration.epfl.ch/users/fasnacht Contact]<br /> * Urs Blaser (UNIL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/arctus Contact]<br /> * David Lütolf (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dlutolf Contact]<br /> * François Bianco &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/fbianco Contact]<br /> * Samuel Dorsaz &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/akira Contact]<br /> * Ludovic Fardel (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lfardel Contact]<br /> * David Pelichet &lt;br /&gt;Contact via hb9egm&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Vincent Hentsch &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vincos Contact]<br /> * Carruzzo Gilles &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Willows Contact]<br /> * Nicolas Favrod-Coune &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nfavrod Contact]<br /> * Mathias Coinchon &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Coinchon Contact]&lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Rey Cyril (Monthey) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cyril Contact]<br /> * Didier Raboud (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OdyX Contact]<br /> * Claude Angéloz &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/claude-elrond740 Contact]<br /> * Pascal Bach (EPFL) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Anakron Contact]<br /> * Nicolas Etienne (Gimel) &lt;br /&gt;[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nice Contact]<br /> * Michel Dänzer (Bern)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrCooper Contact]<br /> * Yvon-Philippe Crittin&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/y-phil Contact]<br /> * Philippe Gimmel&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kampfgarten Contact]<br /> <br /> Persons who went lonely orders :<br /> * Philipp Aeberli (2 Units, Gland)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/philgood Contact]<br /> <br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> '''''The list was extended to 30'''''&lt;br /&gt;<br /> 3 are still remaining !&lt;br /&gt;''--[[User:Habi|Habi]] 11:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==== Suisse romande / Morges ====<br /> <br /> I'll order a pack for Switzerland people. The price of FreeRunner will be 460 CHF all inclusive (VAT and shipping in your post box)<br /> Contact me here: [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jecuendet Contact] if you want one.<br /> We are already 6, so 4 remaining. Contact me at : jec at jesc dot ch<br /> <br /> == Spain ==<br /> === Spain (Country Group Sale) ===<br /> Status: 23/30<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/IberiaGroupSale España-Portugal group Sale via pulster.com]<br /> <br /> ordering 23 July<br /> <br /> === Madrid ===<br /> ==== Madrid ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MadridGroupSale Madrid Group Sale update (payment, shipment, etc)]<br /> <br /> Ordering aprox. 15th July<br /> <br /> Local delivery in central Madrid<br /> <br /> * 5 phones Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz (Group manager) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Pabloruiz contact me here URGENTLY!]<br /> <br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Carlos Padilla Sorbas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:cymonline contact me here]<br /> <br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Troy|Alvaro Garcia Roy]] 1 phone<br /> <br /> * [[User:peeloo | Alexandre Girard]] 1 phone<br /> <br /> People that cancelled their commitment for now:<br /> <br /> * 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Rafael Campos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Methril Contact] &lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> * [[User:kresp0 | Santiago Crespo]] 1 phone<br /> <br /> Vacancies for the scheduled order: 2<br /> <br /> Possible reason for cancelling order: being sure that the 850/1800MHz unit won't work correctly in Spain despite the use of 1800 MHz. Investigation in progress.<br /> <br /> === Barcelona ===<br /> ==== Barcelona ====<br /> Status : 10/10<br /> WARNING, this list already contains 10 people!<br /> <br /> * José Luis Pérez &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/jluis|Contact]]<br /> * David Reyes Samblas Martinez&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/mutrox|Contact]]<br /> * Sergio Arias &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/saerguio|Contact]]<br /> * Alex Muntada &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/alexm|Contact]]<br /> * Pascal co &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/pascalco|Contact]]<br /> * Antonio Rodríguez ( x2 )&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/AntonioR|Contact]]<br /> * Miquel Adell Borràs &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/Hanoc|Contact]]<br /> * Arturo Giner&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/artginer|Contact]]<br /> * Robert Millan&lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/rmh|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Valencia ===<br /> ==== Valencia ====<br /> Status : 1/10<br /> <br /> * Pau Gaspar Díaz &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/pau|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Islas Canarias ===<br /> ==== Tenerife ====<br /> Status : 4/10<br /> <br /> * Enrique Hernández Bello &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/SiNiESTrO|Contact]]<br /> * Alberto Morales Díaz &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/amd77|Contact]]<br /> * Teresa González de la Fe &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/Tgdelafe|Contact]]<br /> * Jesús Torres &lt;br/&gt;[[Special:Emailuser/Aplatanado|Contact]]<br /> <br /> == UAE ==<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Yaser Ammar &lt;br /&gt; [[Special:Emailuser/Waraqa|Contact]]<br /> <br /> == USA ==<br /> === Arizona ===<br /> ==== Tucson ====<br /> Willing to reship to nonlocal people within the US (cheaper if you're closer), or get absorbed into another group that's willing to reship. In talks with Boulder (Colorado) group.<br /> <br /> Status: 3/10<br /> * [mailto:wes.shull@gmail.com wesshull] Wes Shull - 1x GTA02 + 1x debug board<br /> * Richard Reichenbacher - 2x GTA02<br /> <br /> === Colorado ===<br /> ==== Boulder ====<br /> Status: 10/10<br /> * Vinc Duran x2 (I can purchase and distribute locally) &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:uberpfloyd@gmail.com?subject=Openmoko%20group%20sales Pfloyd] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pfloyd Contact]<br /> * John Miller &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jwm jwm]<br /> * D Padilla &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * Joey Stanford &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/k0fcc k0fcc]<br /> * J Hinegardner &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jjh jjh]<br /> * S Derrick of New Mexico x2 &lt;br /&gt;<br /> * R Schwarz &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rschwarz rschwarz]<br /> <br /> ==== Denver (Full) ====<br /> Status: 10/10 (includes the gentleman from Utah)<br /> * Shawn Sullivan &lt;br /&gt; [[mailto:shelbydz87@yahoo.com shelbydz87@yahoo.com]]<br /> * Peter Abplanalp &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alderion Contact]<br /> * Ben Burdette &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ansible Contact]<br /> * Tom Russell &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tazbert Contact]<br /> * Trace &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gnork Contact]<br /> * Michael Irons &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/iron999mike Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== Fort Collins ====<br /> Status: 1/10<br /> * Paul Hummer &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rockstar Contact]<br /> <br /> === California ===<br /> ==== Los Angeles ====<br /> Status: 10/10<br /> <br /> * Ian Douglas, Santa Monica &lt;br /&gt; I'll help organize a group sale, meet &amp; greet, but since I was selected to help test the Freerunner, I won't need to actually purchase one. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iandouglas Contact me here]<br /> * Matthew Wetmore, Westchester 90045 &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wetmoko Contact]<br /> * Daniel, Torrance &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Beaker82 Contact]<br /> * James Robertson, Irvine &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JamesRobertson Contact]<br /> * Bill Sun &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/DancingSun Contact]<br /> * Michael, Santa Monica &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bstudios Contact]<br /> * Russel Dwiggins, Cerritos &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/undrwater Contact]<br /> * Dima, Pasadena &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dima Contact]<br /> * Mike, Santa Monica (1 unit + 1 debug board)&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Traveler Contact]<br /> * Joe Smith, Orange &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Yasumoto Contact]<br /> * Jose Torres, Hollywood &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jtorres Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== San Diego ====<br /> <br /> Status: 10/10 - full<br /> <br /> Includes North County, Riverside, Tijuana, etc. 10 pack has been ordered. <br /> <br /> * Peter Naulls, Carlsbad (South)/Mira Mesa (near Qualcomm) - will coordinate - contact me for details.&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pnaulls Contact]<br /> * Tracy Reed &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/treed Contact]<br /> * Paul Breed &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbreed Contact]<br /> * Greg Davidson &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JGregD Contact]<br /> * Larry Riedel &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:Larry@Riedel.org Contact]<br /> * David Wilhelm &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bluefir Contact]<br /> * Jim McLaughlin - could move to LA group if needed as other company office is near LAX&lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rpq Contact]<br /> * Adam Hughes &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ajinxa Contact]<br /> * Rob Walker &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/RobWalker Contact]<br /> * Brian S. Dobrovodsky &lt;br /&gt; [mailto:bsdvodsky@gmail.com Contact]<br /> <br /> Status: 1/10<br /> <br /> * Urivan Flores &lt;br /&gt; [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/saaib Contact]<br /> <br /> ==== San Francisco Bay Area ====<br /> (Discuss this group sale, pickup and payments on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#San_Francisco_Bay_Area talk page])<br /> <br /> The 10 pack is here! I'll send emais out and update the talkpage with the details for a meetup.<br /> <br /> Bring US $396.66 ($369 + $26.753 tax + $0.907 shipping) cash (no checks) for pickup. I'll try to make a copy of the receipt for everyone.<br /> <br /> Status: 10/10 Full<br /> <br /> * Dirk Bergstrom - (picked up) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krid Contact]<br /> <br /> * William Ray Yeager - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/wyeager Contact]<br /> <br /> * Jim Morris - (organizer) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/wolfmanjm Contact]<br /> <br /> * Brian Carver - (picked up) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/brianwc Contact]<br /> <br /> * Cry Regarder (3 units) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cry_Regarder Contact]<br /> <br /> * Paul Mahon - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dufflebunk Contact] (San Jose)<br /> <br /> * ken restivo - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kenrestivo Contact]<br /> <br /> * Kelley Eitzen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xeromist Contact]<br /> <br /> Status 5/10<br /> * Anton Bogdanov - (Cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vahi Contact] (San Francisco)<br /> <br /> * Tupshin Harper - (Not confirmed) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tupshin Contact]<br /> <br /> * Sebastian Coe - (Not confirmed) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savari Contact]<br /> <br /> * Jim Lutz - (Not confirmed) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JLutz Contact]<br /> <br /> * Elektrolott - (Cash, 900MHz) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Elektrolott Contact] (San Jose). &lt;br&gt; I am back on the list, as the [http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner online store] says: GSM 900Mhz variant stock is due on on July 25th. &lt;br&gt;I am also interested in getting a debug board.<br /> <br /> === Florida ===<br /> ==== South/Central Florida ====<br /> Status 3/10<br /> * 1 x Jonathan Howard [[Special:Emailuser/kingtgaurd9|Contact]], Orlando <br /> * 1 x Jim [[Special:Emailuser/gumbukie|Contact]], Orlando<br /> * 1 x Lenny Markus [[Special:Emailuser/lensam69|Contact]], Miami<br /> <br /> === Idaho ===<br /> ==== Southwestern Idaho ====<br /> Status 2/10<br /> * 1 × Eugene Kravtsov [[Special:Emailuser/theUg|Contact]], Garden City (Boise).<br /> * 1 × Christopher Blay [[Special:Emailuser/blayde|Contact]], Twin Falls.<br /> <br /> === Midwest ===<br /> '''(combine Illinois / Iowa / Tennesee / Texas / Wisconsin)'''<br /> Status: 10/10<br /> * Steven M [[Special:Emailuser/Montgoss|Contact]] - Cedar Rapids, IA<br /> * Joseph Booker [[Special:Emailuser/Sargas|Contact]] - Chicago, IL<br /> * Matt McCormick [[Special:Emailuser/Thewtex|Contact]] - Madison, WI<br /> * Charles Hill [mailto:charles.e.hill@gmail.com email] - Chicago, IL<br /> * Greg Bonett [mailto:greg@bonett.org email] - Iowa City, IA<br /> * Tushar Dayal [mailto:tdayal@gmail.com Contact] - Ames, IA<br /> * solomon jacob herscovitch [[Special:Emailuser/SoloSalsa|Contact]] - Chicago, IL<br /> * Eric Olson [mailto:ericools@gmail.com Contact] - Madison, WI<br /> * Tom Watson [[Special:Emailuser/Toggles|Contact]] - Pittsburgh, PA<br /> * An-Phong Le [mailto:an427@hotmail.com Contact] - Urbana, IL<br /> * Ed Marshall [[Special:Emailuser/Logic|Contact]] - Aurora, IL<br /> <br /> === Kentucky === <br /> (Possibly + 2 from Memphis?)<br /> Status: 8/10 (Possibly 10?)<br /> * Dan Staley [[Special:Emailuser/Pyrasi|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * Donnie Jones [[Special:Emailuser/Donniejones18|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * John Sterling [[Special:Emailuser/Sterling|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * James MacLachlan [[Special:Emailuser/Jmaclachlan|Contact]] (Louisville, KY)<br /> * John Askew [[Special:Emailuser/Johnaskyou|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * Devin Cook [[Special:Emailuser/Dcook|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> * Geoff Ruscoe [[Special:Emailuser/Geocode|Contact]] - Louisville, KY<br /> * Jon Howard [[Special:Emailuser/Jchoward|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br /> <br /> === Ohio / Michigan ===<br /> Status: 11/10 (As of July 4&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;, 2008)<br /> * David Pais (Unknown City) [mailto:davioh2001@yahoo.com email] (Unresponsive)<br /> * Dave Ludlow (Toledo) (I can purchase and distribute) [[Special:Emailuser/adsllc|Contact]] (Confirmed)<br /> * Adam Steele (Cincinnati) [mailto:adam@laurasteele.net Contact] (Payment Received - Confirmed)<br /> * Elliot Bailey (Canton) [mailto:elliot.bailey@yahoo.com Contact] (Payment Received - Confirmed)<br /> * Richard Rowell (Grand Rapids) [mailto:richard.rowell@gmail.com Contact] (Payment NOT Received)<br /> * [[Special:Emailuser/Linuxpaul|Paul Wehr]] Ann Arbor (Payment NOT Received)<br /> * Micah Krafcik (Youngstown) [mailto:mjk20xx@yahoo.com Contact] (Payment Received - Confirmed)<br /> * Doug Wurtzbacher (Centerville) x2 [mailto:doug@medicineshoppekett.com Contact] (Payment Received - Confirmed)<br /> * Martin Dicks (Columbus) [[Special:Emailuser/mdicks|Contact]] (Payment NOT Received)<br /> * Tom Reed (Toledo) (Payment Received - Confirmed)<br /> <br /> The 10-pack purchase was made around 9A on July 3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; - they are on the way!<br /> There are 11 requests for 10 phones - they will be assigned in the order that payment clears.<br /> <br /> === Pacific Northwest ===<br /> ==== Oregon ====<br /> Status: 3/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Washington group) <br /> ===== Eugene =====<br /> * Quentin Hartman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/qhartman|Contact]] Willing to organize the Oregon group buy and/or be absorbed into another Pacific NW group if too few locals sign up.<br /> ===== Corvallis =====<br /> * Brian Wilson (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Brian_H_Wilson|Contact]] (in Corvallis actually)<br /> * Gary Oliver (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Adastra|Contact]] Also in Corvallis.<br /> <br /> ==== Washington ====<br /> ===== Seattle Area =====<br /> Status: 7/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Oregon group)<br /> * Jon Pomeroy (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Jepomeroy|Contact]]<br /> * Chris Baker (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/cwainb|Contact]]<br /> * Mark Zimmerman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mawazi|Contact]]<br /> * Wim Lewis (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Wiml|Contact]] In Wallingford.<br /> * Charles Wheeler (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/SnowWolf75|Contact]] Note: Work in Bellevue, live in Federal Way. May not have money till mid-July.<br /> * G.O. (Status confirmed) I'd like to get @ least one.<br /> * Matt Luzum (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mluzum|Contact]]<br /> <br /> === Tennessee ===<br /> ==== Memphis ====<br /> Status: 2/10<br /> * Peter O'Connor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/poconnor Contact]<br /> * Jarvis Stubblefield (Prefer with Debug) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BallisticPain Contact]<br /> <br /> === Texas ===<br /> ==== Austin (15/10) ====<br /> * Dale Schumacher [[Special:Emailuser/dalnefre|Contact]]<br /> * Michael Cosby [[Special:Emailuser/mcosby|Contact]]<br /> * Paul Jimenez [[Special:Emailuser/pj|Contact]]<br /> * Charles [[Special:Emailuser/rbn|Contact]]<br /> * Anthony Kitchin [[Special:Emailuser/akitchin|Contact]]<br /> * Carl (x2) [[Special:Emailuser/texatopia|Contact]]<br /> * Robert (+Debug Board) [[Special:Emailuser/SHaRK|Contact]] (Houston)<br /> * Bryan DeLuca [[Special: Emailuser/Stupkid|Contact]] (Fort Worth)<br /> * Dennis Parker [[Special: Emailuser/dparker|Contact]]<br /> * Chip Rosenthal [[Special: Emailuser/chip|Contact]]<br /> * Brad Mouring [[Special: Emailuser/Bmouring|Contact]]<br /> * Joel Greenberg [[Special: Email