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Openmoko Local Groups: North Texas

2007-07-14T22:20:05Z

Dmitri: i guess we can make an order together

Welcome to the North Texas openmoko page!

This group is for anyone in the DFW and surrounding areas. Hopefully we'll be able to organize an event for when a few of us get the neos. Local LUGs will probably be interested too, update here as it happens.

{|border=1
!Name
!Skills
!Level of Interest
!Location
!Other
|-
|Jae Stutzman
|C++, C# (mono)
|neo1973 SH1 on the way
|Greenville
|freedom is coming
|-
|Erik Hix
|C#, ninja
|curious
|Rockwall
|[http://www.lostfrog.org/ Who took my frog?]
|-
|Mark Arvidson
|C++, mad bo staff
|[[P1_Owners|neo1973 SH1 on order]]
|Richardson
|holding my breath
|-
|Michael Carter
|C#, C++
|Waiting for Phase 2
|Greenville
|Ready Tomorrow
|-
|Jeff Rush
|C++, Python
|neo1973 SH1 on the way
|Richardson
|Will be making tutorial screencasts
|-
|Edward Lineberry
|J2ME, C, rhyme
|neo1973 SH1 on the way
|Dallas
|Will be be watching tutorial screencasts
|-
|[[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]]
|Translation
|Waiting for Phase 2
|Dallas
|
|}

See [[Talk:OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_North_Texas|discussion]]

User talk:Speedevil

2007-04-18T04:01:43Z

Dmitri: main page early version

== main page early version ==

Hi, I tried to redo a front page [[Main Page test]] - if you like it - use it, otherwise just delete it [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 06:01, 18 April 2007 (CEST)

Talk:Main Page/ru

2007-03-07T04:50:54Z

Dmitri: don't make language mess in one database - intended mechanism is a separate DB for each language http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php#Language_of_user_interface

* вообще в вики для каждого языка создается своя DB тогда намного удобнее их поддерживать - аля '''вики на других языках''' в каждую статью ([http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php#Language_of_user_interface так] как это правильно делается)
* перевод wiki в принципе не нужен - разработчики вполне владеют английским.
* перевод програм на телефоне нужное дело - [[Talk:Translation]] В общем я супротив такого оформления перевода. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 05:50, 7 March 2007 (CET)

Talk:Dialer/2007

2007-03-04T03:19:52Z

Dmitri: DTMF in dialer

== About [[Dialer#Call_History | History Mode]] ==
[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 01:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)：

''It looks weird that the filters and functions button are together. Actually there is no need for the button 8) more items & 11)more items counter. We can put the filters(All Calls, Missed Called, Dialed Calls, Received Calls) to the left top button. And put 'Save' command to the position 8).''

[[User:Sean|Sean]]:

I agree. Go ahead and do this now and I'll talk with the designers later today. Thanks!

<HR>

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 04:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)：

Q1:There is no way to Dial the selection.

[[User:Sean|Sean]]:

A: Just tap on the history list item. This will return to the dialer with this string autocompleted.

Q2:If we have the 'Finger Navigation', we need not to show the list in the font so big. Is it necessary?

[[User:Sean|Sean]]:

A: The reason the font is big is just so the hit area region is big. The designer might change the appearance, but from the programming standpoint, it will probable be this big.

Q3:Why this 'History' title bar is at bottom?

[[User:Sean|Sean]]:

A: This is just the standard layout for finger applications that we're using. It's the title area.

<HR>

[[User:CM|CM]] 9:44, 72 February 2007 (UTC)：

Q: Is it possible to make the history view the default when making calls? I do at least 90% of all dialing on my k750 by selecting a name from my call history and it's the quickest by far. Another 9% or so is made from the address book. Typing in a number is something I do once or twice per month. It would be great if the history view could be easily controlled with the fingers, just scroll to the right number and press call.

== About [[Dialer#Dial_Mode | Dial Mode]] ==

--[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 02:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC):

Q1: is 2) necessary?

[[User:Sean]]
Yes. This will indicate whether or not the string can be autocompleted. If will also show the picture thumbnail of the contact if available.

Q2: 4) 'auto-complete' widget? Can it be functional?

[[User:Sean]]
Not yet. For now just leave out the autcomplete part.

Q3: 5) I suggest changing to the pairs: "*"-"+", "0"-"p", "#"-"w", this way, button will not have to react according to time delay, it will only care the 'tap-with-hold'

[[User:Sean]]
Q: This is kind of cool. But I think it's somewhat non-standard. What does the Ming phone do?

[[User:Tony guan]]

A:Ming just does the similar way. '*'-'P', '0'-'+', 'w'is inserted from the menu.

Q4: Do we need a confirm button to indicate the acceptance of current 'auto-completion'?

[[User:Sean]]
My thinking was as followings. When the user taps on the contact the string is automatically completed. When pressing delete (one) the autocompleted tail is removed.

Q5: the 3 contacts displayed on the top, only 3, or it can be browsed via some mechanic?

[[User:Sean]]

This should be a list of all available names that match the current dial string.

[[User:Tony guan]]
But the space is limited, so we need some '<<' or '>>' to indicate that.

<HR>

[[user:Alex|Alex]] 13 September 2006

''About the recording function, in WinCE based mobile there are some third-party applications to support this. So is in palm OS based mobile. I have being searching for an open-source one, but haven't got any. Would you please give some suggestion? Thanks.''

''One listed feature is DTMF support, should this be a hardware feature and given support by hardware or we should implement by software in [[Dialer]]?''

([[User:Sean|Sean Moss-Pultz]])
A: This is supported by Ti. We just need to impliment the UI. Please read this [[GSM02.07#1.15_Dual_Tone_Multi_Frequency_function_.28DTMF.29 | spec]] if you want more information. I'm going to write more details for this feature within the next few days.

<HR>

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 03:05, 6 September 2006 (UTC):
''Q1: I think this design should be closely combined with the hardware button design. Some feature can be called or completed by directly press the hardware buttons. For example, call the history, or call directly from the current input by pressing the green call button. such as the nokia cell phones.''

[[user:Mickey|Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]]: ''We don't have any hardware buttons except a power button and a "phone" button. As mentioned in [[Look & Feel]], the "phone" button calls the dialer on 'tap'.

<HR>

[[user:Alex|Alex]] ''Q: In old specification (Call Handler Application Specification v0.2), there is another mode called "In Call", both of the Incoming and Outgoing mode will switch to "In Call Mode" after taken some action. However, call handler application is not listed in the Application Page now. Does this mode won't need any more or there will be other countermeasures? Thanks.

([[User:Sean | Sean Moss-Pultz]])
''A: Check out [[Dialer#In_Call_Mode | In Call Mode]]. All of features from the Call Handler have been integrated into the Dialer.'''

<HR>
[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 08:45, 8 September 2006 (UTC):

''Q1:Talking about the phone application stay on backgroud, should we consider the offline mode now? or other profile settings. It will determine the status of the underlayer libgsmd.''

([[User:Sean | Sean Moss-Pultz]])
Q: Do you mean where the RF is shutdown? Or when their is no GSM signal? We currently support a mode called Flight Mode, where all RF will be shutdown.

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 01:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC):

Yes, RF will be shutdown, and so as the dialer will not function or part of it will not function. It's a point for system design.

([[User:Sean|Sean Moss-Pultz]])

I'm planning on designing the Panel Applications to reflect their status. For example, if the GPS connection is off, the [[GPS_Connection_Status | GPS Connection Status]] will show a red X (or something like this) through it.
<HR>

''Q2:So 'Profile Setting' should be an application. It will allow user to select the ring volume or vibrate or not.''

([[User:Sean | Sean Moss-Pultz]])
Profiles are a huge part of this phone. We've started to define this part but it's not complete yet. Please see [[Preferences#Profiles | Profiles]].

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 01:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC):
A: From the view of a developer, I care more about the effects of the current profile on the applications. That is, we have to make clear which one or which part of one will be affected by the current profile settings.

([[User:Sean | Sean Moss-Pultz]])
Agreed. We will provide a common interface for all applications to know the state of the current profile.,

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 06:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)：

Q:Dear Sean, could we first make clear what the phone application should be like? Let's focus on the basic function first.

([[User:Sean | Sean Moss-Pultz]])
A: Do you mean from a "look and feel" standpoint? Or from a feature set?

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 01:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC):

A: I mean both. Maybe we have to narrow our view to some extent to facilitate our project progress. The great ideas will also shine, but they will not take too much effort.

([[User:Sean | Sean Moss-Pultz]])

Agreed. But please give me some time to work with my graphics designers to stabilize the "look & feel". They are working on this now. Before the end of this month (Sept), all of this should be ready.

<HR>
([[User:Sean|Sean Moss-Pultz]])

Q: Since the last number entered is stored in the dialer session, does it make sense to still prompt for saving to the phonebook?

([[user:Alex|Alex]])

A: It does make sense. One reason is the dialer session can only maintain a certain number of history records (i.e normally 10~20). New number will update the dialer session and the older ones will get lost. Another reason, i think, next time you redial this number, you would possibly forget what number is for whom, so saving into the phonebook will relate the number with a name, you can redial it from the contact.

What do you think?

([[User:Sean|Sean Moss-Pultz]])

A: I agree.

(If I may be allowed to add my $0.02, I think that being prompted by a dialog after ''every call'' will get quite annoying. I'd prefer it be accessible under a menu or a button in the Dialer app. --[[User:AdamBliss|AdamBliss]] 23:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC))

[[User:Sean|Sean Moss-Pultz]]

I've put this feature into the history mode. I think this should solve both problems at once.

<HR>

[[User:Sean]]

Q: What do you mean by "Speaker" in the [[Dialer#Outgoing_Call_Mode]] section?

[[User:Tony]]

A: Current phones do not support 'speaker' before connection established. I wish my mobile has such feature to allow me hear the event of connection establishment. A wish only, we can talk about it later.

[[User:Sean]]

Good point. I will fix the spec.

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 08:40, 25 September 2006 (UTC):

Q: ''Please explain the path: Dialer-(3 secs timeout)-in call mode.''

[[User:Sean]]

A: Have a look at [[Dialer#Connection_Error_Mode]]. This is just an [[Information Dialog]] widget that displays an error message and then returns to the [[Dialer]] application.

<HR>
[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 06:39, 28 September 2006 (UTC), With responses from [[User:Mickey]]

>1. is the auto-complete feature based on 'history' or 'contacts'?

In the dialer, auto-complete should be based on matching phone number prefixes in contacts.

>2. Worrying about the availability of target board, libgsmd on time.(for the 11.7 demo)

Me too :/ Harald, _please_ give us a sign of life.

>3. D-bus environment, who can help me?

See the openmoko-taskmanager for a quick'n'dirty way to listen for d-bus messages.
D-bus integration should be done in the framework as it's essential for every application,
so don't worry about that now. It would be very helpful though, if you would develop
the Dialer as a gobject-derived class from the start, this will make d-bus integration
more straightforward. Eventually, all applications providing a dbus interface will
need to be derived from gobject.

>4. How to generate and use the event “tap with hold”?

The standard procedure is to make tap-with-hold a right mouse button click.
So all you need to do is to deal with right mouse button events. We will
do the general mapping from tap-with-hold to right mouse button for the
target device later on.
<HR>
([[User:Abraxa|Abraxa]]) Q: I think it would be nice to be able to have the call history also show how long ago the calls have been placed/received. Listing date/time would be inconvenient however - I think a XX days/XX hours ago approach would be more useful and even fit into each entry line. Do you think this is feasible?

<HR>

Buttons in incoming/outgoing call mode are very small. Is it intentional or just nobody thought about it? --[[User:MikhailGusarov|MikhailGusarov]] 06:46, 20 February 2007 (CET)

== DTMF in dialer ==

* At what phase [[DTMF]] will be included in the dialer?

User talk:Speedevil

2007-03-01T06:59:30Z

Dmitri: tnx for the presentation

Talk to me!

Hi, will SDHC be supported with a firmware update in future?

== tnx for the presentation ==

Pretty nice [http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi presentation] of the OpenMoco internals. Tnx for sharing [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 07:59, 1 March 2007 (CET)

Gsmd

2007-02-25T22:48:11Z

Dmitri: /* Currently missing */ airplane mode

== gsmd ==

gsmd is the GSM daemon running in background of the GTA01 phone, managing the actual 'phone' part of the phone :)

=== Usage ===

gsmd is usually started as a daemon in background, but can be run in foreground mode for debugging.

The options can be queried like:
<pre>
> src/gsmd/gsmd --help
gsmd - (C) 2006 by Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org>
This program is FREE SOFTWARE under the terms of GNU GPL

Usage:
-v --version Display program version
-d --daemon Deamonize
-h --help Display this help message
-p dev --device dev Specify serial device to be used
-s spd --speed spd Specify speed in bps (9600,38400,115200,...)
-l file --logfile file Specify a logfile to log to
</pre>

If your GSM modem is attached to ttyUSB3, you can e.g. use:
gsmd -p /dev/ttyUSB3 -s 115200

== libgsmd ==

libgsmd is a library with C language API for application programs. Programs using this library can use the phone, e.g. make phone calls, receive incoming calls, register to the network, etc.

== libgsmd-tool ==

libgsmd-tool is a small demo applicaiton that can be used to demonstrate the usage of the libgsmd API.

=== Usage ===

libgsmd-tool has multiple modes.

==== Usage of shell mode ====

Shell mode provides a simple text-based command interface for making voice calls.

The shell mode can be started using

libgsmd-tool -m shell

It can be used like in the following example:

<pre>
> src/util/libgsmd-tool -m shell
libgsm-tool - (C) 2006 by Harald Welte
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

?
# A Answer incoming call
D Dial outgoing number
H Hangup call
O Power On
o Power Off
R Register Netowrk
O
# EVENT: PIN request (type=1) Please enter PIN: 6582
R
# EVENT: Netreg searching for network
EVENT: Netreg registered (home network)

D03024033902
# Dial 03024033902
EVENT: Call Progress: UNKNOWN
EVENT: Call Progress: PROCEED
EVENT: Call Progress: SYNC
EVENT: Call Progress: ALERT
H
# Hangup
EVENT: Call Progress: DISCONNECT
EVENT: Call Progress: RELEASE

EVENT: Incoming call type=2!
EVENT: Incoming call clip=`"03024033902"'
EVENT: Incoming call type=2!
A
# Answer
RSTR=`OK'
H
# Hangup
RSTR=`OK'
</pre>

==== Usage of atcmd mode ====

The atcmd mode is a passthrough-mode. Passthrough means that it accepts [[GSM 07.07]] commands, passes them through the daemon to the phone, and returns you the response. this is very useful for debugging.

The atcmd mode can be started using

libgsmd-tool -m atcmd

Usage is like in the following example:

<pre>
> src/util/libgsmd-tool -m atcmd
libgsm-tool - (C) 2006 by Harald Welte
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

AT+CPAS
STR=`AT+CPAS'
RSTR=`+CPAS: 0'
AT+COPS=?
STR=`AT+COPS=?'
RSTR=`+COPS: (2,"E-Plus","E-Plus","26203"),(3,"o2 - de","o2 - de","26207"),(3,"Vodafone.de","Vodafone","26202"),(3,"T-Mobile D","TMO D","26201")'
</pre>

== Currently missing ==

(please add items to this list if you're missing more features)

* Phone related functions
** Airplane mode / gsmd stop
* Network related functions
** obtain list of available operators
** select operator out of the list
** obtain list of operator names
** query field strength
* SMS related features
** send SMS
** receive SMS
* SIM related functions
** read phonebook entry
** write phonebook entry
* GPRS related functions
** set up GPRS link, use it via separate DLC of TS07.10 multiplex
* gsmd internal infrastructure
** fine-grained event subscriptions (rather than wildcard-subscribe)
** possibility to specify log-level from command line

Press Coverage

2007-02-24T09:41:29Z

Dmitri: /* February 2007 */

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[http://www.google.com/trends?q=openmoko%2Cneo1973&ctab=1&geo=all&date=all Openmoko and Neo1973 on google trends.]

This site contains the press coverage about OpenMoko and the Neo 1973 sorted by language and date. Newest on top.

== Languages ==

=== English ===

==== February 2007 ====
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9706477996.html linuxdevices.com] Announce of the Openembedded booth at FOSDEM in Brussels.
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2657814070.html linuxdevices.com] Quick interview with Sean and some pictures
* [http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/first-look-the-antiiphone-openmokos-neo1973-236841.php gizmodo.com] Photos and comments on hardware and software
* [http://www.onecompare.com/mobile-news/article-asp~aid~244~pub~56321102~story~openmoko-launch-the-official-portal-for-development-of-the-openmoko-platform onecompare.com] Short news article
* [http://crunchgear.com/2007/02/15/openmokos-open-source-mobile-os crunchgear.com] Holding the phone upside down
* [http://www.slashgear.com/openmoko-and-fic-neo1973-updates-153926.php slashgear.com] Video interview and many pictures
* [http://www.djlosch.com/article_Comparison%3A_iPhone_vs_A1200_vs_Neo1973 djlosch.com] Article comparing the Neo to the iPhone and A1200
* [http://popsci.typepad.com/popsci/2007/02/up_close_and_pe.html popsci.typepad.com] Screenshot of Linux booting on the Neo

==== January 2007 ====
* [http://popsci.typepad.com/ces2007/2007/01/opensource_stri.html Popsci.com] Open Source Strikes Again
* [http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/openmoko-smartphone-did-they-have-a-time-machine-or-what-229243.php Gizmodo.com] OpenMoko interface compared to iPhone
* [http://www.linuxjournal.com/xstatic/abstracts/upfront Linux Journal] Doc Searls in the feb 2007 issue
* [http://www.osdir.com/Article9642.phtml OSDir.com] Mobile Linux for the Mobile Fan] -> [http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=7710 MadPenguin] Mobile Linux for the Mobile Fan
* [http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/davesdownload/archive/070112/a_populist_challenge_to_apples.htm US News] A Populist Challenge to Apple's iPhone
* [http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1321 tectonic.co.za] iPhone vs OpenMoko: The open alternative
* [http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=196802206&subSection=All+Stories InformationWeek] Startup Promises First Linux Smartphone Based On Open Standards
* [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/15/open_phone/ The Register] Open Phones with Open Moko
* [http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/11589 The Tech Report] OpenMoko offers open-source smart phone
* [http://blogs.ft.com/techblog/2007/01/openmoko_harks_.html Financial Times] OpenMoko harks back to Hello Moto
* [http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/20/1551200 Slashdot] OpenMoko Schedule Announced
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRvtAAXTIlg Youtube] Interview with Sean Moss-Pultz ([http://www.monoploid.be/dl/openmoko_sean_interview.ogm mirror in Ogg format])
* [http://www.libervis.com/article/forget_iphone_hail_openmoko_the_true_revolution Libervis.com] Forget iPhone, hail OpenMoko, the true revolution
* [http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/sizemodo-iphone-vs-openmoko-neo1073-229294.php Gizmodo]iPhone vs. Openmoko Neo1973] (please, don't mind the typo i n the title)

==== November 2006 ====
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html linuxdevices.com] Cheap, hackable Linux smartphone due soon
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7056478804.html linuxdevices.com] First OpenMoKo phone taps dual-licensed SyncML stack
* [http://lwn.net/Articles/208298/ lwn.net] The OpenMoko open phone
* [http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35590 theinquirer.net] A truly open Linux phone with GPS debuts

=== German ===

==== February 2007 ====
* [http://www.digital-living-magazin.de/index.php?pid=17&art=2050&cid=DLnewsletter digital-living-magazin.de] Linux erobert Mobilfunkmarkt
* [http://www.heise.de/tr/artikel/85138 Technology Review] Open-Source-Handy, nächster Versuch
* [http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2007/10833.html pro-linux] OpenMoko-Quellcode angekündigt
* [http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/85354 heise online] OpenMoko: Linux-Plattform für Handys freigegeben

==== November 2006 ====

* [http://golem.de/0611/48824.html golem.de] OpenMoko kündigt Open-Source-Handy an
* [http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/80714 heise online] Smartphone mit offener Linux-Plattform
* [http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2006/10448.html pro-linux] Offenes Linux-Smartphone »OpenMoko« für Januar 2007 angekündigt

=== Scandinavian ===
* [http://www.amobil.no/nyhet/mobiltelefoner/openmoko_klart_for_verden/36554 Amobil.no] OpenMoko klart for verden
* [http://www.nyteknik.se/art/48697 NyTeknik] Snart är den öppna Linuxtelefonen här (Swedish) (Translation: this article states free release to selected developers Feb 11, commercial release to developers March 11, and main release to market Sep 11. See also [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/000000.html])

=== French ===
* [http://linuxfr.org/2006/11/08/21596.html LinuxFR] OpenMoko : sortie en janvier d'un téléphone-GPS enfin libre!

Help:Contents

2007-02-24T08:53:56Z

Dmitri: +all articles, +all categories links

==Admin list==
* Who are the [[Special:Listusers/Bureaucrat|wiki admins]]?

==Dynamic indexes==
* [[Special:Allpages| List of all articles]]
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* [[Special:Categories| List of categories]]

Talk:Main Page

2007-02-24T08:45:14Z

Dmitri: /* Opera9 - navigation */ typo

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 01:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC):
''Q: Dear all, who knows how to surf this wiki website without repeatly clicking the 'HomePage' and then going down to the page I want? Is there anything like 'Upper Layer' & "Lower layre" function to let me go relatively? For example: when I review the 'Dialer' Page, I want to return the 'Software' Page more conveniently.''

([[User:Sean|Sean Moss-Pultz]])

A: I totally agree with you. The navigation is far from optimal. Later on this month (once I get all the applications more refined, I plan on spending considerable time working on the interface of this Wiki. The features are great. But the functionality is just not there yet.

Please keep listing your comments and concerns on this discussion. I'll make sure to fix this during my work later this month.

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 08:36, 14 September 2006 (UTC)：

Thanks! Wiki is really a great tool you bring to us.

([[User:Sean|Sean Moss-Pultz]])

I'm glad you guys are liking it. For working across different parts of the world (and even in the same office :-) it's a fantastic tool for organizing thoughts and ideas. I haven't had enough time to really work with the structure of this site. When I get the navigation right, things will be even better!

Hi, the site doesn't render correctly on my computer (with firefox). [[Image:Brokenscreenshot.png|thumb]] [[User:Nutbearer|Nutbearer]] 08:59, 15 February 2007 (CET)

== Opera9 - navigation ==

Navigation is at the end of page under Opera9: [[Image:Wiki-openmoko-layout.png|thumb]]
--[[User:MikhailGusarov|MikhailGusarov]] 09:14, 15 February 2007 (CET)

:choose monobook skin in preferences - that would work just as expected. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 08:23, 24 February 2007 (CET)

== a version of the front page ==

[[Main Page test]] - reformatted for possible replacement of the [[Main Page]] 
Your opinion wanted with pros and cons. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 09:37, 24 February 2007 (CET)

Talk:Main Page

2007-02-24T08:37:08Z

Dmitri: a version of the front page

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 01:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC):
''Q: Dear all, who knows how to surf this wiki website without repeatly clicking the 'HomePage' and then going down to the page I want? Is there anything like 'Upper Layer' & "Lower layre" function to let me go relatively? For example: when I review the 'Dialer' Page, I want to return the 'Software' Page more conveniently.''

([[User:Sean|Sean Moss-Pultz]])

A: I totally agree with you. The navigation is far from optimal. Later on this month (once I get all the applications more refined, I plan on spending considerable time working on the interface of this Wiki. The features are great. But the functionality is just not there yet.

Please keep listing your comments and concerns on this discussion. I'll make sure to fix this during my work later this month.

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 08:36, 14 September 2006 (UTC)：

Thanks! Wiki is really a great tool you bring to us.

([[User:Sean|Sean Moss-Pultz]])

I'm glad you guys are liking it. For working across different parts of the world (and even in the same office :-) it's a fantastic tool for organizing thoughts and ideas. I haven't had enough time to really work with the structure of this site. When I get the navigation right, things will be even better!

Hi, the site doesn't render correctly on my computer (with firefox). [[Image:Brokenscreenshot.png|thumb]] [[User:Nutbearer|Nutbearer]] 08:59, 15 February 2007 (CET)

== Opera9 - navigation ==

Navigation is at the end of page under Opera9: [[Image:Wiki-openmoko-layout.png|thumb]]
--[[User:MikhailGusarov|MikhailGusarov]] 09:14, 15 February 2007 (CET)

:choose monoblock in preferences - that would work just as expected. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 08:23, 24 February 2007 (CET)

== a version of the front page ==

[[Main Page test]] - reformatted for possible replacement of the [[Main Page]] 
Your opinion wanted with pros and cons. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 09:37, 24 February 2007 (CET)

Talk:Main Page

2007-02-24T07:23:04Z

Dmitri: /* Opera9 - navigation */ use monoblock

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 01:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC):
''Q: Dear all, who knows how to surf this wiki website without repeatly clicking the 'HomePage' and then going down to the page I want? Is there anything like 'Upper Layer' & "Lower layre" function to let me go relatively? For example: when I review the 'Dialer' Page, I want to return the 'Software' Page more conveniently.''

([[User:Sean|Sean Moss-Pultz]])

A: I totally agree with you. The navigation is far from optimal. Later on this month (once I get all the applications more refined, I plan on spending considerable time working on the interface of this Wiki. The features are great. But the functionality is just not there yet.

Please keep listing your comments and concerns on this discussion. I'll make sure to fix this during my work later this month.

[[User:Tony guan|Tony guan]] 08:36, 14 September 2006 (UTC)：

Thanks! Wiki is really a great tool you bring to us.

([[User:Sean|Sean Moss-Pultz]])

I'm glad you guys are liking it. For working across different parts of the world (and even in the same office :-) it's a fantastic tool for organizing thoughts and ideas. I haven't had enough time to really work with the structure of this site. When I get the navigation right, things will be even better!

Hi, the site doesn't render correctly on my computer (with firefox). [[Image:Brokenscreenshot.png|thumb]] [[User:Nutbearer|Nutbearer]] 08:59, 15 February 2007 (CET)

== Opera9 - navigation ==

Navigation is at the end of page under Opera9: [[Image:Wiki-openmoko-layout.png|thumb]]
--[[User:MikhailGusarov|MikhailGusarov]] 09:14, 15 February 2007 (CET)

:choose monoblock in preferences - that would work just as expected. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 08:23, 24 February 2007 (CET)

Help:Contents

2007-02-24T07:18:44Z

Dmitri: +admin list, +templates list

==Admin list==
* Who are the [[Special:Listusers/Bureaucrat|wiki admins]]?

==List of all templates ==
* [{{fullurl:Special:Allpages|namespace=10}} List of all templates]

Talk:Translation

2007-02-23T08:03:47Z

Dmitri: +some ideas

Who is coordinating translation, in paticular, russian one? I would be nice to see the progress and where is newcomers can fit in. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 05:33, 23 February 2007 (CET)
: There is already main SVN which probably will contain all the translations (I think it is no problem for OpenMoko team). I propose to create mailing list for translators (like Debian's <code>debian-l10n-russian@</code> list), and wiki page "how to start translating", with the name of coordinator (do you want to be the coordinator? ;), mailing list name, translation rules and so on. [[User:MikhailGusarov|MikhailGusarov]] 07:42, 23 February 2007 (CET)
::For coordination - we just have to have a list of files to translate and status of them such as ''translated, in progress, to translate'' see the table below. It can be done by creating progress pages (such as Translation_ru for russian language) with list of all [[applications]] and status of translation. The tools and commands how to retrive files for translation and submit translated version to the appropriate destination IMO should be on the [[Translation| top of the page]] - it would not take much space. Maillist for each language, where is ppl willing to work, would be very helpfull. However, since all the translators able to read and write in english - we can use regular maillist for developers, or just one dedicated maillist for all translators. Also I doubt nessesity to split wiki on language basis at present time. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 09:03, 23 February 2007 (CET)
==Translation status==
one master "skeleton" page with all the [[applications]] preformatted in tables and initial status ''to translate'', and one page per language with progress status based on the master page:

Example/Skeleton of the translation table
==Example for Skeleton translation table==
===Contacts===
{|
|-
| [[Contacts]]
|
{| border=1
|file1
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file2
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file3
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

===Calendar===
{|
|-
| [[Calendar]]
|
{|border=1
|file4
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file5
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file6
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

==Example for pages with translation status==
===Contacts===
{|
|-
| [[Contacts]]
|
{| border=1
|file1
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file2
| bgcolor=#FFEBAD |In progress since yyyy-mm-dd
|-
|file3
| bgcolor=#B9FFC5 | translated yyyy-mm-dd
|}
|}

===Calendar===
{|
|-
| [[Calendar]]
|
{|border=1
|file4
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file5
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file6
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

Applications

2007-02-23T05:40:09Z

Dmitri: /* 2nd Phase */ +backup

== Overview ==
Although [[OpenMoko]] is designed for smartphones that use a stylus, it would be foolish to expect people to only operate their handsets with stylus. For this reason, some core phone-related applications will be developed with finger (as opposed to stylus navigation) in mind.

{{note| Applications listed on this page are listing in order of priority and by phase. 0th phase is for the developers preview release in February, 1st phase is for March. 2nd phase is September... when we are ready for mass market appeal.}}

== General Principles ==
* All modifications are saved instantenously, there should never be a save command.
* Make sure users can't make interface operation errors, or that the effects are easily reversible, instead of just notifying them of the potential consequences of their actions.
* When you open a document you should be returned to the place where you were working when you last closed or save it (this is our concept of sessions).
* Label buttons with adjectives, which describe the state of the object affected
* Designers should seek an efficient monotonous solution to gain benefits, including ease of learning, simplicity of implementation, minimization of documentation, and lowered maintenance costs.
* Whenever you find yourself specifying an error message, please stop; then redesign the interface so that the condition that generated the error message doesn't arise.
* If the user gets no utility from a process, there is no reason to tell them that it is happening.

{{note|Innovation usually happens at the bottom. What we need to do is provide consistent ways to develop and deploy appliations.}}

==Finger-Based Applications ==

([[Sample Native-Finger Application|template]] for new native-finger applications)

=== 0th Phase ===
* [[Dialer]]
* [[Main Menu]]

=== 1st Phase ===
* [[Music Player]]
* [[Screen Saver]]
* [[Dialer]] with [[Least Cost Routing]] for international calling
* [[Headset Emulator]]

=== 2nd Phase ===
* [[Clocks]]
* [[GPS Navigation]]
* [[Calculator]]
* [[Unit Converter]]
* [[Game]]
* [[Guitar Tuning]]
* [[Code Memo]]
* [[Video Player]]

==Stylus-Based Applications ==

([[Sample Native-Stylus Application|template]] for new native-stylus applications)

=== 0th Phase ===
* [[Top Panel]]
* [[Footer]] with embedded [[History|Task Manager]]
* [[Contacts]]
* [[Calendar]]

=== 1st Phase ===
* [[Messages]]
* [[Application Manager]]
* [[Today]]
* [[Feed Reader]]
* [[Preferences]]
* [[Help Viewer]]

=== 2nd Phase ===
* [[Search]]
* [[Media Player]]
* [[Sketchbook]]
* [[Picture Viewer]]
* [[File Browser]]
* [[Terminal]]
* [[IM]]
* [[Web Browser]]
* [[Reader]]
* [[System Info]]
* [[Backup]]

== Panel Applications ==

Panel Applications are individual executables residing in the [[Top Panel]]. They usually indicate their status and offer a pop-up menu. We are not yet sure whether there is enough screen real estate for this huge number of panel applications.

([[Sample Panel Application|template]] for new panel applications)

=== 0th Phase ===
* [[GSM & GPRS Connection Status]]
* [[Battery Monitor]]
* [[Clock]]

=== 1st Phase ===
* [[GPS Connection Status]]
* [[Bluetooth Connection Status]]
* [[USB Connection Status]]

=== 2nd Phase ===
* [[Search]]
* [[IM Presence]]
* [[Screen Grabber]]

PIM Storage

2007-02-23T04:42:13Z

Dmitri: /* Goals & Objectives */ backup link creation

== Overview ==
PIM storage describes a means of storing data in an extensible and cross-referencable way.

== Goals & Objectives ==
* Method to exchange data between all applications completely transparent
* Personal data security / encryption
* Great bidirectional sync of personal data
* Easy method for [[Backup|backup]] (ideally this should be automatic)
* Real-time incremental search
* Autocomplete of personal data information

== Use Cases ==
* I would like to attach arbitrary data to a contact (AKA: custom fields)
* I would like some level of integration with automatic switching of profiles. For example, it would be cool to automatically backup my personal data to my desktop PC when I get home.
* I want to type the first few numbers of a phone number and be presented a list of matching contacts.
* I want to add a contact to multiple groups (AKA: categories)

== Constraints ==
(TBD)

== Implementation Recommendations ==
* This will be based on [http://projects.o-hand.com/eds Embedded EDS], this way we will can directly use Evolution data, get OpenSync for free, and eventually be able to talk to a Microsoft Exchange Server using the Novell Connector.

== Interactions ==
* Embedded EDS needs libglade2, [[dbus]], and libdb.

== Unresolved Issues ==
* Synchronizing w/ Outlook
* Synchronizing w/ MacOS X

Possible solutions:
* mokod - An OpenMoko daemon to run on host operating systems

== Questions and Answers ==
(None)

Talk:Translation

2007-02-23T04:33:06Z

Dmitri: coordination and progress on translation?

Who is coordinating translation, in paticular, russian one? I would be nice to see the progress and where is newcomers can fit in. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 05:33, 23 February 2007 (CET)

User:Dmitri

2007-02-23T04:11:42Z

Dmitri: contact info

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Translation

2007-02-23T04:06:21Z

Dmitri: /* Russian */

Let us spread the popularity of OpenMoko/Neo1973 by
- localization of the software
- translation of documentation

Just as an overview who is able and willing to translate parts into other languages,
please join and add your Language and name. The source for the translation will
be English. When you have good English skills - you could contribute by correct
the sources :)

A good point to start would be to continuous translating of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMoko into more languages on the other language sites of wikipedia.

"...it is easy to join and spend some minutes for translating,
and when someone finds some mistakes in any languages don't
blame the translator - just be productive and fix it yourself!" -[[User:RobertMichel|Robert Michel]]

Languages already offered on our community mailinglist, please add your name yourself:

== Afrikaans ==

== Arabic ==
* Hossam Mahmoud

== Chinese (Simplified)==
* xyb

== Czech ==
* [[User:Mikesh|Michal Heczko]]

== Danish ==
* [[User:UlrikRasmussen|Ulrik Rasmussen]]

== Dutch ==
* [[User:MarcVerwerft|Marc Verwerft]]
* [[User:Madjo|Marcel De Jong]]
* [[User:OliverH|Oliver Heesakkers]]
* [[User:LuitvD|Luit van Drongelen]]

== Estonian ==
* [[User:Hadara|Sven Petai]]

== Finnish ==
* [[User:Jani-Matti_Hätinen|Jani-Matti Hätinen]]
* [[User:TuomoSipola|Tuomo Sipola]]

== French ==
* [[User:SebastienJolicoeur|Sebastien Jolicoeur]]
* [[User:MarcSert|Marc Sert]]
* [[User:FoucaultdeBonneval|Foucault deBonneval]]
* [[User:Sufflope|Jean-Sébastien Bour]]

== German ==
* [[User:RobertMichel|Robert Michel]]
* [[User:FabianOff|Fabian Off]]
* [[User:Denis std|Denis]]
* Lars C.

== Hebrew ==
* [[User:OlegSverdlov|Oleg Sverdlov]]
* [[User:Any_Key|Any_Key]]

== Italian ==
* [[User:SergioTota|Sergio Tota]]

== Japanese ==
*[[User:WilliamLai|William Lai]]
*[[Momoko Matsuzaki]]

== Polish ==
* [[User:KrzysztofKajkowski|Krzysztof Kajkowski]]
* Tomasz Zieliński
* [[User:MaciejLigenza|Maciej Ligenza]]
* [[User:PiotrDuda|Piotr Duda]]

== Portuguese ==
* Sergio Bessa
* Mario Costa

== Russian ==
* [[User:OlegSverdlov|Oleg Sverdlov]]
* [[User:DenisBY|Denis Kot]]
* [[User:MikhailGusarov|Mikhail Gusarov]]
* [[User:x-demon|Alexander Sokolow]]
* [[User:Any_Key|Any_Key]]
* [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]]

== Spanish ==
* [[User:RosangelaCaninoKoning|Rosangela CaninoKoning]]
* [[User:kresp0|Santiago Crespo (kresp0)]]
* [[User:José_Suárez|José Suárez]]

== Turkish ==
* [[User:EnginErenturk|Engin Erenturk]]

== Welsh ==
* [[User:Rhoslyn_Prys|Rhoslyn Prys]]

And feel free to join and add an new language to this list above.