http://wiki.openmoko.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Techiem2&feedformat=atomOpenmoko - User contributions [en]2013-05-25T22:52:09ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.19.6http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_hostUSB host2008-11-12T16:19:20Z<p>Techiem2: Linked my name to my profile page</p>
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<div>{{Languages|USB host}}<br />
The mini-USB port on both the Neo 1973 and the Neo FreeRunner supports both USB host and USB device. This opens up a range of possibilities, such as adding USB cameras and USB input devices.<br />
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=== Using USB host mode ===<br />
==== Selecting USB host modes ====<br />
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By default, the mini-USB port is in device mode. To tell the Neo that it is logically a host¹):<br />
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echo "host" > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode<br />
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Independent of the logical mode of the USB port, the Neo FreeRunner can provide 5 volt USB power to an attached USB device. To enable this (not available on Neo 1973):<br />
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echo "1" > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode<br />
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Note: You may want to run <code>ifconfig usb0 down</code> prior to switching to USB host mode, as the Neo's USB networking may not like having its USB port disappear. You'll probably want to ssh into your Neo over WiFi or Bluetooth before starting all of this, alternatively use an on screen keyboard.<br />
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Note that in full USB host mode the FreeRunner will power the external device. To avoid draining the battery use a powered USB hub, then on the FreeRunner enable logical host mode:<br />
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~ - echo host > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode<br />
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but NOT electrical host mode<br />
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~ - echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode<br />
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Note that powered USB hubs do not send power upstream, that is, into the host. If you wish to power or charge the FreeRunner, you will need a [[Specialized USB cables|special USB cable]].<br />
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¹)Debian note: You'll need the ohci-hcd module:<br />
modprobe ohci-hcd<br />
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* NOTE: with [FSO] based distributions one should use the dbus APIs and not the method stated above.<br />
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==== Returning to USB device mode ====<br />
After doing whatever is needed to safely remove your device and unplugging it you can remove the provision of 5 volt power and return to device mode.<br />
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echo "0" > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode<BR><br />
echo "device" > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode<br />
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You can now safely restart USB networking.<br />
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==== USB-Mode-Script====<br />
These simple script is useful to switch the USB-Modes:<br />
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<nowiki>#!/bin/sh</nowiki> <BR><br />
grep -q 'host' /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode<BR><br />
if [ $? -eq 0 ]<BR><br />
then<BR><br />
echo "0" > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode<BR><br />
echo "device" > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode<BR><br />
echo USB-Port is in device-mode now.<BR><br />
else<BR><br />
ifconfig usb0 down<BR><br />
echo "host" > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode<BR><br />
echo "1" > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode<BR><br />
echo USB-Port is in host-mode now.<BR><br />
fi<BR><br />
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You can easily create a push button menu item for this: [http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/usb_host_mode_the_button Instructions]<br />
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==== Using a GUI ====<br />
* Using the packaged push button derived from the script above: [http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/resource/usbmode-button_0.1_armv4t.ipk Download]<br />
* [[User:Techiem2|Mark D. Montgomery II]]'s [http://techiem2.net/index.php?/archives/10-Freerunner-USB-Mode-Control-Program.html application] controls all the various modes through a GUI<br />
* Thomas Vesely's [http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/usbchmod/ project]<br />
* Using the gtk+ gui [[Framework-settings]]<br />
* Using openmoko-panel-plugin (confirmation and link needed)<br />
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=== Providing power to connected USB devices while in host mode ===<br />
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Normally, USB host ports provide power to any connected USB device.<br />
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Available power in host mode is the full maximum of 500mA according to USB-specifications on the Neo FreeRunner, and no power is available in host mode on the Neo 1973. If your USB device respects USB-standards and consumes not more than 500mA, you may connect it directly to your Neo FreeRunner.<br />
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To provide power to USB devices attached to your Neo 1973, or to provide power to your Neo FreeRunner while USB-device connected, you can provide power by using a (modified [for powering FreeRunner]) powered USB hub (see below), or by manually injecting power into the attached USB device (and Neo FreeRunner) via one of the [[specialized_USB_cables]].<br />
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=== Powered USB hubs known to work with the Neo ===<br />
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(please add any known to work)<br />
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=== Providing power to run and charge the Neo while in host mode ===<br />
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A slightly separate issue is power to run and charge the Neo (both types) itself. When the USB port is in device mode, the Neo FreeRunner/1973 can be powered and recharged via the USB port, but when in standard host mode, the Neo FreeRunner is set to provide power and does not charge. Fortunately, control of the direction of power (in or out) is independent of the personality of the USB port (host or device):<br />
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To recap, the direction of power can be controlled:<br />
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Set to 0 (default), no power is provided at the USB port, charging is enabled, and host 15K pulldowns are removed from D+ and D-:<br />
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echo "0" > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode<br />
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Set to 1, provides up to 500mA USB power at the USB port (FreeRunner only), disables charging from USB, and applies 15K pulldowns to USB D+ and D-:<br />
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echo "1" > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode<br />
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Next, power must somehow be injected. An unmodified powered USB hub only provides power to the connected devices, but not to the connected host, so the only solution here is to modify a USB-hub¹) or to create a custom cable which will inject power into the host. See [[specialized_USB_cables]] for some examples.<br />
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Finally, there is the question of charge rate. The charging logic in the Neo will only charge at 100mA by default. Charging at 500mA will take place only if the charging device responds appropriatly to USB negotiation to increase power consumption. Charging at 1000mA will only take place if the Neo detects the appropriate resistor on the ID pins.<br />
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You can manually set the charge rate. See [[Forcing_fast_charge_mode]]<br />
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¹) often it's sufficient to short a diode in USB-hub to feed power to the host-connector too.<br />
# Edit 05 Oct. 2008 : Not being able to find any diode on my ([[User:Henrikz|Henrikz]]) USB Hub (Brand: Equip, Type: 4 port, aluminum) I simply connected +5V (pin 1) from one of the downstream ports to pin 1 of the upstream port.<br />
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=== Power Concerns ===<br />
You'll need to force the Neo to go into fast charge mode, since it can't do its usual power negotiation over USB.<br />
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echo -n "fast_cccv" > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0008/chgmode<br />
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(Also this should be done by kernel when seeing 47K at ID-pin)<br />
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=== Working Examples ===<br />
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==== USB Keyboard ====<br />
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Pictures [http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080716 here]<br />
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==== Connecting a USB-Stick ====<br />
[[Image:connecting-usb-stick-1.jpg|thumb|left]]<br />
I found this adapter, it has 2 Type A jacks, rather cheap (about 5 &euro;).<br />
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[[Image:connecting-usb-stick-2.jpg|thumb|left]]<br />
I borrowed the cable from a card reader, it has the same pinout like the cable that comes with the Neo.<br />
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[[Image:connecting-usb-stick-3.jpg|thumb|left]]<br />
With the above commands I could mount the memory stick.<br />
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[[Image:connecting-usb-stick-4.jpg|thumb|left]]<br />
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[[Category:Neo1973 Hardware]]<br />
[[Category:Neo FreeRunner Hardware]]<br />
[[Category:USB]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_USB_charger_specifications_and_compatibility_listNeo USB charger specifications and compatibility list2008-11-12T16:11:36Z<p>Techiem2: Added PowerBullet 2x2</p>
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<div>{{Languages|USB charger}}<br />
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The [[Neo FreeRunner]] and the [[Neo 1973]] can be charged with the supplied USB charger, which is a device that does not comply with the recent [http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/batt_charging_1_0.zip USB Battery Charging Specification]. This specification demands for an open circuit on the ID pin and a short circuit between the D+ and D- pins.<br />
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Most of the USB chargers around behave the same way as the one supplied with the Openmoko Neo. In fact, up to now no charger has been identified to comply to the specification mentioned above. The differences (incompatibilities) result from the way the USB charger signals the mobile phone that it is present: most of the manufacturers chose to connect a resistor between the "ID" pin and the "GND" pin in the USB connector.<br />
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For Openmoko Neo, the value of the resistor is 47.5 kOhms.<br />
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Additional details can be found at : (site removed) <del>http://quickstart.openmoko.org/#chargerdetection</del><br />
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Following USB chargers have been identified and measured:<br />
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== AKII Technology Charger (supplied with Neo FreeRunner) ==<br />
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This charger comes with the Neo FreeRunner package.<br />
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=== Specifications ===<br />
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*Model: [http://www.ak2.com.tw/pd_main.asp?sg_id=11 A10P1-05MP]<br />
*Input: 100-240V~ /0.3A<br />
*Output: +5v up to 2.0A<br />
*Signaling: 47.5k 1% resistor between ID pin and ground for openmoko charger identification<br />
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=== Compatibility ===<br />
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*HTC Polaris (tested on O2 Xda Orbit 2)<br />
*Openmoko Neo1973<br />
*Openmoko Neo FreeRunner<br />
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== Blackberry PSM05R-050CHW ==<br />
[[Image:P1040112.jpg|thumb|300px]]<br />
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=== Specifications ===<br />
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*Model: PSM05R-050CHW<br />
*Output: DC 5 V - 0.5 A<br />
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=== Compatibility ===<br />
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*Openmoko Neo FreeRunner, provided the 500 mA charging mode is enabled on the FR (see [[Forcing_fast_charge_mode]]), as otherwise it would only (dis)charge, as the FR would only draw 100 mA out of it.<br />
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== ''sold as'' "Essentiel b (Boulanger)" ''Chargeur allume-cigares/USB'' ==<br />
[[Image:P1040105.jpg|thumb|300px]]<br />
This car charger is sold at the French appliances superstore ''Boulanger'' but should be available in other stores under different brands. It is an adapter to a USB cable which can then be connected to any USB-charging device. By default, it will be seen as a "passive" USB port at 100 mA.<br />
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=== Specifications ===<br />
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*Model: Cod. 779220<br />
*Input: DC 12-30 V<br />
*Output: DC 5 V - 850 mA max<br />
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=== Compatibility ===<br />
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*Openmoko Neo FreeRunner, provided the 500 mA charging mode is enabled on the FR (see [[Forcing_fast_charge_mode]]), as otherwise it would only (dis)charge, as the FR would only draw 100 mA out of it.<br />
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== Garmin 362-00043-04 ==<br />
[[Image:Charger_garmin.jpg|thumb|300px|Garmin 362-00043-04]]<br />
This charger comes with the Garmin Edge bicycle computers.<br />
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=== Specifications ===<br />
*Manufacturer: probably Phihong Technology Co., Ltd.<br />
*Model: PSCR05R-050A1<br />
*Input: 100-240V~ 0.2A 50-60Hz<br />
*Output: 5V up to 1.0A<br />
*Signaling: D+ and D- open, 17.4 kOhms resistor between ID pin and ground pin<br />
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=== Compatibility ===<br />
*Garmin Edge<br />
*HTC Polaris (tested on O2 Xda Orbit 2)<br />
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== HTC 79H00051-02M ==<br />
This charger comes with the tmobile MDA Compact 2 (HTC Charmer).<br />
=== Specifications ===<br />
*Manufacturer: Delta Electronics Inc.<br />
*Model: ADP-5FH C<br />
*Input: 100-240V~ 0.2A 50-60Hz<br />
*Output: 5V= 1.0A LPS<br />
*Signaling: D+ and D- open, short circuit between ID pin and ground pin<br />
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=== Compatibility ===<br />
*HTC Charmer (tested on MDA Compact 2)<br />
*Openmoko Neo FreeRunner<br />
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== HTC 79H00055-02M ==<br />
[[Image:Charger_htc.jpg|thumb|300px|HTC 79H00055-02M]]<br />
This charger comes with the O2 Xda Orbit 2 (HTC Polaris).<br />
=== Specifications ===<br />
*Manufacturer: Phihong Technology Co., Ltd.<br />
*Model: PSAA05E-050 (the letter E denotes the EU power connector. There are also US, UK and AUS variants of this model)<br />
*Input: 100-240V~ 0.3A<br />
*Output: 5.15V up to 1.0A (over-current protection at 2A)<br />
*Signaling: D+ and D- open, short circuit between ID pin and ground pin<br />
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=== Compatibility ===<br />
*HTC Polaris (tested on O2 Xda Orbit 2)<br />
*Garmin Edge<br />
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== PHIHONG CLM10D-050 ==<br />
[[Image:Charger__htc_12V.jpg|thumb|300px|PHIHONG CLM10D-050]]<br />
This 12V cigarette lighter adapter charger comes with the O2 Xda Orbit 2 (HTC Polaris).<br />
=== Specifications ===<br />
*Manufacturer: Phihong Technology Co., Ltd.<br />
*Model: CLM10D-050<br />
*Input: 10-30V DC<br />
*Output: 5.0V up to 2.0A<br />
*Signaling: D+ and D- open, short circuit between ID pin and ground pin<br />
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=== Compatibility ===<br />
*HTC Polaris (tested on O2 Xda Orbit 2)<br />
*Garmin Edge<br />
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== TomTom car charger ==<br />
This charger comes with a TomTom2 navigation device<br />
=== Specifications ===<br />
*Manufacturer: TomTom<br />
*Model: 4N00.007<br />
*Input: 12/24V<br />
*Output: 5.0V up to 2.0A<br />
*Signaling: unknown, but most probably D+ and D- open, short circuit between ID pin and ground pin<br />
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=== Compatibility ===<br />
* TomTom navigation devices<br />
* Openmoko Neo FreeRunner (just plug in, it will charge with 1000mA without forcing fast charge!)<br />
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== Varta Digital USB Charger ==<br />
This device charges 1-4 AA or AAA rechargeable batteries (also in mixed mode) and provides USB output to charge from the cells other gadgets (or even can charge from devices with USB output the cells).<br />
=== Specifications ===<br />
*Manufacturer: [http://www.en.varta-consumer.com/content.php?path=/1204126618.html&&domain=www.en.varta-consumer.com Varta]<br />
*Model: Digital USB Charger<br />
*Input: 110-240V<br />
*Output: 5.0V up to ??A<br />
*Signaling: unknown<br />
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=== Compatibility ===<br />
* Openmoko Neo FreeRunner (just plug in, it will charge with 1000mA without forcing fast charge!)<br />
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== ezGear PowerBullet 2x2 ==<br />
This device is a 2 port car or wall charger for USB devices.<br />
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=== Specifications ===<br />
*Manufacturer: [http://www.ezgear.com/ ezGear]<br />
*Model: [http://www.ezgear.com/ALL/PowerBullet2x2.htm PowerBullet 2x2]<br />
*Input: 12-24VDC/100-240VAC<br />
*Output: 5.0V 1A<br />
*Signaling: unknown<br />
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=== Compatibility ===<br />
*Most USB chargable devices<br />
*OpenMoko Neo Freerunner provided you force fast charge mode (I have tested with 500mA but not 1A - I assume the device gives 500mA to each port)</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cardsSupported microSD cards2008-10-30T17:59:13Z<p>Techiem2: /* Cards by Vendor */</p>
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<div>{{todo|Maybe reformat table, see discussion page}}<br />
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There are a plethora of Transflash / microSD / SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) cards out there.<br />
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The Neo FreeRunner supports up to 8GB SDHC cards.<br />
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Some microSD cards appear to be too slow to work with the current default settings of the glamo driver, so some specific parameters must be set in uboot to use them (see https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743, and corresponding notes in the tables bellow).<br />
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There had been a [http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=677 bug] in the SD device driver (s3cmci) which caused some trouble. Please make sure you use a post-september 4th kernel which applies our kernel patchset rev2832 or higher.<br />
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Booting from SDHC requires a u-boot from 2008-07-23 or later. '''But pay attention''' : there are problems with SDHC cards at suspend time. More details from [[Booting from SD#Booting_from_SDHC_.2F_suspend_problems|Booting from SD]]<br />
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Note that most vendors are using an irritating way of labeling the capacity of their cards (They are using the factor 1000 instead of 1024 for KB and MB). Therefore the real capacity of these cards will be about 5% less than the vendor's specification. For example, cards labelled ''6 GB'' will only have 5.7 GB of storage capacity.<br />
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If you use a card not listed here, please add to this table.<br />
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== Cards by Vendor ==<br />
{| border=1 |<br />
| Vendor || Model || Capacity || Speed || [[u-boot]] 1.1.6 || linux 2.6.17.14-fic5 || [[u-boot]] 1.2.0-moko8 svn1915 || [[u-boot]] 1.3.2-moko12 || linux 2.6.24+git75969 (2008.8 kernel as of Sept. 4, 2008) || OM2008.9's kernel<br />
|-<br />
| A-Data || microSDHC-8GB || 8GB (SDHC) || class 4 || ? || {{yes}} || ? || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Corsair || CMFSDMICRO-512 || 512MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Dane-Elec || DA-SDMC-2048-R || 2GB || ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || {{yes}} ||<br />
|-<br />
| extreMemory || AE56-1280R || 128MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| extreMemory || H256MS05 || 256MB || 60x || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| hama || 55371 || 256MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Intuix || IXMSDM128B60X || 128MB || 60x || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Kingston || SD-C512 || 512MB || ? || {{no}} || {{yes}} || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Kingston || SD-C01G || 1GB || ? || {{yes}} || ? || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Kingston || [[Supported_microSD_cards/SD-C02G|SD-C02G]] || 2GB || ? || ? || {{yes}} || || {{yes}} || {{no}} || {{no}} (see [[Supported_microSD_cards/SD-C02G|SD-C02G]] )<br />
|-<br />
| Kingston || SDC4 (N0043-012.A00LF) || 4GB || ? || ? || FSO MS2 / Linux 2.6.24: I/O Errors while formatting [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/varacanero Contact me here] || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Patriot || PSF128MCSD-RC || 128MB || ? || {{no}} || ? || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Patriot || PSF8GMCSDHC4 || 8GB (SDHC)|| Class 4 || ? || ? || ? || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}}<br />
|-<br />
| PNY || P-MICROSD512-BX || 512MB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| PNY || P-MICROSD2GB-BX (card marked with MM8GR02GUACY) || 2GB || slow ? || ? || ? (Some work needed to get it running, see [https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 #1743] but apparently not enough) || ? || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Pretec || || 128MB || ? || ? || {{yes}} || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-128 || 128MB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || unknown || 256MB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || unknown || 512MB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-1024-E10M || 1GB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQU-2048-E10M || 2GB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-2048-E11MK || 2GB || || || || || detects size incorrectly with U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (Aug 26 2008 - 08:24:58) : see http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1815#comment:6 || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-4096-E11M || 4GB (SDHC) || || ? || {{yes}} || ? || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-6144-E11M || 6GB (SDHC) || || ? || {{yes}} || {{no}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-8192-E11M || 7GB (SDHC) || 4 || ? || {{yes}} || ? || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQY-8192-A11M || 8GB (SDHC) || || ? || {{yes}} || ? || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQY-8192-E11M || 8GB (SDHC) || class 6 || ? || {{yes}} || ? || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQR-8192-E12M || 8GB (SDHC) || 4 || ? || {{yes}} || ? || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQR-8192-???? || 8GB (SDHC) || 6 || ? || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-008G-E11M || 8GB (SDHC) || 2 || || || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-008G-E11M || 8GB (SDHC) || 4 || ? || {{yes}} || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Silicon Power || SP004GBSTH006V10 || 4GB (SDHC) || 4 || ? || ? || ? || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}}<br />
|-<br />
| Toshiba || SD-512R2W || 512MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || TS128MUSD || 128MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || TS256MUSD80 || 256MB || 80x || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || TS512MUSD || 512MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || MM4GR512UACY-PA '''(shipped with FreeRunner)''' || 512MB || [http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=208&SpNo=2&LangNo=0 4] or [http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=195&SpNo=2&LangNo=0 6], which is it? || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}}<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || MM4GRO1GUACY || 1GB || || ? || {{yes}} || ? || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || TS1GUSDC || 1GB (SDC) || || ? || I/O errors while trying to install Om2008.8 rootfs.tar.gz, looks like [https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 #1743] || ? || ? || ? ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || TS4GUSDHC6 (card marked with MM8GR04GUACY) || 4GB (SDHC) || Class 6 || ? || {{yes}} (Some work needed to get it running, see [https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 #1743]) || ? || || || {{no}}, see [http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2025 bug #2025]<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || TS8GUSDHC4 || 8GB (SDHC) || Class 4 || ? || ? || ? || {{yes}} || linux 2.6.24+git37+d744c88c14 (2007.2 kernel as of Aug 28, 2008) ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || TS8GUSDHC4 || 8GB (SDHC) || Class 4 || ? || ? || ? || {{yes}} || {{yes}} since kernel of 30-Sep-2008 ||<br />
|-<br />
| Verbatim || 47225 || 1GB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| vox-fon || 1 GB || 1GB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| (Intenso) || ? || 4GB (SDHC) || || {{no}} || {{yes}} (Some work needed to get it running, see [https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 #1743]) || ? || {{yes}} || {{yes}} (Some work needed to get it running, see [https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 #1743])<br />
|}<br />
<br />
Note that cards with a "'''no'''" may still work at times, but that we just have found their behaviour too erratic to consider acceptable.<br />
(Also note that this is a bug in our version of u-boot. The cards are probably fine.)</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22008-10-22T21:13:11Z<p>Techiem2: moved section to fix formatting annoycances</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com<br />
<br />
TWiki at Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com/twiki/bin/view<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Personal Laptop:''' ZaReason UltraLapSR dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (recently installed in preparation for some upcoming games)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Neo Freerunner<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' At&T Prepaid ($.20/minute - put $25 in account every 90 days)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my work laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
Ideally it should be running a SIP client with SRTP/ZRTP capabilities for secure communications.<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I'm now using my Freerunner as my cell phone on AT&T prepaid.<br />
My old one is soon to be cancelled.<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Wall/Car Charger==<br />
I picked up an [http://www.ezgear.com/ALL/PowerBullet2x2.htm ezGear PowerBullet 2x2] - 2 port Wall/Car USB charger.<br />
<br />
It is rated at 5v 1A.<br />
<br />
It appears to put out 500mA per port (so reports the Freerunner).<br />
<br />
It does not appear to be a "smart" USB device as the Freerunner does not go into fast charge mode when connected to it (it goes into 100mA mode, which as we all know is pretty much useless), so you have to force fast charging to get a 500mA charge going.<br />
<br />
This is a minor inconvenience compared to the convenience of having a Wall/Car charger always on hand (just don't forget to have your USB cable on you!).<br />
<br />
==Openmoko Projects==<br />
<br />
===USB-Mode===<br />
I wrote a small pygtk application to switch USB Modes on the Freerunner.<br />
<br />
You can read my blog entry about it [http://www.techiem2.net/index.php?/archives/10-Freerunner-USB-Mode-Control-Program.html here] or directly download the archive [http://www.techiem2.net/files/usbmode.tar.gz here].<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Image:Usbmode.png|thumb|left|240|Upright|Border|USB-Mode]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22008-10-22T21:03:23Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com<br />
<br />
TWiki at Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com/twiki/bin/view<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Personal Laptop:''' ZaReason UltraLapSR dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (recently installed in preparation for some upcoming games)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Neo Freerunner<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' At&T Prepaid ($.20/minute - put $25 in account every 90 days)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my work laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
Ideally it should be running a SIP client with SRTP/ZRTP capabilities for secure communications.<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I'm now using my Freerunner as my cell phone on AT&T prepaid.<br />
My old one is soon to be cancelled.<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
==Openmoko Projects==<br />
<br />
===USB-Mode===<br />
I wrote a small pygtk application to switch USB Modes on the Freerunner.<br />
<br />
You can read my blog entry about it [http://www.techiem2.net/index.php?/archives/10-Freerunner-USB-Mode-Control-Program.html here] or directly download the archive [http://www.techiem2.net/files/usbmode.tar.gz here].<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Image:Usbmode.png|thumb|left|240|Upright|Border|USB-Mode]]<br />
<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
<br />
==Wall/Car Charger==<br />
I picked up an [http://www.ezgear.com/ALL/PowerBullet2x2.htm ezGear PowerBullet 2x2] - 2 port Wall/Car USB charger.<br />
<br />
It is rated at 5v 1A.<br />
<br />
It appears to put out 500mA per port (so reports the Freerunner).<br />
<br />
It does not appear to be a "smart" USB device as the Freerunner does not go into fast charge mode when connected to it (it goes into 100mA mode, which as we all know is pretty much useless), so you have to force fast charging to get a 500mA charge going.<br />
<br />
This is a minor inconvenience compared to the convenience of having a Wall/Car charger always on hand (just don't forget to have your USB cable on you!).</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22008-10-22T21:02:18Z<p>Techiem2: /* Wall/Car Charger */</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com<br />
<br />
TWiki at Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com/twiki/bin/view<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Personal Laptop:''' ZaReason UltraLapSR dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (recently installed in preparation for some upcoming games)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Neo Freerunner<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' At&T Prepaid ($.20/minute - put $25 in account every 90 days)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my work laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
Ideally it should be running a SIP client with SRTP/ZRTP capabilities for secure communications.<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I'm now using my Freerunner as my cell phone on AT&T prepaid.<br />
My old one is soon to be cancelled.<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.<br />
<br />
==Openmoko Projects==<br />
<br />
===USB-Mode===<br />
I wrote a small pygtk application to switch USB Modes on the Freerunner.<br />
<br />
You can read my blog entry about it [http://www.techiem2.net/index.php?/archives/10-Freerunner-USB-Mode-Control-Program.html here] or directly download the archive [http://www.techiem2.net/files/usbmode.tar.gz here].<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Image:Usbmode.png|thumb|left|240|Upright|Border|USB-Mode]]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Wall/Car Charger==<br />
I picked up an [http://www.ezgear.com/ALL/PowerBullet2x2.htm ezGear PowerBullet 2x2] - 2 port Wall/Car USB charger.<br />
<br />
It is rated at 5v 1A.<br />
<br />
It appears to put out 500mA per port (so reports the Freerunner).<br />
<br />
It does not appear to be a "smart" USB device as the Freerunner does not go into fast charge mode when connected to it (it goes into 100mA mode, which as we all know is pretty much useless), so you have to force fast charging to get a 500mA charge going.<br />
<br />
This is a minor inconvenience compared to the convenience of having a Wall/Car charger always on hand (just don't forget to have your USB cable on you!).</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22008-10-22T21:01:49Z<p>Techiem2: Added Wall/Car charger information</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com<br />
<br />
TWiki at Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com/twiki/bin/view<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Personal Laptop:''' ZaReason UltraLapSR dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (recently installed in preparation for some upcoming games)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Neo Freerunner<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' At&T Prepaid ($.20/minute - put $25 in account every 90 days)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my work laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
Ideally it should be running a SIP client with SRTP/ZRTP capabilities for secure communications.<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I'm now using my Freerunner as my cell phone on AT&T prepaid.<br />
My old one is soon to be cancelled.<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.<br />
<br />
==Openmoko Projects==<br />
<br />
===USB-Mode===<br />
I wrote a small pygtk application to switch USB Modes on the Freerunner.<br />
<br />
You can read my blog entry about it [http://www.techiem2.net/index.php?/archives/10-Freerunner-USB-Mode-Control-Program.html here] or directly download the archive [http://www.techiem2.net/files/usbmode.tar.gz here].<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Image:Usbmode.png|thumb|left|240|Upright|Border|USB-Mode]]<br />
<br />
==Wall/Car Charger==<br />
I picked up an [http://www.ezgear.com/ALL/PowerBullet2x2.htm ezGear PowerBullet 2x2] - 2 port Wall/Car USB charger.<br />
<br />
It is rated at 5v 1A.<br />
<br />
It appears to put out 500mA per port (so reports the Freerunner).<br />
<br />
It does not appear to be a "smart" USB device as the Freerunner does not go into fast charge mode when connected to it (it goes into 100mA mode, which as we all know is pretty much useless), so you have to force fast charging to get a 500mA charge going.<br />
<br />
This is a minor inconvenience compared to the convenience of having a Wall/Car charger always on hand (just don't forget to have your USB cable on you!).</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Car_phone_holderTalk:Car phone holder2008-10-19T14:16:36Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>Just where does one purchase the HR products (in the US in my case)?<br />
<br />
I couldn't find anything on their site.<br />
<br />
-- [[User:Techiem2|TechieM2]] 10-19-2008</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Car_phone_holderTalk:Car phone holder2008-10-19T14:16:14Z<p>Techiem2: Where do you buy HR stuff?</p>
<hr />
<div>Just where does one purchase the HR products (in the US in my case)?<br />
I couldn't find anything on their site.<br />
<br />
-- [[User:Techiem2|TechieM2]] 10-19-2008</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:USB_hostTalk:USB host2008-10-12T14:17:30Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>I picked up one of these cables to try:<br />
<br />
http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=1510&sku=28107<br />
<br />
I hooked up a USB A female-female adapter to the data/power end and to a dual PS/2 to USB keyboard/mouse adapter with a TypeMatrix 2020 keyboard on it.<br />
<br />
I hooked the aux power line to my laptop.<br />
<br />
While it worked, eventually the battery drained to deep discharge (I had WiFi enabled and GSM/BT/BPS disabled - Power Management was disabled).<br />
<br />
When I looked at the power info on the Freerunner when it was still in normal USB mode, I found that the Aux line only supplies 100mA (charger_type file) and the chgmode file says "play-only".<br />
<br />
Also, the directory for the charge info is /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/ on the Freerunner and it appears the setting for fast charge mode is simply "fast" on the Freerunner instead of "fast_cccv" (at least that's what shows up in the chgmode file when hooked up USB).<br />
<br />
--[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 23:08, 24 July 2008<br />
<br />
<br />
I put together a little pygtk app for changing USB Modes.<br />
<br />
[[User:Techiem2#USB-Mode|USB-Mode Intro and external links]]<br />
<br />
--[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 10:17, 12 October 2008</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner/Buttons_and_LEDsFreeRunner/Buttons and LEDs2008-10-12T13:55:34Z<p>Techiem2: orang -> orange</p>
<hr />
<div>This is the Software specification for the Openmoko Neo FreeRunner Button and LEDs.<br />
<br />
{{InProgress}}<br />
<br />
=Taxonomy=<br />
<br />
==What's currently implemented==<br />
/sys/devices/platform/gta02-led.0/leds/gta02-aux:red/<br />
/sys/devices/platform/gta02-led.0/leds/gta02-power:blue/<br />
/sys/devices/platform/gta02-led.0/leds/gta02-power:orange/<br />
Those are all userspace directories for controlling the LEDs. echo 0 > brightness will turn the LED off. echo 1 > brightness will turn it on.<br />
trigger currently does nothing.<br />
<br />
==Buttons==<br />
* AUX = Button on the left side of the device, upper area<br />
* POWER = Button on the right side of the device, center area (right below the USB socket)<br />
<br />
==Leds==<br />
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5<br />
| EVENT<br />
|style="background:#FF0000;color:white;"| '''red'''<br />
| behind AUX button<br />
|-<br />
| HEARTBEAT<br />
|style="background:#FF8040;color:white;"| '''orange'''<br />
| behind POWER button<br />
|-<br />
| WIRELESS / BLUETOOTH<br />
|style="background:#0000FF;color:white;"| '''blue'''<br />
| behind POWER button<br />
|-<br />
| MIXING TWO LEDS<br />
|style="background:#80409F;color:white;"| '''purple'''<br />
| behind POWER button if turning on the blue and the orange buttons together<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Modes==<br />
* OFF = Device has no power or has been shutdown<br />
* ON = Device is fully powered<br />
* ON+CHARGING = Device is fully powered and has been connected to a USB host or Openmoko charger.<br />
* LOCK = Device is fully powered, but has screen lock displayed<br />
* SUSPEND = Device has been suspended to low-power mode<br />
<br />
=Basic Button Usage=<br />
<br />
This is grouped by mode:<br />
<br />
==Mode: OFF==<br />
<br />
* To switch the device on: Press and hold POWER until the boot logo appears.<br />
* To enter the "normal" (NAND) boot menu: Press and hold POWER, one second later press and hold AUX.<br />
* To enter the "rescue" (NOR) boot menu: Press and hold AUX, then press and hold POWER.<br />
<br />
==Mode: ON==<br />
<br />
* To suspend the device: Press POWER.<br />
* To shut down the device: Press and hold POWER for 4 seconds. If the device hangs, press and hold POWER for 8 seconds. If it still hangs, remove the battery and disconnect from USB.<br />
* To go to the home screen: Press AUX.<br />
* To display the profile screen: Press and hold AUX until it appears.<br />
<br />
==Mode: SUSPEND==<br />
<br />
* To wakeup the device: Press POWER.<br />
<br />
=Basic LED Usage=<br />
<br />
LEDs are very useful in broadcasting valuable basic status information to the user in a way that the user does not have to unlock the device, enable the screen or turning the screen saver off and subsequently search the screen for basic status information.<br />
<br />
''This is grouped by mode:''<br />
<br />
==Mode: OFF==<br />
<br />
* All LEDs will be turned off.<br />
<br />
==Mode: ON==<br />
<br />
* HEARTBEAT will emit a short blink every 4 seconds.<br />
* If Bluetooth is powered on, WIRELESS will emit a short blink every 2 seconds.<br />
* If Wifi is powered on, WIRELESS will emit a long blink every 2 seconds.<br />
* If Bluetooth and Wifi are powered on, WIRELESS will be lit continuosly.<br />
<br />
==Mode: ON+CHARGING==<br />
<br />
''Same as ON, with the exception of''<br />
* HEARTBEAT will increase blinking as the charge level of the battery increases.<br />
* HEARTBEAT will be continuosly lit, if the battery has been fully charged.<br />
<br />
==Mode: SUSPEND==<br />
<br />
* All LEDs will be turned off.<br />
<br />
=Advanced Button/LED Usage=<br />
<br />
* In ON-Mode, EVENT will blink every 2 seconds if there's an event that needs your attention.<br />
* The more events, the faster EVENT will blink.<br />
* Pressing AUX will acknowledge the event with the topmost priority and display it to you.<br />
* EVENT will stop to blink once all events have been acknowledged.<br />
<br />
<br />
=A first rules implementation=<br />
A C implementation of these rules has been [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2008-July/003458.html done by smurfy - phil] and is available at http://www.smurfy.de/files/neo/openmoko-led-v1.tar.gz<br />
<br />
<br />
= Implementations of other LED behaviors =<br />
<br />
== Blink LEDs to a user-definable rhythm ==<br />
<br />
A Python Script For Blinking Leds By Beats. This script reads beats from a file and blinks FreeRunners LEDs accordingly.<br />
<br />
File format is human readable text, consisting of a simple sequence of integer quartet (4 numbers). The first number representing status of blue power-led, second means status of orange power-led and third means status of red aux-led. 0=OFF, 1=ON. (If blue=1 and orange=1 then power=lila. This has nothing to do with this python script or this file format.) The last number represents the duration in milliseconds to hold that situation of leds. Any non digit characters in the file count as a separators between numbers, but are otherwise ignored.<br />
<br />
It requires packages python-core and python-re from opkg.<br />
==== Led blinker ====<br />
<br />
#!/usr/bin/python<br />
"""Led Blinker Player<br />
<br />
Usage: python leds.py [filename]<br />
"""<br />
import sys<br />
import time<br />
import re<br />
<br />
def loadFromTextFile(filename):<br />
infile = open(filename)<br />
contents = infile.read()<br />
return re.findall("(\d+)\D*(\d+)\D*(\d+)\D*(\d+)", contents)<br />
<br />
def playNote(blue_value, orange_value, red_value, duration):<br />
blue.write(str(blue_value) + "\n")<br />
orange.write(str(orange_value) + "\n")<br />
red.write(str(red_value) + "\n")<br />
time.sleep(float(duration) / 1000.0)<br />
<br />
def playFile(filename):<br />
global blue, orange, red <br />
notes = loadFromTextFile(filename)<br />
blue = open("/sys/class/leds/gta02-power:blue/brightness", "w", 1)<br />
orange = open("/sys/class/leds/gta02-power:orange/brightness", "w", 1)<br />
red = open("/sys/class/leds/gta02-aux:red/brightness", "w", 1)<br />
<br />
for first,second,third, duration in notes:<br />
playNote(first,second,third,duration)<br />
<br />
playNote(0, 0, 0, 0)<br />
blue.close()<br />
orange.close()<br />
red.close()<br />
<br />
if __name__ == "__main__":<br />
playFile(sys.argv[1])<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Example Beat ====<br />
The following is an example "fireworks"-file that can be used to test the led blinker.<br />
<br />
1 0 0 100<br />
1 0 1 100<br />
1 1 0 100<br />
0 1 0 100<br />
0 1 1 100<br />
0 0 1 100<br />
1 1 1 100<br />
1 0 0 100<br />
1 0 1 100<br />
1 1 0 100<br />
0 1 0 100<br />
0 1 1 100<br />
0 0 1 100<br />
1 1 1 100<br />
1 0 0 100<br />
1 0 1 100<br />
1 1 0 100<br />
0 1 0 100<br />
0 1 1 100<br />
0 0 1 100<br />
1 1 1 100<br />
<br />
== Charge State and Wi-Fi transfer ==<br />
<br />
Seba has written a script called ledd which indicates charging state and transferring data over<br />
wifi on the LEDs. It is available [http://openmoko.opendevice.org/~dos/ledd here].<br />
<br />
== Power Status ==<br />
<br />
This Perl Script<br />
uses the blue and orange LEDs under the power button to show battery power status. <br />
<br />
Install perl using "opkg install perl" to use this script. The script will indicate high battery with blue, medium battery by purple (blue + orange), and low battery by orange. Adjust values for your needs. <br />
<br />
You can have it autostart by saving the script as /etc/init.d/lights.pl<br><br />
then creating a shell script /etc/init.d/startlights.sh with just one line:<br />
/etc/init.d/lights.pl &<br />
and then create a symlink to it to auto start by running<br />
ln -s /etc/init.d/startlights.sh /etc/rc5.d/S15startlights<br />
<br />
Don't forget to "chmod +x" all those scripts :)<br />
<br />
lights.pl:<br />
<br />
#!/usr/bin/perl<br />
my $high_thresh = 75;<br />
my $low_thresh = 30;<br />
while(1) {<br />
my $command = `apm`;<br />
if ($command =~ m/battery .*: (\d*)%/) {<br />
print("Value: " . $1 . "\n");<br />
}<br />
if($1 < $low_thresh) {<br />
print("Low Battery\n");<br />
$command = `echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/gta02-led.0/leds/gta02-power:orange/brightness`;<br />
$command = `echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/gta02-led.0/leds/gta02-power:blue/brightness`;<br />
} <br />
if($1 > $high_thresh) {<br />
print("High Battery\n");<br />
$command = `echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/gta02-led.0/leds/gta02-power:blue/brightness`;<br />
$command = `echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/gta02-led.0/leds/gta02-power:orange/brightness`;<br />
}<br />
if(($1 <= $high_thresh) && ($1 >= $low_thresh)){<br />
print("Mid Battery\n");<br />
$command = `echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/gta02-led.0/leds/gta02-power:blue/brightness`;<br />
$command = `echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/gta02-led.0/leds/gta02-power:orange/brightness`;<br />
}<br />
sleep(15);<br />
}<br />
<br />
<br />
-nvanfossen<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Category:Neo FreeRunner Hardware]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22008-10-11T01:48:50Z<p>Techiem2: /* USB-Mode */ Added Screenshot</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com<br />
<br />
TWiki at Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com/twiki/bin/view<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Personal Laptop:''' ZaReason UltraLapSR dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (recently installed in preparation for some upcoming games)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Neo Freerunner<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' At&T Prepaid ($.20/minute - put $25 in account every 90 days)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my work laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
Ideally it should be running a SIP client with SRTP/ZRTP capabilities for secure communications.<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I'm now using my Freerunner as my cell phone on AT&T prepaid.<br />
My old one is soon to be cancelled.<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.<br />
<br />
==Openmoko Projects==<br />
<br />
===USB-Mode===<br />
I wrote a small pygtk application to switch USB Modes on the Freerunner.<br />
<br />
You can read my blog entry about it [http://www.techiem2.net/index.php?/archives/10-Freerunner-USB-Mode-Control-Program.html here] or directly download the archive [http://www.techiem2.net/files/usbmode.tar.gz here].<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Image:Usbmode.png|thumb|left|240|Upright|Border|USB-Mode]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/File:Usbmode.pngFile:Usbmode.png2008-10-11T01:43:53Z<p>Techiem2: USB-Mode Screenshot</p>
<hr />
<div>USB-Mode Screenshot</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22008-10-11T01:28:30Z<p>Techiem2: Added link to USB-Mode USB Mode switching application I wrote today</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com<br />
<br />
TWiki at Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com/twiki/bin/view<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Personal Laptop:''' ZaReason UltraLapSR dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (recently installed in preparation for some upcoming games)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Neo Freerunner<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' At&T Prepaid ($.20/minute - put $25 in account every 90 days)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my work laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
Ideally it should be running a SIP client with SRTP/ZRTP capabilities for secure communications.<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I'm now using my Freerunner as my cell phone on AT&T prepaid.<br />
My old one is soon to be cancelled.<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.<br />
<br />
==Openmoko Projects==<br />
<br />
===USB-Mode===<br />
I wrote a small pygtk application to switch USB Modes on the Freerunner.<br />
<br />
You can read my blog entry about it [http://www.techiem2.net/index.php?/archives/10-Freerunner-USB-Mode-Control-Program.html here] or directly download the archive [http://www.techiem2.net/files/usbmode.tar.gz here].</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22008-10-11T01:24:21Z<p>Techiem2: /* Cell Phone */</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com<br />
<br />
TWiki at Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com/twiki/bin/view<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Personal Laptop:''' ZaReason UltraLapSR dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (recently installed in preparation for some upcoming games)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Neo Freerunner<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' At&T Prepaid ($.20/minute - put $25 in account every 90 days)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my work laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
Ideally it should be running a SIP client with SRTP/ZRTP capabilities for secure communications.<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I'm now using my Freerunner as my cell phone on AT&T prepaid.<br />
My old one is soon to be cancelled.<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22008-10-11T01:23:19Z<p>Techiem2: /* My Portable Stuff */</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com<br />
<br />
TWiki at Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com/twiki/bin/view<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Personal Laptop:''' ZaReason UltraLapSR dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (recently installed in preparation for some upcoming games)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Neo Freerunner<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' At&T Prepaid ($.20/minute - put $25 in account every 90 days)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my work laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
Ideally it should be running a SIP client with SRTP/ZRTP capabilities for secure communications.<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I don't know if I would use it as a cell phone or not.<br />
<br />
There's only one GSM provider in my area (Cellular One) who apparently is probably being acquired by AT&T.<br />
<br />
AT&T and T-Mobile both look like their networks cover here, but they don't offer service here (I wonder if that would change if the AT&T/Cellular One buyout goes through...).<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Om_2008.9_UpdateTalk:Om 2008.9 Update2008-09-21T13:22:53Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>== Upgrading ==<br />
Is it possible to upgrade from 2008.8 without flashing the device? Is there a proper upgrade path? --[[User:Kbjorgensen|KB Jørgensen]] 07:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, if you had upgraded on 17 sept, you would have om2008.9. If you now update a 2008.8, you will be ahead of 2008.9. You must see the updates as a fluent line (that om is trying to give a name) and openmoko picks every month a new point release out of it. [[User:Dolfje|Dolfje]] 09:45, 20 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. That cleared things up alot. --[[User:Kbjorgensen|KB Jørgensen]] 11:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Oddities after upgrading ==<br />
After doing a flash to 2008.9 and installing illume-config, the carrier info no longer appears and I assume the low battery notification mentioned doesn't work (at least when I left my phone on for 5 hours last night the battery was down to 1 bar and wasn't red [not sure the actual level, I didn't think to check at the time]).<br />
<br />
Is there a way to fix this? -- [[User:Techiem2|TechieM2]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cardsSupported microSD cards2008-09-05T17:36:45Z<p>Techiem2: /* Cards by Vendor */ - added card, added a couple updated fields</p>
<hr />
<div>There are a plethora of Transflash / microSD / SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity) cards out there.<br />
<br />
The Neo FreeRunner supports up to 8GB SDHC cards.<br />
<br />
Some microSD cards appear to be too slow to work with the current default settings of the glamo driver, so some specific parameters must be set in uboot to use them (see https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743, and corresponding notes in the tables bellow).<br />
<br />
There had been a [http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=677 bug] in the SD device driver (s3cmci) which caused some trouble. Please make sure you use a recent kernel which applies our kernel patchset rev2832 or higher.<br />
<br />
Booting from SDHC requires a u-boot from 2008-07-23 or later. '''But pay attention''' : there are problems with SDHC cards at suspend time. More details from [[Booting from SD#Booting_from_SDHC_.2F_suspend_problems|Booting from SD]]<br />
<br />
Note that most vendors are using an irritating way of labeling the capacity of their cards (They are using the factor 1000 instead of 1024 for KB and MB). Therefore the real capacity of these cards will be about 5% less than the vendor's specification. For example, cards labelled ''6 GB'' will only have 5.7 GB of storage capacity.<br />
<br />
If you use a card not listed here, please add to this table.<br />
<br />
== Cards by Vendor ==<br />
{| border=1 |<br />
| Vendor || Model || Capacity || Speed || [[u-boot]] 1.1.6 || linux 2.6.17.14-fic5 || [[u-boot]] 1.2.0-moko8 svn1915 || [[u-boot]] 1.3.2-moko12 || linux 2.6.24+git75969 (2008.8 kernel as of Sept. 4, 2008)<br />
|-<br />
| A-Data || microSDHC-8GB || 8GB (SDHC) || class 4 || ? || {{yes}} || ? || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Corsair || CMFSDMICRO-512 || 512MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| extreMemory || AE56-1280R || 128MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| extreMemory || H256MS05 || 256MB || 60x || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| hama || 55371 || 256MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Intuix || IXMSDM128B60X || 128MB || 60x || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Kingston || SD-C512 || 512MB || ? || {{no}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Kingston || SD-C01G || 1GB || ? || {{yes}} || ? || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Kingston || SD-C02G || 2GB || ? || ? || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Kingston || SDC4 (N0043-012.A00LF) || 4GB || ? || ? || FSO MS2 / Linux 2.6.24: I/O Errors while formatting [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/varacanero Contact me here] || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Patriot || PSF128MCSD-RC || 128MB || ? || {{no}} || ? || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Patriot || PSF8GMCSDHC4 || 8GB || Class 4 || ? || ? || ? || {{yes}} || {{yes}}<br />
|-<br />
| PNY || P-MICROSD512-BX || 512MB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| PNY || P-MICROSD2GB-BX (card marked with MM8GR02GUACY) || 2GB || slow ? || ? || ? (Some work needed to get it running, see [https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 #1743] but apparently not enough) || ? || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Pretec || || 128MB || ? || ? || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-128 || 128MB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || unknown || 256MB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || unknown || 512MB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-1024-E10M || 1GB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQU-2048-E10M || 2GB || || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-4096-E11M || 4GB (SDHC) || || ? || {{yes}} || ? || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-6144-E11M || 6GB (SDHC) || || ? || {{yes}} || {{no}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQ-8192-E11M || 7GB (SDHC) || 4 || ? || {{yes}} || ? || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQY-8192-A11M || 8GB (SDHC) || || ? || {{yes}} || ? || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQR-8192-E12M || 8GB (SDHC) || 4 || ? || {{yes}} || ? || ||<br />
|-<br />
| SanDisk || SDSDQR-8192-???? || 8GB (SDHC) || 6 || ? || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Toshiba || SD-512R2W || 512MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || TS128MUSD || 128MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || TS256MUSD80 || 256MB || 80x || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || TS512MUSD || 512MB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || MM4GRO1GUACY || 1GB || || ? || {{yes}} || ? || ||<br />
|-<br />
| Transcend || TS4GUSDHC6 (card marked with MM8GR04GUACY) || 4GB (SDHC) || Class 6 || ? || {{yes}} (Some work needed to get it running, see [https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 #1743]) || ?|| ||<br />
|-<br />
| Verbatim || 47225 || 1GB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || ||<br />
|-<br />
| vox-fon || 1 GB || 1GB || || {{no}} || {{yes}} || || ||<br />
|-<br />
| (Intenso) || ? || 4GB (SDHC) || || {{no}} || {{yes}} (Some work needed to get it running, see [https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 #1743]) || u-boot from August, 2nd (1.3.1) boots fine) || ||<br />
|} <br />
<br />
Note that cards with a "'''no'''" may still work at times, but that we just have found their behaviour too erratic to consider acceptable.<br />
(Also note that this is a bug in our version of u-boot. The cards are probably fine.)<br />
<br />
[[Category:Neo1973 Hardware]]<br />
[[Category:Documentation]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:RotateTalk:Rotate2008-08-24T21:30:43Z<p>Techiem2: New page: This is a pretty neat little application. Too bad the screen doesn't recalibrate properly yet. :( -- Techiem2</p>
<hr />
<div>This is a pretty neat little application.<br />
<br />
Too bad the screen doesn't recalibrate properly yet. :(<br />
<br />
-- Techiem2</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Carriers/ATTTalk:Carriers/ATT2008-08-19T21:19:23Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>AT&T/Cingular specifies the artwork so they should all look the same for the same SKU other than the vendor identification so I'm not sure what benefit there is in describing the images.<br />
<br />
Except that some of the older SIM cards don't have anything, but markings to help denote what they are.<br />
<br />
== AT&T Prepaid Questions ==<br />
Q: What is the minimum amount you can refill your account with online?<br />
<br />
A: $15 according to reps at the AT&T store in our mall.<br />
<br />
<br />
Q: Can you set your account up to auto-refill?<br />
<br />
A: Not with the GoPhone prepay plans.<br />
<br />
<br />
Refill amounts <$25 extend the account for 30 days past the date of refill. <br />
<br />
Amounts $25+ extend the account for 90 days past the date of refill (so you want to refill near the end of the term).<br />
<br />
You can refill in store, by phone, or online.<br />
<br />
<br />
Q: What's the best way (if any) to ensure you get a SIM that will work with Freerunner?<br />
-----------------<br />
<br />
I picked up the $15 ($30 with $15 instant rebates) GoPhone starter kit at RadioShack.<br />
<br />
They setup account/phone/etc.<br />
<br />
When I got home I pulled the sim out and put it in my Freerunner and it worked.<br />
<br />
SMS doesn't seem to be working on my Freerunner though.<br />
<br />
The Messages app doesn't show any even though there should be at least a couple there unread. <br />
<br />
- Ok, a minute after this I got a message from ATT. Still don't know why the others haven't shown up...does Messages have to be running when you get a message?<br />
<br />
<br />
--[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] updated 17:13, 19 August 2008<br />
<br />
== This with Fireball success ==<br />
<br />
I wonder if those who have been successful with AT&T 3G cards are only finding 2G access at their locations. I put in my 4020 sim card and get "REGISTRATION DENIED" in 2 seconds. Waiting for a long period of time does not change that.<br />
--[[User:Sagacis|Sagacis]] 14:47, 6 August 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
<br />
== Non-AT&T not working ==<br />
How do i find out the SKU? There's a 13-Digit number followed by two letters on the back of my sim...<br />
<br />
My provider isn't AT&T - it's O2 Germany and I as well have a 3G card. I've tested two 3G Cards and they both return CME Error 15, while non-3G cards from the same provider work flawless. <br />
<br />
Full GSMD log is here: http://pastebin.com/f67ce2c25<br />
--[[User:Sh|Sh]]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Confirmed Some ATT Do work ==<br />
<br />
<br />
I don't know if this will help you guys or not, I was not able to get<br />
a good picture of the SIM itself, however, I have done a few things:<br />
<br />
My old ATT (Cingular SIM) did not work. I wish I had written down its<br />
model sorry. But I know it is one in the DOES not work list already.<br />
<br />
I got another one from the ATT store and it two failed. It was a G3<br />
Fireball SIM got the model number: 71234G / 3022<br />
<br />
Following up on the last post for bug 666, I did notice that my old<br />
phone, a Nokia which all SIM work with, did only have 6 leads, that<br />
contact squarely on the SIM, and the Runner has a 8, the last two of<br />
which (closest to the outside) fall right in between the grooves on<br />
the cards with the rounded lead face (the circular grooves going around).<br />
<br />
I took it up on my self, throwing warranty into the wind, to modify the<br />
pins, to make them contact at least the two inner rounded leads on SIM (the last set), I<br />
managed to mangle them enough doing so, and I want to say I had them<br />
moved the right place, but it still did not work, I am no electrician,<br />
and the tools at hand were clubs compared to the intricacy of the device.<br />
None the less, I am confident they were close enough to touch, and as<br />
I said, it still did not seem to work.<br />
<br />
After having spent all day doing no work and not getting this working,<br />
I decided to go boogie boarding, and blow off the waisted day. On my<br />
way home, I decided to stop off at the Santa Monica ATT store, and<br />
after waiting through a 45 min line of people hopeless for IPOD's (and<br />
me showing off my new Moko :D ) I got a different SIM card:<br />
<br />
71234O / 4022<br />
<br />
As I crossed the street, cars crashing into phone poles, with my only<br />
attention on the flickering screen. my momentary fall into the black<br />
hole of despair, was quickly shattered when I restarted the gsmd.<br />
Yaaaaaayyy!!!!, there was much rejoicing, jumping in the air, and<br />
dancing ludicrously in the middle of the street. To which I am sure<br />
people thought I was crazy!<br />
<br />
--I, on the other hand have a 71234G/3022 that will only register sometimes, sometimes jostling it around in its slot works, sometimes not, however, as a commenter mentioned in the bug report, that may be a false lead. If you have any of these cards that has this behavior, or a card that has been noted to have problems, think about posting on the bug comments, as to your experience.[[User:Sirkha|sirkha]] 16:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I'm lovin' it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
<br />
'''Edit by UndrWater'''<br />
''71234G / 3022:'' <br />
There was a bad batch of these cards made with the copper leads offset on the paper (copper completely to the edge of the paper, not centered). What would happen is the copper on the edge would touch the OM's SIM card holder tab. I don't know if this shorted the card, or just didn't allow enough pins for service on the OM...but replacing the card with another that has the copper centered on paper was key.<br />
<br />
I just picked up the 71234O / 3022 with the centered copper, and it registered within 30 seconds of OM loading. Bonus: better reception than my Treo. AT&T staff may try to charge you $25 for a replacement SIM...but if you can demonstrate the bad manufacture of the SIM, you'll probably not have to fight too hard. ;)<br />
<br />
-Russell<br />
<br />
== Merge ==<br />
<br />
This seems to not be AT&T specific. How about moving the information to [GSM network registration]?</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Carriers/ATTTalk:Carriers/ATT2008-08-19T21:16:08Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>AT&T/Cingular specifies the artwork so they should all look the same for the same SKU other than the vendor identification so I'm not sure what benefit there is in describing the images.<br />
<br />
Except that some of the older SIM cards don't have anything, but markings to help denote what they are.<br />
<br />
== AT&T Prepaid Questions ==<br />
Q: What is the minimum amount you can refill your account with online?<br />
<br />
A: $15 according to reps at the AT&T store in our mall.<br />
<br />
<br />
Q: Can you set your account up to auto-refill?<br />
<br />
A: Not with the GoPhone prepay plans.<br />
<br />
<br />
Refill amounts <$25 extend the account for 30 days past the date of refill. <br />
<br />
Amounts $25+ extend the account for 90 days past the date of refill (so you want to refill near the end of the term).<br />
<br />
You can refill in store, by phone, or online.<br />
<br />
<br />
Q: What's the best way (if any) to ensure you get a SIM that will work with Freerunner?<br />
-----------------<br />
<br />
I picked up the $15 ($30 with $15 instant rebates) GoPhone starter kit at RadioShack.<br />
<br />
They setup account/phone/etc.<br />
<br />
When I got home I pulled the sim out and put it in my Freerunner and it worked.<br />
<br />
SMS doesn't seem to be working on my Freerunner though.<br />
<br />
The Messages app doesn't show any even though there should be at least a couple there unread. <br />
<br />
<br />
--[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] updated 17:13, 19 August 2008<br />
<br />
== This with Fireball success ==<br />
<br />
I wonder if those who have been successful with AT&T 3G cards are only finding 2G access at their locations. I put in my 4020 sim card and get "REGISTRATION DENIED" in 2 seconds. Waiting for a long period of time does not change that.<br />
--[[User:Sagacis|Sagacis]] 14:47, 6 August 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
<br />
== Non-AT&T not working ==<br />
How do i find out the SKU? There's a 13-Digit number followed by two letters on the back of my sim...<br />
<br />
My provider isn't AT&T - it's O2 Germany and I as well have a 3G card. I've tested two 3G Cards and they both return CME Error 15, while non-3G cards from the same provider work flawless. <br />
<br />
Full GSMD log is here: http://pastebin.com/f67ce2c25<br />
--[[User:Sh|Sh]]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Confirmed Some ATT Do work ==<br />
<br />
<br />
I don't know if this will help you guys or not, I was not able to get<br />
a good picture of the SIM itself, however, I have done a few things:<br />
<br />
My old ATT (Cingular SIM) did not work. I wish I had written down its<br />
model sorry. But I know it is one in the DOES not work list already.<br />
<br />
I got another one from the ATT store and it two failed. It was a G3<br />
Fireball SIM got the model number: 71234G / 3022<br />
<br />
Following up on the last post for bug 666, I did notice that my old<br />
phone, a Nokia which all SIM work with, did only have 6 leads, that<br />
contact squarely on the SIM, and the Runner has a 8, the last two of<br />
which (closest to the outside) fall right in between the grooves on<br />
the cards with the rounded lead face (the circular grooves going around).<br />
<br />
I took it up on my self, throwing warranty into the wind, to modify the<br />
pins, to make them contact at least the two inner rounded leads on SIM (the last set), I<br />
managed to mangle them enough doing so, and I want to say I had them<br />
moved the right place, but it still did not work, I am no electrician,<br />
and the tools at hand were clubs compared to the intricacy of the device.<br />
None the less, I am confident they were close enough to touch, and as<br />
I said, it still did not seem to work.<br />
<br />
After having spent all day doing no work and not getting this working,<br />
I decided to go boogie boarding, and blow off the waisted day. On my<br />
way home, I decided to stop off at the Santa Monica ATT store, and<br />
after waiting through a 45 min line of people hopeless for IPOD's (and<br />
me showing off my new Moko :D ) I got a different SIM card:<br />
<br />
71234O / 4022<br />
<br />
As I crossed the street, cars crashing into phone poles, with my only<br />
attention on the flickering screen. my momentary fall into the black<br />
hole of despair, was quickly shattered when I restarted the gsmd.<br />
Yaaaaaayyy!!!!, there was much rejoicing, jumping in the air, and<br />
dancing ludicrously in the middle of the street. To which I am sure<br />
people thought I was crazy!<br />
<br />
--I, on the other hand have a 71234G/3022 that will only register sometimes, sometimes jostling it around in its slot works, sometimes not, however, as a commenter mentioned in the bug report, that may be a false lead. If you have any of these cards that has this behavior, or a card that has been noted to have problems, think about posting on the bug comments, as to your experience.[[User:Sirkha|sirkha]] 16:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I'm lovin' it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
<br />
'''Edit by UndrWater'''<br />
''71234G / 3022:'' <br />
There was a bad batch of these cards made with the copper leads offset on the paper (copper completely to the edge of the paper, not centered). What would happen is the copper on the edge would touch the OM's SIM card holder tab. I don't know if this shorted the card, or just didn't allow enough pins for service on the OM...but replacing the card with another that has the copper centered on paper was key.<br />
<br />
I just picked up the 71234O / 3022 with the centered copper, and it registered within 30 seconds of OM loading. Bonus: better reception than my Treo. AT&T staff may try to charge you $25 for a replacement SIM...but if you can demonstrate the bad manufacture of the SIM, you'll probably not have to fight too hard. ;)<br />
<br />
-Russell<br />
<br />
== Merge ==<br />
<br />
This seems to not be AT&T specific. How about moving the information to [GSM network registration]?</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers/ATTCarriers/ATT2008-08-19T21:08:08Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>== [http://www.wireless.att.com/ AT&T] ==<br />
<br />
The current status of the SIM cards provided by AT&T is that many 3G SIM cards are problematic with the neo1973 SH1. This issue is known and there is a bug report for tracking progress: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=666)<br />
<br />
Below are two tables to help users report their success or failure. If your card is not listed or have different results, please update the tables below.<br />
<br />
(Note: When adding to the tables, please do not include the 20 digit ICCID, as this is your SIM's unique id. If you do your phone company will be able to track you down and 1984 may overpower 1973)<br />
<br />
'''SIM cards that do NOT work:'''<br />
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin: 0em " cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="1"<br />
!5 Digit SKU !! Manufacturer Code !! 4 digit Vendor/Version !! Badge !! Notes<br />
|-<br />
| 63510 || G || 3001 || 64k smartchip || On Freerunner: +CME ERROR: 10 for AT+CFUN=`, +CME Error 13 for AT+CIMI, and EVENT: Netreg searching for network <br />
EVENT: Netreg registration denied <br />
cme error: 32<br />
RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 32'<br />
EVENT: Signal Quality: 31<br />
for AT+COPS<br />
|-<br />
| 63512 || G || 3001 || 64k smartchip || +CME Error 10 for AT+CFUN=1 and +CME Error 13 for AT+CIMI<br />
|-<br />
| 63513 || G || 3001 || 64k smartchip || does not respond to at+cimi<br />
|-<br />
| 63698 || G || 3002 || 64K smartchip || does not respond to at+cimi<br />
|-<br />
| 64205 || G || 3020 || 64K smartchip 3G(c) on back || does not respond to at+cimi<br />
|-<br />
| 63698 || G || 4004 || 64k smartchip || +CME Error 10 for AT+CFUN=1 and +CME Error 13 for AT+CIMI<br />
|-<br />
| 64205 || O || 4020 || 64K smartchip || Has 3Gc on back<br />
|-<br />
| 71234 || D || 2022 || blazing 3G fireball || CME ERROR 10 and 13, with three different cards. This seems to be the SIM type currently used for AT&T Gophones. :(<br />
|-<br />
| 71234 || G || 3022 || blazing 3G fireball ||<br />
|-<br />
| 71234 || G || 3022 || blazing 3G fireball || libgsmd -m shell; CME Error: 32 <br />
|-<br />
| 71234 || G || 3022 || blazing 3G fireball || Does not register, suspect mis-aligned pins [http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm27/SchadowScythe/?action=view&current=3gFireball.png Screenshot]<br />
|-<br />
| 71234 || O || 4021 || blazing 3G fireball ||<br />
|-<br />
| 73000 || O || 4021 || blazing 3G fireball || This sim will not work for me, although a user has gotten it to work below. Those steps only produce CME ERROR 13, regardless of amount of waiting.<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
'''SIM cards that DO work:'''<br />
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin: 0em " cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="1"<br />
!5 Digit SKU !! Manufacturer Code !! 4 digit Vendor/Version !! Badge !! Notes<br />
|-<br />
| ???|| ? || ??? || AT&T || Old cingular/AT&T "AT&T Wireless" written on it, blue SIM, no other info on it (except 20 digit id)<br />
|-<br />
| 62095 || A || ? || 32K GT || at+cimi works, found NEW card on ebay and registered fine with AT&T<br />
|-<br />
| 63698 || A || 1002 || 64K smartchip || Returns proper info with at+cimi <br />
|-<br />
| 63698 || A || 1003 || 64K smartchip || Returns proper info with at+cimi <br />
|-<br />
| 63698 || G || 3003 || 64K smartchip || Returns proper info with at+cimi <br />
|-<br />
| 63698 || G || 3003 || 64K smartchip || registers with FreeRunner right out of the box (2007.2)<br />
|-<br />
| 63698 || G || 3004 || 64K smartchip || Returns proper info with at+cimi <br />
|-<br />
| 71234 || G || 3022 || blazing 3G fireball || registers, sends/receives calls with FreeRunner right out of the box. <br />
|-<br />
| 71234 || G || 3022 || blazing 3G fireball || usually registers/sends/receives instantly-- sometime needs a reboot and then registers. AT&T corporate suggested I go to a true AT&T store that sells iPhones, for the SIM that worked!<br />
|-<br />
| 71234 || G || 3022 || blazing 3G fireball || $15 ($30 with $15 instant rebates) GoPhone kit at RadioShack. Pulled the sim out of the kit phone when I got home, stuck it in my Freerunner, and it worked. SMS doesn't seem to be working though (nothing shows up in the messages app).<br />
|-<br />
| 71234 || O || 4022 || blazing 3G fireball || WalMart/RadioShack $18 Cingular Go phone package. This chip was also given with a contract plan. (Three confirmed working.)[17 July 08 confirmed 4th working w/Family 500 anytime] <br />
|-<br />
| 71234 || O || 4022 || blazing 3G fireball || Two more confirmed working with FreeRunner. Previous 4021 chip did not work properly.<br />
|-<br />
| 71234 || O || 4022 || blazing 3G fireball || It only partially worked, at first. (I had reception, but it always said "Registering..." in the upper-left of the screen.) After wiggling the sim card slightly, and rebooting the phone, it eventually changed from &quot;Registering&quot; to &quot;AT&amp;T&quot;.<br />
|-<br />
| 73000 || O || 4021 || blazing 3G fireball || tried it using libgsm-tool -m shell (O, R). Just have to wait for 30-40 sec after registering. Then you can make calls consistently.<br />
|-<br />
| 73000 || G || 3021 || blazing 3G fireball || Works with Freerunner, but placement of SIM is the key. Shifted it slightly down and it registers reliably<br />
|}<br />
<br />
Vendor Codes:<br />
* O = Oberthur Card Systems<br />
* G = Gemalto (formerly Gemplus)<br />
* A = Axalto<br />
* D = Giesecke & Devrient<br />
<br />
For info on the 71234 4021 see http://www.oberthurcs.com/getpage.aspx?id=65#application<br />
<br />
I had a non-compatible SIM card, but it took only a few minutes in an AT&T Store to have them bring up my account, give me a new card, and double check that it works. They generally seem friendly, and it's pretty easy. Just say "Hi, I have an unlocked phone, and my current SIM card doesn't work. Is there any way that I can get another one?"<br />
<br />
Note: AT&T claims they cannot reactivate a previously deactivated SIM card. The CSR may give you the choice to force the activation at the risk of losing the current phone number! A word of warning.<br />
<br />
Question: Suppose you have a SIM card listed on the does NOT work chart. How can one buy one of the SIM cards that does work?<br />
<br />
Answer: A 71234(O)/4022 SIM can be had on ebay for $4 including shipping at<br />
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATT-3G-SIM-CARD-4-SALE-BRAND-NEW-COMMISSIONABLE-SWAP_W0QQitemZ270245436267QQihZ017QQcategoryZ29778QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem<br />
I have received this SIM and it works. Yay.<br />
<br />
I also bought this same SIM card, the eBay seller has prompt shipping and good prices. When you get the SIM card simply call customer support on a different phone and have your old and new sim cards out of the phone so you can give the 20 digit ID number to activate the new card. The activation is almost instantaneous. I highly recommend this cheap and easy solution if you have an unsupported SIM.<br />
<br />
I'm one more person that bought this card, except that I did not have one yet and I wanted to get one that I knew would work. You don't have to call customer support to activate it if you are not swapping, you can just go here https://www.wireless.att.com/activations/.<br />
<br />
== Compatible Plans ==<br />
<br />
AT&T Wireless (formerly Cingular ) offers the following plans:<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin: 0em " cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="1"<br />
|Plan Name<br />
|Monthly Cost (USD)<br />
|Anytime Minutes<br />
|Nights/Weekend Minutes<br />
|Mobile to Mobile Minutes <br />
|-<br />
|Nation 450 w/Rollover<br />
|$39.99<br />
|450<br />
|5000<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|-<br />
|Nation 900 w/Rollover<br />
|$59.99<br />
|900<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|-<br />
|Nation 1350 w/Rollover<br />
|$79.99<br />
|1350<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|-<br />
|Nation 2000 w/Rollover<br />
|$99.99<br />
|2000<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|-<br />
|Nation 4000 w/Rollover<br />
|$149.99<br />
|4000<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|-<br />
|Nation 6000 w/Rollover<br />
|$199.99<br />
|6000<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The "anytime minutes" roll over from month to month if you do not use all of them.<br />
<br />
AT&T also offers discounts on plans for students and corporate partners (IE: If you work for Microsoft, IBM, etc).<br />
<br />
== Prepay Options ==<br />
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin: 0em " cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="1"<br />
|Rate<br />
|Daily Access Fee*<br />
|Mobile to Mobile Minutes<br />
|-<br />
|$.10/minute<br />
|$1.00 per day, ONLY on days you use your phone<br />
|Unlimited<br />
|-<br />
|$.25/minute<br />
|N/A <br />
| <br />
|}<br />
<br />
All Pay As You Go Plans include:<br />
<br />
* Rollover® Balance<br />
* Nationwide Long Distance<br />
* $10 of airtime<br />
<br />
This information was found at this site:<br />
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/go-phones/pyg-plans-phones.jsp<br />
<br />
== Pick Your Plan Options ==<br />
ATT's GoPhones also have a "Pick Your Plan" option described here:<br />
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/go-phones/pyp-plans-phones.jsp<br />
<br />
These plans require no contract and have an option to get unlimited data transfer for $19.99/mo. <br />
This may be the cheapest non-contract method to get unlimited data.<br />
<br />
I bought the AT&T GoPhone package from Best Buy for $14.99 that includes the Motorola c168i. This phone came with the Blazing Fireball 3G SIM 71234 O 4022, and it works with my FreeRunner. I have made and received calls and have received SMS text messages using this SIM card on AT&T's Pick Your Plan service.<br />
--[[User:Brianwc|Brianwc]] 06:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Data Access Plans ==<br />
<br />
Browse Data Access Plans - http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-plans/data-cell-phone-plans.jsp?zipPass=true<br />
<br />
* Media Max 200 Bundle: Includes unlimited data and 200 text messages for $19.99/month. This is in addition to regular voice service and is tied to a specific SIM card and phone number (doesn't give all family plan members unlimited data).<br />
* ATT offers data access on *Every* plan, '''including prepay'''. If you don't have a data access "plan", you are billed $0.01/KB for transfer. Expect all transfers to be rounded in the carriers favor.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Carriers]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:USB_hostTalk:USB host2008-07-25T03:19:20Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>I picked up one of these cables to try:<br />
<br />
http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=1510&sku=28107<br />
<br />
I hooked up a USB A female-female adapter to the data/power end and to a dual PS/2 to USB keyboard/mouse adapter with a TypeMatrix 2020 keyboard on it.<br />
<br />
I hooked the aux power line to my laptop.<br />
<br />
While it worked, eventually the battery drained to deep discharge (I had WiFi enabled and GSM/BT/BPS disabled - Power Management was disabled).<br />
<br />
When I looked at the power info on the Freerunner when it was still in normal USB mode, I found that the Aux line only supplies 100mA (charger_type file) and the chgmode file says "play-only".<br />
<br />
Also, the directory for the charge info is /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/ on the Freerunner and it appears the setting for fast charge mode is simply "fast" on the Freerunner instead of "fast_cccv" (at least that's what shows up in the chgmode file when hooked up USB).<br />
<br />
--[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 23:08, 24 July 2008</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:USB_hostTalk:USB host2008-07-25T03:14:29Z<p>Techiem2: Cable and keyboard test on Freerunner</p>
<hr />
<div>I picked up one of these cables to try:<br />
<br />
http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=1510&sku=28107<br />
<br />
I hooked up a USB A female-female adapter to the data/power end and to a dual PS/2 to USB keyboard/mouse adapter with a TypeMatrix 2020 keyboard on it.<br />
<br />
I hooked the aux power line to my laptop.<br />
<br />
While it worked, eventually the battery drained to deep discharge (I had WiFi enabled and GSM/BT/BPS disabled - Power Management was disabled).<br />
<br />
When I looked at the power info on the Freerunner when it was still in normal USB mode, I found that the Aux line only supplies 100mA (charger_type file) and the chgstate file says "play only".<br />
<br />
Also, the directory for the charge info is /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/ on the Freerunner and it appears the setting for fast charge mode is simply "fast" on the Freerunner instead of "fast_cccv" (at least that's what shows up in the chgmode file when hooked up USB).<br />
<br />
--[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 23:08, 24 July 2008</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Carriers/ATTTalk:Carriers/ATT2008-07-23T23:34:41Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>AT&T/Cingular specifies the artwork so they should all look the same for the same SKU other than the vendor identification so I'm not sure what benefit there is in describing the images.<br />
<br />
Except that some of the older SIM cards don't have anything, but markings to help denote what they are.<br />
<br />
== AT&T Prepaid Questions ==<br />
Q: What is the minimum amount you can refill your account with online?<br />
<br />
A: $15 according to reps at the AT&T store in our mall.<br />
<br />
<br />
Q: Can you set your account up to auto-refill?<br />
<br />
A: Not with the GoPhone prepay plans.<br />
<br />
<br />
Refill amounts <$25 extend the account for 30 days past the date of refill. <br />
<br />
Amounts $25+ extend the account for 90 days past the date of refill (so you want to refill near the end of the term).<br />
<br />
You can refill in store, by phone, or online.<br />
<br />
<br />
Q: What's the best way (if any) to ensure you get a SIM that will work with Freerunner?<br />
<br />
<br />
--[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] updated 19:19, 23 July 2008<br />
<br />
== This with Fireball success ==<br />
<br />
I wonder if those who have been successful with AT&T 3G cards are only finding 2G access at their locations. I put in my 4020 sim card and get "REGISTRATION DENIED" in 2 seconds. Waiting for a long period of time does not change that.<br />
--[[User:Sagacis|Sagacis]] 14:47, 6 August 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
<br />
== Non-AT&T not working ==<br />
How do i find out the SKU? There's a 13-Digit number followed by two letters on the back of my sim...<br />
<br />
My provider isn't AT&T - it's O2 Germany and I as well have a 3G card. I've tested two 3G Cards and they both return CME Error 15, while non-3G cards from the same provider work flawless. <br />
<br />
Full GSMD log is here: http://pastebin.com/f67ce2c25<br />
--[[User:Sh|Sh]]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Confirmed Some ATT Do work ==<br />
<br />
<br />
I don't know if this will help you guys or not, I was not able to get<br />
a good picture of the SIM itself, however, I have done a few things:<br />
<br />
My old ATT (Cingular SIM) did not work. I wish I had written down its<br />
model sorry. But I know it is one in the DOES not work list already.<br />
<br />
I got another one from the ATT store and it two failed. It was a G3<br />
Fireball SIM got the model number: 71234G / 3022<br />
<br />
Following up on the last post for bug 666, I did notice that my old<br />
phone, a Nokia which all SIM work with, did only have 6 leads, that<br />
contact squarely on the SIM, and the Runner has a 8, the last two of<br />
which (closest to the outside) fall right in between the grooves on<br />
the cards with the rounded lead face (the circular grooves going around).<br />
<br />
I took it up on my self, throwing warranty into the wind, to modify the<br />
pins, to make them contact at least the two inner rounded leads on SIM (the last set), I<br />
managed to mangle them enough doing so, and I want to say I had them<br />
moved the right place, but it still did not work, I am no electrician,<br />
and the tools at hand were clubs compared to the intricacy of the device.<br />
None the less, I am confident they were close enough to touch, and as<br />
I said, it still did not seem to work.<br />
<br />
After having spent all day doing no work and not getting this working,<br />
I decided to go boogie boarding, and blow off the waisted day. On my<br />
way home, I decided to stop off at the Santa Monica ATT store, and<br />
after waiting through a 45 min line of people hopeless for IPOD's (and<br />
me showing off my new Moko :D ) I got a different SIM card:<br />
<br />
71234O / 4022<br />
<br />
As I crossed the street, cars crashing into phone poles, with my only<br />
attention on the flickering screen. my momentary fall into the black<br />
hole of despair, was quickly shattered when I restarted the gsmd.<br />
Yaaaaaayyy!!!!, there was much rejoicing, jumping in the air, and<br />
dancing ludicrously in the middle of the street. To which I am sure<br />
people thought I was crazy!<br />
<br />
I'm lovin' it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Where_is_my_Freerunner%3FWhere is my Freerunner?2008-07-19T00:44:27Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>Where is my FreeRunner? In order to give you an idea of when your FreeRunner will be shipped, this is a list of order numbers against shipping confirmation email dates. These numbers have been taken from the community mailing list and the #openmoko IRC channel. <br />
<br />
Note that there may be gaps in the order numbers, and the assumption here is that lower order numbers ship first. Also note that the tracking email has a subject similar to "UPS Ship Notification, Tracking Number ..." and is from "auto-notify@ups.com" or "pkginfo@ups.com" so you may miss it if you're searching for "moko" as a keyword.<br />
<br />
Here are example mail headers:<br />
<br />
From pkginfo@ups.com Fri Jul 11 21:10:55 2008<br />
Return-Path: pkginfo@ups.com<br />
From: UPS Quantum View <auto-notify@ups.com><br />
Reply-To: auto-notify@ups.com<br />
Subject: UPS Ship Notification, TraNumber 1Z0000000000000000<br />
<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="6" width=100% border=1<br />
!Order Number<br />
!Confirmation/Shipping Date<br />
!Bulk Order?<br />
|-<br />
|1068<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1087<br />
|2008-07-08<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1089<br />
|2008-07-08<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1134<br />
|Confirmed: 2008-07-03, Shipped: 2008-07-09, Scheduled: 2008-07-16, Delivered: Not yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1161<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1167<br />
|Confirmed: 2008-07-03, Shipped: 2008-07-10, Scheduled: 2008-07-17 (@Atlanta, GA), Delivered: Not yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1203<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|[[GroupSales#Ohio_.2F_Michigan|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1207<br />
|Confirmed: 2008-07-03, Shipped: 2008-07-15, Scheduled: 2008-07-22. No idea why the weird delay. No response from OM when I asked them why all my friends had tracking numbers and I didn't (unless finally getting a tracking number was a response).<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1210<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|[[GroupSales#Midwest|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1220<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1294<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1326<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1328<br />
|2008-07-10 (Scheduled Delivery: 2008-07-16)<br />
|[[GroupSales#Texas|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1345<br />
|2008-07-10 Notification by Phone from UPS<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|1356<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1363<br />
|2008-07-10<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1390<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1396<br />
|2008-07-10; Delivered 2008-07-17<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1421<br />
|2008-07-10, expected delivery: 2008-07-17<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1437<br />
|2008-07-10, delivery target 2008-07-16 in DFW area, ground<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1459<br />
|2008-07-10[http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&Requester=NES&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&loc=en_US&tracknum=1Z5VX0383554559523]<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1488<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 5:58 PM (GMT-7)<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1513<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 19:58 EDT<br />
|[[GroupSales#Pacific_Northwest|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1539<br />
|2008-07-10 @ 4:58 PM (GMT-8)[http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&Requester=NES&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&loc=en_US&tracknum=1Z5VX0384254800060] Delived on 2008-07-14<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1547<br />
|UPS Delivered Northern CA, 2008-07-11 @ AM (PST)<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1562<br />
|UPS Notification shipped 07/10/08, due 07/15/08 Ground to Boulder. Delivered.<br />
|[[GroupSales#Boulder|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1669<br />
|2008-07-10<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1676<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 11 July, Ground<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1692<br />
|Picked up from Fremont on 10 July 2008<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|1694<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 14 July, 2nd day air<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1702<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 16 July, Ground<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1713<br />
|Order confirmation on 2008/07/03-23:34:53 UTC. Tracking info sent 2008/07/15-23:55:20 UTC.<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1724<br />
|UPS Notification received July 14, 17:06 -0700 -- Expected July 16 to Vancouver<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1750<br />
|Yes 10-July-2008, expected delivery: 15-July-2008<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|1773<br />
|2008-07-03 10:07PM EST Order confirmed and nothing else as of July 11 8:35PM EST<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1781<br />
|2008-07-03 Order confirmed. Recieved email about confirm phone number, quoted ship date of July 14 but still nothing.<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1787<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 4:58 PM <br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1796<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 7:58PM edt, estimated delivery date 7/17/08 via UPS Ground<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1812<br />
|Ordered July 4@00:20 (Eastern). Charged July 8. Shipping notice: July 15@19:55. <br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1813<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 14 July, 2nd day air<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1827<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10, scheduled delivery 7/17/2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1828<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 5:20 PM (Pacific Time), delivery date: 7/17/2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1843<br />
|Ordered July 3rd, 10:15pm PST, Tracking notice came in July 11 5:10pm PST, Arrived 10am July 15 2008, right on schedule<br />
|[[GroupSales#Los_Angeles|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1944<br />
|Ordered July 4th, 6:47am EST, tracking notice came in July 11 8:10pm EST, ETA: 7/16/2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2014<br />
|2008-07-11<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2049<br />
|Tracking as of 2008-07-11 17:00 MST sched for 7/15 -> Got it! <br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2054<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-11, scheduled delivery 7/17/2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2165<br />
|Ordered: 2008-07-04 / Shipping Notice: 2008-07-11 / Scheduled Delivery: 2008-07-15<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2204<br />
|Delivery Confirmed July 14, 2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2237<br />
|Ordered 2008-07-04 18:21 EST5EDT. Shipping notice: 2008-07-11 20:10. Scheduled Delivery: 2007-07-18. 2007-07-18: UPS somehow missed the 2 people in the house when they came to deliver it. I drove over and picked it up myself @19:30 (I live a mile from the warehouse).<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2243<br />
|Ordered 2008-07-04 19:09 -0400. Shipping notice: 2008-07-11 20:10:25 -0400 Scheduled Delivery: 2007-07-16 (2nd day Air) Tracking: [http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&Requester=NES&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&loc=en_US&tracknum=1Z5VX0383553094821]<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2267<br />
|Received tracking information 2008-07-10 19:58 -0400. We ordered 2nd Day but they're shipping Ground. :(<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|2278<br />
|Ordered 2008-07-04 20:58 -0700. Ship notification received 2008-07-11 17:12 -0700. Scheduled Delivery: 15-July-2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2318<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2340<br />
|Not Yet/NA (Picked up in Fremont)<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|2435<br />
|Received tracking information 2008-07-11 17:12 -0700. Shipping to Canada<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2442<br />
|Ship notification received 2008-07-11 21:10 -0300. Scheduled Delivery: 18-July-2008 / Reprogrammed Scheduled Delivery: 21-July-2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2488<br />
|Not Yet (Ordered Sunday, Jul 06, 2008)<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2491<br />
|Ordered Sunday, Jul 06, 2008. Received UPS tracking number 2008-07-14. Scheduled Delivery 2008-07-17<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2607<br />
|2008-07-11 Received UPS tracking number ETA 2008-07-21<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2712<br />
|2008-07-11 Received UPS tracking number ETA 2008-07-17<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2741<br />
|Ordered Monday, Jul 7, 2008; Ship notification received 2008-07-11 8:10 PM ET; Scheduled Delivery: 15-July-2008 2nd day Air<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|3007<br />
|Ordered late Tuesday, Jul 8, 2008; CC charged late that week. 2008-07-18: Still no shipping notification, but UPS tried to deliver something today. Have to wait all weekend to find out if this was it, but am assuming so.<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|3107<br />
|Ordered/Confirmed 2008-07-09, CC charged 2008-07-11, shipping notification on 7/14, delivered on 7/17. (3-day)<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|3032<br />
|2008-07-11 Received UPS tracking number<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|3133<br />
|Ordered and Confirmed 2008-07-09; Credit card debit 2008-07-12; no shipping notification yet.<br />
|No<br />
|}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[category:Purchase]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22008-07-15T15:38:29Z<p>Techiem2: /* My Portable Stuff */</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com<br />
<br />
TWiki at Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com/twiki/bin/view<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Personal Laptop:''' ZaReason UltraLapSR dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (recently installed in preparation for some upcoming games)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Audiovox Snapper<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' Virgin Mobile Prepaid ($5.30/month with taxes charged every 90 days, $.18/min - I don't use my phone much)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my work laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
Ideally it should be running a SIP client with SRTP/ZRTP capabilities for secure communications.<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I don't know if I would use it as a cell phone or not.<br />
<br />
There's only one GSM provider in my area (Cellular One) who apparently is probably being acquired by AT&T.<br />
<br />
AT&T and T-Mobile both look like their networks cover here, but they don't offer service here (I wonder if that would change if the AT&T/Cellular One buyout goes through...).<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Carriers/ATTTalk:Carriers/ATT2008-07-15T15:37:00Z<p>Techiem2: /* ATT Prepaid Questions */</p>
<hr />
<div>AT&T/Cingular specifies the artwork so they should all look the same for the same SKU other than the vendor identification so I'm not sure what benefit there is in describing the images.<br />
<br />
Except that some of the older SIM cards don't have anything, but markings to help denote what they are.<br />
<br />
== ATT Prepaid Questions ==<br />
What is the minimum amount you can refill your account with online?<br />
<br />
Can you set your account up to auto-refill?<br />
<br />
What's the best way (if any) to ensure you get a SIM that will work with Freerunner?<br />
<br />
<br />
Since cards < $25 expire after 30 days, but your account balance rolls over when you refill, it would be good for those of us who rarely use our phones to be able to drop say $5/month into their account (this is basically how my current Virgin Mobile prepaid works - $15 auto-charged every 90 days - bus VM isn't GSM....).<br />
<br />
--[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 11:36, 15 July 2008<br />
<br />
== This with Fireball success ==<br />
<br />
I wonder if those who have been successful with AT&T 3G cards are only finding 2G access at their locations. I put in my 4020 sim card and get "REGISTRATION DENIED" in 2 seconds. Waiting for a long period of time does not change that.<br />
--[[User:Sagacis|Sagacis]] 14:47, 6 August 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
<br />
== Non-AT&T not working ==<br />
How do i find out the SKU? There's a 13-Digit number followed by two letters on the back of my sim...<br />
<br />
My provider isn't AT&T - it's O2 Germany and I as well have a 3G card. I've tested two 3G Cards and they both return CME Error 15, while non-3G cards from the same provider work flawless. <br />
<br />
Full GSMD log is here: http://pastebin.com/f67ce2c25<br />
--[[User:Sh|Sh]]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Confirmed Some ATT Do work ==<br />
<br />
<br />
I don't know if this will help you guys or not, I was not able to get<br />
a good picture of the SIM itself, however, I have done a few things:<br />
<br />
My old ATT (Cingular SIM) did not work. I wish I had written down its<br />
model sorry. But I know it is one in the DOES not work list already.<br />
<br />
I got another one from the ATT store and it two failed. It was a G3<br />
Fireball SIM got the model number: 71234G / 3022<br />
<br />
Following up on the last post for bug 666, I did notice that my old<br />
phone, a Nokia which all SIM work with, did only have 6 leads, that<br />
contact squarely on the SIM, and the Runner has a 8, the last two of<br />
which (closest to the outside) fall right in between the grooves on<br />
the cards with the rounded lead face (the circular grooves going around).<br />
<br />
I took it up on my self, throwing warranty into the wind, to modify the<br />
pins, to make them contact at least the two inner rounded leads on SIM (the last set), I<br />
managed to mangle them enough doing so, and I want to say I had them<br />
moved the right place, but it still did not work, I am no electrician,<br />
and the tools at hand were clubs compared to the intricacy of the device.<br />
None the less, I am confident they were close enough to touch, and as<br />
I said, it still did not seem to work.<br />
<br />
After having spent all day doing no work and not getting this working,<br />
I decided to go boogie boarding, and blow off the waisted day. On my<br />
way home, I decided to stop off at the Santa Monica ATT store, and<br />
after waiting through a 45 min line of people hopeless for IPOD's (and<br />
me showing off my new Moko :D ) I got a different SIM card:<br />
<br />
71234O / 4022<br />
<br />
As I crossed the street, cars crashing into phone poles, with my only<br />
attention on the flickering screen. my momentary fall into the black<br />
hole of despair, was quickly shattered when I restarted the gsmd.<br />
Yaaaaaayyy!!!!, there was much rejoicing, jumping in the air, and<br />
dancing ludicrously in the middle of the street. To which I am sure<br />
people thought I was crazy!<br />
<br />
I'm lovin' it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Carriers/ATTTalk:Carriers/ATT2008-07-15T15:36:22Z<p>Techiem2: /* ATT Prepaid Questions */</p>
<hr />
<div>AT&T/Cingular specifies the artwork so they should all look the same for the same SKU other than the vendor identification so I'm not sure what benefit there is in describing the images.<br />
<br />
Except that some of the older SIM cards don't have anything, but markings to help denote what they are.<br />
<br />
== ATT Prepaid Questions ==<br />
What is the minimum amount you can refill your account with online?<br />
<br />
Can you set your account up to auto-refill?<br />
<br />
What's the best way (if any) to ensure you get a SIM that will work with Freerunner?<br />
<br />
<br />
Since cards < $25 expire after 30 days, but your account balance rolls over when you refill, it would be good for those of us who rarely use their phones to be able to drop say $5/month into their account (this is basically how my current Virgin Mobile prepaid works - $15 auto-charged every 90 days - bus VM isn't GSM....).<br />
<br />
--[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 11:36, 15 July 2008<br />
<br />
== This with Fireball success ==<br />
<br />
I wonder if those who have been successful with AT&T 3G cards are only finding 2G access at their locations. I put in my 4020 sim card and get "REGISTRATION DENIED" in 2 seconds. Waiting for a long period of time does not change that.<br />
--[[User:Sagacis|Sagacis]] 14:47, 6 August 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
<br />
== Non-AT&T not working ==<br />
How do i find out the SKU? There's a 13-Digit number followed by two letters on the back of my sim...<br />
<br />
My provider isn't AT&T - it's O2 Germany and I as well have a 3G card. I've tested two 3G Cards and they both return CME Error 15, while non-3G cards from the same provider work flawless. <br />
<br />
Full GSMD log is here: http://pastebin.com/f67ce2c25<br />
--[[User:Sh|Sh]]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Confirmed Some ATT Do work ==<br />
<br />
<br />
I don't know if this will help you guys or not, I was not able to get<br />
a good picture of the SIM itself, however, I have done a few things:<br />
<br />
My old ATT (Cingular SIM) did not work. I wish I had written down its<br />
model sorry. But I know it is one in the DOES not work list already.<br />
<br />
I got another one from the ATT store and it two failed. It was a G3<br />
Fireball SIM got the model number: 71234G / 3022<br />
<br />
Following up on the last post for bug 666, I did notice that my old<br />
phone, a Nokia which all SIM work with, did only have 6 leads, that<br />
contact squarely on the SIM, and the Runner has a 8, the last two of<br />
which (closest to the outside) fall right in between the grooves on<br />
the cards with the rounded lead face (the circular grooves going around).<br />
<br />
I took it up on my self, throwing warranty into the wind, to modify the<br />
pins, to make them contact at least the two inner rounded leads on SIM (the last set), I<br />
managed to mangle them enough doing so, and I want to say I had them<br />
moved the right place, but it still did not work, I am no electrician,<br />
and the tools at hand were clubs compared to the intricacy of the device.<br />
None the less, I am confident they were close enough to touch, and as<br />
I said, it still did not seem to work.<br />
<br />
After having spent all day doing no work and not getting this working,<br />
I decided to go boogie boarding, and blow off the waisted day. On my<br />
way home, I decided to stop off at the Santa Monica ATT store, and<br />
after waiting through a 45 min line of people hopeless for IPOD's (and<br />
me showing off my new Moko :D ) I got a different SIM card:<br />
<br />
71234O / 4022<br />
<br />
As I crossed the street, cars crashing into phone poles, with my only<br />
attention on the flickering screen. my momentary fall into the black<br />
hole of despair, was quickly shattered when I restarted the gsmd.<br />
Yaaaaaayyy!!!!, there was much rejoicing, jumping in the air, and<br />
dancing ludicrously in the middle of the street. To which I am sure<br />
people thought I was crazy!<br />
<br />
I'm lovin' it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Carriers/ATTTalk:Carriers/ATT2008-07-15T15:35:59Z<p>Techiem2: prepaid questions</p>
<hr />
<div>AT&T/Cingular specifies the artwork so they should all look the same for the same SKU other than the vendor identification so I'm not sure what benefit there is in describing the images.<br />
<br />
Except that some of the older SIM cards don't have anything, but markings to help denote what they are.<br />
<br />
== ATT Prepaid Questions ==<br />
What is the minimum amount you can refill your account with online?<br />
Can you set your account up to auto-refill?<br />
What's the best way (if any) to ensure you get a SIM that will work with Freerunner?<br />
<br />
Since cards < $25 expire after 30 days, but your account balance rolls over when you refill, it would be good for those of us who rarely use their phones to be able to drop say $5/month into their account (this is basically how my current Virgin Mobile prepaid works - $15 auto-charged every 90 days - bus VM isn't GSM....).<br />
--[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 11:36, 15 July 2008<br />
<br />
== This with Fireball success ==<br />
<br />
I wonder if those who have been successful with AT&T 3G cards are only finding 2G access at their locations. I put in my 4020 sim card and get "REGISTRATION DENIED" in 2 seconds. Waiting for a long period of time does not change that.<br />
--[[User:Sagacis|Sagacis]] 14:47, 6 August 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
<br />
== Non-AT&T not working ==<br />
How do i find out the SKU? There's a 13-Digit number followed by two letters on the back of my sim...<br />
<br />
My provider isn't AT&T - it's O2 Germany and I as well have a 3G card. I've tested two 3G Cards and they both return CME Error 15, while non-3G cards from the same provider work flawless. <br />
<br />
Full GSMD log is here: http://pastebin.com/f67ce2c25<br />
--[[User:Sh|Sh]]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Confirmed Some ATT Do work ==<br />
<br />
<br />
I don't know if this will help you guys or not, I was not able to get<br />
a good picture of the SIM itself, however, I have done a few things:<br />
<br />
My old ATT (Cingular SIM) did not work. I wish I had written down its<br />
model sorry. But I know it is one in the DOES not work list already.<br />
<br />
I got another one from the ATT store and it two failed. It was a G3<br />
Fireball SIM got the model number: 71234G / 3022<br />
<br />
Following up on the last post for bug 666, I did notice that my old<br />
phone, a Nokia which all SIM work with, did only have 6 leads, that<br />
contact squarely on the SIM, and the Runner has a 8, the last two of<br />
which (closest to the outside) fall right in between the grooves on<br />
the cards with the rounded lead face (the circular grooves going around).<br />
<br />
I took it up on my self, throwing warranty into the wind, to modify the<br />
pins, to make them contact at least the two inner rounded leads on SIM (the last set), I<br />
managed to mangle them enough doing so, and I want to say I had them<br />
moved the right place, but it still did not work, I am no electrician,<br />
and the tools at hand were clubs compared to the intricacy of the device.<br />
None the less, I am confident they were close enough to touch, and as<br />
I said, it still did not seem to work.<br />
<br />
After having spent all day doing no work and not getting this working,<br />
I decided to go boogie boarding, and blow off the waisted day. On my<br />
way home, I decided to stop off at the Santa Monica ATT store, and<br />
after waiting through a 45 min line of people hopeless for IPOD's (and<br />
me showing off my new Moko :D ) I got a different SIM card:<br />
<br />
71234O / 4022<br />
<br />
As I crossed the street, cars crashing into phone poles, with my only<br />
attention on the flickering screen. my momentary fall into the black<br />
hole of despair, was quickly shattered when I restarted the gsmd.<br />
Yaaaaaayyy!!!!, there was much rejoicing, jumping in the air, and<br />
dancing ludicrously in the middle of the street. To which I am sure<br />
people thought I was crazy!<br />
<br />
I'm lovin' it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Where_is_my_Freerunner%3FWhere is my Freerunner?2008-07-12T00:49:13Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>Where is my FreeRunner? In order to give you an idea of when your FreeRunner will be shipped, this is a list of order numbers against shipping confirmation email dates. These numbers have been taken from the community mailing list and the #openmoko IRC channel. <br />
<br />
Note that there may be gaps in the order numbers, and the assumption here is that lower order numbers ship first. Also note that the tracking email has a subject similar to "UPS Ship Notification, Tracking Number ..." and is from "auto-notify@ups.com" or "pkginfo@ups.com" so you may miss it if you're searching for "moko" as a keyword.<br />
<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="6" width=100% border=1<br />
!Order Number<br />
!Confirmation/Shipping Date<br />
!Bulk Order?<br />
|-<br />
|1068<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1087<br />
|2008-07-08<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1089<br />
|2008-07-08<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1134<br />
|Confirmed: 2008-07-03, Shipped: 2008-07-09, Scheduled: 2008-07-16, Delivered: Not yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1161<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1167<br />
|Confirmed: 2008-07-03, Shipped: 2008-07-10, Scheduled: 2008-07-17 (@Atlanta, GA), Delivered: Not yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1203<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|[[GroupSales#Ohio_.2F_Michigan|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1207<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1210<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|[[GroupSales#Midwest|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1220<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1294<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1326<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1328<br />
|2008-07-10 (Scheduled Delivery: 2008-07-16)<br />
|[[GroupSales#Texas|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1345<br />
|2008-07-10 Notification by Phone from UPS<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|1356<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1363<br />
|2008-07-10<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1390<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1396<br />
|2008-07-10<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1421<br />
|2008-07-10, expected delivery: 2008-07-17<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1437<br />
|2008-07-10, delivery target 2008-07-16 in DFW area, ground<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1459<br />
|2008-07-10[http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&Requester=NES&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&loc=en_US&tracknum=1Z5VX0383554559523]<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1488<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 5:58 PM (GMT-7)<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1513<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 19:58 EDT<br />
|[[GroupSales#Pacific_Northwest|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1539<br />
|2008-07-10 @ 4:58 PM (GMT-8)[http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&Requester=NES&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&loc=en_US&tracknum=1Z5VX0384254800060]<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1547<br />
|UPS Delivered Northern CA, 2008-07-11 @ AM (PST)<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1562<br />
|Not Yet, probably eaten by spam blocker 2008-07-10 :-(<br />
|[[GroupSales#Boulder|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1669<br />
|2008-07-10<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1676<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 11 July, Ground<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1692<br />
|Picked up from Fremont on 10 July 2008<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|1694<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 14 July, 2nd day air<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1702<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 16 July, Ground<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1724<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1750<br />
|Yes 10-July-2008, expected delivery: 15-July-2008<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|1773<br />
|2008-07-03 10:07PM EST Order confirmed and nothing else as of July 11 8:35PM EST<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1787<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 4:58 PM <br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1813<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 14 July, 2nd day air<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1827<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10, scheduled delivery 7/17/2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1828<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 5:20 PM (Pacific Time), delivery date: 7/17/2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1843<br />
|Ordered July 3rd, 10:15pm PST, tracking notice came in July 11 5:10pm PST, ETA: 7/15/2008<br />
|[[GroupSales#Los_Angeles|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|2014<br />
|Not yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2049<br />
|No tracking as of 2008-07-11 14:00 MST<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2054<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|Nope<br />
|-<br />
|2165<br />
|Ordered: 2008-07-04 / Shipping Notice: 2008-07-11 / Scheduled Delivery: 2008-07-15<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2204<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10, scheduled delivery 7/15/2008<br />
|Nope<br />
|-<br />
|2237<br />
|Ordered 2008-07-04 18:21 EST5EDT. Shipping notice: 2008-07-11 20:10. Scheduled Delivery: 2007-07-18.<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2243<br />
|Ordered 2008-07-04 19:09 -0400. No shipment notice yet.<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2267<br />
|Received tracking information 2008-07-10 19:58 -0400. We ordered 2nd Day but they're shipping Ground. :(<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|2278<br />
|Ordered 2008-07-04 20:58 -0700. Ship notification received 2008-07-11 17:12 -0700. Scheduled Delivery: 15-July-2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2318<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2340<br />
|Not Yet/NA (Picked up in Fremont)<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|2435<br />
|Received tracking information 2008-07-11 17:12 -0700. Shipping to Canada<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2442<br />
|Not Yet (Ordered Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 3:57 PM - Shipping to Argentina)<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2488<br />
|Not Yet (Ordered Sunday, Jul 06, 2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2607<br />
|Not yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2712<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2741<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|3007<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|3032<br />
|Not yet<br />
|Yes<br />
|}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[category:Purchase]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Where_is_my_Freerunner%3FWhere is my Freerunner?2008-07-11T13:47:12Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>Where is my FreeRunner? In order to give you an idea of when your FreeRunner will be shipped, this is a list of order numbers against shipping confirmation email dates. These numbers have been taken from the community mailing list and the #openmoko IRC channel. <br />
<br />
Note that there may be gaps in the order numbers, and the assumption here is that lower order numbers ship first. Also note that the tracking email has a subject similar to "UPS Ship Notification, Tracking Number ..." and is from "auto-notify@ups.com" or "pkginfo@ups.com" so you may miss it if you're searching for "moko" as a keyword.<br />
<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="6" width=100% border=1<br />
!Order Number<br />
!Confirmation/Shipping Date<br />
!Bulk Order?<br />
|-<br />
|1068<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1087<br />
|2008-07-08<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1089<br />
|2008-07-08<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1134<br />
|Confirmed: 2008-07-03, Shipped: 2008-07-09, Scheduled: 2008-07-16, Delivered: Not yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1161<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1167<br />
|Confirmed: 2008-07-03, Shipped: 2008-07-10, Scheduled: 2008-07-17 (@Atlanta, GA), Delivered: Not yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1203<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|[[GroupSales#Ohio_.2F_Michigan|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1207<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1210<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|[[GroupSales#Midwest|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1220<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1294<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1326<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1328<br />
|2008-07-10 (Scheduled Delivery: 2008-07-16)<br />
|[[GroupSales#Texas|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1345<br />
|2008-07-10 Notification by Phone from UPS<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|1356<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1363<br />
|2008-07-10<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1390<br />
|2008-07-09<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1396<br />
|2008-07-10<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1421<br />
|2008-07-10, expected delivery: 2008-07-17<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1437<br />
|2008-07-10, delivery target 2008-07-16 in DFW area, ground<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1459<br />
|2008-07-10[http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&Requester=NES&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&loc=en_US&tracknum=1Z5VX0383554559523]<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1488<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 5:58 PM (GMT-7)<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1513<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|[[GroupSales#Pacific_Northwest|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1539<br />
|2008-07-10 @ 4:58 PM (GMT-8)[http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/processRequest?HTMLVersion=5.0&Requester=NES&AgreeToTermsAndConditions=yes&loc=en_US&tracknum=1Z5VX0384254800060]<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1562<br />
|Not Yet, probably eaten by spam blocker 2008-07-10 :-(<br />
|[[GroupSales#Boulder|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|1669<br />
|2008-07-10<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1676<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 11 July, Ground<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1692<br />
|Picked up from Fremont on 10 July 2008<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|1694<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 14 July, 2nd day air<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1702<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 16 July, Ground<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1724<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1750<br />
|Yes 10-July-2008, expected delivery: 15-July-2008<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|1787<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 4:58 PM <br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1813<br />
|UPS Notification received 10 July/To Be Delivered by 14 July, 2nd day air<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1827<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10, scheduled delivery 7/17/2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1828<br />
|Received tracking/shipment info 2008-07-10 @ 5:20 PM (Pacific Time), delivery date: 7/17/2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|1843<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|[[GroupSales#Los_Angeles|Yes]]<br />
|-<br />
|2054<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|Nope<br />
|-<br />
|2204<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|Nope<br />
|-<br />
|2237<br />
|Ordered 2008-07-04 18:21 EST5EDT. No shipment notice yet.<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2243<br />
|Ordered 2008-07-04 19:09 -0400. No shipment notice yet.<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2267<br />
|Received tracking information 2008-07-10 19:58 -0400. We ordered 2nd Day but they're shipping Ground. :(<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|2318<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2340<br />
|Not Yet/NA (Picked up in Fremont)<br />
|Yes<br />
|-<br />
|2435<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2442<br />
|Not Yet (Ordered Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 3:57 PM - Shipping to Argentina)<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2488<br />
|Not Yet (Ordered Sunday, Jul 06, 2008<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2607<br />
|Not yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2712<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|2741<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|3007<br />
|Not Yet<br />
|No<br />
|-<br />
|3032<br />
|Not yet<br />
|Yes<br />
|}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[category:Purchase]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Neo_FreeRunner_WifiTalk:Neo FreeRunner Wifi2008-07-03T19:12:28Z<p>Techiem2: password hash creation</p>
<hr />
<div>Passphrase issues:<br />
<br />
I have noticed that with wireless sometimes it works better to use the password hash in the wpa_supplicant.conf instead of the ascii text.<br />
You can use the wpa_passphrase utility (I don't know if this is included in the GTA02 or not as I don't have one) to generate the hash for the passphrase.<br />
<br />
techiem2@escape-pod ~ $ wpa_passphrase MYWIFI "my passphrase" <br />
network={<br />
ssid="MYWIFI"<br />
#psk="my passphrase"<br />
psk=a4c08e767704a66d3fb27d4bf072e2da279f76adc568722b9a6f97964b982620<br />
}<br />
<br />
Of course you would probably want to redirect output to the end of your wpa_supplicant.conf (wpa_passphrase MYWIFI "my passphrase">>/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf).<br />
<br />
--[[User:Techiem2|techiem2]] 19:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Main_PageTalk:Main Page2008-04-23T20:02:20Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>= 23rd of April 2008 =<br />
[[User:techiem2|techiem2]]: In Firefox 3 (beta 5 currently, though the issue has been in all I've tried so far), the navigation column shows up between the page content and the page footer instead of at the top next to the content as it should.<br />
I do like the latest update to the front page, it looks great.<br />
<br />
<br />
= 17th of September 2007 = <br />
<br />
== Security ==<br />
[[User:mikl-dk|mikl-dk]]: Triggered by the question whether every execution of an application is done by the root-user, I started to wondering about the security in OpenMoko in general. Actually I found very little - near to nothing - and I personally think that's inappropriate for this project. We simply have to focus very much on security so that isn't going to be a pitfall. So please, let's focus on this! If desired, I'll be glad to join such a ''task-force''. <br />
<br />
== Additional Applications Portal ==<br />
[[User:mikl-dk|mikl-dk]]: Since OpenMoko is open and is (going to be very, very, very) popular, a positive problem with lots of third part application is going to arise: the quality can vary a lot. I know there is a projects-section of this portal, but that's targeted to the developers and not the end-users. Maybe it would be a idea to create a repository of recommended applications by the OpenMoko-team.<br />
<br />
= Archive = <br />
<br />
== Navigating a Wiki ==<br />
[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 01:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC):<br />
''Q: Dear all, who knows how to surf this wiki website without repeatly clicking the 'HomePage' and then going down to the page I want? Is there anything like 'Upper Layer'<br />
<br />
== Wiki Frontpage Facelift ==<br />
Not sure who refactored the wiki's front page, but it looks awesome! Great job! == Anonymous<br />
<br />
Yeah, much better, I like too. [[User:Micktaiwan|micktaiwan]] 22:03, 26 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
== Question about programming ==<br />
If I wanted to learn how to write applications for the Neo1973, and have a couple years of C++ classes under my belt, where do I start? I'm not talking about creating a whole e-mail application or anything, but I know nothing about the software and how it operates. Thanks!<br />
<br />
== Question about Java programming ==<br />
[[User:CathodioN|Geert Schuring]]: How can i help? Im a java programmer and would really like to get involved!<br />
<br />
== Developer available ==<br />
<br />
[[User:Huan|Huan]]: I'm a flight student with a CS degree and I don't have time to create and implement my own project. I am interested in developing and implementing encryption algorithms and other features to make openmoko users harder to track. If anyone has a project they need help on I can code, comment, and Debug. I also am familiar with UML specifically OOP in Java, C,++,#, Perl, I can even dive into the assembly. I use Eclipse as my primary development platform. If anyone could use a part time contributer to their project I would be honored to be a part.<br />
<br />
== hardware changes ==<br />
<br />
is there any word on if the hardware will change from the dev version currently being offered, and the retail version in october?<br />
<br />
== Kalra asked on the main page : ==<br />
<br />
i am an IT student from India , i have an experience of working on C,C++,Java now i want to join an open source project , can anybody please help , currently i am working on an image compression project. [[User:Kalra]]<br />
<br />
== Mediawiki Skin ==<br />
<br />
I run a mediawiki site also, and am wondering if anyone knows of the skin on this site being available for use? I appreciate any ideas on this. Thanks.--[[http://www.usome.com]] 22:29, 7 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
== Other supported hardware (Sony Ericsson) ==<br />
<br />
Hello,<br />
<br />
I have an old sony ericsson P800 that I would be willing to try OpenMoko on. How do I get started? I am a C++ programmer so technical stuff does not bother me. What do I read, where do look? Can I even think of using other hardware?<br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
<br />
== OpenMoko t-shirt ? ==<br />
<br />
Should we add a section for OpenMoko stuff, like t-shirts, hats etc ?<br />
I found this link that offers OpenMoko t-shirts but they do not deliver in the U.S or Canada :(<br />
Dam dam dam !<br />
http://211795.spreadshirt.net/en/DE/Shop/Article/Index/article/openmoko-logo-front-t-shirt-5189143<br />
<br />
--[[User:Cribe|Cribe]] 17:55, 5 November 2007 (CET)<br />
<br />
=== OpenMoko t-shirt and stuff ? ===<br />
<br />
Hi again, I was wondering who should contact if I want to use the openmoko logo to put on t-shirts, mouse pads etc ?<br />
I would like to give the profits to the openmoko cause...Anyone ???<br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
--[[User:Cribe|Cribe]] 06:17, 29 November 2007 (CET)<br />
<br />
== Google Phone, OpenHandset Alliance, and Android... ==<br />
<br />
From what has been released so far, there seems to be quite an overlap:<br />
Linux based, open SDK, and a few years worth of development sunk into the project.<br />
<br />
So, what's the impact on OpenMoko? Will OpenMoko end up being the open hardware side, or will the two projects compete, or will OpenMoko become redundant? Will OpenMoko join the OHA, and simply refine, brand, extend that platform?<br />
<br />
Further, the OpenMoko Neo phone might be able to run the android software within weeks, so it could be the first phone available to the public running that software platform.<br />
<br />
Somehow, there are lots of questions that should be answered.<br />
<br />
== Cellular Internet ==<br />
<br />
I suggest include information about access to the Internet using the cell phone. It would include a USB port to connect the computer to the Internet, using HSPA data standards (3.5 and 3.75G). And the possibility include a WiFi port to connect to a WiFi Router, to share the Internet connection. --[[User:Mac|Mac]] 12:18, 30 November 2007 (CET)<br />
<br />
== OpenMoko and Subversion, can anyone answer my question ? ==<br />
<br />
[[Talk:Using_Subversion | How are the OpenMoko developers using Subversion ?]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:November_6,_2007_Community_UpdateTalk:November 6, 2007 Community Update2007-11-06T21:11:06Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>How many of you must have 850 MHz support, and would be satisfied with an 850/1800/1900MHz variant, and how many of you must have full quad-band?<br />
<br />
Note that by asking this question we do not promise to provide these options.<br />
<br />
Please put your answers below:<br />
<br />
'''Must have an 850/1800/1900MHz variant'''<br />
* -- [[User:Mwester]] 06:46, 6 November 2007 (CST) - This thing is nothing but an extremely expensive PDA without 850 support. It should do what it was claimed it could do when it was sold (quad-band), but I can live with taking a real phone with me when travelling internationally.<br />
* -- [[User:ShakataGaNai|ShakataGaNai]] 03:34, 6 November 2007 (CET)<br />
* -- [[User:Aking|Aking]] 21:55 EST, 2007-11-05 - Live/work in a Rogers 850 only zone<br />
* -- [[User:Matt|Mattdawg]] 19:57 MST, 6 November 2007<br />
* -- [[User:Writchie|Wally Ritchie]] 10:02 EST, 6 November 2007 - GTA02 MUST support largest US GSM carrier.<br />
* -- [[User:Digger|Digger]] 04:15, 6 November 2007 (CET) - But for the money would prefer quad-band<br />
* -- [[User:Wisp|wisp]] 04:29, 6 November 2007 (CET) - But for the money would greatly prefer quad-band <br />
* -- [[User:WJCarpenter|WJCarpenter]] 19:45, 6 November 2007 (PST)<br />
* -- [[User:Angus|Angus]] 20:59, 5 November 2007 (MST) - Required for Rogers in Canada<br />
* -- [[User:Montgoss|Montgoss]] 22:34 CST, 5 November 2007 - Frequently in areas that use 850 band.<br />
* -- [[User:Xaid|Xaid]] 21:12, November 5th, 2007 (MST) - Rogers Wireless in Edmonton uses both 850/1900 bands.<br />
* -- [[User:Mmontour|Mmontour]] 06:45, 6 November 2007 (CET) - So far I've been able to use my phone with 1900 only (Fido in Vancouver, BC) but I do sometimes travel to 850-only areas.<br />
* -- [[User:Romulus|Romulus]] 07:31, November 6th, 2007 (PST) - I'm with Rogers and will need 850 when on the road.<br />
* -- [[User:Mary|Mary]] 11:24, November 6th, 2007 (EST)<br />
* -- [[User:Algo|Algo]] 13:17, November 6th, 2007 (EST) - I'm with Rogers too and i need the 850 band to get a full coverage. It's a no go no show until the phone can support it.<br />
* -- [[User:GaidinTS|GaidinTS]] 13:52, November 6th, 2007 (CST) - I'd have to start looking for a new phone, if this one didn't support 850.<br />
* -- [[User:wurp|wurp]] 14:27, November 6th, 2007 (CST)<br />
* -- [[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 16:03, November 6th, 2007 (EST) - This would be the minimum for me to use as a phone as I live in an 850 /1900 area. Ideally quad band so I could use it if I ever travel.<br />
<br />
'''Is OK with the current 900/1800/1900MHz variant'''<br />
* -- [[User:BlueStar88|BlueStar88]] 11:50, 6 November 2007 (CET) - 900 (D1-, D2- and O2-Network) and 1800 (E- and O2-Network) are essential in Germany<br />
* -- (Most of Europe? From my quick bit of research, it seems 850Mhz is only needed for the US, Canada, Anguilla, Ecuador, Montserrat, Panama, St. Kitts and Nevis, Turks and Caicos Islands )<br />
* -- [[User:C.M|C.M]] 06:44 CST, 6 November 2007 - 850 would be nice, but I don't need it.<br />
* -- [[User:Avanc|Avanc]] 08:52 CET, 6 November 2007 - 850 would be nice, but I don't want to miss 900<br />
* -- [[User:PT|PT]] 08:27 GMT, 6 November 2007 - 850 would be nice but the other three are more important for me<br />
* -- [[User:s.decken|s.decken]] 10:49 GMT, 6 November 2007 - 850 would be nice but not required<br />
* -- [[User:PiotrDuda|_alcik_]] 11:55 GMT, 6 November 2007 - I really need the 900.<br />
* -- [[User:Mic|Mic]] 12:15 CET, 6 November 2007 - in Europe is 900 essential<br />
* -- [[User:Mockenh|Mockenh]] 12:45 CET, 6 November 2007 - need 900 (Germany)<br />
* -- [[User:Psmears|Psmears]] 14:55, 6 November 2007 (CET) 900/1800 covers most of the world; 1900 covers enough of USA/Canada to be useful for short trips.<br />
* -- [[User:Placid|Placid]] 18:52, 6 November 2007 (CET) - UK, T-Mobile, OK with tri-band.<br />
* -- [[User:Vegar|Vegar]] 16:46, 6 November 2007 (CET) - 850 would be nice, but the other three are much more important<br />
* -- [[User:einalex|einalex]] 17:04 CET, 6 November 2007 - in Germany/Europe GSM 900 is a must-have. For me, 850 is optional.<br />
* -- [[User:PBeck|PatrickBeck]] 17:45, 6 November 2007 (CET) I live in germany, so is 850 optional for me. But quadband would be nice.<br />
* -- [[User:AVee]] Same as above, having a hardware/software switch for 850/900 would help as well.<br />
* -- [[User:Dread|Dread]] I'm from Germany too, for me, 850 is optional.<br />
* -- [[User:Haakeyar|Haakeyar]] 19:42, 6 November 2007 (CET) I live in Norway.<br />
* -- [[User:Henrikw|Henrikw]] 20:57, 6 November 2007 (CET) I live in Norway.<br />
* -- [[User:lizardb0y|lizardb0y]] 08:35, 7 November 2007 (NZDT) I could personally live with the 900/1800/1900 variant but this would limit it's use to 1 of 2 New Zealand GSM providers. Being able to switch between 850/900 would be extremely beneficial to the NZ market as we have providers on both. See [http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml] for details.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Must have full quad-band support''' (note that this is not for GTA01 or GTA02)<br />
* -- [[User:Elektrolott|Elektrolott]] 18:45 (PST), 2007-11-05 - I live in the US and travel to Europe, so Quad Band is a must. As you noted this will not be for GTA02, so when (if at all) can we expect the promised 4 Band?<br />
* -- [[User:ClashTheBunny|ClashTheBunny]] 04:03, 6 November 2007 (CET) - Right now I live on the North Shore of Boston and most places are 850<br />
* -- [[User:Sagacis|Sagacis]] 04:16, 6 November 2007 (CET) - The phone is a brick to me without 850. International travel means I need all four bands.<br />
* -- [[User:Davemaster|Davemaster]] 21:47, 5 November 2007 (ET) - International travelers, Me and my group (company) deals all over. We need all four bands.<br />
*-- [[User:Rakshat|Rakshat]] 05:40, 6 November 2007 (CET) - For travel in the US, otherwise I am ok with the 900/1800/1900Mhz variant<br />
* --[[User:NeilenMarais|NeilenMarais]] 15:37, 6 November 2007 (CET) - For travel to US also<br />
* -- [[User:Jaebird|Jaebird]] 09:00, 6 November 2007 (CST) - The phone should be refundable to me without 850 (It was sold as a quad band phone, it is NOT). International travel means I need all four bands.<br />
* -- [[User:Mmanjos|Mmanjos]] 21:25, 6 November 2007 (CET) - I absolutely need 850 or else the phone is useless to me, but for the money, it should support quad-band.</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Video_PlayerTalk:Video Player2007-09-23T16:37:48Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>I think the Neo has potential as a video player even with the weak CPU it has right now (that's one of the things I do with my Palm TX). Come on, is anyone going to care if a 2.8" screen is displaying 240x320 or 480x640 video? You can't see a thing anyway ;-)<br />
<br />
That said, the chief issue is making sure that the video is transcoded (scaled and pre-rotated) in advance, just as you outline. This *could* be done as a batch job invoked on the phone, or handled by whatever desktop app handles communication with the Moko. There is going to be some sort of app or function that does this transcoding.<br />
<br />
Anyhow, I propose that a file extension be created (.mkv, for Moko Video), which is simply MPEG-1 at 240x320 or some resolution like that. This renaming would be done by whatever app did the transformation, and it becomes much easier to explain to grandma why her movie is running at 10fps. (.mkv is taken by Matroska Video, but some custom extension [omv?] may be a good way to emphasize the Moko-spesificness of a clip --[[User:Mjr|Mjr]] 01:54, 19 April 2007 (CEST))<br />
<br />
Even if the movie player turns out crappy, you can still watch Charlie Chaplin vids at a resolution of 150x200 without panic.<br />
<br />
Couldn't the video files be encoded in a way that may increase the filesize significantly, but would require less CPU processing for 480x640 playback? I'm not extremely familiar but video encoding but it seems to me that this is a possible solution. -- [[User:machee|machee]] 14:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
I would say that even video at 640x480@25 might be possible if it is in a pre converted format. The ipodlinux.org project has managed to play 220x176@18fps on one 80mhz ARM core while running linux. This is using a new format which doesn't compress as well as mpeg2. However rockbox.org has managed to play mpeg2 video at reasonable speed utilizing both cores of the ipod.<br />
If you have to preconvert the video anyways, you could either pre-rotate it or even convert it into a different video format. Alternatively if you don't port an existing player, but implement a new one the rotation could also be done while decoding. [[User:NsN|NsN]] 19:58, 11 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
I checked the information for the video capabilities of the [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer Rockbox mpegplayer plugin] in relation to my iAudio X5 (since that's what I have).<br />
<br />
The X5 is running a Motorola SCF5250 (120Mhz) and supports playing video at 160x128 (the full screen res on the device) at 18 fps - which seems to work fine the time or two I've tested it.<br />
<br />
The question I would have relating to the Neo1973 is, why does the video need to be rotated (or stretched)?<br />
<br />
Would it be easier to simply play a decently sized (i.e. whatever the cpu could handle easily) video in the default screen orientation with no stretching, just with the classic black bar borders(or at least a stretch/no stretch option?)? -- [[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:MokoMakefileTalk:MokoMakefile2007-09-19T17:22:25Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>== Fails trying to fetch uboot == <br />
on ubuntu edgy (with all the required sofware installed):<br />
<br />
<pre><br />
( cd build ; . ../setup-env ; \<br />
bitbake openmoko-devel-image )<br />
NOTE: Using cache in '/content/build/tmp/cache/fic-gta01'<br />
NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (4333/4333) [100 %]<br />
NOTE: Parsing finished. 4149 cached, 0 parsed, 184 skipped, 0 masked.<br />
<br />
NOTE: build 200704240008: started<br />
<br />
OE Build Configuration:<br />
BB_VERSION = "1.6.7"<br />
OE_REVISION = "<unknown>"<br />
TARGET_ARCH = "arm"<br />
TARGET_OS = "linux"<br />
MACHINE = "fic-gta01"<br />
DISTRO = "openmoko"<br />
DISTRO_VERSION = ".dev-snapshot-20070423"<br />
TARGET_FPU = "soft"<br />
<br />
NOTE: preferred version 2.4 of glibc not available<br />
NOTE: preferred version 2.4 of glibc-intermediate not available<br />
NOTE: preferred version 2.4 of glibc not available<br />
NOTE: Retrieved remote revisions: ['0', '1754', '0']<br />
NOTE: Retrieved remote revisions: ['14da5f7675bbb427c469e3f45006e027b6e21db9', '0', '1811']<br />
NOTE: package uboot-gta01-1.2.0+svnnow: started<br />
NOTE: package uboot-gta01-1.2.0+svnnow-r4_14da5f7675bbb427c469e3f45006e027b6e21db9_0_1811: task do_fetch: started<br />
fatal: corrupted pack file .git/objects/pack/pack-a146bcbc18f4826d6bf2a7f63be5dd77bbb5b2f5.pack<br />
Fetch failure: git://www.denx.de/git/u-boot.git/<br />
NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: Git: export PATH=/content/build/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/arm-linux:/content/build/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin:/content/build/tmp/cross/bin:/content/bitbake/bin:/home/philip/work/trac/install/0.10-stable/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games; git pull git://www.denx.de/git/u-boot.git/ failed<br />
NOTE: package uboot-gta01-1.2.0+svnnow-r4_14da5f7675bbb427c469e3f45006e027b6e21db9_0_1811: task do_fetch: failed<br />
ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting<br />
NOTE: package uboot-gta01-1.2.0+svnnow: failed<br />
ERROR: Build of openmoko-devel-image failed<br />
make: *** [openmoko-devel-image] Fout 1<br />
<br />
</pre><br />
<br />
To fix this, upgrade git to 1.5.x. (1.4.x currently installed.)<br />
<br />
== Fails trying to download a TTF fonts. Workaround Below ==<br />
<br />
Trying to build with the latest MokoMakefile fails with the following output:<br />
<br />
<pre>...<br />
NOTE: fetch http://downloads.openmoko.org/sources/dejavu-ttf-2.15.tar.bz2<br />
--10:32:52-- http://downloads.openmoko.org/sources/dejavu-ttf-2.15.tar.bz2<br />
=> `/home/nat/moko/sources/dejavu-ttf-2.15.tar.bz2'<br />
Resolving downloads.openmoko.org... 88.198.93.219<br />
Connecting to downloads.openmoko.org|88.198.93.219|:80... connected.<br />
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found<br />
10:32:52 ERROR 404: Not Found.<br />
<br />
NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: http://heanet.dl.sf.net/dejavu/dejavu-ttf-2.15.tar.bz2<br />
NOTE: package ttf-dejavu-2.15-r0: task do_fetch: failed<br />
ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting<br />
NOTE: package ttf-dejavu-2.15: failed<br />
ERROR: Build of openmoko-devel-image failed<br />
make: *** [openmoko-devel-image] Error 1<br />
</pre><br />
<br />
To work around this problem, download from here http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download and save into the sources/ subdirectory beneath where you are running make. Then create a file named dejavu-ttf-2.15.tar.bz2.md5 alongside the tar.bz2 file that contains the MD5 checksum on that download page. Then issue the make command again and the build will pick up where it left off.<br />
<br />
== do_compile fails with unreconized option '-Qy' ==<br />
<br />
I use bash for my shell and this seems to be caused by something in my .bashrc For now, I have just commented out my .bashrc for my builds. It has something to do with the PATH variable. Try using <br />
<br />
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin make openmoko-devel-image" <br />
<br />
to get around it.<br />
<br />
== (NOT FIXED) Fails on a 32bit machine ==<br />
<br />
<pre>| make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutil<br />
s-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17/build.x86_64-linux.arm-linux/bfd'<br />
| /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile ccache gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/usr/local/<br />
oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17/bfd -I. -I. <br />
-I/usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd -I/usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils<br />
-2.17/bfd/../include -I/usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross<br />
-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17/bfd/../intl -I../intl -isystem/usr/local/oe/build/tmp/st<br />
aging/x86_64-linux/include -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -We<br />
rror -isystem/usr/local/oe/build/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/include -O2 -c -o libb<br />
fd.lo /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-<br />
2.17/bfd/libbfd.c<br />
| ccache gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/bin<br />
utils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17/bfd -I. -I. -I/usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/arm<br />
v4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17/bfd -I/usr/local/oe/build/tmp/wor<br />
k/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17/bfd/../include -I/usr/local/<br />
oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17/bfd/../intl <br />
-I../intl -isystem/usr/local/oe/build/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/include -W -Wall <br />
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Werror -isystem/usr/local/oe/build/tmp<br />
/staging/x86_64-linux/include -O2 -c /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/b<br />
inutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17/bfd/libbfd.c -o libbfd.o<br />
| cc1: warnings being treated as errors<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c: In function 'bfd_getb_signed_64':<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:662: warning: left shift count >= width of type<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:662: warning: left shift count >= width of type<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c: In function 'bfd_getl_signed_64':<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:685: warning: left shift count >= width of type<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:685: warning: left shift count >= width of type<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c: In function 'bfd_putb64':<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:717: warning: right shift count >= width of type<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:718: warning: right shift count >= width of type<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:719: warning: right shift count >= width of type<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:720: warning: right shift count >= width of type<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c: In function 'bfd_putl64':<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:735: warning: right shift count >= width of type<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:736: warning: right shift count >= width of type<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:737: warning: right shift count >= width of type<br />
| /usr/local/oe/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/binutils-cross-2.17-r0/binutils-2.17<br />
/bfd/libbfd.c:738: warning: right shift count >= width of type<br />
| make[5]: *** [libbfd.lo] Error 1<br />
</pre><br />
<br />
Any insight here? --[[User:Adam|Adam]] 23:10, 15 May 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
== Building on Fedora Core 6 ==<br />
<br />
Install stuff needed for OpenMoko:<br />
# yum install python m4 make wget curl ftp cvs monotone subversion \<br />
tar bzip2 gzip unzip python-psyco ccache perl texinfo texi2html \<br />
diffstat openjade docbook-style-dsssl docbook-style-xsl docbook-dtds \<br />
docbook-utils sed bison bc glibc-devel gcc binutils pcre pcre-devel git \<br />
quilt groff linuxdoc-tools patch compat-gcc-34 lynx netpbm<br />
(notice ''compat-gcc-34'' wich was needed for FC6 (gcc 4 installed), and ''lynx'' which is needed by ''qemu'' (no fallback to ''wget'', ''curl'', or ''links'' at the moment and no check for it, resulting in strange "sleep" errors when trying to build without ''lynx'').<br />
<br />
Build it:<br />
$ make setup<br />
$ make openmoko-devel-image<br />
$ unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH<br />
$ make update-makefile && make update && make setup && make openmoko-devel-image<br />
<br />
I have also done a<br />
$ unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH; make update-makefile && nice make update && nice make setup && nice make all<br />
(This takes several hours)<br />
<br />
Build qemu:<br />
$ make qemu<br />
<br />
Run it:<br />
# echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq<br />
$ make run-qemu<br />
This will bring up the OpenMoko :) Use SPACE for AUX and ENTER for POWER.<br />
Not quite the same as holding a Neo1973 in your hands I would guess, but this is the best we can do for now. Thanks!<br />
<br />
== Building on Ubuntu Feisty ==<br />
<br />
MokoMakefile requires more than 512 MB of RAM + Swap space (around 1GB?).<br />
<br />
If you need swap, please '''check that its size under Feisty is not null'''!<br />
<br />
[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105490 Bug #105490] describes the current issue and offers a workaround (23 Jul 07).<br />
<br />
== Fails trying to build bluez-utils == <br />
on Gentoo Linux, it fails compiling bluez-utils (I've tried also "make clean-package-bluez-utils" before the following command)<br />
<br />
do a "make build-package-libusb; make clean-package-bluez-utils" and it should continue (the bluez-utils .bb is missing the libusb dependency)<br />
<br />
== openSUSE 10.1 and 10.2 workarounds ==<br />
<br />
ltrace package fails to build with error: <br />
<pre><br />
...<br />
checking for pid_t... yes<br />
checking for getopt... yes<br />
checking for getopt_long... yes<br />
checking gelf.h usability... no<br />
checking gelf.h presence... no<br />
checking for gelf.h... no<br />
configure: error: ***** gelf.h not found *****<br />
FATAL: oe_runconf failed<br />
</pre><br />
<br />
'''FIX: '''<br />
edit ''/home/moko/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/ltrace-0.4-r0/ltrace-0.4/configure.ac''<br />
at line 44: remove the following block:<br />
<pre><br />
for path in /usr/include/elfutils /usr/local/include/elfutils \<br />
/usr/include/libelf /usr/local/include/libelf; do<br />
if test -f ${path}/gelf.h; then<br />
CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS -I ${path}"<br />
fi<br />
done<br />
</pre><br />
( it adds /usr/include/elfutils to path, which causes cross-compile badness error )<br />
<br />
=== QEMU build fails to compile USB code ===<br />
<pre><br />
/usr/include/linux/usbdevice_fs.h:116: error: variable or field `__user' declared void<br />
/usr/include/linux/usbdevice_fs.h:116: error: syntax error before '*' token<br />
/home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/usb-linux.c: In function `usb_host_handle_control':<br />
/home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/usb-linux.c:103: error: invalid application of `sizeof' to incomplete type `usbdevfs_ctrltran<br />
sfer'<br />
/home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/usb-linux.c: In function `usb_host_handle_data':<br />
/home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/usb-linux.c:120: error: storage size of 'bt' isn't known<br />
/home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/usb-linux.c:132: error: invalid application of `sizeof' to incomplete type `usbdevfs_bulktran<br />
sfer'<br />
/home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/usb-linux.c:120: warning: unused variable `bt'<br />
/home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/usb-linux.c: In function `usb_host_device_open':<br />
/home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/usb-linux.c:199: error: storage size of 'ctrl' isn't known<br />
/home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/usb-linux.c:202: error: invalid application of `sizeof' to incomplete type `usbdevfs_ioctl'<br />
/home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/usb-linux.c:199: warning: unused variable `ctrl'<br />
make[2]: *** [usb-linux.o] Error 1<br />
</pre><br />
<br />
'''FIX: '''<br />
edit ''/home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/usb-linux.c''<br />
at line 29 add the following (before ''#include <linux/usbdevice_fs.h>'')<br />
<pre><br />
#include <linux/compiler.h><br />
</pre><br />
hint: there is a copy of the file in ''/home/moko/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/qemu-native-0.9.0+cvs20070613-r5/qemu/usb-linux.c''<br />
<br />
''see: http://osdir.com/ml/emulators.kvm.devel/2007-01/msg00101.html''<br />
<br />
== Cannot satisfy fstests ==<br />
<pre><br />
make openmoko-devel-image<br />
...<br />
| Collected errors:<br />
| ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-openmoko-debug:<br />
| fstests<br />
NOTE: Task failed: /no-backup/Moko/build/tmp/work/fic-gta01-linux/openmoko-devel-image-1.0-r0/temp/log.do_rootfs.25036<br />
NOTE: package openmoko-devel-image-1.0-r0: task do_rootfs: failed<br />
ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting<br />
</pre><br />
Failed on debian etch 2007-07-20<br />
Solution from mailing list post from hardskinone, report of an irc chat<br />
<pre><br />
I got help in IRC channel. I do following steps<br />
* remove fstest from oe/packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb ,<br />
* increase PR field by one<br />
* make openmoko-devel-image<br />
</pre><br />
<br />
== conflicting types for 'futimens' ==<br />
<br />
if you encounter the following error:<br />
<br />
<br />
| In file included from utimecmp.c:40:<br />
| utimens.h:2: error: conflicting types for 'futimens'<br />
| /usr/include/sys/stat.h:370: error: previous declaration of 'futimens' was here<br />
<br />
a patch is needed because your glibc is too new. grab & enable the patch as follows <br />
<br />
cd openembedded/packages/coreutils<br />
mv coreutils_5.3.0.bb coreutils_5.3.0.orig<br />
wget http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/coreutils/coreutils_5.3.0.bb<br />
cd -<br />
cd openembedded/packages/coreutils/coreutils-5.3.0<br />
wget http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/coreutils/coreutils-5.3.0/futimens.patch<br />
cd -<br />
<br />
== Workaround for problems compiling mtd-utils ==<br />
<br />
Change the line on <code>openembedded/packages/mtd/mtd-utils_1.0.0+git.bb</code> which reads:<br />
<br />
SRC_URI = "git://git.infradead.org/mtd-utils.git;protocol=git;tag=master \<br />
<br />
to:<br />
<br />
SRC_URI = "git://git.infradead.org/mtd-utils.git;protocol=git;tag=a6fa706fe9e7696b4b2045edf9698c3bac07e3e3 \<br />
<br />
which forces the recipe to use an older revision (the one which worked last time I built the image on my computer).<br />
<br />
Be sure to remember to undo the change later, or else you will not get any new changes to that package. --[[User:CesarB|CesarB]] 04:48, 25 July 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
Note: these patches should be updated - the lzo patch is included in the current version, so backing off to the previous version and repatching seems silly. I was able to make it through this part of the build by applying the remaining patches manually. --[[User:Mellon|Ted Lemon]] 15:44, 29 July 2007 (CDT)<br />
<br />
== Monotone segfaulting on Ubuntu Feisty Fawn/PPC ==<br />
If you are running Ubuntu Feisty Fawn on a PowerPC computer you will experience problems running monotone. To fix this issue you need to install monotone as well as the libboost packages from Gutsy. The easiest way to accomplish this is to add the gutsy repositories to your sources.list<br />
and change the preferences to look like this:<br />
<br />
Package: *<br />
Pin: release a=feisty<br />
Pin-Priority: 700<br />
<br />
Package: *<br />
Pin: release a=gutsy<br />
Pin-Priority: -100<br />
<br />
Package: libc6 libc6-dev tzdata util-linux libgcc1 libstdc++6 monotone <br />
Pin: release a=gutsy<br />
Pin-Priority: 800<br />
<br />
Package: libboost-*<br />
Pin: release a=gutsy<br />
Pin-Priority: 800<br />
<br />
After doing this install monotone in this way:<br />
apt-get -t gutsy install monotone.<br />
That should install monotone 0.35 with updated (and working) boost libraries.<br />
<br />
== Add count ==<br />
<br />
Can the count of downloads be put on the page?<br />
<br />
== Fails on ncurses install in Fedora 7 with a "tic -x" message ==<br />
Adjust the following command to your system, then run it:<br />
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/moko/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/ncurses-native-5.4-r8/ncurses-5.4/lib<br />
Then start make again and it should pick up where it left off.<br />
<br />
You can get a list of potential paths to use with the following command from you main moko directory:<br />
find . | grep libncurses<br />
<br />
The basic problem is that it is linking against your main system libraries instead of the OpenEmbedded ones.<br />
<br />
There's probably a cleaner way of handling this - please update this entry if you know it.<br />
<br />
This has been fixed in Openembedded, see [http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2554 Openembedded Bug #2554] for further details.<br />
<br />
== uboot-gta01 fails to build ==<br />
Changes in the GIT of U-Boot make the OpenMoko patches unapplyable. For the use of Revision ''cc3023b9f95d7ac959a764471a65001062aecf41'' and everything will be fine for now.<br />
<br />
== Perl fails to build ==<br />
After following every bit of advice I can find to 'make clean' and nuke the perl build directories, every build comes up with:<br />
<br />
| make[1]: Entering directory `/src/openmoko/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/perl-native-5.8.7-r3/perl-5.8.7'<br />
| make[1]: *** No rule to make target `<command-line>', needed by `miniperlmain.o'. Stop.<br />
| make[1]: Leaving directory `/src/openmoko/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/perl-native-5.8.7-r3/perl-5.8.7'<br />
| FATAL: oe_runmake failed<br />
NOTE: Task failed: /src/openmoko/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/perl-native-5.8.7-r3/temp/log.do_compile.19531<br />
NOTE: package perl-native-5.8.7-r3: task do_compile: failed<br />
<br />
Solution turned out to be editing <br />
/src/openmoko/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/perl-native-5.8.7-r3/perl-5.8.7/makedepend.SH and at line 169 change the regexp to eat references to "<command.line>" to catch what was leaking through.<br />
<br />
== Gettext fails to build ==<br />
Gettext's build is broken unless you have emacs installed. Crazy though it seems. You will see an error like:<br />
<br />
<pre><br />
<br />
| WARNING: Warnings can be ignored. :-)<br />
| if test "no" != no; then \<br />
| set x; \<br />
| list='po-mode.el po-compat.el'; for p in $list; do \<br />
| if test -f "$p"; then d=; else d="./"; fi; \<br />
| set x "$@" "$d$p"; shift; \<br />
| done; \<br />
| shift; \<br />
| EMACS="no" /bin/bash ../../config/elisp-comp "$@" || exit 1; \<br />
| if test "no" != no; then \<br />
| set x; \<br />
| list='po-mode.el po-compat.el'; for p in $list; do \<br />
| if test -f "$p"; then d=; else d="./"; fi; \<br />
| set x "$@" "$d$p"; shift; \<br />
| done; \<br />
| shift; \<br />
| EMACS="no" /bin/bash ../../config/elisp-comp "$@" || exit 1; \<br />
| else : ; fi<br />
| mv: cannot move `elc-temp' to `elc-stamp': No such file or directory<br />
| make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/raster/moko/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/gettext-native-0.14.1-r5/gettext-0.14.1/gettext-tools/misc'<br />
| make[5]: *** [elc-stamp] Error 1<br />
| make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/raster/moko/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/gettext-native-0.14.1-r5/gettext-0.14.1/gettext-tools/misc'<br />
| make[4]: *** [po-mode.elc] Error 2<br />
| make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....<br />
| make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/raster/moko/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/gettext-native-0.14.1-r5/gettext-0.14.1/gettext-tools/misc'<br />
| make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1<br />
| make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/raster/moko/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/gettext-native-0.14.1-r5/gettext-0.14.1/gettext-tools'<br />
| make[2]: *** [all] Error 2<br />
| make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/raster/moko/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/gettext-native-0.14.1-r5/gettext-0.14.1/gettext-tools'<br />
| make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1<br />
| make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/raster/moko/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/gettext-native-0.14.1-r5/gettext-0.14.1'<br />
| FATAL: oe_runmake failed<br />
<br />
</pre><br />
<br />
The solution is simple - install emacs (example below for debian/ubuntu) and try again:<br />
<br />
<pre><br />
<br />
sudo apt-get install emacs<br />
make clean-package-gettext-native-0.14.1-r5<br />
make openmoko-devel-image <br />
<br />
</pre><br />
<br />
== Fails compiling binutils-cross on Gentoo/AMD64 ==<br />
<br />
make setup works fine, but when running make openmoko-devel-image it fails with the following:<br />
<br />
<pre><br />
| make[4]: Entering directory `/home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/binutils-cross-2.18-r0/binutils-2.18/build.x86_64-linux.arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libiberty/testsuite'<br />
| make[4]: Nothing to be done for `install'.<br />
| make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/binutils-cross-2.18-r0/binutils-2.18/build.x86_64-linux.arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libiberty/testsuite'<br />
| make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/binutils-cross-2.18-r0/binutils-2.18/build.x86_64-linux.arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libiberty'<br />
| make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-target'.<br />
| make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/binutils-cross-2.18-r0/binutils-2.18/build.x86_64-linux.arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi'<br />
| make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/binutils-cross-2.18-r0/binutils-2.18/build.x86_64-linux.arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi'<br />
| rmdir: /home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/cross//home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/cross/lib/gcc-lib: No such file or directory<br />
| rmdir: /home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/cross//home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/cross/lib: No such file or directory<br />
| rmdir: /home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/cross//home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/cross: No such file or directory<br />
| mv: cannot stat `/home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/cross/lib/libiberty.a': No such file or directory<br />
NOTE: Task failed: /home/techiem2/Moko/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/binutils-cross-2.18-r0/temp/log.do_stage.9730<br />
NOTE: package binutils-cross-2.18-r0: task do_populate_staging: failed<br />
ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting<br />
NOTE: package binutils-cross-2.18: failed<br />
ERROR: Build of /home/techiem2/Moko/openembedded/packages/binutils/binutils-cross_2.18.bb do_populate_staging failed<br />
ERROR: Task 1641 (/home/techiem2/Moko/openembedded/packages/binutils/binutils-cross_2.18.bb, do_populate_staging) failed<br />
NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 107 tasks of which 107 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed.<br />
ERROR: '/home/techiem2/Moko/openembedded/packages/binutils/binutils-cross_2.18.bb' failed<br />
make: *** [openmoko-devel-image] Error 1<br />
</pre></div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Qtopia_on_Neo1973Talk:Qtopia on Neo19732007-09-19T17:06:48Z<p>Techiem2: /* Dual Booting? */</p>
<hr />
<div>*How responsive is the Qtopia UI on the Neo? --[[User:Denis std|denis_std]] 13:12, 18 September 2007 (CEST)****<br />
**From watching the videos Qtopia seems quite responsive. --[[User:Denis std|denis_std]] 16:42, 18 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
***Confirmed: quite responsive in gta-01. [[User:Kresp0|kresp0]] 11:45, 19 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
== Where do I find / how do I install?? ==<br />
<br />
*Are calls/SMSs working?<br />
**Yes, but you need to do "alsactl -f /etc/alsa/gsmhandset.state restore" to get audio. [[User:Kresp0|kresp0]] 11:45, 19 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
*How do you input characters other than letters?<br />
**Do a quick flick up or down over the keyboard to access numbers/symbols/capitals.<br />
<br />
== Where can I find/install applications for Qtopia? ==<br />
<br />
== Dual Booting? ==<br />
Being the geek I am, I just have to ask, will we be able to dual boot Qtopia and OpenMoko? :) (feel free to move this if I'm asking in the wrong place) <br />
<br />
[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 13:00, 19 September 2007 (EST)</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Qtopia_on_Neo1973Talk:Qtopia on Neo19732007-09-19T17:06:34Z<p>Techiem2: /* Dual Booting? */</p>
<hr />
<div>*How responsive is the Qtopia UI on the Neo? --[[User:Denis std|denis_std]] 13:12, 18 September 2007 (CEST)****<br />
**From watching the videos Qtopia seems quite responsive. --[[User:Denis std|denis_std]] 16:42, 18 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
***Confirmed: quite responsive in gta-01. [[User:Kresp0|kresp0]] 11:45, 19 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
== Where do I find / how do I install?? ==<br />
<br />
*Are calls/SMSs working?<br />
**Yes, but you need to do "alsactl -f /etc/alsa/gsmhandset.state restore" to get audio. [[User:Kresp0|kresp0]] 11:45, 19 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
*How do you input characters other than letters?<br />
**Do a quick flick up or down over the keyboard to access numbers/symbols/capitals.<br />
<br />
== Where can I find/install applications for Qtopia? ==<br />
<br />
== Dual Booting? ==<br />
Being the geek I am, I just have to ask, will we be able to dual boot Qtopia and OpenMoko? :) (feel free to move this if I'm asking in the wrong place) <br />
[[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 13:00, 19 September 2007 (EST)</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Qtopia_on_Neo1973Talk:Qtopia on Neo19732007-09-19T17:06:15Z<p>Techiem2: /* Dual Booting? */</p>
<hr />
<div>*How responsive is the Qtopia UI on the Neo? --[[User:Denis std|denis_std]] 13:12, 18 September 2007 (CEST)****<br />
**From watching the videos Qtopia seems quite responsive. --[[User:Denis std|denis_std]] 16:42, 18 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
***Confirmed: quite responsive in gta-01. [[User:Kresp0|kresp0]] 11:45, 19 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
== Where do I find / how do I install?? ==<br />
<br />
*Are calls/SMSs working?<br />
**Yes, but you need to do "alsactl -f /etc/alsa/gsmhandset.state restore" to get audio. [[User:Kresp0|kresp0]] 11:45, 19 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
*How do you input characters other than letters?<br />
**Do a quick flick up or down over the keyboard to access numbers/symbols/capitals.<br />
<br />
== Where can I find/install applications for Qtopia? ==<br />
<br />
== Dual Booting? ==<br />
Being the geek I am, I just have to ask, will we be able to dual boot Qtopia and OpenMoko? :) (feel free to move this if I'm asking in the wrong place) [[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 13:00, 19 September 2007 (EST)</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Qtopia_on_Neo1973Talk:Qtopia on Neo19732007-09-19T17:04:11Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>*How responsive is the Qtopia UI on the Neo? --[[User:Denis std|denis_std]] 13:12, 18 September 2007 (CEST)****<br />
**From watching the videos Qtopia seems quite responsive. --[[User:Denis std|denis_std]] 16:42, 18 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
***Confirmed: quite responsive in gta-01. [[User:Kresp0|kresp0]] 11:45, 19 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
== Where do I find / how do I install?? ==<br />
<br />
*Are calls/SMSs working?<br />
**Yes, but you need to do "alsactl -f /etc/alsa/gsmhandset.state restore" to get audio. [[User:Kresp0|kresp0]] 11:45, 19 September 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
*How do you input characters other than letters?<br />
**Do a quick flick up or down over the keyboard to access numbers/symbols/capitals.<br />
<br />
== Where can I find/install applications for Qtopia? ==<br />
<br />
== Dual Booting? ==<br />
Being the geek I am, I just have to ask, will we be able to dual boot Qtopia and OpenMoko? :) [[User:Techiem2|Techiem2]] 13:00, 19 September 2007 (EST)</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22007-09-14T20:44:08Z<p>Techiem2: /* About Me */</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com<br />
<br />
TWiki at Web Site at home: https://techiem2.no-ip.com/twiki/bin/view<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Audiovox Snapper<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' Virgin Mobile Prepaid ($5.30/month with taxes charged every 90 days, $.18/min - I don't use my phone much)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
Ideally it should be running a SIP client with SRTP/ZRTP capabilities for secure communications.<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I don't know if I would use it as a cell phone or not.<br />
<br />
There's only one GSM provider in my area (Cellular One) who apparently is probably being acquired by AT&T.<br />
<br />
AT&T and T-Mobile both look like their networks cover here, but they don't offer service here (I wonder if that would change if the AT&T/Cellular One buyout goes through...).<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist/GamesWishlist/Games2007-09-14T18:35:26Z<p>Techiem2: /* Candidates for porting/cross compiling */ - Alphabetized and added TOME</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Wishlist}}<br />
<br />
=== Games on OpenMoko ===<br />
<br />
This is the page to centralize the suggestions for creating games on the OpenMoko device.<br />
<br />
===== Existing game concepts that could be realized =====<br />
* Simple Flash games like [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/squares2.php Squares2] are often very addicting and good for short playing sessions. Other examples: Bejewelled, Zoo Keeper, [http://novelconcepts.co.uk/FlashElementTD/ Flash Element TD ], ... <br />
* A classic shooter can work well with continous fire and touchscreen controls. An example is Kenta Cho's Java version of [http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cs8k-cyu/java/noiz2_e.html Noiz2] <br />
* Same is true for a 3D shooter with no/seldom used additional controls. For example a combat flying game like Hunt for the [http://www.smallrockets.com/pc/baron/ Red Baron]. You can control the speed with a slider, shoot rockets and drop bombs with special buttons but those are things you only need from time to time. Most of the time you are shooting continously and aiming which can be done in the corner of the touchscreen (so it doesn't obstruct your view). Use accelerators for steering?<br />
* Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan/Elite Beat Agents - Rhythm-based touching of circles and paths on the screen is a great concept and shouldn't be that difficult to pull off if you leave out some of the great presentation.<br />
* Pac Pix - The necessary shape-recognition would probably be difficult to manage with a small budget but the general idea is quite cool.<br />
* Kirby Canvas Curse - Again, not easy to do with a small budget.<br />
* Burning Sand/Falling Sand- already supported on a DS [http://siebn.de/]<br />
* Breakout - all you need to do is move the paddle back and forth<br />
* Pong - same as above<br />
* [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_Builder Bridge Builder] - setting up Architectures, with a limited Budget and see if it can withstand. Doesn't have to be limited on Bridges.<br />
* Volfied - you cut pieces of the screen while dodging baddies and you win when you get to X%<br />
<br />
===== Candidates for porting/cross compiling =====<br />
* [http://www.fade-team.com/acedior.htm Acedior] - A classic graphic adventure game.<br />
* Checkers, Chess, Minesweeper (interesting touchscreen variation: [http://toyspring.com/3dm/ 3D Mines] by Toyspring, Solitaire, Mahjong, Connect Four, Tic-tac-toe, Black Jack<br />
* Command & Conquer and Red Alert - [http://sourceforge.net/projects/freera/ FreeRA]<br />
* Creating a Nethack port could be done. Tony said on the list: "I'm not entirely sure yet. I imagine I'll first do a text port with a "portal" view (in which you only see a part of the screen at a time), and a user-selected font size. Then I'd try a tiles-based port. It all depends on how readable the text is on the small screen."<br />
* [http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/ DOSBox] - would give the Opportunity to play dozens of DOS Games, like [http://www.abandonia.com/games/en/466/LandsofLore.htm Lands of Lore]<br />
* [http://www.nongnu.org/enigma/ Enigma] A tilt maze-like puzzle game with 1000 levels (requires LUA).<br />
* [http://www.frozen-bubble.org/ Frozen Bubble] <br />
* [http://www.tucows.com/preview/9259 Gem Drop]<br />
* GJeweled<br />
* [http://www.aeonflame.com/ Gloop Zero] - A little like physics-based Lemmings. Get the liquid from one part of the level to another with tools like path-drawing, bombs, anti-gravity...<br />
* [http://gnome-sudoku.sourceforge.net/ Gnome Sudoku]<br />
* [http://web.mit.edu/xiphmont/Public/gPlanarity.html gPlanarity] would be a nice stylus game.<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_of_Might_and_Magic Heroes of Might and Magic] maybe can be port this [http://www.pocketheroes.net/ Pocket Heroes] for PocketPC<br />
* [http://redshift.hu/ Legacy] (and successor The Quest) - Classic first person turn based RPG. Movement and menus can completely be controlled with the touchscreen.<br />
* [http://www.ufoot.org/liquidwar Liquid War] Liquid War is a unique multiplayer wargame.<br />
* [http://www.mame.net/ MAME] - Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. This versatile emulator turns a given platform into a powerful gaming system. It has been ported to WinCE and many UNIX flavors as well. It would be wonderul to have this on the OpenMoko.<br />
* [http://www.mess.org/ MESS] - Multiple Emulator Super System. To emulate old computers like TI 99/4A, C64, ...<br />
* Nethack, you could move just touching the direction you want to go.<br />
* [http://www.openttd.com Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe]. Very possible, in fact the author of the Palm & GP2X ports of the game is already interested in OpenMoko.<br />
* [http://treacle.hewwo.com/jazz/oj/ OpenJazz] Jazz Jackrabbit clone, needs original data. Would need some external controller or [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:Neo1973:Alternate_Cases:Digital_gaming that] alternate case<br />
* Pipe Dreams<br />
* [http://www.clickgamer.com/moreinfo.htm?pid=4188&section=PALM Plazmoids!] - A space game with screen-size levels. Move your ship around by touching where it should go. Collect the plazmoids (asteroids) by catching them in your elastic tractor beam (lots of simple physics again), shoot enemies with a button or double tap.<br />
* Racing Games, like [http://xmoto.sourceforge.net/ XMoto], [http://vdrift.net/ VDrift], [http://ecksdee.sourceforge.net/ Ecksdee] or more likely [http://www.emhsoft.com/ttrooper/ Torus Trooper]<br />
* [http://www.scummvm.org/ ScummVM] - Allows you to run certain classic graphical point-and-click adventure games '''Done - see [[Scummvm]]'''<br />
* [http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ Simon Tatham's Portable Puzzle Collection] is GTK based and includes, among others, both Sudoku and Planarity style games called Solo and Untangle.<br />
* That addictive Photo game where you have to spot the 5 differences in x seconds<br />
* [http://www.t-o-m-e.net TOME] - Roguelike set in Tolkein universe (2.x is current, 3.0 is in devel) that makes wide use of lua scripting, TOME and maybe some modules or other standalone versions such as [http://www.furytech.net/furyband/furyband.php Furyband] should be playable with a virtual keyboard on the go or with a real usb/bluetooth keyboard.<br />
* [http://www.warfareincorporated.com/ Warfare Inc.] - A full real time strategy game is no problem with a touchscreen. In fact, it's a lot of fun!<br />
* [http://www.widelands.org/ Widelands] A Settlers 2 clone<br />
<br />
===== General ideas about games on OpenMoko =====<br />
* A easy network library for Bluetooth and/or GPRS connectivity.<br />
* Every turn-based game should be possible with on screen buttons. <br />
* Action games should need only one main control action most of the time such as moving somewhere on a 2D plane, aiming in 3D, drawing a path. Special items and actions are possible but should only be needed from time to time. Moving and aiming independently could be done by using the accelerometers for walking and the touchscreen for aiming.<br />
* The finger getting into the way of seeing what's going on is a problem. Most games would probably need a stylus. Games with first person aiming can be controlled with a thumb in one corner of the screen, however you'd probably need one of them thumbstraps they make for the DS so that your thumb glides over the screen with ease.<br />
* GPS can be used for location based games. An example is [http://codeninja.de/tron/ Tron]. Links to location-based/Alternate Reality games in these [http://del.icio.us/tallpaul/games+street del.icio.us pages]<br />
* Bluetooth controllers should be supported. I am especially thinking about the Nintendo Wii remote.<br />
* Virtually Real Games; the OpenMoko, with it's network connectivity and loads of basic features, could be used to invent/encourage a new(ish) style of game that mixes reality and tech. A basic version would be urban tag; you get close to someone and the buzzer beeps faster, say. There's so many more creative possibilities though.<br />
<br />
What is not possible without magic tricks / an external controller*:<br />
* Classic first person shooters, action adventures, jump 'n' runs<br />
* Emulators for classic systems<br />
* Network lib for easy Bluetooth and/or GPRS connections.<br />
* Bluetooth controllers should be supported. I am especially thinking about the Nintendo Wii remote.<br />
* If version 2 of the hardware has an accelerometer a [http://www.rubylane.com/shops/molotov/item/SUN1769 tilt maze ball game] is possible.<br />
<br />
===== Accelerometer based games =====<br />
* Sliding block games, to reassemble pictures.<br />
* Rolling ball games, where you navigate a ball or balls through a maze.<br />
** Multiplayer versions of the above - who can get the ball to the hole first?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
*Reallife RPG Firstpersonshooter<br />
<br />
**RL-RPG-FPS<br />
**Neo as board computers<br />
<br />
**Bluetooth DEVICE with:<br />
***3d Accerometer<br />
***3d compass<br />
*** various buttons to fire etc.<br />
<br />
**wlan servers as gamarea<br />
*** with shot direction becomes via compass<br />
*** own psoition via gps<br />
*** kind of the weapon<br />
*** over wlan transfer <br />
*** and enemydevice announces hit<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Much of this could be accomplished with [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#More.2FCustom_Input_Method_Widgets Custom Input Method Widgets] for the keyboard.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Games]]<br />
[[Category:Accelerometer]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22007-09-09T07:06:53Z<p>Techiem2: /* SIP Phone */</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Audiovox Snapper<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' Virgin Mobile Prepaid ($5.30/month with taxes charged every 90 days, $.18/min - I don't use my phone much)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
Ideally it should be running a SIP client with SRTP/ZRTP capabilities for secure communications.<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I don't know if I would use it as a cell phone or not.<br />
<br />
There's only one GSM provider in my area (Cellular One) who apparently is probably being acquired by AT&T.<br />
<br />
AT&T and T-Mobile both look like their networks cover here, but they don't offer service here (I wonder if that would change if the AT&T/Cellular One buyout goes through...).<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22007-09-09T07:00:14Z<p>Techiem2: /* About Me */</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com techiem2@DONTSPAMHEREgmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Audiovox Snapper<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' Virgin Mobile Prepaid ($5.30/month with taxes charged every 90 days, $.18/min - I don't use my phone much)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I don't know if I would use it as a cell phone or not.<br />
<br />
There's only one GSM provider in my area (Cellular One) who apparently is probably being acquired by AT&T.<br />
<br />
AT&T and T-Mobile both look like their networks cover here, but they don't offer service here (I wonder if that would change if the AT&T/Cellular One buyout goes through...).<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_ListWish List2007-09-02T14:32:34Z<p>Techiem2: /* VOIP */</p>
<hr />
<div>This article is a place to collect various thoughts about the future of the [[OpenMoko]] software platform. Most wish list ideas have been linked from this page, but you may also wish to check all pages [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Ideas that have a category of 'Ideas'].<br />
<br />
== Development ==<br />
=== Painless SDK installation & Setup ===<br />
Our goal should be a completely painless setup for somebody wanting to develop using [[OpenMoko]]<br />
<br />
* one command for installation (apt-get install openmoko)<br />
* one command to start Xnest (openmoko-xephyr?)<br />
* one command to start an i386 shell (openmoko-386-shell)<br />
* one command to start an armel shell (openmoko-armel-shell)<br />
<br />
No extra configuration required.<br />
<br />
==== IDE Plugins ====<br />
People like to see plugins for<br />
* [http://anjuta.sourceforge.net Anjuta]<br />
* [http://www.eclipse.org Eclipse]<br />
* Game engine - Game Creation plugins<br />
evaluate eclipse project [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/index.php Device Software Development Platform Project from eclipse] and subproject [http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/tml/ Tool for Mobile Linux]<br />
* [http://www.kdevelop.org KDevelop]<br />
* [http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/ XCode]<br />
* [http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/ Microsoft Visual Studio 2005]<br />
<br />
==== UI Designer ====<br />
Glade code generation is deprecated, so we don't want to use it. The Gtk+ powers told me that the plan is to have gtk 2.12 (out early 2007) with support for GtkBuilder, a libglade derivative which breaks a bit the XML definition in order to support all the new widgets and properties; as soon as it's in the other ui builders will add support for this format. See also [http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172535 the relevant bug entry]<br />
* Possibly a Landscape (rotated) view for the screen (480x640 *or* 640x480)?<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Built-in Scripting Language ====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage}}<br />
There was a [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001909.html fruitful discussion about a built-in scripting language on the mailing list in January.] Many people feel that it is very important for OpenMoko to choose a scripting language to ship as default in the standard OpenMoko firmware. <br />
<br />
===Foreign Widget Set Bindings ===<br />
==== Qt Integration ====<br />
The Trolltech folks have a great widget library. I'd like to interface OpenMoko with Qt4, so that we can write Qt4 applications for the phone which don't look alienated.<br />
<br />
==== Maemo Integration ====<br />
The Maemo folks have created a successful standard for Webpad applications. I'd like to have a set of MaemoMoko and MokoMaemo wrapper classes that allow me add support for running OpenMoko applications on Maemo and vice versa. Perhaps we can get help from the Nokia OSS folks for that.<br />
<br />
==== wxWidgets Integration ====<br />
wxWidgets is a cross-platform application framework that's very popular (I'd say, #3 after Qt and Gtk+). On Linux, wxWidgets uses Gtk+ to implement the widgets. It shouldn't be hard to add support for the additional OpenMoko classes to wxWidgets hence supporting the native OpenMoko look and feel for wxWidgets applications.<br />
<br />
wxWidgets team wants OpenMoko classes too and we (wxWidgets) plan to include this project as one of our ideas for [http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2007/02/speaking-of-summer.html GSoC 2007]<br />
<br />
==== SDL Integration ====<br />
SDL is ''the'' game developer library. There are tons of SDL games out there. We should add OpenMoko support into SDL.<br />
<br />
=== Software: Language bindings ===<br />
==== Python bindings ====<br />
Python bindings seem to be a commonly requested feature. <br />
<br />
[[User:Mickey]] says, "They are kind of usable on the [http://www.maemo.org Nokia 770], but it's at the lower end of being bearable. We should keep this in mind -- Gtk+ already comes with Python Bindings, so we "just" would need to wrap libmoko*. I would prefer to leave this to the community do though, since it doesn't make sense to start wrapping the API until we have a stable API -- and I can imagine it will take us a couple of months after going open until we can start with stabilizing the libmoko API."<br />
<br />
==== C++ bindings ====<br />
There is a whole skilled C++ community coming from the [http://qtopia.net Qtopia] and [http://opie.handhelds.org Opie] projects. If we would consider basing OpenMoko C++ Bindings on [http://www.gtkmm.org/ Gtkmm], then we could drag these guys in.<br />
<br />
==== Other bindings ====<br />
* Perl<br />
* Ruby<br />
* C#<br />
* I think you could skip a bunch of these by binding to Dbus; most languages already have Dbus bindings<br />
<br />
== Community Support ==<br />
<br />
=== [http://projects.openmoko.org projects.openmoko.org] ===<br />
Infrastructure for developers with<br />
* One bugzilla for all projects (makes moving bugs forth and backwards between projects ''very'' easy)<br />
* One mailing list for project<br />
<br />
== Platform ==<br />
=== Community Images ===<br />
In the future there could be complete, unofficial "product images" that are created by the community, for example maybe one that incorporates only free software (in the GNU or OSI sense). Or images build with a particular niche market in mind -- a student for example.<br />
<br />
=== Wishlist voting ===<br />
There could be a kind of voting system like they have at one of those big computer manufacturers homepage. Then the community could vote for the ideas that are most important to them. This would especially make sense for the hardware wishlist, because the hardware is still the part which can't be done by the community that easily.<br />
<br />
== Software: Additional features ==<br />
===Calling===<br />
<br />
==== Mask ID based on dialed numbers ====<br />
It would be nice if my number only showed up when I call people in my address book and was otherwise masked. The phone I have now either always shows my number or never or can be set on a per call basis. Having it done automatically based on the number dialed would be good.<br />
<br />
==== Use calling cards and similar routing techniques for lower-cost calling ====<br />
Many people use calling cards, low-cost numbers and similar ways of reducing the costs of their calls. It would be nice to have a single panel that would allow you to configure the rules of dialing a number taking in to account such systems.<br />
<br />
==== Outgoing black/white lists ====<br />
The ability to allow or deny outoging calls to certain numbers can be useful in a number of situations (e.g. the holder of the 'phone is a child, untrusted, etc.). This could be related to entries in the contact list, for example a user is only allowed to call people who are in their contact list.<br />
<br />
Also lists for incoming calls? Some friends always come through, unknown numbers get rejected automatically.<br />
<br />
==== Time-based blocking/unblocking of calls ====<br />
Allowing or disallowing outgoing calls at certain times of the day could be useful, e.g. blocking a business phone from making calls outside of business hours.<br />
<br />
====Speaker-phone====<br />
* A speaker-phone is more than simply connecting the speakers to GSM audio, it's also echo cancellation, and eliminating the feedback that will otherwise happen between the speakers and the mic. This software has not been written.<br />
<br />
====Advanced Airtime Tracking====<br />
Many phone users have complicated plans, things like unlimited incoming, 100 anytime minutes, 1000 evening minutes, etc. It would be nice if a user could input the various monthly airtime chunks their plan gives them, and then the phone could track how much is left in each chunk, i.e. How much anytime minutes are left this month? Optionally, the software could warn when someone is close to the monthly limit, to help avoid bigger bills.<br />
<br />
==== Anti-stutter software ====<br />
Delayed Auditory Feedback (DAF) has shown to reduce stuttering in individuals by 70%. By using the microphone, it should be pretty simple to implement this on the OpenMoko. The DAF functionality should also be present during phone calls. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_auditory_feedback for more information.<br />
<br />
====Minimize In-Call mode (check address book while in call)====<br />
On my locked phones I always find it annoying that one can not use other features while a call is in progress. In particular, I'd like to access the address book so that we can (1) give a caller someone else's phone number (or other info) and (2) lookup a phone number when using a calling card or some other proxy.<br />
<br />
Similar request when using the browser (lookup passwords, todo list, etc).<br />
<br />
====Hold Music (Ringback Tone)====<br />
On some cellphone networks you can pay to change the normal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringback_tone Ringback Tone] that the caller hears when ringing, to a customised sound.<br />
This can partially be implemented on the phone.<br />
Issues are:<br />
*In countries where callers pay, this will make you unpopular.<br />
*In countries where the called party pays, it will use your minutes, or cost you money.<br />
**A list of people to activate this function for would alleviate this.<br />
*[[GPRS]] internet connection will stall while the hold music is being played.<br />
*Extra battery used when playing music.<br />
<br />
Also see [[Answering Machine]].<br />
<br />
====Play sound clips over the air====<br />
Dialer could have a tab with big buttons which, when push, send sound clips over GSM to the person on the other end of the call. This feature is included in GizmoProject and is called sound blasts: http://support.gizmoproject.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=104<br />
The buttons can have default sounds, but also have the ability to be customized.<br />
<br />
It would also be useful to loop a pre-recorded sound in the background so you can lie about where you are, and have the ability to simulate a really bad connection.<br />
<br />
==== Conversation Recorder ====<br />
<br />
An option to record phone conversations. Would be helpful to have the device always recording for every call, with the sound data encoded to low quality Ogg Vorbis or SPEEX and stored in RAM. At the end of the conversation the user would have the option to save to flash or discard the conversation. This idea could also be applied to voicemail so you could save voicemails locally.<br />
<br />
====Unlicensed Mobile Access (UMA)====<br />
T-Mobile recently rolled out a UMA service that hands off calls between the GSM network and WiFi access points. Only a few phones support it right now, this could be a rather unique feature if OpenMoko can implement it.<br />
<br />
==== Ignore-Call Button ====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Ignore Call Button}}<br />
<br />
Shut up a ringing phone, without accepting or rejecting the call.<br />
<br />
Another alternative might be to use microphone to recognize when the user gives an audible "Shhh!" command. This could prove difficult to determine with the simultaneous ringing, and possible in-pocket shuffling noises.<br />
<br />
==== Voice Mailbox ====<br />
{{Main|Voice Mailbox}}<br />
On-Phone voice mailbox that records calls on the phone and retrieves voice messages from your mobile service provider's voice mailbox and saves them locally.<br />
Can act profile-dependent.<br />
<br />
==== Hold Button ====<br />
<br />
Similar to mute, but plays a sound file for the user on the other end while they wait. The sound file could be chosen in some setup beforehand.<br />
<br />
==== Unanswered Call, Fast Call ====<br />
<br />
In Greece because of the various bill programs some people call a mobile phone, rings one time and then hangup.<br />
Then the user of the mobile phone calls the other user(using the CallerID recognition).<br />
<br />
===Audio===<br />
<br />
==== Ambient Noise Detection ====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Ambient Noise Detection}}<br />
<br />
Using the microphone to detect ambient noise the ringtone volume could be adjusted automatically.<br />
<br />
Detection of ambient noise could also be used to subtract the noise from the audio signal. However this approach is best performed using two Microphones, one for the voice and the other to detect the noise.<br />
<br />
==== Active noise control ====<br />
<br />
Using the microphone to do [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-noise active noise control] on media player playback or telephone calls. This should be an independent module/library which can be used by any application which might require this feature. also provide a way to easily alter the parameters of the active noise control.<br />
<br />
==== Hear Impaired Mode ====<br />
<br />
Hearing impaired people need louder speaker(but with less volume than hands free) and equalized sound, based on their hearing problems(example 20dB hearing loss from 2KHz to 4KHz).<br />
Older people 50+ years old need slower speech rate(time stretch, cut the big speech gups) and cleaner voice.<br />
<br />
Please note also the Hearing Aid Compatibility regulations in the US. I have tried to summarize and clarify them [http://quux.wiki.zoho.com/WhereAreHACphones.html here]. I haven't yet discovered whether the FIC device is M or T rated. For many hearing impaired users, a tcoil coupling to their hearing aid (t3/T4 rating) would be preferable to manipulating sound output in other ways.<br />
<br />
==== Mute Button ====<br />
<br />
Button to temporarily disable microphone while talking for applications such as telephone, audio recording and (when available) movie recording.<br />
<br />
===Media===<br />
====Music/Video Software====<br />
A real good programming area for competition with the iPhone, a singular video/music player would be great for multimedia. A seamless integration system, a la iTunes and iPod, would be extremely popular. <br />
<br />
Using the Wi-Fi connectivity, a separate music program that supports wireless music sharing/ streaming (similar to what can be done when two computer running iTunes that are both on the same network) and that also supports internet radio.<br />
<br />
==== Reading Support ====<br />
It would be really great to be able to read :<br />
<br />
*PDF<br />
*Open Document files<br />
*Text / RTF files<br />
*MS Office files<br />
*Aportis Doc (pdb)<br />
*DjVu<br />
*...<br />
<br />
In both landscape and portrait<br />
<br />
==== Wikipedia Mirror ====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Wikipedia_Mirror}}<br />
<br />
==== Blog ScribblePad ====<br />
<br />
Draw an image (and maybe add some text), then post to your blog.<br />
<br />
==== E-Book Reader ====<br />
* Neos brilliant ultra-sharp screen makes for a very good e-book reading device. All it takes is a good e-book reader with touch-screen page turning / scrolling. FBReader could probably be adjusted easily by an experienced GTK hacker. Note that e-book reading is different to pure text/pdf displaying as it requires at least auto-bookmarking of the last read page, proper text and image scaling and text formatting.<br />
<br />
==== Personal Wiki ====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:PersonalWiki}}<br />
<br />
Display the notes database as a Wiki. Inspiration: [http://www.acrocat.com/AcroWiki/default.asp?lang=en AcroWiki].<br />
<br />
[http://www.didiwiki.org/ Didiwiki]<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Dictionary, thesaurus, translator and flashcards ====<br />
Native lookup dictionary and thesaurus and foreign translation dictionaries, also with support for Asian languages. Optional custom configurable (though preconfigured) interface with on-line versions of dictionaries, thesaurus and translation services.<br />
<br />
Support for vocabulary training with flashcard system (also usable for other content than foreign language words!)<br />
<br />
===PIM (Personal Information Managment)===<br />
====Context Sensitivity====<br />
Any email or sms message or application that contains a telephone number should be click to dial, eg [http://123567890 1234567890]. Addresses link to mapping software too?<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Address Book ====<br />
<br />
* Option to search not just the stored list of addresses, but one or more of the online phonebooks. Probably should be modular to make adding/changing phonebook sites easy. Also allows for future integration with LDAP<br />
servers or whatever.<br />
* Also the possibility to search all info on the contact, like number, email, postal address and so on, in case someone asks you to identify a known number.<br />
* Web-based map-lookup. 'How do I get there from here? (here = current GPS location)' This could also be done<br />
by integrating with whatever on-phone GPS mapping software the Neo ends up using.<br />
* Random text input 'notes' about a contact<br />
* Overall, this should more resemble a Palm-pilot's address-book than your average cellphone's<br />
* Automated Daily backup of phone book to a website archive (similar to Verizon's Back-up Assistant<br />
*Ability to integrate address book with web-based email (such as gmail) account, for those who use web based email as their primary account<br />
* '''[[Wishlist:Tagging|Tagging]]''' Place tags for contacts. Enhance message application to send messages to all contacts tagged with ... . Enhance other application(GPS, ...) with tags.<br />
* Support for:<br />
**[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyncML SyncML]<br />
**[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ldap LDAP] address book<br />
**[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDIF LDIF], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xml XML] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values CSV] export and import (when possible).<br />
*Store Bluetooth IDs of friends and notify (configurable only on this device or on both devices) when a one of these Bluetooth ID has been detected (this is more a separate application but has requirements on the address book. Should also be able to create an address book entry from a Bluetooth ID. Could be used as a nice tool to detect people who you're avoiding.<br />
<br />
==== Database/List Display/Edit ====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:PilotDB}}<br />
<br />
One of the most useful apps on my Palm Pilot for me is [http://pilot-db.sourceforge.net/ pilot-db]. It's GPL'd.<br />
<br />
==== Joe's Goals ====<br />
<br />
It'd be nice to have something like [http://www.joesgoals.com Joe's Goals] always available, like my phone is, even when I'm disconnected from the net.<br />
<br />
==== Workout ====<br />
<br />
Use your phone instead of your notebook while at the gym, and get pretty graphs to admire after you're done.<br />
<br />
==== Shopping List ====<br />
keep Track of Prices in different shops and the products you have/don't have. Ideally using a barcode reader and gps.<br />
If it was made aware of recipes it could even tell you what to buy without entering a shoppinglist manually.<br />
<br />
==== Fuel Log ====<br />
File data about fueling your car (date/time, liters, price, mileage, ...) and display some information (costs per month, average consumption, ...).<br />
Advanced features could include:<br />
* Automatically storing the GPS coordinates of the place where the car has been fueled (can be deactivated)<br />
* Sending the data to a central server which collects the information<br />
* Let the OpenMoko receive fuel logs per SMS (e.g. if my wife with a non-openmoko mobile fuels the car and wants to file the data using her mobile phone)<br />
* Let the OpenMoko device act as SMS gateway for non-openmoko devices to easily send the data to the central server<br />
* Also support for air log for divers. Not that you will take this device under water but for the crew at the surface.<br />
<br />
==== Keep in touch reminder ====<br />
A background application which keeps track of your friends and reminds you when you have not talked, SMS, IM or mailed a person for more than # days.<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Menstruation period timer ====<br />
Fill in statistics and compute probabilities for menstruation, fertility, mood.<br />
See http://www.getjar.com/products/48/MyGirls<br />
<br />
==== Tagging ====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Tagging}}<br />
Tags can be used by various applications. Requirement is interoperability for further enhancement.<br />
Tags should be applied to calendar events, mail/sms, calls, places(GPS) and files.<br />
<br />
==== Context based TO-DO list ====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:context based to-do list}}<br />
<br />
If I arrive home and there are "@home" things in the to-do list, the Context based to-do list reminds me of that.<br />
<br />
==== Exchange Integration ====<br />
<br />
Once there is good TCP/IP connectivity on this phone, integration with corporate email/calendar/to do/etc servers would be a big advantage... near-real-time automatic email downloads and automatic bi-directional syncing are productivity boosters that you have to experience to appreciate. It turns your phone from a 'nice gadget to fiddle with' to a natural-feeling extension of your day-to-day life.<br />
<br />
* Is the time right to name names ? Add as your liking...<br />
** Plugin/integration to & from Kontact<br />
** Same with Evolution - Thunderbird - Seamonkey<br />
** ?? Google Calendars ?? (this one is tough)<br />
** Ms Exchange<br />
<br />
==== An electronic wallet ====<br />
<br />
A database which stores securely PIN codes, login data, bank and email accounts, membership informations, and other valuable and private data. Entries can be ordered in a folder-like manner. Access to the database is given by a master password. The database as well as the master password are stored with strong encryption. For security reasons, the program asks again for entry of the master password after a certain period of inactivity. The database can be synchronized with a PC application (ideally written in Java for cross platform compatibility).<br />
<br />
Examples: KWallet [http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeutils/kwallet/index.html], Viskeeper [http://www.sfr-software.de/cms/EN/pocketpc/viskeeperpro/index.html], KeePass [http://keepass.info/]<br />
<br />
==== Easy business card sharing for a small group (in the same room) over bluetooth or WIFI ====<br />
<br />
Six Neo1973 owners are having a chat in a cafe. They agree to split but meet later. They want to exchange their numbers with each other before they go.... The normal way to do this is for a rather longwinded repeating of numbers to each other, or half the people manually inputting numbers before phoning/texting the other half to complete the process. All in all its a fair number of button presses to get it sorted.<br />
<br />
Instead the NEO could have a small app where the phones link up in a small peer to peer Bluetooth network and share automatically with one person initiating a request and the other detected NEOS agreeing/acknowledging the share. The initiating NEO would then sync the mini-group automatically by interrogating each phone and then sending the table of results. The NEOs would have to be clever about checking for duplicates in the address book and offering a choice to the user if there are any conflicts.<br />
<br />
PROS: <br />
*genuine saving in time for social and business situations<br />
<br />
CONS: <br />
*I am sure there are some security hassles to be pondered....<br />
*not going to be used every day... definitely not an immediate priority.....<br />
*only at geek conferences will all have a neo....<br />
<br />
===Profiles===<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Profiles}}<br />
<br />
The Wishlist:Profiles page documents many possible profiles - ways to configure the phone. Including ways to respond to calls, wifi and GPS events.<br />
And how to automatically switch between them.<br />
<br />
===Text Messaging===<br />
For '''Text Input related ideas''' see [[Wishlist:Text_Input]]. Bear in mind that T9 can not be included<br />
For current development status of the messaging-app see: [[Messages]].<br />
<br />
There are many useful options that now can be used to full capacity:<br />
* '''Acknowledge/status SMS'''<br />
In GSM networks so-called acknowledge-SMS are sent back to the SMS's dispatcher in order to indicate that the primal sms was received (as message delivery is only best effort and is not guaranteed). So in the SMS dialog there could be equal sized buttons with captions as 'send only', 'send and receive delivery status message' and 'send and notify (e.g. ring) when delivery succeeded'.<br />
** '''Special handling of status-SMS''' <br />
Related to the previous entry, these acknowledgment-sms' should be handled in a different way than normal SMS'. Most Motorola do this, while Samsung SGH series don't & clog the inbox, warn of a "new" message upon Status notification: Delivery Status Messages should be stored in a separate menu so they don't bloat the received-folder and you are able to quickly review the status of the messages you had sent.<br />
* '''SMS at time/date''' You could be able to set up messages that are sent at a certain time/date<br />
* '''Binary SMS''' Send binary SMS. Could be used to feign WAP pushes. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Messaging_Service] See: <br />
** Resource for SMS encoding: [http://web.archive.org/web/20021016104345/www.dreamfabric.com/sms/] [http://web.archive.org/web/20060411222332/] [http://home.student.utwente.nl/s.p.ekkebus/portfolio/resource/sms_pdu.html] [http://www.ihub.com/Binary%20Messages.htm]<br />
** [http://www.gammu.org www.gammu.org] - you can use Gammu/Gammu+ source for this software and/or understanding various SMS formats including EMS, WAP, Nokia Smart Messaging, Siemens & Alcatel encoding ([[User:Marcin|I could]] eventually help)<br />
** Resource for SMS encoding (German): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS-Kodierung<br />
** The infamous pocketpc-attack: http://www.mulliner.org/pocketpc/<br />
* '''Profile-override-SMS''' SMS that start with a certain code word override the silent profile and have the phone ring. So someone could alert you in case of some emergency.<br />
* '''Codeword-SMS''' An expansion of the above: check for code words and allow selectable tones for matches. E.g. "Server Down!" has a loud klaxon, "Disk Warning" has a quiet chirp.<br />
* '''(De-)Abreviation-script''' Implement a script that de-abbreviates: "hi m8 u k?-sry i 4gt 2 cal u lst nyt-y dnt we go c film 2moz" becomes "Hi mate. Are you okay? I am sorry that I forgot to call you last night. Why don't we go and see a film tomorrow?" (taken from: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_language])<br />
** Implement a script that abbreviates :-)<br />
* '''Anti-Spam''' ...feature for SMS. May be it's possible to port some Bayesian based application like bogofilter.<br />
* '''Rule based authorizations''' ...for received messages. For example, delete messages from one source between 9h00 and 18h00 (workday) allow them otherwise (to get alerting messages).<br />
* '''Enable chat-like SMS-viewing''' SMS-Email-like: retain SMS app, but store 'conversations' rather than pile-up. Group/archive conversations by Caller Group (Work / Friends / Home / any user-defined Caller Group). Show appropriate icon from either Caller Group or Caller ID at the source of conversations panel<br />
* '''Searching''' allow full-text search or string search.<br />
* '''Massive SMS Deletion''' based on Conversation, author, before-date-xx.xx.xxxx, caller group, [[Wishlist:Tagging|tags]]...<br />
* '''Call Back''' Prompt 'Call Back' alongside other first-line options (Delete, Save number,.. this kind of options) that appear when reading an SMS.<br />
* '''Non-destructive deletion''', deleted messages goes to trash, and are recoverable.<br />
* '''SMS-EMail-Gateway'''<br />
SMS comes in, gets forward to your inbox, like any other piece of mail. Appropriate alerts and etc occur - again, just like for email. A simple SMTPD running on 127.0.0.1 that is hooked to an email-to-SMS translator that will send email addressed to 'SMS@localhost' (or whatever special address) out via SMS<br />
* '''SMS-filter chain''', for stuff like Codeword-SMS above, Theft-mode activation, auto-response (reply with gsm-position for "Where are you?"), auto-substitution (like replace $POS with gsm-position in outgoing SMS).<br />
<br />
=== Text input ===<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Text Input}}<br />
There are many good suggestions for text input on the specific text input ideas page.<br />
<br />
=== More/Custom Input Method Widgets ===<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:More/Custom_Input_Method_Widgets}}<br />
Additional and customizable Input Method Widgets (similar to virtual keyboard). <br />
This could add soft-key functionality to games or other applications such as:<br />
*D-Pads<br />
*buttons<br />
*virtual trackballs<br />
*...<br />
Personalized layouts could be associated with each application.<br />
<br />
=== Games ===<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Games}}<br />
<br />
=== Mesh Networking ===<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Mesh Networking}}<br />
<br />
=== Printing Support ===<br />
It would be really neat to be able to print over either bluetooth or USB. I can imagine wanting to print:<br />
<br />
* Notes<br />
* Maps<br />
* Email<br />
* Calendars<br />
* ...<br />
<br />
Cups contains a bluetooth printing backend, so (in theory) once you have your data in postscript format, you could hand it to cups and it'll do the rest. In practice, it depends on<br />
<br />
# GTK+'s printing support<br />
# Making cups run on a really small system<br />
<br />
{{note| GTK+'s printing support seems to be very immature in 2.6 (which we need to use for some time). Gtk+ 2.10 contains much better printing support -- once we can use this, it should be more easy.}}<br />
<br />
There's always the possibility to render postscript ourselves, but this is not a piece of cake -- in general, printing is much harder than one would imagine.<br />
<br />
Further details:<br />
* [http://groups.osdl.org/apps/group_public/download.php/2205/print-summit-gtk.pdf#search=%22gtk%2B%20printing%20API%22 osdl.org]<br />
* [http://www.gnome.org/~alexl/presentations/guadec2006-printing.pdf#search=%22gtk%2B%20printing%20API%22 gnome.org]<br />
* [http://www.j5live.com/?p=204 j5live.com]<br />
<br />
===Misc Software===<br />
====Clocks/timers/Activity meters====<br />
===== Sport tracker =====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Sport_tracker}}<br />
Sport tracker can be used to measure the distance/velocity from point A to point B (or it could have several intermediate stopping points) using GPS. This would be extremely useful for running, biking, hiking, etc.<br />
<br />
===== Standby clock =====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Standby_clock}}<br />
A quick way to see what time it is.<br />
<br />
===== Egg Timer =====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:EggTimer}}<br />
<br />
Very simple (one click) count up / count down timers are very useful.<br />
<br />
===== Cycle Computer =====<br />
As already mentioned by [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Technil Technil], a cycle computer could be created using gps. The sensor at the bike's wheel could transmit data via bluetooth or some cable that would be attached to an openmoko device. In order to save power, one could switch off the gps and only use the bike's sensor.<br />
* Just another idea that came to me: Why don't have sensor's transmit cable plug into the headphone/microphone plug? A tool reads the signals created by the induction of the passing magnet, then gives them to the cycle-computer-app :) --[[User:Minime|Minime]] 19:50, 12 April 2007 (CEST)<br />
<br />
===== NTP Server =====<br />
<br />
Run the [http://www.ntp.org NTP] daemon using the GPS chipset as a reference clock, so that the Neo would have a very accurate time-of-day clock and would be able to serve time to other networked devices. <br />
<br />
I don't know what it would take to implement this. Items to consider would be the availability of a 1 pulse-per-second hardware signal, the accuracy of timestamps delivered in NMEA messags, etc. Dealing with power-management issues (such as the device going to sleep) would also be challenging.<br />
<br />
Very simple (one click) count up / count down timers are very useful.<br />
<br />
===== Reality check reminder =====<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Reality check reminder}}<br />
<br />
A tool to [http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=64&id=16 hack your brain]<br />
<br />
====Calculators====<br />
===== A Universal Unit Converter Tool =====<br />
<br />
One never knows when one may have to convert acre-feet into deciliters. A unit conversion tool makes all engineers and engineer wannabes much happier. And not only the engineers. <br />
<br />
Ideas what kind of conversions a converter tool could do:<br />
<br />
Lenght<br />
- Acceleration<br />
- Angle<br />
- Angular Velocity<br />
- Area<br />
- Capacitance<br />
- Radioactivity<br />
- Currency <br />
- Charge<br />
- Computer Memory<br />
- Conductance<br />
- Density<br />
- Energy<br />
- Illumination<br />
- Power<br />
- Force <br />
- Flow<br />
- Pressure<br />
- Speed<br />
- Temperature<br />
- Time<br />
- Torque<br />
- Viscosity<br />
- Volume<br />
- Weight<br />
<br />
Roman Numerals<br />
- ASCII, Hex<br />
- Cooking<br />
- BMI<br />
- Clothing Sizes<br />
<br />
Physical and Mathematical Constants<br />
GPS conversions <br />
<br />
- link to or integration of a scientific calculator<br />
- link to or integration of a simple calculator<br />
<br />
A good basis for such a converter tool could be the Palm program "units" from <br />
François Pessaux [http://francois.pessaux.neuf.fr/files/units1_11.tgz]. The GPL'd program comes with full documentation.<br />
<br />
For GPS conversions see gpsbabel [http://www.gpsbabel.org]<br />
<br />
===== An Postfix Notation (RPN) calculator =====<br />
<br />
Many engineers, computer scientists and other groups who have grown to enjoy the simplicity and ease of an postfix notation calculator will miss them when they give up other platforms to move to OpenMoko. A RPN calculator will increase adoption by providing one of the tools that other platforms have provided for many years.<br />
<br />
==== Web-browser Plugins ====<br />
<br />
* While an extensive browser plugin system would be costly to the efficacy of the platform three particular browser plugins as poplularized by Mozilla firefox should be adapted to the web-browser, namely: [http://noscript.net/ noscript], [http://adblockplus.org/en/ adblock plus], [http://www.greasespot.net/ greasemonkey] and [http://www.foxmarks.com/ foxmarks].<br />
* Careful use of these can dramatically reduce bandwidth, page space, and rendering costs even if it comes at the risk of some hard drive space in the form of block lists.<br />
* Greasemonkey, in particular, gives users control to set up scripts for commonly traveled pages to further reduce unnecessary or unwanted content.<br />
<br />
==== Windows CE Emulator ====<br />
<br />
On ARM machine, Windows CE API emulator, like Wine on x86 machines. <br />
<br />
==== PalmOS Emulator ====<br />
<br />
The Access group is probably coming out with their Linux platform any time soon. One of the components is a PalmOS emulator which I'd like to see working on OpenMoko as well. There are literally thousands of PalmOS apps.<br />
<br />
I'd like to see a Windows CE Emulator with active sync support.<br />
<br />
==== TV Guide/Remote Control ====<br />
<br />
Use your Phone to easily program your VCR using EPGs.<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Alcohol meter ====<br />
Give the phone some info about your body (gender, size, weigth) and when/what you drink and it will compute an approximation of the amount of alcohol in your blood. Updates automatically, could have an alarm, when you are probably sober again.<br />
See, for example (German text) http://www.misterio-online.de/promille.htm<br />
<br />
==== Interaction with LEGO Mindstorm ====<br />
With the accelerometers, GPS and good CPU, the phone could be used to control/serve as input with robots built with LEGO Mindstorm, which can be accessed by USB and Bluetooth.<br />
<br />
==== Flashlight ====<br />
Simple finger application that makes every pixel on the entire screen white to be as bright as possible until you tap the screen again to turn it off. This way, you can use your Neo as a (short term) flashlight!<br />
<br />
=== Accessibility ===<br />
Accessibility features for the visually impaired.<br />
* High Contrast Themes.<br />
* Screen Magnifier. Features should include automatic cursor tracking when navigating menus and entereing text and provide manual controls to zoom in on other section of the screen.<br />
* Text to speech. The software should read out menu item ,contact lists ,text messages etc. Would also be useful for operating the phone while driving.<br />
<br />
==== VOIP ====<br />
Ability to use the phone for VOIP over wi-fi such as Vonage. They currently have 2 different pieces of software for pc . Basically software creates a mac address which is paired with your Vonage account. Skype could also be implemented but I prefer Vonage. Only available when connected to wi-fi with a good connection. Phone treats calls the same as a cellular call, could keep a separate log of minutes, ability to record conversations, etc. Option to use VOIP if connection is available automaticly or manually. Small icon to show when call is using VOIP.<br />
* A standard SIP client would probably fit better into the "free and open" philosophy.<br />
* Ideally a SIP client that includes ZRTP/SRTP for secure communications.<br />
<br />
==== Power Meter ====<br />
If the power bar is clicked on it will show time left on charge and if charging it will show time until full.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Accelerometer wishes ===<br />
==== Flick interface ====<br />
Ability to "flick" the phone for page up/down by simply and rapidly tilting the phone back-and-forth for up and forth-and-back for down. The same motion can be implemented for sideways motion. This will take advantage of the 2 3d accelerators.<br />
<br />
Sensitivity of the scrolling should be configurable and a test option provided.<br />
<br />
==== Reading navigation of documents enhanced by accelerometers ====<br />
If the two accelerometers in Neo1973 allows it, it will be nice if when you're reading, give a newspaper, you can move up, down, left and to the right the viewing of the document just moving the phones to the corresponding direction.<br />
<br />
I don't know if this is possible (haven't seen the project in detail yet) but this feature could be very attractive for final users (and this is good). (sorry for my english but i'm italian)<br />
<br />
==== Wand UI ====<br />
In keeping with the requests to think outside of the box... the dual 3d accelerometers should enable a 'magic wand'-style UI for certain uses. Macros could be recorded and edited, or presets could be used. For example, flipping the device playfully could initiate a game mode or could signal the end of the work day.<br />
<br />
==== Shake-to-Wake ====<br />
Giving the phone a shake enables voice commands for a few seconds.<br />
Usage Examples: <br />
<br />
{Shake} "Call" ''ContactName'' ''PhoneType'' --- {Shake} "Call John Mobile" (Calls John's mobile)<br />
<br />
{Shake} ''ApplicationName'' --- {Shake} "Reader" (Opens the e-book application)<br />
<br />
Would require a method of inputting voice tags for applications and contacts and obviously will only work for P2 (accelerometers)<br />
But lets get voice command functionality working before P2 (just by pressing a button on the screen instead of shaking)<br />
<br />
I think that is possibly to replace "Shake" with double hit with finger in the side of phone. Proper algorithms(with accelerometers) should recognize any similar activities.<br />
<br />
==== Emergency call ====<br />
When the accelerometer detects a great acceleration (i.e. 5G) start a countdown sequence, if it is not stopped make a call to a preconfigured emergency number. If the data from the GPS is accurate give it.<br />
<br />
A first version could use a recorded message (an audio file). In next version it could use a synthesizer, so it can give more information (add GPS information when it is ready).<br />
<br />
==== Movement detection ====<br />
By detecting that the owner is walking a user defined profile can be activated with a specific set of notification settings. For example you may wish to use a cheap old sounding ringtone so you don't attract attention from muggers. Or you may wish to have a louder ringtone if you carry your phone in a bag where it can't be so easily heard.<br />
<br />
==== Others ====<br />
Also see the pages[[Wishlist:Auto Align Map]], [[Wishlist:Determine Position]], [[Distance Measuring]], [[Wishlist:Computer Mouse]], [[Wishlist:Dynamic Screen Orientation]].<br />
<br />
=== Connectivity ===<br />
<br />
==== VNC client ====<br />
A good, stylus friendly VNC client/host combo would be easy to add and terribly useful.<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Networked X-Windows ====<br />
<br />
Whether it's running true X-Windowing over the network, or your bog-standard VNC connection as mentioned above, the ability to have your phone's screen available on your laptop or palmtop would be most desirable.<br />
<br />
==== NX client ====<br />
<br />
A form of X-windows forwarding optimized for performance over slow, or high-latency links, which could prove extremely useful. Capable of streaming a good quality, full desktop session over modem speeds. The protocol and at least one implementation is gpl'd. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_technology wikipedia]<br />
<br />
=== Security ===<br />
<br />
==== My Account ====<br />
{{Main|My Account}}<br />
A way to securely store information about the phone, and ensure that a phone you may be considering purchasing is not stolen.<br />
<br />
==== [http://zfoneproject.com/ Zfone] or similar ====<br />
<br />
Something that allows the user to speak with another person securely.<br />
<br />
==== GSM Encryption ====<br />
<br />
This software application would allow GSM encrypted calls to be made using the GSM Data Call Channel. <br />
<br />
[[OSvS]]<br />
<br />
==== My Voice is my Passport ====<br />
Use voice recognition to unlock the phone. "Hi. My name is ... My voice is my passport. Verify me."<br />
<br />
==== Firewall ====<br />
A network firewall<br />
<br />
==== Anti Theft Application ====<br />
<br />
This application would enter the phone into an [[Anti-Theft Mode]] which activates particular security features to reduce the risk of theft and also to ensure a higher probability of recovery of a stolen handset.<br />
<br />
====RFID based personal alerts====<br />
Assuming an RFID reader is available: You'd put an RFID tag on your keys, wallet, etc and train a program on the phone to give you a soft or hard alert when one of them leaves detection range. That way, if you're walking away from one of them, the phone could alert you.<br />
<br />
=== Integrated Help System ===<br />
<br />
A help system that is either on or off. It could be activated and deactivated by a [[five-second-press]] on a button, for example the AUX button. When the help system is activated, it will explain the use of any item you touch on screen (with stylus or finger). Example: if you touch the battery icon, it will explain that this shows battery level / remaining time. If you touch the date / time icon, it will explain that this icon shows date and time, and that if you press it, you can set date and time. Primarily, this help system should be able to explain all user interface elements in the main screen, but if it proves popular, it could be expanded to cover other applications as well.<br />
<br />
===Performance optimisation===<br />
==== Use DMA engine in CPU for blitter ====<br />
The DMA engine in the CPU can substantially speed up moving of large areas of screen in some cases.<br />
<br />
==== Use virtual screen to optimise scrolling ====<br />
In some other cases, the hardware supported virtual screen may also speed it up.<br />
<br />
==Bluetooth==<br />
<br />
=== Voice Dialing ===<br />
<br />
Dial by voice commands.<br />
<br>Dial by dictating phone number. This way we can voice dial any number even if not in our contact list.<br />
<br />
=== Music through Bluetooth Headset ===<br />
<br />
Music can be played through a Bluetooth headset, but would stop playing when a call comes in.<br />
<br />
=== Walkie Talkie ===<br />
<br />
Let OpenMoko devices connect to one another via bluetooth or another connection method (GPRS for long distance but high latency, probably Wifi on P2), and hold a conversation.<br />
<br />
Features for this applications can be:<br />
* Push To Talk (PTT) button<br />
* Voice Activated Control (VAC) which will set it in transmit mode when input has is detected above a certain predefined level.<br />
* Optionally a full duplex mode<br />
* Different channels to choose from<br />
* Monitor different (preselected or all) channels for traffic.<br />
* Content encryption<br />
* Active noise control<br />
* Allow zero config use (units can talk without any access point helping)<br />
<br />
Local (non-GPRS) use cases include chatting while biking<br />
or motorcycling in a group; perhaps also in a car caravan.<br />
This application could also be used as a baby-phone to monitor your siblings.<br />
<br />
This would be more useful if the Neo had Class 1 bluetooth, though probable Wifi on P2 will also offer more range.<br />
<br />
=== Automatic Sync ===<br />
<br />
Automatically synchronize with desktop computer (or with any [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyncML SyncML] server) when within range based on user profile. This may require the use of a secure data transfer.<br />
<br />
=== GPS Assisted Bluetooth Management ===<br />
<br />
Allow Bluetooth to automatically turn off after loosing connectivity and to automatically turn back on based upon GPS location.<br />
<br />
A Bluetooth device is configured for automatic reacquisition based on the following profiles:<br />
* Manual - only when Bluetooth is on<br />
* Non-mobile - the target device is not mobile, periodically attempt reacquisition when in the general area of the device.<br />
* Mobile - the target device is mobile, periodically attempt reacquisition when in the general area of the device.<br />
<br />
Each target device is configured as follows:<br />
* Automatic acquisition at last known location: enable/disable<br />
* Automatic acquisition at these locations: list of nickname + coordinates + range<br />
<br />
==== Non-mobile devices ====<br />
<br />
Examples devices include: computers<br />
<br />
The location and range of the target device is determined via training. Periodically, the current GPS coordinates and Bluetooth signal strength are logged. Additionally, connectivity loss events are logged. An algorithm uses these logs to determine the device location and range.<br />
<br />
Connection attempts are made when in a configurable proximity to the device. The first attempt when entering the proximity and further attempts at a configurable interval.<br />
<br />
==== Mobile devices ====<br />
<br />
Example devices include: automobiles<br />
<br />
Mobile devices are configured to have two types of locations:<br />
# Last known location<br />
# Non-mobile locations (homes)<br />
<br />
===== Last known location =====<br />
<br />
A car is mobile, ideally, when you leave your car, the phone should note the car's location when connectivity is lost and then attempt to reacquire the car when you return to the location of the car.<br />
<br />
===== Non-mobile locations (homes) =====<br />
<br />
As mobile devices may have multiple users, it is not sufficient to always use the last known location. In this case, the device may additionally have multiple homes. For example, a car might have as its homes: home garage and work parking lot.<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth neighbor detection and multiuser apps ===<br />
<br />
Like the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_laptop_per_child one laptop per child] (OLPC) interface, keep a number in the status bar that represents a count of other openmoko or compatible bluetooth devices in the area. Allow for the spontaneous initiation of a chatroom or multiplayer game or file trading with any moko in the area.<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth environment detection ===<br />
<br />
Capability to detect when a predetermined bt device enters/leaves bt range and launch a system-wide event accordingly. This would feed not only the "Neighbour detection" idea described above, but also the "Profiles", "Context based TO-DO list" and "Location-based reminders" ideas. Reminders could be set to trigger in the presence of a specific person X (with BT device Y). Profiles can take into account which devices are present around the phone (car kit, for ex.). To-do list could also change according to present devices.<br />
<br />
=== Remote control ===<br />
<br />
==== Wireless presenter ====<br />
Use the phone to run your OpenOffice.org Impress presentation remotely using Bluetooth. Cool features: <br />
* Display the text notes for the presenter on the phone's display and update it whenever the slide is changing.<br />
** OO.org has implemented support for [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=12719 dual monitor]/[http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=18486 presenter mode] that can be used as a starting point<br />
* A small timer showing the time passed (and perhaps remaining if the presentation app supports such a feature). <br />
* If you want to be super-cool, you give a preview of the notes of the next slide in the show. <br />
* At the end of a presentation, a "navigator" could allow to easily jump to any slide in the presentation by clicking on it on the phone.<br />
** When you right-click in a running OO.org Impress presentation, you can choose "got o slide..." and select any slide to jump to.<br />
<br />
==== Initiated from another device ====<br />
Remote control over Bluetooth from other devices to control media player (play, pause, next, previous, volume control), camera (capture image), etc.<br />
==== Directed at another device ====<br />
Remote control over Bluetooth to other devices to control media player, lights in your house, etc.<br />
<br />
Z-wave uses web-browser control of devices that is said to be compatible with mobile phone browsers so should work with openmoko browser. [http://www.z-wave.com www.z-wave.com]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth Car Connection ===<br />
<br />
Have a deeper connection to the car than just handsfree speakerphone. For instance a transceiver with challenge/response systems to open, possibly even start the car. Possibly go as far as OBD connection to monitor car status on screen/log for later.<br />
<br />
==== Dude, Where's My Car? ====<br />
<br />
When in range of the car navigation system, remember the position (perhaps check with the car GPS). When not in range, assumme that you are not in the car, and offer the opportunity to navigate to the car's last known position. That way, you can find your car e.g. on a large parking lot.<br />
<br />
=== [[Bluetooth powered Multi-SIM support]] ===<br />
<br />
As the Neo1971 does not come with dual-SIM support this could be solved by joining your old bluetooth-enabled mobile to your OpenMoko-phone.<br />
<br />
Let SIM card A be in your OpenMoko-phone and SIM card B in your old mobile:<br />
* Incoming call on SIM card B - the OpenMoko-phone acts as a headset(Bluetooth Headset profile)<br />
* Calling out via SIM card B - the OpenMoko-phone acts again as a headset<br />
* Same for Short Messages/MMS/Internet<br />
This way you'd have your old phone switched silent and connected to your OpenMoko-phone that handles all the calls and one can select which SIM card to use.<br />
Advantage: No 'switching' between cards<br />
Disadvantage: Second mobile needs to be in range(e.g. handbag) and charged every once in a while.<br />
<br />
===Internet Gateway===<br />
<br />
If the device could function as a Bluetooth router/gateway to the internet via the GPRS/data connector, then you could use it to get network connectivity from your laptop and other devices while on the road. Many smartphones can be configured as modems via Bluetooth for use as Dial-Up Networking connectors, and that should be the minimum target. Ideally, if the WiFi functionality was used so the OpenMoko could be an 802.11 router or peer to peer gateway for a laptop, this would be even better. The full bandwidth of GPRS or whatever network is available would then be available.<br />
<br />
=== Social Networking ===<br />
<br />
Anybody running the social networking app will be broadcasting a profile, and when certain keywords are matched with other users who are also running the application, an alert is sounded. Each mokoid can be added as a hexstring to a profile page, and xml filters can be developed for each social service to convert various keywords and interests to moko-friendly format.<br />
<br />
=== Give userspace api control over bluetooth signal strength ===<br />
<br />
I have tried bluetooth handsfree sets with other phones and don't get perfect reception due to low signal strength. I suppose the reason the signal is so weak is because the manufacturer wants the battery to last long on its latest charge. Can you please make the strength setting configurable by the user of the phone through an api and perhaps even through the phones gui? I would gladly waste some battery time in exchange for stronger bluetooth signal strength.<br />
<br />
== Other ==<br />
<br />
=== Vibrate Pattern Recorder ===<br />
<br />
An application that would allow the user to define their own vibration patterns, and possibly link them to audio files. Recording would be done in real time initiated with a "Record" button, optionally playing the associated sound file in sync with recording). While recording, the user would press and hold a button to define the timing and duration of vibration. The user would press "Stop" when finished. Vibration patterns would have the option of being looped(would terminate at some global ringtone length maximum).<br />
<br />
One simple suggested vibration file format would be a sort of run-length encoding: First byte defines the length of a "time-slice" in milliseconds, which would determine the overall tempo(actually the inverse of tempo). The next byte would define the number of time-slices to leave the vibration on, and then another byte for how long to pause after. Continue alternating these on/off bytes until the entire pattern is defined.<br />
<br />
- or just use MIDI, using a separate channel for the vibrator.<br />
<br />
An implementation of RTTL could also be used to define vibration patterns.<br />
<br />
=== PC Input Device ===<br />
<br />
Provide a method to use the touchscreen as input device for a nearby desktop machine. Could connect over USB or bluetooth.<br />
<br />
=== Advanced Notification And Ringtone Manager ===<br />
{{Main|Wishlist-ANARM}}<br />
<br />
ANARM would be an application for handling all event-based audible notifications from an OpenMoko device.<br />
<br />
=== Location based reminders ===<br />
{{Main|Wishlist:Location_based_reminders}}<br />
Location based reminders can be used to notify users of various events or reminders that are location based.<br />
<br />
=== Synergy Client ===<br />
A synergy client would enable the user to place the device next to a desktop PC and share the desktop`s mouse, keyboard and clipboard over a TCP/IP network. [http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ Synergy]<br />
<br />
== GPS Software ==<br />
*Providing GPS Support also for outdoor users in addition to ordinary street navigation features<br />
** Overlay of satellite images with existing streetmaps<br />
** Incorporating SRTM digital elevation model: for example using the VRML/X3D as data format (see http://www.ai.sri.com/geovrml/) which is interesting for e.g. mountaineering: using a 3d browser rendering VRML/X3D Model, displaying the current position and track (possibly also other gps-tracks of the different routes to a summit downloaded before could be mapped onto the 3d model), (what about 3d hardware support? there is nothing written in the hardware specs about graphics: thinking of OpenGL for embedded systems (see http://www.khronos.org/opengles/)<br />
** Using sth like a tracking mode to allow certain people to determine the current position and track (for rescue missions - like they have for example at http://www.steiger-stiftung.de (a German beneficence for rescue issues) There you can register your mobile phone so the rescue service is able to track you immediately if necessary. The interesting thing: It seams like some mobile phones with GPS have special support for this issue. If your phone is registered, the rescue service is able to get your GPS coordinates directly from the phone without any user assistance. Openmoko should also support this! )<br />
* Implementation of 3dTracking's (http://free.3dtracking.net/) tracking software or equivalent.<br />
<br />
<br>[[Community Based Traffic Information]]<br />
<br />
== Hardware ==<br />
{{Main|Wish List - Hardware}}<br />
<br />
It could be use for beepway Online service too <br />
[http://www.beepway.com]<br />
<br />
=== Tactile feedback via buzzer ===<br />
Assuming the hardware has a vibrator/buzzer for silent calls, use a lightly pulsed version of that to simulate tactile feedback when dragging finger across buttons on-screen. Implemented properly, it would almost feel as if the buttons were real.<br />
<br />
=== Detachable keyboard ===<br />
Hardware keyboard that can be attached with magnets to a future version of the Neo.<br />
<br />
=== IR port ===<br />
Remote control applications<br />
Would be great to use openmoko as a Hamony remote controller.<br />
<br />
[[Category:User]]<br />
[[Category:Ideas| ]]</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22007-08-24T20:59:14Z<p>Techiem2: /* My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973 */</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@gmail.com techiem2@gmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Audiovox Snapper<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' Virgin Mobile Prepaid ($5.30/month with taxes charged every 90 days, $.18/min - I don't use my phone much)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I don't know if I would use it as a cell phone or not.<br />
<br />
There's only one GSM provider in my area (Cellular One) who apparently is probably being acquired by AT&T.<br />
<br />
AT&T and T-Mobile both look like their networks cover here, but they don't offer service here (I wonder if that would change if the AT&T/Cellular One buyout goes through...).<br />
<br />
====Document Reader====<br />
I would like to use it as a document reader as well.<br />
<br />
Primarily for PDF and TXT, but of course other formats (ODF?) would be great.<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22007-08-24T20:46:49Z<p>Techiem2: /* About Me */</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
Web Site: http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@gmail.com techiem2@gmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Audiovox Snapper<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' Virgin Mobile Prepaid ($5.30/month with taxes charged every 90 days, $.18/min - I don't use my phone much)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I don't know if I would use it as a cell phone or not.<br />
<br />
There's only one GSM provider in my area (Cellular One) who apparently is probably being acquired by AT&T.<br />
<br />
AT&T and T-Mobile both look like their networks cover here, but they don't offer service here (I wonder if that would change if the AT&T/Cellular One buyout goes through...).<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22007-08-24T20:46:22Z<p>Techiem2: </p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
Email: [mailto:techiem2@gmail.com techiem2@gmail.com]<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Audiovox Snapper<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' Virgin Mobile Prepaid ($5.30/month with taxes charged every 90 days, $.18/min - I don't use my phone much)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I don't know if I would use it as a cell phone or not.<br />
<br />
There's only one GSM provider in my area (Cellular One) who apparently is probably being acquired by AT&T.<br />
<br />
AT&T and T-Mobile both look like their networks cover here, but they don't offer service here (I wonder if that would change if the AT&T/Cellular One buyout goes through...).<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Techiem2User:Techiem22007-08-24T20:45:21Z<p>Techiem2: made email linky</p>
<hr />
<div>==About Me==<br />
I live in DuBois, PA.<br />
<br />
I'm currently working part time as the Assistant to the CTO at [http://www.dbcollege.com DuBois Business College].<br />
<br />
I'm a Gentoo geek.<br />
<br />
Mark Montgomery II<br />
<br />
http://www.techiem2.net<br />
<br />
mailto:techiem2@gmail.com<br />
<br />
==My Portable Stuff==<br />
*'''Work Laptop:''' Compaq V5101US dual booting Gentoo and Windows XP (that I rarely need to use fortunately)<br />
*'''Cell Phone:''' Audiovox Snapper<br />
*'''Cell Provider:''' Virgin Mobile Prepaid ($5.30/month with taxes charged every 90 days, $.18/min - I don't use my phone much)<br />
*'''Media Player:''' Cowon iAudio X5 dual booting RockBox and original firmware (that I rarely use since RockBox is just plain awesome)<br />
*'''GPS:''' Garmin Etrex<br />
*'''WiFi Scanner:''' Zyxel AG-225H WiFi Scanner/USB Adapter (uses the zd1211 driver) - I also use this as my WNIC for my laptop most of the time since the internal antenna doesn't see the AP very reliably from my desk in the corner.<br />
<br />
==My Interest in OpenMoko/Neo1973==<br />
====General====<br />
I think FLOSS should be used wherever possible and I love the idea of a fully open phone.<br />
<br />
I don't appreciate companies that use FLOSS in their devices yet restrict the user from doing anything, thus showing a lack of respect for the community and philosophies of the software they are profiting from.<br />
<br />
====Web Device====<br />
I have recently started looking into WiFi web devices, and the Neo1973 Phase2 should be perfect (assuming WiFi is fully up and running for it).<br />
<br />
====SIP Phone====<br />
I want to use it as a WiFi SIP phone as soon as there's a client written for it (the idea of using it as a SIP handset for the computer is interesting to me as well). :)<br />
<br />
====GPS====<br />
Assuming a good interface is made for it, it should make a much nicer (not to mention just plain cooler) GPS device than my old Etrex.<br />
<br />
My ideal would be a program with multiple tabs/pages with varying info.<br />
*Map/Driving directions page.<br />
*GPS info page - current coordinates and elevation and such.<br />
*Movement info page - current heading and speed and such.<br />
*More?<br />
Maybe configurable to be able to set how many pages and what is on each page?<br />
<br />
====Wireless Network Analysis====<br />
Wardriving/Warwalking! (or just plain Wireless LAN mapping/troubleshooting in general)<br />
<br />
(Come on, admit that you've all been thinking the same thing!)<br />
<br />
Since it's running a good WiFi chipset and gpsd already, I'm assuming it would be trivial for someone in the know to port kismet to it.<br />
<br />
And of course make sure it works with gpsd and the GPS interface program.<br />
<br />
No more driving/walking around with a laptop and GPS for wardriving/warwalking or testing out your corporate WLAN - Just fire up your Neo1973 and go!<br />
<br />
====Cell Phone====<br />
I don't know if I would use it as a cell phone or not.<br />
<br />
There's only one GSM provider in my area (Cellular One) who apparently is probably being acquired by AT&T.<br />
<br />
AT&T and T-Mobile both look like their networks cover here, but they don't offer service here (I wonder if that would change if the AT&T/Cellular One buyout goes through...).<br />
<br />
====Media Player====<br />
If the quality is good, I might consider using it as a media player (ogg of course!) if I can get a nice big card for it.<br />
<br />
My OGG collection is a bit under 4GB as I recall.</div>Techiem2http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Techiem2User talk:Techiem22007-08-24T20:25:57Z<p>Techiem2: made the page</p>
<hr />
<div>Let the insanity begin!</div>Techiem2