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Group sales

2008-06-30T13:52:43Z

KlaymenDK: /* Copenhagen */

Openmoko have announced a scheme to sell the forthcoming Neo Freerunner at a discount if bought in multiples of 10 (US$369, instead of 399), to be shipped in one package. Group buying will thus save money on the purchase, and on the shipping. This page is to to organise group purchases by region.

For calculating shipping costs, the dimensions of one 10-pack is 435mm x 371mm x 119mm. The weight should be around 3kg.

Steve from Openmoko announced "Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets."
So join us within a local group !

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== [[Group Sales Australia| Australia ]]==

== Austria ==
There is a group-buy page at MetaLab, available here: http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko .. we almost have the full 10 slots assigned, and its quite possible that we will order *20* phones, so please register on the Metalab pages and let us know if you're interested ..

=== Salzburg ===
Status: 1/10

* D. Kepplinger (at MetaLab)

=== Wien ===
Status: 2/10
* M. Greifeneder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mikegr Contact me here]
* J. Vaughan (torpor) -- http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/torpor Contact me here]

=== Styria ===
==== Graz ====
Group 1: Status: 10/10

* F Hackenberger [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Deadman66 Contact me here]
* J Florineth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Flojoh Contact me here]
* G Michelitsch [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/graf_ithaka Contact me here]
* M Lipp [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Neldoreth Contact me here]
* M Maier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/species Contact me here]
* M Konrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/konni Contact me here]
* K Krammer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krake Contact me here]
* M Prokop [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mika Contact me here]
* C Lauermann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cms Contact me here]
* S Simmer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/StefanS Contact me here]

Group 2: Status: 3/10
* K Holler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kho Contact me here]
* St Stampler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/stst Contact me here]
* D Pail [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/neotracker Contact me here]

== Belgium ==
=== Brussels ===
Status 5/10
* npettiaux [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Npettiaux Contact me here]
* jwarnier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jwarnier Contact me here]
* mvanderdonck [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nicodache Contact me here]
* lpirotte [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lpirotte Contact me here]
* Ciaran [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ciaran Contact me here]

=== Flanders ===
==== Aalst/Aarschot/Gent/Brugge ====
Status 7/10
* XVens, mailto: xavier DOT vens AT gmail DOT com
* Arno85, mailto: aaron DOT helin AT gmail DOT com, Kortrijk

* Yvo Brasseur, mailto: yvo_brasseur AT archon DOT be Living in Aarschot, working in Brussels.
* Emmanuel Mathot, mailto: aiieeee DOT gmail DOT com, Brussels
* Kamil Kubacki, mailto: kamil DOT kubacki AT gmail DOT com [or kamil.kubacki@gmail.com]
* 2x Hans Vanpée, mailto: hans AT vanpee DOT be

ps: Dolfje think it will be cheaper to buy it from pulster.de. Can anyone confirm?

Confirmation: From Pulster.eu:

Our sales price is 299 EUR. The idea of "open" is ours. So check our price calculation: if you order the Freerunner from Taiwan, it's 399 USD + 100 USD shipping + c. 90 USD "import taxes" inside Europe. Total 589 USD = c.380 EUR.

So it will be cheaper and we Europeans have 2 years of warranty when buying from Pulster, instead of a 14 days(?) for imported goods.
You can read all advantages on pulster.eu

==== Antwerp ====
Status 11/10

* michielv [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Michielv Contact me here]
* Peter N [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubsy Contact me here]
* Ivo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ivo Contact me here]
* Peter Leemans, mailto: peter AT x-tend DOT be
* Richard B [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/richardb Contact me here]
* Jeroen Van Goey [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BioGeek Contact me here]
* Jeroen D [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jeroendoggen Contact me here]
* Diego Garcia, mailto: didac.garcia AT gmail DOT com
* Sam Geeraerts (Laakdal) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Samgee Contact me here]
* Stefaan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Stefaan Contact me here]
* Bert_2 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bert_2 Contact me here] If they aren't cheaper via Pulster.

Status 1/10
* Jove [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jove Contact me here] I would like a developer board too.

Perhaps if we have a few more users, we can redistribute the groups geographically?

=== Wallonia ===
==== Walloon Brabant ====
Status: 1/10
* Istvan, mailto: buki DOT istvan AT gmail DOT com

== Bulgaria ==
=== Sofia ===
==== Sofia ====
Status : 7/10

* Dimitar Staykov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OpenMitko Contact]
* Vernim, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vernim Contact]
* Geo, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/geomer Contact]
* Iceman, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ice Contact], 30 May 2008
* jdivanov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jdivanov Contact], 16 June 2008
* luchoh, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/luchoh Contact], 26 June 2008
* nninov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nninov Contact], 26 June 2008

== Canada ==

=== British Columbia ===
Status : 10/10

* Justin (Vancouver): mailto: stryderjzw AT gmail
* Dave (Vancouver) Vancouver Linux users group (unconfirmed but about 7 so far): mailto: doc AT skynet REMOVE dot REMOVE ie

* Robert (Vancouver) - robtaylor <AT> tinsputnik <DOT> com (1 unit)
* Jeff (Vancouver) - jef dot jef gmail com

'''Group 2'''

Status: 5/10

* Ben Cadieux (Abbotsford & Vancouver) - ben [DOT] cadieux <AT> gmail [DOT] com
* Kelvie Wong (Vancouver, in Richmond) - kelvie (over at) ieee (period) org (one)
* Doug (Vancouver) - illusion65 at gmail (1 + debug)
* Morley (Victoria) - (Victoria). - morleyw@gmail.com
* Steven (Victoria) - If someone in the group will remail the package for me. mailto: skurylo --> gmail dot com

=== Alberta ===
Status : 10/10

* [[User:Wuth|Wuth]] : [mailto:wuth@acm.org]
* [[User:Slm3095om|stacy]] (2 units) : slm3095om AT millions dOt ca
* [[User:Abnormal|Morgan]] : [mailto:lightningperf@hotmail.com]
* [[User:picosrfr|Will]] : [mailto:will.siddall@gmail.com]
* [[User:Dewey|Dewey]] (Calgary) : [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dewey Contact me here]
* [[User:Shadowwolf|Vince]] (Red Deer) : 1 Unit + 1 Debug board [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Shadowwolf Get a hold of me here]
* [[User:Deanb2|Dean]] (Calgary) : [mailto:deanb@gbtn.net]
* [[User:jimb|jim b]] (Edmonton) : [mailto:callonjim@gmail.com][http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jimb mokomail]
* [[User:Crz|Steve]] (Calgary) : 1 unit, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crz Contact]

=== Ontario/Quebec ===
==== GTA (Toronto) ====
Status : 10/10

* Gerald A [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Historybuff Contact me here]
* MattC, mailto: quirkz AT gmail
* Sergey K, openmoko AT deeptown dOt org
* Daniel Lister, gmail(dan.lister)
* Ronnie Wong: '''3 units''' - r25wong AT ryerson dOT ca
* Paul V [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Roju Contact me here]
* Matt Manjos, matt (AT) manjos * com
* Steven O'Reilly, soreilly AT walled DOT net

Group 2 Status (Hamilton): 6/10

* Gabriel D - ace AT staticwave DOT ca
* Richard D - rtdegelder --> gmail.com
* Steve S - ssinger_pg AT sympatico dot ca
* Wolfram Kahl - kahl McMaster CA
* Paul Wouters - paul@xelerance.com '''1 units'''
* John Hurley - nybble at eml dot cc

Group 3 Status (Montréal): 2/10
* Patrick Hétu - patrick AT koumbit DOT org
* Eric Lebel - lebeleri AT aei DOT ca

== Chile ==
=== Santiago ===
Status : 4/10

* [[User:Mankeke]] Ricardo Manríquez C., mailto: ricardo.manriquez "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
* [[User:XKnightmareX]] Gonzalo Pesenti., mailto: mare.knight1 "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
* [[User:Freyes]] Felipe Reyes., mailto: felipereyes "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
* [[User:crsepulv]] Cristian Sepúlveda, mailto: sepulveda.cristian@gmail.com

== China ==
=== BeiJing ===
Status:10/10
*Luther mailto:lutherluo@qq.com 2 freerunner and 1 debug board.
*Gnosy mailto:gnosyhh@gmail.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.
*Bin Zong mailto:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com 1 Freerunner MSN:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com
*Lee zaixin mailto:shqlzx@126.com 1 Freerunner 
*Zhuwei mailto:grissom_zhu@139.com MSN:wyh0310@hotmail.com 1 Freerunner 
*zhaojun mailto:zhaojun1631@163.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug board
*Benoit Begue mailto:snk4ever@gmail.com 1 freerunner
*Tristan mailto:0x5478(at)gmail.com MSN:liu_bei_bei(at)hotmail.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.
*Lalo mailto:lalo.martins@gmail.com 1 freerunner
*Lu Kuo Email and MSN: koreylu#hotmail.com (substitute @ for # please) 1 freerunner and 1 debug board

Status:1/10
*Hong Zhiyi mailto: zhiyi.hong@gmail.com 1 freerunner

=== ShangHai ===
Status:3/10
 
* Pajda, info on my [[User:Pajda|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Pajda|contact me here]]. 1 x freerunner
* ChandleWEi mailto:chandle.wei@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board
* YxunLan mailto:dennis.yxun@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board

=== Guangzhou ===
Status:1/10
*Geoffrey mailto:dghfalcon@gmail.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug borad.

== Colombia ==
=== Bogotá ===
Status: 3/10
* Javier Rojas. Phone and debug board. mailto:jerojasro@gmail.com 
* Gustavo Andrés Angulo. Phone and debug board. mailto:woakas@gmail.com 
* Exell E. Franklin J. Phone and debug board. mailto:arawaco@ieee.org 

== Denmark ==
If we do not reach a total large enough, Denmark **is** a very small place - surely we could figure out a way of getting them to find their way 'round the country :)

=== Jutland ===
==== Aalborg ====
Status: 7/10

Should anyone need it, transportation from Aalborg to Thisted for phones can be arranged, if you don't want to pick it up in Aalborg yourself :) ~leinir

As it looks right now, it seems that it would be cheaper and easier for us to buy through Pulster in Germany - see the following email: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017778.html ~leinir

* Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen mailto:admin@leinir.dk [[User:Leinir]]
* Fabian Olesen mailto:firewalkerx@gmail.com
* Helge Willum Larsen mailto:helge.at.helges.dk
* Kristian Lindemann Larsen (2 stk) mailto:walker@pandia.dk
* Brian Olsen mailto:downloader@pandia.dk
* Henrik Odder Jensen mailto:herakles@pandia.dk

==== Aarhus ====
Status: 3/10

* Kent S. Knudsen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Forestmountain contact me here] - [[User:Forestmountain]] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)
* Lars Jensen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/el_senator contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)
* Martin Pedersen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cheeses contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)

==== Skjern ====
Status: 1/10

* [[User:Carlo]]

==== Sønderborg ====
Status: 1/10

* Theis Hjorth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Theis.hjorth contact me here] (1 phone + 1 devkit) 

=== Fyn ===
Status: 5/10
(Unnless others join Esben and Peter will join the Copenhagen order and Peter will pick up the phones for Fyn in Copenhagen)

* [[User:EsbenDamgaard]] (need 3 (Looney & Gert))
* [[User:apm]] (need 1 with invoice - can pick up in Copenhagen)
* [[User:LarsOPoulsen | Lars Poulsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LarsOPoulsen (contact)] (1 phone)

=== Sjælland ===
==== Copenhagen ====
Status: 35/10 (40 including the 5 for Fyn - see above)

* [[User:jrcarlsen | Johnny Rose Carlsen]] (+45) 28 14 60 04 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jrcarlsen (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:Fursund]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fursund (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:tabac | Thomas Ammitzbøll-Bach ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tabac (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:chel | Christian E. Lysel ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chel (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:UlrikRasmussen | Ulrik Rasmussen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/UlrikRasmussen (contact)] (1)
* [[User:OleTange | Ole Tange]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OleTange (contact)] (I need 14 with invoice)
* [[User:Pascal | Pascal d'Hermilly]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pascal (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice)
* [[User:maha | Martin Hansen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/maha (contact)] (3 with invoice)
* [[User:SvenneK | Svenne Krap ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/SvenneK (contact)] (1+devkit with invoice)
* [[User:bss | Bo Stendal Sørensen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bss (contact)] (1)
* [[User:Glenn | Glenn Møller-Holst]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Glenn (contact)] (2 freerunners + debug board, +invoice)
* [[User:knmeister | Kristian Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/knmeister (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice)
* [[User:hammerfar | Henrik Hammer Berthelsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hammerfar (contact)] (2 with invoice)
* [[User:Bubbi | Steen Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubbi (contact)] (2 with invoice)
* [[User:asbjorn | Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asbjorn (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice)
* [[User:KlaymenDK | Jan Gundtofte-Bruun]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KlaymenDK (contact)] -- will wait until software is stable enough to work as primary mobile phone

== Estonia ==
=== Tallinn ===
Let's see if we can get ten people together for this. I'm willing to organise the local distribution if we can. Spread the word and try to get more locals interested in it. [[User:Yogiz|Yogiz]] 08:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Status 2/10

* [[User:Yogiz | Yogiz]] ([mailto:yogizz@gmail.com contact]) 1 phone
* [[User:Zooter | Zooter]] ([mailto:zooter@hot.ee contact]) 1 phone

== Finland ==
=== Uusimaa ===
Note to gta02v6 waiting people:"The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT
LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption". So, no problem? Also a quote from [[Neo FreeRunner GTA02 Hardware#GTA02v6]]: "Capacitor and resistor change A6 also on mass production A5".

==== Helsinki I ====
Status : 9/10

* Mikko Rauhala x2 [mailto:mjr@iki.fi mjr@iki.fi]
* Aleksi Hankalahti [mailto:aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi]
* Seppo Hätönen [mailto:karrde@iki.fi karrde@iki.fi]
* Ville-Pekka Vainio vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi
* Heikki Hallamaa [mailto:heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi]
* Tomi Jylhä-Ollila tomi.jylha-ollila@helsinki.fi
* Richard Braakman
* Timo Jyrinki [mailto:timo.jyrinki@iki.fi timo.jyrinki@iki.fi]

==== Helsinki II, Turku & Vaasa====

[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Rhk DISCUSS HERE]

Tilauksen saa ottaa hoitaakseen kuka tahansa tilaajista, rhk ei ole ainakaan vielä sitoutunut hoitamaan!

Jos tätä & lapin tilausta ei saada täyteen voinee Lapin ryhmästä siirtyä osa tähän tilaukseen?

Status : 7/10

Helsinki:

* Risto H. Kurppa risto AT kurppa DOT fi
* Aapo Rantalainen aapo DOT rantalainen AT gmail DOT com
* Matti Laakso matti DOT laakso AT kotiposti DOT net
* Ilari Oras ilari DOT oras AT welho DOT com
* Jussi Kekkonen tmt AT ubuntu DOT com

Turku:

* Jaakko Lehtinen, jaakko dot lehtinen at gmail dot com

Vaasa:

* Mikko Niemikorpi, mikefulli ÄT gmail PISTE com

=== Lappi ===
==== Kemi ====
Status : 4/10

'''[[User:Cg|Discuss the order here]]'''

Kemi:
* Henri Valta henri PISTE valta ÄT kemi PISTE fi
* Tommi Juvonen tassi ÄT mediapumppu PISTE info
* Jaakko Pörhö ensteinfrank ÄT hotmail PISTE com
* Tuomo Mattila (Oulu) tuomom ÄT ee PISTE oulu PISTE fi

== France ==
=== Bretagne ===
==== Brest ====
Status : 1/10

* StevenLeRoux [mailto:steven@pourri.fr steven@pourri.fr] Jabber_Id:Steven@jabber.fr
* Acheteur potentiel #2

==== Rennes ====
Status : 3/10

* Cédric DUFOUIL (openmoko at tsleg point com)
* Yves MAHE (ymahe at zindep dot com)
* Guillaume BERTHELOM (yogui29 at gmail dot com)

=== Pays de la Loire ===
==== La Roche sur Yon ====
Status : 1/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vtouchar Vincent Touchard]

==== Nantes ====
Status : 2/10
* [[User:Yoann|Yoann ARNAUD]]. OK for a ship in Rennes if needed. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Yoann Contact me here]
* [[User:sim51|Benoît SIMARD]]. Idem [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sim51 Contact me here]

=== Nord ===

=== Ile de france ===
==== Paris ====
Status : 22/30

* StevenLeRoux
* <s>[[User:Phyce|Phyce]]</s> (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')
* Yann SLADEK ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Maveryck Contact me here])
* [[User:Wilk|Wilk]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wilk Contact me here]
* Jonathan Magano ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JonathanMM Contact me here])
* Benjamin Renard (bn8[AT]zionetrix.net)
* [[User:OlivierBerger|OlivierBerger]]
* [[User:BartGS|BartGS]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BartGS Contact me here]
* [[User:rcoscali|Rémi Cohen-Scali]]
* <s>[[User:Valos|Valéry Febvre]]</s> (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')
* <s>[[User:Manou|Emmanuel Raviart]]</s> (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')
* Le Troll Farceur ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LeTrollFarceur Contact me here])
* [[User:mshook|Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer]]
* [[User:LoicMinier|Loïc Minier]]
* [[User:chansen|Cyril Hansen]]
* [[User:hbernard|hugues]]
* Titilambert ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/titilambert Contact me here])
* [[User:Raphux|Raphux]]([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Raphux Contact me here])
* [[User:tuXXX|Damien Thébault]] (Contact me [[User:tuXXX|here]] or [[Special:Emailuser/tuXXX|here]])
* [[User:kkum|Kumar]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/kkum|here]])
* Gand' ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gand' Contact me here])
* [[User:Sporniket|David SPORN]]
* [[User:Bedo|Bedo]]
* <s>[[User:Ainulindale|Julien Cassignol]]</s> (commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop)
* [[User:Theocrite|Theocrite]]
* [[User:Gui82|Gui82]]
You may also see :
http://bearstech.com/shop

=== Lorraine ===
==== Nancy ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:mosan|Nicolas Salles]]

=== Rhône-Alpes ===
==== Lyon ====
Status : 2/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/patou Vincent MEURISSE]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pini Gilles FILIPPINI]

==== Grenoble ====
Status : 4/10

* <s>[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbollard Philippe]</s> (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aurelien Aurelien] (''commande groupée en préparation sur http://www.guilde.asso.fr/wiki/Openmoko '')
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Hey_popey Damien]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/swap38 Johann] (''commande groupée en préparation sur http://www.guilde.asso.fr/wiki/Openmoko '')

=== Alpes de Haute Provence ===
==== Manosque ====
Status : 1/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cfdev Cyril]

=== Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur ===
==== Sophia Antipolis ====
Status : 4/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nico.inc Nicolas HUOT]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xavier_OM Xavier CREMASCHI]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasile Vasile Jureschi]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Herve5 Hervé Sainct]

=== Midi-Pyrénées ===
==== Toulouse ====

Status: 2/10

* [[Special:Emailuser/Ortalo|Ortalo]]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Micktaiwan Mickael Faivre-Maçon]

== Germany ==
=== Baden-Württemberg ===
==== Karlsruhe ====

* [[Special:Emailuser/Spacemarine|Spacemarine]] I'm out. Since the Freerunner is available for 300 Euro in Germany, I don't see any point in organizing a groupbuy anymore. I've sent an email to everyone else interested in the groupbuy. If you are in this list or if I met you on the Kalug Meeting, you should have gotten it.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Dr.Nop|Dr.Nop]] (inzw. Ludwigsburg, falls es sich anbietet könnte ich auch zur Leonberger Gruppe wechseln)
* [[Special:Emailuser/JensB|JensB]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Gromgull|Gromgull]] (in Kaiserslautern, but Karlsruhe is close enough, and I doubt that I'll find 10 people here.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Ebi|Ebi]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/RIdd3r|Fabian]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Gollum|Gollum]] in Mannheim, ditto :) Maybe local postal service is an option?
* [[Special:Emailuser/Archimedes|Sebastian]] I'm going to buy at pulsters (299€) => I'm out
* [[Special:Emailuser/Roduit|Roduit]] In Heidelberg. Karlsruhe is close enough.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Cfo|cfo]] I think the offer of pulster is fair! => I'm out
* [[Special:Emailuser/Adonres|Adonres]] Karlsruhe - Hope I'm not too late.
* [[Special:Emailuser/BlackFog|BlackFog]] joins in

==== Leonberg ====
Status 1/10
* [[Special:Emailuser/Agon|Agon]] Maybe 1 Freerunner.
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* [[Special:Emailuser/ZaPPaS|ZaPPaS]] Sice the Freerunner is available for a comparable price at [http://www.pulster.de/] I will buy there...

==== Tübingen ====
Status 7/10
* [[Special:Emailuser/MiTo|MiTo]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/NoBody|NoBody]] close to tuebingen and stuttgart (between both)
* [[Special:Emailuser/eliasp|eliasp]] (3 Freerunner (me, qknight + sbock) - Tübingen downtown
* [[Special:Emailuser/nobs|nobs]] thinking about buying one; if I am #10, count me in; if there is someone else #11 you can drop me
* [[Special:Emailuser/marjay|marjay]] take also one (Dettingen/Erms)

==== Ulm ====
Status: 2/10
* [[Special:Emailuser/mzanetti|mzanetti]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Lord_Evil|Lord_Evil]] ich nehm auch eins. Evtl. kann ich mich auch an Augsburg anhängen.

=== Bayern ===

==== Augsburg ====

Status 5/10
I just want to see if there are enough people to fill up to ten. So add your name here if you are interested.

*[[Special:Emailuser/Whoever|whoever]] - Ich nehm eins, wenn die Münchner keines übrig haben.
*[[Special:Emailuser/paddy2706|paddy2706]] - Ein OpenMoko bitte :)
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*[[Special:Emailuser/Nightmare|Nightmare]] - Ich will es doch lieber beim Händler kaufen mit voller Garantie (pulster.de bietet es für 299 Euro an)

Wann werden die dann bestellt/gezahlt? Dauert bei mir no kurz bis ichs Geld für zusammen hab aber dann nehm ich eins.
MfG [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MookiE MookiE]

Hallo, ich würde mich für einen Freerunner interessieren. Wie sieht es mit Zoll aus? Kommt der noch dazu?
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Murks Murks]

$3690 (10 Freerunner)
+ $ 160 (Versand lt. Australiern)
=======
$3850

$3850
+ $ 732 (19% Einfuhrumsatzsteuer)
+ $ 0 (kein Zoll für Handys)
=======
$4582

$458 / 1,5$/€ = 305 € pro Telefon (als Richtwert)

==== München ====

Wir suchen noch einen Organisator für die Bestellung! Weiß jemand, was man so alles beachten muss?

'''Diskussion auf der [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup Seite]]!'''

Hilf mit, eine [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup]] aufzubauen!

Status 12/20

* [[Special:Emailuser/Imitation|Imitation]] 30 April 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/Koebi|koebi]] 05. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/wof|wof]] (2) 07. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/floe|floe]] 10. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/mathew muc|mathew muc]] 12. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/einalex|einalex]] 13. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/smurfy|smurfy]] 18. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/Whoever|whoever]] 02. Juni 2008 (München oder Augsburg, ich mach bei der Gruppe mit, die mir als erste ein Freerunner "garantiert")
* [[Special:Emailuser/Beni|Beni]] 05. Juni 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/Nosyjoe|Nosyjoe]] 08. Juni 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/peter_b|peter_b]] needs 2 Freerunner 16. Juni 2008
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* [[Special:Emailuser/Eriks|Eriks]] Unfortunately I have to sign me off. So somebody else has to arrange it. I'm really sorry about that. :-(

=== Berlin===
==== Berlin ====

Help to form a [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Berlin|Berlin User Group]]!

Status 18/20
* Stephan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Fischel Contact me here]
* Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Thebohemian Contact me here]
* Nico [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Nico Contact me here]
* Bastian [[User:Fries43]]
* Sven-Ola [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Sven-ola Contact]
* Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:arnepp Contact me here]
* MM [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:MM Contact]
* Keks [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Keksdosenmann Contact]
* Matthias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:mk Contact]
* Norbert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Noha Contact]
* Joscha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Joka Contact]
* Janne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Janne Contact]
* Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Robx Contact]
* Conrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Caribu Contact me here]
* govindas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:govindas Contact me here]
* philippt [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:philippt Contact me here if you dare ;-)]
* Stephan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Su2 Contact me here]
* Iván [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:ogai]

=== Bremen ===
==== Bremen ====
Status 3/10
* Gero Mudersbach [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gero Contact me here]
* Hartje Bruns [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrBurns Contact me here]
* Timo Scheffler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Faldrian Contact me here]

==== Bremerhaven ====

=== Hamburg ===
==== Hamburg ====
Status 9-10

* Jan 4-5[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jan07 Contact me here]
* Varacanero [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/varacanero Contact me here]
* Ole 3-5 pcs [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Olemoko Contact me here]
* Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/GuraX Contact me here]
* Arne.anka 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Arne.anka Contact me here]
* Wasili Goutas 1pc + debug adapter [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Laki Contact me here]
* mimbeck 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mimbeck Contact me here]
* savi 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savi Contact me here]

=== Hessen ===
==== Frankfurt ====
Status 1-10

* Blacky [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Blacky Contact me here]

=== Niedersachsen===
==== Hannover====
Status 2/10

* Dattel83 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dattel83 Contact me here]
* [[User:Ditto|Ditto]] contact me via [[Special:Emailuser/Ditto|e-mail form]] (If we don't get enough orders maybe we should join with [[GroupSales#Bielefeld|Bielefeld]] or another town close by)

=== NRW ===
==== Aachen ====
Status 4/10
* Henrik, infos on my [[User:Henrikz|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Henrikz|contact me here]]
* David, infos on my [[User:TechnoFan|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/TechnoFan|contact me here]]
* Stephan, infos on my [[User:chaq|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/chaq|contact me here]]
* Michael, infos on my [[User:knut|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/knut|contact me here]]

==== Bielefeld ====
Status 4/10

* David, infos on my [[User:Raven|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Raven|contact me here]]
* Sebastian, infos on my [[User:Seppi|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Seppi|contact me here]]
* Dackel, infos on my [[User:Killerdackel|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Killerdackel|contact me here]]
* Conny
* Arndt, infos on my [[User:Arndot|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Arndot|contact me here]]

==== Bocholt ====
===== (Fachhochschule in Bocholt) =====
* 1 x adslex
* 1 x dg [[Special:Emailuser/dg|contact me here]]

==== Düsseldorf ====
* mac2k, infos on my [[User:mac2k|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/mac2k|contact me here]]

=== Sachsen-Anhalt ===
==== Stendal (evtl. Magdeburg) ====
Status 1/10

* Fabian Off [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fabian2de Contact me here]

=== Thueringen ===
==== Weimar ====
Status 1/10

* [[User:Fries43]]

==== Ilmenau ====
Status 1/10

* [[User:KimKiesel]]

=== Sachsen ===
Da es das Gerät bei PULSTER für 299€ gibt und man mit einem 10er Paket diesen Preis nicht unterbieten kann, abgesehen davon, dass wir sowieso keine 10 Leute zusammenbekommen, sollte jeder sein Gerät einzeln Bestellen. Lediglich die Versandkosten kann man bei einer 10er Bestellung bei PULSTER sparen, was sich auch nicht lohnt. Die Accessoires muss man bei PULSTER separat bestellen. Ich hoffe, dass das allen genehm ist. --[[User:White gecko|White gecko]] 22:37, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

==== Chemnitz ====
Status 2/10

* Tobias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tobydox Contact me here]
* Michael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/her Contact me here]
==== Dresden ====
Status 1/10

* Martin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nodge Contact me here]

==== Leipzig ====
Status 5/10

* Natanael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/white_gecko Contact me here] (+3)
* Micha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Adian Contact me here]

== Hungary ==
Good to know:
*discussion here: http://hup.hu/node/54588
*mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-groupsales-hungary
*group ordering coordinator: Dániel Vásárhelyi (see below) - please contact me on any questions

ordering rules:
* anyone can add and remove him/herself on the list - new names MUST be _appended_ to the list
* please use real name and working e-mail address
* although this list is informative, please extend it _only_ if you are really serious about ordering it
* coordinator contacts everyone interested prior to actual buying

=== Budapest ===

# Ferenc 'Lion' Veres [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kempelen Contact] lion kukac netngine pont hu
# Laszlo 'rka' Szabo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rka Contact]
# tg [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tg?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Contact]
# LiRul - lirul [KUKAC] hixsplit [PONT] hu
# Nyosigomboc - nyos [KUKAC] nyos [PONT] homelinux [PONT] net
# Ludvig Adam - hunludvig [KUKAC] gmail [PONT] com
# [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asdmin?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Dániel 'asd' Vásárhelyi]
# btamas, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/btamas Contact]
# Kovács 'ka87' András, andras [kukac] csevego [pont] net
# pcm, pcm [kukac] freemail [pont] hu
# Geza Piros, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gpiros Contact]
# Áron Preisinger, appa00 [kukac] gmail [pont] com [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/appa Contact]
# pierre286, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pierre286 Contact]
# Hélei Zoltán, heleiz [kukac] gmail
# Radics Áron, raron @ vipmail . hu
# Laszlo Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]
# tr3w [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tr3w Contact]
# Ferenc Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]
# Bolyóczki Zsombor, mogorva kukac tuxworx pont hu
# Sütő Zoltán, suto dot zoltan at t dash online dot hu
# Zsolt Pittmann, pittmann dot zsolt at gmail dot com
# KREKACS Laszlo, laszlo {pont} krekacs {pont} list {kukacka} gmail {pont} com
# Móker Tamás - rwind [KUKAC] apacheweb [PONT] hu
# Krisztián Kovács, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Krisztian Contact]
# Tamas Michalik, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dotmind Contact]
# Peter Roosz, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rope Contact]
# Eduard Iacoboaia, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Polaru Contact]
# László Vadász, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lvadasz Contact]
# Attila Lendvai, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/attila.lendvai Contact]
# Thomas Otterbein [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tommi Contact]

=== Kecskemét ===
Dániel Vásárhelyi handles transportation to Kecskemét, therefore it is not necessary to collect 10 all pieces here.

== India ==
=== Bangalore ===
Status 1/10
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sh4r4d sharad]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gadiyar Anand Gadiyar]

=== Delhi/NCR ===
Status 2/10
* Sameer Mohamed Thahir [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sameerthahir Contact]
* Pratul Kalia (lut4rp) ''pratulkalia [at] gmail [dot] com''

== Italy ==
For more informations and to organize groups, visit the
*[http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''''Italian Freerunner Group Sales Google Group'''''] (ML/Web/Feeds) ([mailto:freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com]).

'''BUT please keep adding your name and email to the list below'''

If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the "most requested city", and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the "double-shipping". ([http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/10937/focus=10981 Read here for reference]).

=== Toscana ===
==== Firenze (e dintorni) ====
Status 12/10

'''''[[GroupSales/Firenze|Wiki organizzativo]]'''''

* [[User:Treviño|Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]] - [http://blog.3v1n0.net/contatti-trevino/ Contacts here]
* [[User:Niccolo|Niccolo Rigacci]] - ''niccolo [AT] rigacci.org''
* [[User:pcav|Paolo Cavallini]] - ''cavallini [AT] faunalia.it''
* [[User:BiggMatt|Mattia Gentile]] - ''biggmatt@hotmail.it''
* Elisa ''[mailto:lab@kkk.it lab@kkk.it]'' (Empoli)
* [[User:Sugacapra|Sugacapra]] - ''alessio.chemeri [AT] gmail.com''
* [[User:tom_morello|Carlo Ascani (Morello)]] - ''carlo.ratm [AT] gmail.com''
* [[User:marrano|Stefano Burchietti (Marrano)]] - ''stefano [AT] nontelodiromai.it''
* [[User:Geli86|Matteo Gelimeri X 2 (Imola - Bologna)]] - ''gelimatteo [AT] gmail.com''
* [[User:dcoppa|David Coppa (Borgo a Buggiano, Pistoia)]] - ''dcoppa@gmail.com''
* [[User:Panthack|Dario Panthack Pantani (Pontedera - Pisa)]] - ''panthack2 [AT] tiscali.it''
* [[User:alfatangoxt|Baraglia michele (alfatangoxt)(Vecchiano - Pisa)]] - ( mail ''[mailto:barmike1@tin.it]'') ( msn - ''alfatangoxt@hotmail.it'')

=== Lombardia ===

==== Milano e dintorni ====
Status 25/30

[[GroupSales_Milano_e_dintorni|Organizzazione preliminare]] DEPRECATA lì 11 Maggio 2008.

Da ora in poi usiamo il [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''].

Ad ogni modo, per stabilire le precedenze nella prenotazione dei pacchi da 10 pezzi 
'''continuate ad aggiugerVi nella lista qui sotto'''

*'''Gruppo 1'''
*# Marcello Gorla [mailto:marcello.gorla@gmail.com Contacts here] (Milano città)
*# Maxxer [mailto:maxxer@yetopen.it maxxer@yetopen.it] (Lecco)
*# Pietro Montorfano [mailto:monto84@gmail.com monto84@gmail.com] (from como)
*# Michele Castellano - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mubumba Contacts here] (Milano)
*# Maurizio Lipreri - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Maldido Contacts here]( Como )
*# Guido Conaldi - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/skepz Contacts here] (Varese)
*# [[User:Furester|Igor Scabini (furester)]] - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Furester Contacts here] (Milano)
*# Dario Panico [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dareus Contacts here] (Busto Arsizio, VA)
*# Marco Zanzotera (Milano città)
*# Francesco Ricci (Milano, Dipartimento di Scienze dell'Informazione, via Comelico 39/41) - possibile punto di ricezione/distribuzione - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Alfa21 Contacts here]

*'''Gruppo 2'''
*# Federico Belvisi - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Armalite Contacts here] (Legnano, MI/Varese)
*# Francesco Leserri - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Francy Contacts here] (Vimercate, MI)
*# [[User:Pietrao| Pietro Isotti]] - [mailto:isottipietro@gmail.com isottipietro@gmail.com]
*# Baz - [mailto:buzzi.paolo@gmail.com buzzi.paolo@gmail.com]
*# Mario Signorino ('''2 unità''') ([[User:Dodiesis|Dodiesis]])- [mailto:mario@sgrunt.net mario@sgrunt.net] (Milano - possibile punto di ricezione alternativo )
*# [[user:Stemby|Carlo Stemberger]] (Stemby) - '''carlo'''dot'''stemberger'''at'''gmail'''dot'''com''' (Missaglia, LC)
*# Marco Crobu - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tron.tron Contacts here] (Zogno, BG)
*# Maurizio [[User:Trizio!|"Trizio!"]] Ciceri (Novara)
*# Gianluca [mailto:cimi.luca@gmail.com Contacts here] (Lugano-CH)
*# Jacopo [mailto:jacopo.anselmi@gmail.com] (Milano Citta')

*Gruppo 3 - incompleto
*# david josè giovannini (green.riot AT gmail DOT com) [Arona - Lake Major]
*# Vincenzo Ampolo [mailto:vincenzo.ampolo@gmail.com] (Milano Citta')
*# Davide [[User:tullio80|tullio80]] Lurate Caccivio (Como)

=== Piemonte ===
==== Torino (and province) ====
Status 10/10

Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Torino)

Precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale 
*'''Gruppo 1''' (prime persone a fare l'ordine): 
1 x Claudio Carnino (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Alessandro Degano (a.degano AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Enrico Pigozzi (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here] 
1 x Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com) 
1 x Riccardo Issoglio (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it) 
1 x Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here] 
1 x Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it ) 
2 x Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!! 
 
*'''Gruppo 2''' (coloro che non ci stanno nel primo gruppo o che vogliono aspettare che il primo gruppo abbia ricevuto il telefono): 
1 x Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com ) 
1 x Marco Forasacco (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Gabriele Martino (pierino DOT the DOT living DOT joke AT gmail DOT com) 
... 
(aggiungersi chi è nuovo) 
 

-------------------------------------
LISTA ORIGINALE (24/05/08 14:48):
* Claudio Carnino (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)
* Alessandro Degano (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)
* Enrico Pigozzi (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)
* Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here]
* Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)
* Riccardo Issoglio (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)
* Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here]
* Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )
* Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!
* Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com )
* Marco Forasacco (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)
* Gabriele Martino (pierino DOT the DOT living DOT joke AT gmail DOT com)
--------------------------------------

=== Trentino-Alto Adige ===
==== Trento ====
Status 4/10

* Vincenzo D'Andrea (vincenzo.dandrea AT gmail DOT com) (also Verona is OK - and I can carry others' phone VR to TN or viceversa)
* Emanuele Olivetti (emanuele CHIOCCIOLA relativita PUNTO com)
* Marco Ciampa (ciampix (*) libero (*) it)
* Avi Arrigo (aviarrigo AT gmail DOT com)(also Milano is OK)

=== Friuli Venezia Giulia ===
==== Trieste ====
Status: 1/10

* dorje [mailto:dorje@libero.it dorje@libero.it] - [[User:dorje|dorje]]

=== Veneto ===

Status: 15/20

==== Padova ====

* Andrea [mailto:nick(at)linux.it nick(at)linux.it ]

==== Treviso ====

* Dario [mailto:aliasbrain@gmail.com aliasbrain(at)gmail.com] - [[User:Rastafan|Rastafan]] one, maybe two.

* Pedro [mailto:paguilar@junkerhq.net paguilar(at)junkerhq.net] - [[User:Paguilar|Paguilar]] Also Padova and Vicenza are ok.

* mr [mailto:maurizio.rottin@gmail.com maurizio.rottin a-t gmail d-o-t com] - [[User:Mr|Mr]] one for sure, maybe two

==== Venezia ====

* Tommaso [mailto:tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com] - [[User:Tobarello|Tobarello]] Also Padova, Vicenza & Trento are ok.

==== Verona ====

* Persegat [mailto:persegat@alice.it persegat@alice.it] - [[User:Pecce|Pecce]]
* Sylar91 [mailto:sylar1991@gmail.com sylar1991@gmail.com] - [[User:Sylar91|Sylar91]]
* Marco Franceschetti - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vonfritz Contacts here]
* AleksFalcone [mailto:aleks.falcone@gmail.com aleks.falcone@gmail.com] - [[User:AleksFalcone|AleksFalcone]]
* Roberto Previdi [mailto:hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com] - [[User:hariseldon78|hariseldon78]] (also Milano is ok)

==== Vicenza ====

* Michele [mailto:michele@cooperativabiosphaera.it michele(at)cooperativabiosphaera.it] - Also Padova is okay.

* Paolo [mailto:paolo.sartore@gmail.com paolo.sartore(at)gmail.com] Also Padova is okay.

* Renato [mailto:wasgiventofly@gmail.com wasgiventofly AT gmail DOT com] 

* Sandro [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vigerty contact me here] Also Padova is okay.

* Marco [mailto:marco.napetti@linux.it marco.napetti(at)linux.it] Also Padova and Verona are ok.

=== Emilia Romagna ===
Status : 6/10
==== Parma ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Delian|Marco Albanese]] [mailto:delian2@gmail.com delian2@gmail.com] For Me, it's ok for the decentralized shipment ( Milano for example :) ).

* [[User:Hachreak|Leonardo Rossi]] ssj3gokou AT libero Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.

==== Ravenna ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Fano|Stefano Ronconi]] fanharlok AT libero Dot it decentralized shipping is ok.
* vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...). ( se ti vanno bene ambo le citta' basta dirlo tra parentesi. Cosi', si fa confusione :) )

==== Bologna ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:nixy_999|Lorenzo]] nixy_999 AT yahoo Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.
* vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...).
* [[User:lord.of.the.dimm|Mauro]] lord.of.the.dimm AT gmail DOT com decentralized shipping: OK.

=== Puglia ===
==== Lecce ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Morpheus90|Morpheus90]] [mailto:ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com]
* [[User:Italyanker|italyanker]] [mailto:italyanker@gmail.com italyanker@gmail.com]

==== Bari ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:Fradeve11|Fradeve11]] [mailto:fradeve@ubuntu-it.org fradeve@ubuntu-it.org]

=== Abruzzo ===
==== Pescara ====
Status: 1/10

* ZarZ [mailto:zarz25@gmail.com zarz25@gmail.com]

=== Campania ===
==== Caserta (and province) ====
Status 1/10

* fenoxxx [mailto:fenoxxx@gmail.com] - Aversa

=== Lazio ===
==== Roma ====
Status 9/10

Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Roma)

La precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale 

Gruppo 1 (incompleto): 

* Hire X 2 [mailto:hiretto@gmail.com hiretto@gmail.com] (Roma)
* Darkbasic X 1 [mailto:darkbasic4(at)gmail darkbasic4(at)gmail] (Ancona)
* zione X 1 [mailto:alessio.filipponio@gmail.com alessio.filipponio@gmail.com](Roma)
* AntoMan X 1 [mailto:obe_65@yahoo.it AntoMan](Roma)
* Tempix X 1 [mailto:tempix11@gmail.com tempix11@gmail.com] (Ancona)
* lynx1673 X1 [mailto: acarfi at yahoo dot com] - lynx sei di Roma?
* zullinux X1 [mailto: francesco dot zuliani at gmail dot com] (Roma)

=== Liguria ===
==== Genova ====
Status 5/10

* Luca Maranzano X 1 (liuk AT linux DOT it) [[User:liuk|liuk]]
* Lorenzo Fornara X 1 (fw1987 AT hotmail DOT it)
* Stefano Cutelle' X 1 (staff@ascservices.it) [[User:ascservices|ascservices]]
* Andrea De Gaetano X 1 (dega1999 AT gmail DOT com) [[User:Dega1999|Dega1999]]
* Salvo Schiavone X 1 (salvoschiavone AT gmail DOT com [[User:Salvador|Salvador]]

=== Sicilia ===
==== Palermo ====
Status 9/10

* Giorgio Marciano' X 1 [mailto:giorgio.marciano@email.it giorgio]
* Roberto Calandra X 1 [mailto:isokazi@yahoo.it roberto]
* Vincenzo Moreno Luna X 6 [mailto:ciop85plus@hotmail.com vincenzo]
* Daniele Lupo X 1 [mailto:danwolf80@libero.it daniele]

==== Messina ====
Status 6/10

* Melug X 6 [mailto:suuuper@messinalug.org MeLug]

=== Calabria ===
Status 2/10

==== Catanzaro ====
* Carlo Mangani X 1 [mailto:carlo.mangani@gmail.com carlo.mangani@gmail.com] - Lamezia Terme

==== Cosenza ====
* Francesco Portus X 1 [mailto:portusgraphics@gmail.com portusgraphics@gmail.com] - Bisignano (Cosenza)

=== Sardegna ===
==== Cagliari ====
Status 1/10

* Panta x 1 [[User:Panta]]
Viaggio per tutta l'Isola, per cui, nel caso in cui arrivassimo a 10 utenti...

== Macedonia ==
=== Skopje ===
Status 1/10
* Kristijan Krsteski 1/10 [[User:neutrino]] [mailto:kristijan.krsteski@gmail.com]

== México ==
=== Ciudad de México ===
Status 1/10

* Kozapatista [[Special:Emailuser/User:kozapatista|Contact]]

=== Ciudad Victoria ===
Status 3/10

* 3x Gregorio Toscano [mailto:gtoscano@cinvestav.mx email]

== [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands The Netherlands] ==
(Discuss this group sale on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands talk page])

=== Special notice ===
After discussion on the talk page, a number of us have decided to place an individual order at Pulster.eu, because they are cheaper than the group sale discount, and they deliver a receipt with VAT. 
I'd advise the people on this group sale-list to do the same. 
You can indeed place a group order at Pulster.eu, but that won't lower the price, and would only add extra shipping costs. (from the person who made the group-order to the individual members of the group) [[User:Madjo|MadJo]] 11:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

* Marijn Kruisselbrink 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mkruisselbrink|Contact]]
* Andy Powell 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ScaredyCat|Contact]]
* Arjan Veenstra 1/10 [[User:AVee]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:AVee|Contact]]

=== Gelderland ===

==== Nijmegen ====
* [[User:Blalien|Danny Bouwman]] (Ewijk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Blalien|Contact]]

==== Nijkerk ====
* [[User:Nicolas|Nico Veenkamp]] (Nijkerk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Nicolas|Contact]]

==== Nijmegen ====
* [[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] (Nijmegen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:A.dre|Contact]]

=== Groningen ===

==== Haren ====
* [[User:akrabbe|Albert Krabbe]] (Haren 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:akrabbe|Contact]]

=== Limburg ===

==== Griendtsveen ====
* [[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] (Griendtsveen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:KenSentMe|Contact]]

=== Noord-Brabant ===

==== Bergen op Zoom ====
* [[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Madjo|Contact]]

==== Eindhoven ====
* Christ van Willegen 1 [[User:ChristW]]
* Jan van Nijnatten 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Javany|Contact]]
* Atilla Filiz 1 + debug board[[Special:Emailuser/User:Atilla|Contact]]

=== Noord Holland ===

==== Amsterdam ====
* Michel van Horssen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mivaho|Contact]]
* Frank Richter 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:res|Contact]]
* Eric Smith 1/10 [[User:Eric Smith]]
* Buddy Baars 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Budster|Contact]]

==== Beverwijk ====
* Theo Martens 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:T_M|Contact]]

==== Bussum ====
* Remco van Zuijlen 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:Remco|Contact]]

=== Overijssel ===

==== Deventer ====
* Jan de Haan 1/10 [[User:Jan de Haan]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:Jan de Haan|Contact]]

==== Enschede ====
* Peter Hageman 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:PingPong|Contact]]

==== Hengelo ====
* Sander Hoentjen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Tjikkun|Contact]]

==== Zwolle ====
* [[User:Boudewijn]] 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Boudewijn|Contact]]: mail me via mailinglist/mailtouser. Ordered via [http://www.pulster.de pulster!]

=== Zuid-Holland ===

==== Rijswijk ====
* Fernando Martins 1x [[User:fmartins]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:fmartins|Contact]]
* Igor 1x [[User:igorn]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:igorn|Contact]]

==== Zoetermeer ====
* S.Rademaker 1x [[User:S.rademaker]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:S.rademaker|Contact]]

==== Rotterdam ====
* Reinout van Schouwen [[User:reinouts]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:reinouts|Contact]]

=== Utrecht ===

==== Utrecht ====
* Eric Spierings 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ericsp|Contact]]
* Peter van de Werken 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:PWerken|Contact]]
* Kenny van Wanrooij 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:kenneth|Contact]]

=== Status ===
30/30

== New Zealand ==
===Networks===
As Telecom are using the 850MHz network for their GSM network, and Vodafone/northelia (possibly aka orcon) are using 900/1800MHz, please state which version you want. This may need more research, I'm not 100%; see [http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml] for more info 

===Shipping===
Based on info from steve (openmoko marketing) concerning weight and size, shipping via UPS will be about US$185 (NZ$24 each phone) to Auckland. 
UPS are far from the cheapest, but (again according to steve), OM have a contract with them, so this is what we are stuck with 

Someone on the community list suggested using [http://www.myus.com], a shipping company that will re-post items overseas at decent rates. They claim US$66 for a 3kg package, or NZ$8 per phone. Of course, the cost of shipping the phone from OM to the shipping company has to be added in as well.

===Purchase cost===
As of 2008-06-21, US$369 is worth NZ$484

===Duty/taxes/other charges===
import duty on mobile phones is 0%[http://www.customs.govt.nz/importers/Private+Importers/Customs+Charges.htm], and GST is 12.5% so the GST added to each phone will be NZ$64; 12.5% * (484 + 24), cos we pay GST on postage too...

So, the total cost of a Freerunner as part of a 10 pack, will be: 
484 + 24 + 64 
= '''NZ$572''' 

+ any possible charges to get it posted elsewhere in New Zealand

You'll also need to add on disbursement fees etc. If it's UPS it's not too bad (~NZ$40) if it comes through NZ Post then it can be ~NZ$120.

'''[http://nicegear.co.nz nicegear]''' may be bringing some in depending on pricing from OpenMoko.

=== Auckland ===
==== [[Auckland group sales|Auckland]] ====
Status:10 phones requested, the required minimum (10 phones) is reached, but more buyers are still welcome to join. 
13/20 
=====Intermediary=====
Glen ogilvie made a suggestion, that we could use a company (e.g. someone's employer, who are likely to have easily found contact details and thus be trustworthy) to buy the phones on our behalf (after we'd paid for them), and then deliver them to us. 
any volunteers? do any of you have understanding bosses/your own company that could help out here? 
Dave Lane: I think '''[http://egressive.com Egressive]''' would be willing to act as an intermediary. Contact me to discuss it... 

=== Purchaser List ===
*Rob Paulson [[User:Myfanwy]] [mailto:robin.paulson@gmail.com] 900MHz
**i'm quite happy to organise the purchase, if no-one has any objections. to ease any worries about me running off with the money, we could use an escrow service such as [http://safetrader.co.nz], or paypal. or does anyone have any other ideas?
*Simon Wells [[User:Swel024]] 900MHz
*Jeremy List [[User:Jeremy-list]] mailto:quick.dudley@gmail.com (Wellington, not Auckland, will pay for courier) 900MHz
*David Murrell [[User:Viddy]] - [mailto:dmurrell@waikato.ac.nz] I'm in Hamilton, either courier, or I'll drive up :) 900MHz
*Jeremy Gray [[User:Bogdan237]] [mailto:jgra163@ec.auckland.ac.nz] Auckland, 900MHz
*Xuân Baldauf [[User:xbaldauf]] [mailto:xuan--2008.05--GroupSales--wiki.openmoko.org@baldauf.org] Auckland CBD, 900MHz+1800MHz GSM with an [http://www.ak2.com.tw/pd_main.asp?sg_id=11 '''EU''' charger clip] instead of an Australian one (if this is in need to be selected). This is conditional: the transaction must complete by 2008-06-30, else I cannot participate, because I'm leaving the country afterwards.
*Paul Roe [[User:Par08]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Par08 contact me here] Christchurch, 2 x 900MHz
*Dave Lane [[User:dangerpossum]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dangerpossum contact] Christchurch, 1 x 900MHz + 1800MHz GSM
*Paul Hunkin [[User:paulhunkin]] [mailto:pwh4@cs.waikato.ac.nz Contact] Hamilton (I'll pay for a courier), 1 x 900MHz.
*Paul Sandkuijl [[User:Edictor]] [http://www.edictor.com/contact.php Contact me here] Napier (I'll pay for postage to Napier from Auckland) and I also suggest a PayPal/Safetrader similar service, 1 Vodafone compatible 900/1800MHz.
*Brent Wood [[User:pcreso]] [mailto:pcreso@pcreso.com Email] Wellington. Will pay courier to Wgtn. 1x Vodafone compatible 900/1800Mhz unit
*Glen Ogilvie [[User:Nelg]] [mailto:nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz Email] Auckland, 1x Vodafone compatible 900Mhz.

=== Wellington ===
==== [[Wellington group sales|Wellington]] ====
Status: 1/10
*Andrew Stephen [[User:lizardb0y]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lizardb0y email me] Wellington, 1 x 900/1800Mhz GSM Vodafone compatible.

== Norway ==
=== Nordland ===
==== Bodø ====
Status 2/10

* [[User:AlecTBM|Alexander Frøyseth]] [mailto:alexander.froyseth@gmail.com alexander.froyseth@gmail.com]
* Ole Marius
* Stian Vading
* [[User:Kolbjorn.Dahle|Kolbjorn Dahle]][mailto:kolbjorn@dahlenett.org]

=== Sør-Trøndelag ===
==== Trondheim ====
Status 14/20

*[[User:andy000|Andreas Kalvå]] [mailto:andy@samfundet.no andy@samfundet.no]
Send mail om du er interessert.

=== Østlandet ===
==== Oslo, Akershus, Buskerud, Vestfold ====
Status: 30/?? 
30/30 er bestilt via [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] 
ingen har påtatt seg å bestille inn flere, men det er etterspørsel etter fler.

* [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] [mailto:heikkis@matnat.uio.no] (30/30) FULT! Ta likevel kontakt for veiledning.
* [[User:StianEllingsen|Stian Ellingsen]]

==== Østfold ====
Status 2/10

* [[User:MrBlonde|Petter Nygård]] [mailto:pettnyg@frisurf.no] Interessert? -> Mail meg....
* Eirik Lavik

=== Vestlandet ===
==== Bergen ====
Status 1/10

* [[User:alastairj|Alastair Jenkins]] [mailto:alastair.jenkins@gfi.uib.no]
* [[User:olemd|Ole-Morten Duesund]] [mailto:olemd@glemt.net]

== Poland ==

* Special group buy site: https://www.kumulator.pl/show/group/35 (in edition moment: 37/40)

== Portugal ==
Portuguese (12/10) who are associates of ANSOL, please consider joining [[TeamANSOL]] (currently 5/10 members).

We also need to have a cost estimation for Portuguese customs (like the Australians did). 20% sales tax + customs tax is to be expected both for individual or bulk sales, because the price is quite high. But freedom is priceless :)

=== Aveiro ===
==== Aveiro ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:Ruben|Ruben Mendes]] ([[TeamANSOL]])

=== Lisboa ===
==== Lisboa ====
Status : 10/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Danielblues Daniel Branco]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Knuckles Ivo Anjo]
* [[User:Pedrosilva|Pedro Silva]]
* Ricardo Sousa ([[TeamANSOL]])
* [[User:RuiSeabra|Rui Seabra]] ([[TeamANSOL]])
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasco Vasco Névoa]
* [[User:Jcanelas|José Canelas]]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Brunus Bruno Valentim]
* José Esteves ([[TeamANSOL]])
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lothar_m Bruno Lopes]

=== Porto ===
==== Porto ====
Status: 1/10

* [[User:villate|Jaime Villate]] ([[TeamANSOL]])

== Sweden ==
We have a google group for discussion about a possible Swedish group order: freerunner-sverige@googlegroups.com, see [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-sverige Svensk Gruppbeställning av Freerunner]. Please join the discussion!

If insufficient number of people, orders could be merged and remailed perhaps.

Domestic remailing with Posten as A-class mail of a letter (criteria: length+width+height max 900 mm) weighing max 1 kg, without insurance should [http://www.posten.se/foretag/vara_tjanster/postageguide/postguideLetterDom.jspv cost 44 SEK]. 50 SEK more for insurance.

If we end up with more than one 10-pack in Sweden, my guess is that it would probably pay to order everything in one shipment to one address in Sweden to save on the international shipping, and then remail domestically.

=== Götaland ===
==== Göteborg ====

* [[User:Fwendt|Fredrik Wendt]] [[Special:Emailuser/Fwendt|Contact]]/wendt.se

==== Malmö ====
Status : 1/10

* Lars Jarlvik mailto:lars@larsfactory.se

=== Svealand ===
==== Stockholm ====
Status : 10/10

* Erland Lewin mailto:erland@lewin.nu
* Simon Kågström mailto:simon.kagstrom@gmail.com
* Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson mailto:ingi@ultimalabor.se
* Adam Johansson mailto:adam@sollentunaholm.se
* Lowe Schmidt mailto:lowe.schmidt@gmail.com
* [[User:Dex|Johan Eklundh]] Mail automated via contact page.
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/esbjorn Esbjörn Dominique]
* Johan Erlands mailto:johan.erlands@gmail.com
* [[User:Joel | Joel Metelius ]] [[Special:Emailuser/Joel | (contact)]] 1 phone + 1 debug (if possible)
* Peter Wihlner mailto:info@faktor.nu

==== Örebro ====
Status : 1/10

* Anders Petersson [mailto:demitar@worldforge.org demitar@worldforge.org]

==== Västerås ====
Status : 2/10
* Jörgen Lidholm, could join the Falun/Borlänge or Stockholm group [mailto:jorgen.lidholm@gmail.com]
* John Törnblom, can also join the Stockholm group [mailto:f04jto@student.lth.se]

=== Norrland ===
==== Umeå ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Zash|Zash]] [[Special:Emailuser/Zash|Contact]]
* [[User:Benjamin|Benjamin]] [[Special:Emailuser/Benjamin|Contact]]

==== Luleå ====
Status : 3/10

* [[User:Mjukis|Mjukis]] [[Special:Emailuser/Mjukis|Contact]] - 2 Units. Can also join the Malmö group order.
* [[User:mh|mh]] 1 unit, mailto:mh@rcc.se If not up to 10 by launch. i'd join any group and either pick it up or have it remailed nationally

== Switzerland ==

1x 10 Pack ordered from pulster for the group Zürich! Read more below --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 17:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

'''???''' should organize the 3 x 10pack for Zürich 
Luca Capello could organize the 10pack for Geneva. 
Mathieu will organisze the 2 x 10pack for Lausanne EPFL CH-fr 

All payment in advance (a 10pack will cost approx 3'800 USD). 

'''Probably we will organize shippings, if we cannot all move to Zürich/Genève/Lausanne to get our Neo.'''

''François Bianco is trying to create a new group of 10 (will be mostly for French Switzerland). -> The group moved to the EPFL group, which will try to reach 20 persons. --[[User:Fbianco|Fbianco]] 11:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)'' 
''Gabriel Ambuehl would volunteer to order the initial 10pack. <- still accurate ? -> Gabriel will not organize the 10packs for Zürich due to not being in Switzerland. We are in contact to find a solution so please wait until we know what to do. Order in Germany (each for himself or as a group, not clear yet) could be as cheap as a 10pack. We are in contact with pulster.de and will be contacted form pulster about the price. We will contact you guys in the Zürich list as soon as we know more --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 10:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)'' 
''Alexandre Ghisoli will not organize the second 10pack, since the order moved in the Lucca's group.'' 

=== Customs and Postage ===
I called the [http://www.ezv.admin.ch/index.html?lang=en Swiss Federal Customs Administration] and it seems that we only need to pay VAT (7.6%) and the UPS taxes as well (since the parcel will be sent through UPS). Thus I called [http://www.ups.com/content/ch/en/contact/ UPS] and it seems that UPS directly pays the VAT instead of the customer, then asking the customer for refund (plus a fixed tax of EUR13.00). So I think the following per-phone cost for a Swiss bulk order should be a good estimate.

{| border="1"
|'''Bulk Order'''
|'''USD'''
|'''CHF'''
|-
|Customs Value (Cval)
|3690.00
|3837.60
|-
|Postage
|160.00
|166.40
|-
|Value of Taxable Importation (VoTI) = Cval+Postage
|3850.00
|4004.00
|-
|VAT = 7.6% of VoTI
|292.60
|304.30
|-
|UPS fixed tax (EUR13.00)
|20.00
|20.80
|-
|Total Cost
|4162.60
|4329.10
|-
|'''Per Person'''
|'''416.26'''
|'''432.91'''
|}

Figures accurate as of 4th Jun 2008 from [http://www.ubs.com/1/e/index/bcqv/calculator.html UBS]: 1EUR = 1.54USD and 1USD = 1.04CHF.

==== Shipping ====
If we would ship Neos, here is the Swiss PostPac prices :

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2"
! Description
! Size [cm]
! Price CHF TTC
|-
| Size 1
| 22.9 x 14.7 x 9.9
| 2.20
|-
| Size 2
| 31.5 x 22.5 x 12.5
| 2.40
|-
| Shipping Priority
| up to 2Kg
| 8.-
|-
| Shipping Economy
| up to 2Kg
| 6.-
|}

 

Steve posted informations about boxes that will be out with Neo :

* 10 pack : 435mm x 371mm x 119mm, approx 3kg, UPS will charge 160USD (need to be verified)
* Individual pack : 178mm x 104mm x 84mm, 237 grams

So size 1 will fit ! Local delivery in Switzerland will cost 8.20 for Economy or 10.20 Priority.

==== Zurich ====

===== Pulster.de order (already ordered and on their way!) =====
I organized already an order from Pulster.de due to the best conditions:
* 299 Euro - 19% German sales tax = 249 Euro
* 249 Euro + 7,6% Swiss sales tax
* evtl. some border taxes
* no shipping costs! (pulster sends for free)
* 2 Years warranty

The conditions to get a device from me:
* As soon as I have them i will contact you
* You pick up your device in Winterthur
* You pay me cash (you will not get a device before I have the money in my hands)
* You bring the correct amount of money (I can't give return)
* I will _not_ raise the price for my profit. You pay what I pay

So add yourself to the list here if you want one: 
Status : 10/10 -> full 
* Esra Kummer (3 Geräte!) (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tuxfux.ch Contact]
* Simon Wenner (Schaffhausen) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nowic Contact]
* Markus Huggler (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]
* Simon Schreiber (Zurich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]
* Hannes Wyss (Zurich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]
* Felix Rabe (Basel/Romanshorn) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Felixrabe Contact]
* Carlos Diener (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Emonkey Contact]
* Walter Sutter (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Seraphim Contact]

Status : 28/30 
'''Contact person who order the 10Pack : ??'''

List already contains 30 people! 
''-- I changed from 20 -> 30 Devices in this order. --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 18:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)''

* Andre Timmermann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]
* Pascal Weller [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]
* Nick Zbinden (Luzern) [mailto:nickik@gmx.ch] oder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nickik Contact]
* Marcel Wirth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Skarhand Contact]
* Marcel Lütolf (Luzern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/NeRo Contact]
* Christian Corrodi [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matto Contact]
* Mirko Klingauf [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/RealAtaman Contact]
* Marcel Jost (Bern, with debug board if possible) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Onsonic Contact]
* Marc Andre Tanner (Biel) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mat Contact]
* Peter Salvisberg [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Psal Contact]
* Martin Kos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KoS Contact]
* Lorenz Schori (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Znerol Contact]
* Pascal Mages (Bern/Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/FreeMind Contact]
* Esra Kummer (2 Geräte!) (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tuxfux.ch Contact]
* Joerg Maeder (Opfikon) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/goergel Contact]
* Marc Bodmer (Solothurn) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/minxx Contact]
* Philipp Meier (Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/PhilippMeier Contact]
* Adrian Rudin (Basel) [mailto:adrian@mav.ch] or [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/blackmav Contact]
* Christof Pfister (Lyss) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chpfister Contact]
* Walter Sutter (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/seraphim Contact]
* Philipp Hug (St. Gallen) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Philipphug Contact]
* Thomas Jund (Aarau) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/none Contact]
* Tropechopf (Luzern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tropechopf Contact]
* Alex Ingold (Interlaken) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ingoldey Contact]
* Alex Aeschlimann (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alexae Contact]

==== Geneve ====
Status : 10/10 
'''Contact person who order the 10Pack : Luca Capello '''
WARNING, this list already contains 10 people! -- LucaCapello

* Diego Abelenda [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Aelia Contact]
* Luca Capello [mailto:luca@pca.it]
* Nicolas Produit [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Produit Contact]
* Sebastien Nanchen [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sn Contact]
* Matthieu de Montmollin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matthieudem Contact]
* Robin Farine (Auvernier) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rfarine Contact]
* Alexandre Ghisoli (Yverdon) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Agh Contact]
* Raphael Studer (Thurgau) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tschudder Contact]
* Christian Wäckerlin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/boognu Contact]
* Michael Stähli (Lausanne EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/adler Contact]

==== Suisse romande / Lausanne (EPFL) ====
Status : 20/20 COMPLETE 
'''Contact person who order the 10Packs : [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Mathieu Habegger] '''

* Mathieu Habegger (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Contact]
* Matthias Brändli (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hb9egm Contact]
* Frédéric Fokan(Lausanne) [mailto:fredericfokan@gmail.com Contact]
* Gulu (Lausanne) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gulu Contact]
* Edomaur (Lausanne, with Gulu) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edomaur Contact]
* Layx (Lausanne) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Layx Contact]
* Mélanie Baumann (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/calis Contact]
* Laurent Fasnacht (EPFL) [http://gnugeneration.epfl.ch/users/fasnacht Contact]
* Urs Blaser (UNIL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/arctus Contact]
* David Lütolf (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dlutolf Contact]
* François Bianco [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/fbianco Contact]
* Samuel Dorsaz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/akira Contact]
* Ludovic Fardel (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lfardel Contact]
* David Pelichet Contact via hb9egm 
* Vincent Hentsch [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vincos Contact]
* Carruzzo Gilles [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Willows Contact]
* Nicolas Favrod-Coune [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nfavrod Contact]
* Mathias Coinchon [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Coinchon Contact] 
* Rey Cyril (Monthey) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cyril Contact]
* Didier Raboud (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OdyX Contact]
* ---- '''The 20 pack is complete''' ----
 
'''''This list will be extended to 30 only if we can complete the 30 pieces''''' ''Add your name below if you're interested --[[User:Habi|Habi]] 19:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)''
* ''Claude Angéloz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/claude-elrond740 Contact]''
* Pascal Bach (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Anakron Contact]
* Nicolas Etienne (Gimel) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nice Contact]
* Michel Dänzer (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrCooper Contact]
* Yvon-Philippe Crittin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/y-phil Contact]

== Spain ==
=== Spain (Country Group Sale) ===
Status: 16/20

=== Madrid ===
==== Madrid ====
Status : 5/10

* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Rafael Campos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Methril Contact] 

* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Pabloruiz contact me here]

* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Carlos Padilla Sorbas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:cymonline contact me here]

* [[Special:Emailuser/Troy|Alvaro Garcia Roy]] 1 phone

* [[User:kresp0 | Santiago Crespo]] 1 phone

=== Zaragoza ===
==== Zaragoza ====
Status : 1/10

* Arturo Giner [[Special:Emailuser/artginer|Contact]]

=== Barcelona ===
==== Barcelona ====
Status : 7/10

* José Luis Pérez [[Special:Emailuser/jluis|Contact]]
* David Reyes Samblas Martinez [[Special:Emailuser/mutrox|Contact]]
* Sergio Arias [[Special:Emailuser/saerguio|Contact]]
* Alex Muntada [[Special:Emailuser/alexm|Contact]]
* Pascal co [[Special:Emailuser/pascalco|Contact]]
* Antonio Rodríguez ( x2 ) [[Special:Emailuser/AntonioR|Contact]]

=== Valencia ===
==== Valencia ====
Status : 1/10

* Pau Gaspar Díaz [[Special:Emailuser/pau|Contact]]

=== Islas Canarias ===
==== Tenerife ====
Status : 1/10

* Enrique Hernández Bello [[Special:Emailuser/SiNiESTrO|Contact]]

== UAE ==
Status: 1/10
* Yaser Ammar [[Special:Emailuser/Waraqa|Contact]]

== USA ==
=== Arizona ===
==== Tucson ====
Willing to reship to nonlocal people within the US (cheaper if you're closer), or get absorbed into another group that's willing to reship. In talks with Boulder (Colorado) group.

Status: 3/10
* [mailto:wes.shull@gmail.com wesshull] Wes Shull - 1x GTA02 + 1x debug board
* Richard Reichenbacher - 2x GTA02

=== Colorado ===
==== Boulder ====
Status: 9/10
* Vinc Duran x2 (I can purchase and distribute locally) [mailto:uberpfloyd@gmail.com?subject=Openmoko%20group%20sales Pfloyd] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pfloyd Contact]
* John Miller [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jwm jwm]
* D Padilla 
* Joey Stanford [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/k0fcc k0fcc]
* J Hinegardner [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jjh jjh]
* S Derrick of New Mexico x2 
* R Schwarz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rschwarz rschwarz]

==== Denver (Full) ====
Status: 10/10 (includes the gentleman from Utah)
* Shawn Sullivan [[mailto:shelbydz87@yahoo.com shelbydz87@yahoo.com]]
* Peter Abplanalp [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alderion Contact]
* Ben Burdette [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ansible Contact]
* Tom Russell [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tazbert Contact]
* Trace [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gnork Contact]

==== Fort Collins ====
Status: 1/10
* Paul Hummer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rockstar Contact]

=== California ===
==== Los Angeles ====
Status: 8/10

* Ian Douglas, Santa Monica I'll help organize a group sale, meet & greet, but since I was selected to help test the Freerunner, I won't need to actually purchase one. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iandouglas Contact me here]
* Matthew Wetmore, Westchester 90045 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wetmoko Contact]
* Daniel, Torrance [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Beaker82 Contact]
* James Robertson, Irvine [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JamesRobertson Contact]
* Bill Sun [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/DancingSun Contact]
* Michael, Santa Monica [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bstudios Contact]
* Russel Dwiggins, Cerritos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/undrwater Contact]
* Dima, Pasadena [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dima Contact]
* Mike, Santa Monica (1 unit + 1 debug board) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Traveler Contact]

==== San Diego ====

Status: 8/10

Includes North County, Riverside, Tijuana, etc.

* Peter Naulls, Carlsbad (South)/Mira Mesa (near Qualcomm) - will coordinate. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pnaulls Contact]
* Tracy Reed [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/treed Contact]
* Adam Hughes [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ajinxa Contact]
* Paul Breed [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbreed Contact]
* Greg Davidson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JGregD Contact]
* Larry Riedel [mailto:Larry@Riedel.org Contact]
* David Wilhelm [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bluefir Contact]
* Jim McLaughlin - could move to LA group if needed as other company office is near LAX [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rpq Contact]

==== San Francisco Bay Area ====
Status: 10/10 Full

(Discuss this group sale, pickup and payments on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#San_Francisco_Bay_Area talk page])

* Ajit Natarajan - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ajitk Contact]

* Dirk Bergstrom - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krid Contact]

* Tupshin Harper - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tupshin Contact]

* Lothar Werzinger (900MHz) - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Elektrolott Contact]

* William Ray Yeager - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/wyeager Contact]

* Sebastian Coe - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savari Contact]

* Jim Morris - (Agreed to organize purchase) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/wolfmanjm Contact]

* Brian Carver - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/brianwc Contact]

* Cry Regarder (2 units, cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cry_Regarder Contact]

Status 6/10
* Cry Regarder (1 units, cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cry_Regarder Contact]

* Jim Lutz - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JLutz Contact]

* Kelley Eitzen - (Cash or Paypal) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xeromist Contact]

* Paul Mahon - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dufflebunk Contact] (San Jose)

* William Morgan - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Williamallthing Contact]

* ken restivo - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kenrestivo Contact]

=== Florida ===
==== Central Florida ====
Status 1/10
* 1 x Jonathan Howard [[Special:Emailuser/kingtgaurd9|Contact]], Orlando

=== Idaho ===
==== Southwestern Idaho ====
Status 2/10
* 1 × Eugene Kravtsov [[Special:Emailuser/theUg|Contact]], Garden City (Boise).
* 1 × Christopher Blay [[Special:Emailuser/blayde|Contact]], Twin Falls.

=== Midwest ===
'''(combine Illinois / Iowa / Tennesee / Texas / Wisconsin)'''
Status: 10/10
* Steven M [[Special:Emailuser/Montgoss|Contact]] - Cedar Rapids, IA
* Joseph Booker [[Special:Emailuser/Sargas|Contact]] - Chicago, IL
* Matt McCormick [[Special:Emailuser/Thewtex|Contact]] - Madison, WI
* Charles Hill [mailto:charles.e.hill@gmail.com email] - Chicago, IL
* Greg Bonett [mailto:greg@bonett.org email] - Iowa City, IA
* Tushar Dayal [mailto:tdayal@gmail.com Contact] - Ames, IA
* solomon jacob herscovitch [[Special:Emailuser/SoloSalsa|Contact]] - Chicago, IL
* Eric Olson [mailto:ericools@gmail.com Contact] - Madison, WI
* Tom Watson [[Special:Emailuser/Toggles|Contact]] - Pittsburgh, PA
* An-Phong Le [mailto:an427@hotmail.com Contact] - Urbana, IL

=== Kentucky ===
(Possibly + 2 from Memphis?)
Status: 8/10 (Possibly 10?)
* Dan Staley [[Special:Emailuser/Pyrasi|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* Donnie Jones [[Special:Emailuser/Donniejones18|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* John Sterling [[Special:Emailuser/Sterling|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* James MacLachlan [[Special:Emailuser/Jmaclachlan|Contact]] (Louisville, KY)
* John Askew [[Special:Emailuser/Johnaskyou|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* Devin Cook [[Special:Emailuser/Dcook|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* Geoff Ruscoe [[Special:Emailuser/Geocode|Contact]] - Louisville, KY
* Jon Howard [[Special:Emailuser/Jchoward|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)

=== Ohio / Michigan ===
Status: 10/10
* David Pais (Unknown City) [mailto:davioh2001@yahoo.com email]
* Dave Ludlow (Toledo) (I can purchase and distribute) [[Special:Emailuser/adsllc|Contact]]
* Adam Steele (Cincinnati) [mailto:adam@laurasteele.net Contact]
* Elliot Bailey (Canton) [mailto:elliot.bailey@yahoo.com Contact]
* Richard Rowell (Grand Rapids) [mailto:richard.rowell@gmail.com Contact]
* [mailto:sf_openmoko10pak2@paulwehr.com Paul Wehr] Ann Arbor
* Micah Krafcik (Youngstown) [mailto:mjk20xx@yahoo.com Contact]
* Doug Wurtzbacher (Centerville) x2 [mailto:doug@medicineshoppekett.com Contact]
* Martin Dicks (Columbus) [[Special:Emailuser/mdicks|Contact]]

=== Pacific Northwest ===
==== Oregon ====
===== Eugene =====
Status: 2/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Washington group)

* Quentin Hartman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/qhartman|Contact]] Willing to organize the Oregon group buy and/or be absorbed into another Pacific NW group if too few locals sign up.
* Brian Wilson (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Brian_H_Wilson|Contact]] (in Corvallis actually)

==== Washington ====
===== Seattle =====
Status: 8/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Oregon group)
* Jon Pomeroy (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Jepomeroy|Contact]]
* Andrew Hirata (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/tonkatsu182|Contact]] Note: I live in Bellevue
* Chris Baker (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/cwainb|Contact]]
* Mark Zimmerman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mawazi|Contact]]
* Wim Lewis (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Wiml|Contact]] In Wallingford.
* Charles Wheeler (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/SnowWolf75|Contact]] Note: Work in Bellevue, live in Federal Way. May not have money till mid-July.
* Gino O (Status confirmed) (i n f o @ seatlewebcreations.com) I live on Beacon Hill and own 2 companies, one for web and another for opensource mobile development. I'd like to get @ least one, and may be able to cover the difference for a group purchase if need be.
* Matt Luzum (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mluzum|Contact]]

=== Tennessee ===
==== Memphis ====
Status: 2/10
* Peter O'Connor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/poconnor Contact]
* Jarvis Stubblefield (Prefer with Debug) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BallisticPain Contact]

=== Texas ===
==== Austin (15/10) ====
* Dale Schumacher [[Special:Emailuser/dalnefre|Contact]]
* Michael Cosby [[Special:Emailuser/mcosby|Contact]]
* Paul Jimenez [[Special:Emailuser/pj|Contact]]
* Charles [[Special:Emailuser/rbn|Contact]]
* Anthony Kitchin [[Special:Emailuser/akitchin|Contact]]
* Carl (x2) [[Special:Emailuser/texatopia|Contact]]
* Robert (+Debug Board) [[Special:Emailuser/SHaRK|Contact]] (Houston)
* Bryan DeLuca [[Special: Emailuser/Stupkid|Contact]] (Fort Worth)
* Dennis Parker [[Special: Emailuser/dparker|Contact]]
* Chip Rosenthal [[Special: Emailuser/chip|Contact]]
* Brad Mouring [[Special: Emailuser/Bmouring|Contact]] (Moving to Austin by mid-June, likely earlier)
* Joel Greenberg [[Special: Emailuser/joelg|Contact]]
* Hans Loeblich [[Special: Emailuser/Peepsalot|Contact]]
* Mark Rinaudo [[Special:Emailuser/Mrinaudo|Contact]]
* Scott Farrell [[Special:Emailuser/sfarrell|Contact]]

==== Dallas (2/10) ====
* Philip White [[Special:Emailuser/pmw|Contact]]
* Stephen Shelton [[Special:Emailuser/stephenashelton|Contact]]

=== Mid-Atlantic ===
==== District of Columbia (DC) Metro Area ====
* Brian DeRocher [[Special:Emailuser/brian_252|email]]
==== Virginia====
===== Virginia Tech (1/10) =====
* Lally Singh [[Special:Emailuser/lally|email]] -- yeah, if you're ordering anywhere in VA, lemme know. 
===== Richmond (1/10)=====
*Steve Watson mailto:ssw0213@gmail.com 

==== New York (19/20) ====

* Bert Hartmann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BertHartm Contact me here] 
* Michael Cole mailto:mjcole137@gmail.com 
* Remy Frerebeau [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rfrerebe Contact me here] 
* Ulises E. Erickson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ulix Contact me here] 
* Justin Daly [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/justo Contact me here] 
* Philippe Gerard [[Special:Emailuser/feydreva|Contact]] I live in Richmond (VA) but we will never be 10 there 
* Evan Charlton mailto:evancharlton+om@gmail.com 
* Paul Buede mailto:paul@buede.com 
* Baruch Even [[Special:Emailuser/poka|Contact me here]] 
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced)Paul Hurlock [[Special:Emailuser/triclosan|Contact me here]] 
* Ryan [[Special:Emailuser/ryan|Contact me here]] (Connecticut, actually, but close enough.) 
* Charles Pax mailto:charles.pax@gmail.com
* Chrisropher Pax mailto:christopher.pax@gmail.com
* Miki Grof-Tisza [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MTisza Contact me here] 
* Daniel Dadap 1x [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/danek Contact me here] - If we don't reach 20 by release date I intend to purchase individually. 
* Yaroslav Halchenko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/yarikoptic]
* Craig Woodward [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Woody14619|Contact here] or mailto:woody14619@yahoo.com Up-state & will require re-ship.
* Alex [[Special:Emailuser/rakukin|Contact]]
* Charles Lohr [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cnlohr Contact me here] (Lives in MD, will require re-ship) NOTE: Unless someone emails me before July 7 I will withdraw from group order. 

==== Maryland (0/10)====
(Group apparently defunct due to NY Order)
* Paul Buede I switched to New York, cause we don't have enough. Look up ^ 
* Charles Lohr -- Switched to New York (if possible)
* Alex (switched to NYC, see above; may be able to deliver phone(s) to DC metro)

==== North Carolina (3/10)====
* Jason Sharpee [[Special:Emailuser/zonyl|Contact]] - Charlotte Metro area 
* William Vidrine [[Special:Emailuser/Infoport|Contact]] - Greensboro/Triad area, will be part of an NC or Mid-Atlantic order; will drop out and order individually if 10 not reached. 
* Joe White [[Special:Emailuser/Raygions|Contact]] - Winston-Salem/Triad area 

=== Massachusetts ===
Status: 10/10 (Full)
* Benjamin Moody [[Special:Emailuser/FloppusMaximus|Contact]]

* Ken Young, Cambridge (Note, if we're not up to 10/10 on the day the Freerunner is announced, I'm going to drop out and order individually).[[Special:Emailuser/Dolson|Contact]]

* Chris White (for 2) [[Special:Emailuser/Safire|Contact]]

* Nick Dube - Pembroke, NH (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Doobe01 Contact]

* Justin Brzozoski - Worcester, MA area [[Special:Emailuser/Jabski|Contact]]

* John Nicholson - Amherst, MA (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/nicklogan|Contact]]

* Matthew Campbell - Worcester, MA [[Special:Emailuser/lifeisafractal|Contact]]

* Jeff Gold [[Special:Emailuser/jgold|Contact]]

* Craig Allen [[Special:Emailuser/knodalyte|Contact]]

Status: 7/10

* Bala Nair - Acton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/bnair|Contact]]
* Mike Doody - Groton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/dude|Contact]]
* 0x Nathan Perry - Derry, NH (cannot switch to GSM at this time)
* Kyle Harrington - Amherst, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/dancingcuziwanna|Contact]]
* Ryan Svoboda - Worcester, MA (Will buy one individually on release day if this group is incomplete) [[Special:Emailuser/ryansv|Contact]]
* Ryan Meador - Worcester, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/Yanroy|Contact]]
* Jeff Gelbard - Haydenville, MA [[Special:Emailuser/jgelbard|Contact]]
(Between the 2 groups, we already have 7 "visibly" from Worchester - Western MA...I think the group should be resorted....Who is the contact where the package will be sent?)

=== Nevada ===
==== Reno/Sparks ====
Including Northwestern Nevada/ Northeastern California
Status: 1/10
* Tyrell Berry [[Special:Emailuser/Alawatsakima|Contact]]

== UK ==

* Stroller (Milton Keynes, can travel) mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk 01908 663 513. Thinks that breaking the UK up into regions - at least outside London - is silly. There are unlikely to be 10 people in $your_town who want a Freerunner, so some posting of Freerunners will surely be required; see [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Oxford the talk page]. This is the same cost anywhere in the UK.

=== Scotland ===
==== Edinburgh ====
Status : 4/10
* Joe Wells (Edinburgh) [http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~jbw/ Web] I have two comments:
** The Wiki's e-mail feature (those URLs with “Special:Emailuser” in them) does not seem to be working. I tried contacting Dave Ball and Stuart MacKinnon that way and got no reply. Later, Stuart and Dave (who I reached by writing a message here) told me they never got the e-mail. So the Wiki's e-mail feature might be broken. So please contact me by going to my web page and using my e-mail address listed there. Stuart, George, and Dave have been in contact with me by e-mail. I am happy to put anyone in Scotland who sends me e-mail in touch with the others.
** Not enough people have gotten in touch so far (as of 2008-06-28) to justify a bulk order of a 10-pack. Also, there is now a UK distributor: [https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=OpenMoko TrueBox]. Because TrueBox appears to be ordering 10-packs (and thereby getting the bonus goodies (headphones and pouches) that come in the 10-packs), it seems there is little motivation to try to organize a Scottish bulk order. So I am likely to give up on the idea of a Scottish bulk order for myself (unless lots of people contact me in the next day or so!).
* Dave Ball (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Daveb Contact]
* Stuart MacKinnon(Livingston) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hoagster Contact]
* george Maistros (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mordilo_k Contact]

==== Glasgow ====
Status : 3/10

* Kyle Gordon [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kylegordon Contact]
* Sean Anderson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Moniker42 Contact]
* Kenny Duffus [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sealne Contact]

=== England ===

==== Hampshire ====

Status: 16/20 at 2008-05-24

http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FreerunnerBulkBuy

Willing to re-ship within the UK.

(Sorry, we set up the page before we knew about this one)

==== London ====

Status : 17/10

* Juergen Schinker mailto:ba1020@homie.homelinux.net
* aled [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aled Contact]
* Robert Piasek (actually in Southampton) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Queen6 Contact]
* Tom Scholl (Cambridge, travel to London now and then anyway so could pick up) [mailto:thomasscholl@gmail.com]
* Weiss (Cambridge, could collect from London) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Weiss Contact]
* Neil Bentley (in Wiltshire) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ohnez Contact]
* rhn x 2 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rhn Contact]
* Tim Coggins [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Contact]
* Michele Mattioni (I'm based in Cambridge too, but if Tom can go to London I can grab the phone in Cambridge) [mailto:mattions@gmail.com]
* '''Group Buyer''' Ben F-W (Fulham, London) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/benfw Contact]
* T. Chan (Cambridge, vaguely knows Weiss) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/TC Contact]
* Rob Paulson (Derby, but will be visiting London in July) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Myfanwy Contact]
* Mario [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Spirer Contact]
* David Pottage (actually in Reading) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chrestomanci Contact]
* Tim Wentford (Really in London 8^) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/TimW Contact]
* Keith Burdis (Greater London) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Erwbgy Contact]

==== West Midlands ====
Status : 3/10

* Mo Abrahams (Walsall) mailto:moabrahams@dashavoo.com
* Jonathan Spooner (Walsall)
* E. Lucretiu (Stafford) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lucretiu Contact]

== Latvia ==
=== Riga ===
==== Riga ====
Status : 2/10
* Ilya [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/VRGhost Contact]
* Deniss [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Druidegrey Contact]

== Singapore ==
Status : 3/10
* Wee Kiam Peng [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jipi Contact]
* Chen Ruo Fei [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crf Contact]
* Moritz Haeberle [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Morid Contact]

== Israel==
Status : 3/10
* Ofer Herman [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/oferhe Contact]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Talba Talba]
* Dan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Da-x Contact]

== Czech Republic ==
<div style="text-align: center;">
Koordinátorem objednávání je Martin Šenkeřík [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]
</div>
=== Aktuálně ===
'''Odeslal jsem všem ze seznamu mail s informacemi k odeslání peněz. Pokud náhodou někomu mail nedorazil, urychleně se mi ozvěte, ať se nemusí moc čekat. Mohlo se stát, že jsem v tom množství někoho nechtěně vynechal...'''
*'''26.6. - '''V pondělí porovnám výpis z účtu se seznamem zájemců tady na wiki a od koho tam nebudou peníze budu ho ještě pro jistotu kontaktovat. Pokud se ukáže, že všechno dorazilo tak jak mělo, odešlu peníze Pulsterovi.
Na to jsem se ptal v České Spořitelně, a převod více než 200 000Kč je nutné provést v bance, za co si vyberou 200Kč poplatek, plus 1% z částky za zahraniční převod v EUR, avšak maximálně 1500Kč - což je náš případ, plus ještě poplatky Německé banky protože všechny poplatky půjdou na vrub odesílatele (snad to nebude moc). Tyhle poplatky uhradím z toho, co jsem připočítal k ceně telefonu.

''A je to tu!! Pulster.de nejenom potvrdil cenu, ale také oznámil, že už má telefony skladem (ne však zatím k veřejnému prodeji, ale nám je připravený je odeslat).''

=== Základní informace ===
Jedná se o hromadnou objednávku [[Neo_FreeRunner|Neo FreeRunner]] ([[Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware|hardware]] - GSM, GPS, WiFi, CPU 400MHz, ...; software - [http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/freerunner1.4.swf náhled na připravovanou Qtopii]) do České republiky.
Cena 299€.

Protože se množí na to dotazy, vypíšu co je součástí dodávky a co ne:
*Obdržíme:[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:GTA02ALL.png]
** FreeRunner ;-)
** stylus (pravděpodobně ten s laserem aspol...)
** adaptér
** USB kabel
** 512MB SD card

*Neobdržíme (možno přiobjednat):
** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/d__ompouch__OpenMoko_Freerunner_Pouch786.htm obal] (19€) - navíc 500Kč
** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/index.html?d__omheadset__OpenMoko_Headset785.htm headset] (9€) - navíc 250Kč

Omlouvám se těm, kteří by ještě chtěli přiobjednat některé z příslušenství a už odeslali peníze. Bude bohužel potřeba v případě zájmu odeslat ještě navíc sumu za příslušenství. ''Pokud by byl malý zájem, mohl bych to zaplatit ze zálohy a případný nedoplatek vybrat v hotovosti (platí bohužel jen pro Brno a Zlín).''

=== Postup registrace a objednání ===
<center>'''Platí pro obě větve!'''</center>
Tak jsme na kroku 3!
# Registraci provedete zápisem svého jména a kontaktu do patřičné větve odpovídající místu vašeho osobního převzítí telefonu. Můžete nabídnout distribuci do míst, které ještě nikdo neposkytuje.
# stanovena lehce nadhodnocená částka: 7500Kč za telefon, s debug boardem na 10000Kč na bezpečné pokrytí očekávaných i neočekávaných výdajů spojených s objednávkou
# '''každý zájemce odešle tuto sumu na účet Martina Šenkeříka, identifikuje se svým jménem a příjmením ve zprávě příjemci'''
# jakmile budou peníze nashromážděny, provedu objednávku tolika telefonů, kolik zájemců mi zašle peníze
# po obdržení balíku s telefony se vypočte finální částka za telefon, a případný přeplatek bude vrácen každému osobně při převzetí telefonu (lokální distributoři samozřejmě obdrží patřičný počet telefonů a peněz, aby mohly být předány dále)
# všem se dítko šťastně dopraví do rukou

*[[Talk:GroupSales#Diskuze | Diskuse]]
*[[Talk:GroupSales#Dopl.C5.88uj.C3.ADc.C3.AD_informace | Doplňující informace]]

=== Brno ===

==== Distribuční schéma ====

'''[n]''' FreeRunner
'''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)
'''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč
'''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč
''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více
voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''

<center>'''Status : 23'''</center>

'' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''

*'''Martin Šenkeřík''' - [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]
**'''Brno''':
***'''€ Radek Bartoň''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Blackhex|Contact]]
****'''Frýdek-Místek''':
*****-
***'''€ Pavel Erben''' - [[User:Erby|Kontakt]]
***'''€ Radek Machulka''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Werty|Contact]]
***'''€ Aleš Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Setr|Contact]]
***'''€ Jozef Mlich [2, 1D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/joejoe|Contact]]
***'''Martin Faltičko''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MafRaf|Contact]]
***'''€ Karel Volný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/kavol|Contact]]
***'''€ Martin Nagy [1, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/mnagy|Contact]]
****'''Bratislava''':
*****'''František Horínek''' - [[Special:Emailuser/PipBoy2000|Contact]]
*****'''Martin Vyšný''' [1, 1H, 1O] - [mailto:vysny@baka.sk Contact]
*****'''Tomáš Sirný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Junckritter|Contact]]
*****(€)''' Ján Janech [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Janik|Contact]]
*****'''Ivan Šeďo [1, 1D, 3H, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/ikoframe|Contact]]
******'''SK/Žilina''':
******'''SK/Piešťany''':
***'''€ Tom Varga [H, O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Varg|Contact]]
***'''€ Petr Ondo [2]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Votik|Contact]]
***'''€ Pavel Krátký [1, 1H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MrBobby|Contact]]
**'''Zlín''':
***'''Martin Holec [H, O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Martix|Contact]]
***'''€ Pavel Kovář''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Fox|Contact]]
****'''Ostrava''':
*****'''€ Marian Krucina [D,H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/oak|Contact]]

=== Praha ===

==== Distribuční schéma ====
'''Vzhledem ke jednodušší distribuci půjde balíček do Brna a odtud jej převeze Tomáš Varga.'''

'''[n]''' FreeRunner
'''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)
'''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč
'''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč
''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více
voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''

<center>'''Status : 16'''</center>

'' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''

*'''€ Jan Mareš [2,2H]''' - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:iVir Contact]
**'''Praha''':
***'''€ Martin Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/masca|Contact]]
***'''€ Michal Pěnka [H]''' - [http://michal.penka.name/kontakt Contact]
***'''Jan Černý [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/xcerj01|Contact]]
****'''Kolín''':
***'''Dag Rauer''' - [[Special:Emailuser/drag|Contact]]
***'''€ Miloslav Machotka [O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Machy|Contact]]
***'''€ David Kozub [D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Zub|Contact]] (Kdyby z Prahy seslo, volim Zlin jako fallback.)
***'''€ Milan Vontorčík [HO]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Mvontorcik|Contact]]
***'''Vojtěch Vozáb''' - [mailto:vojtav@centrum.cz Contact]
***'''€ Zdeněk Trávníček [D]''' - [[User:V154c1|Contact]] (Klidne si zajedu i jinam po republice)
***'''€ Milan Šedý [2]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Wortyr|Contact]]
***''' Martin Hinner''' - [mailto:martin@hinner.info Contact]
**'''Písek''':
***(€)''' Luboš Podrázský [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/zsman|Contact]]
***''' Petr Marvan''' - [mailto:petr.marvan1@seznam.cz Contact]

== Slovak Republic ==
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Czech_Republic Spojeno s Czech Republic]

== Croatia ==
Status : 12/10
* w00t - [[Special:Emailuser/W00t|Contact]]
* matija - [[Special:Emailuser/Matija.z|Contact]]
* valajbeg - [[Special:Emailuser/valajbeg|Contact]]
* kost - [[Special:Emailuser/kost|Contact]]
* mnalis - [[Special:Emailuser/mnalis|Contact]]
* tcavrag - [[Special:Emailuser/tcavrag|Contact]]
* slavus - [[Special:Emailuser/slavus|Contact]]
* bsevo - [[Special:Emailuser/bsevo|Contact]]
* amd64 - [[Special:Emailuser/SilverSpace|Contact]]
* v-v - [[Special:Emailuser/v-v|Contact]]
* Lovro - [[Special:Emailuser/Lovro|Contact]]
* Zlotvor - [[Special:Emailuser/zlotvor|Contact]]
(maybe we should make one group for bosnia, croatia & serbia together?) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php/Talk:GroupSales#Croatia the talk page]

== Russia ==
=== Moscow ===
Status : 11/20
* 1x sinister - [[Special:Emailuser/sinister|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) shallburn - [[Special:Emailuser/shallburn|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) vadson - [[Special:Emailuser/vadson|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Tallex - [[Special:Emailuser/Tallex|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) mex3 - [[Special:Emailuser/mex3|Contact]]
* 1x Alexxy (with debug board if possible) - [[Special:Emailuser/Alexxy|Contact]] (Actual location - Saint-Petersburg)
* 1x pva (with debug board if possible) - [[Special:Emailuser/Pva|Contact]] (Moscow if matters)
* 2x (1x [[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced + 1x Base) cbou (Moscow) - [[Special:Emailuser/cbou|Contact]]
* 1x (Base) Buffet - [[Special:Emailuser/Buffet|Contact]]
* 1x homeboy - [[Special:Emailuser/homeboy|Contact]]

=== Saint-Petersburg ===
Status : 7/10
* 2x Nikolay Kasatkin - [[Special:Emailuser/Kainspb|Contact]]
[[Category:Community]]
* 1x (3x?) ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - phone+board) cracatau - [[Special:Emailuser/cracatau|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - phone+board) alexei379 - [[Special:Emailuser/alexei379|Contact]]
* 3x krigstask - [[Special:Emailuser/krigstask|Contact]]

=== Magnitogorsk ===
* 1x Alexandr Smolentsev - [[Special:Emailuser/psychos|Contact]]

== Belarus ==
=== Minsk ===
Status : 1/10
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Const - [[Special:Emailuser/Const|Contact]]
[[Category:Community]]

== Taiwan ==
=== Taipei ===
Status : 3/10

* Cruz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cruz Contact]
* mkl23 @ShinChu [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mkl23 Contact]
* htchien [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/htchien Contact]

== Bahrain ==
Status : 3/10

* Salman [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/smhar Contact]

Group sales

2008-06-27T14:15:22Z

KlaymenDK: /* Copenhagen */

Openmoko have announced a scheme to sell the forthcoming Neo Freerunner at a discount if bought in multiples of 10 (US$369, instead of 399), to be shipped in one package. Group buying will thus save money on the purchase, and on the shipping. This page is to to organise group purchases by region.

For calculating shipping costs, the dimensions of one 10-pack is 435mm x 371mm x 119mm. The weight should be around 3kg.

Steve from Openmoko announced "Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets."
So join us within a local group !

<div style='float:right'>__TOC__</div>

== [[Group Sales Australia| Australia ]]==

== Austria ==
There is a group-buy page at MetaLab, available here: http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko .. we almost have the full 10 slots assigned, and its quite possible that we will order *20* phones, so please register on the Metalab pages and let us know if you're interested ..

=== Salzburg ===
Status: 1/10

* D. Kepplinger (at MetaLab)

=== Wien ===
Status: 2/10
* M. Greifeneder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mikegr Contact me here]
* J. Vaughan (torpor) -- http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/torpor Contact me here]

=== Styria ===
==== Graz ====
Group 1: Status: 10/10

* F Hackenberger [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Deadman66 Contact me here]
* J Florineth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Flojoh Contact me here]
* G Michelitsch [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/graf_ithaka Contact me here]
* R Stoegbuchner [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/stoero Contact me here]
* M Lipp [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Neldoreth Contact me here]
* M Maier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/species Contact me here]
* M Konrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/konni Contact me here]
* K Krammer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krake Contact me here]
* M Prokop [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mika Contact me here]
* C Lauermann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cms Contact me here]

Group 2: Status: 3/10
* S Simmer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/StefanS Contact me here]
* K Holler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kho Contact me here]
* St Stampler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/stst Contact me here]

== Belgium ==
=== Brussels ===
Status 5/10
* npettiaux [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Npettiaux Contact me here]
* jwarnier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jwarnier Contact me here]
* mvanderdonck [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nicodache Contact me here]
* lpirotte [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lpirotte Contact me here]
* Ciaran [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ciaran Contact me here]

=== Flanders ===
==== Aalst/Aarschot/Gent/Brugge ====
Status 7/10
* XVens, mailto: xavier DOT vens AT gmail DOT com
* Arno85, mailto: aaron DOT helin AT gmail DOT com, Kortrijk

* Yvo Brasseur, mailto: yvo_brasseur AT archon DOT be Living in Aarschot, working in Brussels.
* Emmanuel Mathot, mailto: aiieeee DOT gmail DOT com, Brussels
* Kamil Kubacki, mailto: kamil DOT kubacki AT gmail DOT com [or kamil.kubacki@gmail.com]
* 2x Hans Vanpée, mailto: hans AT vanpee DOT be

ps: Dolfje think it will be cheaper to buy it from pulster.de. Can anyone confirm?

Confirmation: From Pulster.eu:

Our sales price is 299 EUR. The idea of "open" is ours. So check our price calculation: if you order the Freerunner from Taiwan, it's 399 USD + 100 USD shipping + c. 90 USD "import taxes" inside Europe. Total 589 USD = c.380 EUR.

So it will be cheaper and we Europeans have 2 years of warranty when buying from Pulster, instead of a 14 days(?) for imported goods.
You can read all advantages on pulster.eu

==== Antwerp ====
Status 10/10

* michielv [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Michielv Contact me here]
* Peter N [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubsy Contact me here]
* Ivo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ivo Contact me here]
* Peter Leemans, mailto: peter AT x-tend DOT be
* Richard B [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/richardb Contact me here]
* Jeroen Van Goey [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BioGeek Contact me here]
* Jeroen D [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jeroendoggen Contact me here]
* Diego Garcia, mailto: didac.garcia AT gmail DOT com
* Sam Geeraerts (Laakdal) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Samgee Contact me here]
* Stefaan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Stefaan Contact me here]

Status 1/10
* Jove [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jove Contact me here] I would like a developer board too.

Perhaps if we have a few more users, we can redistribute the groups geographically?

=== Wallonia ===
==== Walloon Brabant ====
Status: 1/10
* Istvan, mailto: buki DOT istvan AT gmail DOT com

== Bulgaria ==
=== Sofia ===
==== Sofia ====
Status : 7/10

* Dimitar Staykov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OpenMitko Contact]
* Vernim, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vernim Contact]
* Geo, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/geomer Contact]
* Iceman, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ice Contact], 30 May 2008
* jdivanov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jdivanov Contact], 16 June 2008
* luchoh, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/luchoh Contact], 26 June 2008
* nninov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nninov Contact], 26 June 2008

== Canada ==

=== British Columbia ===
Status : 12/10

* Justin (Vancouver): mailto: stryderjzw AT gmail
* Dave (Vancouver) Vancouver Linux users group (unconfirmed but about 7 so far): mailto: doc AT skynet REMOVE dot REMOVE ie
* Steven (Victoria) - If someone in the group will remail the package for me. mailto: skurylo --> gmail dot com
* Morley (Victoria) - If someone in the group will mail to the island. mailto:morleyw@gmail.com
* Robert (Vancouver) - robtaylor <AT> tinsputnik <DOT> com (1 unit)
* Jeff (Vancouver) - jef dot jef gmail com

'''Group 2'''

Status: 3/10

* Ben Cadieux (Abbotsford & Vancouver) - ben [DOT] cadieux <AT> gmail [DOT] com
* Kelvie Wong (Vancouver, in Richmond) - kelvie (over at) ieee (period) org (one)
* Doug (Vancouver) - illusion65 at gmail (1 + debug)

=== Alberta ===
Status : 9/10

* [[User:Wuth|Wuth]] : [mailto:wuth@acm.org]
* [[User:Slm3095om|stacy]] (2 units) : slm3095om AT millions dOt ca
* [[User:Abnormal|Morgan]] : [mailto:lightningperf@hotmail.com]
* [[User:picosrfr|Will]] : [mailto:will.siddall@gmail.com]
* [[User:Dewey|Dewey]] (Calgary) : [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dewey Contact me here]
* [[User:Shadowwolf|Vince]] (Red Deer) : 1 Unit + 1 Debug board [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Shadowwolf Get a hold of me here]
* [[User:Deanb2|Dean]] (Calgary) : [mailto:deanb@gbtn.net]
* [[User:jimb|jim b]] (Edmonton) : [mailto:callonjim@gmail.com][http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jimb mokomail]

=== Ontario/Quebec ===
==== GTA (Toronto) ====
Status : 10/10

* Gerald A [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Historybuff Contact me here]
* MattC, mailto: quirkz AT gmail
* Sergey K, openmoko AT deeptown dOt org
* Daniel Lister, gmail(dan.lister)
* Ronnie Wong: '''3 units''' - r25wong AT ryerson dOT ca
* Paul V [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Roju Contact me here]
* Matt Manjos, matt (AT) manjos * com
* Steven O'Reilly, soreilly AT walled DOT net

Group 2 Status (Hamilton): 6/10

* Gabriel D - ace AT staticwave DOT ca
* Richard D - rtdegelder --> gmail.com
* Steve S - ssinger_pg AT sympatico dot ca
* Wolfram Kahl - kahl McMaster CA
* Paul Wouters - paul@xelerance.com '''1 units'''
* John Hurley - nybble at eml dot cc

Group 3 Status (Montréal): 2/10
* Patrick Hétu - patrick AT koumbit DOT org
* Eric Lebel - lebeleri AT aei DOT ca

== Chile ==
=== Santiago ===
Status : 4/10

* [[User:Mankeke]] Ricardo Manríquez C., mailto: ricardo.manriquez "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
* [[User:XKnightmareX]] Gonzalo Pesenti., mailto: mare.knight1 "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
* [[User:Freyes]] Felipe Reyes., mailto: felipereyes "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
* [[User:crsepulv]] Cristian Sepúlveda, mailto: sepulveda.cristian@gmail.com

== China ==
=== BeiJing ===
Status:10/10
*Luther mailto:lutherluo@qq.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.
*Gnosy mailto:gnosyhh@gmail.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.
*Bin Zong mailto:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com 1 Freerunner MSN:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com
*Lee zaixin mailto:shqlzx@126.com 1 Freerunner 
*Zhuwei mailto:grissom_zhu@139.com MSN:wyh0310@hotmail.com 1 Freerunner 
*zhaojun mailto:zhaojun1631@163.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug board
*Benoit Begue mailto:snk4ever@gmail.com 1 freerunner
*Tristan mailto:0x5478(at)gmail.com MSN:liu_bei_bei(at)hotmail.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.
*Lalo mailto:lalo.martins@gmail.com 1 freerunner
*Lu Kuo Email and MSN: koreylu#hotmail.com (substitute @ for # please) 1 freerunner and 1 debug board

Status:1/10
*Hong Zhiyi mailto: zhiyi.hong@gmail.com 1 freerunner

=== ShangHai ===
Status:3/10
 
* Pajda, info on my [[User:Pajda|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Pajda|contact me here]]. 1 x freerunner
* ChandleWEi mailto:chandle.wei@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board
* YxunLan mailto:dennis.yxun@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board

=== Guangzhou ===
Status:1/10
*Geoffrey mailto:dghfalcon@gmail.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug borad.

== Colombia ==
=== Bogotá ===
Status: 2/10
* Javier Rojas. Phone and debug board. mailto:jerojasro@gmail.com 
* Gustavo Andrés Angulo. Phone and debug board. mailto:woakas@gmail.com 

== Denmark ==
If we do not reach a total large enough, Denmark **is** a very small place - surely we could figure out a way of getting them to find their way 'round the country :)

=== Jutland ===
==== Aalborg ====
Status: 7/10

Should anyone need it, transportation from Aalborg to Thisted for phones can be arranged, if you don't want to pick it up in Aalborg yourself :) ~leinir

As it looks right now, it seems that it would be cheaper and easier for us to buy through Pulster in Germany - see the following email: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017778.html ~leinir

* Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen mailto:admin@leinir.dk [[User:Leinir]]
* Fabian Olesen mailto:firewalkerx@gmail.com
* Helge Willum Larsen mailto:helge.at.helges.dk
* Kristian Lindemann Larsen (2 stk) mailto:walker@pandia.dk
* Brian Olsen mailto:downloader@pandia.dk
* Henrik Odder Jensen mailto:herakles@pandia.dk

==== Aarhus ====
Status: 3/10

* Kent S. Knudsen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Forestmountain contact me here] - [[User:Forestmountain]] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)
* Lars Jensen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/el_senator contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)
* Martin Pedersen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cheeses contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)

==== Skjern ====
Status: 1/10

* [[User:Carlo]]

==== Sønderborg ====
Status: 1/10

* Theis Hjorth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Theis.hjorth contact me here] (1 phone + 1 devkit) 

=== Fyn ===
Status: 5/10
(Unnless others join Esben and Peter will join the Copenhagen order and Peter will pick up the phones for Fyn in Copenhagen)

* [[User:EsbenDamgaard]] (need 3 (Looney & Gert))
* [[User:apm]] (need 1 with invoice - can pick up in Copenhagen)
* [[User:LarsOPoulsen | Lars Poulsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LarsOPoulsen (contact)] (1 phone)

=== Sjælland ===
==== Copenhagen ====
Status: 34/10 (39 including the 5 for Fyn - see above)

* [[User:jrcarlsen | Johnny Rose Carlsen]] (+45) 28 14 60 04 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jrcarlsen (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:Fursund]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fursund (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:tabac | Thomas Ammitzbøll-Bach ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tabac (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:chel | Christian E. Lysel ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chel (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:UlrikRasmussen | Ulrik Rasmussen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/UlrikRasmussen (contact)] (1)
* [[User:KlaymenDK | Jan Gundtofte-Bruun]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KlaymenDK (contact)]
* [[User:OleTange | Ole Tange]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OleTange (contact)] (I need 14 with invoice)
* [[User:Pascal | Pascal d'Hermilly]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pascal (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice)
* [[User:maha | Martin Hansen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/maha (contact)] (3 with invoice)
* [[User:SvenneK | Svenne Krap ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/SvenneK (contact)] (1+devkit with invoice)
* [[User:bss | Bo Stendal Sørensen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bss (contact)] (1)
* [[User:Glenn | Glenn Møller-Holst]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Glenn (contact)] (2 freerunners + debug board, +invoice)
* [[User:knmeister | Kristian Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/knmeister (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice)
* [[User:hammerfar | Henrik Hammer Berthelsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hammerfar (contact)] (2 with invoice)
* [[User:Bubbi | Steen Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubbi (contact)] (2 with invoice)

== Estonia ==
=== Tallinn ===
Let's see if we can get ten people together for this. I'm willing to organise the local distribution if we can. Spread the word and try to get more locals interested in it. [[User:Yogiz|Yogiz]] 08:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Status 2/10

* [[User:Yogiz | Yogiz]] ([mailto:yogizz@gmail.com contact]) 1 phone
* [[User:Zooter | Zooter]] ([mailto:zooter@hot.ee contact]) 1 phone

== Finland ==
=== Uusimaa ===
Note to gta02v6 waiting people:"The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT
LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption". So, no problem? Also a quote from [[Neo FreeRunner GTA02 Hardware#GTA02v6]]: "Capacitor and resistor change A6 also on mass production A5".

==== Helsinki I (Full)====
Status : 10/10

* Mikko Rauhala x2 [mailto:mjr@iki.fi mjr@iki.fi]
* Aleksi Hankalahti [mailto:aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi]
* Seppo Hätönen [mailto:karrde@iki.fi karrde@iki.fi]
* Arttu Sund thearttu AT gmail DOT com
* Ville-Pekka Vainio vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi
* Heikki Hallamaa [mailto:heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi]
* Tomi Jylhä-Ollila tomi.jylha-ollila@helsinki.fi
* Richard Braakman
* Timo Jyrinki [mailto:timo.jyrinki@iki.fi timo.jyrinki@iki.fi]

==== Helsinki II, Turku & Vaasa====

[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Rhk DISCUSS HERE]

Tilauksen saa ottaa hoitaakseen kuka tahansa tilaajista, rhk ei ole ainakaan vielä sitoutunut hoitamaan!

Jos tätä & lapin tilausta ei saada täyteen voinee Lapin ryhmästä siirtyä osa tähän tilaukseen?

Status : 7/10

Helsinki:

* Risto H. Kurppa risto AT kurppa DOT fi
* Aapo Rantalainen aapo DOT rantalainen AT gmail DOT com
* Matti Laakso matti DOT laakso AT kotiposti DOT net
* Ilari Oras ilari DOT oras AT welho DOT com
* Jussi Kekkonen tmt AT ubuntu DOT com

Turku:

* Jaakko Lehtinen, jaakko dot lehtinen at gmail dot com

Vaasa:

* Mikko Niemikorpi, mikefulli ÄT gmail PISTE com

=== Lappi ===
==== Kemi ====
Status : 3/10

'''[[User:Cg|Discuss the order here]]'''

Kemi:
* Henri Valta henri PISTE valta ÄT kemi PISTE fi
* Tommi Juvonen tassi ÄT mediapumppu PISTE info
* Jaakko Pörhö ensteinfrank ÄT hotmail PISTE com

== France ==
=== Bretagne ===
==== Brest ====
Status : 1/10

* StevenLeRoux [mailto:steven@pourri.fr steven@pourri.fr] Jabber_Id:Steven@jabber.fr
* Acheteur potentiel #2

==== Rennes ====
Status : 3/10

* Cédric DUFOUIL (openmoko at tsleg point com)
* Yves MAHE (ymahe at zindep dot com)
* Guillaume BERTHELOM (yogui29 at gmail dot com)

=== Pays de la Loire ===
==== La Roche sur Yon ====
Status : 1/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vtouchar Vincent Touchard]

==== Nantes ====
Status : 2/10
* [[User:Yoann|Yoann ARNAUD]]. OK for a ship in Rennes if needed. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Yoann Contact me here]
* [[User:sim51|Benoît SIMARD]]. Idem [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sim51 Contact me here]

=== Nord ===

=== Ile de france ===
==== Paris ====
Status : 23/30

* StevenLeRoux
* <s>[[User:Phyce|Phyce]]</s> (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')
* Yann SLADEK ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Maveryck Contact me here])
* [[User:Wilk|Wilk]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wilk Contact me here]
* Jonathan Magano ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JonathanMM Contact me here])
* Benjamin Renard (bn8[AT]zionetrix.net)
* [[User:OlivierBerger|OlivierBerger]]
* [[User:BartGS|BartGS]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BartGS Contact me here]
* [[User:rcoscali|Rémi Cohen-Scali]]
* <s>[[User:Valos|Valéry Febvre]]</s> (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')
* <s>[[User:Manou|Emmanuel Raviart]]</s> (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')
* Le Troll Farceur ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LeTrollFarceur Contact me here])
* [[User:mshook|Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer]]
* [[User:LoicMinier|Loïc Minier]]
* [[User:chansen|Cyril Hansen]]
* [[User:hbernard|hugues]]
* Titilambert ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/titilambert Contact me here])
* [[User:Raphux|Raphux]]([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Raphux Contact me here])
* [[User:tuXXX|Damien Thébault]] (Contact me [[User:tuXXX|here]] or [[Special:Emailuser/tuXXX|here]])
* [[User:kkum|Kumar]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/kkum|here]])
* Gand' ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gand' Contact me here])
* [[User:Sporniket|David SPORN]]
* [[User:Bedo|Bedo]]
* [[User:Ainulindale|Julien Cassignol]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/Ainulindale|here]])
* [[User:Theocrite|Theocrite]]
* [[User:Gui82|Gui82]]
You may also see :
http://bearstech.com/shop

=== Lorraine ===
==== Nancy ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:mosan|Nicolas Salles]]

=== Rhône-Alpes ===
==== Lyon ====
Status : 2/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/patou Vincent MEURISSE]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pini Gilles FILIPPINI]

==== Grenoble ====
Status : 4/10

* <s>[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbollard Philippe]</s> (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aurelien Aurelien]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Hey_popey Damien]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/swap38 Johann]

=== Alpes de Haute Provence ===
==== Manosque ====
Status : 1/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cfdev Cyril]

=== Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur ===
==== Sophia Antipolis ====
Status : 4/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nico.inc Nicolas HUOT]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xavier_OM Xavier CREMASCHI]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasile Vasile Jureschi]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Herve5 Hervé Sainct]

=== Midi-Pyrénées ===
==== Toulouse ====

Status: 2/10

* [[Special:Emailuser/Ortalo|Ortalo]]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Micktaiwan Mickael Faivre-Maçon]

== Germany ==
=== Baden-Württemberg ===
==== Karlsruhe ====

* [[Special:Emailuser/Spacemarine|Spacemarine]] 2 Freerunner. -- I'm managing the communication between the groupbuyers, so please contact me if you are interested and haven't received an email from me yet. We will meet at the Kalug Meeting http://www.karlsruhe.linux.de/ on 26. 5. 2008 to discuss things further.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Dr.Nop|Dr.Nop]] (inzw. Ludwigsburg, falls es sich anbietet könnte ich auch zur Leonberger Gruppe wechseln)
* [[Special:Emailuser/JensB|JensB]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Tedo|Tedo]]

* [[Special:Emailuser/Gromgull|Gromgull]] (in Kaiserslautern, but Karlsruhe is close enough, and I doubt that I'll find 10 people here.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Ebi|Ebi]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/RIdd3r|Fabian]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Gollum|Gollum]] in Mannheim, ditto :) Maybe local postal service is an option?
* [[Special:Emailuser/Archimedes|Sebastian]] (in Kaiserslautern on workdays and Daun/Eifel during the weekend)
* [[Special:Emailuser/Roduit|Roduit]] In Heidelberg. Karlsruhe is close enough.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Cfo|cfo]] Karlsruhe
* [[Special:Emailuser/Adonres|Adonres]] Karlsruhe - Hope I'm not too late.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Nomeata|Nomeata]] is interested
* [[Special:Emailuser/BlackFog|BlackFog]] joins in

==== Leonberg ====
Status 10/10
* [[Special:Emailuser/ZaPPaS|ZaPPaS]] about 8 Freerunners.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Cc|Cc]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Agon|Agon]] Maybe 1 Freerunner.

==== Tübingen ====
Status 7/10
* [[Special:Emailuser/MiTo|MiTo]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/NoBody|NoBody]] close to tuebingen and stuttgart (between both)
* [[Special:Emailuser/eliasp|eliasp]] (3 Freerunner (me, qknight + sbock) - Tübingen downtown
* [[Special:Emailuser/nobs|nobs]] thinking about buying one; if I am #10, count me in; if there is someone else #11 you can drop me
* [[Special:Emailuser/marjay|marjay]] take also one (Dettingen/Erms)

==== Ulm ====
Status: 2/10
* [[Special:Emailuser/mzanetti|mzanetti]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Lord_Evil|Lord_Evil]] ich nehm auch eins. Evtl. kann ich mich auch an Augsburg anhängen.

=== Bayern ===

==== Augsburg ====

Status 5/10
I just want to see if there are enough people to fill up to ten. So add your name here if you are interested.

*[[Special:Emailuser/Whoever|whoever]] - Ich nehm eins, wenn die Münchner keines übrig haben.
*[[Special:Emailuser/paddy2706|paddy2706]] - Ein OpenMoko bitte :)
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*[[Special:Emailuser/Nightmare|Nightmare]] - Ich will es doch lieber beim Händler kaufen mit voller Garantie (pulster.de bietet es für 299 Euro an)

Wann werden die dann bestellt/gezahlt? Dauert bei mir no kurz bis ichs Geld für zusammen hab aber dann nehm ich eins.
MfG [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MookiE MookiE]

Hallo, ich würde mich für einen Freerunner interessieren. Wie sieht es mit Zoll aus? Kommt der noch dazu?
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Murks Murks]

$3690 (10 Freerunner)
+ $ 160 (Versand lt. Australiern)
=======
$3850

$3850
+ $ 732 (19% Einfuhrumsatzsteuer)
+ $ 0 (kein Zoll für Handys)
=======
$4582

$458 / 1,5$/€ = 305 € pro Telefon (als Richtwert)

==== München ====

Wir suchen noch einen Organisator für die Bestellung! Weiß jemand, was man so alles beachten muss?

'''Diskussion auf der [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup Seite]]!'''

Hilf mit, eine [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup]] aufzubauen!

Status 14/20

* [[Special:Emailuser/Imitation|Imitation]] 30 April 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/meyerm|meyerm]] 16:25 CEST, 01. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/Koebi|koebi]] 05. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/wof|wof]] (2) 07. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/floe|floe]] 10. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/mathew muc|mathew muc]] 12. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/einalex|einalex]] 13. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/smurfy|smurfy]] 18. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/Whoever|whoever]] 02. Juni 2008 (München oder Augsburg, ich mach bei der Gruppe mit, die mir als erste ein Freerunner "garantiert")
* [[Special:Emailuser/Beni|Beni]] 05. Juni 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/Nosyjoe|Nosyjoe]] 08. Juni 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/peter_b|peter_b]] needs 2 Freerunner 16. Juni 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/calestyo|Cálestyo]] 2008-06-23
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* [[Special:Emailuser/Eriks|Eriks]] Unfortunately I have to sign me off. So somebody else has to arrange it. I'm really sorry about that. :-(

=== Berlin===
==== Berlin ====

Help to form a [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Berlin|Berlin User Group]]!

Status 15/20
* Stephan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Fischel Contact me here]
* Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Thebohemian Contact me here]
* Nico [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Nico Contact me here]
* Bastian [[User:Fries43]]
* Sven-Ola [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Sven-ola Contact]
* Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:arnepp Contact me here]
* MM [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:MM Contact]
* Keks [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Keksdosenmann Contact]
* Matthias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:mk Contact]
* Norbert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Noha Contact]
* Joscha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Joka Contact]
* Janne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Janne Contact]
* Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Robx Contact]
* Conrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Caribu Contact me here]
* govindas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:govindas Contact me here]

=== Bremen ===
==== Bremen ====
Status 3/10
* Gero Mudersbach [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gero Contact me here]
* Hartje Bruns [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrBurns Contact me here]
* Timo Scheffler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Faldrian Contact me here]

==== Bremerhaven ====

=== Hamburg ===
==== Hamburg ====
Status 9-10

* Jan 4-5[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jan07 Contact me here]
* Varacanero [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/varacanero Contact me here]
* Ole 3-5 pcs [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Olemoko Contact me here]
* Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/GuraX Contact me here]
* Arne.anka 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Arne.anka Contact me here]
* Wasili Goutas 1pc + debug adapter [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Laki Contact me here]
* mimbeck 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mimbeck Contact me here]
* savi 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savi Contact me here]

=== Hessen ===
==== Frankfurt ====
Status 1-10

* Blacky [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Blacky Contact me here]

=== Niedersachsen===
==== Hannover====
Status 2/10

* Dattel83 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dattel83 Contact me here]
* [[User:Ditto|Ditto]] contact me via [[Special:Emailuser/Ditto|e-mail form]] (If we don't get enough orders maybe we should join with [[GroupSales#Bielefeld|Bielefeld]] or another town close by)

=== NRW ===
==== Aachen ====
Status 4/10
* Henrik, infos on my [[User:Henrikz|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Henrikz|contact me here]]
* David, infos on my [[User:TechnoFan|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/TechnoFan|contact me here]]
* Stephan, infos on my [[User:chaq|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/chaq|contact me here]]
* Michael, infos on my [[User:knut|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/knut|contact me here]]

==== Bielefeld ====
Status 4/10

* David, infos on my [[User:Raven|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Raven|contact me here]]
* Sebastian, infos on my [[User:Seppi|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Seppi|contact me here]]
* Dackel, infos on my [[User:Killerdackel|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Killerdackel|contact me here]]
* Conny
* Arndt, infos on my [[User:Arndot|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Arndot|contact me here]]

==== Bocholt ====
===== (Fachhochschule in Bocholt) =====
* 1 x adslex
* 1 x dg [[Special:Emailuser/dg|contact me here]]

==== Düsseldorf ====
* mac2k, infos on my [[User:mac2k|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/mac2k|contact me here]]

=== Sachsen-Anhalt ===
==== Stendal (evtl. Magdeburg) ====
Status 1/10

* Fabian Off [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fabian2de Contact me here]

=== Thueringen ===
==== Weimar ====
Status 1/10

* [[User:Fries43]]

==== Ilmenau ====
Status 1/10

* [[User:KimKiesel]]

=== Sachsen ===
Eventuell sollten wir eine gemeinsame Bestellung für ganz Sachsen machen, damit wir auf ausreichend Leute kommen.

==== Chemnitz ====
Status 2/10

* Tobias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tobydox Contact me here]
* Michael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/her Contact me here]
==== Dresden ====
Status 1/10

* Martin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nodge Contact me here]

==== Leipzig ====
Status 4/10

* Natanael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/white_gecko Contact me here] (+2)
* Micha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Adian Contact me here]

== Hungary ==
Good to know:
*discussion here: http://hup.hu/node/54588
*mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-groupsales-hungary
*group ordering coordinator: Dániel Vásárhelyi (see below) - please contact me on any questions

ordering rules:
* anyone can add and remove him/herself on the list - new names MUST be _appended_ to the list
* please use real name and working e-mail address
* although this list is informative, please extend it _only_ if you are really serious about ordering it
* coordinator contacts everyone interested prior to actual buying

=== Budapest ===

# Ferenc 'Lion' Veres [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kempelen Contact] lion kukac netngine pont hu
# Laszlo 'rka' Szabo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rka Contact]
# tg [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tg?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Contact]
# LiRul - lirul [KUKAC] hixsplit [PONT] hu
# Nyosigomboc - nyos [KUKAC] nyos [PONT] homelinux [PONT] net
# Ludvig Adam - hunludvig [KUKAC] gmail [PONT] com
# [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asdmin?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Dániel 'asd' Vásárhelyi]
# btamas, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/btamas Contact]
# Kovács 'ka87' András, andras [kukac] csevego [pont] net
# pcm, pcm [kukac] freemail [pont] hu
# Geza Piros, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gpiros Contact]
# Áron Preisinger, appa00 [kukac] gmail [pont] com [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/appa Contact]
# pierre286, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pierre286 Contact]
# Hélei Zoltán, heleiz [kukac] gmail
# Radics Áron, raron @ vipmail . hu
# Laszlo Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]
# tr3w [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tr3w Contact]
# Ferenc Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]
# Bolyóczki Zsombor, mogorva kukac tuxworx pont hu
# Sütő Zoltán, suto dot zoltan at t dash online dot hu
# Zsolt Pittmann, pittmann dot zsolt at gmail dot com
# KREKACS Laszlo, laszlo {pont} krekacs {pont} list {kukacka} gmail {pont} com
# Móker Tamás - rwind [KUKAC] apacheweb [PONT] hu
# Krisztián Kovács, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Krisztian Contact]
# Tamas Michalik, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dotmind Contact]
# Peter Roosz, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rope Contact]
# Eduard Iacoboaia, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Polaru Contact]
# László Vadász, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lvadasz Contact]
# Attila Lendvai, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/attila.lendvai Contact]
# Thomas Otterbein [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tommi Contact]

=== Kecskemét ===
Dániel Vásárhelyi handles transportation to Kecskemét, therefore it is not necessary to collect 10 all pieces here.

== India ==
=== Bangalore ===
Status 1/10
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sh4r4d sharad]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gadiyar Anand Gadiyar]

=== Delhi/NCR ===
Status 2/10
* Sameer Mohamed Thahir [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sameerthahir Contact]
* Pratul Kalia (lut4rp) ''pratulkalia [at] gmail [dot] com''

== Italy ==
For more informations and to organize groups, visit the
*[http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''''Italian Freerunner Group Sales Google Group'''''] (ML/Web/Feeds) ([mailto:freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com]).

'''BUT please keep adding your name and email to the list below'''

If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the "most requested city", and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the "double-shipping". ([http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/10937/focus=10981 Read here for reference]).

=== Toscana ===
==== Firenze (e dintorni) ====
Status 12/10

'''''[[GroupSales/Firenze|Wiki organizzativo]]'''''

* [[User:Treviño|Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]] - [http://blog.3v1n0.net/contatti-trevino/ Contacts here]
* [[User:Niccolo|Niccolo Rigacci]] - ''niccolo [AT] rigacci.org''
* [[User:pcav|Paolo Cavallini]] - ''cavallini [AT] faunalia.it''
* [[User:BiggMatt|Mattia Gentile]] - ''biggmatt@hotmail.it''
* Elisa ''[mailto:lab@kkk.it lab@kkk.it]'' (Empoli)
* [[User:Sugacapra|Sugacapra]] - ''alessio.chemeri [AT] gmail.com''
* [[User:tom_morello|Carlo Ascani (Morello)]] - ''carlo.ratm [AT] gmail.com''
* [[User:marrano|Stefano Burchietti (Marrano)]] - ''stefano [AT] nontelodiromai.it''
* [[User:Geli86|Matteo Gelimeri X 2 (Imola - Bologna)]] - ''gelimatteo [AT] gmail.com''
* [[User:dcoppa|David Coppa (Borgo a Buggiano, Pistoia)]] - ''dcoppa@gmail.com''
* [[User:Panthack|Dario Panthack Pantani (Pontedera - Pisa)]] - ''panthack2 [AT] tiscali.it''

=== Lombardia ===

==== Milano e dintorni ====
Status 23/30

[[GroupSales_Milano_e_dintorni|Organizzazione preliminare]] DEPRECATA lì 11 Maggio 2008.

Da ora in poi usiamo il [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''].

Ad ogni modo, per stabilire le precedenze nella prenotazione dei pacchi da 10 pezzi 
'''continuate ad aggiugerVi nella lista qui sotto'''

*'''Gruppo 1'''
*# Marcello Gorla [mailto:marcello.gorla@gmail.com Contacts here] (Milano città)
*# Maxxer [mailto:maxxer@yetopen.it maxxer@yetopen.it] (Lecco)
*# Pietro Montorfano [mailto:monto84@gmail.com monto84@gmail.com] (from como)
*# Gianluigi Belli - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pulciux Contacts here] (Milano)
*# Michele Castellano - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mubumba Contacts here] (Milano)
*# Maurizio Lipreri - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Maldido Contacts here]( Como )
*# Guido Conaldi - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/skepz Contacts here] (Varese)
*# [[User:Furester|Igor Scabini (furester)]] - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Furester Contacts here] (Milano)
*# Dario Panico [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dareus Contacts here] (Busto Arsizio, VA)
*# Marco Zanzotera (Milano città)

*'''Gruppo 2'''
*# Francesco Ricci (Milano, Dipartimento di Scienze dell'Informazione, via Comelico 39/41) - possibile punto di ricezione/distribuzione - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Alfa21 Contacts here]
*# Federico Belvisi - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Armalite Contacts here] (Legnano, MI/Varese)
*# Francesco Leserri - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Francy Contacts here] (Vimercate, MI)
*# [[User:Pietrao| Pietro Isotti]] - [mailto:isottipietro@gmail.com isottipietro@gmail.com]
*# Baz - [mailto:buzzi.paolo@gmail.com buzzi.paolo@gmail.com]
*# Mario Signorino ('''2 unità''') ([[User:Dodiesis|Dodiesis]])- [mailto:mario@sgrunt.net mario@sgrunt.net] (Milano - possibile punto di ricezione alternativo )
*# [[user:Stemby|Carlo Stemberger]] (Stemby) - '''carlo'''dot'''stemberger'''at'''gmail'''dot'''com''' (Missaglia, LC)
*# Marco Crobu - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tron.tron Contacts here] (Zogno, BG)
*# Maurizio [[User:Trizio!|"Trizio!"]] Ciceri (Novara)

*Gruppo 3 - incompleto
*# Gianluca [mailto:cimi.luca@gmail.com Contacts here] (Lugano-CH)
*# Jacopo [mailto:jacopo.anselmi@gmail.com] (Milano Citta')
*# david josè giovannini (green.riot AT gmail DOT com) [Arona - Lake Major]

=== Piemonte ===
==== Torino (and province) ====
Status 10/10

Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Torino)

Precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale 
*'''Gruppo 1''' (prime persone a fare l'ordine): 
1 x Claudio Carnino (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Alessandro Degano (a.degano AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Enrico Pigozzi (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here] 
1 x Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com) 
1 x Riccardo Issoglio (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it) 
1 x Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here] 
1 x Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it ) 
2 x Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!! 
 
*'''Gruppo 2''' (coloro che non ci stanno nel primo gruppo o che vogliono aspettare che il primo gruppo abbia ricevuto il telefono): 
1 x Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com ) 
1 x Marco Forasacco (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Gabriele Martino (pierino DOT the DOT living DOT joke AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Massimo Valerio (my AT massimovalerio DOT it) 
... 
(aggiungersi chi è nuovo) 
 

-------------------------------------
LISTA ORIGINALE (24/05/08 14:48):
* Claudio Carnino (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)
* Alessandro Degano (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)
* Enrico Pigozzi (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)
* Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here]
* Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)
* Riccardo Issoglio (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)
* Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here]
* Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )
* Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!
* Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com )
* Marco Forasacco (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)
* Gabriele Martino (pierino DOT the DOT living DOT joke AT gmail DOT com)
* Massimo Valerio (my AT massimovalerio DOT it)
--------------------------------------

=== Trentino-Alto Adige ===
==== Trento ====
Status 3/10

* Vincenzo D'Andrea (vincenzo.dandrea AT gmail DOT com) (also Verona is OK - and I can carry others' phone VR to TN or viceversa)
* Emanuele Olivetti (emanuele CHIOCCIOLA relativita PUNTO com)
* Marco Ciampa (ciampix (*) libero (*) it)

=== Friuli Venezia Giulia ===
==== Trieste ====
Status: 1/10

* dorje [mailto:dorje@libero.it dorje@libero.it] - [[User:dorje|dorje]]

=== Veneto ===
Status: 14/20

==== Verona ====

* Persegat [mailto:persegat@alice.it persegat@alice.it] - [[User:Pecce|Pecce]]
* Sylar91 [mailto:sylar1991@gmail.com sylar1991@gmail.com] - [[User:Sylar91|Sylar91]]
* Marco Franceschetti - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vonfritz Contacts here]
* AleksFalcone [mailto:aleks.falcone@gmail.com aleks.falcone@gmail.com] - [[User:AleksFalcone|AleksFalcone]]
* Roberto Previdi [mailto:hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com] - [[User:hariseldon78|hariseldon78]] (also Milano is ok)

==== Vicenza ====

* Michele [mailto:michele@cooperativabiosphaera.it michele(at)cooperativabiosphaera.it] - Also Padova is okay.

* Paolo [mailto:paolo.sartore@gmail.com paolo.sartore(at)gmail.com] Also Padova is okay.

* Renato [mailto:wasgiventofly@gmail.com wasgiventofly AT gmail DOT com] 

* Sandro [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vigerty contact me here] Also Padova is okay.

* Marco [mailto:marco.napetti@linux.it marco.napetti(at)linux.it] Also Padova and Verona are ok.

==== Venezia ====

* Tommaso [mailto:tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com] - [[User:Tobarello|Tobarello]] Also Padova, Vicenza & Trento are ok.

==== Treviso ====

* Dario [mailto:aliasbrain@gmail.com aliasbrain(at)gmail.com] - [[User:Rastafan|Rastafan]] one, maybe two.

* Pedro [mailto:paguilar@junkerhq.net paguilar(at)junkerhq.net] - [[User:Paguilar|Paguilar]] Also Padova and Vicenza are ok.

* mr [mailto:maurizio.rottin@gmail.com maurizio.rottin a-t gmail d-o-t com] - [[User:Mr|Mr]] one for sure, maybe two

=== Emilia Romagna ===
Status : 6/10
==== Parma ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Delian|Marco Albanese]] [mailto:delian2@gmail.com delian2@gmail.com] For Me, it's ok for the decentralized shipment ( Milano for example :) ).

* [[User:Hachreak|Leonardo Rossi]] ssj3gokou AT libero Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.

==== Ravenna ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Fano|Stefano Ronconi]] fanharlok AT libero Dot it decentralized shipping is ok.
* vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...). ( se ti vanno bene ambo le citta' basta dirlo tra parentesi. Cosi', si fa confusione :) )

==== Bologna ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:nixy_999|Lorenzo]] nixy_999 AT yahoo Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.
* vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...).
* [[User:lord.of.the.dimm|Mauro]] lord.of.the.dimm AT gmail DOT com decentralized shipping: OK.

=== Puglia ===
==== Lecce ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Morpheus90|Morpheus90]] [mailto:ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com]
* [[User:Italyanker|italyanker]] [mailto:italyanker@gmail.com italyanker@gmail.com]

==== Bari ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Fradeve11|Fradeve11]] [mailto:fradeve@ubuntu-it.org fradeve@ubuntu-it.org]

=== Abruzzo ===
==== Pescara ====
Status: 1/10

* ZarZ [mailto:zarz25@gmail.com zarz25@gmail.com]

=== Campania ===
==== Caserta (and province) ====
Status 1/10

* fenoxxx [mailto:fenoxxx@gmail.com] - Aversa

=== Lazio ===
==== Roma ====
Status 10/10

Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Roma)

La precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale 

Gruppo 1 (incompleto): 

* Hire X 2 [mailto:hiretto@gmail.com hiretto@gmail.com] (Roma)
* Darkbasic X 1 [mailto:darkbasic4(at)gmail darkbasic4(at)gmail] (Ancona)
* zione X 1 [mailto:alessio.filipponio@gmail.com alessio.filipponio@gmail.com](Roma)
* AntoMan X 1 [mailto:obe_65@yahoo.it AntoMan](Roma)
* Christian X 1(Gino46) [mailto:christian.marzola@alice.it] (ferrara) Qualcuno me lo dovrebbe spedire. || Ci pensa Hire a spedirli a chi non è di Roma, mettete semplicemente in conto 8/9 euro in più per la spedizione.
* Tempix X 1 [mailto:tempix11@gmail.com tempix11@gmail.com] (Ancona)
* 6xsempre X 1 [mailto:6xsempre@jumpy.it] (frosinone)
* lynx1673 X1 [mailto: acarfi at yahoo dot com] - lynx sei di Roma?
* zullinux X1 [mailto: francesco dot zuliani at gmail dot com] (Roma)

=== Liguria ===
==== Genova ====
Status 5/10

* Luca Maranzano X 1 (liuk AT linux DOT it) [[User:liuk|liuk]]
* Lorenzo Fornara X 1 (fw1987 AT hotmail DOT it)
* Stefano Cutelle' X 1 (staff@ascservices.it) [[User:ascservices|ascservices]]
* Andrea De Gaetano X 1 (dega1999 AT gmail DOT com) [[User:Dega1999|Dega1999]]
* Salvo Schiavone X 1 (salvoschiavone AT gmail DOT com [[User:Salvador|Salvador]]

=== Sicilia ===
==== Palermo ====
Status 10/10

* Giorgio Marciano' X 1 [mailto:giorgio.marciano@email.it giorgio]
* Michele Puccio X 1 [mailto:narkos@iol.it michele]
* Roberto Calandra X 1 [mailto:isokazi@yahoo.it roberto]
* Vincenzo Moreno Luna X 6 [mailto:ciop85plus@hotmail.com vincenzo]
* Daniele Lupo X 1 [mailto:danwolf80@libero.it daniele]

==== Messina ====
Status 6/10

* Melug X 6 [mailto:suuuper@messinalug.org MeLug]

=== Calabria ===
Status 2/10

==== Catanzaro ====
* Carlo Mangani X 1 [mailto:carlo.mangani@gmail.com carlo.mangani@gmail.com] - Lamezia Terme

==== Cosenza ====
* Francesco Portus X 1 [mailto:portusgraphics@gmail.com portusgraphics@gmail.com] - Bisignano (Cosenza)

=== Sardegna ===
==== Cagliari ====
Status 1/10

* Panta x 1 [[User:Panta]]
Viaggio per tutta l'Isola, per cui, nel caso in cui arrivassimo a 10 utenti...

== Macedonia ==
=== Skopje ===
Status 1/10
* Kristijan Krsteski 1/10 [[User:neutrino]] [mailto:kristijan.krsteski@gmail.com]

== México ==
=== Ciudad de México ===
Status 1/10

* Kozapatista [[Special:Emailuser/User:kozapatista|Contact]]

=== Ciudad Victoria ===
Status 3/10

* 3x Gregorio Toscano [mailto:gtoscano@cinvestav.mx email]

== [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands The Netherlands] ==
(Discuss this group sale on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands talk page])

* Marijn Kruisselbrink 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mkruisselbrink|Contact]]
* Andy Powell 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ScaredyCat|Contact]]
* Arjan Veenstra 1/10 [[User:AVee]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:AVee|Contact]]

=== Gelderland ===

==== Nijmegen ====
* [[User:Blalien|Danny Bouwman]] (Ewijk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Blalien|Contact]]

==== Nijkerk ====
* [[User:Nicolas|Nico Veenkamp]] (Nijkerk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Nicolas|Contact]]

==== Nijmegen ====
* [[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] (Nijmegen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:A.dre|Contact]]

=== Groningen ===

==== Haren ====
* [[User:akrabbe|Albert Krabbe]] (Haren 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:akrabbe|Contact]]

=== Limburg ===

==== Griendtsveen ====
* [[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] (Griendtsveen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:KenSentMe|Contact]]

=== Noord-Brabant ===

==== Bergen op Zoom ====
* [[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Madjo|Contact]]

==== Eindhoven ====
* Christ van Willegen 1 [[User:ChristW]]
* Jan van Nijnatten 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Javany|Contact]]
* Atilla Filiz 1 + debug board[[Special:Emailuser/User:Atilla|Contact]]

=== Noord Holland ===

==== Amsterdam ====
* Michel van Horssen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mivaho|Contact]]
* Frank Richter 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:res|Contact]]
* Eric Smith 1/10 [[User:Eric Smith]]
* Buddy Baars 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Budster|Contact]]

==== Beverwijk ====
* Theo Martens 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:T_M|Contact]]

==== Bussum ====
* Remco van Zuijlen 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:Remco|Contact]]

=== Overijssel ===

==== Deventer ====
* Jan de Haan 1/10 [[User:Jan de Haan]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:Jan de Haan|Contact]]

==== Enschede ====
* Peter Hageman 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:PingPong|Contact]]

==== Hengelo ====
* Sander Hoentjen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Tjikkun|Contact]]

==== Zwolle ====
* Boudewijn 1/10 [[User:Boudewijn|empty user page]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:Boudewijn|Contact]]; possibly got a second person interested

=== Zuid-Holland ===

==== Rijswijk ====
* Fernando Martins 1x [[User:fmartins]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:fmartins|Contact]]
* Igor 1x [[User:igorn]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:igorn|Contact]]

==== Zoetermeer ====
* S.Rademaker 1x [[User:S.rademaker]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:S.rademaker|Contact]]

==== Rotterdam ====
* Reinout van Schouwen [[User:reinouts]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:reinouts|Contact]]

=== Utrecht ===

==== Utrecht ====
* Eric Spierings 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ericsp|Contact]]
* Peter van de Werken 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:PWerken|Contact]]
* Kenny van Wanrooij 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:kenneth|Contact]]
* Eduard Goudakov 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:VreVo|Contact]]

=== Status ===
30/30

== New Zealand ==
===Networks===
As Telecom are using the 850MHz network for their GSM network, and Vodafone/northelia (possibly aka orcon) are using 900/1800MHz, please state which version you want. This may need more research, I'm not 100%; see [http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml] for more info 

===Shipping===
Based on info from steve (openmoko marketing) concerning weight and size, shipping via UPS will be about US$185 (NZ$24 each phone) to Auckland. 
UPS are far from the cheapest, but (again according to steve), OM have a contract with them, so this is what we are stuck with 

Someone on the community list suggested using [http://www.myus.com], a shipping company that will re-post items overseas at decent rates. They claim US$66 for a 3kg package, or NZ$8 per phone. Of course, the cost of shipping the phone from OM to the shipping company has to be added in as well.

===Purchase cost===
As of 2008-06-21, US$369 is worth NZ$484

===Duty/taxes/other charges===
import duty on mobile phones is 0%[http://www.customs.govt.nz/importers/Private+Importers/Customs+Charges.htm], and GST is 12.5% so the GST added to each phone will be NZ$64; 12.5% * (484 + 24), cos we pay GST on postage too...

So, the total cost of a Freerunner as part of a 10 pack, will be: 
484 + 24 + 64 
= '''NZ$572''' 

+ any possible charges to get it posted elsewhere in New Zealand

You'll also need to add on disbursement fees etc. If it's UPS it's not too bad (~NZ$40) if it comes through NZ Post then it can be ~NZ$120.

'''[http://nicegear.co.nz nicegear]''' may be bringing some in depending on pricing from OpenMoko.

=== Auckland ===
==== [[Auckland group sales|Auckland]] ====
Status:10 phones requested, the required minimum (10 phones) is reached, but more buyers are still welcome to join. 
13/20 
=====Intermediary=====
Glen ogilvie made a suggestion, that we could use a company (e.g. someone's employer, who are likely to have easily found contact details and thus be trustworthy) to buy the phones on our behalf (after we'd paid for them), and then deliver them to us. 
any volunteers? do any of you have understanding bosses/your own company that could help out here? 
Dave Lane: I think '''[http://egressive.com Egressive]''' would be willing to act as an intermediary. Contact me to discuss it... 

=== Purchaser List ===
*Rob Paulson [[User:Myfanwy]] [mailto:robin.paulson@gmail.com] 900MHz
**i'm quite happy to organise the purchase, if no-one has any objections. to ease any worries about me running off with the money, we could use an escrow service such as [http://safetrader.co.nz], or paypal. or does anyone have any other ideas?
*Simon Wells [[User:Swel024]] 900MHz
*Jeremy List [[User:Jeremy-list]] mailto:quick.dudley@gmail.com (Wellington, not Auckland, will pay for courier) 900MHz
*David Murrell [[User:Viddy]] - [mailto:dmurrell@waikato.ac.nz] I'm in Hamilton, either courier, or I'll drive up :) 900MHz
*Jeremy Gray [[User:Bogdan237]] [mailto:jgra163@ec.auckland.ac.nz] Auckland, 900MHz
*Xuân Baldauf [[User:xbaldauf]] [mailto:xuan--2008.05--GroupSales--wiki.openmoko.org@baldauf.org] Auckland CBD, 900MHz+1800MHz GSM with an [http://www.ak2.com.tw/pd_main.asp?sg_id=11 '''EU''' charger clip] instead of an Australian one (if this is in need to be selected). This is conditional: the transaction must complete by 2008-06-30, else I cannot participate, because I'm leaving the country afterwards.
*Paul Roe [[User:Par08]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Par08 contact me here] Christchurch, 2 x 900MHz
*Dave Lane [[User:dangerpossum]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dangerpossum contact] Christchurch, 1 x 900MHz + 1800MHz GSM
*Paul Hunkin [[User:paulhunkin]] [mailto:pwh4@cs.waikato.ac.nz Contact] Hamilton (I'll pay for a courier), 1 x 900MHz.
*Paul Sandkuijl [[User:Edictor]] [http://www.edictor.com/contact.php Contact me here] Napier (I'll pay for postage to Napier from Auckland) and I also suggest a PayPal/Safetrader similar service, 1 Vodafone compatible 900/1800MHz.
*Brent Wood [[User:pcreso]] [mailto:pcreso@pcreso.com Email] Wellington. Will pay courier to Wgtn. 1x Vodafone compatible 900/1800Mhz unit
*Glen Ogilvie [[User:Nelg]] [mailto:nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz Email] Auckland, 1x Vodafone compatible 900Mhz.

=== Wellington ===
==== [[Wellington group sales|Wellington]] ====
Status: 1/10
*Andrew Stephen [[User:lizardb0y]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lizardb0y email me] Wellington, 1 x 900/1800Mhz GSM Vodafone compatible.

== Norway ==
=== Nordland ===
==== Bodø ====
Status 2/10

* [[User:AlecTBM|Alexander Frøyseth]] [mailto:alexander.froyseth@gmail.com alexander.froyseth@gmail.com]
* Ole Marius
* Stian Vading
* [[User:Kolbjorn.Dahle|Kolbjorn Dahle]][mailto:kolbjorn@dahlenett.org]

=== Sør-Trøndelag ===
==== Trondheim ====
Status 14/20

*[[User:andy000|Andreas Kalvå]] [mailto:andy@samfundet.no andy@samfundet.no]
Send mail om du er interessert.

=== Østlandet ===
==== Oslo, Akershus, Buskerud, Vestfold ====
Status: 30/?? 
30/30 er bestilt via [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] 
ingen har påtatt seg å bestille inn flere, men det er etterspørsel etter fler.

* [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] [mailto:heikkis@matnat.uio.no] (30/30) FULT! Ta likevel kontakt for veiledning.
* [[User:StianEllingsen|Stian Ellingsen]]

==== Østfold ====
Status 2/10

* [[User:MrBlonde|Petter Nygård]] [mailto:pettnyg@frisurf.no] Interessert? -> Mail meg....
* Eirik Lavik

=== Vestlandet ===
==== Bergen ====
Status 1/10

* [[User:alastairj|Alastair Jenkins]] [mailto:alastair.jenkins@gfi.uib.no]
* [[User:olemd|Ole-Morten Duesund]] [mailto:olemd@glemt.net]

== Poland ==

* Special group buy site: https://www.kumulator.pl/show/group/35 (in edition moment: 37/40)

== Portugal ==
Portuguese (10/10) who are associates of ANSOL, please consider joining [[TeamANSOL]] (currently 5/10 members).

We also need to have a cost estimation for Portuguese customs (like the Australians did). 20% sales tax + customs tax is to be expected both for individual or bulk sales, because the price is quite high. But freedom is priceless :)

=== Aveiro ===
==== Aveiro ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:Ruben|Ruben Mendes]] ([[TeamANSOL]])

=== Lisboa ===
==== Lisboa ====
Status : 9/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Danielblues Daniel Branco]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Knuckles Ivo Anjo]
* [[User:Pedrosilva|Pedro Silva]]
* Ricardo Sousa ([[TeamANSOL]])
* [[User:RuiSeabra|Rui Seabra]] ([[TeamANSOL]])
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasco Vasco Névoa]
* [[User:Jcanelas|José Canelas]]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Brunus Bruno Valentim]
* José Esteves ([[TeamANSOL]])

=== Porto ===
==== Porto ====
Status: 1/10

* [[User:villate|Jaime Villate]] ([[TeamANSOL]])

== Sweden ==
If insufficient number of people, orders could be merged and remailed perhaps.

Domestic remailing with Posten as A-class mail of a letter (criteria: length+width+height max 900 mm) weighing max 1 kg, without insurance should [http://www.posten.se/foretag/vara_tjanster/postageguide/postguideLetterDom.jspv cost 44 SEK]. 50 SEK more for insurance.

If we end up with more than one 10-pack in Sweden, my guess is that it would probably pay to order everything in one shipment to one address in Sweden to save on the international shipping, and then remail domestically.

=== Götaland ===
==== Göteborg ====

* [[User:Fwendt|Fredrik Wendt]] [[Special:Emailuser/Fwendt|Contact]]/wendt.se

==== Malmö ====
Status : 1/10

* Lars Jarlvik mailto:lars@larsfactory.se

=== Svealand ===
==== Stockholm ====
Status : 10/10

* Erland Lewin mailto:erland@lewin.nu
* Simon Kågström mailto:simon.kagstrom@gmail.com
* Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson mailto:ingi@ultimalabor.se
* Adam Johansson mailto:adam@sollentunaholm.se
* Lowe Schmidt mailto:lowe.schmidt@gmail.com
* [[User:Dex|Johan Eklundh]] Mail automated via contact page.
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/esbjorn Esbjörn Dominique]
* Johan Erlands mailto:johan.erlands@gmail.com
* [[User:Joel | Joel Metelius ]] [[Special:Emailuser/Joel | (contact)]] 1 phone + 1 debug (if possible)
* Peter Wihlner mailto:info@faktor.nu

==== Örebro ====
Status : 1/10

* Anders Petersson [mailto:demitar@worldforge.org demitar@worldforge.org]

==== Västerås ====
Status : 2/10
* Jörgen Lidholm, could join the Falun/Borlänge or Stockholm group [mailto:jorgen.lidholm@gmail.com]
* John Törnblom, can also join the Stockholm group [mailto:f04jto@student.lth.se]

==== Falun & Borlänge ====
Status : 4/10

* [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Jth Johan Thelmén], Åke Hoff & a demo/backup
* [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:eagle87 Pär Eriksson], Borlänge

=== Norrland ===
==== Umeå ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Zash|Zash]] [[Special:Emailuser/Zash|Contact]]
* [[User:Benjamin|Benjamin]] [[Special:Emailuser/Benjamin|Contact]]

==== Luleå ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Mjukis|Mjukis]] [[Special:Emailuser/Mjukis|Contact]] - 2 Units. Can also join the Malmö group order.

== Switzerland ==

'''???''' should organize the 3 x 10pack for Zürich 
Luca Capello could organize the 10pack for Geneva. 
Mathieu will organisze the 2 x 10pack for Lausanne EPFL CH-fr 

All payment in advance (a 10pack will cost approx 3'800 USD). 

'''Probably we will organize shippings, if we cannot all move to Zürich/Genève/Lausanne to get our Neo.'''

''François Bianco is trying to create a new group of 10 (will be mostly for French Switzerland). -> The group moved to the EPFL group, which will try to reach 20 persons. --[[User:Fbianco|Fbianco]] 11:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)'' 
''Gabriel Ambuehl would volunteer to order the initial 10pack. <- still accurate ? -> Gabriel will not organize the 10packs for Zürich due to not being in Switzerland. We are in contact to find a solution so please wait until we know what to do. Order in Germany (each for himself or as a group, not clear yet) could be as cheap as a 10pack. We are in contact with pulster.de and will be contacted form pulster about the price. We will contact you guys in the Zürich list as soon as we know more --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 10:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)'' 
''Alexandre Ghisoli will not organize the second 10pack, since the order moved in the Lucca's group.'' 

=== Customs and Postage ===
I called the [http://www.ezv.admin.ch/index.html?lang=en Swiss Federal Customs Administration] and it seems that we only need to pay VAT (7.6%) and the UPS taxes as well (since the parcel will be sent through UPS). Thus I called [http://www.ups.com/content/ch/en/contact/ UPS] and it seems that UPS directly pays the VAT instead of the customer, then asking the customer for refund (plus a fixed tax of EUR13.00). So I think the following per-phone cost for a Swiss bulk order should be a good estimate.

{| border="1"
|'''Bulk Order'''
|'''USD'''
|'''CHF'''
|-
|Customs Value (Cval)
|3690.00
|3837.60
|-
|Postage
|160.00
|166.40
|-
|Value of Taxable Importation (VoTI) = Cval+Postage
|3850.00
|4004.00
|-
|VAT = 7.6% of VoTI
|292.60
|304.30
|-
|UPS fixed tax (EUR13.00)
|20.00
|20.80
|-
|Total Cost
|4162.60
|4329.10
|-
|'''Per Person'''
|'''416.26'''
|'''432.91'''
|}

Figures accurate as of 4th Jun 2008 from [http://www.ubs.com/1/e/index/bcqv/calculator.html UBS]: 1EUR = 1.54USD and 1USD = 1.04CHF.

==== Shipping ====
If we would ship Neos, here is the Swiss PostPac prices :

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2"
! Description
! Size [cm]
! Price CHF TTC
|-
| Size 1
| 22.9 x 14.7 x 9.9
| 2.20
|-
| Size 2
| 31.5 x 22.5 x 12.5
| 2.40
|-
| Shipping Priority
| up to 2Kg
| 8.-
|-
| Shipping Economy
| up to 2Kg
| 6.-
|}

 

Steve posted informations about boxes that will be out with Neo :

* 10 pack : 435mm x 371mm x 119mm, approx 3kg, UPS will charge 160USD (need to be verified)
* Individual pack : 178mm x 104mm x 84mm, 237 grams

So size 1 will fit ! Local delivery in Switzerland will cost 8.20 for Economy or 10.20 Priority.

==== Zurich ====
Status : 28/30 
'''Contact person who order the 10Pack : ??'''

List already contains 30 people! 
''-- I changed from 20 -> 30 Devices in this order. --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 18:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)''

* Simon Wenner [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nowic Contact]
* Simon Schreiber [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]
* Markus Huggler (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]
* Andre Timmermann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]
* Raffael Schmid [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]
* Pascal Weller [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]
* Nick Zbinden (Luzern) [mailto:nickik@gmx.ch] oder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nickik Contact]
* Marcel Wirth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Skarhand Contact]
* Marcel Lütolf (Luzern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/NeRo Contact]
* Christian Corrodi [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matto Contact]
* Mirko Klingauf [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/RealAtaman Contact]
* Marcel Jost (Bern, with debug board if possible) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Onsonic Contact]
* Marc Andre Tanner (Biel) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mat Contact]
* Peter Salvisberg [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Psal Contact]
* Martin Kos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KoS Contact]
* Lorenz Schori (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Znerol Contact]
* Pascal Mages (Bern/Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/FreeMind Contact]
* Esra Kummer (2 Geräte!) (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tuxfux.ch Contact]
* Joerg Maeder (Opfikon) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/goergel Contact]
* Marc Bodmer (Solothurn) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/minxx Contact]
* Carlos Diener (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Emonkey Contact]
* Philipp Meier (Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/PhilippMeier Contact]
* Adrian Rudin (Basel) [mailto:adrian@mav.ch] or [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/blackmav Contact]
* Christof Pfister (Lyss) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chpfister Contact]
* Walter Sutter (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/seraphim Contact]
* Philipp Hug (St. Gallen) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Philipphug Contact]
* Thomas Jund (Aarau) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/none Contact]

==== Geneve ====
Status : 10/10 
'''Contact person who order the 10Pack : Luca Capello '''
WARNING, this list already contains 10 people! -- LucaCapello

* Diego Abelenda [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Aelia Contact]
* Luca Capello [mailto:luca@pca.it]
* Nicolas Produit [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Produit Contact]
* Sebastien Nanchen [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sn Contact]
* Matthieu de Montmollin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matthieudem Contact]
* Robin Farine (Auvernier) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rfarine Contact]
* Alexandre Ghisoli (Yverdon) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Agh Contact]
* Raphael Studer (Thurgau) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tschudder Contact]
* Christian Wäckerlin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/boognu Contact]
* Michael Stähli (Lausanne EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/adler Contact]

==== Suisse romande / Lausanne (EPFL) ====
Status : 20/20 COMPLETE 
'''Contact person who order the 10Packs : [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Mathieu Habegger] '''

* Mathieu Habegger (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Contact]
* Matthias Brändli (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hb9egm Contact]
* Frédéric Fokan(Lausanne) [mailto:fredericfokan@gmail.com Contact]
* Gulu (Lausanne) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gulu Contact]
* Edomaur (Lausanne, with Gulu) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edomaur Contact]
* Layx (Lausanne) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Layx Contact]
* Mélanie Baumann (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/calis Contact]
* Laurent Fasnacht (EPFL) [http://gnugeneration.epfl.ch/users/fasnacht Contact]
* Urs Blaser (UNIL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/arctus Contact]
* David Lütolf (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dlutolf Contact]
* François Bianco [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/fbianco Contact]
* Samuel Dorsaz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/akira Contact]
* Ludovic Fardel (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lfardel Contact]
* David Pelichet Contact via hb9egm 
* Vincent Hentsch [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vincos Contact]
* Carruzzo Gilles [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Willows Contact]
* Nicolas Favrod-Coune [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nfavrod Contact]
* Mathias Coinchon [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Coinchon Contact] 
* Rey Cyril (Monthey) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cyril Contact]
* Didier Raboud (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OdyX Contact]
* ---- '''The 20 pack is complete''' ----
 
'''''This list will be extended to 30 only if we can complete the 30 pieces''''' ''Add your name below if you're interested --[[User:Habi|Habi]] 19:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)''
* ''Claude Angéloz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/claude-elrond740 Contact]''
* Pascal Bach (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Anakron Contact]
* Nicolas Etienne (Gimel) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nice Contact]
* Michel Dänzer (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrCooper Contact]

== Spain ==
=== Spain (Country Group Sale) ===
Status: 16/20

=== Madrid ===
==== Madrid ====
Status : 5/10

* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Rafael Campos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Methril Contact] 

* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Pabloruiz contact me here]

* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Carlos Padilla Sorbas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:cymonline contact me here]

* [[Special:Emailuser/Troy|Alvaro Garcia Roy]] 1 phone

* [[User:kresp0 | Santiago Crespo]] 1 phone

=== Zaragoza ===
==== Zaragoza ====
Status : 1/10

* Arturo Giner [[Special:Emailuser/artginer|Contact]]

=== Barcelona ===
==== Barcelona ====
Status : 7/10

* José Luis Pérez [[Special:Emailuser/jluis|Contact]]
* David Reyes Samblas Martinez [[Special:Emailuser/mutrox|Contact]]
* Sergio Arias [[Special:Emailuser/saerguio|Contact]]
* Alex Muntada [[Special:Emailuser/alexm|Contact]]
* Pascal co [[Special:Emailuser/pascalco|Contact]]
* Antonio Rodríguez ( x2 ) [[Special:Emailuser/AntonioR|Contact]]

=== Valencia ===
==== Valencia ====
Status : 1/10

* Pau Gaspar Díaz [[Special:Emailuser/pau|Contact]]

=== Islas Canarias ===
==== Tenerife ====
Status : 1/10

* Enrique Hernández Bello [[Special:Emailuser/SiNiESTrO|Contact]]

== UAE ==
Status: 1/10
* Yaser Ammar [[Special:Emailuser/Waraqa|Contact]]

== USA ==
=== Arizona ===
==== Tucson ====
Willing to reship to nonlocal people within the US (cheaper if you're closer), or get absorbed into another group that's willing to reship. In talks with Boulder (Colorado) group.

Status: 3/10
* [mailto:wes.shull@gmail.com wesshull] Wes Shull - 1x GTA02 + 1x debug board
* Richard Reichenbacher - 2x GTA02

=== Colorado ===
==== Boulder ====
Status: 8/10
* Vinc Duran x2 (I can purchase and distribute locally) [mailto:uberpfloyd@gmail.com?subject=Openmoko%20group%20sales Pfloyd] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pfloyd Contact]
* John Miller [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jwm jwm]
* D Padilla 
* Joey Stanford [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/k0fcc k0fcc]
* J Hinegardner [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jjh jjh]
* S Derrick of New Mexico x2 

==== Denver (Full) ====
Status: 10/10 (includes the gentleman from Utah)
* Shawn Sullivan [[mailto:shelbydz87@yahoo.com shelbydz87@yahoo.com]]
* Peter Abplanalp [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alderion Contact]
* Ben Burdette [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ansible Contact]
* Tom Russell [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tazbert Contact]
* Trace [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gnork Contact]

==== Fort Collins ====
Status: 1/10
* Paul Hummer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rockstar Contact]

=== California ===
==== Los Angeles ====
Status: 8/10

* Ian Douglas, Santa Monica I'll help organize a group sale, meet & greet, but since I was selected to help test the Freerunner, I won't need to actually purchase one. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iandouglas Contact me here]
* Matthew Wetmore, Westchester 90045 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wetmoko Contact]
* Daniel, Torrance [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Beaker82 Contact]
* James Robertson, Irvine [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JamesRobertson Contact]
* Bill Sun [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/DancingSun Contact]
* Michael, Santa Monica [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bstudios Contact]
* Russel Dwiggins, Cerritos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/undrwater Contact]
* Dima, Pasadena [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dima Contact]
* Mike, Santa Monica (1 unit + 1 debug board) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Traveler Contact]

==== San Diego ====

Status: 8/10

Includes North County, Riverside, Tijuana, etc.

* Peter Naulls, Carlsbad (South)/Mira Mesa (near Qualcomm) - will coordinate. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pnaulls Contact]
* Tracy Reed [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/treed Contact]
* Adam Hughes [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ajinxa Contact]
* Paul Breed [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbreed Contact]
* Greg Davidson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JGregD Contact]
* Larry Riedel [mailto:Larry@Riedel.org Contact]
* David Wilhelm [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bluefir Contact]
* Jim McLaughlin - could move to LA group if needed as other company office is near LAX [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rpq Contact]

==== San Francisco Bay Area ====
Status: 10/10 Full

(Discuss this group sale, pickup and payments on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#San_Francisco_Bay_Area talk page])

* Ajit Natarajan - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ajitk Contact]

* Dirk Bergstrom - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krid Contact]

* Tupshin Harper - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tupshin Contact]

* Lothar Werzinger (900MHz) - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Elektrolott Contact]

* William Ray Yeager - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/wyeager Contact]

* Sebastian Coe - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savari Contact]

* Jim Morris - (Agreed to organize purchase) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/wolfmanjm Contact]

* Brian Carver - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/brianwc Contact]

* Cry Regarder (2 units, cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cry_Regarder Contact]

Status 6/10
* Cry Regarder (1 units, cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cry_Regarder Contact]

* Jim Lutz - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JLutz Contact]

* Kelley Eitzen - (Cash or Paypal) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xeromist Contact]

* Paul Mahon - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dufflebunk Contact] (San Jose)

* William Morgan - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Williamallthing Contact]

* ken restivo - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kenrestivo Contact]

=== Florida ===
==== Central Florida ====
Status 1/10
* 1 x Jonathan Howard [[Special:Emailuser/kingtgaurd9|Contact]], Orlando

=== Idaho ===
==== Southwestern Idaho ====
Status 2/10
* 1 × Eugene Kravtsov [[Special:Emailuser/theUg|Contact]], Garden City (Boise).
* 1 × Christopher Blay [[Special:Emailuser/blayde|Contact]], Twin Falls.

=== Midwest ===
'''(combine Illinois / Iowa / Tennesee / Texas / Wisconsin)'''
Status: 9/10
* Steven M [[Special:Emailuser/Montgoss|Contact]] - Cedar Rapids, IA
* Joseph Booker [[Special:Emailuser/Sargas|Contact]] - Chicago, IL
* Matt McCormick [[Special:Emailuser/Thewtex|Contact]] - Madison, WI
* Charles Hill [mailto:charles.e.hill@gmail.com email] - Chicago, IL
* Greg Bonett [mailto:greg@bonett.org email] - Iowa City, IA
* Tushar Dayal [mailto:tdayal@gmail.com Contact] - Ames, IA
* solomon jacob herscovitch [[Special:Emailuser/SoloSalsa|Contact]] - Chicago, IL
* Eric Olson [mailto:ericools@gmail.com Contact] - Madison, WI
* Tom Watson [[Special:Emailuser/Toggles|Contact]] - Pittsburgh, PA

=== Kentucky ===
(Possibly + 2 from Memphis?)
Status: 8/10 (Possibly 10?)
* Dan Staley [[Special:Emailuser/Pyrasi|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* Donnie Jones [[Special:Emailuser/Donniejones18|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* John Sterling [[Special:Emailuser/Sterling|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* James MacLachlan [[Special:Emailuser/Jmaclachlan|Contact]] (Louisville, KY)
* John Askew [[Special:Emailuser/Johnaskyou|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* Devin Cook [[Special:Emailuser/Dcook|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* Geoff Ruscoe [[Special:Emailuser/Geocode|Contact]] - Louisville, KY
* Jon Howard [[Special:Emailuser/Jchoward|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)

=== Ohio / Michigan ===
Status: 10/10
* David Pais (Unknown City) [mailto:davioh2001@yahoo.com email]
* Dave Ludlow (Toledo) (I can purchase and distribute) [[Special:Emailuser/adsllc|Contact]]
* Adam Steele (Cincinnati) [mailto:adam@laurasteele.net Contact]
* Elliot Bailey (Canton) [mailto:elliot.bailey@yahoo.com Contact]
* Richard Rowell (Grand Rapids) [mailto:richard.rowell@gmail.com Contact]
* [mailto:sf_openmoko10pak2@paulwehr.com Paul Wehr] Ann Arbor
* Micah Krafcik (Youngstown) [mailto:mjk20xx@yahoo.com Contact]
* Doug Wurtzbacher (Centerville) x2 [mailto:doug@medicineshoppekett.com Contact]
* Martin Dicks (Columbus) [[Special:Emailuser/mdicks|Contact]]

=== Pacific Northwest ===
==== Oregon ====
===== Eugene =====
Status: 2/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Washington group)

* Quentin Hartman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/qhartman|Contact]] Willing to organize the Oregon group buy and/or be absorbed into another Pacific NW group if too few locals sign up.
* Brian Wilson (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Brian_H_Wilson|Contact]] (in Corvallis actually)

==== Washington ====
===== Seattle =====
Status: 8/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Oregon group)
* Jon Pomeroy (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Jepomeroy|Contact]]
* Andrew Hirata (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/tonkatsu182|Contact]] Note: I live in Bellevue
* Chris Baker (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/cwainb|Contact]]
* Mark Zimmerman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mawazi|Contact]]
* Wim Lewis (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Wiml|Contact]] In Wallingford.
* Charles Wheeler (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/SnowWolf75|Contact]] Note: Work in Bellevue, live in Federal Way. May not have money till mid-July.
* Gino O (Status confirmed) (i n f o @ seatlewebcreations.com) I live on Beacon Hill and own 2 companies, one for web and another for opensource mobile development. I'd like to get @ least one, and may be able to cover the difference for a group purchase if need be.
* Matt Luzum (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mluzum|Contact]]

=== Tennessee ===
==== Memphis ====
Status: 2/10
* Peter O'Connor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/poconnor Contact]
* Jarvis Stubblefield (Prefer with Debug) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BallisticPain Contact]

=== Texas ===
==== Austin (15/10) ====
* Dale Schumacher [[Special:Emailuser/dalnefre|Contact]]
* Michael Cosby [[Special:Emailuser/mcosby|Contact]]
* Paul Jimenez [[Special:Emailuser/pj|Contact]]
* Charles [[Special:Emailuser/rbn|Contact]]
* Anthony Kitchin [[Special:Emailuser/akitchin|Contact]]
* Carl (x2) [[Special:Emailuser/texatopia|Contact]]
* Robert (+Debug Board) [[Special:Emailuser/SHaRK|Contact]] (Houston)
* Bryan DeLuca [[Special: Emailuser/Stupkid|Contact]] (Fort Worth)
* Dennis Parker [[Special: Emailuser/dparker|Contact]]
* Chip Rosenthal [[Special: Emailuser/chip|Contact]]
* Brad Mouring [[Special: Emailuser/Bmouring|Contact]] (Moving to Austin by mid-June, likely earlier)
* Joel Greenberg [[Special: Emailuser/joelg|Contact]]
* Hans Loeblich [[Special: Emailuser/Peepsalot|Contact]]
* Mark Rinaudo [[Special:Emailuser/Mrinaudo|Contact]]
* Scott Farrell [[Special:Emailuser/sfarrell|Contact]]

==== Dallas (2/10) ====
* Philip White [[Special:Emailuser/pmw|Contact]]
* Stephen Shelton [[Special:Emailuser/stephenashelton|Contact]]

=== Mid-Atlantic ===
==== District of Columbia (DC) Metro Area ====
* Brian DeRocher [[Special:Emailuser/brian_252|email]]
==== Virginia====
===== Virginia Tech (1/10) =====
* Lally Singh [[Special:Emailuser/lally|email]] -- yeah, if you're ordering anywhere in VA, lemme know. 
===== Richmond (1/10)=====
*Steve Watson mailto:ssw0213@gmail.com 

==== New York (18/20) ====

* Bert Hartmann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BertHartm Contact me here] 
* Michael Cole mailto:mjcole137@gmail.com 
* Remy Frerebeau [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rfrerebe Contact me here] 
* Ulises E. Erickson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ulix Contact me here] 
* Justin Daly [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/justo Contact me here] 
* Philippe Gerard [[Special:Emailuser/feydreva|Contact]] I live in Richmond (VA) but we will never be 10 there 
* Evan Charlton mailto:evancharlton+om@gmail.com 
* Paul Buede mailto:paul@buede.com 
* Baruch Even [[Special:Emailuser/poka|Contact me here]] 
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced)Paul Hurlock [[Special:Emailuser/triclosan|Contact me here]] 
* Ryan [[Special:Emailuser/ryan|Contact me here]] (Connecticut, actually, but close enough.) 
* Charles Pax mailto:charles.pax@gmail.com
* Chrisropher Pax mailto:christopher.pax@gmail.com
* Miki Grof-Tisza [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MTisza Contact me here] 
* Daniel Dadap 1x [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/danek Contact me here] - If we don't reach 20 by release date I intend to purchase individually. 
* Yaroslav Halchenko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/yarikoptic]
* Craig Woodward [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Woody14619|Contact here] or mailto:woody14619@yahoo.com Up-state & will require re-ship.
* Alex [[Special:Emailuser/rakukin|Contact]]

==== Maryland (2/10)====
* Paul Buede I switched to New York, cause we don't have enough. Look up ^ 
* Charles Lohr
* Alex (switched to NYC, see above; may be able to deliver phone(s) to DC metro)

==== North Carolina (3/10)====
* Jason Sharpee [[Special:Emailuser/zonyl|Contact]] - Charlotte Metro area 
* William Vidrine [[Special:Emailuser/Infoport|Contact]] - Greensboro/Triad area, will be part of an NC or Mid-Atlantic order; will drop out and order individually if 10 not reached. 
* Joe White [[Special:Emailuser/Raygions|Contact]] - Winston-Salem/Triad area 

=== Massachusetts ===
Status: 10/10 (Full)
* Benjamin Moody [[Special:Emailuser/FloppusMaximus|Contact]]

* Ken Young, Cambridge (Note, if we're not up to 10/10 on the day the Freerunner is announced, I'm going to drop out and order individually).[[Special:Emailuser/Dolson|Contact]]

* Chris White (for 2) [[Special:Emailuser/Safire|Contact]]

* Nick Dube - Pembroke, NH (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Doobe01 Contact]

* Justin Brzozoski - Worcester, MA area [[Special:Emailuser/Jabski|Contact]]

* John Nicholson - Amherst, MA (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/nicklogan|Contact]]

* Matthew Campbell - Worcester, MA [[Special:Emailuser/lifeisafractal|Contact]]

* Jeff Gold [[Special:Emailuser/jgold|Contact]]

* Craig Allen [[Special:Emailuser/knodalyte|Contact]]

Status: 7/10

* Bala Nair - Acton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/bnair|Contact]]
* Mike Doody - Groton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/dude|Contact]]
* 0x Nathan Perry - Derry, NH (cannot switch to GSM at this time)
* Kyle Harrington - Amherst, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/dancingcuziwanna|Contact]]
* Ryan Svoboda - Worcester, MA (Will buy one individually on release day if this group is incomplete) [[Special:Emailuser/ryansv|Contact]]
* Ryan Meador - Worcester, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/Yanroy|Contact]]
* Jeff Gelbard - Haydenville, MA [[Special:Emailuser/jgelbard|Contact]]
(Between the 2 groups, we already have 7 "visibly" from Worchester - Western MA...I think the group should be resorted....Who is the contact where the package will be sent?)

=== Nevada ===
==== Reno/Sparks ====
Including Northwestern Nevada/ Northeastern California
Status: 1/10
* Tyrell Berry [[Special:Emailuser/Alawatsakima|Contact]]

== UK ==

* Stroller (Milton Keynes, can travel) mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk 01908 663 513. Thinks that breaking the UK up into regions - at least outside London - is silly. There are unlikely to be 10 people in $your_town who want a Freerunner, so some posting of Freerunners will surely be required; see [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Oxford the talk page]. This is the same cost anywhere in the UK.

=== Scotland ===
==== Edinburgh ====
Status : 4/10

* Joe Wells (Edinburgh) [http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~jbw/ Web] (The Wiki's e-mail feature (those URLs with “Special:Emailuser” in them) do not seem to be working. I tried contacting Dave Ball and Stuart MacKinnon that way and got no reply. Later, Stuart (who I reached by writing a message here) told me he never got the e-mail. So the Wiki's e-mail feature might be broken. So please contact me by going to my web page and using my e-mail address listed there. Stuart and George have been in contact with me by e-mail. I am happy to put more people in Scotland in touch if you send me e-mail.)
* Dave Ball (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Daveb Contact]
* Stuart MacKinnon(Livingston) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hoagster Contact]
* george Maistros (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mordilo_k Contact]

==== Glasgow ====
Status : 3/10

* Kyle Gordon [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kylegordon Contact]
* Sean Anderson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Moniker42 Contact]
* Kenny Duffus [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sealne Contact]

=== England ===

==== Hampshire ====

Status: 16/20 at 2008-05-24

http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FreerunnerBulkBuy

Willing to re-ship within the UK.

(Sorry, we set up the page before we knew about this one)

==== London ====

Status : 15/10

* Juergen Schinker mailto:ba1020@homie.homelinux.net
* aled [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aled Contact]
* Robert Piasek (actually in Southampton) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Queen6 Contact]
* Tom Scholl (Cambridge, travel to London now and then anyway so could pick up) [mailto:thomasscholl@gmail.com]
* Weiss (Cambridge, could collect from London) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Weiss Contact]
* Neil Bentley (in Wiltshire) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ohnez Contact]
* rhn x 2 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rhn Contact]
* Tim Coggins [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Contact]
* Michele Mattioni (I'm based in Cambridge too, but if Tom can go to London I can grab the phone in Cambridge) [mailto:mattions@gmail.com]
* '''Group Buyer''' Ben F-W (Fulham, London) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/benfw Contact]
* T. Chan (Cambridge, vaguely knows Weiss) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/TC Contact]
* Rob Paulson (Derby, but will be visiting London in July) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Myfanwy Contact]
* Mario [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Spirer Contact]
* David Pottage (actually in Reading) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chrestomanci Contact]

==== West Midlands ====
Status : 3/10

* Mo Abrahams (Walsall) mailto:moabrahams@dashavoo.com
* Jonathan Spooner (Walsall)
* E. Lucretiu (Stafford) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lucretiu Contact]

== Latvia ==
=== Riga ===
==== Riga ====
Status : 2/10
* Ilya [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/VRGhost Contact]
* Deniss [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Druidegrey Contact]

== Singapore ==
Status : 3/10
* Wee Kiam Peng [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jipi Contact]
* Chen Ruo Fei [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crf Contact]
* Moritz Haeberle [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Morid Contact]

== Israel==
Status : 3/10
* Ofer Herman [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/oferhe Contact]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Talba Talba]
* Dan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Da-x Contact]

== Czech Republic ==
<div style="text-align: center;">
Koordinátorem objednávání je Martin Šenkeřík [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]
</div>
=== Aktuálně ===
'''Odeslal jsem všem ze seznamu mail s informacemi k odeslání peněz. Pokud náhodou někomu mail nedorazil, urychleně se mi ozvěte, ať se nemusí moc čekat. Mohlo se stát, že jsem v tom množství někoho nechtěně vynechal...'''
*'''26.6. - '''V pondělí porovnám výpis z účtu se seznamem zájemců tady na wiki a od koho tam nebudou peníze budu ho ještě pro jistotu kontaktovat. Pokud se ukáže, že všechno dorazilo tak jak mělo, odešlu peníze Pulsterovi.
Na to jsem se ptal v České Spořitelně, a převod více než 200 000Kč je nutné provést v bance, za co si vyberou 200Kč poplatek, plus 1% z částky za zahraniční převod v EUR, avšak maximálně 1500Kč - což je náš případ, plus ještě poplatky Německé banky protože všechny poplatky půjdou na vrub odesílatele (snad to nebude moc). Tyhle poplatky uhradím z toho, co jsem připočítal k ceně telefonu.

''A je to tu!! Pulster.de nejenom potvrdil cenu, ale také oznámil, že už má telefony skladem (ne však zatím k veřejnému prodeji, ale nám je připravený je odeslat).''

=== Základní informace ===
Jedná se o hromadnou objednávku [[Neo_FreeRunner|Neo FreeRunner]] ([[Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware|hardware]] - GSM, GPS, WiFi, CPU 400MHz, ...; software - [http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/freerunner1.4.swf náhled na připravovanou Qtopii]) do České republiky.
Cena 299€.

Protože se množí na to dotazy, vypíšu co je součástí dodávky a co ne:
*Obdržíme:[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:GTA02ALL.png]
** FreeRunner ;-)
** stylus (pravděpodobně ten s laserem aspol...)
** adaptér
** USB kabel
** 512MB SD card

*Neobdržíme (možno přiobjednat):
** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/d__ompouch__OpenMoko_Freerunner_Pouch786.htm obal] (19€) - navíc 500Kč
** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/index.html?d__omheadset__OpenMoko_Headset785.htm headset] (9€) - navíc 250Kč

Omlouvám se těm, kteří by ještě chtěli přiobjednat některé z příslušenství a už odeslali peníze. Bude bohužel potřeba v případě zájmu odeslat ještě navíc sumu za příslušenství. ''Pokud by byl malý zájem, mohl bych to zaplatit ze zálohy a případný nedoplatek vybrat v hotovosti (platí bohužel jen pro Brno a Zlín).''

=== Postup registrace a objednání ===
<center>'''Platí pro obě větve!'''</center>
Tak jsme na kroku 3!
# Registraci provedete zápisem svého jména a kontaktu do patřičné větve odpovídající místu vašeho osobního převzítí telefonu. Můžete nabídnout distribuci do míst, které ještě nikdo neposkytuje.
# stanovena lehce nadhodnocená částka: 7500Kč za telefon, s debug boardem na 10000Kč na bezpečné pokrytí očekávaných i neočekávaných výdajů spojených s objednávkou
# '''každý zájemce odešle tuto sumu na účet Martina Šenkeříka, identifikuje se svým jménem a příjmením ve zprávě příjemci'''
# jakmile budou peníze nashromážděny, provedu objednávku tolika telefonů, kolik zájemců mi zašle peníze
# po obdržení balíku s telefony se vypočte finální částka za telefon, a případný přeplatek bude vrácen každému osobně při převzetí telefonu (lokální distributoři samozřejmě obdrží patřičný počet telefonů a peněz, aby mohly být předány dále)
# všem se dítko šťastně dopraví do rukou

*[[Talk:GroupSales#Diskuze | Diskuse]]
*[[Talk:GroupSales#Dopl.C5.88uj.C3.ADc.C3.AD_informace | Doplňující informace]]

=== Brno ===

==== Distribuční schéma ====

'''[n]''' FreeRunner
'''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)
'''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč
'''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč
''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více
voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''

<center>'''Status : 23'''</center>

'' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''

*'''Martin Šenkeřík''' - [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]
**'''Brno''':
***'''Radek Bartoň''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Blackhex|Contact]]
****'''Frýdek-Místek''':
*****-
***'''€ Pavel Erben''' - [[User:Erby|Kontakt]]
***'''Radek Machulka''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Werty|Contact]]
***'''Aleš Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Setr|Contact]]
***'''Jozef Mlich [2, 1D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/joejoe|Contact]]
***'''Martin Faltičko''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MafRaf|Contact]]
***'''€ Karel Volný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/kavol|Contact]]
***'''Martin Nagy [1, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/mnagy|Contact]]
****'''Bratislava''':
*****'''František Horínek''' - [[Special:Emailuser/PipBoy2000|Contact]]
*****'''Martin Vyšný''' - [mailto:vysny@baka.sk Contact]
*****'''Tomáš Sirný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Junckritter|Contact]]
*****'''Ján Janech''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Janik|Contact]]
*****'''Ivan Šeďo [1, 1D, 3H, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/ikoframe|Contact]]
******'''SK/Žilina''':
******'''SK/Piešťany''':
***'''Tom Varga [H, O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Varg|Contact]]
***'''€ Petr Ondo [2]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Votik|Contact]]
***'''Pavel Krátký [1, 1H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MrBobby|Contact]]
**'''Zlín''':
***'''Martin Holec''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Martix|Contact]]
***'''€ Pavel Kovář''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Fox|Contact]]
****'''Ostrava''':
*****'''€ Marian Krucina [D,H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/oak|Contact]]

=== Praha ===

==== Distribuční schéma ====
'''Vzhledem ke jednodušší distribuci půjde balíček do Brna a odtud jej převeze Tomáš Varga.'''

'''[n]''' FreeRunner
'''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)
'''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč
'''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč
''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více
voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''

<center>'''Status : 16'''</center>

'' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''

*(€)''' Jan Mareš [2,2H]''' - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:iVir Contact]
**'''Praha''':
***'''€ Martin Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/masca|Contact]]
***'''€ Michal Pěnka [H]''' - [http://michal.penka.name/kontakt Contact]
***'''Jan Černý [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/xcerj01|Contact]]
****'''Kolín''':
***'''Dag Rauer''' - [[Special:Emailuser/drag|Contact]]
***'''Miloslav Machotka [O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Machy|Contact]]
***'''David Kozub [D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Zub|Contact]] (Kdyby z Prahy seslo, volim Zlin jako fallback.)
***'''Milan Vontorčík [HO]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Mvontorcik|Contact]]
***'''Vojtěch Vozáb''' - [mailto:vojtav@centrum.cz Contact]
***'''€ Zdeněk Trávníček [D]''' - [[User:V154c1|Contact]] (Klidne si zajedu i jinam po republice)
***'''€ Milan Šedý [2]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Wortyr|Contact]]
***''' Martin Hinner''' - [mailto:martin@hinner.info Contact]
**'''Písek''':
***(€)''' Luboš Podrázský [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/zsman|Contact]]
***''' Petr Marvan''' - [mailto:petr.marvan1@seznam.cz Contact]

== Slovak Republic ==
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Czech_Republic Spojeno s Czech Republic]

== Croatia ==
Status : 12/10
* w00t - [[Special:Emailuser/W00t|Contact]]
* matija - [[Special:Emailuser/Matija.z|Contact]]
* valajbeg - [[Special:Emailuser/valajbeg|Contact]]
* kost - [[Special:Emailuser/kost|Contact]]
* mnalis - [[Special:Emailuser/mnalis|Contact]]
* tcavrag - [[Special:Emailuser/tcavrag|Contact]]
* slavus - [[Special:Emailuser/slavus|Contact]]
* bsevo - [[Special:Emailuser/bsevo|Contact]]
* amd64 - [[Special:Emailuser/SilverSpace|Contact]]
* v-v - [[Special:Emailuser/v-v|Contact]]
* Lovro - [[Special:Emailuser/Lovro|Contact]]
* Zlotvor - [[Special:Emailuser/zlotvor|Contact]]
(maybe we should make one group for bosnia, croatia & serbia together?) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php/Talk:GroupSales#Croatia the talk page]

== Russia ==
=== Moscow ===
Status : 11/20
* 1x sinister - [[Special:Emailuser/sinister|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) shallburn - [[Special:Emailuser/shallburn|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) vadson - [[Special:Emailuser/vadson|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Tallex - [[Special:Emailuser/Tallex|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) mex3 - [[Special:Emailuser/mex3|Contact]]
* 1x Alexxy (with debug board if possible) - [[Special:Emailuser/Alexxy|Contact]] (Actual location - Saint-Petersburg)
* 1x pva (with debug board if possible) - [[Special:Emailuser/Pva|Contact]] (Moscow if matters)
* 2x (1x [[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced + 1x Base) cbou (Moscow) - [[Special:Emailuser/cbou|Contact]]
* 1x (Base) Buffet - [[Special:Emailuser/Buffet|Contact]]
* 1x homeboy - [[Special:Emailuser/homeboy|Contact]]

=== Saint-Petersburg ===
Status : 7/10
* 2x Nikolay Kasatkin - [[Special:Emailuser/Kainspb|Contact]]
[[Category:Community]]
* 1x (3x?) ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - phone+board) cracatau - [[Special:Emailuser/cracatau|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - phone+board) alexei379 - [[Special:Emailuser/alexei379|Contact]]
* 3x krigstask - [[Special:Emailuser/krigstask|Contact]]

== Belarus ==
=== Minsk ===
Status : 1/10
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Const - [[Special:Emailuser/Const|Contact]]
[[Category:Community]]

== Taiwan ==
=== Taipei ===
Status : 3/10

* Cruz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cruz Contact]
* mkl23 @ShinChu [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mkl23 Contact]
* htchien [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/htchien Contact]

== Bahrain ==
Status : 3/10

* Salman [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/smhar Contact]

Talk:Wish List

2008-05-06T10:42:13Z

KlaymenDK: /* Address book: Support for family relations */

== Vote for wish list items on the OpenMoko suggestion board ==

I took the liberty to create a [http://www.fevote.com/openmoko suggestion board] for OpenMoko on [http://www.fevote.com/ FeVote] (my startup).

The suggestion board lets people submit and vote on suggestions, feature requests, etc. Ultimately, it's a great utility for determining what's in demand.

OpenMoko administrators, if you'd like to officially respond to suggestions, [http://www.fevote.com/ get in touch] so I can give you admin status.

If you think of any other way that FeVote can help the OpenMoko platform, don't hesitate to [http://www.fevote.com/ contact us].

[[User:Micropat|Micropat]] 08:42, 15 September 2007 (CEST)

== Use [[:Category:Ideas]] category? ==

I think we should use the [[:Category:Ideas]] category since all the other wishlist items are in that category. If we decide to switch we need to update all the pages in Ideas. --[[User:Ericthefish|Ericthefish]] 15:54, 19 February 2007 (CET)

== Market planning? ==

I would be ''very'' careful about the load of feature wish list here. It is good serving as a brainstorming process. However without a clear understanding of the target market demographics, this wish list can easily turn the phone into a piece of unusable hacker's wonderland instead of something that can really be used by millions and change human history. --[[User:Jcwang|JohnWang]] 16:46, 2 September 2007 (CEST)

== untidy ==

i think there's a need to sort this list e.g. like we had in the wiki before - ideas with bluetooth, etc.--[[User:Minime|Minime]] 23:29, 27 March 2007 (CEST)

I've beaten the hardware:wishlist into some sort of order.
I was planning to do a similar job on this in the next couple of days.
Same sort of ideas - delete explanatory text - we all know what a scrollbar is, for example, and add links to wikipedia for the unsure, sort out links into some sort of order, ...

== places to look ==

There's a [http://www.lifehacker.com/software/hack-attack/automate-proximity-and-location+based-computer-actions-265822.php Lifehacker Article] that might have some more good location-based ideas.

== The music player ==

I have some neat ideas that i would like to implement for the Neo, eg: music library management (hook up to external HDD). Easy finger drag navigation type user interface. but first i have to get the emulator / vmware installed on my machine :P. I would imagine that this would require 2d accelleration though :(

== Integrated Help System ==
I couldn't find anything about it while looking around the wiki, so I added a section under Software for an integrated help system. If I have missed it, my apologies, and please direct me to where it is described.
[[User:Tingo|Tingo]] 03:01, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

== Sound Customization and others ==

I am a consumer, right?

I want to set custom tones(Alarm, Ringtone, Startup/shutdown tone, Etc.)

Furthermore, I want to set specific ringtones for specific contacts and I wanted to use tones from My Computer(As an Ogg or Mp3) and use them as ringtones.

Would that be possible?

== Transparent fullscreen keyboard ==

In which category can I put the idea of a transparent fullscreen keyboard?
[[User:kelvan|kelvan]] 13:0, 20 Feb. 2008

== Address book: Support for family relations ==
[[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: This is a set of features that (to me) seem obvious, yet I have not seen ''any'' address book that supports it. Basically, the intention is to link certain fields of an address book entry with certain other address book entries.

The idea is that if John and Jane are married, the software should understand that they share some data: the date field for "Anniversary" should be shared between them, and if they move it should be sufficient to change address info in one of the entries (and the rest should follow along).

Here are the proposed components and their functions:
* "Link this field" check marks next to various entry fields (address, home phone, anniversary, etc.) -- Only checked fields should be linked with the other entries.
* "Configure family" button -- Opens a small selection list, where the user can select (multiple) other address book entries. These will be the other entries that this entry linked with.
* Whenever a linked field in an address book entry is changed, the corresponding field in the other linked entries are changed as well.
This linking should be symmetrical; that is, if you edit an entry and set some check marks and select some other address book entries, the other entries will have the same check marks set and be linked with each other and this entry.

Wish List

2008-05-06T07:07:29Z

KlaymenDK: /* Address Book */ added "family support" to address book wish list

This article is a place to collect various thoughts about the future of the [[OpenMoko]] software platform. Most wish list ideas have been linked from this page, but you may also wish to check all pages [[:Category:Ideas|that have a category of 'Ideas']].

== Development ==
=== Painless SDK installation & Setup ===
Our goal should be a completely painless setup for somebody wanting to develop using [[OpenMoko]]

* one command for installation (apt-get install openmoko)
* one command to start Xnest (openmoko-xephyr?)
* one command to start an i386 shell (openmoko-386-shell)
* one command to start an armel shell (openmoko-armel-shell)

No extra configuration required.

==== IDE Plugins ====
People like to see plugins for
* [http://anjuta.sourceforge.net Anjuta]
* [http://www.eclipse.org Eclipse] (some things are possible - see [[Development with Eclipse]].
* [http://www.netbeans.org NetBeans]
* Game engine - Game Creation plugins
evaluate eclipse project [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/index.php Device Software Development Platform Project from eclipse] and subproject [http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/tml/ Tool for Mobile Linux]
* [http://www.kdevelop.org KDevelop]
* [http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/ XCode]
* [http://www.monodevelop.com MonoDevelop]
* [http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/ Microsoft Visual Studio 2005]

==== UI Designer ====
Glade code generation is deprecated, so we don't want to use it. The Gtk+ powers told me that the plan is to have gtk 2.12 (out early 2007) with support for GtkBuilder, a libglade derivative which breaks a bit the XML definition in order to support all the new widgets and properties; as soon as it's in the other ui builders will add support for this format. See also [http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172535 the relevant bug entry]
* Possibly a Landscape (rotated) view for the screen (480x640 *or* 640x480)?

==== Built-in Scripting Language ====
{{Main|Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage}}
There was a [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001909.html fruitful discussion about a built-in scripting language on the mailing list in January.] Many people feel that it is very important for OpenMoko to choose a scripting language to ship as default in the standard OpenMoko firmware.
==== Easy build of the existing autotools - based packages ====
In the ideal case OpenMoko should exist on the top of the usual ./configure - make workflow which is typical for the majority of the C/C++ based open source projects. It should not require to rewrite or even replace the existing Makefile.am files of the project being ported, and it should allow to pass the needed parameters to the project configure script. Maybe OpenMoko project could be a bigger project having one or more (if some are libraries) autotools - based packages in its separate folders and include the proper documentation how to "wire" the standard autotools based package to the OpenMoko infrastructure.

===Foreign Widget Set Bindings ===
==== Qt Integration ====
The Trolltech folks have a great widget library. I'd like to interface OpenMoko with Qt4, so that we can write Qt4 applications for the phone which don't look alienated.

==== Maemo Integration ====
The Maemo folks have created a successful standard for Webpad applications. I'd like to have a set of MaemoMoko and MokoMaemo wrapper classes that allow me add support for running OpenMoko applications on Maemo and vice versa. Perhaps we can get help from the Nokia OSS folks for that.

==== wxWidgets Integration ====
wxWidgets is a cross-platform application framework that's very popular (I'd say, #3 after Qt and Gtk+). On Linux, wxWidgets uses Gtk+ to implement the widgets. It shouldn't be hard to add support for the additional OpenMoko classes to wxWidgets hence supporting the native OpenMoko look and feel for wxWidgets applications.

wxWidgets team wants OpenMoko classes too and we (wxWidgets) plan to include this project as one of our ideas for [http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2007/02/speaking-of-summer.html GSoC 2007]

==== SDL Integration ====
SDL is ''the'' game developer library. There are tons of SDL games out there. We should add OpenMoko support into SDL.

==== Cocoa / GNUstep ====
Allows to use MacOS X as a development platform.

=== Software: Language bindings ===
==== Python bindings ====
Python bindings seem to be a commonly requested feature.

[[User:Mickey]] says, "They are kind of usable on the [http://www.maemo.org Nokia 770], but it's at the lower end of being bearable. We should keep this in mind -- Gtk+ already comes with Python Bindings, so we "just" would need to wrap libmoko*. I would prefer to leave this to the community do though, since it doesn't make sense to start wrapping the API until we have a stable API -- and I can imagine it will take us a couple of months after going open until we can start with stabilizing the libmoko API."

==== C++ bindings ====
There is a whole skilled C++ community coming from the [http://qtopia.net Qtopia] and [http://opie.handhelds.org Opie] projects. If we would consider basing OpenMoko C++ Bindings on [http://www.gtkmm.org/ Gtkmm], then we could drag these guys in.

==== Ruby bindings ====
Ruby and ruby-(gtk|glade) already ported to OpenMoko according to [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-apps/2007-May/000040.html this ] and [http://groups.google.de/group/comp.lang.ruby/browse_thread/thread/6bee9970cf055504 this] mesages. It just have to be included to distribution (only 4.9 MB!)

==== Java bindings ====
People who concentrate on Java programming would like to have the OpenMoko port of some java virtual machine. GNU Classpath team a lot of great work in the past creating easily portable implementation. Sun's recently open sourced code could also be ported.
==== Other bindings ====
* Perl
* C#
* I think you could skip a bunch of these by binding to Dbus; most languages already have Dbus bindings

== Community Support ==

=== [http://projects.openmoko.org projects.openmoko.org] ===
Infrastructure for developers with
* One bugzilla for all projects (makes moving bugs forth and backwards between projects ''very'' easy)
* One mailing list for project

== Platform ==
=== Community Images ===
In the future there could be complete, unofficial "product images" that are created by the community, for example maybe one that incorporates only free software (in the GNU or OSI sense). Or images build with a particular niche market in mind -- a student for example.

=== Wishlist voting ===
There could be a kind of voting system like they have at one of those big computer manufacturers homepage. Then the community could vote for the ideas that are most important to them. This would especially make sense for the hardware wishlist, because the hardware is still the part which can't be done by the community that easily.

Here: [http://www.fevote.com/openmoko OpenMoko suggestion board]

== Software: Additional features ==

===PDA Mode===

There are times when you wish to power up the device and not power up the gsm/cellphone portion of the phone. For example in meetings you might wish to access the PDA side with wifi as is the case for example on an aircraft. On booting some method of booting to pda mode would be good - several other phones offer this feature.

===Driving Mode===

It may be forbidden in many countries, but many people use their cell phones while driving. With the touchscreen phones
this is very dangerous: You have to stare at the tiny numbers on the screen and try to hit them with your thumb or try to decipher tiny script of contacts, while steering with the other hand. There should be a configurable driving mode where the interface has a reduced functionality (e.g. only contacts and dialing) with HUGE interface buttons that are easy to use with limited attention.

===Calling===

==== Mask ID based on dialed numbers ====
It would be nice if my number only showed up when I call people in my address book and was otherwise masked. The phone I have now either always shows my number or never or can be set on a per call basis. Having it done automatically based on the number dialed would be good.

==== Use calling cards and similar routing techniques for lower-cost calling ====
Many people use calling cards, low-cost numbers and similar ways of reducing the costs of their calls. It would be nice to have a single panel that would allow you to configure the rules of dialing a number taking in to account such systems.

==== Outgoing black/white lists ====
The ability to allow or deny outoging calls to certain numbers can be useful in a number of situations (e.g. the holder of the 'phone is a child, untrusted, etc.). This could be related to entries in the contact list, for example a user is only allowed to call people who are in their contact list.

Also lists for incoming calls? Some friends always come through, unknown numbers get rejected automatically.

==== Time-based blocking/unblocking of calls ====
Allowing or disallowing outgoing calls at certain times of the day could be useful, e.g. blocking a business phone from making calls outside of business hours.

====Speaker-phone====
* A speaker-phone is more than simply connecting the speakers to GSM audio, it's also echo cancellation, and eliminating the feedback that will otherwise happen between the speakers and the mic. This software has not been written.

====Advanced Airtime Tracking====
Many phone users have complicated plans, things like unlimited incoming, 100 anytime minutes, 1000 evening minutes, etc. It would be nice if a user could input the various monthly airtime chunks their plan gives them, and then the phone could track how much is left in each chunk, i.e. How much anytime minutes are left this month? Optionally, the software could warn when someone is close to the monthly limit, to help avoid bigger bills.
On (at least some) prepaid [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstructured_Supplementary_Service_Data USSD] can be used to check current balance.

* Call duration should consider billing increments and show the durations according to accounting period

==== Anti-stutter software ====
Delayed Auditory Feedback (DAF) has shown to reduce stuttering in individuals by 70%. By using the microphone, it should be pretty simple to implement this on the OpenMoko. The DAF functionality should also be present during phone calls. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_auditory_feedback for more information.

====Minimize In-Call mode (check address book while in call)====
On my locked phones I always find it annoying that one can not use other features while a call is in progress. In particular, I'd like to access the address book so that we can (1) give a caller someone else's phone number (or other info) and (2) lookup a phone number when using a calling card or some other proxy.

Similar request when using the browser (lookup passwords, todo list, etc).

====Hold Music (Ringback Tone)====
On some cellphone networks you can pay to change the normal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringback_tone Ringback Tone] that the caller hears when ringing, to a customised sound.
This can partially be implemented on the phone.
Issues are:
*In countries where callers pay, this will make you unpopular.
*In countries where the called party pays, it will use your minutes, or cost you money.
**A list of people to activate this function for would alleviate this.
*[[GPRS]] internet connection will stall while the hold music is being played.
*Extra battery used when playing music.

Also see [[Answering Machine]].

====Play sound clips over the air====
Dialer could have a tab with big buttons which, when push, send sound clips over GSM to the person on the other end of the call. This feature is included in GizmoProject and is called sound blasts: http://support.gizmoproject.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=104
The buttons can have default sounds, but also have the ability to be customized.

It would also be useful for notifying people why you can't talk (for example, having an "I can't talk tight now - I'm in the library - this is a pre-recorded message" would be good. Also perhaps you could loop a pre-recorded sound in the background so you can lie about where you are, and have the ability to simulate a really bad connection.

==== DTMF Landline Dialing ====
The ability to hold the Neo near the microphone of a landline handset and have the Neo dial the landline by sounding DTMF tones. The DTMF tones could be generated in software or be pre-recorded files.

Graphically this could be done by adding a 'DTFM dial' button to a context menu. The user would select a contact then presses the 'DTMF dial' button to start the process. A small delay could also be added to allow time to put the Neo near the landline handset.

For the Neo to know which area code to use (or not use) the current or last GPS coordinates could be utilised.

==== Conversation Recorder ====

An option to record phone conversations. Would be helpful to have the device always recording for every call, with the sound data encoded to low quality Ogg Vorbis or SPEEX and stored in RAM. At the end of the conversation the user would have the option to save to flash or discard the conversation. This idea could also be applied to voicemail so you could save voicemails locally.

====Unlicensed Mobile Access (UMA)====
T-Mobile recently rolled out a UMA service that hands off calls between the GSM network and WiFi access points. Only a few phones support it right now, this could be a rather unique feature if OpenMoko can implement it.

This can be combined with a GPS map to show where local free hubs are.

==== Ignore-Call Button ====
{{Main|Wishlist:Ignore Call Button}}

Shut up a ringing phone, without accepting or rejecting the call.

Another alternative might be to use microphone to recognize when the user gives an audible "Shhh!" command. This could prove difficult to determine with the simultaneous ringing, and possible in-pocket shuffling noises.

A really usable feature is to "reject with SMS/text message" - letting the user reply the caller choosing a previously setup template or typical response: "I'm in a meeting - I'll call you later" or "Can't take your call now, please call back in 10 minutes". This feature typically is a much better way to get your co-workers (ie boss) to back off, than to silently ignore the call.

The accelerometers could be queried while the phone is ringing to detect a firm tap on the phone. This would avoid the delays of fumbling to remove the phone from one's pocket to silence the ringer when you've forgotten to set it to silent mode. Just firmly tap the phone through your pocket, and the ringer will silence, like some Motorola pagers. Maybe single tap = silence; double tap = (activate voicemail or preset SMS).

==== Voice Mailbox ====
{{Main|Voice Mailbox}}
On-Phone voice mailbox that records calls on the phone and retrieves voice messages from your mobile service provider's voice mailbox and saves them locally.
Can act profile-dependent.

==== Hold Button ====

Similar to mute, but plays a sound file for the user on the other end while they wait. The sound file could be chosen in some setup beforehand.

==== Unanswered Call, Fast Call ====

In Greece because of the various bill programs some people call a mobile phone, rings one time and then hangup.
Then the user of the mobile phone calls the other user(using the CallerID recognition).

===Audio===

==== Ambient Noise Detection ====
{{Main|Wishlist:Software:Ambient Noise Detection}}

Using the microphone to detect ambient noise the ringtone volume could be adjusted automatically.

If the ambient noise exceeds a preset threshold, the ring vibrator could be activated. This is good for when people forget to enable vibrate mode when entering noisy environments.

Detection of ambient noise could also be used to subtract the noise from the audio signal. However this approach is best performed using two Microphones, one for the voice and the other to detect the noise.

==== Active noise control ====

Using the microphone to do [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-noise active noise control] on media player playback or telephone calls. This should be an independent module/library which can be used by any application which might require this feature. also provide a way to easily alter the parameters of the active noise control.

==== Hear Impaired Mode ====

Hearing impaired people need louder speaker(but with less volume than hands free) and equalized sound, based on their hearing problems(example 20dB hearing loss from 2KHz to 4KHz).
Older people 50+ years old need slower speech rate(time stretch, cut the big speech gups) and cleaner voice.

Please note also the Hearing Aid Compatibility regulations in the US. I have tried to summarize and clarify them [http://quux.wiki.zoho.com/WhereAreHACphones.html here]. I haven't yet discovered whether the FIC device is M or T rated. For many hearing impaired users, a tcoil coupling to their hearing aid (t3/T4 rating) would be preferable to manipulating sound output in other ways.

==== Mute Button ====

Button to temporarily disable microphone while talking for applications such as telephone, audio recording and (when available) movie recording.

===Web Browser===

==== Full-page Zoom Support ====
Full page zoom is a very good feature. If possible, people would want to browse the internet with normal layout than a distorted one. It's best if I could double-tap a text or image block and zoom to a fit size.

The [[BigPageWidget]] proposal suggests 'Full Page Zoom' should be implemented as a widget available to all applications.

* If the processor and memory could afford, it is good to just use [http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.0a8/releasenotes/ Firefox 3] in OpenMoko. It has implemented latest gecko's full-page-zoom ability. With certain modification, we could do the same zoom like iPhone's Safari.
* Firefox 3 may be a big eater. A cut-down version of it may be good enough.
* If this is not practical, Minimo with full-page-zoom ability is good.

==== Plugins Support ====
* While an extensive browser plugin system would be costly to the efficacy of the platform four particular browser plugins as poplularized by Mozilla firefox should be adapted to the web-browser, namely: [http://noscript.net/ noscript], [http://adblockplus.org/en/ adblock plus], [http://www.greasespot.net/ greasemonkey] and [http://www.foxmarks.com/ foxmarks].
* Careful use of these can dramatically reduce bandwidth, page space, and rendering costs even if it comes at the risk of some hard drive space in the form of block lists.
* Greasemonkey, in particular, gives users control to set up scripts for commonly traveled pages to further reduce unnecessary or unwanted content.

==== Widget support ====
Built-in browser with the ability to install widget shortcuts (aka links) in the main phone menu, also some apis for interfacing with the other functionality of the phone like adding contacts, reading contacts, reading gps-psoition etc.. (maybe there is some defacto widget standard that could be used)

There is a [http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/ W3C spec] being developed, which may not be exactly what the original proposal had in mind, but it is about writing simple applications with HTML, SVG and JavaScript. It is mainly Opera's work, and while most [http://widgets.opera.com/ developed widgets are not very useful], there are some that are, and it creates a very nice development platform, especially for mobile devices. So, I think it makes an awful lot of sense for OpenMoko to support this spec.

===Media===
====Music/Video Software====
A real good programming area for competition with the iPhone, a singular video/music player would be great for multimedia. A seamless integration system, a la iTunes and iPod, would be extremely popular.

Using the Wi-Fi connectivity, a separate music program that supports wireless music sharing/ streaming (similar to what can be done when two computer running iTunes that are both on the same network) and that also supports internet radio.

It would also be nice to have some kind of "announce your musical taste" mode. This could be implemented using last.fm profiles, such that when e.g. in a crowded place a user nearby has a similar musical taste, both users get notified so they can share their music files with each other (perhaps using a photo for id). Great for discovering new music - and making friends!

- Possible copyright issues sharing music files?

Sure, but that's the user's concern, not the developer's. There's no way for us to know which audio files the user is permitted/not permitted to share.

==== Reading Support ====
It would be really great to be able to read :

*PDF
*Open Document files
*Text / RTF files
*fb2 files (fbreader)
*MS Office files
*Aportis Doc (pdb)
*DjVu
*...

In both landscape and portrait

==== Wikipedia Mirror ====
{{Main|Wishlist:Wikipedia_Mirror}}

==== Blog ScribblePad ====

Draw an image (and maybe add some text), then post to your blog.

==== E-Book Reader ====
* Neos brilliant ultra-sharp screen makes for a very good e-book reading device. All it takes is a good e-book reader with touch-screen page turning / scrolling (see the [[BigPageWidget]] proposal). FBReader could probably be adjusted easily by an experienced GTK hacker. Note that e-book reading is different to pure text/pdf displaying as it requires at least auto-bookmarking of the last read page, proper text and image scaling and text formatting.

==== Personal Wiki ====
{{Main|Wishlist:PersonalWiki}}

Display the notes database as a Wiki. Inspiration: [http://www.acrocat.com/AcroWiki/default.asp?lang=en AcroWiki].

[http://www.didiwiki.org/ Didiwiki]

==== Dictionary, thesaurus, translator and flashcards ====
Native lookup dictionary and thesaurus and foreign translation dictionaries, also with support for Asian languages. Optional custom configurable (though preconfigured) interface with on-line versions of dictionaries, thesaurus and translation services.

'''Dictionary'''
Something like [http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~fri/ding/ ding]:

advantages:
* small
* very efficient + useful
* only limited to really needed functions

Support for vocabulary training with flashcard system (also usable for other content than foreign language words!)

==== Flickr uploader ====
A simply, drag & drop uploader, tagger and organizer to upload images on phone to [http://flickr.com Flickr], with support for various languages. A good base could be the cross-platform uploader [http://juploadr.org/ jUploadr], written in Java and working on Windows, Mac and Linux. But, most of all, the best '''GPL''' program which actually do this work is '''[http://mobilepushr.jottit.com/ Mobile Pushr]''', written in C and Cocoa for iPhone, must be probably ported in python to work on OpenMoko.

===PIM (Personal Information Managment)===
====Context Sensitivity====
Any email or sms message or application that contains a telephone number should be click to dial, eg [http://123567890 1234567890]. Addresses link to mapping software too?

==== Notes ====

Something for taking notes would be a nice feature:
[http://www.gnome.org/projects/tomboy/ Tomboy] has some nice syncing features and is gtk based.

Some Screenshots are [http://www.gnome.org/projects/tomboy/images/ here].

==== Calendar ====

A nice calendar application should be implemented in OpenMoko. This tool should have a syncing feature with your desktop computer.
The tool should have a reminder feature and other features like other mobile phones already have.

I think synchronization sould be handled by computer with opensync+syncml based tool, not by calendar itself. --[[User:Antono|Antono]] 12:25, 7 January 2008 (CET)

* If this cellphone is thought also as a PDA, of course it needs a calendar. But I would like to see something better than just a calendar, I was thinking that there could be some application using "fisheye" view. Just like [http://www.cs.umd.edu/hcil/datelens/], though that example seem a bit chaotic. --[[User:Yprum|Yprum]] 22:27, 21 February 2008 (CEST)

==== Address Book ====

* Option to search not just the stored list of addresses, but one or more of the online phonebooks. Probably should be modular to make adding/changing phonebook sites easy. Also allows for future integration with LDAP
servers or whatever.
* Also the possibility to search all info on the contact, like number, email, postal address and so on, in case someone asks you to identify a known number.
* Web-based map-lookup. 'How do I get there from here? (here = current GPS location)' This could also be done
by integrating with whatever on-phone GPS mapping software the Neo ends up using.
* Random text input 'notes' about a contact
* Overall, this should more resemble a Palm-pilot's address-book than your average cellphone's
* Automated Daily backup of phone book to a website archive (similar to Verizon's Back-up Assistant
*Ability to integrate address book with web-based email (such as gmail) account, for those who use web based email as their primary account
* '''[[Wishlist:Tagging|Tagging]]''' Place tags for contacts. Enhance message application to send messages to all contacts tagged with ... . Enhance other application(GPS, ...) with tags.
* Support for:
**[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyncML SyncML]
**[http://abook.sourceforge.net/ abook] a text-based addressbook program
**[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ldap LDAP] address book
**[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDIF LDIF], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xml XML] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values CSV] export and import (when possible).
*Store Bluetooth IDs of friends and notify (configurable only on this device or on both devices) when a one of these Bluetooth ID has been detected (this is more a separate application but has requirements on the address book. Should also be able to create an address book entry from a Bluetooth ID. Could be used as a nice tool to detect people who you're avoiding.
* Support for family relations (explained further on the [[Talk:Wish_List#Address_book:_Support_for_family_relations|talk page]]).

==== Database/List Display/Edit ====
{{Main|Wishlist:PilotDB}}

One of the most useful apps on my Palm Pilot for me is [http://pilot-db.sourceforge.net/ pilot-db]. It's GPL'd.

==== To-Do lists ====

* It'd be nice to have something like [http://www.joesgoals.com Joe's Goals] always available, like my phone is, even when I'm disconnected from the net.
* I would like to be able update my [http://todotxt.com/ todo.txt] which is stored on a personal server from the phone.

==== Context based To-Do list ====
{{Main|Wishlist:context based to-do list}}

If I arrive home and there are "@home" things in the to-do list, the Context based to-do list reminds me of that.

==== Workout ====

Use your phone instead of your notebook while at the gym, and get pretty graphs to admire after you're done.

==== Shopping List ====
keep Track of Prices in different shops and the products you have/don't have. Ideally using a barcode reader and gps.
If it was made aware of recipes it could even tell you what to buy without entering a shoppinglist manually.

==== [[Fuel Log]] ====
File data about fueling your car (date/time, liters, price, mileage, ...) and display some information (costs per month, average consumption, ...).
Advanced features could include:
* Automatically storing the GPS coordinates of the place where the car has been fueled (can be deactivated)
* Sending the data to a central server which collects the information ( spritmonitor.de, anything else ?)
* Let the OpenMoko receive fuel logs per SMS (e.g. if my wife with a non-openmoko mobile fuels the car and wants to file the data using her mobile phone)
* Let the OpenMoko device act as SMS gateway for non-openmoko devices to easily send the data to the central server
* Also support for air log for divers. Not that you will take this device under water but for the crew at the surface.

==== Keep in touch reminder ====
A background application which keeps track of your friends and reminds you when you have not talked, SMS, IM or mailed a person for more than # days.

==== Menstruation period timer ====
Fill in statistics and compute probabilities for menstruation, fertility, mood.
See http://www.getjar.com/products/48/MyGirls

==== Tagging ====
{{Main|Wishlist:Tagging}}
Tags can be used by various applications. Requirement is interoperability for further enhancement.
Tags should be applied to contacts, calendar events, mail/sms, calls, places(GPS) and files.
http://tracker-project.org has all needed tagging-and-searching functionality and ready to be used on low-resourced devices.

==== Exchange Integration ====

Once there is good TCP/IP connectivity on this phone, integration with corporate email/calendar/to do/contacts/etc servers would be a big advantage... near-real-time automatic email downloads and automatic bi-directional syncing are productivity boosters that you have to experience to appreciate. It turns your phone from a 'nice gadget to fiddle with' to a natural-feeling extension of your day-to-day life.

* Is the time right to name names ? Add as your liking...
** Plugin/integration to & from Kontact
** Same with Evolution - Thunderbird - Seamonkey
** ?? Google Calendars ?? (this one is tough)
** Ms Exchange

==== An electronic wallet ====

A database which stores securely PIN codes, login data, bank and email accounts, membership informations, and other valuable and private data. Entries can be ordered in a folder-like manner. Access to the database is given by a master password. The database as well as the master password are stored with strong encryption. For security reasons, the program asks again for entry of the master password after a certain period of inactivity. The database can be synchronized with a PC application (ideally written in Java for cross platform compatibility).

Examples: KWallet [http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeutils/kwallet/index.html], Viskeeper [http://www.sfr-software.de/cms/EN/pocketpc/viskeeperpro/index.html], KeePass [http://keepass.info/]

==== Easy business card sharing for a small group (in the same room) over bluetooth or WIFI ====

Six Neo1973 owners are having a chat in a cafe. They agree to split but meet later. They want to exchange their numbers with each other before they go.... The normal way to do this is for a rather longwinded repeating of numbers to each other, or half the people manually inputting numbers before phoning/texting the other half to complete the process. All in all its a fair number of button presses to get it sorted.

Instead the NEO could have a small app where the phones link up in a small peer to peer Bluetooth network and share automatically with one person initiating a request and the other detected NEOS agreeing/acknowledging the share. The initiating NEO would then sync the mini-group automatically by interrogating each phone and then sending the table of results. The NEOs would have to be clever about checking for duplicates in the address book and offering a choice to the user if there are any conflicts.

PROS:
*genuine saving in time for social and business situations

CONS:
*I am sure there are some security hassles to be pondered....
*not going to be used every day... definitely not an immediate priority.....
*only at geek conferences will all have a neo....

==== SMS Counter ====

An application which shows on the today-screen how many SMS i've already sent in this actual month. Some have for example 150 free SMS to write each month. With that program you can see all the time how many SMS are left until the end of the period. As an alternative it could be a counter which counts backwards from a predefined number over a defined period.

==== Data Storage ====

Store all the data about communications with a contact (SMS, MMS, phone calls, emails, IM, etc) in a database and make them available in one list or one timeline.
Make this list available through the address book.
This would be great for people who are switching between one or more communication channels frequently

===Profiles===
{{Main|Wishlist:Profiles}}

The Wishlist:Profiles page documents many possible profiles - ways to configure the phone. Including ways to respond to calls, wifi and GPS events.
And how to automatically switch between them.

===Text Messaging===
For '''Text Input related ideas''' see [[Wishlist:Text_Input]]. Bear in mind that T9 can not be included
For current development status of the messaging-app see: [[Messages]].

There are many useful options that now can be used to full capacity:

* '''Instant Messaging'''
Bringing a new GTK gui or a resized Qt gui out for the serverless Instant Messenger http://Retroshare.sf.net

* '''Acknowledge/status SMS'''
In GSM networks so-called acknowledge-SMS are sent back to the SMS's dispatcher in order to indicate that the primal sms was received (as message delivery is only best effort and is not guaranteed). So in the SMS dialog there could be equal sized buttons with captions as 'send only', 'send and receive delivery status message' and 'send and notify (e.g. ring) when delivery succeeded'.

** '''Special handling of status-SMS'''
Related to the previous entry, these acknowledgment-sms' should be handled in a different way than normal SMS'. Most Motorola do this, while Samsung SGH series don't & clog the inbox, warn of a "new" message upon Status notification: Delivery Status Messages should be stored in a separate menu so they don't bloat the received-folder and you are able to quickly review the status of the messages you had sent.
* '''SMS at time/date''' You could be able to set up messages that are sent at a certain time/date
* '''Binary SMS''' Send binary SMS. Could be used to feign WAP pushes. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Messaging_Service] See:
** Resource for SMS encoding: [http://web.archive.org/web/20021016104345/www.dreamfabric.com/sms/] [http://web.archive.org/web/20060411222332/] [http://home.student.utwente.nl/s.p.ekkebus/portfolio/resource/sms_pdu.html] [http://www.ihub.com/Binary%20Messages.htm]
** [http://www.gammu.org www.gammu.org] - you can use Gammu/Gammu+ source for this software and/or understanding various SMS formats including EMS, WAP, Nokia Smart Messaging, Siemens & Alcatel encoding ([[User:Marcin|I could]] eventually help)
** Resource for SMS encoding (German): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS-Kodierung
** The infamous pocketpc-attack: http://www.mulliner.org/pocketpc/
* '''Profile-override-SMS''' SMS that start with a certain code word override the silent profile and have the phone ring. So someone could alert you in case of some emergency.
* '''Codeword-SMS''' An expansion of the above: check for code words and allow selectable tones for matches. E.g. "Server Down!" has a loud klaxon, "Disk Warning" has a quiet chirp.
* '''(De-)Abreviation-script''' Implement a script that de-abbreviates: "hi m8 u k?-sry i 4gt 2 cal u lst nyt-y dnt we go c film 2moz" becomes "Hi mate. Are you okay? I am sorry that I forgot to call you last night. Why don't we go and see a film tomorrow?" (taken from: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_language])
** Implement a script that abbreviates :-)
* '''Anti-Spam''' ...feature for SMS. May be it's possible to port some Bayesian based application like bogofilter.
* '''Rule based authorizations''' ...for received messages. For example, delete messages from one source between 9h00 and 18h00 (workday) allow them otherwise (to get alerting messages).
* '''Enable chat-like SMS-viewing''' SMS-Email-like: retain SMS app, but store 'conversations' rather than pile-up. Group/archive conversations by Caller Group (Work / Friends / Home / any user-defined Caller Group). Show appropriate icon from either Caller Group or Caller ID at the source of conversations panel
* '''Searching''' allow full-text search or string search.
* '''Massive SMS Deletion''' based on Conversation, author, before-date-xx.xx.xxxx, caller group, [[Wishlist:Tagging|tags]]...
* '''Call Back''' Prompt 'Call Back' alongside other first-line options (Delete, Save number,.. this kind of options) that appear when reading an SMS.
* '''Non-destructive deletion''', deleted messages goes to trash, and are recoverable.
* '''SMS-EMail-Gateway'''
SMS comes in, gets forward to your inbox, like any other piece of mail. Appropriate alerts and etc occur - again, just like for email. A simple SMTPD running on 127.0.0.1 that is hooked to an email-to-SMS translator that will send email addressed to 'SMS@localhost' (or whatever special address) out via SMS
* '''SMS-filter chain''', for stuff like Codeword-SMS above, Theft-mode activation, auto-response (reply with gsm-position for "Where are you?"), auto-substitution (like replace $POS with gsm-position in outgoing SMS).
* '''SCROOGE-SMS''' This is an intelligent SMS router. When you write your SMS you get the option of how to send it
** By standard carrier SMS - cost 10cents
** By OpenMoko SCROOGE SERVER - this will send your SMS to the OpenMoko Community SCROOGE SERVER next time you have WiFi - the phone will remind you to turn on WiFi when it knows you are in places where you have WiFi access. The person you are sending to picks up when they come into WiFi Range. This comes with an intelligent reminder that tells you that message has still not been delivered in 24 hours and would you now like to send it by a paymethod. This is better than IM because both parties do not have to have WiFi at the same time. - cost FREE
** By email/Wifi - cost FREE
** By email/GPRS - cost ?
** Too many options!!!
** Alternatively SCROOGE SERVER could auto launch IM client if it detects both parties have WiFi at the same time (Status kept on SCROOGE SERVER?) to allow instant reply..... Person who receives has the option to reply in SMS or in IM or in VOIP phone.

=== Text input ===
{{Main|Wishlist:Text Input}}
There are many good suggestions for text input on the specific text input ideas page.

=== More/Custom Input Method Widgets ===
{{Main|Wishlist:More/Custom_Input_Method_Widgets}}
Additional and customizable Input Method Widgets (similar to virtual keyboard).
This could add soft-key functionality to games or other applications such as:
*D-Pads
*buttons
*virtual trackballs
*...
Personalized layouts could be associated with each application.

=== Games ===
{{Main|Wishlist:Games}}

=== Mesh Networking ===
{{Main|Wishlist:Mesh Networking}}

=== Printing Support ===
It would be really neat to be able to print over either bluetooth, Wifi, or USB. I can imagine wanting to print:

* Notes
* Maps
* Email
* Calendars
* ...

Cups contains a bluetooth printing backend, so (in theory) once you have your data in postscript format, you could hand it to cups and it'll do the rest. In practice, it depends on

# GTK+'s printing support
# Making cups run on a really small system

{{note| GTK+'s printing support seems to be very immature in 2.6 (which we need to use for some time). Gtk+ 2.10 contains much better printing support -- once we can use this, it should be more easy.}}

There's always the possibility to render postscript ourselves, but this is not a piece of cake -- in general, printing is much harder than one would imagine.

Further details:
* [http://groups.osdl.org/apps/group_public/download.php/2205/print-summit-gtk.pdf#search=%22gtk%2B%20printing%20API%22 osdl.org]
* [http://www.gnome.org/~alexl/presentations/guadec2006-printing.pdf#search=%22gtk%2B%20printing%20API%22 gnome.org]
* [http://www.j5live.com/?p=204 j5live.com]

===Misc Software===
====Clocks/timers/Activity meters====
===== Sport tracker =====
{{Main|Wishlist:Sport_tracker}}
Sport tracker can be used to measure the distance/velocity from point A to point B (or it could have several intermediate stopping points) using GPS. This would be extremely useful for running, biking, hiking, etc.

===== Standby clock =====
{{Main|Wishlist:Standby_clock}}
A quick way to see what time it is.

===== Egg Timer =====
{{Main|Wishlist:EggTimer}}

Very simple (one click) count up / count down timers are very useful.

===== Cycle Computer =====
As already mentioned by [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Technil Technil], a cycle computer could be created using gps. The sensor at the bike's wheel could transmit data via bluetooth or some cable that would be attached to an openmoko device. In order to save power, one could switch off the gps and only use the bike's sensor.
* Just another idea that came to me: Why don't have sensor's transmit cable plug into the headphone/microphone plug? A tool reads the signals created by the induction of the passing magnet, then gives them to the cycle-computer-app :) --[[User:Minime|Minime]] 19:50, 12 April 2007 (CEST)

===== NTP Server =====

Run the [http://www.ntp.org NTP] daemon using the GPS chipset as a reference clock, so that the Neo would have a very accurate time-of-day clock and would be able to serve time to other networked devices.

I don't know what it would take to implement this. Items to consider would be the availability of a 1 pulse-per-second hardware signal, the accuracy of timestamps delivered in NMEA messags, etc. Dealing with power-management issues (such as the device going to sleep) would also be challenging.

===== Find Keys/locate stuff =====

This would require an additional accessory: a tag which transmits a signal that the Openmoko device can pick up. The tag could for example be attached with a ring loop to your keys, put in your wallet, or be attached with high strength adhesive strips to your remotely controlled aircraft. Whenever you can't find back your keys, wallet, RC aircraft,... you activate this application. When the device picks up the signal of the tag, it translates it to clear audio and visual prompts to guide you in the right direction.

A commercial device that offers this functionality is the [http://loc8tor.com/ loc8tor]. Having this in the Openmoko phone would obliviate the need for a separate device. Murphy's law dictates that you'll only loose your keys when you don't know any more where you've put the loc8tor tracking device. But you're bound to always have your phone with you.

Additionally, you could also set a safety perimeter. Whenever a tagged item moves more then X meters from the phone, a signal will be given.

For a related idea, see [[Wishlist#Dude.2C_Where.27s_My_Car.3F|Dude, Where's my car]].

===== Reality check reminder =====
{{Main|Wishlist:Reality check reminder}}

A tool to [http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=64&id=16 hack your brain]

===== Automatic timezone changing (GPS) =====

Check the timezone with GPS and adapt them.

====Calculators====
===== A Universal Unit Converter Tool =====

One never knows when one may have to convert acre-feet into deciliters. A unit conversion tool makes all engineers and engineer wannabes much happier. And not only the engineers.

Ideas what kind of conversions a converter tool could do:

Length
- Acceleration
- Angle
- Angular Velocity
- Area
- Capacitance
- Radioactivity
- Currency
- Charge
- Computer Memory
- Conductance
- Density
- Energy
- Illumination
- Power
- Force
- Flow
- Pressure
- Speed
- Temperature
- Time
- Torque
- Viscosity
- Volume
- Weight

Roman Numerals
- ASCII, Hex
- Cooking
- BMI
- Clothing Sizes

Money Converter based on current rates from Internet...
e. g. Dollar <-> Euro

Physical and Mathematical Constants
GPS conversions

- link to or integration of a scientific calculator
- link to or integration of a simple calculator

A good basis for such a converter tool could be the Palm program "units" from
François Pessaux [http://francois.pessaux.neuf.fr/files/units1_11.tgz]. The GPL'd program comes with full documentation.

For GPS conversions see gpsbabel [http://www.gpsbabel.org]

===== An Postfix Notation (RPN) calculator =====

Many engineers, computer scientists and other groups who have grown to enjoy the simplicity and ease of an postfix notation calculator will miss them when they give up other platforms to move to OpenMoko. A RPN calculator will increase adoption by providing one of the tools that other platforms have provided for many years.

==== Windows CE Emulator ====

On ARM machine, Windows CE API emulator, like Wine on x86 machines.

==== PalmOS Emulator ====

The Access group is probably coming out with their Linux platform any time soon. One of the components is a PalmOS emulator which I'd like to see working on OpenMoko as well. There are literally thousands of PalmOS apps.

I'd like to see a Windows CE Emulator with active sync support.

==== Chumby Emulator ====

Would be very cool if the neo can act as a chumby. see http://chumby.com for more details about a chumby.

==== TV Guide ====
Display a TV guide using [http://xmltv.org xmltv].
Something like [http://mtvg.sourceforge.net/ Maxemum TV-Guide] (QT)

==== Alcohol meter ====
Give the phone some info about your body (gender, size, weigth) and when/what you drink and it will compute an approximation of the amount of alcohol in your blood. Updates automatically, could have an alarm, when you are probably sober again.
See, for example (German text) http://www.misterio-online.de/promille.htm

==== Interaction with LEGO Mindstorm ====
With the accelerometers, GPS and good CPU, the phone could be used to control/serve as input with robots built with LEGO Mindstorm, which can be accessed by USB and Bluetooth.

==== Flashlight ====
Simple finger application that makes every pixel on the entire screen white to be as bright as possible until you tap the screen again to turn it off. This way, you can use your Neo as a (short term) flashlight!

==== Wii Controller Emulator ====
Use the accelerometers and buttons on screen to work as a Wii controller via Bluetooth.

==== FUSE support ====
Ability to use FUSE to mount larger file systems over wireless. (even gmailfs, sshfs, etc.)

=== Accessibility ===
Accessibility features for the visually impaired.
* High Contrast Themes.
* Screen Magnifier. Features should include automatic cursor tracking when navigating menus and entereing text and provide manual controls to zoom in on other section of the screen.
* Text to speech. The software should read out menu item ,contact lists ,text messages etc. Would also be useful for operating the phone while driving. see: [[Wishlist:Speech synthesis]]

==== VOIP ====
* [[Dialer]] should be able to use SIP.
Ability to use the phone for VOIP over wi-fi such as Vonage. They currently have 2 different pieces of software for pc . Basically software creates a mac address which is paired with your Vonage account. Skype could also be implemented but I prefer Vonage. Only available when connected to wi-fi with a good connection. Phone treats calls the same as a cellular call, could keep a separate log of minutes, ability to record conversations, etc. Option to use VOIP if connection is available automaticly or manually. Small icon to show when call is using VOIP.
* A standard SIP client would probably fit better into the "free and open" philosophy.
* Ideally a SIP client that includes ZRTP/SRTP for secure communications.
(Note: Vonage will not give you your SIP credentials, so you cannot log into their network with a non-approved softphone. Other VoIP providers have different policies.)

''This seems very similar to what [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Access_Network UMA] offers.''

Asterisk is a great communication platform that can run on small devices. I have an Asterisk server running on a Nokia 770 and I read about running Asterisk on an iPhone. With the crosscompiler available it sould be possible to compile it and run Asterisk on an openmoko phone and let it take care of almost everything on the wishlist below.
Edw/

==== Power Meter ====
If the power bar is clicked on it will show time left on charge and if charging it will show time until full.

Also a rrdtool type of configurable timespan/frequency graphical overview would be very cool and usefull to some people?

=== Accelerometer wishes ===
==== Flick interface ====
Ability to "flick" the phone for page up/down by simply and rapidly tilting the phone back-and-forth for up and forth-and-back for down. The same motion can be implemented for sideways motion. This will take advantage of the 2 3d accelerators.

Sensitivity of the scrolling should be configurable and a test option provided.

==== Reading navigation of documents enhanced by accelerometers ====
If the two accelerometers in Neo1973 allows it, it will be nice if when you're reading, give a newspaper, you can move up, down, left and to the right the viewing of the document just moving the phones to the corresponding direction.

I don't know if this is possible (haven't seen the project in detail yet) but this feature could be very attractive for final users (and this is good). (sorry for my english but i'm italian)

==== Wand UI ====
In keeping with the requests to think outside of the box... the dual 3d accelerometers should enable a 'magic wand'-style UI for certain uses. Macros could be recorded and edited, or presets could be used. For example, flipping the device playfully could initiate a game mode or could signal the end of the work day.
==== Panning interface ====
Some applications display underlying data that is larger than the screen. Typically they let you pan across the data using scroll bars.

In cases where the data is only (say) 3 or 4 screens wide or high, it may be very intuitive to just shift the hand held device a few centimeters to the left or right, up or down to pan in that direction. The screen would appear to be a hole into the world of the data, and you're just moving the hole to look at something else.

When the underlying data is very large, you obviously wouldn't want to use this mechanism unaltered; you'd have to walk to the next room to see the data 100 screens away. Instead different accelerations can be used for different panning sizes. This is the same adaption used for accelerated mouse pointers typical on touch pads. A quick flick moves the mouse pointer fast and far. A slower drag over the same area on a touch pad moves the pointer slower and with more precision.

==== Shake-to-Wake ====
Giving the phone a shake enables voice commands for a few seconds.
Usage Examples:

* {Shake} "Call" ''ContactName'' ''PhoneType''
* {Shake} "Call John Mobile" (Calls John's mobile)
* {Shake} ''ApplicationName''
* {Shake} "Reader" (Opens the e-book application)

Would require a method of inputting voice tags for applications and contacts and obviously will only work for P2 (accelerometers)
But lets get voice command functionality working before P2 (just by pressing a button on the screen instead of shaking)

I think that is possibly to replace "Shake" with double hit with finger in the side of phone. Proper algorithms(with accelerometers) should recognize any similar activities.

==== Emergency call ====
When the accelerometer detects a great acceleration (i.e. 5G) start a countdown sequence, if it is not stopped make a call to a preconfigured emergency number. If the data from the GPS is accurate give it.

A first version could use a recorded message (an audio file). In next version it could use a synthesizer, so it can give more information (add GPS information when it is ready).

:I would worry that most such events would be false positives, and hard to distinguish from the real thing. A user dropping their phone (an event very common in the life of any cellphone) is far more likely than a user being in a car accident with their phone, and the clatter of a cell phone on asphalt could reach 5G. Additionally, it has to be very hard to distinguish hitting pavement from hitting a windshield, as from a physics standpoint the two are the same thing. [[User:Hashbrowncipher|Hashbrowncipher]] 02:06, 26 October 2007 (CEST)
::It could use the gps data to calculate the speed it is traveling with. Let's say it has been moving for more than 50 km/h for more than 10 seconds. Then it could activate the "emergency call if more than 5g" function. Aside from the countdown timer, it could increase the volume to max and warn the user that an automatic emergency call will take place in x seconds. While it is counting down it could listen for "Never mind, I'm fine, phone" and stop the countdown in case it hears that. It could also output the warning sound to the attached bluetooth headset and let the user talk to emergency services if the user is still conscious. [[User:Tommy|Tommy]] 17:48, 8 January 2008 (CET)
:::Perhaps have the phone yell loudly that it's about to do the emergency call for a decent amount of time, disabled by touching the screen or entering the pin number. In the case of any bluetooth device attached to the user, the phone could check to see if it's in range before calling. [[User:sin|sin]]

==== Movement detection ====
By detecting that the owner is walking a user defined profile can be activated with a specific set of notification settings. For example you may wish to use a cheap old sounding ringtone so you don't attract attention from muggers. Or you may wish to have a louder ringtone if you carry your phone in a bag where it can't be so easily heard.

==== Games ====
Imagine a first person shooter that you look around by turning your body.

==== Sloshing battery indicator ====
Shaking the phone will produce a sloshing sound, as if it contained a liquid. As the battery loses charge, so the sound produced on being shaken, will replicate a decreasingly empty container. [http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/28/1342248] for an example.
==== Steady screen ====
It may be hard to read the screen when the device is shaking from some source of vibration. E.g.
* being mounted inside a vehicle
* during certain sports
* while the internal vibrator is activated (perhaps)
The accelerometers could be used to determine the frequency of the shaking and to make the screen appear to be steady by offsetting the contents at the same frequency in the opposite direction. If this was handled by the graphics processor it might not even be an intensive operation or produce significant battery usage.

At slower movements, (say just being held in an older unsteady hand) the accelerometer data could be fed directly into the screen offset. This would allow you to compensate for unpredictable movements.

Such a mode would cancel out shaking, producing what would appear to be a slightly smaller but steady screen. (Smaller because pixels at the edge of the screen may have ''any'' screen in the same location in the next fraction of the vibration). Gross movements that move the screen to an entirely different position would not be cancelled, effectively 'panning' to keep up with the large movement.

In situations where the hand is not experiencing the same source of vibration that the screen is, the areas of touch sensitivity should be offset at the same time as the screen. So a steady hand touching a vibrating screen isn't interpretted by the application software as a vibrating hand.

These features would best be implemented in the rendering and touch libraries so they could be activated for all applications.

==== Taping as input ====
If I understand correctly the accelerometer should be capable to be used as a simple input. When OpenMoko is in the pocket, simple taps against the pocket should be possible to use as input. For example when there is an incoming call and the user is notified using a headset then one tap would accept the call and two concurrent taps against the pocket would cancel it. This can also be used for lot more.

==== Others ====
Also see the pages[[Wishlist:Auto Align Map]], [[Wishlist:Determine Position]], [[Distance Measuring]], [[Wishlist:Computer Mouse]], [[Wishlist:Dynamic Screen Orientation]].

=== Connectivity ===

==== VNC ====
A good, stylus friendly VNC client/host combo would be easy to add and terribly useful.

==== Networked X-Windows ====

Whether it's running true X-Windowing over the network, or your bog-standard VNC connection as mentioned above, the ability to have your phone's screen available on your laptop or palmtop would be most desirable.

==== NX client ====

A form of X-windows forwarding optimized for performance over slow, or high-latency links, which could prove extremely useful. Capable of streaming a good quality, full desktop session over modem speeds. The protocol and at least one implementation is gpl'd. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_technology wikipedia]

==== OpenOffice Presenter Control ====

I Think it is a good idea to control your OO Presentation with Openmoko about WLAN or Bluetooth.
I think it needs some buttons to go back or forward and control the mouse to show something and take normal mouse clicks.
But with the mouse clicks I think that we need a short time between the clicks in example 1 second. Because when you make a mouse
click than to fast than you must go back.

Some similar functionality will be implemented during SoC 08. More info at [[OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller]]

==== Amarok and other Media Player remote control ====

Control Amarok or any other Media Player with OpenMoko (as a remote control). Bluetooth or WLAN could be used as protocol to send and receive the data. Maybe a WebInterface of Amarok is a start. Can be used on parties for a mobile music management.

==== Read informations with SMS ====
Send a SMS with Code to the OpenMoko (from a specific number).
For example to send get the GPS coordinates from a stolen Neo (or if you don't know where your Neo is).

=== Security ===

==== General Filesystem Encryption ====

If anyone wants to get your private data saved on your OpenMoko device, he should have to get through a high security mechanism like dm-crypt. The question is how much CPU power would be needed.
Would it be an idea to encrypt only the private data like phone numbers, preferences, address book etc. (like /home/$USER).

http://luks.endorphin.org

==== My Account ====
{{Main|My Account}}
A way to securely store information about the phone, and ensure that a phone you may be considering purchasing is not stolen.

==== [http://zfoneproject.com/ Zfone] or similar ====

Something that allows the user to speak with another person securely.

==== GSM Encryption ====

This software application would allow GSM encrypted calls to be made using the GSM Data Call Channel.

[[OSvS]]

==== My Voice is my Passport ====
Use voice recognition to unlock the phone. "Hi. My name is ... My voice is my passport. Verify me."

==== Firewall ====
A network firewall

==== Full Mac Support ====
Full mac support, preferably with full software and full sync capabilities with iCal and iMail

==== Anti Theft Application ====

This application would enter the phone into an [[Anti-Theft Mode]] which activates particular security features to reduce the risk of theft and also to ensure a higher probability of recovery of a stolen handset.

====RFID based personal alerts====
Assuming an RFID reader is available: You'd put an RFID tag on your keys, wallet, etc and train a program on the phone to give you a soft or hard alert when one of them leaves detection range. That way, if you're walking away from one of them, the phone could alert you.

Actually there is a RFID reader available. Take a look at this: http://www.wdi.ca/ We only need driver for that thing. .... Well, never mind. I think it doesn't work because of the size. Anyway an interesting idea.

====OpenVPN Client====
This application allows to configure the device as an OpenVPN client using the GUI including support for X.509 certificates.

=== Integrated Help System ===

A help system that is either on or off. It could be activated and deactivated by a [[five-second-press]] on a button, for example the AUX button. When the help system is activated, it will explain the use of any item you touch on screen (with stylus or finger). Example: if you touch the battery icon, it will explain that this shows battery level / remaining time. If you touch the date / time icon, it will explain that this icon shows date and time, and that if you press it, you can set date and time. Primarily, this help system should be able to explain all user interface elements in the main screen, but if it proves popular, it could be expanded to cover other applications as well.

===Performance optimisation===
==== Use DMA engine in CPU for blitter ====
The DMA engine in the CPU can substantially speed up moving of large areas of screen in some cases.

==== Use virtual screen to optimise scrolling ====
In some other cases, the hardware supported virtual screen may also speed it up.
===Reusable Display/UI Widgets===
====Use BigPage for full page zoom, scroll, scale in many apps====
The [[BigPageWidget]] Page decribes a widget that could bring full natural page viewing, scaling, scrolling to the OM platform - allowing all applications to make intuitive UIs. A good way to read documents of any type without reformatting them massively increases the utility of a device with a small screen

==Bluetooth==

=== Voice Dialing ===

Dial by voice commands.
 Dial by dictating phone number. This way we can voice dial any number even if not in our contact list.

=== Music through Bluetooth Headset ===

Music can be played through a Bluetooth headset, but would stop playing when a call comes in.

=== Walkie Talkie ===

Let OpenMoko devices connect to one another via bluetooth or another connection method (GPRS for long distance but high latency, probably Wifi on P2), and hold a conversation.

Features for this applications can be:
* Push To Talk (PTT) button
* Voice Activated Control (VAC) which will set it in transmit mode when input has is detected above a certain predefined level.
* Optionally a full duplex mode
* Different channels to choose from
* Monitor different (preselected or all) channels for traffic.
* Content encryption
* Active noise control
* Allow zero config use (units can talk without any access point helping)
* Overview of all connected people trough sending GPS data to everyone who is in the Walkie Talkie channel

Local (non-GPRS) use cases include chatting while biking
or motorcycling in a group; perhaps also in a car caravan.
This application could also be used as a baby-phone to monitor your siblings.

This would be more useful if the Neo had Class 1 bluetooth, though probable Wifi on P2 will also offer more range.

(One thumbs up from me) Jackcday

See also [[Wish_List#WiFi_Walkie_Talkie|WiFi Walkie Talkie]] and perhaps construct one application that can handle both Bleutooth and Wifi.

=== Automatic Sync ===

Automatically synchronize with desktop computer (or with any [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyncML SyncML] server) when within range based on user profile. This may require the use of a secure data transfer.

=== GPS Assisted Bluetooth Management ===

Allow Bluetooth to automatically turn off after loosing connectivity and to automatically turn back on based upon GPS location.

A Bluetooth device is configured for automatic reacquisition based on the following profiles:
* Manual - only when Bluetooth is on
* Non-mobile - the target device is not mobile, periodically attempt reacquisition when in the general area of the device.
* Mobile - the target device is mobile, periodically attempt reacquisition when in the general area of the device.

Each target device is configured as follows:
* Automatic acquisition at last known location: enable/disable
* Automatic acquisition at these locations: list of nickname + coordinates + range

==== Non-mobile devices ====

Examples devices include: computers

The location and range of the target device is determined via training. Periodically, the current GPS coordinates and Bluetooth signal strength are logged. Additionally, connectivity loss events are logged. An algorithm uses these logs to determine the device location and range.

Connection attempts are made when in a configurable proximity to the device. The first attempt when entering the proximity and further attempts at a configurable interval.

==== Mobile devices ====

Example devices include: automobiles

Mobile devices are configured to have two types of locations:
# Last known location
# Non-mobile locations (homes)

===== Last known location =====

A car is mobile, ideally, when you leave your car, the phone should note the car's location when connectivity is lost and then attempt to reacquire the car when you return to the location of the car.

===== Non-mobile locations (homes) =====

As mobile devices may have multiple users, it is not sufficient to always use the last known location. In this case, the device may additionally have multiple homes. For example, a car might have as its homes: home garage and work parking lot.

=== Bluetooth neighbor detection and multiuser apps ===

Like the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_laptop_per_child one laptop per child] (OLPC) interface, keep a number in the status bar that represents a count of other openmoko or compatible bluetooth devices in the area. Allow for the spontaneous initiation of a chatroom or multiplayer game or file trading with any moko in the area.

=== Bluetooth environment detection ===

Capability to detect when a predetermined bt device enters/leaves bt range and launch a system-wide event accordingly. This would feed not only the "Neighbour detection" idea described above, but also the "Profiles", "Context based TO-DO list" and "Location-based reminders" ideas. Reminders could be set to trigger in the presence of a specific person X (with BT device Y). Profiles can take into account which devices are present around the phone (car kit, for ex.). To-do list could also change according to present devices.

=== Remote control ===

==== Wireless presenter ====
Use the phone to run your OpenOffice.org Impress presentation remotely using Bluetooth. Cool features:
* Display the text notes for the presenter on the phone's display and update it whenever the slide is changing.
** OO.org has implemented support for [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=12719 dual monitor]/[http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=18486 presenter mode] that can be used as a starting point
* A small timer showing the time passed (and perhaps remaining if the presentation app supports such a feature).
* If you want to be super-cool, you give a preview of the notes of the next slide in the show.
* At the end of a presentation, a "navigator" could allow to easily jump to any slide in the presentation by clicking on it on the phone.
** When you right-click in a running OO.org Impress presentation, you can choose "got o slide..." and select any slide to jump to.

Some similar functionality will be implemented during SoC 08. More info at [[OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller]]

==== Initiated from another device ====
Remote control over Bluetooth from other devices to control media player (play, pause, next, previous, volume control), camera (capture image), etc.
==== Directed at another device ====
Remote control over Bluetooth to other devices to control media player, lights in your house, etc.

[http://mjr.iki.fi/software/remote-0.9.0.tar.gz Remote] is my draft of a python-based remote control app that allows you to define button sets and commands to run on the local or a remote host (through ssh, for instance). Error handling and command interface need work.--[[User:Mjr|Mjr]] 11:14, 18 October 2007 (CEST)

Z-wave uses web-browser control of devices that is said to be compatible with mobile phone browsers so should work with openmoko browser. [http://www.z-wave.com www.z-wave.com]

=== Bluetooth Car Connection ===

Have a deeper connection to the car than just handsfree speakerphone. For instance a transceiver with challenge/response systems to open, possibly even start the car. Possibly go as far as OBD connection to monitor car status on screen/log for later.

Could be done with a port of [https://garage.maemo.org/projects/carman/ Carman] or similar that can connect to an OBD2 adapter via USB or Bluetooth and display various information collect from the car, GPS, and accelerometers. --[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Bmk789 bmk789]

==== Dude, Where's My Car? ====

When in range of the car navigation system, remember the position (perhaps check with the car GPS). When not in range, assumme that you are not in the car, and offer the opportunity to navigate to the car's last known position. That way, you can find your car e.g. on a large parking lot.

=== [[Bluetooth powered Multi-SIM support]] ===

As the Neo1971 does not come with dual-SIM support this could be solved by joining your old bluetooth-enabled mobile to your OpenMoko-phone.

Let SIM card A be in your OpenMoko-phone and SIM card B in your old mobile:
* Incoming call on SIM card B - the OpenMoko-phone acts as a headset(Bluetooth Headset profile)
* Calling out via SIM card B - the OpenMoko-phone acts again as a headset
* Same for Short Messages/MMS/Internet
This way you'd have your old phone switched silent and connected to your OpenMoko-phone that handles all the calls and one can select which SIM card to use.
Advantage: No 'switching' between cards
Disadvantage: Second mobile needs to be in range(e.g. handbag) and charged every once in a while.

===Internet Gateway===

If the device could function as a Bluetooth router/gateway to the internet via the GPRS/data connector, then you could use it to get network connectivity from your laptop and other devices while on the road. Many smartphones can be configured as modems via Bluetooth for use as Dial-Up Networking connectors, and that should be the minimum target. Ideally, if the WiFi functionality was used so the OpenMoko could be an 802.11 router or peer to peer gateway for a laptop, this would be even better. The full bandwidth of GPRS or whatever network is available would then be available.

=== Social Networking ===

Anybody running the social networking app will be broadcasting a profile, and when certain keywords are matched with other users who are also running the application, an alert is sounded. Each mokoid can be added as a hexstring to a profile page, and xml filters can be developed for each social service to convert various keywords and interests to moko-friendly format.

=== Give userspace api control over bluetooth signal strength ===

I have tried bluetooth handsfree sets with other phones and don't get perfect reception due to low signal strength. I suppose the reason the signal is so weak is because the manufacturer wants the battery to last long on its latest charge. Can you please make the strength setting configurable by the user of the phone through an api and perhaps even through the phones gui? I would gladly waste some battery time in exchange for stronger bluetooth signal strength.

== WiFi ==

=== Industrial grade Wifi management ===
One annoyance I've had with Wifi enabled gadgets is that they simply keep the connections in a dumb list. What I'd like to see is more granular connection management, which enables me to specify whether a given connection is friend & family (mom's place), professional client (joe's copies and coffee), commercially available (panera), onetime use, or anything else, as well as managing router config backups, firmware images, and security keys.
=== Captive portal auto-login support ===
Having a nice front-end to some sort of script that checks the authenticity of a captive portal login page (SSL cert), then passes your username and password login information to automatically log you into your account would be very nice as well. This can be done with curl, but it is difficult to make it work on all captive portals out there. Perhaps just a field that you can specify "once I am connected to this AP, run this script: ".

=== WiFi Walkie Talkie ===
Provide walktie talkie functionality like http://www.domain17.net/walkietalkie/index.html See also [[Wish_List#Walkie_Talkie|Bluetooth Walkie Talkie]] and perhaps construct one application that can handle both Bleutooth and Wifi.

== Wireless Piggyback ==

HSDPA support and the like, so that users can connect directly with the internet with G3/G4 mobile service providers at speeds at or above 3.6 Mb/s.

== Other ==

=== Auto Update ===

A small tool which is configurable to download the latest OpenMoko and OpenMoko related software. Maybe if any internet connection is available or a minimum of bandwith is available then the auto update would download only security related or the whole system etc. .

=== Vibrate Pattern Recorder ===

An application that would allow the user to define their own vibration patterns, and possibly link them to audio files. Recording would be done in real time initiated with a "Record" button, optionally playing the associated sound file in sync with recording). While recording, the user would press and hold a button to define the timing and duration of vibration. The user would press "Stop" when finished. Vibration patterns would have the option of being looped(would terminate at some global ringtone length maximum).

One simple suggested vibration file format would be a sort of run-length encoding: First byte defines the length of a "time-slice" in milliseconds, which would determine the overall tempo(actually the inverse of tempo). The next byte would define the number of time-slices to leave the vibration on, and then another byte for how long to pause after. Continue alternating these on/off bytes until the entire pattern is defined.

- or just use MIDI, using a separate channel for the vibrator.

An implementation of RTTL could also be used to define vibration patterns.

=== PC Input Device ===

Provide a method to use the touchscreen as input device for a nearby desktop machine. Could connect over USB or bluetooth.

Could emulate a pointer device (mouse) or even keyboard using standard bluetooth/USB interfaces for such a device.

Use case: Alice is lazing on a couch and doesn't want to get up to do some minor interaction with the computer. She can see the screen and uses the OpenMoko device as a mouse and/or keyboard to interact with the computer.

=== Advanced Notification And Ringtone Manager ===
{{Main|Wishlist-ANARM}}

ANARM would be an application for handling all event-based audible notifications from an OpenMoko device.

=== Location based reminders ===
{{Main|Wishlist:Location_based_reminders}}
Location based reminders can be used to notify users of various events or reminders that are location based.

=== Synergy Client ===
A synergy client would enable the user to place the device next to a desktop PC and share the desktop`s mouse, keyboard and clipboard over a TCP/IP network. [http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ Synergy]

=== Next device ===
List features for your fantasy device to come from FIC (or anyone else, for that matter). Define the GTA03 here ;-)

==== There is no device ====
From [http://wurp.blogspot.com/2008/01/teh-future.html Wurp's blog]:

Clearly the Next Big Thing has to be for the device to go away altogether. I know the basic idea for wearables has been around forever, but it seems to me that the time has come.

I wanna wear a bluetooth earpiece and cool shades, possibly with [ here's where my imagination is failing me :-( ] gloves, or fingerless gloves, or (ew) wristbands, and let any surface, including my hand, or no surface, be my interface. Tap the earpiece when you get a phone call, see a dial pad on your palm and tap out the number with the other hand, watch movies on a giant screen hovering in the air...

(equipment list: bluetooth earpiece, some brick in my pocket or on my belt, glasses w/ minute camera, painted video display, & variable darkness lenses, and gloves)

Why the hell do I want to dig out a device every time I want mindless entertainment or superficial conversation?

Ideally, you could then sell any little doohickey with whatever interface you want (switches, knobs, g-spots, ...) and all it needs to do is network with some software on the brick to be anything at all...

== GPS Software ==
[[Image:Cheap_gps.png|right|300px|From xkcd.com :-)]]
*Providing GPS Support also for outdoor users in addition to ordinary street navigation features
** Overlay of satellite images with existing streetmaps
** Incorporating SRTM digital elevation model: for example using the VRML/X3D as data format (see http://www.ai.sri.com/geovrml/) which is interesting for e.g. mountaineering: using a 3d browser rendering VRML/X3D Model, displaying the current position and track (possibly also other gps-tracks of the different routes to a summit downloaded before could be mapped onto the 3d model), (what about 3d hardware support? there is nothing written in the hardware specs about graphics: thinking of OpenGL for embedded systems (see http://www.khronos.org/opengles/)
** Using sth like a tracking mode to allow certain people to determine the current position and track (for rescue missions - like they have for example at http://www.steiger-stiftung.de (a German beneficence for rescue issues) There you can register your mobile phone so the rescue service is able to track you immediately if necessary. The interesting thing: It seems like some mobile phones with GPS have special support for this issue. If your phone is registered, the rescue service is able to get your GPS coordinates directly from the phone without any user assistance. Openmoko should also support this! )
* Implementation of 3dTracking's (http://free.3dtracking.net/) tracking software or equivalent.
* "Geomark" function: if you have to save the current time with your current location, only hit one button...
** You also should be able to navigate with a small "compass" and the distance should be displayed to your saved point (maybe where you parked your car on a big car parking area)...
* '''Measure the distance between two points (air line or walked way) -> no need for a tape measure'''
**I think it would be good if you could either use Bluetooth, GPRS or AdHoc Wifi, and see near Neo1972 on the GPS map so you could see where your friends are, e.g "You want to know if you friend is on the bus behind" You would need a strong wifi and GPRS would be too expensive.
*A bicycle sat-nav would be cool, speciayl designed for bicycles, e.g. cycle routes

 [[Community Based Traffic Information]]

== Hardware ==
{{Main|Wish List - Hardware}}

It could be use for beepway Online service too
[http://www.beepway.com]

=== Dedicated Power / Charger Pinout ===

Having not yet seen a physical Neo device, I haven't been able to examine any of the IOs to see if there already is a dedicated power / charger input. However, I can imagine that it might be very tempting to have the device charge solely via USB. For any device that is capable of USB-host, that is a '''horrible''' idea.

Since the device is able to run in USB host mode, it might be a good idea to allow for an alternate power supply, if say, a USB keyboard was being used for several hours. Rather than drain the battery, one could just supply power via the wall outlet while still providing endless hours of USB-host enjoyment for those hard-coders on the go.

The main question is just deciding on where to take power from if in USB-client mode and the power cable is inserted, but really, that's not too big of a deal and can be solved with very minimal circuitry.

This might sound extraneous at first, but when the device shuts down in the middle of an important USB file transfer, or right before that great piece of code was saved, you can bet that those users will be saying "Hmm... a separate power adapter would have really come in handy right now".

I suggest a tiny 3mm, dedicated +5V power input (something a la Nokia).

=== Inductive charging ===

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging Inductive charging] is the sort of charging where you place the device in a cradle, and a coil in the cradle induces a current in a coil inside the device, allowing it to recharge without wires. This should eliminate proprietary power connections.

=== Tactile feedback via buzzer ===
Assuming the hardware has a vibrator/buzzer for silent calls, use a lightly pulsed version of that to simulate tactile feedback when dragging finger across buttons on-screen. Implemented properly, it would almost feel as if the buttons were real.
: 25 ms bump on the buzzer feels about right. Does this harm the vibrator motor? --[[User:Sagacis|Sagacis]] 05:15, 2 October 2007 (CEST)
:: Created a patch to do this [[User:Sagacis/ForceFeedback]] --[[User:Sagacis|Sagacis]] 05:05, 3 October 2007 (CEST)

=== Detachable keyboard ===
Hardware keyboard that can be attached with magnets to a future version of the Neo.

A bluetooth mini-qwerty keyboard that straps to my wrist!

: A BT keyboard would be nice, but do you need openmoko to provide it? [[http://www.intomobile.com/2007/11/07/targus-bluetooth-mobile-tumbpad-when-the-tiny-keyboard-on-your-smartphone-just-doesnt-cut-it.html Targus bluetooth keyboard]]

=== SD Card Slot ===
I think the Neo1973 should have a normal SD card slot as the micro is too small, and the SDs have more space. [unknown author]

SD Cards now support 32GB. Their storage density will always be multiples ahead of microSD (now at only 2GB). An SD Card slot will:
* Provide enough storage to '''turn an OpenMoko into a music (MP3) jukebox''' large enough for entire music collections, like an iPod with Bluetooth for the car.
* Enable '''storage''' of:
** podcasts, full-length movies, or large photo collections
** photo and video from an on-board high-res camera
** entire email database at your fingertips, even in poor phone signal areas
** more detailed maps and charts
** encrypted work databases that are not available online
* Have easy '''external access''', without requiring battery removal like the microSD card
* Support '''SDIO''' accessories
* Enable '''transfer''' of data from an external camera's full SD memory to:
** a portable USB hard drive, offsetting the need to travel with a notebook PC
** the internet, via wifi or phone network
* Enable editing of videos and photos obtained from external cameras

Without an easily accessible higher storage SD Card slot, many users will soon be playing the juggling game of which data to delete from the much smaller and harder to swap microSD card. This is especially true for OpenMoko users, who are more likely to be power users than is the average mobile phone carrying population. Why carry an OpenMoko and an iPod, when you can simply add an SD Card slot?
--[[User:Pedro|Pedro]] 20:06, 17 March 2008 (CET)

: This is not true. Now you can find 2GB micros at the price of 20-30 euros. Too small for what?? --[[User:V0n0|V0n0]] 22:06, 28 December 2007 (CET)

: Think of putting a few '''movies''' on that SD memory card. It could really help if it was a little bigger (8GB, 16GB, 32GB). Also think of going '''offline''' for 1-2 weeks, far away from any computer you can access and then wanting to listen to some music. What you get in turn with a 2 GB memory slot is the same music over and over. Or you have to switch memory a cards a lot.

: This situation is far more common than one would think: going in the mountains, going offshore (on a cruise ship). Or simply you may want to store many types of music, and '''share''' your device with friends. --[[User:Bogdanbiv|Bogdanbiv]] 13:47, 10 January 2008 (EEST)

: Well, it can be micro SD, but why to put it so deep inside, under the battery and even under the SIM card? I would suggest to have a simple slot on the side where we could insert/remove the SD card equally easily as we swap CD's in computer. [[User:AudriusA|AudriusA]] 16:36, 12 January 2008 (CET)

[[User:Cfriedt|Cfriedt]] 12:40, 24 February 2008 (CET) -- I completely agree with a more accessible SD card slot. It should be made external for quick removal / insertion. I realize that would mean program data shouldn't reside on the SD, but really 256 MB of on-board flash is plenty. Mirco or normally-sized, a regular-sized SD is still trivial to implement in terms of solder pads and traces.

: Sorry, but this looks like useless chat. Micro-SD cards are perfect for mobile devices as they don't get too much space on the pcb. Also, we can find micro-sd up to 8gb, if you want more space just wait a while and they'll produce a bigger one in a few months :-p. Really, almost every single phone that has a sd slot has in its micro version, why would we need a full-sized, huge normal sd slot ? It gets too much space on the pcb it's not only about sw configuration or pin soldering, it's more regarding pcb layout.

: What about something like this adapter[http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11922]? Is there any place in the case left to put this into? Nevertheless there is a 12GB microSD card announced from SanDisk and a 8GB card costs about 40€ or 15€ for 4GB. (But a 8GB SD card costs only about 25€) --[[user:kelvan|Kelvan]]

: Maybe just an additional microSD that is easily accessible and hot-swappable. I imagine replacing the huge lanyard hole could help with this. --[[User:Sin|Sin]] 02:30, 4 May 2008 (CEST)

=== IR port ===
Remote control applications

Would be great to use openmoko as a Harmony remote controller.

:I'd like to add that i fully support this. An IR port on future openmoko devices capable of controlling set-top boxes like TV/DVD/Stereo is necessary to make the device as universal as possible. A cellphone should be your window to the world and allow you to interact with it in as many ways as possible.

:Care must be taken to use the correct type of IR chipset/controller in the phone. Most IR ports you find on devices like computers, some cellphones etc. Are for high speed data communication and CAN'T control TVs/DVDplayers/Stereos etc.

:In order to reduce cost it maybe possible to use the sound chipset in the phone to generate the waveform sent to the IR led. IR remotes work at ~38Khz which is within the range of the sound chipset. The sound output could be internally switched between the IR led or the speakers.

[[Category:User]]
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Talk:Wish List

2008-05-06T07:07:25Z

KlaymenDK: Added explanation for address book "family support" wish

== Vote for wish list items on the OpenMoko suggestion board ==

I took the liberty to create a [http://www.fevote.com/openmoko suggestion board] for OpenMoko on [http://www.fevote.com/ FeVote] (my startup).

The suggestion board lets people submit and vote on suggestions, feature requests, etc. Ultimately, it's a great utility for determining what's in demand.

OpenMoko administrators, if you'd like to officially respond to suggestions, [http://www.fevote.com/ get in touch] so I can give you admin status.

If you think of any other way that FeVote can help the OpenMoko platform, don't hesitate to [http://www.fevote.com/ contact us].

[[User:Micropat|Micropat]] 08:42, 15 September 2007 (CEST)

== Use [[:Category:Ideas]] category? ==

I think we should use the [[:Category:Ideas]] category since all the other wishlist items are in that category. If we decide to switch we need to update all the pages in Ideas. --[[User:Ericthefish|Ericthefish]] 15:54, 19 February 2007 (CET)

== Market planning? ==

I would be ''very'' careful about the load of feature wish list here. It is good serving as a brainstorming process. However without a clear understanding of the target market demographics, this wish list can easily turn the phone into a piece of unusable hacker's wonderland instead of something that can really be used by millions and change human history. --[[User:Jcwang|JohnWang]] 16:46, 2 September 2007 (CEST)

== untidy ==

i think there's a need to sort this list e.g. like we had in the wiki before - ideas with bluetooth, etc.--[[User:Minime|Minime]] 23:29, 27 March 2007 (CEST)

I've beaten the hardware:wishlist into some sort of order.
I was planning to do a similar job on this in the next couple of days.
Same sort of ideas - delete explanatory text - we all know what a scrollbar is, for example, and add links to wikipedia for the unsure, sort out links into some sort of order, ...

== places to look ==

There's a [http://www.lifehacker.com/software/hack-attack/automate-proximity-and-location+based-computer-actions-265822.php Lifehacker Article] that might have some more good location-based ideas.

== The music player ==

I have some neat ideas that i would like to implement for the Neo, eg: music library management (hook up to external HDD). Easy finger drag navigation type user interface. but first i have to get the emulator / vmware installed on my machine :P. I would imagine that this would require 2d accelleration though :(

== Integrated Help System ==
I couldn't find anything about it while looking around the wiki, so I added a section under Software for an integrated help system. If I have missed it, my apologies, and please direct me to where it is described.
[[User:Tingo|Tingo]] 03:01, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

== Sound Customization and others ==

I am a consumer, right?

I want to set custom tones(Alarm, Ringtone, Startup/shutdown tone, Etc.)

Furthermore, I want to set specific ringtones for specific contacts and I wanted to use tones from My Computer(As an Ogg or Mp3) and use them as ringtones.

Would that be possible?

== Transparent fullscreen keyboard ==

In which category can I put the idea of a transparent fullscreen keyboard?
[[User:kelvan|kelvan]] 13:0, 20 Feb. 2008

== Address book: Support for family relations ==
[[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: This is a set of features that (to me) seem obvious, yet I have not seen ''any'' address book that supports it. Basically, the intention is to share certain fields of an address book entry with certain other address book entries. The idea is that if John and Jane are married, the software should understand that they share some data: the date field for "Anniversary" should be shared between them, and if they move it should be sufficient to change address info in one of the entries (and the rest should follow along).
Here are the proposed components and their functions:
* "Configure family" button -- Opens a small selection list, where the user can select (multiple) other address book entries. These will be the other entries that this entry syncs with.
* "Sync" check marks next to various entry fields (address, home phone, anniversary, etc.) -- Only checked fields should be synced with the other entries.

Talk:FreeRunner/Buttons and LEDs

2008-05-04T21:09:51Z

KlaymenDK: /* Mode: ON+CHARGING */

=Taxonomy=

==Buttons==

==Leds==

==Modes==

=Basic Button Usage=

==Mode: OFF==

==Mode: ON==

==Mode: SUSPEND==

=Basic LED Usage=

==Mode: OFF==

==Mode: ON==

* HEARTBEAT will emit a short blink every 4 seconds.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''I wanted to ask if this could be configurable, but it seems to be (see "Minimal LED Usage" below).''
* If Bluetooth and Wifi are powered on, WIRELESS will be lit continuosly.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''How about a double-blink (perhaps short+long combo)? This might save power.''

==Mode: ON+CHARGING==

* HEARTBEAT will increase blinking as the charge level of the battery increases.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''Does this mean increasing frequency, or increasing blink duration? Personally, I think I would prefer the latter. Quickly blinking lights might be stressful.''
** [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2008-May/002671.html jOERG writes] to suggest that the ''blink frequency'' should increase with charging ''current'', and that the ''blink length'' should increase with battery charge. That is, the LED could blink eg. once per 2.5s during charging at 100mA, and two blinks per second during 500mA charging. Further, blinks should be short and far between if the battery is flat, and nearly continuous when it's almost full. [klay says: I hope I understood this right, joerg.]

==Mode: SUSPEND==

=Advanced Button/LED Usage=

* In ON-Mode, EVENT will blink every 2 seconds if there's an event that needs your attention.
* The more events, the faster EVENT will blink.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''How about a double-, triple-, or n-blink? Quickly blinking lights might be stressful.''

=Minimal LED Usage=

==Mode: OFF or SUSPEND==

==Mode: ON or LOCK==

* HEARTBEAT will emit a short blink every 4 seconds only when battery power is low. Optionally the number of blinks can be increased or the number of seconds can be decreased as the battery power is getting more critical. More information on the battery status can of course be found on the display itself.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''Spending extra power when it becomes critical does seem ironic. Still, I'm in favour of this idea.''

User:KlaymenDK

2008-04-24T14:15:14Z

KlaymenDK: /* Dvorak keyboard layout */

Hi all.

== Why am I interested? ==
I'm a happy Palm T3 user. I bought two of these ''after'' I knew they were obsolete -- they simply fulfil my present needs, adequately and much better than any available smartphone.

I'm also quite happy with my Nokia 6310. Also this I bought after Nokia stopped making them, I got a (semi-fake?) one on eBay. It's got more than a week's worth of battery life, and the menu system seems to just know what I want (the exact opposite of my hopeless Samsung phone).

However ... hanging on to both of these, I am aware that I'm being a bit nostalgic and backward. And since I really depend on my "Plastic Brain" (the pda), that's perhaps not the best strategy. What I'm looking for is a good, modern pda that does what I need how I want. If it's free-as-in-freedom, that's even better!

== What can I do, what do I want to help with? ==
I am a programmer by trade; by day I develop and maintain Lotus Notes 'applications' (databases, rather); by night (well, some) I am hacking away at a GTD-centric task management/project outliner application for PalmOS.

=== Handwriting recognition ===
(See also: [[Talk:Input_Method#Handwriting | Input Method:Handwriting]])

Due to my background in Palm-land, I am very interested in helping to implement realtime fullscreen handwriting recognition not entirely unlike offered by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29 Palm Graffiti] and [http://www.tealpoint.com/softscrp.htm TealScript].
I believe that handwriting is worthy of consideration because:
* IMVHO, it is the most ''efficient method for fast input on small devices''.
* It is ''agnostic of keyboard layouts and special language variants'' (I use Norwegian Dvorak).
* It ''consumes no screen real estate'' at all!
* It ''does not preclude the use of an ad-hoc on-screen keyboard''.
Note that handwriting can be performed without a stylus, simply by using a fingernail instead.

=== Dvorak keyboard layout ===
When I'm typing at a desktop, I use a norwegian Dvorak keyboard layout. Hence, I'm really not interested in a virtual qwerty keyboard -- but if the virtual keyboard can be "skinned", I would be interested in contributing a Dvorak variant.

== Display size comparisons==
I know I'm spoiled by the ''size'' of my T3 display; it will be interesting to see if the much higher ''resolution'' of the Freerunner can compensate for its physical smallness.
[[Image:T3-iPhone-Freerunner-overlay.png|T3-iPhone-Freerunner overlay]]

Group sales

2008-04-22T15:40:41Z

KlaymenDK: /* Copenhagen */

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== Australia ==
=== Western Australia ===
==== Perth ====

* Fred Janon mailto:fjanon@yahoo.com

=== Victoria ===
==== Melbourne ====
Status: 4/10

* 4x Dennis Wollersheim, mailto: dewoller (at) gmail (dot) com

=== ACT ===
==== Canberra ====
Status: 1/10

* J Dinale [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Noledil Contact me here]

=== Queensland ===
==== Brisbane ====
Status: 3/10 (possibly 20)

* Nick Devereaux x 2 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Monkeypanic Contact me here]
* Matt Gallagher [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mattg Contact me here]

== Austria ==
I don't think that we reach the 10 phones in a city, so maybe we can handle it like the Italians. Order the phones in the most requested city and ship it to the other ones from there.

=== Salzburg ===
Status: 1/10

* D. Kepplinger [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wedge Contact me here]
=== Wien ===
Status: 1/10
* M. Greifeneder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mikegr Contact me here]
=== Styria ===
==== Graz ====
Status: 1/10

* F Hackenberger [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Deadman66 Contact me here]

== Belgium ==
=== Flanders ===
==== Brussel/Aalst/Gent/Brugge ====
Status 4/10
* Yorick, mailto: yorick DOT matthys AT gmail DOT com
* 2x Dolfje [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dolfje Contact me here]
* XVens, mailto: xavier DOT vens AT gmail DOT com
ps: Dolfje can bring freerunners to Brugge if needed

==== Antwerp ====
Status 5/10

* michielv [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Michielv Contact me here]
* Peter N [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubsy Contact me here]
* Ivo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ivo Contact me here]
* Peter Leemans, mailto: peter AT x-tend DOT be
* Richard B [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/richardb Contact me here]

== Bulgaria ==
=== Sofia ===
==== Sofia ====
Status : 2/10

* Dimitar Staykov, mailto:meditache@gmail.com
* Vernim, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vernim Contact]

== Canada ==
=== Ontario/Quebec ===
==== GTA (Toronto) ====
Status : 2/10

* Gerald A [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Historybuff Contact me here]
* MattC, mailto: quirkz AT gmail

== Chile ==
=== Santiago ===
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Mankeke]] Ricardo Manríquez C., mailto: ricardo.manriquez "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
* [[User:XKnightmareX]] Gonzalo Pesenti., mailto: mare.knight1 "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com

== Denmark ==
If we do not reach a total large enough, Denmark **is** a very small place - surely we could figure out a way of getting them to find their way 'round the country :)

=== Jutland ===
==== Aalborg ====
Status: 2/10

* Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen mailto:admin@leinir.dk [[User:Leinir]]
* Fabian Olesen mailto:firewalkerx@gmail.com

==== Skjern ====
Status: 1/10

* [[User:Carlo]]

=== Fyn ===
Status: 1/10

* [[User:EsbenDamgaard]]

=== Sjælland ===
==== Copenhagen ====
Status: 5/10

* [[User:Fursund]]
* [[User:Rasmusjensen]]
* [[User:tabac]] Thomas Ammitzbøll-Bach
* [[User:UlrikRasmussen]] Ulrik Rasmussen
* [[User:KlaymenDK | Jan Gundtofte-Bruun]] (Pending final hw, eg. low-power LEDs)

== Finland ==
=== Uusimaa ===
==== Helsinki (Full)====
Status : 10/10

* Mikko Rauhala x2 [mailto:mjr@iki.fi mjr@iki.fi]
* Aleksi Hankalahti [mailto:aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi]
* Seppo Hätönen [mailto:karrde@iki.fi karrde@iki.fi]
* Arttu Sund [mailto:thearttu@gmail.com thearttu@gmail.com]
* Ville-Pekka Vainio vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi
* Heikki Hallamaa [mailto:heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi]
* Tomi Jylhä-Ollila tomi.jylha-ollila@helsinki.fi
* Richard Braakman
* Timo Jyrinki [mailto:timo.jyrinki@iki.fi timo.jyrinki@iki.fi]

==== Helsinki ====
Status : 4/10

* |[[User:Piksi]]
* Risto H. Kurppa risto AT kurppa DOT fi
* Aapo Rantalainen aapo DOT rantalainen AT gmail DOT com
* Matti Laakso matti DOT laakso AT kotiposti DOT net

=== Varsinais-Suomi ===
==== Turku ====
Status : 2/10

* 2x Teemu Välimäki, [mailto:teemu.valimaki@iki.fi teemu.valimaki@iki.fi]

== France ==
=== Bretagne ===
==== Brest ====
Status : 1/10

* StevenLeRoux [mailto:steven@pourri.fr steven@pourri.fr] Jabber_Id:Steven@jabber.fr
* Acheteur potentiel #2

==== Rennes ====
Status : 2/10

* Cédric DUFOUIL (openmoko at tsleg point com)
* Yves MAHE (ymahe at zindep dot com)

=== Ile de france ===
==== Paris ====
Status : 8/10

* StevenLeRoux
* [[User:Phyce|Phyce]]
* Yann SLADEK
* [[User:Wilk|Wilk]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wilk Contact me here]
* Jonathan Magano ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JonathanMM Contact me here])
* Benjamin Renard (bn8[AT]zionetrix.net)
* [[User:OlivierBerger|OlivierBerger]]
* [[User:BartGS|BartGS]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BartGS Contact me here]

You may also see :
http://bearstech.com/openmoko/register

=== Pays de la Loire ===
==== La Roche sur Yon ====
Status : 1/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vtouchar Vincent Touchard] (I may soon move to Bretagne/Brest)

=== Rhône-Alpes ===
==== Lyon ====
Status : 1/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/patou Vincent MEURISSE]

== Germany ==
=== Sachsen-Anhalt ===
==== Stendal (evtl. Magdeburg) ====
Status 1/10

* Fabian Off [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fabian2de Contact me here]

=== Hamburg ===
==== Hamburg ====
Status 2/10

* Jan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jan07 Contact me here]
* Varacanero [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/varacanero Contact me here]

=== NRW ===
==== Bielefeld ====
Status 3/10

* David, infos on my [[User:Raven|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Raven|contact me here]]
* Sebastian, infos on my [[User:Seppi|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Seppi|contact me here]]
* Dackel, infos on my [[User:Killerdackel|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Killerdackel|contact me here]]

==== Aachen ====
Status 1/10
* Henrik, infos on my [[User:Henrikz|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Henrikz|contact me here]]

=== Baden-Württemberg ===
==== Karlsruhe ====

Status 3/10

* 2 for André (one for me and one for a friend), you can [[Special:Emailuser/Spacemarine|contact me here]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Dr.Nop|Dr.Nop]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/JensB|JensB]]

== Italy ==
If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the "most requested city", and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the "double-shipping". ([http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/10937/focus=10981 Read here for reference]).

=== Toscana ===
==== Firenze ====
Status 2/10

* [[User:Treviño|Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]] - [http://blog.3v1n0.net/contatti-trevino/ Contacts here]
* [[User:Niccolo|Niccolo Rigacci]] - ''niccolo [AT] rigacci.org''

=== Lombardia ===

==== Milano ====
Status 5/10

* Marco Crociani - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tyrael Contacts here]
* Marcello Gorla
* Maxxer [mailto:maxxer@yetopen.it maxxer@yetopen.it] (Lecco)
* Pietro Montorfano [mailto:monto84@gmail.com monto84@gmail.com] (from como)
* Gianluigi Belli - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pulciux Contacts here]

=== Trentino-Alto Adige ===
==== Trento (Padova too :)) ====
Status 1/10

* Andrea Debortoli (debortoland AT gmail DOT com)

=== Veneto ===
==== Verona ====

* Persegat [mailto:persegat@alice.it persegat@alice.it] [[User:Pecce|Pecce]]

=== Puglia ===
==== Lecce ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:Morpheus90|Morpheus90]] [mailto:ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com]
==== Bari ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Fradeve11|Fradeve11]] [mailto:fradeve@ubuntu-it.org fradeve@ubuntu-it.org]

== [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands The Netherlands] ==
(Discuss this group sale on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands talk page])

* Christ van Willegen 1/10 [[User:ChristW]]
* Marijn Kruisselbrink 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mkruisselbrink|Contact]]
* Andy Powell 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ScaredyCat|Contact]]
* Arjan Veenstra 1/10 [[User:AVee]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:AVee|Contact]]
* Eric Smith 1/10 [[User:Eric Smith]]
* André Disselhorst 1/10 [[User:A.dre]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:A.dre|Contact]]
=== Noord-Brabant ===

==== Bergen op Zoom ====
* [[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Madjo|Contact]]

=== Overijssel ===

==== Deventer ====
* Jan de Haan 1/10 [[User:Jan de Haan]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:Jan de Haan|Contact]]

==== Hengelo ====
* Sander Hoentjen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Tjikkun|Contact]]

=== Utrecht ===

==== Utrecht ====
* Eric Spierings 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ericsp|Contact]]
* Peter van de Werken 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:PWerken|Contact]]

=== Status ===
11/10

== Macedonia ==
=== Skopje ===
* Kristijan Krsteski 1/10 [[User:neutrino]] [mailto:kristijan.krsteski@gmail.com]
===Status ===
1/10

== New Zealand ==
=== Auckland ===
==== Auckland ====

* Rob Paulson 1/10 [[User:Myfanwy]] Simon Wells [[User:Swel024]]

== Norway ==
=== Nordland ===
==== Bodø ====
Status 2/10

* [[User:AlecTBM|Alexander Frøyseth]] [mailto:alexander.froyseth@gmail.com alexander.froyseth@gmail.com]
* Ole Marius
* Stian Vading
=== Rogaland ===
Status 1/10

*[[User:Dalaker|Tore Dalaker]] [mailto:tore@dalaker.com tore@dalaker.com]

=== Sør-Trøndelag ===
==== Trondheim ====
Status 9/10

*[[User:andy000|Andreas Kalvå]] [mailto:andy@samfundet.no andy@samfundet.no]
Send mail om du er interessert.

=== Østlandet ===
==== Oslo, Akershus, Buskerud, Vestfold ====
Status 16/20

* [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] [mailto:heikkis@matnat.uio.no] Interessert? mail meg.
* [[User:Bobkare|Knut Arne Bjørndal]] [mailto:bob@cakebox.net]

== Poland ==
=== dolnośląskie ===
==== Wrocław ====

* Special group buy site: https://www.kumulator.pl/show/group/35

== Portugal ==
=== Aveiro ===
==== Aveiro ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Ruben|Ruben Mendes]]
* [[User:kuyky|Tiago Saraiva]] [mailto:destructhor88@gmail.pt]

== Sweden ==
If insufficient number of people, orders could be merged and remailed perhaps

=== Svealand ===
==== Stockholm ====
Status : 3/10

* Erland Lewin mailto:erland@lewin.nu
* Simon Kågström mailto:simon.kagstrom@gmail.com
* Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson mailto:ingi@ultimalabor.se

==== Örebro ====
Status : 1/10

* Anders Petersson [mailto:demitar@worldforge.org demitar@worldforge.org]

=== Norrland ===
==== Umeå ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:Zash|Zash]] [[Special:Emailuser/Zash|Contact]]

== Switzerland ==
==== Zurich ====
Status : 11/20

* Simon Wenner [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nowic Contact]
* Simon Schreiber [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]
* Markus Huggler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]
* Andre Timmermann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]
* Raffael Schmid [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]
* Pascal Weller [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]
* Nick Zbinden [mailto:nickik@gmx.ch]
* Marcel Wirth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Skarhand Contact]
* Marcel Lütolf [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/NeRo Contact]
* Christian Corrodi [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matto Contact]
* Mirko Klingauf [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/RealAtaman Contact]

== Spain ==
=== Madrid ===
==== Madrid ====
Status : 1/10

* Rafael Campos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Methril Contact]

=== Zaragoza ===
==== Zaragoza ====
Status : 1/10

* Alejandro R. Mosteo alejandro AT mosteo · com

=== Barcelona ===
==== Barcelona ====
Status : 2/10

* José Luis Pérez [[Special:Emailuser/jluis|Contact]]
* David Reyes Samblas Martinez [[Special:Emailuser/mutrox|Contact]]

== USA ==
=== Colorado ===
==== Denver ====
Status: 7/10
* Shawn Sullivan [[mailto:shelbydz87@yahoo.com shelbydz87@yahoo.com]]
* Peter Abplanalp [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alderion Contact]

=== Southern California ===
==== Los Angeles ====
Status: 2/10

* Ian Douglas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iandouglas Contact me here]
* Matthew [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wetmoko Contact]

=== Texas ===
==== Austin ====
* Dale Schumacher [[Special:Emailuser/dalnefre|Contact]]
* Michael Cosby [[Special:Emailuser/mcosby|Contact]]

=== Mid-Atlantic ===
==== Virginia====
===== Richmond (1/10)=====
* Philippe Gerard [[Special:Emailuser/feydreva|Contact]]

==== New York ====
Status: 2/10

* Bert Hartmann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BertHartm Contact me here]
* Michael Cole mailto:mjcole137@gmail.com 

== UK ==
=== London ===
==== London ====
Status : 5/10

* Juergen Schinker mailto:ba1020@homie.homelinux.net
* Tim Coggins (actually in Oxford) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sonicated Contact]
* David Pottage (actually in Reading) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chrestomanci Contact]
* aled [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aled Contact]
* Bin Zong (actually in Birmingham) [mailto:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com]

== Latvia ==
=== Riga ===
==== Riga ====
Status : 1/10
* [[User:VRGhost]]
[[Category:Information| ]]
[[Category:community| ]]

Talk:FreeRunner/Buttons and LEDs

2008-04-22T14:03:57Z

KlaymenDK: typo

=Taxonomy=

==Buttons==

==Leds==

==Modes==

=Basic Button Usage=

==Mode: OFF==

==Mode: ON==

==Mode: SUSPEND==

=Basic LED Usage=

==Mode: OFF==

==Mode: ON==

* HEARTBEAT will emit a short blink every 4 seconds.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''I wanted to ask if this could be configurable, but it seems to be (see "Minimal LED Usage" below).''
* If Bluetooth and Wifi are powered on, WIRELESS will be lit continuosly.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''How about a double-blink (perhaps short+long combo)? This might save power.''

==Mode: ON+CHARGING==

* HEARTBEAT will increase blinking as the charge level of the battery increases.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''Does this mean increasing frequency, or increasing blink duration? Personally, I think I would prefer the latter. Quickly blinking lights might be stressful.''

==Mode: SUSPEND==

=Advanced Button/LED Usage=

* In ON-Mode, EVENT will blink every 2 seconds if there's an event that needs your attention.
* The more events, the faster EVENT will blink.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''How about a double-, triple-, or n-blink? Quickly blinking lights might be stressful.''

=Minimal LED Usage=

==Mode: OFF or SUSPEND==

==Mode: ON or LOCK==

* HEARTBEAT will emit a short blink every 4 seconds only when battery power is low. Optionally the number of blinks can be increased or the number of seconds can be decreased as the battery power is getting more critical. More information on the battery status can of course be found on the display itself.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''Spending extra power when it becomes critical does seem ironic. Still, I'm in favour of this idea.''

Talk:FreeRunner/Buttons and LEDs

2008-04-17T09:08:11Z

KlaymenDK: Initial comments (copied entire heading structure for future use)

=Taxonomy=

==Buttons==

==Leds==

==Modes==

=Basic Button Usage=

==Mode: OFF==

==Mode: ON==

==Mode: SUSPEND==

=Basic LED Usage=

==Mode: OFF==

==Mode: ON==

* HEARTBEAT will emit a short blink every 4 seconds.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''I wanted to ask if this could be configurable, but it seems to be (see "Minimal LED Usage" below).''
* If Bluetooth and Wifi are powered on, WIRELESS will be lit continuosly.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''How about a double-blink (perhaps short+long combo)? This might save power.''

==Mode: ON+CHARGING==

* HEARTBEAT will increase blinking as the charge level of the battery increases.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''Does this mean increasing frequency, or increasing blink duration? Personally, I think I would prefer the latter. Quickly blinking lights might be stressful.''

==Mode: SUSPEND==

=Advanced Button/LED Usage=

* In ON-Mode, EVENT will blink every 2 seconds if there's an event that needs your attention.
* The more events, the faster EVENT will blink.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''How about a double-, triple-, or n-blink? Quickly blinking lights might be stressful.''

=Minimal LED Usage=

==Mode: OFF or SUSPEND==

==Mode: ON or LOCK==

* HEARTBEAT will emit a short blink every 4 seconds only when battery power is low. Optionally the number of blinks can be increased or the number of seconds can be decreased as the battery power is getting more critical. More information on the battery status can of course be found on the display
itself.
** [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]: ''Spending extra power when it becomes critical does seem ironic. Still, I'm in favour of this idea.''

User:KlaymenDK

2008-04-03T16:49:13Z

KlaymenDK: /* Handwriting recognition */

Hi all.

== Why am I interested? ==
I'm a happy Palm T3 user. I bought two of these ''after'' I knew they were obsolete -- they simply fulfil my present needs, adequately and much better than any available smartphone.

I'm also quite happy with my Nokia 6310. Also this I bought after Nokia stopped making them, I got a (semi-fake?) one on eBay. It's got more than a week's worth of battery life, and the menu system seems to just know what I want (the exact opposite of my hopeless Samsung phone).

However ... hanging on to both of these, I am aware that I'm being a bit nostalgic and backward. And since I really depend on my "Plastic Brain" (the pda), that's perhaps not the best strategy. What I'm looking for is a good, modern pda that does what I need how I want. If it's free-as-in-freedom, that's even better!

== What can I do, what do I want to help with? ==
I am a programmer by trade; by day I develop and maintain Lotus Notes 'applications' (databases, rather); by night (well, some) I am hacking away at a GTD-centric task management/project outliner application for PalmOS.

=== Handwriting recognition ===
(See also: [[Talk:Input_Method#Handwriting | Input Method:Handwriting]])

Due to my background in Palm-land, I am very interested in helping to implement realtime fullscreen handwriting recognition not entirely unlike offered by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29 Palm Graffiti] and [http://www.tealpoint.com/softscrp.htm TealScript].
I believe that handwriting is worthy of consideration because:
* IMVHO, it is the most ''efficient method for fast input on small devices''.
* It is ''agnostic of keyboard layouts and special language variants'' (I use Norwegian Dvorak).
* It ''consumes no screen real estate'' at all!
* It ''does not preclude the use of an ad-hoc on-screen keyboard''.
Note that handwriting can be performed without a stylus, simply by using a fingernail instead.

=== Dvorak keyboard layout ===
When I'm typing at a desktop, I use a norwegion Dvorak keyboard layout. Hence, I'm really not interested in a virtual qwerty keyboard -- but if the virtual keyboard can be "skinned", I would be interested in contributing a Dvorak variant.

== Display size comparisons==
I know I'm spoiled by the ''size'' of my T3 display; it will be interesting to see if the much higher ''resolution'' of the Freerunner can compensate for its physical smallness.
[[Image:T3-iPhone-Freerunner-overlay.png|T3-iPhone-Freerunner overlay]]

User:KlaymenDK

2008-04-03T16:48:42Z

KlaymenDK: /* Handwriting recognition */

Hi all.

== Why am I interested? ==
I'm a happy Palm T3 user. I bought two of these ''after'' I knew they were obsolete -- they simply fulfil my present needs, adequately and much better than any available smartphone.

I'm also quite happy with my Nokia 6310. Also this I bought after Nokia stopped making them, I got a (semi-fake?) one on eBay. It's got more than a week's worth of battery life, and the menu system seems to just know what I want (the exact opposite of my hopeless Samsung phone).

However ... hanging on to both of these, I am aware that I'm being a bit nostalgic and backward. And since I really depend on my "Plastic Brain" (the pda), that's perhaps not the best strategy. What I'm looking for is a good, modern pda that does what I need how I want. If it's free-as-in-freedom, that's even better!

== What can I do, what do I want to help with? ==
I am a programmer by trade; by day I develop and maintain Lotus Notes 'applications' (databases, rather); by night (well, some) I am hacking away at a GTD-centric task management/project outliner application for PalmOS.

=== Handwriting recognition ===
(See also: [[Talk:Input_Method#Handwriting | Input Method:Handwriting]])

Due to my background in Palm-land, I am very interested in helping to implement realtime fullscreen handwriting recognition not entirely unlike offered by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29 | PalmOS]] and [[http://www.tealpoint.com/softscrp.htm | TealScript]].
I believe that handwriting is worthy of consideration because:
* IMVHO, it is the most ''efficient method for fast input on small devices''.
* It is ''agnostic of keyboard layouts and special language variants'' (I use Norwegian Dvorak).
* It ''consumes no screen real estate'' at all!
* It ''does not preclude the use of an ad-hoc on-screen keyboard''.
Note that handwriting can be performed without a stylus, simply by using a fingernail instead.

=== Dvorak keyboard layout ===
When I'm typing at a desktop, I use a norwegion Dvorak keyboard layout. Hence, I'm really not interested in a virtual qwerty keyboard -- but if the virtual keyboard can be "skinned", I would be interested in contributing a Dvorak variant.

== Display size comparisons==
I know I'm spoiled by the ''size'' of my T3 display; it will be interesting to see if the much higher ''resolution'' of the Freerunner can compensate for its physical smallness.
[[Image:T3-iPhone-Freerunner-overlay.png|T3-iPhone-Freerunner overlay]]

User:KlaymenDK

2008-04-02T15:23:59Z

KlaymenDK:

Hi all.

== Why am I interested? ==
I'm a happy Palm T3 user. I bought two of these ''after'' I knew they were obsolete -- they simply fulfil my present needs, adequately and much better than any available smartphone.

I'm also quite happy with my Nokia 6310. Also this I bought after Nokia stopped making them, I got a (semi-fake?) one on eBay. It's got more than a week's worth of battery life, and the menu system seems to just know what I want (the exact opposite of my hopeless Samsung phone).

However ... hanging on to both of these, I am aware that I'm being a bit nostalgic and backward. And since I really depend on my "Plastic Brain" (the pda), that's perhaps not the best strategy. What I'm looking for is a good, modern pda that does what I need how I want. If it's free-as-in-freedom, that's even better!

== What can I do, what do I want to help with? ==
I am a programmer by trade; by day I develop and maintain Lotus Notes 'applications' (databases, rather); by night (well, some) I am hacking away at a GTD-centric task management/project outliner application for PalmOS.

=== Handwriting recognition ===
(See also: [[Talk:Input_Method#Handwriting | Input Method:Handwriting]])

Due to my background in Palm-land, I am very interested in helping to implement realtime fullscreen handwriting recognition not entirely unlike offered by PalmOS and TealScript.
I believe that handwriting is worthy of consideration because:
* IMVHO, it is the most ''efficient method for fast input on small devices''.
* It is ''agnostic of keyboard layouts and special language variants'' (I use Norwegian Dvorak).
* It ''consumes no screen real estate'' at all!
* It ''does not preclude the use of an ad-hoc on-screen keyboard''.
Note that handwriting can be performed without a stylus, simply by using a fingernail instead.

=== Dvorak keyboard layout ===
When I'm typing at a desktop, I use a norwegion Dvorak keyboard layout. Hence, I'm really not interested in a virtual qwerty keyboard -- but if the virtual keyboard can be "skinned", I would be interested in contributing a Dvorak variant.

== Display size comparisons==
I know I'm spoiled by the ''size'' of my T3 display; it will be interesting to see if the much higher ''resolution'' of the Freerunner can compensate for its physical smallness.
[[Image:T3-iPhone-Freerunner-overlay.png|T3-iPhone-Freerunner overlay]]

File:T3-iPhone-Freerunner-overlay.png

2008-04-02T15:12:53Z

KlaymenDK:

This image shows the relative display sizes compared to a Palm T3. It's a little off because only the T3 display is at 1:1 resolution; the others have better resolution and so are missing pixels. (Shown in landscape format to make better use of the screen.)

File:T3-iPhone-Freerunner-overlay.png

2008-04-02T15:00:56Z

KlaymenDK: This image shows the relative display sizes compared to a Palm T3. It's a little off because only the T3 display is at 1:1 resolution; the others have better resolution and so are missing pixels.

This image shows the relative display sizes compared to a Palm T3. It's a little off because only the T3 display is at 1:1 resolution; the others have better resolution and so are missing pixels.

Talk:Input Method

2008-04-02T14:36:24Z

KlaymenDK: /* Handwriting */ Added link to Tomoe

== A method from pocket pc ==

I've tried using this:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/screenshots.html

It works quite well. [[User:EsbenDamgaard|EsbenDamgaard]] 15:17, 21 March 2007 (CET)

== A method from Agenda VR3 ==

The [http://www.agendawiki.com Agenda VR3] was a linux-based PDA, also with no keyboard. Their solution was to provide an onscreen keyboard, but in addition to the A/a/1 buttons to have a button that opened up a pad for handwriting recognition. Early versions used something called 'scribble' but later versions used [http://www.hellkvist.org/software/ XMerlin]. So that might be an interesting idea.

== Some ideas ==

What about to use fonts for the Input metod? is it hard?
I think that the widget-keyboard could be dynamic.
Connect the input with the orphographic vocabulary,
so 5 most probable letters will have bigger area( enough for the finger)
(fonts are scalable sometimes)
As a transparent widget was shown,the bigger-letters can be on the background
of the whole keyboard - each letter on its place.
And you can find a little place for the button with the most probable word
(may be form with variants).

Maybe a landscape QWERTY-Keyboard with one preview text-line would be the best to input text. - maybe later as a transparent version without the textline...

== Handwriting ==

[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:KlaymenDK KlaymenDK] says: I don't want to mess things up, so I keep to the Talk page. Here's my issue:
This page seems to be the only one even mentioning handwriting. The article page states that the Input Method Widget supports "''both handwriting recognition, and keyboards''", yet the rest of the article seems to not discuss handwriting ''at all''.

I propose creating a section called "Handwriting" to contain this topic.

Being a happy user of a Palm T3 with TealScript, I am quite fond of using the stylus for text input, especially in the "write everywhere" mode where one can use the entire screen as an input area.

I believe that handwriting is worthy of consideration because:
* IMVHO, it is the most ''efficient method for fast input on small devices''.
* It is ''agnostic of keyboard layouts and special language variants'' (I use Norwegian Dvorak).
* It ''consumes no screen real estate'' at all!
* It ''does not preclude the use of an ad-hoc on-screen keyboard''.
* It can be used without a stylus (just use a fingernail).

As I see it, there are two main issues:
# '''Is the OpenMoko actually capable of supporting online handwriting recognition?''' Here I mean in terms of processing power and real-time stroke resolution. This is a fundamental and technical aspect I have no way of answering.
# '''Are there any legal blocks to using handwriting recognition?''' It does not seem so; at least, several open source recognition toolkits exist ([http://lipitk.sourceforge.net/ LipiTK], [http://playground.sun.com/pub/multimedia/handwriting/hre.html HRE], [http://www.linux.com/feature/120867 CellWriter], [http://tomoe.sourceforge.jp Tomoe], [http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=open+source+handwriting+recognition others]). My main concern is if single-stroke characters are covered by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29 Graffiti] patents, and if TealPoint Software ([http://www.tealpoint.com/softscrp.htm TealScript]) holds any patents on ''user-configurable'' strokes.

Another issue could be '''how to actually integrate the handwriting mode into the user interface'''. I think that the way it works on Palm/TealScript is quite nice, if not outright ideal. Basically, the way it works is: a tap is regarded as a tap if it's quick or if it's obviously a tap-and-hold. But a tap with a "running start" is regarded as a stroke and interpreted as a character, which is then sent to the application (that is, field input or command character).

Talk:Input Method

2008-04-02T12:32:34Z

KlaymenDK: reordered points

== A method from pocket pc ==

I've tried using this:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/screenshots.html

It works quite well. [[User:EsbenDamgaard|EsbenDamgaard]] 15:17, 21 March 2007 (CET)

== A method from Agenda VR3 ==

The [http://www.agendawiki.com Agenda VR3] was a linux-based PDA, also with no keyboard. Their solution was to provide an onscreen keyboard, but in addition to the A/a/1 buttons to have a button that opened up a pad for handwriting recognition. Early versions used something called 'scribble' but later versions used [http://www.hellkvist.org/software/ XMerlin]. So that might be an interesting idea.

== Some ideas ==

What about to use fonts for the Input metod? is it hard?
I think that the widget-keyboard could be dynamic.
Connect the input with the orphographic vocabulary,
so 5 most probable letters will have bigger area( enough for the finger)
(fonts are scalable sometimes)
As a transparent widget was shown,the bigger-letters can be on the background
of the whole keyboard - each letter on its place.
And you can find a little place for the button with the most probable word
(may be form with variants).

Maybe a landscape QWERTY-Keyboard with one preview text-line would be the best to input text. - maybe later as a transparent version without the textline...

== Handwriting ==

[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:KlaymenDK KlaymenDK] says: I don't want to mess things up, so I keep to the Talk page. Here's my issue:
This page seems to be the only one even mentioning handwriting. The article page states that the Input Method Widget supports "''both handwriting recognition, and keyboards''", yet the rest of the article seems to not discuss handwriting ''at all''.

I propose creating a section called "Handwriting" to contain this topic.

Being a happy user of a Palm T3 with TealScript, I am quite fond of using the stylus for text input, especially in the "write everywhere" mode where one can use the entire screen as an input area.

I believe that handwriting is worthy of consideration because:
* IMVHO, it is the most ''efficient method for fast input on small devices''.
* It is ''agnostic of keyboard layouts and special language variants'' (I use Norwegian Dvorak).
* It ''consumes no screen real estate'' at all!
* It ''does not preclude the use of an ad-hoc on-screen keyboard''.
* It can be used without a stylus (just use a fingernail).

As I see it, there are two main issues:
# '''Is the OpenMoko actually capable of supporting online handwriting recognition?''' Here I mean in terms of processing power and real-time stroke resolution. This is a fundamental and technical aspect I have no way of answering.
# '''Are there any legal blocks to using handwriting recognition?''' It does not seem so; at least, several open source recognition toolkits exist ([http://lipitk.sourceforge.net/ LipiTK], [http://playground.sun.com/pub/multimedia/handwriting/hre.html HRE], [http://www.linux.com/feature/120867 CellWriter], [http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=open+source+handwriting+recognition others]). My main concern is if single-stroke characters are covered by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29 Graffiti] patents, and if TealPoint Software ([http://www.tealpoint.com/softscrp.htm TealScript]) holds any patents on ''user-configurable'' strokes.

Another issue could be '''how to actually integrate the handwriting mode into the user interface'''. I think that the way it works on Palm/TealScript is quite nice, if not outright ideal. Basically, the way it works is: a tap is regarded as a tap if it's quick or if it's obviously a tap-and-hold. But a tap with a "running start" is regarded as a stroke and interpreted as a character, which is then sent to the application (that is, field input or command character).

Talk:Input Method

2008-03-31T00:45:32Z

KlaymenDK: Added another point.

== A method from pocket pc ==

I've tried using this:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/screenshots.html

It works quite well. [[User:EsbenDamgaard|EsbenDamgaard]] 15:17, 21 March 2007 (CET)

== A method from Agenda VR3 ==

The [http://www.agendawiki.com Agenda VR3] was a linux-based PDA, also with no keyboard. Their solution was to provide an onscreen keyboard, but in addition to the A/a/1 buttons to have a button that opened up a pad for handwriting recognition. Early versions used something called 'scribble' but later versions used [http://www.hellkvist.org/software/ XMerlin]. So that might be an interesting idea.

== Some ideas ==

What about to use fonts for the Input metod? is it hard?
I think that the widget-keyboard could be dynamic.
Connect the input with the orphographic vocabulary,
so 5 most probable letters will have bigger area( enough for the finger)
(fonts are scalable sometimes)
As a transparent widget was shown,the bigger-letters can be on the background
of the whole keyboard - each letter on its place.
And you can find a little place for the button with the most probable word
(may be form with variants).

Maybe a landscape QWERTY-Keyboard with one preview text-line would be the best to input text. - maybe later as a transparent version without the textline...

== Handwriting ==

[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:KlaymenDK KlaymenDK] says: I don't want to mess things up, so I keep to the Talk page. Here's my issue:
This page seems to be the only one even mentioning handwriting. The article page states that the Input Method Widget supports "''both handwriting recognition, and keyboards''", yet the rest of the article seems to not discuss handwriting ''at all''.

I propose creating a section called "Handwriting" to contain this topic.

Being a happy user of a Palm T3 with TealScript, I am quite fond of using the stylus for text input, especially in the "write everywhere" mode where one can use the entire screen as an input area.

I believe that handwriting is worthy of consideration because:
* IMVHO, it is the most ''efficient method for fast input on small devices''.
* It is ''agnostic of keyboard layouts and special language variants'' (I use Norwegian Dvorak).
* It ''consumes no screen real estate'' at all!
* It ''does not preclude the use of an ad-hoc on-screen keyboard''.
* Can be used without a stylus (just use a fingernail and write big).

As I see it, there are two main issues:
# '''Are there any legal blocks to using handwriting recognition?''' It does not seem so; at least, several open source recognition toolkits exist ([http://lipitk.sourceforge.net/ LipiTK], [http://playground.sun.com/pub/multimedia/handwriting/hre.html HRE], [http://www.linux.com/feature/120867 CellWriter], [http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=open+source+handwriting+recognition others]). My main concern is if single-stroke characters are covered by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29 Graffiti] patents, and if TealPoint Software ([http://www.tealpoint.com/softscrp.htm TealScript]) holds any patents on ''user-configurable'' strokes.
# '''Is the OpenMoko actually capable of supporting online handwriting recognition?''' Here I mean in terms of processing power and real-time stroke resolution. This is a technical aspect I have no way of answering.

Another issue could be '''how to actually integrate the handwriting mode into the user interface'''. I think that the way it works on Palm/TealScript is quite nice, if not outright ideal. Basically, the way it works is: a tap is regarded as a tap if it's quick or if it's obviously a tap-and-hold. But a tap with a "running start" is regarded as a stroke and interpreted as a character, which is then sent to the application (that is, field input or command character).

Talk:Input Method

2008-03-31T00:33:40Z

KlaymenDK: Handwriting

== A method from pocket pc ==

I've tried using this:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/screenshots.html

It works quite well. [[User:EsbenDamgaard|EsbenDamgaard]] 15:17, 21 March 2007 (CET)

== A method from Agenda VR3 ==

The [http://www.agendawiki.com Agenda VR3] was a linux-based PDA, also with no keyboard. Their solution was to provide an onscreen keyboard, but in addition to the A/a/1 buttons to have a button that opened up a pad for handwriting recognition. Early versions used something called 'scribble' but later versions used [http://www.hellkvist.org/software/ XMerlin]. So that might be an interesting idea.

== Some ideas ==

What about to use fonts for the Input metod? is it hard?
I think that the widget-keyboard could be dynamic.
Connect the input with the orphographic vocabulary,
so 5 most probable letters will have bigger area( enough for the finger)
(fonts are scalable sometimes)
As a transparent widget was shown,the bigger-letters can be on the background
of the whole keyboard - each letter on its place.
And you can find a little place for the button with the most probable word
(may be form with variants).

Maybe a landscape QWERTY-Keyboard with one preview text-line would be the best to input text. - maybe later as a transparent version without the textline...

== Handwriting ==

[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:KlaymenDK KlaymenDK] says: I don't want to mess things up, so I keep to the Talk page. Here's my issue:
This page seems to be the only one even mentioning handwriting. The article page states that the Input Method Widget supports "''both handwriting recognition, and keyboards''", yet the rest of the article seems to not discuss handwriting ''at all''.

I propose creating a section called "Handwriting" to contain this topic.

Being a happy user of a Palm T3 with TealScript, I am quite fond of using the stylus for text input, especially in the "write everywhere" mode where one can use the entire screen as an input area.

I believe that handwriting is worthy of consideration because:
* IMVHO, it is the most ''efficient method for fast input on small devices''.
* It is ''agnostic of keyboard layouts and special language variants'' (I use Norwegian Dvorak).
* It ''consumes no screen real estate'' at all!
* It ''does not preclude the use of an ad-hoc on-screen keyboard''.

As I see it, there are two main issues:
# '''Are there any legal blocks to using handwriting recognition?''' It does not seem so; at least, several open source recognition toolkits exist ([http://lipitk.sourceforge.net/ LipiTK], [http://playground.sun.com/pub/multimedia/handwriting/hre.html HRE], [http://www.linux.com/feature/120867 CellWriter], [http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=open+source+handwriting+recognition others]). My main concern is if single-stroke characters are covered by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29 Graffiti] patents, and if TealPoint Software ([http://www.tealpoint.com/softscrp.htm TealScript]) holds any patents on ''user-configurable'' strokes.
# '''Is the OpenMoko actually capable of supporting online handwriting recognition?''' Here I mean in terms of processing power and real-time stroke resolution. This is a technical aspect I have no way of answering.

Another issue could be '''how to actually integrate the handwriting mode into the user interface'''. I think that the way it works on Palm/TealScript is quite nice, if not outright ideal. Basically, the way it works is: a tap is regarded as a tap if it's quick or if it's obviously a tap-and-hold. But a tap with a "running start" is regarded as a stroke and interpreted as a character, which is then sent to the application (that is, field input or command character).

Hardware:Neo1973:Alternate Cases:Solar power

2007-10-18T12:59:03Z

KlaymenDK: /* Interest */

Alternate case for the Neo1973, with a solar panel for recharging the battery.

==Design options==
The panel could be mounted on some or all of the six sides of the phone, depending upon the amount of power needed, the environment and the power produced by the panel.

==Rendered images==

==3D model==

==Materials==

==Processes==
Stereolithography

==Components==
Solar panel

==Interest==
Leave your nickname here if you are interested in having one made. This is not an order form, but is intended to gauge interest before effort is expended designing the case. 

{|
!No !! Nick !!
|-
|1. [[User:Tetraden|Tetraden]]
|-
|2. [[User:ruskie|ruskie]]
|-
|3. [[User:Denis std|Denis]]
|-
|4. [[User:sin|sin]]
|-
|5. [[User:Filippo|Filippo]]
|-
|6. [[User:Deedend|Deedend]]
|-
|7. [[User:Wedge|Wedge]]
|-
|8. [[User:Fradeve11|Fradeve11]]
|-
|9. [[User:Aeshaettr|Aeshaettr]]
|-
|10. [[User:Madoon|Madoon]]
|-
|11. [[User:larstobi|larstobi]]
|-
|12. [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]]
|}

[[Category:Neo1973_alternate_cases]]

Wish List - Hardware

2007-09-14T12:22:06Z

KlaymenDK: /* Less weight */

This page details hardware features which some would like to go into future phones similar to the [[Neo1973]].

Related pages are:
*[[Wishlist - Hardware - Novel Devices]] - openmoko will run on a large number of devices in the future, some of which may be DVD players, cameras, or convergance devices.
*[[Wishlist:Unlikely]] - Hardware that is unlikely to appear in any OpenMoko device, due to it being impossible to fabricate with near-term technology, or for other reasons.
*[[Wishlist:Accessories]] - Accessories that people would like, that connect easily to the phone - initially primarily for the Neo1973
*[[Wishlist:Expansion]] - add-ons to the phone, maybe involving hardware changes, and software and hardware protocols to implement these.

This page is rather long. Before adding a new idea, please read through this page and the above pages, to make sure your idea has not been suggested before.

==Processor==
===AT91CAP9S500A (ARM9 + FPGA-port)===
Why FPGA?:
*[http://hardware.silicon.com/servers/0,39024647,39166443,00.htm?r=1 20 March 2007 Green supercomputer is 'go' in Scotland] Quote: "...A supercomputer 10 times more energy efficient and up to 300 times faster than its traditional equivalents..."

Take a look at this microcontroller, that integrates an ARM9 microcontroller and a dedicated FPGA port: AT91CAP9S500A. It has "only" a max. clock at 200MHz, but can use a FPGA for hardware acceleration, that could be used for video (de)compression, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AacPlus_v2 aacPlus v2]/[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HE-AAC_v2 HE-AAC v2] sound (de)compression and many other things. HE-AAC v2 is better than [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3 MP3].
*[http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/product_card.asp?family_id=689&family_name=AT91CAP+Microcontrollers&part_id=4137 AT91CAP9S500A] Quote: "...The AT91CAP9S500A is built around a 12-layer bus matrix, allowing a maximum internal bandwidth of twelve 32-bit buses. Its distributed DMA architecture enables multiple data transfers to take place between the processor, memories and peripherals with minimal processor overhead...".
*[http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc6310.pdf GNU-Based Software Development on AT91SAM Microcontrollers]
*Maybe this is a good tool?: [http://www.jhdl.org/ BYU JHDL, Open Source FPGA CAD Tools]
*[http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=197002705 02/05/2007, FPGA tool bottleneck stalls HPC] Quote: "...Current FPGA synthesis, placement and routing tools are written for hardware designers, not software programmers simply trying to accelerate an algorithm..."

This seems to be a good hardware mix (ARM+FPGA). It does [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theora Ogg Theora] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MJPEG MJPEG] in the FPGA with 1 million gates:
*http://sourceforge.net/projects/elphel, [http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=10353 board 10353], [http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=Camera_hardware camera hardware], [http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Main page], [http://www.elphel.com/articles/index.html Imaging solutions with Free software and open hardware]

Just another FPGA+microcontroller example:
*[http://melzer.ch/html/body_alya.html The Alya Project] ([http://home.nikocity.de/andymon/hfg/Alya/alya.html old page])
*[http://melzer.ch/ALYA.ASM PIC assembler source code], [http://melzer.ch/ALYA.TDF Altera FPGA code]. Schematic: [http://melzer.ch/Schaltplan1.gif], [http://melzer.ch/Schaltplan2.gif], [http://melzer.ch/Schaltplan3.gif]

===Samsung S3C2443===
*[http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=229&partnum=S3C2443&&ppmi=1427 Samsung S3C2443] Up to 533 MHz, USB 2.0

==Possible FPGA==
This FPGA is just an example:
*[http://www.xilinx.com/products/silicon_solutions/fpgas/spartan_series/spartan3an_fpgas/capabilities/index.htm Spartan-3AN FPGA Capabilities] Quote: "...Simple and secure embedded application storage with up to 11Mb of integrated user Flash...Enable simple arithmetic and math functions as well as advanced DSP functions to derive over 330 Giga MACs/sec...Up to 32 18 x 18 embedded multipliers support 18-bit signed or 17-bit unsigned multiplication, and can be cascaded to support wider bits..."
**XC3S1400AN-4FGG676CES $91
**XC3S200AN-4FTG256CES $25.87

====Tool for FPGAs====
*[http://www.xilinx.com/ise/logic_design_prod/webpack.htm xilinx.com: ISE WebPACK is the industry´s only FREE, fully featured front-to-back FPGA design solution for Linux, Windows XP, and Windows Vista]

===Asynchronous FPGA, AFPGA===
*[http://www.achronix.com/products.html Achronix-ULTRA]
**[http://www.pldesignline.com/news/186700955 Achronix preps 2-GHz Asynchronous FPGA for sampling in 2007]
**[http://vlsi.cornell.edu/fpga.php Asynchronous VLSI and Architecture, Cornell University: Asynchronous Field-Programmable Gate Arrays (AFPGAs)] Quote: "...integrated pipelining support..."
**[http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/teifel03programmable.html Programmable Asynchronous Pipeline Arrays (2003) John Teifel, Rajit Manohar]

==Internal Memory==
===RAM===
128MB Dedicated for open files, running software etc., not for storage, or 256MB at all would be really nice and enough for any future software.

===ROM===
Enough to Hold O/S and a fair number of applications and their settings. Persistent Storage with XIP capability. About 128 MB.

===Storage===
An internal Micro SDHC should be used for users' files and additional software

==Wireless data networking==

===WiMAX support===
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimax WiMAX] is a high-speed data service, similar to wifi, though longer range and newer. Where service is available, this would complement WiFi. Unfortunately, unlike wifi, frequencies vary worldwide, so global usage may be complex.

===Emerging Protocols===
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Field_Communication Near Field Communication] has a few centimeter range, useable for keys, ID badges, pairing bluetooth devices and similar uses. Mentioned in newer bluetooth and SD standards. (No products.)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZigBee ZigBee] is designed for connecting sensors and switches in buildings, with many options including mesh networks and aggressive power saving compared to bluetooth. (Almost no products available.)
*The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANT_%28network%29 ANT network] is for connecting worn devices. Similar to ZigBee, but much simpler and maybe lower power. ([http://www.thisisant.com/?section=9 Short list] of products.)

==Camera==

* A camera that can take reasonable quality video and pictures is something many want. Applications vary from simple snapping, to gesture interfaces, video conferencing, barcode reading, buisness card reading, healthcare, servicing, and more.

* Some people can't take cameras into work - a model without the camera, or some way of removing the camera would be useful or leave the camera chip in place and have a removable lens assembly and replacement backcover.

* See [[Wishlist:Camera]] for a more detailed wishlist.

==Display==
===Multitouch screen===

''Main article: [[Wishlist:Spell_weaving|Spell weaving]]''

See also [http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/27/the-multi-touch-screen/ this page] containing a link to a video demonstration.

A history of multitouch implementations is [http://billbuxton.com/multitouchOverview.html here] ([http://google.com/search?q=cache:billbuxton.com/multitouchOverview.html google cache version])

*Use examples: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcKqyn-gUbY&mode=related&search= Multi-touch interface (from Adobe TED)], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ftJhDBZqss&mode=related&search= Multi Touch (new touchscreen technology)]

===Bigger and better screen===
2.8" widescreen (like in [http://etencorp.com E-ten] PDA/smartphones), or 3.5" widescreen (like in [http://www.expansys.ie/d.aspx?i=134944 Fujitsu Siemens LOOX N560]).

262k or 16.7M colurs for displaying images and especially videos.

OLED for better contrast, more rich colours, and less energy consumption.

Maybe the [http://www.sharpsme.com/Page.aspx/europe/en/part/LS037V7DW01/ LS037V7DW01] by Sharp could be a solution. It has nearly the same specs as the currently used, but 3,7" -- [[User:Wedge | Wedge]]

===Distance sensing touchscreen===
{{Main|Hardware:NearlyTouchScreen}}
TouchKo's (now Wacom Company Ltd.) spatial capacitive "touchscreen", can sense fingers at a small distance, so you do not get your display greasy, and can unlike some touchscreens, be operated with gloves.

===<s>Video acceleration</s>===
Hardware acceleration for video playback and 2D/3D accelleration will be present in [[Neo1973 GTA02]].

===EPD===
Or electronic paper display, EPD is used in many new devices such as the new Motorola motofone, sonys new e-reader and Irex's iliad. The technology provides thin, lightweight, power saving screens using new eink technology. This technology could cut the weight of the phone and its power usage. For more info see: [http://www.eink.com eink's website].

Pro: laserprinter like quality, glossy, very stable image, easy on the eyes. Electronics are similar to TFT. Very low power consumption.

Con: Black and grey only (like a newspaper, but glossy), although there were already color prototypes in 2005. low framerate (5fps). Can reflect light (like paper), backlight is impossible.

===Transreflective===
It would be nice to have (the option of) a transreflective display, which while being less bright, is readable without needing to power the backlight. Then again, it depends on how much power the backlight uses compared to everything else...

==="Slightly" Larger Screen===
43mm x 57mm (2.8inch diagonal) is tiny. A 53mm x 71mm (3.5 inch diagonal) like on the TD035STEE1 would be a nice improvement. A widescreen format at about 53mm x 82.5mm instead of the 3:4 aspect ratio would be even cooler (if one could be found).

===Second Display===
A 32x32 OLED display possibly on the back for camera framing or on an edge so it can be viewed like a pager.
This could be used to display any number of alerts (from any installed software) the alerts could have a dynamic prioritisation which means during the work day a message from the boss has high priority but lower at home (could be GPS/Time controlled?) multiple alerts shrink the icons to a 3x3 grid higher priority messages get more space.

==Input devices==

===No Dependence on Stylus===
The Neo's basic functionality should be completely usable without a stylus, Like the iPhone but with stylus use for precision work.

===A laser projection keyboard===
Similar to [http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ this], except the device would be integrated into the phone itself. Setting the Neo up on a stand on a flat surface (perhaps a stand could be built into the back of the Neo itself, or into a case) would turn the Neo into a micro-laptop. There may be several issues with the inclusion of this technology, including patents, the space required to project the laser grids, and the power consumption. If possible, however, it would make text input a breeze.

===Just a few more Buttons===

2 buttons more, 3 buttons total, mounted sideways would be enough. You could use them for play/pause and loudness controll while the phone remains in your pocket (display locked, ...), reading mails, rss, ebooks,... without wasting display space and so on.

With 5 buttons in total you could possibly emulate a keyboard (2^5 = 32 combinations) for those who know how to play a flute. Useable onehanded, not wasting display space and faster than t9. (It's not faster than T9 - I've used this system with the microwriter agenda --[[User:Speedevil|Speedevil]] 00:00, 2 July 2007 (CEST)) Hopefully this is not patented already.

===D-Pad and Buttons===
*Adding a D-pad (to the bottom of the phone) and 2 to 4 buttons (to the top) would provide some tactile input controls, in addition to the touchscreen. They could be used as shortcut keys in the menu, or playback control when playing media. When the phone is held sideways, they can be used as games controls. (With touchscreen alone, gameplay options are limited)

Game buttons would be best on both sides of the screen. The larger the buttons, the better. 2x 4 buttons in up-down-left-right configuration + some extra buttons separately a bit lower on the device would be good for many for emulation games.

Here is a concept drawing of a possible neo1973 gaming version:
(This has a 4-way direction pad, 8 way may be better for gaming)
 
[[Image:Neogame90.jpg]]
 
Shoulder buttons would be a great addition, too. It would be interesting if there was a total 4 of them, one for every corner. It would make the phone very flexible for rotating and 2 to 6 players playing on one device.
 

===Thumb keyboard or keyboard attachment accessory===
*Could be slide out or clamshell (hinge on long side) design with an external OLED. The keyboard should be protected when not in use.
*Could be a clip on keyboard that attaches to the serial port or communicates by bluetooth (not preferred for permanent keyboard users).
*Cheap clippable miniusb keyboard
*One of the layouts proposed in [[Hardware:Keyboards]]
* What about virtual keyboard? [[http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,539778,00.asp Keyboard]]

===Analogue Controllers===

====Trackball====
A trackball would provide an efficient mouse-like interface in a very compact package. As exemplified in the newer Blackberry® models.
Maybe instead an optical sensor as are used in mice could be used so that the whole phone can be moved over a surface just like a mouse. (It could function as a Bluetooth mouse for other devices like laptop computers: see [[Bluetooth_Support#Acting_as_HID_device]]. Adding one other two-axis analogue input (possibly just the screen) would make the Neo usable as a TrackPoint or scroll-and-tilt mouse.) The same sensor might be usable as a barcode reader.

====Analog Joystick====
A joystick, or [http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1772689,00.asp Rollermouse]-like device would provide additional control, compared with touchscreen only.
*A standard [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick pointing stick (ie. TrackPoint)] might serve well. As a fairly standard part, might they be quite inexpensive?

====Dual analogues====
Dual analogue controllers (one trackball or joystick above, one below the screen, most likely) might even be feasible. That might be overkill since the accelerometers or touchscreen can be used to provide a second analogue input. But it would be nice to have four axes of analogue control without having to tilt the screen away from you or partly cover it with your hand.

===TV/radio receiver===
[[Digital Television]], [[Digital Radio]] or even normal analogue TV/radio is available widely in the world. Though unfortunately in various different forms. In markets where one standard is widespread, and hardware is suitable, it would be a great extension of the phone to a general entertainment device for when you're away from home. Multi standard devices would be ideal, but may not be small, low-power, or cheap.

===Accelerometer===
This enables the phone to sense which direction 'down' is, and to sense any movements the phone makes.

See [[Accelerometer Fundamentals]] for more information on accelerometers as they may be used in phones.

In some cases integrated gyroscopes may also be needed. A [[#Digital compass]] can even be of more use since it gives absolute rotation so slow rotations could also be measured. A 3D compass would be nicest, but a simple 2D compass already is a helpful addition to the accelerometers.

*[[Wishlist:3D Viewport|3D Viewport]]
*[[Wishlist:Computer Mouse|Computer Mouse]]
*[[Wishlist:Determine Position|Determine Position]]
*[[Wishlist:Dynamic Screen Orientation|Dynamic Screen Orientation]]
*Change media player playlist when jogging vs walking.
*Attempt to use to stabilise any future camera.

This feature is scheduled for inclusion in the phase 2 Neo1973, currently slated for release in October 2007.

===Side-Mounted Touch Strip===
Add a "touch strip" sensor onto the side of the phone which can be used to scroll. By having it on the side you can use your thumb to scroll comfortably while holding the phone one-handed. An 8-element capacitive sensor would work wonderfully and be easy to fab using either a Quantum QT411 (http://www.qprox.com/products/qslide_qt411.php) or Analog Devices AD7143 (http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,2877,AD7143,00.html) controller. The Analog Devices chip seems better suited due to it's smaller allowable element size.
*With the AD7143 you can have an 8-element (128-position) 25mm long strip - Perfect!.
*With a few OLED screens beneath the strip it could be used as dynamic configurable buttons/alerts eg. zoom/flash/shutter with a camera application and SMS/Email/Voicemail alerts in standby

===Heart Rate Compatibility===

An RF interface to receive data from popular heart rate straps (Polar, Garmin, Sigma, Suunto, etc.). This would go along well with the existing GPS functionality and possible future Accelerometer functionality to make for a full-blown workout tool.

Software can be written to track heart rate along a running, cycling, skiing, swimming loop, to monitor max and min heart rate, to match heart rate data to GPS coordinates and print map data w/ relevant data.

===Digital compass===
A digital compass is useful for orienting maps to the terrain and other location/direction/orientation based applications (... is 300 meter that way) when the user is standing still (regardless of GPS reception) and for following a bearing when GPS reception is poor or speed is low. Also could be used to make the accelerometer data more exact.

Very small [[I2C]] sensors like [http://www.ssec.honeywell.com/magnetic/hmc6352.html Honeywell's HMC6352 2-Axis Digital Integrated Compass] (6.5 x 6.5 x 1.5 mm) are very appropriate for this.

*[[Wishlist:Auto Align Map]]

See [[Wishlist - Hardware: Digital compass]] for more information

===Thermometer===
An electronic thermometer might become handy for some users.

There are very small [[I2C]] devices available, that could easily integrate to the existing bus. For example [http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tmp100.html this one from ti].
(Could just be cheap and use the thermometer from the battery, thats how they did it in the nokia 5140's). Also is integrated in a barometer/altimeter like the SMD500 mentioned in [[Wish List - Hardware - Atmospheric]].

===Barometer and Variometer===

A Barometer measures air pressure. This can be used to give weather information, and also as a variometer, to sense relative altitude. Variometers are commonly used in flying microlight and ultralight aircraft, to get accurate relative altitude.

See [[Wish List - Hardware - Atmospheric]] for more information.

===Finger print sensor===
A fingerprint sensor gives easy and fast access to the phone, could lock the touchscreen etc. An example of this device can be found at [http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start?CategoryName=cpu_VAIONotebookComputers_UX_Series&Dept=computers Sony UX17].

Most fingerprint sensors in the embedded market include a navigation mode, where they work similar to either a touch-stick or touch-pad of a laptop.

===Barcode Scanner===
*less cpu intensive and more reliable than camera+ocr
*though, bluetooth-enabled readers are already available.

===Light Sensor===
Ability to sense ambient light, and act accordingly. i.e if it's 3am and LightValue<.1 then Ring Quietly.

===Wheel===
A navigation wheel like on a sony/ericsson 810i would be nice.

===Proximity Sensor===
Switch off backlight when you place the phone to your ear. Prevent accidental activation of speakerphone or other sounds when the phone is near the ear (prevent hearing damage). Possibly switch the speakerphone on or off automatically depending on if the phone is by your head or not.

=== Make ''all'' unlocking of phone, password protected===

When my (current non-neophone) phone is in my pocket and I have it locked, it sometimes accidentally unlocks itself since only two keystrokes in the correct order are necessary to unlock it. When it's unlocked and still in my pocket it sometimes calls someone without my knowledge. All phones I've seen today have a press-just-one-button bypass to answer an incoming call even when the phone is locked. I suggest making the locking mechanism let the user configure it so that the user has to enter a password even for answering incoming calls. The likeliness of the phone accidentally runbbing against my car keys, hitting a ten character long password, unlocking the phone without my knowledge and consent is low enough even for us most unlucky users.

==Expansion==
===Positioning of Buttons, Connections and ports===

Ideally any cable ports such as charging, USB, audio, docking should not get in the way of your hand or fingers when holding it in it's normal orientation. For the sake of SDIO cards an external SD slot should be on the top edge. IR for remote control software and ease of inter-device communication should be on the corner so that it is facing away from you for both orientations. Buttons obviously are positioned for finger control. An example of how '''not''' to do this would be the HTC Universal

===Storage===

====MMC/SD/SDIO slot (rather than?) miniSD or microSD====
*Cheaper, more durable cards in a widely accepted format.
*Much much larger storage capacity, [http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/2007/08/23/toshiba_unleash_1.html even 32GB]
*Cards are harder to lose
*Wider selection of accessories, including SDIO accessories.
*Make externally available so that larger length SDIO cards can be used (thinking about SDIO WLAN here)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC SDHC] compatible. It seems to already have the right hardware for it - see [[Neo1973_Hardware#microSD-Card]].

====Two SD slots====
*Micro SDHC for /home partition. Keep like current design underneath SIM card
*Hot swappable externally accessible normal size SDHC/SDIO slot

===Local Communication===

====USB====
* 5V Powered, to avoid having to carry around a hub for when you want to occasionally plug in a memory stick. Many powered hubs will not recognize a totally unpowered host. Provide a maximum current to drive a basic USB keyboard/memory stick/mouse/webcam/astrowebcam. This could be done by adding a small cheap power converter like the [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM2753.html LM2753]
* USB 2.0
* Standard type A socket for quick & easy insertion of memory sticks etc.
* OTG (is this maybe supported already ?)
* Bootable USB device emulation: the possibility to boot any computer on a bootable flagged partition of the transflash.
* Protection against incorrectly wired USB ports: some USB ports are wired incorrectly; if the +5V and GND are swapped, the device would get -5V when it's expecting +5V, which could burn some chips. A reverse-biased diode between +5V and GND, D+ and GND, D- and GND, and (if used) ID and GND, with a low enough forward voltage drop (to limite the negative voltages to what the chips can withstand), would protect the device by tripping the port's short circuit protection.

====Wireless USB support====
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_USB Wireless USB] is the wireless version of USB offering data-rates up to 480 Mbit/s over short distances (<3 meter). Chipsets suitable for a phone are likely to take some time to be available.

====SIR/FIR transceiver (Serial Infrared) / IR remote control====
*An infrared transceiver is cheap, small, and useful for sync with many laptops and mobile phones.
*Replace/emulate all IR-based remote controls used for your tv, vcr, etc on your neo cell phone.
** replaces multiple 'dumb' devices with a single intelligent device (your neo) that you will probably carry with you at all times anyway.
**Command sets should be retrieved from a database or learned from other less intelligent remote control devices with macros.
**reduces clutter, particularly in the living room.
**inceases the neo's practical status as an 'always-have' device.

Other uses.
*Detecting reflections from inside of a caddy, and switching from active mode.
*FIR would be a nice option, as it's some 40 times faster than SIR.

===Other===

====Video Out====
*Through a docking port
**S-Video/Composite Out
**DVI Out

==Output devices==

===LED===
*The Neo1973 GTA02 will have LEDs of some sort behind at least one button. [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/008458.html]
*A blinking LED would be a cheap, low power way to inform the user of new SMS/Email....
**An alternative to this would be for one small part of the LCD to be separately backlit.
**This requires the CPU and LCD to be somewhat active, to keep the LCD refreshed, but gives much more information.
**A Small OLED Screen could be used and display much more information than a LED with minimal power usage.

*For example a multicolor LED which pulses yellow for GSM/GPRS transmit, blue for Bluetooth/Wifi, green to indicate non-urgent information - missed call etc, red to indicate battery low or other urgent notices.

**The LED and button ideas could be combined: illuminated buttons.
**It must be possible to completely disable the LED to save power or other personal preferences.

=== Flashlight ===
For finding keys, or any other application. May also optionally pulse in time with ring, to make phone more visible.
This is really well done in Nokia 5500.

=== FM transmitter ===
Small FM transmitter to output to car, and other nearby radios.

===HAC Compliance===
[http://quux.wiki.zoho.com/WhereAreHACphones.html Here] is some summary/discussion of how hearing aid compliance rules work in the US. Specifically it would be nice to see the phone include a [http://www.hearingresearch.org/Dr.Ross/telecoil_and_telephones.htm telecoil], which allows the phone to connect wirelessly to many standard hearing aids.

==Mobile Communication options==

===Generic Access Network / Unlicensed Mobile Access===
This technology requires cooperation from the cellular provider, but [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlicensed_Mobile_Access UMA/GAN] is already offered by T-Mobile in the United States, and perhaps others in other countries. Allowing the user to roam from GSM to wifi, this technology can save the end user a significant amount of money, and also allow the user to deploy coverage where there was none before. There are only a few UMA capable phones currently, but it would be great if this could be made to work on a phase 2 type OpenMoko device.

Note that this features requires a more advanced access to the GSM modem. Special messages needs to be exchanged with the network.

===Faster/better mobile connectivity.===
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gsm GSM]/[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPRS GPRS] is at best slow. An incremental improvement would be a radio with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDGE EDGE ] support. EDGE is an evolved GSM standard and, like GPRS, it operates on the same frequency as voice. This means a quad-band EDGE radio will have near-complete worldwide coverage.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS UMTS] - which is widespread in Europe and being deployed in the US, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA HSDPA] (asia) and any other mobile standards would be nice for faster data connectivity and coverage.
It is unlikely that all of these will be supported initially, but it is a goal. These faster standards operate in different frequencies from GSM/GPRS/EDGE. Which frequency exactly will depend on the carrier and country. For UMTS in the US, AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz but T-Mobile will use 2100/1700 MHz for example.

Until that goal is reached, it is likely that some phones will be brought out for various specific markets - Europe, Asia, US.

===Ability to use multiple SIMs/networks===
* External SIM sockets are widely available in China, a dual external socket would be a very good solution.
* [http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/dualsim/digital.htm Dual SIM card kit] - two SIMs are trimmed and combined, software supportwould be needed, and both can't be used at once...
* Some networks support multiple numbers on one SIM. Unfortunately this won't allow split networks.
* A second/dual GSM module would allow full use of both sims at all times.
* As a hack, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#Bluetooth_powered_Multi-SIM_support use another mobile via BT].
** As many as three SIM slots would be genuinely useful, especially for a 3G phone - some 3G data tariffs are only available on data-only SIMs. A user could quite reasonably have one SIM for data, once SIM for his personal voice calls, and a third SIM for his business number.

===PMR446/FRS Radio===
* Include a PMR/FRS Radio.
* A two-way walkie talkie lets you use the phone to communicate with friends without requiring a GSM connection (crowded networks at festivals, at locations with no GSM coverage).

===DECT/GAP===
* Include a DECT/GAP transceiver so you can use your home and/or office PSTN line
** Ability to use Alcatel phonebook stuff (like provided by the eventphone.de phone equipment) would be very nice too

==Casing==
See also: [[Alternate Neo1973 case designs]] for a list of cases being considered for design/manufacture by the community.

===[[Expansion Back]]===
* Replacement backs with additional features ranging from solar power, larger batteries, extra hardware, ...

===Space efficient Lanyard===
The hole at the bottom of the phone takes a lot of space. A [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Security_Slot Kensington Security Slot] could be used instead.

=== Ruggedized version ===
We need something you can drop from 4 feet in to a puddle of dirty water on construction site. Sunlight readable display. The big ugly pseudo military version.

=== Transparent ===
Make a transparent, see-through casing. Why do we need a closed casing for open hardware and open software? Show the world it is a truly Free/Open source phone.

===[[Wishlist:Expansion Front|Expansion Front]]===
Replacement fronts with e.g. extra buttons.

==Misc==
===Galileo/GLONASS/GPS receiver===
*A multi-standard satellite positioning module would be nice eventually, it does not seem to be near-term due to chipset availability problems. Galileo is the to be launched (2011) European positioning system. GLONASS is the already existing Russian one.

===X10 RF Remote===
Many PC-based media centers are being equipped with an RF (433 MHz) / X10-based remote control. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_(industry_standard) X10] protocol also facilitates home automation to control lamps, switches, etc.
The advantages of using RF for control instead of Infra-red this that it also works when furniture, walls, or doors are blocking the path between RF remote and the equipment or device. [http://www.lirc.org/ Lirc] supports X10-based RF remotes (but expects having an USB RF receiver attached to the media center).

===RFID tag/RFID Reader===
* Implementation/Cooperation with: [http://www.rfidguardian.org/ RFID-Guardian]
*An enable-able tag would be of use - for example being able to use the phone to open doors, or cars. Unfortunately, it's moderately hard to do secure programmable tags that are compatible with existing systems, for obvious reasons.
* Say you have RFID tags on your personal belongings: cellphone, keys... Neo could be programmed to remember the last recorded GPS location before it lost contact with the respective RFIDs. It'd be trivial to check where you left your cellphone, get directions from a map...or beep when the phone gets out of RFID range.

===Less weight===
* Work on the weight of the Neo1973 and following devices. At the present time the Neo1973 is just a moderate / normal business or multimedia phone. The ordinary "user" may want something lighter. Take a look at the following table, that's the Neo1973 compared with other common bussiness or multimedia phones.
{|border="1"
| Neo1973 || Fujitsu-Siemens LOOX N560 || E-Ten Glofiish X500+ || Sony Ericsson P990i || iPhone || Nokia E65
|-
| 184 g || 160 g || 146 g || 150 g || 135 g || 115 g
|-
|}

===Make it smaller===
* To stay within physical matters: Maybe the Neo1973 is also just a normal business/multimedia phone when looking at the size. It would be great the shrink it a bit. Especially the thickness of 18.5 mm could be worked on!

===Standard 3.5mm headphone jack===
The Neo1973 uses a 4-conductor 2.5mm jack for stereo headphones and a microphone. A 2.5mm jack is the most common for headsets.

There is an emerging convention used in the Nokia N800 and some other devices. A 4-conductor 3.5mm jack that can use a microphone with special headsets, but can also be used with off-the-shelf 3.5mm stereo headphones. Adapters to 2.5mm are of course available and this 3.5mm jack is much more robust.

Neglecting space limitations, multiple sockets - 2.5mm and 3.5mm would be nice. Probably not practical in a phone. Other expanded plugs might allow remote controls.

Other uses might be better met using bluetooth, or USB audio.

===Laser Pointer===
Include a built in laser pointer. Everything is better with lasers.

===Completely free hardware===
Consider selling one device with absolutely no non-free components in it, even if that means dropping the GSM support. I believe having one such device available would be good, because then it could be recommended by organizations like the FSF which typically never recommends anything if it has even a little non-free code in it.

=== Consider economy / inexpensive / less featured edition ===
Some people want less features, because they do not need them. Leaving out some features either lets the phone get smaller or possibly enhances battery live.

One big suggestion in this area is a b/w lower res display instead of the big color display.

=== Inductive Charger ===

It would be nice if it was possible to charge the phone without having to connect a cable. I'd like to have a simple docking station with an inductive charger like the type that's used for electric toothbrushes [http://home.howstuffworks.com/question292.htm ]. The charger itself could get its power from a standard wall-wart power supply, or it could be USB/Firewire powered.

==Related Hardware==
See [[Related Hardware]]

[[Category:Hardware ideas| ]]
[[Category:User]]

Wish List - Hardware

2007-09-14T12:19:17Z

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This page details hardware features which some would like to go into future phones similar to the [[Neo1973]].

Related pages are:
*[[Wishlist - Hardware - Novel Devices]] - openmoko will run on a large number of devices in the future, some of which may be DVD players, cameras, or convergance devices.
*[[Wishlist:Unlikely]] - Hardware that is unlikely to appear in any OpenMoko device, due to it being impossible to fabricate with near-term technology, or for other reasons.
*[[Wishlist:Accessories]] - Accessories that people would like, that connect easily to the phone - initially primarily for the Neo1973
*[[Wishlist:Expansion]] - add-ons to the phone, maybe involving hardware changes, and software and hardware protocols to implement these.

This page is rather long. Before adding a new idea, please read through this page and the above pages, to make sure your idea has not been suggested before.

==Processor==
===AT91CAP9S500A (ARM9 + FPGA-port)===
Why FPGA?:
*[http://hardware.silicon.com/servers/0,39024647,39166443,00.htm?r=1 20 March 2007 Green supercomputer is 'go' in Scotland] Quote: "...A supercomputer 10 times more energy efficient and up to 300 times faster than its traditional equivalents..."

Take a look at this microcontroller, that integrates an ARM9 microcontroller and a dedicated FPGA port: AT91CAP9S500A. It has "only" a max. clock at 200MHz, but can use a FPGA for hardware acceleration, that could be used for video (de)compression, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AacPlus_v2 aacPlus v2]/[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HE-AAC_v2 HE-AAC v2] sound (de)compression and many other things. HE-AAC v2 is better than [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3 MP3].
*[http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/product_card.asp?family_id=689&family_name=AT91CAP+Microcontrollers&part_id=4137 AT91CAP9S500A] Quote: "...The AT91CAP9S500A is built around a 12-layer bus matrix, allowing a maximum internal bandwidth of twelve 32-bit buses. Its distributed DMA architecture enables multiple data transfers to take place between the processor, memories and peripherals with minimal processor overhead...".
*[http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc6310.pdf GNU-Based Software Development on AT91SAM Microcontrollers]
*Maybe this is a good tool?: [http://www.jhdl.org/ BYU JHDL, Open Source FPGA CAD Tools]
*[http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=197002705 02/05/2007, FPGA tool bottleneck stalls HPC] Quote: "...Current FPGA synthesis, placement and routing tools are written for hardware designers, not software programmers simply trying to accelerate an algorithm..."

This seems to be a good hardware mix (ARM+FPGA). It does [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theora Ogg Theora] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MJPEG MJPEG] in the FPGA with 1 million gates:
*http://sourceforge.net/projects/elphel, [http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=10353 board 10353], [http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=Camera_hardware camera hardware], [http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Main page], [http://www.elphel.com/articles/index.html Imaging solutions with Free software and open hardware]

Just another FPGA+microcontroller example:
*[http://melzer.ch/html/body_alya.html The Alya Project] ([http://home.nikocity.de/andymon/hfg/Alya/alya.html old page])
*[http://melzer.ch/ALYA.ASM PIC assembler source code], [http://melzer.ch/ALYA.TDF Altera FPGA code]. Schematic: [http://melzer.ch/Schaltplan1.gif], [http://melzer.ch/Schaltplan2.gif], [http://melzer.ch/Schaltplan3.gif]

===Samsung S3C2443===
*[http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=229&partnum=S3C2443&&ppmi=1427 Samsung S3C2443] Up to 533 MHz, USB 2.0

==Possible FPGA==
This FPGA is just an example:
*[http://www.xilinx.com/products/silicon_solutions/fpgas/spartan_series/spartan3an_fpgas/capabilities/index.htm Spartan-3AN FPGA Capabilities] Quote: "...Simple and secure embedded application storage with up to 11Mb of integrated user Flash...Enable simple arithmetic and math functions as well as advanced DSP functions to derive over 330 Giga MACs/sec...Up to 32 18 x 18 embedded multipliers support 18-bit signed or 17-bit unsigned multiplication, and can be cascaded to support wider bits..."
**XC3S1400AN-4FGG676CES $91
**XC3S200AN-4FTG256CES $25.87

====Tool for FPGAs====
*[http://www.xilinx.com/ise/logic_design_prod/webpack.htm xilinx.com: ISE WebPACK is the industry´s only FREE, fully featured front-to-back FPGA design solution for Linux, Windows XP, and Windows Vista]

===Asynchronous FPGA, AFPGA===
*[http://www.achronix.com/products.html Achronix-ULTRA]
**[http://www.pldesignline.com/news/186700955 Achronix preps 2-GHz Asynchronous FPGA for sampling in 2007]
**[http://vlsi.cornell.edu/fpga.php Asynchronous VLSI and Architecture, Cornell University: Asynchronous Field-Programmable Gate Arrays (AFPGAs)] Quote: "...integrated pipelining support..."
**[http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/teifel03programmable.html Programmable Asynchronous Pipeline Arrays (2003) John Teifel, Rajit Manohar]

==Internal Memory==
===RAM===
128MB Dedicated for open files, running software etc., not for storage, or 256MB at all would be really nice and enough for any future software.

===ROM===
Enough to Hold O/S and a fair number of applications and their settings. Persistent Storage with XIP capability. About 128 MB.

===Storage===
An internal Micro SDHC should be used for users' files and additional software

==Wireless data networking==

===WiMAX support===
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimax WiMAX] is a high-speed data service, similar to wifi, though longer range and newer. Where service is available, this would complement WiFi. Unfortunately, unlike wifi, frequencies vary worldwide, so global usage may be complex.

===Emerging Protocols===
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Field_Communication Near Field Communication] has a few centimeter range, useable for keys, ID badges, pairing bluetooth devices and similar uses. Mentioned in newer bluetooth and SD standards. (No products.)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZigBee ZigBee] is designed for connecting sensors and switches in buildings, with many options including mesh networks and aggressive power saving compared to bluetooth. (Almost no products available.)
*The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANT_%28network%29 ANT network] is for connecting worn devices. Similar to ZigBee, but much simpler and maybe lower power. ([http://www.thisisant.com/?section=9 Short list] of products.)

==Camera==

* A camera that can take reasonable quality video and pictures is something many want. Applications vary from simple snapping, to gesture interfaces, video conferencing, barcode reading, buisness card reading, healthcare, servicing, and more.

* Some people can't take cameras into work - a model without the camera, or some way of removing the camera would be useful or leave the camera chip in place and have a removable lens assembly and replacement backcover.

* See [[Wishlist:Camera]] for a more detailed wishlist.

==Display==
===Multitouch screen===

''Main article: [[Wishlist:Spell_weaving|Spell weaving]]''

See also [http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/27/the-multi-touch-screen/ this page] containing a link to a video demonstration.

A history of multitouch implementations is [http://billbuxton.com/multitouchOverview.html here] ([http://google.com/search?q=cache:billbuxton.com/multitouchOverview.html google cache version])

*Use examples: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcKqyn-gUbY&mode=related&search= Multi-touch interface (from Adobe TED)], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ftJhDBZqss&mode=related&search= Multi Touch (new touchscreen technology)]

===Bigger and better screen===
2.8" widescreen (like in [http://etencorp.com E-ten] PDA/smartphones), or 3.5" widescreen (like in [http://www.expansys.ie/d.aspx?i=134944 Fujitsu Siemens LOOX N560]).

262k or 16.7M colurs for displaying images and especially videos.

OLED for better contrast, more rich colours, and less energy consumption.

Maybe the [http://www.sharpsme.com/Page.aspx/europe/en/part/LS037V7DW01/ LS037V7DW01] by Sharp could be a solution. It has nearly the same specs as the currently used, but 3,7" -- [[User:Wedge | Wedge]]

===Distance sensing touchscreen===
{{Main|Hardware:NearlyTouchScreen}}
TouchKo's (now Wacom Company Ltd.) spatial capacitive "touchscreen", can sense fingers at a small distance, so you do not get your display greasy, and can unlike some touchscreens, be operated with gloves.

===<s>Video acceleration</s>===
Hardware acceleration for video playback and 2D/3D accelleration will be present in [[Neo1973 GTA02]].

===EPD===
Or electronic paper display, EPD is used in many new devices such as the new Motorola motofone, sonys new e-reader and Irex's iliad. The technology provides thin, lightweight, power saving screens using new eink technology. This technology could cut the weight of the phone and its power usage. For more info see: [http://www.eink.com eink's website].

Pro: laserprinter like quality, glossy, very stable image, easy on the eyes. Electronics are similar to TFT. Very low power consumption.

Con: Black and grey only (like a newspaper, but glossy), although there were already color prototypes in 2005. low framerate (5fps). Can reflect light (like paper), backlight is impossible.

===Transreflective===
It would be nice to have (the option of) a transreflective display, which while being less bright, is readable without needing to power the backlight. Then again, it depends on how much power the backlight uses compared to everything else...

==="Slightly" Larger Screen===
43mm x 57mm (2.8inch diagonal) is tiny. A 53mm x 71mm (3.5 inch diagonal) like on the TD035STEE1 would be a nice improvement. A widescreen format at about 53mm x 82.5mm instead of the 3:4 aspect ratio would be even cooler (if one could be found).

===Second Display===
A 32x32 OLED display possibly on the back for camera framing or on an edge so it can be viewed like a pager.
This could be used to display any number of alerts (from any installed software) the alerts could have a dynamic prioritisation which means during the work day a message from the boss has high priority but lower at home (could be GPS/Time controlled?) multiple alerts shrink the icons to a 3x3 grid higher priority messages get more space.

==Input devices==

===No Dependence on Stylus===
The Neo's basic functionality should be completely usable without a stylus, Like the iPhone but with stylus use for precision work.

===A laser projection keyboard===
Similar to [http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ this], except the device would be integrated into the phone itself. Setting the Neo up on a stand on a flat surface (perhaps a stand could be built into the back of the Neo itself, or into a case) would turn the Neo into a micro-laptop. There may be several issues with the inclusion of this technology, including patents, the space required to project the laser grids, and the power consumption. If possible, however, it would make text input a breeze.

===Just a few more Buttons===

2 buttons more, 3 buttons total, mounted sideways would be enough. You could use them for play/pause and loudness controll while the phone remains in your pocket (display locked, ...), reading mails, rss, ebooks,... without wasting display space and so on.

With 5 buttons in total you could possibly emulate a keyboard (2^5 = 32 combinations) for those who know how to play a flute. Useable onehanded, not wasting display space and faster than t9. (It's not faster than T9 - I've used this system with the microwriter agenda --[[User:Speedevil|Speedevil]] 00:00, 2 July 2007 (CEST)) Hopefully this is not patented already.

===D-Pad and Buttons===
*Adding a D-pad (to the bottom of the phone) and 2 to 4 buttons (to the top) would provide some tactile input controls, in addition to the touchscreen. They could be used as shortcut keys in the menu, or playback control when playing media. When the phone is held sideways, they can be used as games controls. (With touchscreen alone, gameplay options are limited)

Game buttons would be best on both sides of the screen. The larger the buttons, the better. 2x 4 buttons in up-down-left-right configuration + some extra buttons separately a bit lower on the device would be good for many for emulation games.

Here is a concept drawing of a possible neo1973 gaming version:
(This has a 4-way direction pad, 8 way may be better for gaming)
 
[[Image:Neogame90.jpg]]
 
Shoulder buttons would be a great addition, too. It would be interesting if there was a total 4 of them, one for every corner. It would make the phone very flexible for rotating and 2 to 6 players playing on one device.
 

===Thumb keyboard or keyboard attachment accessory===
*Could be slide out or clamshell (hinge on long side) design with an external OLED. The keyboard should be protected when not in use.
*Could be a clip on keyboard that attaches to the serial port or communicates by bluetooth (not preferred for permanent keyboard users).
*Cheap clippable miniusb keyboard
*One of the layouts proposed in [[Hardware:Keyboards]]
* What about virtual keyboard? [[http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,539778,00.asp Keyboard]]

===Analogue Controllers===

====Trackball====
A trackball would provide an efficient mouse-like interface in a very compact package. As exemplified in the newer Blackberry® models.
Maybe instead an optical sensor as are used in mice could be used so that the whole phone can be moved over a surface just like a mouse. (It could function as a Bluetooth mouse for other devices like laptop computers: see [[Bluetooth_Support#Acting_as_HID_device]]. Adding one other two-axis analogue input (possibly just the screen) would make the Neo usable as a TrackPoint or scroll-and-tilt mouse.) The same sensor might be usable as a barcode reader.

====Analog Joystick====
A joystick, or [http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1772689,00.asp Rollermouse]-like device would provide additional control, compared with touchscreen only.
*A standard [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick pointing stick (ie. TrackPoint)] might serve well. As a fairly standard part, might they be quite inexpensive?

====Dual analogues====
Dual analogue controllers (one trackball or joystick above, one below the screen, most likely) might even be feasible. That might be overkill since the accelerometers or touchscreen can be used to provide a second analogue input. But it would be nice to have four axes of analogue control without having to tilt the screen away from you or partly cover it with your hand.

===TV/radio receiver===
[[Digital Television]], [[Digital Radio]] or even normal analogue TV/radio is available widely in the world. Though unfortunately in various different forms. In markets where one standard is widespread, and hardware is suitable, it would be a great extension of the phone to a general entertainment device for when you're away from home. Multi standard devices would be ideal, but may not be small, low-power, or cheap.

===Accelerometer===
This enables the phone to sense which direction 'down' is, and to sense any movements the phone makes.

See [[Accelerometer Fundamentals]] for more information on accelerometers as they may be used in phones.

In some cases integrated gyroscopes may also be needed. A [[#Digital compass]] can even be of more use since it gives absolute rotation so slow rotations could also be measured. A 3D compass would be nicest, but a simple 2D compass already is a helpful addition to the accelerometers.

*[[Wishlist:3D Viewport|3D Viewport]]
*[[Wishlist:Computer Mouse|Computer Mouse]]
*[[Wishlist:Determine Position|Determine Position]]
*[[Wishlist:Dynamic Screen Orientation|Dynamic Screen Orientation]]
*Change media player playlist when jogging vs walking.
*Attempt to use to stabilise any future camera.

This feature is scheduled for inclusion in the phase 2 Neo1973, currently slated for release in October 2007.

===Side-Mounted Touch Strip===
Add a "touch strip" sensor onto the side of the phone which can be used to scroll. By having it on the side you can use your thumb to scroll comfortably while holding the phone one-handed. An 8-element capacitive sensor would work wonderfully and be easy to fab using either a Quantum QT411 (http://www.qprox.com/products/qslide_qt411.php) or Analog Devices AD7143 (http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,2877,AD7143,00.html) controller. The Analog Devices chip seems better suited due to it's smaller allowable element size.
*With the AD7143 you can have an 8-element (128-position) 25mm long strip - Perfect!.
*With a few OLED screens beneath the strip it could be used as dynamic configurable buttons/alerts eg. zoom/flash/shutter with a camera application and SMS/Email/Voicemail alerts in standby

===Heart Rate Compatibility===

An RF interface to receive data from popular heart rate straps (Polar, Garmin, Sigma, Suunto, etc.). This would go along well with the existing GPS functionality and possible future Accelerometer functionality to make for a full-blown workout tool.

Software can be written to track heart rate along a running, cycling, skiing, swimming loop, to monitor max and min heart rate, to match heart rate data to GPS coordinates and print map data w/ relevant data.

===Digital compass===
A digital compass is useful for orienting maps to the terrain and other location/direction/orientation based applications (... is 300 meter that way) when the user is standing still (regardless of GPS reception) and for following a bearing when GPS reception is poor or speed is low. Also could be used to make the accelerometer data more exact.

Very small [[I2C]] sensors like [http://www.ssec.honeywell.com/magnetic/hmc6352.html Honeywell's HMC6352 2-Axis Digital Integrated Compass] (6.5 x 6.5 x 1.5 mm) are very appropriate for this.

*[[Wishlist:Auto Align Map]]

See [[Wishlist - Hardware: Digital compass]] for more information

===Thermometer===
An electronic thermometer might become handy for some users.

There are very small [[I2C]] devices available, that could easily integrate to the existing bus. For example [http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tmp100.html this one from ti].
(Could just be cheap and use the thermometer from the battery, thats how they did it in the nokia 5140's). Also is integrated in a barometer/altimeter like the SMD500 mentioned in [[Wish List - Hardware - Atmospheric]].

===Barometer and Variometer===

A Barometer measures air pressure. This can be used to give weather information, and also as a variometer, to sense relative altitude. Variometers are commonly used in flying microlight and ultralight aircraft, to get accurate relative altitude.

See [[Wish List - Hardware - Atmospheric]] for more information.

===Finger print sensor===
A fingerprint sensor gives easy and fast access to the phone, could lock the touchscreen etc. An example of this device can be found at [http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start?CategoryName=cpu_VAIONotebookComputers_UX_Series&Dept=computers Sony UX17].

Most fingerprint sensors in the embedded market include a navigation mode, where they work similar to either a touch-stick or touch-pad of a laptop.

===Barcode Scanner===
*less cpu intensive and more reliable than camera+ocr
*though, bluetooth-enabled readers are already available.

===Light Sensor===
Ability to sense ambient light, and act accordingly. i.e if it's 3am and LightValue<.1 then Ring Quietly.

===Wheel===
A navigation wheel like on a sony/ericsson 810i would be nice.

===Proximity Sensor===
Switch off backlight when you place the phone to your ear. Prevent accidental activation of speakerphone or other sounds when the phone is near the ear (prevent hearing damage). Possibly switch the speakerphone on or off automatically depending on if the phone is by your head or not.

=== Make ''all'' unlocking of phone, password protected===

When my (current non-neophone) phone is in my pocket and I have it locked, it sometimes accidentally unlocks itself since only two keystrokes in the correct order are necessary to unlock it. When it's unlocked and still in my pocket it sometimes calls someone without my knowledge. All phones I've seen today have a press-just-one-button bypass to answer an incoming call even when the phone is locked. I suggest making the locking mechanism let the user configure it so that the user has to enter a password even for answering incoming calls. The likeliness of the phone accidentally runbbing against my car keys, hitting a ten character long password, unlocking the phone without my knowledge and consent is low enough even for us most unlucky users.

==Expansion==
===Positioning of Buttons, Connections and ports===

Ideally any cable ports such as charging, USB, audio, docking should not get in the way of your hand or fingers when holding it in it's normal orientation. For the sake of SDIO cards an external SD slot should be on the top edge. IR for remote control software and ease of inter-device communication should be on the corner so that it is facing away from you for both orientations. Buttons obviously are positioned for finger control. An example of how '''not''' to do this would be the HTC Universal

===Storage===

====MMC/SD/SDIO slot (rather than?) miniSD or microSD====
*Cheaper, more durable cards in a widely accepted format.
*Much much larger storage capacity, [http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/2007/08/23/toshiba_unleash_1.html even 32GB]
*Cards are harder to lose
*Wider selection of accessories, including SDIO accessories.
*Make externally available so that larger length SDIO cards can be used (thinking about SDIO WLAN here)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC SDHC] compatible. It seems to already have the right hardware for it - see [[Neo1973_Hardware#microSD-Card]].

====Two SD slots====
*Micro SDHC for /home partition. Keep like current design underneath SIM card
*Hot swappable externally accessible normal size SDHC/SDIO slot

===Local Communication===

====USB====
* 5V Powered, to avoid having to carry around a hub for when you want to occasionally plug in a memory stick. Many powered hubs will not recognize a totally unpowered host. Provide a maximum current to drive a basic USB keyboard/memory stick/mouse/webcam/astrowebcam. This could be done by adding a small cheap power converter like the [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM2753.html LM2753]
* USB 2.0
* Standard type A socket for quick & easy insertion of memory sticks etc.
* OTG (is this maybe supported already ?)
* Bootable USB device emulation: the possibility to boot any computer on a bootable flagged partition of the transflash.
* Protection against incorrectly wired USB ports: some USB ports are wired incorrectly; if the +5V and GND are swapped, the device would get -5V when it's expecting +5V, which could burn some chips. A reverse-biased diode between +5V and GND, D+ and GND, D- and GND, and (if used) ID and GND, with a low enough forward voltage drop (to limite the negative voltages to what the chips can withstand), would protect the device by tripping the port's short circuit protection.

====Wireless USB support====
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_USB Wireless USB] is the wireless version of USB offering data-rates up to 480 Mbit/s over short distances (<3 meter). Chipsets suitable for a phone are likely to take some time to be available.

====SIR/FIR transceiver (Serial Infrared) / IR remote control====
*An infrared transceiver is cheap, small, and useful for sync with many laptops and mobile phones.
*Replace/emulate all IR-based remote controls used for your tv, vcr, etc on your neo cell phone.
** replaces multiple 'dumb' devices with a single intelligent device (your neo) that you will probably carry with you at all times anyway.
**Command sets should be retrieved from a database or learned from other less intelligent remote control devices with macros.
**reduces clutter, particularly in the living room.
**inceases the neo's practical status as an 'always-have' device.

Other uses.
*Detecting reflections from inside of a caddy, and switching from active mode.
*FIR would be a nice option, as it's some 40 times faster than SIR.

===Other===

====Video Out====
*Through a docking port
**S-Video/Composite Out
**DVI Out

==Output devices==

===LED===
*The Neo1973 GTA02 will have LEDs of some sort behind at least one button. [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/008458.html]
*A blinking LED would be a cheap, low power way to inform the user of new SMS/Email....
**An alternative to this would be for one small part of the LCD to be separately backlit.
**This requires the CPU and LCD to be somewhat active, to keep the LCD refreshed, but gives much more information.
**A Small OLED Screen could be used and display much more information than a LED with minimal power usage.

*For example a multicolor LED which pulses yellow for GSM/GPRS transmit, blue for Bluetooth/Wifi, green to indicate non-urgent information - missed call etc, red to indicate battery low or other urgent notices.

**The LED and button ideas could be combined: illuminated buttons.
**It must be possible to completely disable the LED to save power or other personal preferences.

=== Flashlight ===
For finding keys, or any other application. May also optionally pulse in time with ring, to make phone more visible.
This is really well done in Nokia 5500.

=== FM transmitter ===
Small FM transmitter to output to car, and other nearby radios.

===HAC Compliance===
[http://quux.wiki.zoho.com/WhereAreHACphones.html Here] is some summary/discussion of how hearing aid compliance rules work in the US. Specifically it would be nice to see the phone include a [http://www.hearingresearch.org/Dr.Ross/telecoil_and_telephones.htm telecoil], which allows the phone to connect wirelessly to many standard hearing aids.

==Mobile Communication options==

===Generic Access Network / Unlicensed Mobile Access===
This technology requires cooperation from the cellular provider, but [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlicensed_Mobile_Access UMA/GAN] is already offered by T-Mobile in the United States, and perhaps others in other countries. Allowing the user to roam from GSM to wifi, this technology can save the end user a significant amount of money, and also allow the user to deploy coverage where there was none before. There are only a few UMA capable phones currently, but it would be great if this could be made to work on a phase 2 type OpenMoko device.

Note that this features requires a more advanced access to the GSM modem. Special messages needs to be exchanged with the network.

===Faster/better mobile connectivity.===
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gsm GSM]/[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPRS GPRS] is at best slow. An incremental improvement would be a radio with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDGE EDGE ] support. EDGE is an evolved GSM standard and, like GPRS, it operates on the same frequency as voice. This means a quad-band EDGE radio will have near-complete worldwide coverage.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS UMTS] - which is widespread in Europe and being deployed in the US, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA HSDPA] (asia) and any other mobile standards would be nice for faster data connectivity and coverage.
It is unlikely that all of these will be supported initially, but it is a goal. These faster standards operate in different frequencies from GSM/GPRS/EDGE. Which frequency exactly will depend on the carrier and country. For UMTS in the US, AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz but T-Mobile will use 2100/1700 MHz for example.

Until that goal is reached, it is likely that some phones will be brought out for various specific markets - Europe, Asia, US.

===Ability to use multiple SIMs/networks===
* External SIM sockets are widely available in China, a dual external socket would be a very good solution.
* [http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/dualsim/digital.htm Dual SIM card kit] - two SIMs are trimmed and combined, software supportwould be needed, and both can't be used at once...
* Some networks support multiple numbers on one SIM. Unfortunately this won't allow split networks.
* A second/dual GSM module would allow full use of both sims at all times.
* As a hack, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#Bluetooth_powered_Multi-SIM_support use another mobile via BT].
** As many as three SIM slots would be genuinely useful, especially for a 3G phone - some 3G data tariffs are only available on data-only SIMs. A user could quite reasonably have one SIM for data, once SIM for his personal voice calls, and a third SIM for his business number.

===PMR446/FRS Radio===
* Include a PMR/FRS Radio.
* A two-way walkie talkie lets you use the phone to communicate with friends without requiring a GSM connection (crowded networks at festivals, at locations with no GSM coverage).

===DECT/GAP===
* Include a DECT/GAP transceiver so you can use your home and/or office PSTN line
** Ability to use Alcatel phonebook stuff (like provided by the eventphone.de phone equipment) would be very nice too

==Casing==
See also: [[Alternate Neo1973 case designs]] for a list of cases being considered for design/manufacture by the community.

===[[Expansion Back]]===
* Replacement backs with additional features ranging from solar power, larger batteries, extra hardware, ...

===Space efficient Lanyard===
The hole at the bottom of the phone takes a lot of space. A [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Security_Slot Kensington Security Slot] could be used instead.

=== Ruggedized version ===
We need something you can drop from 4 feet in to a puddle of dirty water on construction site. Sunlight readable display. The big ugly pseudo military version.

=== Transparent ===
Make a transparent, see-through casing. Why do we need a closed casing for open hardware and open software? Show the world it is a truly Free/Open source phone.

===[[Wishlist:Expansion Front|Expansion Front]]===
Replacement fronts with e.g. extra buttons.

==Misc==
===Galileo/GLONASS/GPS receiver===
*A multi-standard satellite positioning module would be nice eventually, it does not seem to be near-term due to chipset availability problems. Galileo is the to be launched (2011) European positioning system. GLONASS is the already existing Russian one.

===X10 RF Remote===
Many PC-based media centers are being equipped with an RF (433 MHz) / X10-based remote control. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_(industry_standard) X10] protocol also facilitates home automation to control lamps, switches, etc.
The advantages of using RF for control instead of Infra-red this that it also works when furniture, walls, or doors are blocking the path between RF remote and the equipment or device. [http://www.lirc.org/ Lirc] supports X10-based RF remotes (but expects having an USB RF receiver attached to the media center).

===RFID tag/RFID Reader===
* Implementation/Cooperation with: [http://www.rfidguardian.org/ RFID-Guardian]
*An enable-able tag would be of use - for example being able to use the phone to open doors, or cars. Unfortunately, it's moderately hard to do secure programmable tags that are compatible with existing systems, for obvious reasons.
* Say you have RFID tags on your personal belongings: cellphone, keys... Neo could be programmed to remember the last recorded GPS location before it lost contact with the respective RFIDs. It'd be trivial to check where you left your cellphone, get directions from a map...or beep when the phone gets out of RFID range.

===Less weight===
* Work on the weight of the Neo1973 and following devices. At the present time the Neo1973 is just a moderate / normal business or multimedia phone. The ordinary "user" may want something lighter. Take a look at the following table, that's the Neo1973 compared with other common bussiness or multimedia phones.
{|border="1"
| Neo1973 || Fujitsu-Siemens LOOX N560 || E-Ten Glofiish X500+ || Sony Ericsson P990i || iPhone || Nokia E65
|-
| 184 g || 160 g || 146 g || 150 g || 135 g || 115 g |-
|}

===Make it smaller===
* To stay within physical matters: Maybe the Neo1973 is also just a normal business/multimedia phone when looking at the size. It would be great the shrink it a bit. Especially the thickness of 18.5 mm could be worked on!

===Standard 3.5mm headphone jack===
The Neo1973 uses a 4-conductor 2.5mm jack for stereo headphones and a microphone. A 2.5mm jack is the most common for headsets.

There is an emerging convention used in the Nokia N800 and some other devices. A 4-conductor 3.5mm jack that can use a microphone with special headsets, but can also be used with off-the-shelf 3.5mm stereo headphones. Adapters to 2.5mm are of course available and this 3.5mm jack is much more robust.

Neglecting space limitations, multiple sockets - 2.5mm and 3.5mm would be nice. Probably not practical in a phone. Other expanded plugs might allow remote controls.

Other uses might be better met using bluetooth, or USB audio.

===Laser Pointer===
Include a built in laser pointer. Everything is better with lasers.

===Completely free hardware===
Consider selling one device with absolutely no non-free components in it, even if that means dropping the GSM support. I believe having one such device available would be good, because then it could be recommended by organizations like the FSF which typically never recommends anything if it has even a little non-free code in it.

=== Consider economy / inexpensive / less featured edition ===
Some people want less features, because they do not need them. Leaving out some features either lets the phone get smaller or possibly enhances battery live.

One big suggestion in this area is a b/w lower res display instead of the big color display.

=== Inductive Charger ===

It would be nice if it was possible to charge the phone without having to connect a cable. I'd like to have a simple docking station with an inductive charger like the type that's used for electric toothbrushes [http://home.howstuffworks.com/question292.htm ]. The charger itself could get its power from a standard wall-wart power supply, or it could be USB/Firewire powered.

==Related Hardware==
See [[Related Hardware]]

[[Category:Hardware ideas| ]]
[[Category:User]]

Wish List - Hardware

2007-09-14T12:18:56Z

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This page details hardware features which some would like to go into future phones similar to the [[Neo1973]].

Related pages are:
*[[Wishlist - Hardware - Novel Devices]] - openmoko will run on a large number of devices in the future, some of which may be DVD players, cameras, or convergance devices.
*[[Wishlist:Unlikely]] - Hardware that is unlikely to appear in any OpenMoko device, due to it being impossible to fabricate with near-term technology, or for other reasons.
*[[Wishlist:Accessories]] - Accessories that people would like, that connect easily to the phone - initially primarily for the Neo1973
*[[Wishlist:Expansion]] - add-ons to the phone, maybe involving hardware changes, and software and hardware protocols to implement these.

This page is rather long. Before adding a new idea, please read through this page and the above pages, to make sure your idea has not been suggested before.

==Processor==
===AT91CAP9S500A (ARM9 + FPGA-port)===
Why FPGA?:
*[http://hardware.silicon.com/servers/0,39024647,39166443,00.htm?r=1 20 March 2007 Green supercomputer is 'go' in Scotland] Quote: "...A supercomputer 10 times more energy efficient and up to 300 times faster than its traditional equivalents..."

Take a look at this microcontroller, that integrates an ARM9 microcontroller and a dedicated FPGA port: AT91CAP9S500A. It has "only" a max. clock at 200MHz, but can use a FPGA for hardware acceleration, that could be used for video (de)compression, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AacPlus_v2 aacPlus v2]/[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HE-AAC_v2 HE-AAC v2] sound (de)compression and many other things. HE-AAC v2 is better than [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3 MP3].
*[http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/product_card.asp?family_id=689&family_name=AT91CAP+Microcontrollers&part_id=4137 AT91CAP9S500A] Quote: "...The AT91CAP9S500A is built around a 12-layer bus matrix, allowing a maximum internal bandwidth of twelve 32-bit buses. Its distributed DMA architecture enables multiple data transfers to take place between the processor, memories and peripherals with minimal processor overhead...".
*[http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc6310.pdf GNU-Based Software Development on AT91SAM Microcontrollers]
*Maybe this is a good tool?: [http://www.jhdl.org/ BYU JHDL, Open Source FPGA CAD Tools]
*[http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=197002705 02/05/2007, FPGA tool bottleneck stalls HPC] Quote: "...Current FPGA synthesis, placement and routing tools are written for hardware designers, not software programmers simply trying to accelerate an algorithm..."

This seems to be a good hardware mix (ARM+FPGA). It does [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theora Ogg Theora] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MJPEG MJPEG] in the FPGA with 1 million gates:
*http://sourceforge.net/projects/elphel, [http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=10353 board 10353], [http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=Camera_hardware camera hardware], [http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Main page], [http://www.elphel.com/articles/index.html Imaging solutions with Free software and open hardware]

Just another FPGA+microcontroller example:
*[http://melzer.ch/html/body_alya.html The Alya Project] ([http://home.nikocity.de/andymon/hfg/Alya/alya.html old page])
*[http://melzer.ch/ALYA.ASM PIC assembler source code], [http://melzer.ch/ALYA.TDF Altera FPGA code]. Schematic: [http://melzer.ch/Schaltplan1.gif], [http://melzer.ch/Schaltplan2.gif], [http://melzer.ch/Schaltplan3.gif]

===Samsung S3C2443===
*[http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=229&partnum=S3C2443&&ppmi=1427 Samsung S3C2443] Up to 533 MHz, USB 2.0

==Possible FPGA==
This FPGA is just an example:
*[http://www.xilinx.com/products/silicon_solutions/fpgas/spartan_series/spartan3an_fpgas/capabilities/index.htm Spartan-3AN FPGA Capabilities] Quote: "...Simple and secure embedded application storage with up to 11Mb of integrated user Flash...Enable simple arithmetic and math functions as well as advanced DSP functions to derive over 330 Giga MACs/sec...Up to 32 18 x 18 embedded multipliers support 18-bit signed or 17-bit unsigned multiplication, and can be cascaded to support wider bits..."
**XC3S1400AN-4FGG676CES $91
**XC3S200AN-4FTG256CES $25.87

====Tool for FPGAs====
*[http://www.xilinx.com/ise/logic_design_prod/webpack.htm xilinx.com: ISE WebPACK is the industry´s only FREE, fully featured front-to-back FPGA design solution for Linux, Windows XP, and Windows Vista]

===Asynchronous FPGA, AFPGA===
*[http://www.achronix.com/products.html Achronix-ULTRA]
**[http://www.pldesignline.com/news/186700955 Achronix preps 2-GHz Asynchronous FPGA for sampling in 2007]
**[http://vlsi.cornell.edu/fpga.php Asynchronous VLSI and Architecture, Cornell University: Asynchronous Field-Programmable Gate Arrays (AFPGAs)] Quote: "...integrated pipelining support..."
**[http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/teifel03programmable.html Programmable Asynchronous Pipeline Arrays (2003) John Teifel, Rajit Manohar]

==Internal Memory==
===RAM===
128MB Dedicated for open files, running software etc., not for storage, or 256MB at all would be really nice and enough for any future software.

===ROM===
Enough to Hold O/S and a fair number of applications and their settings. Persistent Storage with XIP capability. About 128 MB.

===Storage===
An internal Micro SDHC should be used for users' files and additional software

==Wireless data networking==

===WiMAX support===
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimax WiMAX] is a high-speed data service, similar to wifi, though longer range and newer. Where service is available, this would complement WiFi. Unfortunately, unlike wifi, frequencies vary worldwide, so global usage may be complex.

===Emerging Protocols===
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Field_Communication Near Field Communication] has a few centimeter range, useable for keys, ID badges, pairing bluetooth devices and similar uses. Mentioned in newer bluetooth and SD standards. (No products.)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZigBee ZigBee] is designed for connecting sensors and switches in buildings, with many options including mesh networks and aggressive power saving compared to bluetooth. (Almost no products available.)
*The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANT_%28network%29 ANT network] is for connecting worn devices. Similar to ZigBee, but much simpler and maybe lower power. ([http://www.thisisant.com/?section=9 Short list] of products.)

==Camera==

* A camera that can take reasonable quality video and pictures is something many want. Applications vary from simple snapping, to gesture interfaces, video conferencing, barcode reading, buisness card reading, healthcare, servicing, and more.

* Some people can't take cameras into work - a model without the camera, or some way of removing the camera would be useful or leave the camera chip in place and have a removable lens assembly and replacement backcover.

* See [[Wishlist:Camera]] for a more detailed wishlist.

==Display==
===Multitouch screen===

''Main article: [[Wishlist:Spell_weaving|Spell weaving]]''

See also [http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/27/the-multi-touch-screen/ this page] containing a link to a video demonstration.

A history of multitouch implementations is [http://billbuxton.com/multitouchOverview.html here] ([http://google.com/search?q=cache:billbuxton.com/multitouchOverview.html google cache version])

*Use examples: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcKqyn-gUbY&mode=related&search= Multi-touch interface (from Adobe TED)], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ftJhDBZqss&mode=related&search= Multi Touch (new touchscreen technology)]

===Bigger and better screen===
2.8" widescreen (like in [http://etencorp.com E-ten] PDA/smartphones), or 3.5" widescreen (like in [http://www.expansys.ie/d.aspx?i=134944 Fujitsu Siemens LOOX N560]).

262k or 16.7M colurs for displaying images and especially videos.

OLED for better contrast, more rich colours, and less energy consumption.

Maybe the [http://www.sharpsme.com/Page.aspx/europe/en/part/LS037V7DW01/ LS037V7DW01] by Sharp could be a solution. It has nearly the same specs as the currently used, but 3,7" -- [[User:Wedge | Wedge]]

===Distance sensing touchscreen===
{{Main|Hardware:NearlyTouchScreen}}
TouchKo's (now Wacom Company Ltd.) spatial capacitive "touchscreen", can sense fingers at a small distance, so you do not get your display greasy, and can unlike some touchscreens, be operated with gloves.

===<s>Video acceleration</s>===
Hardware acceleration for video playback and 2D/3D accelleration will be present in [[Neo1973 GTA02]].

===EPD===
Or electronic paper display, EPD is used in many new devices such as the new Motorola motofone, sonys new e-reader and Irex's iliad. The technology provides thin, lightweight, power saving screens using new eink technology. This technology could cut the weight of the phone and its power usage. For more info see: [http://www.eink.com eink's website].

Pro: laserprinter like quality, glossy, very stable image, easy on the eyes. Electronics are similar to TFT. Very low power consumption.

Con: Black and grey only (like a newspaper, but glossy), although there were already color prototypes in 2005. low framerate (5fps). Can reflect light (like paper), backlight is impossible.

===Transreflective===
It would be nice to have (the option of) a transreflective display, which while being less bright, is readable without needing to power the backlight. Then again, it depends on how much power the backlight uses compared to everything else...

==="Slightly" Larger Screen===
43mm x 57mm (2.8inch diagonal) is tiny. A 53mm x 71mm (3.5 inch diagonal) like on the TD035STEE1 would be a nice improvement. A widescreen format at about 53mm x 82.5mm instead of the 3:4 aspect ratio would be even cooler (if one could be found).

===Second Display===
A 32x32 OLED display possibly on the back for camera framing or on an edge so it can be viewed like a pager.
This could be used to display any number of alerts (from any installed software) the alerts could have a dynamic prioritisation which means during the work day a message from the boss has high priority but lower at home (could be GPS/Time controlled?) multiple alerts shrink the icons to a 3x3 grid higher priority messages get more space.

==Input devices==

===No Dependence on Stylus===
The Neo's basic functionality should be completely usable without a stylus, Like the iPhone but with stylus use for precision work.

===A laser projection keyboard===
Similar to [http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ this], except the device would be integrated into the phone itself. Setting the Neo up on a stand on a flat surface (perhaps a stand could be built into the back of the Neo itself, or into a case) would turn the Neo into a micro-laptop. There may be several issues with the inclusion of this technology, including patents, the space required to project the laser grids, and the power consumption. If possible, however, it would make text input a breeze.

===Just a few more Buttons===

2 buttons more, 3 buttons total, mounted sideways would be enough. You could use them for play/pause and loudness controll while the phone remains in your pocket (display locked, ...), reading mails, rss, ebooks,... without wasting display space and so on.

With 5 buttons in total you could possibly emulate a keyboard (2^5 = 32 combinations) for those who know how to play a flute. Useable onehanded, not wasting display space and faster than t9. (It's not faster than T9 - I've used this system with the microwriter agenda --[[User:Speedevil|Speedevil]] 00:00, 2 July 2007 (CEST)) Hopefully this is not patented already.

===D-Pad and Buttons===
*Adding a D-pad (to the bottom of the phone) and 2 to 4 buttons (to the top) would provide some tactile input controls, in addition to the touchscreen. They could be used as shortcut keys in the menu, or playback control when playing media. When the phone is held sideways, they can be used as games controls. (With touchscreen alone, gameplay options are limited)

Game buttons would be best on both sides of the screen. The larger the buttons, the better. 2x 4 buttons in up-down-left-right configuration + some extra buttons separately a bit lower on the device would be good for many for emulation games.

Here is a concept drawing of a possible neo1973 gaming version:
(This has a 4-way direction pad, 8 way may be better for gaming)
 
[[Image:Neogame90.jpg]]
 
Shoulder buttons would be a great addition, too. It would be interesting if there was a total 4 of them, one for every corner. It would make the phone very flexible for rotating and 2 to 6 players playing on one device.
 

===Thumb keyboard or keyboard attachment accessory===
*Could be slide out or clamshell (hinge on long side) design with an external OLED. The keyboard should be protected when not in use.
*Could be a clip on keyboard that attaches to the serial port or communicates by bluetooth (not preferred for permanent keyboard users).
*Cheap clippable miniusb keyboard
*One of the layouts proposed in [[Hardware:Keyboards]]
* What about virtual keyboard? [[http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,539778,00.asp Keyboard]]

===Analogue Controllers===

====Trackball====
A trackball would provide an efficient mouse-like interface in a very compact package. As exemplified in the newer Blackberry® models.
Maybe instead an optical sensor as are used in mice could be used so that the whole phone can be moved over a surface just like a mouse. (It could function as a Bluetooth mouse for other devices like laptop computers: see [[Bluetooth_Support#Acting_as_HID_device]]. Adding one other two-axis analogue input (possibly just the screen) would make the Neo usable as a TrackPoint or scroll-and-tilt mouse.) The same sensor might be usable as a barcode reader.

====Analog Joystick====
A joystick, or [http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1772689,00.asp Rollermouse]-like device would provide additional control, compared with touchscreen only.
*A standard [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick pointing stick (ie. TrackPoint)] might serve well. As a fairly standard part, might they be quite inexpensive?

====Dual analogues====
Dual analogue controllers (one trackball or joystick above, one below the screen, most likely) might even be feasible. That might be overkill since the accelerometers or touchscreen can be used to provide a second analogue input. But it would be nice to have four axes of analogue control without having to tilt the screen away from you or partly cover it with your hand.

===TV/radio receiver===
[[Digital Television]], [[Digital Radio]] or even normal analogue TV/radio is available widely in the world. Though unfortunately in various different forms. In markets where one standard is widespread, and hardware is suitable, it would be a great extension of the phone to a general entertainment device for when you're away from home. Multi standard devices would be ideal, but may not be small, low-power, or cheap.

===Accelerometer===
This enables the phone to sense which direction 'down' is, and to sense any movements the phone makes.

See [[Accelerometer Fundamentals]] for more information on accelerometers as they may be used in phones.

In some cases integrated gyroscopes may also be needed. A [[#Digital compass]] can even be of more use since it gives absolute rotation so slow rotations could also be measured. A 3D compass would be nicest, but a simple 2D compass already is a helpful addition to the accelerometers.

*[[Wishlist:3D Viewport|3D Viewport]]
*[[Wishlist:Computer Mouse|Computer Mouse]]
*[[Wishlist:Determine Position|Determine Position]]
*[[Wishlist:Dynamic Screen Orientation|Dynamic Screen Orientation]]
*Change media player playlist when jogging vs walking.
*Attempt to use to stabilise any future camera.

This feature is scheduled for inclusion in the phase 2 Neo1973, currently slated for release in October 2007.

===Side-Mounted Touch Strip===
Add a "touch strip" sensor onto the side of the phone which can be used to scroll. By having it on the side you can use your thumb to scroll comfortably while holding the phone one-handed. An 8-element capacitive sensor would work wonderfully and be easy to fab using either a Quantum QT411 (http://www.qprox.com/products/qslide_qt411.php) or Analog Devices AD7143 (http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,2877,AD7143,00.html) controller. The Analog Devices chip seems better suited due to it's smaller allowable element size.
*With the AD7143 you can have an 8-element (128-position) 25mm long strip - Perfect!.
*With a few OLED screens beneath the strip it could be used as dynamic configurable buttons/alerts eg. zoom/flash/shutter with a camera application and SMS/Email/Voicemail alerts in standby

===Heart Rate Compatibility===

An RF interface to receive data from popular heart rate straps (Polar, Garmin, Sigma, Suunto, etc.). This would go along well with the existing GPS functionality and possible future Accelerometer functionality to make for a full-blown workout tool.

Software can be written to track heart rate along a running, cycling, skiing, swimming loop, to monitor max and min heart rate, to match heart rate data to GPS coordinates and print map data w/ relevant data.

===Digital compass===
A digital compass is useful for orienting maps to the terrain and other location/direction/orientation based applications (... is 300 meter that way) when the user is standing still (regardless of GPS reception) and for following a bearing when GPS reception is poor or speed is low. Also could be used to make the accelerometer data more exact.

Very small [[I2C]] sensors like [http://www.ssec.honeywell.com/magnetic/hmc6352.html Honeywell's HMC6352 2-Axis Digital Integrated Compass] (6.5 x 6.5 x 1.5 mm) are very appropriate for this.

*[[Wishlist:Auto Align Map]]

See [[Wishlist - Hardware: Digital compass]] for more information

===Thermometer===
An electronic thermometer might become handy for some users.

There are very small [[I2C]] devices available, that could easily integrate to the existing bus. For example [http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tmp100.html this one from ti].
(Could just be cheap and use the thermometer from the battery, thats how they did it in the nokia 5140's). Also is integrated in a barometer/altimeter like the SMD500 mentioned in [[Wish List - Hardware - Atmospheric]].

===Barometer and Variometer===

A Barometer measures air pressure. This can be used to give weather information, and also as a variometer, to sense relative altitude. Variometers are commonly used in flying microlight and ultralight aircraft, to get accurate relative altitude.

See [[Wish List - Hardware - Atmospheric]] for more information.

===Finger print sensor===
A fingerprint sensor gives easy and fast access to the phone, could lock the touchscreen etc. An example of this device can be found at [http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start?CategoryName=cpu_VAIONotebookComputers_UX_Series&Dept=computers Sony UX17].

Most fingerprint sensors in the embedded market include a navigation mode, where they work similar to either a touch-stick or touch-pad of a laptop.

===Barcode Scanner===
*less cpu intensive and more reliable than camera+ocr
*though, bluetooth-enabled readers are already available.

===Light Sensor===
Ability to sense ambient light, and act accordingly. i.e if it's 3am and LightValue<.1 then Ring Quietly.

===Wheel===
A navigation wheel like on a sony/ericsson 810i would be nice.

===Proximity Sensor===
Switch off backlight when you place the phone to your ear. Prevent accidental activation of speakerphone or other sounds when the phone is near the ear (prevent hearing damage). Possibly switch the speakerphone on or off automatically depending on if the phone is by your head or not.

=== Make ''all'' unlocking of phone, password protected===

When my (current non-neophone) phone is in my pocket and I have it locked, it sometimes accidentally unlocks itself since only two keystrokes in the correct order are necessary to unlock it. When it's unlocked and still in my pocket it sometimes calls someone without my knowledge. All phones I've seen today have a press-just-one-button bypass to answer an incoming call even when the phone is locked. I suggest making the locking mechanism let the user configure it so that the user has to enter a password even for answering incoming calls. The likeliness of the phone accidentally runbbing against my car keys, hitting a ten character long password, unlocking the phone without my knowledge and consent is low enough even for us most unlucky users.

==Expansion==
===Positioning of Buttons, Connections and ports===

Ideally any cable ports such as charging, USB, audio, docking should not get in the way of your hand or fingers when holding it in it's normal orientation. For the sake of SDIO cards an external SD slot should be on the top edge. IR for remote control software and ease of inter-device communication should be on the corner so that it is facing away from you for both orientations. Buttons obviously are positioned for finger control. An example of how '''not''' to do this would be the HTC Universal

===Storage===

====MMC/SD/SDIO slot (rather than?) miniSD or microSD====
*Cheaper, more durable cards in a widely accepted format.
*Much much larger storage capacity, [http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/2007/08/23/toshiba_unleash_1.html even 32GB]
*Cards are harder to lose
*Wider selection of accessories, including SDIO accessories.
*Make externally available so that larger length SDIO cards can be used (thinking about SDIO WLAN here)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC SDHC] compatible. It seems to already have the right hardware for it - see [[Neo1973_Hardware#microSD-Card]].

====Two SD slots====
*Micro SDHC for /home partition. Keep like current design underneath SIM card
*Hot swappable externally accessible normal size SDHC/SDIO slot

===Local Communication===

====USB====
* 5V Powered, to avoid having to carry around a hub for when you want to occasionally plug in a memory stick. Many powered hubs will not recognize a totally unpowered host. Provide a maximum current to drive a basic USB keyboard/memory stick/mouse/webcam/astrowebcam. This could be done by adding a small cheap power converter like the [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM2753.html LM2753]
* USB 2.0
* Standard type A socket for quick & easy insertion of memory sticks etc.
* OTG (is this maybe supported already ?)
* Bootable USB device emulation: the possibility to boot any computer on a bootable flagged partition of the transflash.
* Protection against incorrectly wired USB ports: some USB ports are wired incorrectly; if the +5V and GND are swapped, the device would get -5V when it's expecting +5V, which could burn some chips. A reverse-biased diode between +5V and GND, D+ and GND, D- and GND, and (if used) ID and GND, with a low enough forward voltage drop (to limite the negative voltages to what the chips can withstand), would protect the device by tripping the port's short circuit protection.

====Wireless USB support====
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_USB Wireless USB] is the wireless version of USB offering data-rates up to 480 Mbit/s over short distances (<3 meter). Chipsets suitable for a phone are likely to take some time to be available.

====SIR/FIR transceiver (Serial Infrared) / IR remote control====
*An infrared transceiver is cheap, small, and useful for sync with many laptops and mobile phones.
*Replace/emulate all IR-based remote controls used for your tv, vcr, etc on your neo cell phone.
** replaces multiple 'dumb' devices with a single intelligent device (your neo) that you will probably carry with you at all times anyway.
**Command sets should be retrieved from a database or learned from other less intelligent remote control devices with macros.
**reduces clutter, particularly in the living room.
**inceases the neo's practical status as an 'always-have' device.

Other uses.
*Detecting reflections from inside of a caddy, and switching from active mode.
*FIR would be a nice option, as it's some 40 times faster than SIR.

===Other===

====Video Out====
*Through a docking port
**S-Video/Composite Out
**DVI Out

==Output devices==

===LED===
*The Neo1973 GTA02 will have LEDs of some sort behind at least one button. [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/008458.html]
*A blinking LED would be a cheap, low power way to inform the user of new SMS/Email....
**An alternative to this would be for one small part of the LCD to be separately backlit.
**This requires the CPU and LCD to be somewhat active, to keep the LCD refreshed, but gives much more information.
**A Small OLED Screen could be used and display much more information than a LED with minimal power usage.

*For example a multicolor LED which pulses yellow for GSM/GPRS transmit, blue for Bluetooth/Wifi, green to indicate non-urgent information - missed call etc, red to indicate battery low or other urgent notices.

**The LED and button ideas could be combined: illuminated buttons.
**It must be possible to completely disable the LED to save power or other personal preferences.

=== Flashlight ===
For finding keys, or any other application. May also optionally pulse in time with ring, to make phone more visible.
This is really well done in Nokia 5500.

=== FM transmitter ===
Small FM transmitter to output to car, and other nearby radios.

===HAC Compliance===
[http://quux.wiki.zoho.com/WhereAreHACphones.html Here] is some summary/discussion of how hearing aid compliance rules work in the US. Specifically it would be nice to see the phone include a [http://www.hearingresearch.org/Dr.Ross/telecoil_and_telephones.htm telecoil], which allows the phone to connect wirelessly to many standard hearing aids.

==Mobile Communication options==

===Generic Access Network / Unlicensed Mobile Access===
This technology requires cooperation from the cellular provider, but [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlicensed_Mobile_Access UMA/GAN] is already offered by T-Mobile in the United States, and perhaps others in other countries. Allowing the user to roam from GSM to wifi, this technology can save the end user a significant amount of money, and also allow the user to deploy coverage where there was none before. There are only a few UMA capable phones currently, but it would be great if this could be made to work on a phase 2 type OpenMoko device.

Note that this features requires a more advanced access to the GSM modem. Special messages needs to be exchanged with the network.

===Faster/better mobile connectivity.===
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gsm GSM]/[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPRS GPRS] is at best slow. An incremental improvement would be a radio with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDGE EDGE ] support. EDGE is an evolved GSM standard and, like GPRS, it operates on the same frequency as voice. This means a quad-band EDGE radio will have near-complete worldwide coverage.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS UMTS] - which is widespread in Europe and being deployed in the US, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA HSDPA] (asia) and any other mobile standards would be nice for faster data connectivity and coverage.
It is unlikely that all of these will be supported initially, but it is a goal. These faster standards operate in different frequencies from GSM/GPRS/EDGE. Which frequency exactly will depend on the carrier and country. For UMTS in the US, AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz but T-Mobile will use 2100/1700 MHz for example.

Until that goal is reached, it is likely that some phones will be brought out for various specific markets - Europe, Asia, US.

===Ability to use multiple SIMs/networks===
* External SIM sockets are widely available in China, a dual external socket would be a very good solution.
* [http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/dualsim/digital.htm Dual SIM card kit] - two SIMs are trimmed and combined, software supportwould be needed, and both can't be used at once...
* Some networks support multiple numbers on one SIM. Unfortunately this won't allow split networks.
* A second/dual GSM module would allow full use of both sims at all times.
* As a hack, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#Bluetooth_powered_Multi-SIM_support use another mobile via BT].
** As many as three SIM slots would be genuinely useful, especially for a 3G phone - some 3G data tariffs are only available on data-only SIMs. A user could quite reasonably have one SIM for data, once SIM for his personal voice calls, and a third SIM for his business number.

===PMR446/FRS Radio===
* Include a PMR/FRS Radio.
* A two-way walkie talkie lets you use the phone to communicate with friends without requiring a GSM connection (crowded networks at festivals, at locations with no GSM coverage).

===DECT/GAP===
* Include a DECT/GAP transceiver so you can use your home and/or office PSTN line
** Ability to use Alcatel phonebook stuff (like provided by the eventphone.de phone equipment) would be very nice too

==Casing==
See also: [[Alternate Neo1973 case designs]] for a list of cases being considered for design/manufacture by the community.

===[[Expansion Back]]===
* Replacement backs with additional features ranging from solar power, larger batteries, extra hardware, ...

===Space efficient Lanyard===
The hole at the bottom of the phone takes a lot of space. A [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Security_Slot Kensington Security Slot] could be used instead.

=== Ruggedized version ===
We need something you can drop from 4 feet in to a puddle of dirty water on construction site. Sunlight readable display. The big ugly pseudo military version.

=== Transparent ===
Make a transparent, see-through casing. Why do we need a closed casing for open hardware and open software? Show the world it is a truly Free/Open source phone.

===[[Wishlist:Expansion Front|Expansion Front]]===
Replacement fronts with e.g. extra buttons.

==Misc==
===Galileo/GLONASS/GPS receiver===
*A multi-standard satellite positioning module would be nice eventually, it does not seem to be near-term due to chipset availability problems. Galileo is the to be launched (2011) European positioning system. GLONASS is the already existing Russian one.

===X10 RF Remote===
Many PC-based media centers are being equipped with an RF (433 MHz) / X10-based remote control. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_(industry_standard) X10] protocol also facilitates home automation to control lamps, switches, etc.
The advantages of using RF for control instead of Infra-red this that it also works when furniture, walls, or doors are blocking the path between RF remote and the equipment or device. [http://www.lirc.org/ Lirc] supports X10-based RF remotes (but expects having an USB RF receiver attached to the media center).

===RFID tag/RFID Reader===
* Implementation/Cooperation with: [http://www.rfidguardian.org/ RFID-Guardian]
*An enable-able tag would be of use - for example being able to use the phone to open doors, or cars. Unfortunately, it's moderately hard to do secure programmable tags that are compatible with existing systems, for obvious reasons.
* Say you have RFID tags on your personal belongings: cellphone, keys... Neo could be programmed to remember the last recorded GPS location before it lost contact with the respective RFIDs. It'd be trivial to check where you left your cellphone, get directions from a map...or beep when the phone gets out of RFID range.

===Less weight===
* Work on the weight of the Neo1973 and following devices. At the present time the Neo1973 is just a moderate / normal business or multimedia phone. The ordinary "user" may want something lighter. Take a look at the following table, that's the Neo1973 compared with other common bussiness or multimedia phones.
{|border="1"
| Neo1973 || iPhone || Sony Ericsson P990i || Nokia E65 || Fujitsu-Siemens LOOX N560 || E-Ten Glofiish X500+
|-
| 184 g || 135 g || 150 g || 115 g || 160 g || 146 g
|-
|}
{|border="1"
| Neo1973 || Fujitsu-Siemens LOOX N560 || E-Ten Glofiish X500+ || Sony Ericsson P990i || iPhone || Nokia E65
|-
| 184 g || 160 g || 146 g || 150 g || 135 g || 115 g |-
|}

===Make it smaller===
* To stay within physical matters: Maybe the Neo1973 is also just a normal business/multimedia phone when looking at the size. It would be great the shrink it a bit. Especially the thickness of 18.5 mm could be worked on!

===Standard 3.5mm headphone jack===
The Neo1973 uses a 4-conductor 2.5mm jack for stereo headphones and a microphone. A 2.5mm jack is the most common for headsets.

There is an emerging convention used in the Nokia N800 and some other devices. A 4-conductor 3.5mm jack that can use a microphone with special headsets, but can also be used with off-the-shelf 3.5mm stereo headphones. Adapters to 2.5mm are of course available and this 3.5mm jack is much more robust.

Neglecting space limitations, multiple sockets - 2.5mm and 3.5mm would be nice. Probably not practical in a phone. Other expanded plugs might allow remote controls.

Other uses might be better met using bluetooth, or USB audio.

===Laser Pointer===
Include a built in laser pointer. Everything is better with lasers.

===Completely free hardware===
Consider selling one device with absolutely no non-free components in it, even if that means dropping the GSM support. I believe having one such device available would be good, because then it could be recommended by organizations like the FSF which typically never recommends anything if it has even a little non-free code in it.

=== Consider economy / inexpensive / less featured edition ===
Some people want less features, because they do not need them. Leaving out some features either lets the phone get smaller or possibly enhances battery live.

One big suggestion in this area is a b/w lower res display instead of the big color display.

=== Inductive Charger ===

It would be nice if it was possible to charge the phone without having to connect a cable. I'd like to have a simple docking station with an inductive charger like the type that's used for electric toothbrushes [http://home.howstuffworks.com/question292.htm ]. The charger itself could get its power from a standard wall-wart power supply, or it could be USB/Firewire powered.

==Related Hardware==
See [[Related Hardware]]

[[Category:Hardware ideas| ]]
[[Category:User]]

Talk:Wishlist/Text Input

2007-09-13T12:01:32Z

KlaymenDK:

Hexinput looks very interesting to me. --[[User:Cezz|Cezz]] 14:35, 10 March 2007 (CET)

I think Apples Rosetta (Apple Newton OCR) is old but still one of the best embedded OCR. patented?. [[User:Hede|hede]] 08:29, 29 June 2007 (CEST)

I think Dasher is a very good and fast input style, maybe the fastest I ever have seen and it is optimal, I think, for a mobile system like OpenMoko. I wish someone could port it to OpenMoko. There is a version for Windows and Max OSX too. [[User:blubbfisch|blubbfisch]]15:59, 29 June (GMT +1)

For me Finger Splash looks very good [[User:Krzysiekbielicki|Krzysiek Bielicki]]

Dvorak layout -- I took the liberty of adding this to the input list. I'm hoping this is a "relatively simple" thing to add, probably only a "skin" and a new key mapping. -- [[User:KlaymenDK|KlaymenDK]] 13 September 2007

Wishlist/Text Input

2007-09-13T11:33:46Z

KlaymenDK: /* New input methods */

Current version supports input using [[Input Method|on screen keyboard]].
You can also use Bluetooth keyboards and with (battery) powered USB hub can also use USB keyboards.

Near computer can also use networking over Bluetooth or USB and then ssh into device or run X11 programs remotely and thus use whatever input possibilities other computer supports.

For further predictive text input information see: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictive_text Predictive text wikipedia]

{{Wishlist}}

===== New input methods =====
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard Dvorak] layout -- basically a 'skin' for the existing on-screen keyboard with a different key mapping
* [http://patrickbaudisch.com/publications/2007-Vogel-CHI07-Shift.pdf Shift]
* [http://www.inf.ufsc.br/~guy/text_input.html Another text input]
* [http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ Dasher] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasher Wikipedia link]): A side-scrolling probabalistic text entry method that's well suited to stylus use. One disadvantage is that it makes little use of muscle memory so you need to pay close attention to the screen while entering text. An andvatage is that it is not limeted to english text, but can be used with any language/alphabet. A video presentation is also [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5078334075080674416 available]
* [http://www.micropp.se/openmoko/ Finger splash] (Idea presented on [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-March/003984.html OpenMoko community mailing list])
* [http://www.strout.net/info/ideas/hexinput.html HexInput]: A keyboard-style input method optimized for stylus use.
* [http://www.exideas.com/ME/faq.html MessagEaseST] ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFf9Mw3nlsY YouTube demo])
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code Morse Code]
* [http://mrl.nyu.edu/projects/quikwriting/ Quikwriting]
* [http://www.shapewriter.com/ Shape Writing]
* [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2007-May/000912.html Werner Almesberger's finger input suggestion] ([http://www.acc.umu.se/~cm/inw.pdf Draft layout as pdf] [http://www.almesberger.net/misc/openmoko/inwheel-1.tar.gz Prototype])
* [http://www.hellkvist.org/software/ XMerlin]
* [http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/23876/12433_newkey1.jpg Danzeff Keyboard] A Keyboard designed for PSP, using the analog-stick

===== Patented input methods =====
* [http://depts.washington.edu/ewrite/ EdgeWrite], a unistroke character/word input method (reminiscent of Palm's Graffiti)
* [http://www.fitaly.com/wince/pocketpcfitaly.htm Fitaly Keyboard]
* [http://images.overstock.com/f/102/3117/8h/www.overstock.com/images/products/L10480944.jpg Input method used by Garmin] (Maybe patented?)
* [http://www.speedscript.biz/ SpeedScript]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T9_%28predictive_text%29 T9] See http://www.tegic.com/about/patent-list.asp for legally addability for users in some countries.
* [http://www.tengo.net/ TenGO]
* [http://www.agiletext.com/ AgileText]

===== Text input method surveys =====

Here are some surveys / overviews of text entry methods that I turned up using Google:
* [http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~jhw/text.html Text entry] A web page with a survey of text entry methods by John Williamson
* Poika Isokoski, [http://www.cs.uta.fi/~poika/g/g.html A Minimal Device-Independent Text Input Method], has a chapter listing existing approaches ca. 1999
* Trevor's Trinkets, [http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html Five Finger Keyboards]

===== Other ways to enter text =====
* Once there is hardware with multi-touch screen support, [[Wishlist:Spell weaving|gesturing with 2-3 fingers]] might offer interesting possibilities.
* Use [[VoiceText|voice to dictate text]]
* Use [[Optical Character Recognition]] and [[Barcode Recognition]] on an image that exists on the file system or via a picture that has just been taken (even if it is a temporary picture only for this purpose).
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedwords Dutton Speedwords]
* I thought long and hard how to make a keyboard fit on the Neo's screen with keys big enough for fingertips. My idea was to split the keyboard in half similar to how a Natural keyboard does, and use the Aux button to switch between the current displayed half. I will prepare a sample when I have time.

===== Interesting hardware input devices =====
* [http://mobilitysite.com/2007/02/small-compact-bluetooth-keyboard/ Credit-card sized bluetooth keyboard] (Note: apparently supports only Bluetooth Serial Port Profile and not HID; supportable, of course, perhaps using existing user space daemon [http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/kbdd kbdd] Link Fixed)
* [http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ Bluetooth laser virtual keyboard] eventually could be built into the phone once more miniaturized.
* [http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/6c82/ Frogpad]
* [http://www.spartechnik.de/start.htm?d_Keyb_Mini_Mini_Bluetooth_Keyboard_im_Scheckkartenformat.htm Freedom Mini], apparently not manufactured anymore but still sold and works out of the box with Bluez' hidd. Has a spring-loaded hinge for squeezing a phone/PDA against the keyboard; seems like a Neo could attach nicely but don't have one to actually test. --[[User:Mjr|Mjr]] 10:30, 15 May 2007 (CEST)
* [http://www.3pointd.com/20070518/finger-mounted-3d-mouse-from-undergrads/ experimental ring-mouse]
* Livescribe's [http://www.livescribe.com/sneakpeek/index.html smartpen]; could act as touchscreen pen + laser + regular pen + "intelligent" pen + OCR device. See [http://www.pikesoft.com/blog/index.php?itemid=189 this] blog post.

[[Category:User Interfaces]]

Wishlist/Text Input

2007-09-13T11:33:01Z

KlaymenDK: /* New input methods */ - Added Dvorak sayout to list

Current version supports input using [[Input Method|on screen keyboard]].
You can also use Bluetooth keyboards and with (battery) powered USB hub can also use USB keyboards.

Near computer can also use networking over Bluetooth or USB and then ssh into device or run X11 programs remotely and thus use whatever input possibilities other computer supports.

For further predictive text input information see: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictive_text Predictive text wikipedia]

{{Wishlist}}

===== New input methods =====
* Dvorak layout -- basically a 'skin' for the existing on-screen keyboard with a different key mapping
* [http://patrickbaudisch.com/publications/2007-Vogel-CHI07-Shift.pdf Shift]
* [http://www.inf.ufsc.br/~guy/text_input.html Another text input]
* [http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ Dasher] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasher Wikipedia link]): A side-scrolling probabalistic text entry method that's well suited to stylus use. One disadvantage is that it makes little use of muscle memory so you need to pay close attention to the screen while entering text. An andvatage is that it is not limeted to english text, but can be used with any language/alphabet. A video presentation is also [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5078334075080674416 available]
* [http://www.micropp.se/openmoko/ Finger splash] (Idea presented on [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-March/003984.html OpenMoko community mailing list])
* [http://www.strout.net/info/ideas/hexinput.html HexInput]: A keyboard-style input method optimized for stylus use.
* [http://www.exideas.com/ME/faq.html MessagEaseST] ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFf9Mw3nlsY YouTube demo])
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code Morse Code]
* [http://mrl.nyu.edu/projects/quikwriting/ Quikwriting]
* [http://www.shapewriter.com/ Shape Writing]
* [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2007-May/000912.html Werner Almesberger's finger input suggestion] ([http://www.acc.umu.se/~cm/inw.pdf Draft layout as pdf] [http://www.almesberger.net/misc/openmoko/inwheel-1.tar.gz Prototype])
* [http://www.hellkvist.org/software/ XMerlin]
* [http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/23876/12433_newkey1.jpg Danzeff Keyboard] A Keyboard designed for PSP, using the analog-stick

===== Patented input methods =====
* [http://depts.washington.edu/ewrite/ EdgeWrite], a unistroke character/word input method (reminiscent of Palm's Graffiti)
* [http://www.fitaly.com/wince/pocketpcfitaly.htm Fitaly Keyboard]
* [http://images.overstock.com/f/102/3117/8h/www.overstock.com/images/products/L10480944.jpg Input method used by Garmin] (Maybe patented?)
* [http://www.speedscript.biz/ SpeedScript]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T9_%28predictive_text%29 T9] See http://www.tegic.com/about/patent-list.asp for legally addability for users in some countries.
* [http://www.tengo.net/ TenGO]
* [http://www.agiletext.com/ AgileText]

===== Text input method surveys =====

Here are some surveys / overviews of text entry methods that I turned up using Google:
* [http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~jhw/text.html Text entry] A web page with a survey of text entry methods by John Williamson
* Poika Isokoski, [http://www.cs.uta.fi/~poika/g/g.html A Minimal Device-Independent Text Input Method], has a chapter listing existing approaches ca. 1999
* Trevor's Trinkets, [http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html Five Finger Keyboards]

===== Other ways to enter text =====
* Once there is hardware with multi-touch screen support, [[Wishlist:Spell weaving|gesturing with 2-3 fingers]] might offer interesting possibilities.
* Use [[VoiceText|voice to dictate text]]
* Use [[Optical Character Recognition]] and [[Barcode Recognition]] on an image that exists on the file system or via a picture that has just been taken (even if it is a temporary picture only for this purpose).
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedwords Dutton Speedwords]
* I thought long and hard how to make a keyboard fit on the Neo's screen with keys big enough for fingertips. My idea was to split the keyboard in half similar to how a Natural keyboard does, and use the Aux button to switch between the current displayed half. I will prepare a sample when I have time.

===== Interesting hardware input devices =====
* [http://mobilitysite.com/2007/02/small-compact-bluetooth-keyboard/ Credit-card sized bluetooth keyboard] (Note: apparently supports only Bluetooth Serial Port Profile and not HID; supportable, of course, perhaps using existing user space daemon [http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/kbdd kbdd] Link Fixed)
* [http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ Bluetooth laser virtual keyboard] eventually could be built into the phone once more miniaturized.
* [http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/6c82/ Frogpad]
* [http://www.spartechnik.de/start.htm?d_Keyb_Mini_Mini_Bluetooth_Keyboard_im_Scheckkartenformat.htm Freedom Mini], apparently not manufactured anymore but still sold and works out of the box with Bluez' hidd. Has a spring-loaded hinge for squeezing a phone/PDA against the keyboard; seems like a Neo could attach nicely but don't have one to actually test. --[[User:Mjr|Mjr]] 10:30, 15 May 2007 (CEST)
* [http://www.3pointd.com/20070518/finger-mounted-3d-mouse-from-undergrads/ experimental ring-mouse]
* Livescribe's [http://www.livescribe.com/sneakpeek/index.html smartpen]; could act as touchscreen pen + laser + regular pen + "intelligent" pen + OCR device. See [http://www.pikesoft.com/blog/index.php?itemid=189 this] blog post.

[[Category:User Interfaces]]