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Flashing the Neo FreeRunner

2008-12-26T10:10:37Z

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Openmoko regularly releases updated versions of the Openmoko root filesystem, the [[kernel]], and the [[Bootloader]] (called U-Boot) as binary images. These may be programmed into the Flash memory (NAND) of Neo FreeRunner. For that, you can use the USB cable and another computer which will run an Openmoko-provided tool to flash the Neo FreeRunner "through" USB.

== 3 software components and 2 kinds of storage ==

Inside the FreeRunner 3 software components are working:
* '''bootloader''': a small program that runs first and starts everything else when the FreeRunner is powered on or reset (depending on [[Booting the Neo FreeRunner|how you reset it]], the version from NOR or NAND is booted).
* '''kernel''': the central component in the Linux operating system.
* '''root filesystem''': contains all the files that make up the commands and applications that you can run.
All software components in the FreeRunner are bundled together into binary images.

The FreeRunner has two kinds of internal program storage: NOR flash and NAND flash. On a desktop computer when you want to replace the operating system (OS), you would boot it from a CD-ROM drive, then copy OS files from the CD to the internal hard drive. The FreeRunner does not have a CD-ROM drive and files must typically be re-written/flashed directly into internal storage (NAND flash). Alternatively, it is possible to boot from a microSD where all the files have been loaded onto.

NOR flash is small and stores only a special boot program used when you need to re-write the contents of the NAND flash. Usually it is not necessary to re-write the the NOR flash. Instructions to do so is here: [[Flashing NOR]].

NAND flash acts more like a hard drive. It is divided into 3 partitions for the bootloader, kernel, and root filesystem. Being on different partitions, each component can be flashed separately. For example if you are trying to install a modified kernel, you only have to follow the steps to flash the kernel image.

'''Before you start: Erasing the root filesystem or flashing the bootloader are radical measures. Take the time to ponder the necessity. Sometimes problems can be fixed by only updating the kernel.'''

== Alternative : running from microSD card ==

You may install this distribution on the microSD card, in order to [[Booting from SD | boot from microSD card]]. That allows you to keep another distribution installed in NAND (for instance to test 2008.08 while still having 2007.2 for default boot).

== Collect the things you need ==

=== Download the DFU-util program ===

You will download that program on your desktop computer. It will allow you to connect to the FreeRunner through the USB cable and control its bootloader. That connection uses a special protocol which addresses the bootloader's interface, and differs from USB networking. There is a separate page to describe it in more detail: [[dfu-util]].

'''MacOS X:''' [[MacOS_X#Graphical_Flashing_with_Openmoko_Flasher]]

'''Linux:''' http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/dfu-util

Make sure it is executable by setting the permissions with this command: chmod a+x dfu-util

'''Linux 64-bit:''' You need 64-bit version of dfu-util, which usually can be found in your distribution repository.
If your destribution does not provide 64-bit dfu-util, or it consistently fails with a "-62" error, you have two ways to go:
# Seek for 32-bit machine and do flashing form it.
# Use 32-bit chroot (on amd64 debian). Worked for me --[[User:Bubak|Bubak]] 16:54, 4 September 2008 (UTC).

'''Windows:''' http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=166&release_id=162

See additional driver installation instructions for Windows at [[Dfu-util-windows]]

'''''Note:''' While there has been some limited success reported using dfu-util from within a Virtual Machine (such as VMware), in general it is not possible to use dfu-util in this fashion. You must use dfu-util on an operating system that has direct access to the physical USB device hardware.''

=== GUI for DFU-util ===

Optionally, you may want to use this GUI tool instead the dfu-util commands: [[NeoTool]]

=== Download the image files that you will need ===

Exactly what files you need depends on what you are trying to install. In most cases you will need to install a Kernel (uImage) and a Root Filesystem (rootfs). In rare cases, when there is a bug you need fixed, you will also install a new bootloader.

Please read [[Distributions]] for choosing the distribution which fits your needs, and then see [[Download]] for downloading.

== Boot the FreeRunner from NOR Flash ==

[[Image:menu15.jpg|thumb|Booting from NOR Flash]]

# Read the other sections of this page first, because you will have 30 seconds to enter the flashing commands, come back here when ready.
# Do not connect the USB cable from the PC to your Neo FreeRunner yet (disconnect it).
# Boot your Neo FreeRunner into the NOR uBoot menu for flashing.
## Press and hold AUX button
## Press the Power button until the boot menu comes up
## This menu is labelled '''*** BOOT MENU (NOR) ***'''
## See also [[Booting the Neo FreeRunner]]
# Stay in NOR uBoot menu, do not select or enter any item in menu. Now you will be able to flash, make backups of your FreeRunner or query the FreeRunner with dfu-util.
# The FreeRunner only stays at the NOR boot prompt for about 30 seconds and then shuts off unless you do something.
# Connect your Neo to the GNU/Linux or Windows host via a USB cable.
# Now you can enter the dfu-util commands on your PC as described below.
# If the Neo FreeRunner turns off before you press start flashing ('''screen goes black'''), go back to step 2. If you start flashing in time, the phone will not turn off meanwhile.



Note that the dfu-util connection does '''not''' use Ethernet over USB - that is, you should not attempt to set up a usb0 network interface on your GNU/Linux host desktop (on Windows, you need a DFU class driver, or you can use the LibUSB-Win32 driver described on the [[Dfu-util-windows]] page). The dfu-util utility sets up its own connection to the FreeRunner. In fact, you will not be able to make an Ethernet-over-USB connection to the FreeRunner when it is at the uBoot menu; this type of connection is only available when the FreeRunner has booted fully.

After connecting the FreeRunner to your host via USB cable, you can test whether dfu-util "sees" the FreeRunner by executing:

<pre>dfu-util -l</pre>

If you get error messages from the dfu-util command then try again. Often it works on the second try.

dfu-util uses the DeviceFirmwareUpgrade protocol, and may list more than one device. If so, try unplugging the other device (e.g. a USB mouse) or using the -d switch to tell dfu-util which device it should talk to, as described at the relevant bug report [http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2039].

Also, please remember to execute the dfu-util command with sufficient privileges (ie. root) -- you will need complete control over the usb bus.

== Do a backup ==

If you have a working image that you're happy with but want to try something different, you should probably do a [[Backup]].

== Using dfu-util ==

dfu-util can be used to read flash memory, write memory, and get information from the device.

This is the general command format to write an image file to a (predefined) "partition name" (referred to as ''altsetting'' in dfu-util help/manual) :

dfu-util -a ''<altsetting>'' -R -D ''<file_name>''

where: 
-a ''altsetting'' : Specify the altsetting of the DFU interface by name or by number 
-R : Issue USB Reset signalling once we're finished 
-D ''file_name'' : Write firmware from ''file_name'' into device

On Linux, you run dfu-util from a command shell prompt. If you have not put it somewhere on your command path you probably need to prefix it with a "./" like this '''./dfu-util'''.
On some systems you need to be root before this will work and on Ubuntu you must preface the command with "sudo" or you will get the following error: "Cannot claim interface: could not claim interface 2: Operation not permitted"

On Windows, you need to open a command window and run from a command line. Use Start-Run Program and type "cmd" to open a Window.

More detailed manual for dfu-util is available here : [[Dfu-util]]

GUI frontend for dfu-util (and more): [[NeoTool]]

== Flashing the Kernel ==

Note: The phone needs to be in the U-boot bootup menu for this to work.
Get there by holding down the aux button while powering up the device.

The command format is

dfu-util -a kernel -R -D ''/path/to/uImage''

When flashing succeeds the following will be shown:

status(0) = No error condition is present
Done!

Flashing may fail with an error -110. This indicates that the kernel is too big for the default kernel partition. uboot can be used to change the size of the default partitions on the device. It may also mean that you are trying to put the wrong thing in the kernel space.

== Flashing the Root Filesystem ==

The root filesystem has to be an image in jffs2 format. If the file you downloaded is zipped or compressed (has a .gz, bz2, .zip, tar, tar.gz or .tgz extension) you have to uncompress it first.

The command format is

<pre>
dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D rootfs_filename.jffs2
</pre>
| U-Boot
where ''rootfs_filename.jffs2'' is the name of the file containing the root file system.

The flashing process can take up to 15 minutes for a ~70MB image. It is also wise to make sure that your Neo has enough battery charge prior to flashing.

When flashing succeeds the following will be shown:

<pre>
status(0) = No error condition is present
Done!
</pre>

== Flashing the boot loader to the NAND==

{{Note|In most cases you don't need to flash your bootloader. Flash it only if you want to update for a specific feature or due to a specific problem.}}

The boot loader (U-boot) file should have a .bin extension. As with the root filesystem, if the file you downloaded is zipped or compressed (has a .gz or .zip extension) you have to uncompress it first.

The command format is

dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D ''uboot.bin''

where ''uboot.bin'' is the name of the boot loader binary image file.

''Reminder'': You should have [[Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner#Boot_the_FreeRunner_from_NOR_Flash|boot from NOR first]], in order to flash the boot-loader in NAND. After flashing succesfully, make sure you reboot from NAND's newly flashed boot loader, to benefit from the updates.

=== Optional: Verifying boot-loader version ===




(Optional) After an upgrade, you may wish to check that the u-boot version matches the one you have just flashed. You can use 'grep Bootloader /dev/mtdblock1' from a shell on the FreeRunner (and possibly the 1973 as well) to get the '''NAND''' u-boot version, like this:
root@om-gta02:~# grep Bootloader /dev/mtdblock1
Neo1973 Bootloader U-Boot 1.3.2+gitr18+64eb10cab8055084ae25ea4e73b66dd03cc1a0cb

You can grep for the same string in /dev/mtdblock0 to retrieve the '''NOR''' u-boot version:
root@om-gta02:~# grep Bootloader /dev/mtdblock0
Neo1973 Bootloader U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12



== Reboot the FreeRunner from NAND ==

You should now be able to boot into the new images.

Pay attention '''to booting from the NAND flash this time''', in particular if you upgraded the boot-loader (in short: 1. press and hold ''power button'' down, and then 2. press ''aux button'')

The boot menu should be labelled '''*** BOOT MENU (NAND) ***''' this time (see [[Booting#Log_into_U-Boot_in_the_NAND_Flash|booting from NAND]] for more detailed instructions).

== A command line script to simplify dfu-util ==

DFUScript developed to assist users who have multiple devices in using dfu-util via the command line. Information on where to download and use DFUScript can be found on [[DFUScript]]

==See also==
*[[Qi]] alternative to uboot

[[Category:Flashing Openmoko| ]]

Dfu-util

2008-12-26T10:06:17Z

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{{warning|Dfu-util is currently broken on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_endian#Endianness_and_hardware big-endian] architectures}}
{{warning|Do not flash U-Boot unless you are sure you need to}}
{{note|You need to connect your neo directly to your pc with no hub between. Otherwise there could be problems with the hub and the usb reset.}}

== Purpose ==

dfu-util is a program that implements the Host (PC) side of the [[USB DFU]] (Universal Serial Bus Device Firmware Upgrade) protocol.

In the Openmoko project, we use this program to communicate with our specially enhanced [[u-boot]] boot loader, which implements the DFU device side.

Using dfu-util and your smartphone, you can
* transfer and flash [[Partitions|partitions]] in internal [[NAND Flash]].
* transfer anything into RAM
** this can be used for fast development cycles of low-level code such as kernels without flashing them
* read out the current internal NAND [[Partitions|partitions]]
** this is an easy and efficient way of doing full backups of your phone

== Source Code ==
On Debian and Ubuntu, you'll need libusb-dev:
sudo apt-get install libusb-dev autogen pkg-config autotools-dev autoconf automake

On Fedora you'll need libusb-devel and libusb-static:
yum install libusb-devel libusb-static

On Gentoo you can emerge openmoko-dfu-util after unmasking it:
echo "app-mobilephone/openmoko-dfu-util **" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
emerge -va app-mobilephone/openmoko-dfu-util

You can check out and build the latest version of dfu-util using the following subversion commands: 
svn co https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/host/dfu-util/ 
cd dfu-util 
./autogen.sh 
./configure 
make

The resulting binary is dfu-util/src/dfu-util.

== Binaries ==

Binary packages will be [http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/dfu-util made available] as part of the regular Openmoko builds. Currently, there is a dfu-util for Linux/i386.

You need to make the downloaded file (dfu-util) executable with:
<pre>
chmod +x dfu-util
</pre>
you can then run it with
<pre>
./dfu-util
</pre>
see below for full instructions.

[http://packages.debian.org/dfu-util dfu-util is packaged] for Debian ''>= lenny'', so can be installed with: <tt>apt-get install dfu-util</tt>

[http://downloads.sourceforge.net/slackfr-packs/dfu-util-svn4686-i686-1cfdev12.1.tgz dfu-util is packaged] for '''Slackware''' (12.1), so can be installed with: <tt>pkgtool</tt>

Currently, there is a largely untested binary for Win32 (see [[Dfu-util-windows]]). Windows users can refer to [[No_Linux]] for a more tested approach.

Compiling dfu-util on Mac:
* http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/008438.html
* [[User:SNMoore]]
* [[MacOS_X#Flashing_to_your_device]]

== Reference Documentation ==

To run dfu-util, you need to have /proc/bus/usb mounted and working. The terminal command "ls /proc/bus/usb" should return something similar to, "001 002 003 004 005 devices", it shouldn't be empty. If it is empty, use this command:

<pre>
sudo mount -t usbfs usbfs /proc/bus/usb
</pre>

You can permanently add it in your fstab so that it automatically mounts. You can use emacs to edit you fstab using the command "sudo emacs /etc/fstab -nw" in your terminal window. Add the below line to your fstab:

<pre>
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults
</pre>

=== Before using dfu-util ===
You'll need to boot your phone into the NAND Boot Menu:
* Ensure your phone is connected directly to the host computer by USB (not the USB-charger! :)
* Ensure that you execute all dfu-util commands as root
* Power off the phone
* Hold down AUX
* Press POWER until the Boot Menu appears
see also [[Booting the Neo FreeRunner]]

=== Command-line options ===

==== --help ====

<pre>
dfu-util - (C) 2007 by Openmoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Usage: dfu-util [options] ...
-h --help Print this help message
-V --version Print the version number
-l --list List the currently attached DFU capable USB devices
-d --device vendor:product Specify Vendor/Product ID of DFU device
-c --cfg config_nr Specify the Configuration of DFU device
-i --intf intf_nr Specify the DFU Interface number
-a --alt alt_nr Specify the Altseting of the DFU Interface
-t --transfer-size Specify the number of bytes per USB Transfer
-U --upload file Read firmware from device into <file>
-D --download file Write firmware from <file> into device
-R --reset Issue USB Reset signalling once we're finished
</pre>

==== --alt ====
With the -a switch you specify the location on the device you want to write to or read from.
However, for most cases, ''kernel'' and ''rootfs'' will be enough.

See [[Neo_FreeRunner_partitions]] for a list. You may also use the ''--list'' switch (see below), to get an online list.

==== --list ====

Using the --list option, you can list the available DFU capable devices, their configuration, interface and altsettings.
Below is an example for a current Neo1973 phone in u-boot '''Runtime Mode'''
<pre>
# ./dfu-util --list
dfu-util - (C) 2007 by Openmoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Found DFU Runtime: [0x1457:0x5119] devnum=0, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name="USB Device Firmware Upgrade"
</pre>

Below is an example for a current Neo1973 phone in u-boot '''DFU Mode'''
<pre>
# ./dfu-util --list
dfu-util - (C) 2007 by Openmoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Found DFU: [0x1457:0x5119] devnum=16, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=0, name="RAM 0x32000000"
Found DFU: [0x1457:0x5119] devnum=16, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=1, name="u-boot"
Found DFU: [0x1457:0x5119] devnum=16, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=2, name="u-boot_env"
Found DFU: [0x1457:0x5119] devnum=16, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name="kernel"
Found DFU: [0x1457:0x5119] devnum=16, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=4, name="splash"
Found DFU: [0x1457:0x5119] devnum=16, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=5, name="rootfs"
</pre>

This shows you six interfaces, all in '''configuration 0''' and '''interface 0''', with altsetting 0...5, for RAM and each [[Partitions|partition]].

==== --device ====

You can specify the USB Vendor and Product ID of the device you want to program:

dfu-util --device 0x1457:0x5119

If you only have one standards-compliant DFU device attached to your PC, this is optional. However, as soon as you have multiple DFU devices, dfu-util will detect this and abort, asking you to specify which device it shall use.

==== --transfer-size ====

Specifies the size of each individual USB transfer. If you don't use it, the maximum possible size for your combination of host operating system and USB device is chosen (for optimal performance).

==== --download ====

download the given file into the device.

==== --upload ====

upload from the DFU device into the given file[name].

{{note|Upload support is currently broken - [http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/676 #676]}}

== Phrasebook ==

There's no full-fledged manual yet. Instead, some examples:

=== Flashing the rootfs ===

dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D /path/to/openmoko-devel-image.jffs2

=== Flashing the kernel ===

dfu-util -a kernel -R -D /path/to/uImage

=== Flashing the bootloader ===

dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D /path/to/u-boot.bin

=== Flashing the splash image ===

dfu-util -a splash -R -D /path/to/splash.gz

see also [[Configuring_the_boot_splash_screens]]

=== Copying a kernel into RAM ===

dfu-util -a 0 -R -D /path/to/uImage

Once this has finished, the kernel will be available at the default load address of 0x32000000 in Neo1973 RAM.

{{note|You cannot transfer more than 2MB of data into RAM using this method}}

== Troubleshooting notes ==

If during flashing of an image using dfu-util you're consistently getting an error -110 message, check that the size of the destination NAND [[Partitions|partition]] is big enough to hold the image. For example the kernel partition is only 2 MB big by default and a kernel with debugging info compiled-in can often exceed this. It's possible to change the partition layout to enlarge a given partition and shrink other partitions but you have to remember to reflash all partitions whose start offset has changed afterwards. To adjust partitions layout use the ''mtdparts'' [[Bootloader|u-boot command]].

If in turn you're facing errors in seemingly random places during the flashing of images, most likely the USB hub or cable through which your Neo1973 is connected, is of too poor quality. It is recommended that you always connect the phone directly to the host when using dfu-util.

If dfu-util reports a message like the following, before it starts flashing:<pre>
Resetting USB...
not at least 2 device changes found ?!?
Lost device after RESET?</pre> retry the command - it should work on a second run.

If dfu-util complains about not being able to program the device while in runtime mode, do the following: while in the boot menu, remove the usb cable and insert it again. Depending on the version of uBoot it should display somewhere in the menu that it is now in DFU mode. Now dfu-util should be able to continue.

If dfu-util is too slow on Windows, that's a known bug. A suggestion is to run Linux on a virtual box. An full root image 97MB that is 776Mbit, the USB 1.1 on the Neo FreeRunner is capable of either 1.5 Mbit/s (Low-Speed) and 12 Mbit/s (Full-Speed). So flashing it should take less than 9 minutes with low speed and a bit more than a minute with full-speed. Plus transfer overhead, plus decompression on the Neo side.

Note that any error messages indicate a probable failed transfer, despite latter messages emitted about success, etc.

== See also ==
*[[Flashing the Neo 1973]] to the latest software.
*[[Flashing the Neo FreeRunner]]

[[Category:Flashing Openmoko]]

Backup

2008-10-04T08:52:55Z

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== Backing up just PIM data (contacts/tasks/calendar) ==
The following applies to all Qtopia PIM suite based derivations (FDOM, 2008.8, Qtopia)

Contacts, calendar appointments, and tasks are kept in ~/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite

To backup from simply use secure copy:
scp -pr root@192.168.0.202:~/Applications/ .
scp -pr root@192.168.0.202:~/Documents/ .
And to restore do the reverse:
scp -pr Applications root@192.168.0.202:~/
scp -pr Documents root@192.168.0.202:~/
Make sure you restart to allow the Qtopia PIM suite to see the changes:
reboot
This way we can flash applicable distributions with minimal effort and not lose all our important data.

== Backing up just /home/root ==

To backup the home folder (all your personal files in theory).

From the desktop pc run:

ssh root@phone 'tar -cpz /home/root' > moko-home-`date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S`.tar.gz

Where phone is the ip address of your phone (192.168.0.202).

Personally I added an entry to /etc/hosts so the above works for me. I also added the desktop key to /home/root/.ssh/authorized_keys on the phone as per the instructions in [[USB_Networking#SSH_Keys]].

If you want to check what is in the backup, run the following, replacing the filename with what was just created.

tar -tzf moko-home-20080802-203108.tar.gz | less

[http://timwise.wikispaces.com/my+neo+freerunner reference]

== Backing up everything ==

You may either :
* Backup the flash contents, in order to be able to restore (see below)
* or move the system to SD to be able to boot it from SD in case of need. See [[Moving current system from flash to SD]]

=== Backing-up flash images ===

{{note|Upload support is currently broken - [http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/676 #676]}}

You will need the [[Dfu-util]] to make a backup of your existing image.

As when [[Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner|flashing]], you will need to be in [[Booting_the_Neo_FreeRunner#Log_into_U-Boot_in_the_NOR_Flash|U-Boot in the NOR Flash]]. Log into the NOR uBoot menu and select ''Set console to USB'' (for FreeRunner just stay in NOR uBoot menu, do not select or enter anything). Now you will be able to flash, make backups of your FreeRunner or query the FreeRunner with [[Dfu-util|dfu-util]]. Backup is fairly slow; it took over ten minutes to back up a 247 MB rootfs.

It is important that you connect the USB cable directly from your computer to your phone. If there is a hub between them, backup (and flashing) will mostly likely fail.

{{note|On a Windows host, omit the "./" or "sudo ./" that precedes the commands listed on this page}}

<pre>
sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2
sudo ./dfu-util -a splash -R -U good-splash.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -U good-u-boot.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot_env -R -U good-u-boot_env.bin
</pre>

Here is what a successful dfu-util backup run looks like:

on the host PC:
<pre>
$ sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.img
dfu-util - (C) 2007 by Openmoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...
Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...
Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0
Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...
Resetting USB...
Opening USB Device...
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=12, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name="kernel"
Claiming USB DFU Interface...
Setting Alternate Setting ...
Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
dfuIDLE, continuing
Transfer Size = 0x1000
Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode
</pre>

on the FreeRunner:
<pre>
DFU: Switching to DFU Mode
DEVICE_CONFIGURED: 1
Starting DFU Upload of partition 'kernel'
</pre>

A failed run of dfu-util looks like this:

dfu-util - (C) 2007 by Openmoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...
Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...
Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0
Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...
Resetting USB...
Opening USB Device...
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=20, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name="rootfs"
Claiming USB DFU Interface...
Setting Alternate Setting ...
Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
dfuIDLE, continuing
Transfer Size = 0x1000
dfu_upload error -110

And shows errors demsg like this:
usb 5-2: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd dfu-util rqt 161 rq 2 len 4096 ret -110

=== Backing-up flash images (alternative) ===

On the device:
mkdir /var/tmp/root
mount /dev/root /var/tmp/root

On your workstation:
ssh root@192.168.0.202 "mkfs.jffs2 -d /var/tmp/root -e 128 --pad --no-cleanmarkers -x lzo" | pv -W > rootfs.jffs2
(The "| pv -W" is optional, it just gives you something to watch as the bytes fly by.)

On the device:
umount /var/tmp/root

=== Backing-up in a tar archive ===

ssh root@192.168.0.202 "tar c /bin /etc /home /lib /opt /sbin /tmp /usr /var" | pv -W > rootfs.tar
(The "| pv -W" is optional, it just gives you something to watch as the bytes fly by.)

Extract it and use <code>mkfs.jffs2</code> if you want convert it to a jffs2 image.

==Backup Scripts==

If you plan on backing up frequently, using a script will simplify the process:

===Simple backup script===

This script works well if you want to configure it to backup always the same device.

<pre>
#!/bin/sh
#
# Back up all partitions of the phone to a backup directory,
# adding today's date to the saved filenames.

DATE=`date +%Y-%m-%d`
DFU=./dfu-util
BACKUP_DIR=bak/

${DFU} -a kernel -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}kernel-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a rootfs -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}rootfs-${DATE}.jffs2
${DFU} -a splash -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}splash-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a u-boot -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}u-boot-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a u-boot_env -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}u-boot_env-${DATE}.bin
</pre>

===Interactive script===

This script is based on the above "Simple backup script" (by unknown). It does the backup of what you want and choose promting you for choices. Enjoy it! test it! contribute! You can find us at /server irc.freenode.net /j #openmoko and we'll be pleased to accept you help (ideas || code).

NOTE that the script works for me(tm) but it still needs some love. especially on traps and catches for wrong choices.

<pre>
#!/bin/bash

#############################################################################################################
## ##
## This script is Free Software, it's licensed under the GPLv3 and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY ##
## you can find and read the complete version of the GPLv3 @ http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ##
## ##
## Q: what does this script do? ##
## A: the script back up all partitions of the phone to a backup directory, interactively, ##
## adding today's date to the saved filenames. ##
## ##
## IMPORTANT:!!! REMEMBER TO RUN THIS SCRIPT AS ROOT SINCE dfu-util HAS TO BE USED AS ROOT!!! ##
## ##
## based on the orginal simple backup script at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup ##
## ##
## this version has been conceived and written by cga, x77686d, Infoport, jomat at /server irc.freenode.net##
## /j #openmoko,#bash and my collegue aubba @ work. ##
## ##
## for any suggestions and contributions contact cga (or one of the above) in the #openmoko channel ##
## ##
#############################################################################################################

## let's roll!!

## sets the date format for the date in the backup file, change accordingly to your local custom if you need
DATE=`date +%d-%m-%Y`

## here the scripts try to find the dfu-util binary and set it as the DFU var:
if which dfu-util >/dev/null ; then
echo
echo "dfu-util found in your path"
echo
## 1 the function use this if you placed/linked dfu-util in your $PATH
DFU=dfu-util

elif ls dfu-util >/dev/null ; then
echo
echo "dfu-util found in current directory"
echo
## or 2 use following line if dfu-util is placed in the same directory where you run the script
DFU=./dfu-util

else
## or 3 if the script doesn't find dfu-util shows the link for installing it and exit
echo
echo "dfu-util NOT found! install and use howto @ http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util"
echo
exit 1
fi

## here we get the hex code for devices found with dfu-util --list
## the hex code is grabbed and the name of the device is shown accordingly and you are prompetd to chose the right one:
echo
echo 'these are the devices i found:'
echo
for device in `${DFU} --list | grep 0x | cut -f3 -d' ' | tr -d '[]'` ; do
if [ "$device" == '0x1457:0x5119' ] ; then
echo 'Neo 1973'
elif [ "$device" == '0x1d50:0x5119' ] ; then
echo "Neo FreeRunner"
else
echo 'other device found, DO NOT use dfu-util on this!!! it might bork it...'
exit 1
fi
done | nl
echo
echo 'choose the device to backup:'
echo
read selection
HEX=$(${DFU} --list | grep 0x | head -n $selection | tail -1 | cut -f3 -d' ' | tr -d '[]')

## use the built-in read command to ask you and use the directory for the backup
while [ -z "$BACKUP_DIR" ] ; do
echo
read -e -p $"enter the directory for the backup:" BACKUP_DIR
echo

## chek wether the dir exist and proceed, else create it and proceed.
if [ ! -d "$BACKUP_DIR" ] ; then
echo
echo -n "$BACKUP_DIR does not exist, create it? [Y/n] "
echo
read CREATE_DIR
if [ x"$CREATE_DIR" = xy -o x"$CREATE_DIR" = xY -o -z "$CREATE_DIR" ] ; then
mkdir -p -v "${BACKUP_DIR}"
else
BACKUP_DIR=
fi
fi
done

## here you get prompted to chose the backup you want, you can backup single files or all of them.
echo
echo 'choose the component to backup from the list:'
echo

select howto in kernel splash u-boot u-boot_env rootfs all quit; do
if [ "$howto" == "kernel" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a kernel -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/kernel-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "splash" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a splash -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/splash-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "u-boot" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a u-boot -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/u-boot-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "u-boot_env" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a u-boot_env -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/u-boot_env-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "rootfs" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a rootfs -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/rootfs-${DATE}.jffs2
fi
if [ "$howto" == "quit" ] ; then
exit 0
fi
echo
echo 'the component(s) has/have been backed up, what next? (press enter for menu)'
echo
done

exit 0

</pre>

=== Pretty GUI Script ===

[[NeoTool]] is a zenity-based script which allows you to both backup and Flash your device from a pretty GUI. It uses both the dfu-util method and the alternate method described on this page, and can produce flashable images of everything including rootfs. Check it out.

[[category:Advanced End User]]
[[Category:Flashing Openmoko]]

Backup

2008-08-14T21:36:14Z

Cga: /* Interactive script */

== Backing up just /home/root ==

To backup the home folder (all your files personal files in theory).

From the desktop pc run:

ssh root@phone 'tar -cpz /home/root' > moko-home-`date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S`.tar.gz

Where phone is the ip address of your phone (192.168.0.202).

Personally I added an entry to /etc/hosts so the above works for me. I also added the desktop key to /home/root.ssh/authorized_keys on the phone as per the instructions in [[USB_Networking#SSH_Keys]].

If you want to check what is in the backup, run the following, replacing the filename with what was just created.

tar -tzf moko-home-20080802-203108.tar.gz | less

[http://timwise.wikispaces.com/my+neo+freerunner reference]

== Backing up everything ==

You may either :
* Backup the flash contents, in order to be able to restore (see bellow)
* or move the system to SD to be able to boot it from SD in case of need. See [[Moving current system from flash to SD]]

=== Backing-up flash images ===

You will need the [[Dfu-util]] to make a backup of your existing image.

As when [[Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner|flashing]], you will need to be in [[Booting_the_Neo_FreeRunner#Log_into_U-Boot_in_the_NOR_Flash|U-Boot in the NOR Flash]]. Log into the NOR uBoot menu and select ''Set console to USB'' (for NRF just stay in NOR uBoot menu, do not select or enter anything). Now you will be able to flash, make backups of your Freerunner or query the Freerunner with [[Dfu-util|dfu-util]]. Backup is fairly slow; it took over ten minutes to back up a 247 MB rootfs.

It is important that you connect the USB cable directly from your computer to your phone. If there is a hub between them, backup (and flashing) will mostly likely fail.

{{note|On a Windows host, omit the "./" or "sudo ./" that precedes the commands listed on this page}}

<pre>
sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2
sudo ./dfu-util -a splash -R -U good-splash.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -U good-u-boot.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot_env -R -U good-u-boot_env.bin
</pre>

Here is what a successful dfu-util backup run looks like:

on the host PC:
<pre>
$ sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.img
dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...
Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...
Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0
Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...
Resetting USB...
Opening USB Device...
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=12, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name="kernel"
Claiming USB DFU Interface...
Setting Alternate Setting ...
Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
dfuIDLE, continuing
Transfer Size = 0x1000
Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode
</pre>

on the FreeRunner:
<pre>
DFU: Switching to DFU Mode
DEVICE_CONFIGURED: 1
Starting DFU Upload of partition 'kernel'
</pre>

A failed run of dfu-util looks like this:

dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...
Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...
Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0
Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...
Resetting USB...
Opening USB Device...
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=20, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name="rootfs"
Claiming USB DFU Interface...
Setting Alternate Setting ...
Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
dfuIDLE, continuing
Transfer Size = 0x1000
dfu_upload error -110

And shows errors demsg like this:
usb 5-2: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd dfu-util rqt 161 rq 2 len 4096 ret -110

==Backup Scripts==

If you plan on backing up frequently, using a script will simplify the process:

===Simple backup script===

This script works well if you want to configure it to backup always the same device.

<pre>
#!/bin/sh
#
# Back up all partitions of the phone to a backup directory,
# adding today's date to the saved filenames.

DATE=`date +%Y-%m-%d`
DFU=./dfu-util
BACKUP_DIR=bak/

${DFU} -a kernel -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}kernel-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a rootfs -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}rootfs-${DATE}.jffs2
${DFU} -a splash -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}splash-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a u-boot -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}u-boot-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a u-boot_env -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}u-boot_env-${DATE}.bin
</pre>

===Interactive script===

This script is based on the above "Simple backup script" (by unknown). It does the backup of what you want and choose promting you for choices. Enjoy it! test it! contribute! You can find us at /server irc.freenode.net /j #openmoko and we'll be pleased to accept you help (ideas || code).

NOTE that the script works for me(tm) but it still needs some love. especially on traps and catches for wrong choices.

<pre>
#!/bin/bash

#############################################################################################################
## ##
## This script is Free Software is licensed under the GPLv3 and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY ##
## you can find and read the complete version of the GPLv3 @ http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ##
## ##
## Q: what does this script do? ##
## A: the script back up all partitions of the phone to a backup directory, interactively, ##
## adding today's date to the saved filenames. ##
## ##
## IMPORTANT:!!! REMEMBER TO RUN THIS SCRIPT AS ROOT SINCE dfu-util HAS TO BE USED AS ROOT!!! ##
## ##
## based on the orginal simple backup script at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pre-Flash_Backup ##
## ##
## this version has been conceived and written by cga, x77686d, Infoport, jomat at /server irc.freenode.net##
## /j #openmoko,#bash and my collegue aubba @ work. ##
## ##
## for any suggestions and contributions contact cga (or one of the above) in the #openmoko channel ##
## ##
#############################################################################################################

## let's roll!!

## sets the date format for the date in the backup file, change accordingly to your local custom if you need
DATE=`date +%d-%m-%Y`

## here the scripts try to find the dfu-util binary and set it as the DFU var:
if which dfu-util >/dev/null ; then
echo
echo "dfu-util found in your path"
echo
## 1 the function use this if you placed/linked dfu-util in your $PATH
DFU=dfu-util

elif ls dfu-util >/dev/null ; then
echo
echo "dfu-util found in current directory"
echo
## or 2 use following line if dfu-util is placed in the same directory where you run the script
DFU=./dfu-util

else
## or 3 if the script doesn't find dfu-util shows the link for installing it and exit
echo
echo "dfu-util NOT found! install and use howto @ http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util"
echo
exit 1
fi

## here we get the hex code for devices found with dfu-util --list
## the hex code is grabbed and the name of the device is shown accordingly and you are prompetd to chose the right one:
echo
echo 'these are the devices i found:'
echo
for device in `${DFU} --list | grep 0x | cut -f3 -d' ' | tr -d '[]'` ; do
if [ "$device" == '0x1457:0x5119' ] ; then
echo 'Neo 1973'
elif [ "$device" == '0x1d50:0x5119' ] ; then
echo "Neo Freerunner"
else
echo 'other device found, DO NOT use dfu-util on this!!! it might bork it...'
exit 1
fi
done | nl
echo
echo 'choose the device to backup:'
echo
read selection
HEX=$(${DFU} --list | grep 0x | head -n $selection | tail -1 | cut -f3 -d' ' | tr -d '[]')

## use the built-in read command to ask you and use the directory for the backup
while [ -z "$BACKUP_DIR" ] ; do
echo
read -e -p $"enter the directory for the backup:" BACKUP_DIR
echo

## chek wether the dir exist and proceed, else create it and proceed.
if [ ! -d "$BACKUP_DIR" ] ; then
echo
echo -n "$BACKUP_DIR does not exist, create it? [Y/n] "
echo
read CREATE_DIR
if [ x"$CREATE_DIR" = xy -o x"$CREATE_DIR" = xY -o -z "$CREATE_DIR" ] ; then
mkdir -p -v "${BACKUP_DIR}"
else
BACKUP_DIR=
fi
fi
done

## here you get prompted to chose the backup you want, you can backup single files or all of them.
echo
echo 'choose the component to backup from the list:'
echo

select howto in kernel splash u-boot u-boot_env rootfs all quit; do
if [ "$howto" == "kernel" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a kernel -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/kernel-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "splash" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a splash -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/splash-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "u-boot" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a u-boot -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/u-boot-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "u-boot_env" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a u-boot_env -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/u-boot_env-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "rootfs" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a rootfs -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/rootfs-${DATE}.jffs2
fi
if [ "$howto" == "quit" ] ; then
exit 0
fi
echo
echo 'the component(s) has/have been backed up, what next? (press enter for menu)'
echo
done

exit 0

</pre>
[[category:Guides]]
[[category:Technical]]

Backup

2008-08-14T21:33:26Z

Cga: /* Interactive script based on the previous one */

== Backing up just /home/root ==

To backup the home folder (all your files personal files in theory).

From the desktop pc run:

ssh root@phone 'tar -cpz /home/root' > moko-home-`date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S`.tar.gz

Where phone is the ip address of your phone (192.168.0.202).

Personally I added an entry to /etc/hosts so the above works for me. I also added the desktop key to /home/root.ssh/authorized_keys on the phone as per the instructions in [[USB_Networking#SSH_Keys]].

If you want to check what is in the backup, run the following, replacing the filename with what was just created.

tar -tzf moko-home-20080802-203108.tar.gz | less

[http://timwise.wikispaces.com/my+neo+freerunner reference]

== Backing up everything ==

You may either :
* Backup the flash contents, in order to be able to restore (see bellow)
* or move the system to SD to be able to boot it from SD in case of need. See [[Moving current system from flash to SD]]

=== Backing-up flash images ===

You will need the [[Dfu-util]] to make a backup of your existing image.

As when [[Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner|flashing]], you will need to be in [[Booting_the_Neo_FreeRunner#Log_into_U-Boot_in_the_NOR_Flash|U-Boot in the NOR Flash]]. Log into the NOR uBoot menu and select ''Set console to USB'' (for NRF just stay in NOR uBoot menu, do not select or enter anything). Now you will be able to flash, make backups of your Freerunner or query the Freerunner with [[Dfu-util|dfu-util]]. Backup is fairly slow; it took over ten minutes to back up a 247 MB rootfs.

It is important that you connect the USB cable directly from your computer to your phone. If there is a hub between them, backup (and flashing) will mostly likely fail.

{{note|On a Windows host, omit the "./" or "sudo ./" that precedes the commands listed on this page}}

<pre>
sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2
sudo ./dfu-util -a splash -R -U good-splash.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -U good-u-boot.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot_env -R -U good-u-boot_env.bin
</pre>

Here is what a successful dfu-util backup run looks like:

on the host PC:
<pre>
$ sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.img
dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...
Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...
Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0
Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...
Resetting USB...
Opening USB Device...
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=12, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name="kernel"
Claiming USB DFU Interface...
Setting Alternate Setting ...
Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
dfuIDLE, continuing
Transfer Size = 0x1000
Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode
</pre>

on the FreeRunner:
<pre>
DFU: Switching to DFU Mode
DEVICE_CONFIGURED: 1
Starting DFU Upload of partition 'kernel'
</pre>

A failed run of dfu-util looks like this:

dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...
Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...
Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0
Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...
Resetting USB...
Opening USB Device...
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=20, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name="rootfs"
Claiming USB DFU Interface...
Setting Alternate Setting ...
Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
dfuIDLE, continuing
Transfer Size = 0x1000
dfu_upload error -110

And shows errors demsg like this:
usb 5-2: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd dfu-util rqt 161 rq 2 len 4096 ret -110

==Backup Scripts==

If you plan on backing up frequently, using a script will simplify the process:

===Simple backup script===

This script works well if you want to configure it to backup always the same device.

<pre>
#!/bin/sh
#
# Back up all partitions of the phone to a backup directory,
# adding today's date to the saved filenames.

DATE=`date +%Y-%m-%d`
DFU=./dfu-util
BACKUP_DIR=bak/

${DFU} -a kernel -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}kernel-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a rootfs -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}rootfs-${DATE}.jffs2
${DFU} -a splash -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}splash-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a u-boot -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}u-boot-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a u-boot_env -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}u-boot_env-${DATE}.bin
</pre>

===Interactive script===

This script is based on the above "Simple backup script" (by unknown). It does the backup of what you want and choose promting you for choices. Enjoy it! test it! contribute! You can find us at /server irc.freenode.net /j #openmoko and we'll be pleased to accept you help (ideas || code).

<pre>
#!/bin/bash

#############################################################################################################
## ##
## This script is Free Software is licensed under the GPLv3 and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY ##
## you can find and read the complete version of the GPLv3 @ http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ##
## ##
## Q: what does this script do? ##
## A: the script back up all partitions of the phone to a backup directory, interactively, ##
## adding today's date to the saved filenames. ##
## ##
## IMPORTANT:!!! REMEMBER TO RUN THIS SCRIPT AS ROOT SINCE dfu-util HAS TO BE USED AS ROOT!!! ##
## ##
## based on the orginal simple backup script at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pre-Flash_Backup ##
## ##
## this version has been conceived and written by cga, x77686d, Infoport, jomat at /server irc.freenode.net##
## /j #openmoko,#bash and my collegue aubba @ work. ##
## ##
## for any suggestions and contributions contact cga (or one of the above) in the #openmoko channel ##
## ##
#############################################################################################################

## let's roll!!

## sets the date format for the date in the backup file, change accordingly to your local custom if you need
DATE=`date +%d-%m-%Y`

## here the scripts try to find the dfu-util binary and set it as the DFU var:
if which dfu-util >/dev/null ; then
echo
echo "dfu-util found in your path"
echo
## 1 the function use this if you placed/linked dfu-util in your $PATH
DFU=dfu-util

elif ls dfu-util >/dev/null ; then
echo
echo "dfu-util found in current directory"
echo
## or 2 use following line if dfu-util is placed in the same directory where you run the script
DFU=./dfu-util

else
## or 3 if the script doesn't find dfu-util shows the link for installing it and exit
echo
echo "dfu-util NOT found! install and use howto @ http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util"
echo
exit 1
fi

## here we get the hex code for devices found with dfu-util --list
## the hex code is grabbed and the name of the device is shown accordingly and you are prompetd to chose the right one:
echo
echo 'these are the devices i found:'
echo
for device in `${DFU} --list | grep 0x | cut -f3 -d' ' | tr -d '[]'` ; do
if [ "$device" == '0x1457:0x5119' ] ; then
echo 'Neo 1973'
elif [ "$device" == '0x1d50:0x5119' ] ; then
echo "Neo Freerunner"
else
echo 'other device found, DO NOT use dfu-util on this!!! it might bork it...'
exit 1
fi
done | nl
echo
echo 'choose the device to backup:'
echo
read selection
HEX=$(${DFU} --list | grep 0x | head -n $selection | tail -1 | cut -f3 -d' ' | tr -d '[]')

## use the built-in read command to ask you and use the directory for the backup
while [ -z "$BACKUP_DIR" ] ; do
echo
read -e -p $"enter the directory for the backup:" BACKUP_DIR
echo

## chek wether the dir exist and proceed, else create it and proceed.
if [ ! -d "$BACKUP_DIR" ] ; then
echo
echo -n "$BACKUP_DIR does not exist, create it? [Y/n] "
echo
read CREATE_DIR
if [ x"$CREATE_DIR" = xy -o x"$CREATE_DIR" = xY -o -z "$CREATE_DIR" ] ; then
mkdir -p -v "${BACKUP_DIR}"
else
BACKUP_DIR=
fi
fi
done

## here you get prompted to chose the backup you want, you can backup single files or all of them.
echo
echo 'choose the component to backup from the list:'
echo

select howto in kernel splash u-boot u-boot_env rootfs all quit; do
if [ "$howto" == "kernel" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a kernel -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/kernel-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "splash" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a splash -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/splash-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "u-boot" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a u-boot -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/u-boot-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "u-boot_env" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a u-boot_env -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/u-boot_env-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "rootfs" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a rootfs -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/rootfs-${DATE}.jffs2
fi
if [ "$howto" == "quit" ] ; then
exit 0
fi
echo
echo 'the component(s) has/have been backed up, what next? (press enter for menu)'
echo
done

exit 0

</pre>
[[category:Guides]]
[[category:Technical]]

Backup

2008-08-14T21:32:49Z

Cga: i submitted the script and reviewd the formattin of the page.

== Backing up just /home/root ==

To backup the home folder (all your files personal files in theory).

From the desktop pc run:

ssh root@phone 'tar -cpz /home/root' > moko-home-`date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S`.tar.gz

Where phone is the ip address of your phone (192.168.0.202).

Personally I added an entry to /etc/hosts so the above works for me. I also added the desktop key to /home/root.ssh/authorized_keys on the phone as per the instructions in [[USB_Networking#SSH_Keys]].

If you want to check what is in the backup, run the following, replacing the filename with what was just created.

tar -tzf moko-home-20080802-203108.tar.gz | less

[http://timwise.wikispaces.com/my+neo+freerunner reference]

== Backing up everything ==

You may either :
* Backup the flash contents, in order to be able to restore (see bellow)
* or move the system to SD to be able to boot it from SD in case of need. See [[Moving current system from flash to SD]]

=== Backing-up flash images ===

You will need the [[Dfu-util]] to make a backup of your existing image.

As when [[Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner|flashing]], you will need to be in [[Booting_the_Neo_FreeRunner#Log_into_U-Boot_in_the_NOR_Flash|U-Boot in the NOR Flash]]. Log into the NOR uBoot menu and select ''Set console to USB'' (for NRF just stay in NOR uBoot menu, do not select or enter anything). Now you will be able to flash, make backups of your Freerunner or query the Freerunner with [[Dfu-util|dfu-util]]. Backup is fairly slow; it took over ten minutes to back up a 247 MB rootfs.

It is important that you connect the USB cable directly from your computer to your phone. If there is a hub between them, backup (and flashing) will mostly likely fail.

{{note|On a Windows host, omit the "./" or "sudo ./" that precedes the commands listed on this page}}

<pre>
sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2
sudo ./dfu-util -a splash -R -U good-splash.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -U good-u-boot.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot_env -R -U good-u-boot_env.bin
</pre>

Here is what a successful dfu-util backup run looks like:

on the host PC:
<pre>
$ sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.img
dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...
Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...
Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0
Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...
Resetting USB...
Opening USB Device...
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=12, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name="kernel"
Claiming USB DFU Interface...
Setting Alternate Setting ...
Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
dfuIDLE, continuing
Transfer Size = 0x1000
Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode
</pre>

on the FreeRunner:
<pre>
DFU: Switching to DFU Mode
DEVICE_CONFIGURED: 1
Starting DFU Upload of partition 'kernel'
</pre>

A failed run of dfu-util looks like this:

dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Opening USB Device 0x0000:0x0000...
Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...
Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0
Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...
Resetting USB...
Opening USB Device...
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=20, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name="rootfs"
Claiming USB DFU Interface...
Setting Alternate Setting ...
Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
dfuIDLE, continuing
Transfer Size = 0x1000
dfu_upload error -110

And shows errors demsg like this:
usb 5-2: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd dfu-util rqt 161 rq 2 len 4096 ret -110

==Backup Scripts==

If you plan on backing up frequently, using a script will simplify the process:

===Simple backup script===

This script works well if you want to configure it to backup always the same device.

<pre>
#!/bin/sh
#
# Back up all partitions of the phone to a backup directory,
# adding today's date to the saved filenames.

DATE=`date +%Y-%m-%d`
DFU=./dfu-util
BACKUP_DIR=bak/

${DFU} -a kernel -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}kernel-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a rootfs -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}rootfs-${DATE}.jffs2
${DFU} -a splash -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}splash-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a u-boot -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}u-boot-${DATE}.bin
${DFU} -a u-boot_env -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}u-boot_env-${DATE}.bin
</pre>

===Interactive script based on the previous one===

This script is based on the above "Simple backup script" (by unknown). It does the backup of what you want and choose promting you for choices. Enjoy it! test it! contribute! You can find us at /server irc.freenode.net /j #openmoko and we'll be pleased to accept you help (ideas || code).

<pre>
#!/bin/bash

#############################################################################################################
## ##
## This script is Free Software is licensed under the GPLv3 and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY ##
## you can find and read the complete version of the GPLv3 @ http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ##
## ##
## Q: what does this script do? ##
## A: the script back up all partitions of the phone to a backup directory, interactively, ##
## adding today's date to the saved filenames. ##
## ##
## IMPORTANT:!!! REMEMBER TO RUN THIS SCRIPT AS ROOT SINCE dfu-util HAS TO BE USED AS ROOT!!! ##
## ##
## based on the orginal simple backup script at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pre-Flash_Backup ##
## ##
## this version has been conceived and written by cga, x77686d, Infoport, jomat at /server irc.freenode.net##
## /j #openmoko,#bash and my collegue aubba @ work. ##
## ##
## for any suggestions and contributions contact cga (or one of the above) in the #openmoko channel ##
## ##
#############################################################################################################

## let's roll!!

## sets the date format for the date in the backup file, change accordingly to your local custom if you need
DATE=`date +%d-%m-%Y`

## here the scripts try to find the dfu-util binary and set it as the DFU var:
if which dfu-util >/dev/null ; then
echo
echo "dfu-util found in your path"
echo
## 1 the function use this if you placed/linked dfu-util in your $PATH
DFU=dfu-util

elif ls dfu-util >/dev/null ; then
echo
echo "dfu-util found in current directory"
echo
## or 2 use following line if dfu-util is placed in the same directory where you run the script
DFU=./dfu-util

else
## or 3 if the script doesn't find dfu-util shows the link for installing it and exit
echo
echo "dfu-util NOT found! install and use howto @ http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util"
echo
exit 1
fi

## here we get the hex code for devices found with dfu-util --list
## the hex code is grabbed and the name of the device is shown accordingly and you are prompetd to chose the right one:
echo
echo 'these are the devices i found:'
echo
for device in `${DFU} --list | grep 0x | cut -f3 -d' ' | tr -d '[]'` ; do
if [ "$device" == '0x1457:0x5119' ] ; then
echo 'Neo 1973'
elif [ "$device" == '0x1d50:0x5119' ] ; then
echo "Neo Freerunner"
else
echo 'other device found, DO NOT use dfu-util on this!!! it might bork it...'
exit 1
fi
done | nl
echo
echo 'choose the device to backup:'
echo
read selection
HEX=$(${DFU} --list | grep 0x | head -n $selection | tail -1 | cut -f3 -d' ' | tr -d '[]')

## use the built-in read command to ask you and use the directory for the backup
while [ -z "$BACKUP_DIR" ] ; do
echo
read -e -p $"enter the directory for the backup:" BACKUP_DIR
echo

## chek wether the dir exist and proceed, else create it and proceed.
if [ ! -d "$BACKUP_DIR" ] ; then
echo
echo -n "$BACKUP_DIR does not exist, create it? [Y/n] "
echo
read CREATE_DIR
if [ x"$CREATE_DIR" = xy -o x"$CREATE_DIR" = xY -o -z "$CREATE_DIR" ] ; then
mkdir -p -v "${BACKUP_DIR}"
else
BACKUP_DIR=
fi
fi
done

## here you get prompted to chose the backup you want, you can backup single files or all of them.
echo
echo 'choose the component to backup from the list:'
echo

select howto in kernel splash u-boot u-boot_env rootfs all quit; do
if [ "$howto" == "kernel" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a kernel -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/kernel-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "splash" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a splash -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/splash-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "u-boot" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a u-boot -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/u-boot-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "u-boot_env" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a u-boot_env -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/u-boot_env-${DATE}.bin
fi
if [ "$howto" == "rootfs" -o "$howto" == "all" ] ; then
${DFU} -d ${HEX} -a rootfs -R -U ${BACKUP_DIR}/rootfs-${DATE}.jffs2
fi
if [ "$howto" == "quit" ] ; then
exit 0
fi
echo
echo 'the component(s) has/have been backed up, what next? (press enter for menu)'
echo
done

exit 0

</pre>
[[category:Guides]]
[[category:Technical]]

Qtopia / Qt Extended on FreeRunner

2008-08-08T22:34:05Z

Cga: /* Current status */

This page provides instructions on how to install Qtopia (proper, not the [[ASU]] or [[QtopiaOnX11]] efforts) on the GTA02 (Freerunner) phone. It is similar to the [[Qtopia on Neo1973]] page.

{|align=right
|__TOC__
|}

== Current status ==
On 08 August 2008, Qtopia released the [http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=77 latest flash image for the FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02)] containing the Qtopia 4.3.2 snapshot (Version: 4.3.2-080808) of 08 August 2008 (GPL version).

This image can successfully make and receive calls and text messages. It can read all contacts from the SIM card (which the updated 2007.2 does not appear to be able to do). It contains apps that appear to be more stable than the ones found in the 2007.2 image. It has multiple input methods that appear to be more mature. It does not, however, have a web browser or a GPS application.

You can find all the Qtopia iamges [http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 here]

== Option 1: Flashing Qtopia to FreeRunner ==

Download the image mentioned above and follow the instructions here: [[Flashing the Neo FreeRunner]]

== Option 2: Dual-Booting between Qtopia and 2007.2 (Qtopia boots from MicroSD card) ==

Installation Requirements:

# SSH shell access to 2007.2 based image of the FreeRunner through USB interface or WLAN.
# A Desktop Linux distro (to unpack the .jffs2 image, I ran Ubuntu under VMWare)

=== Preparing the SD card ===

See the [[Booting from SD#Prepare the SD card| Preparing the SD Card]] section of the [[Booting from SD]] page for partitioning and formatting instructions.

=== Installing Qtopia ===

==== Unpacking the Qtopia Root Filesystem Image ====

Download the Qtopia FLASH image from [[Latest Images#Qtopia image from qtopia.net]] to your Linux box and extract its contents:

tar xzf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-*.tgz

You should now have two files:
#uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin
#qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.jffs2
Now extract the root file system from the jffs2 using the commands found [[Userspace root image#Mounting the JFFS2 image on a loop back device (Block Memory MTD Emulation) |here]].

Now, tar up the root filesystem:

tar czf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz -C <mountpoint> .

Where ''<mountpoint>'' is the location where the jff2 filesystem was mounted.

==== Installing Root Filesystem ====

Transfer this compressed tarball to the second partition of the MicroSD that is mounted on the FreeRunner:

scp qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz root@192.168.0.202:/media/mmcblk0p2/

Log in to your FreeRunner and unpack the root filesystem:

cd /media/mmcblk0p2
tar xzf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz
rm qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz
rm -f /media/mmcblk0p2/boot/*

'''''Note:''''' the last step removes the kernel image from the second partition. For some reason, U-Boot cannot find the uImage.bin file in the first partition if a kernel image exists in the second partition boot/ directory.

==== Installing Kernel ====

From your Linux box, rename uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin to uImage.bin and copy it to the boot/ on the first partition of the MicroSD card.

{{note|There are reports that the kernel image sometimes does not work from the /boot directory. If this is the case for you, try moving the kernel image into the root of the microSD card, ie: /media/card instead of /media/card/boot. This is probably dependent on the version of U-Boot installed. It also doesn't hurt, seeing as there is room on the first partition, to simply have uImage.bin in both locations.}}

mv uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin uImage.bin
scp uImage.bin root@192.168.0.202:/media/card/boot/
scp uImage.bin root@192.168.0.202:/media/card/

=== Option 3: updating from source ===

{{note|This will upgrade only opt/Qtopia directory, you should use opkg update/upgrade for the rest}}
Original Qtopia images (the distribution released by Trolltech, not ASU) are rarely released as a rootfs image, but the source code is often updated. If you want to reflash your OM with the latest version of Qtopia you might build it from sources. This has been explained in [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/024785.html this thread] of the community mailing list. Summing up:

* get the latest toolchain released by trolltech: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=38
* unzip it on your PC in / (as root)
* get the latest snapshot from trolltech: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/
* once dowloaded untar it
tar xvzf qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080806.tar.gz
* make a "build" dir
mkdir build
cd build
* configure and make:
../qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080806/configure -device ficgta01
make
This will take some time (couple hours). Note that the option "-device ficgta01" should work for both neo and freerunner. Then:

make install

will make a root directory into build directory. That directory should be copied to /opt/Qtopia of your phone with scp. once done restart qpe or whole phone.

=== Booting into Qtopia ===

Now shutdown the FreeRunner

shutdown -h now

Log into U-Boot in the NOR Flash to boot from the MicroSD card: (instructions from [[Booting the Neo FreeRunner]])

* Press and hold Power button
* Then while still pressing the Power button, press and hold AUX button for 5 to 8 seconds.
* A boot menu will appear.
* Press the AUX button to select "[[Boot from sd card|Boot from MicroSD]]" and then press the Power button to execute.

Qtopia should now boot.

'''''Note:''''' you may get a kernel panic which says that "optional features not supported". If this is the case, boot back into 2007.2 and run

umount /dev/mmcblk0p2
fsck.ext3.e2fsprogs /dev/mmcblk0p2

This will clean up the file system and clear recovery flags in ext3 that ext2 does not support, then try booting from the MicroSD again.

[[Category:Distributions]]
[[Category:Qtopia]]

Qtopia / Qt Extended on FreeRunner

2008-08-08T22:32:38Z

Cga: /* Current status */

This page provides instructions on how to install Qtopia (proper, not the [[ASU]] or [[QtopiaOnX11]] efforts) on the GTA02 (Freerunner) phone. It is similar to the [[Qtopia on Neo1973]] page.

{|align=right
|__TOC__
|}

== Current status ==
On 08 August 2008, Qtopia released the [http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=77 latest flash image for the FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02)] containing the Qtopia 4.3.2 snapshot (Version: 4.3.2-080808) of 08 August 2008 (GPL version).

This image can successfully make and receive calls and text messages. It can read all contacts from the SIM card (which the updated 2007.2 does not appear to be able to do). It contains apps that appear to be more stable than the ones found in the 2007.2 image. It has multiple input methods that appear to be more mature. It does not, however, have a web browser or a GPS application.

== Option 1: Flashing Qtopia to FreeRunner ==

Download the image mentioned above and follow the instructions here: [[Flashing the Neo FreeRunner]]

== Option 2: Dual-Booting between Qtopia and 2007.2 (Qtopia boots from MicroSD card) ==

Installation Requirements:

# SSH shell access to 2007.2 based image of the FreeRunner through USB interface or WLAN.
# A Desktop Linux distro (to unpack the .jffs2 image, I ran Ubuntu under VMWare)

=== Preparing the SD card ===

See the [[Booting from SD#Prepare the SD card| Preparing the SD Card]] section of the [[Booting from SD]] page for partitioning and formatting instructions.

=== Installing Qtopia ===

==== Unpacking the Qtopia Root Filesystem Image ====

Download the Qtopia FLASH image from [[Latest Images#Qtopia image from qtopia.net]] to your Linux box and extract its contents:

tar xzf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-*.tgz

You should now have two files:
#uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin
#qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.jffs2
Now extract the root file system from the jffs2 using the commands found [[Userspace root image#Mounting the JFFS2 image on a loop back device (Block Memory MTD Emulation) |here]].

Now, tar up the root filesystem:

tar czf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz -C <mountpoint> .

Where ''<mountpoint>'' is the location where the jff2 filesystem was mounted.

==== Installing Root Filesystem ====

Transfer this compressed tarball to the second partition of the MicroSD that is mounted on the FreeRunner:

scp qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz root@192.168.0.202:/media/mmcblk0p2/

Log in to your FreeRunner and unpack the root filesystem:

cd /media/mmcblk0p2
tar xzf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz
rm qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz
rm -f /media/mmcblk0p2/boot/*

'''''Note:''''' the last step removes the kernel image from the second partition. For some reason, U-Boot cannot find the uImage.bin file in the first partition if a kernel image exists in the second partition boot/ directory.

==== Installing Kernel ====

From your Linux box, rename uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin to uImage.bin and copy it to the boot/ on the first partition of the MicroSD card.

{{note|There are reports that the kernel image sometimes does not work from the /boot directory. If this is the case for you, try moving the kernel image into the root of the microSD card, ie: /media/card instead of /media/card/boot. This is probably dependent on the version of U-Boot installed. It also doesn't hurt, seeing as there is room on the first partition, to simply have uImage.bin in both locations.}}

mv uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin uImage.bin
scp uImage.bin root@192.168.0.202:/media/card/boot/
scp uImage.bin root@192.168.0.202:/media/card/

=== Option 3: updating from source ===

{{note|This will upgrade only opt/Qtopia directory, you should use opkg update/upgrade for the rest}}
Original Qtopia images (the distribution released by Trolltech, not ASU) are rarely released as a rootfs image, but the source code is often updated. If you want to reflash your OM with the latest version of Qtopia you might build it from sources. This has been explained in [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/024785.html this thread] of the community mailing list. Summing up:

* get the latest toolchain released by trolltech: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=38
* unzip it on your PC in / (as root)
* get the latest snapshot from trolltech: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/
* once dowloaded untar it
tar xvzf qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080806.tar.gz
* make a "build" dir
mkdir build
cd build
* configure and make:
../qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080806/configure -device ficgta01
make
This will take some time (couple hours). Note that the option "-device ficgta01" should work for both neo and freerunner. Then:

make install

will make a root directory into build directory. That directory should be copied to /opt/Qtopia of your phone with scp. once done restart qpe or whole phone.

=== Booting into Qtopia ===

Now shutdown the FreeRunner

shutdown -h now

Log into U-Boot in the NOR Flash to boot from the MicroSD card: (instructions from [[Booting the Neo FreeRunner]])

* Press and hold Power button
* Then while still pressing the Power button, press and hold AUX button for 5 to 8 seconds.
* A boot menu will appear.
* Press the AUX button to select "[[Boot from sd card|Boot from MicroSD]]" and then press the Power button to execute.

Qtopia should now boot.

'''''Note:''''' you may get a kernel panic which says that "optional features not supported". If this is the case, boot back into 2007.2 and run

umount /dev/mmcblk0p2
fsck.ext3.e2fsprogs /dev/mmcblk0p2

This will clean up the file system and clear recovery flags in ext3 that ext2 does not support, then try booting from the MicroSD again.

[[Category:Distributions]]
[[Category:Qtopia]]

Qtopia / Qt Extended on FreeRunner

2008-08-08T22:32:07Z

Cga: /* Current status */

This page provides instructions on how to install Qtopia (proper, not the [[ASU]] or [[QtopiaOnX11]] efforts) on the GTA02 (Freerunner) phone. It is similar to the [[Qtopia on Neo1973]] page.

{|align=right
|__TOC__
|}

== Current status ==
On 18 July 2008, Qtopia released the [http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=77 latest flash image for the FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02)] containing the Qtopia 4.3.2 snapshot (Version: 4.3.2-080808) of 08 August 2008 (GPL version).

This image can successfully make and receive calls and text messages. It can read all contacts from the SIM card (which the updated 2007.2 does not appear to be able to do). It contains apps that appear to be more stable than the ones found in the 2007.2 image. It has multiple input methods that appear to be more mature. It does not, however, have a web browser or a GPS application.

== Option 1: Flashing Qtopia to FreeRunner ==

Download the image mentioned above and follow the instructions here: [[Flashing the Neo FreeRunner]]

== Option 2: Dual-Booting between Qtopia and 2007.2 (Qtopia boots from MicroSD card) ==

Installation Requirements:

# SSH shell access to 2007.2 based image of the FreeRunner through USB interface or WLAN.
# A Desktop Linux distro (to unpack the .jffs2 image, I ran Ubuntu under VMWare)

=== Preparing the SD card ===

See the [[Booting from SD#Prepare the SD card| Preparing the SD Card]] section of the [[Booting from SD]] page for partitioning and formatting instructions.

=== Installing Qtopia ===

==== Unpacking the Qtopia Root Filesystem Image ====

Download the Qtopia FLASH image from [[Latest Images#Qtopia image from qtopia.net]] to your Linux box and extract its contents:

tar xzf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-*.tgz

You should now have two files:
#uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin
#qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.jffs2
Now extract the root file system from the jffs2 using the commands found [[Userspace root image#Mounting the JFFS2 image on a loop back device (Block Memory MTD Emulation) |here]].

Now, tar up the root filesystem:

tar czf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz -C <mountpoint> .

Where ''<mountpoint>'' is the location where the jff2 filesystem was mounted.

==== Installing Root Filesystem ====

Transfer this compressed tarball to the second partition of the MicroSD that is mounted on the FreeRunner:

scp qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz root@192.168.0.202:/media/mmcblk0p2/

Log in to your FreeRunner and unpack the root filesystem:

cd /media/mmcblk0p2
tar xzf qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz
rm qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-07172049.tar.gz
rm -f /media/mmcblk0p2/boot/*

'''''Note:''''' the last step removes the kernel image from the second partition. For some reason, U-Boot cannot find the uImage.bin file in the first partition if a kernel image exists in the second partition boot/ directory.

==== Installing Kernel ====

From your Linux box, rename uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin to uImage.bin and copy it to the boot/ on the first partition of the MicroSD card.

{{note|There are reports that the kernel image sometimes does not work from the /boot directory. If this is the case for you, try moving the kernel image into the root of the microSD card, ie: /media/card instead of /media/card/boot. This is probably dependent on the version of U-Boot installed. It also doesn't hurt, seeing as there is room on the first partition, to simply have uImage.bin in both locations.}}

mv uImage-2.6.24+git18+9c058ff0d2641df3c36fc3300acb72078d2c41d4-r0-om-gta02.bin uImage.bin
scp uImage.bin root@192.168.0.202:/media/card/boot/
scp uImage.bin root@192.168.0.202:/media/card/

=== Option 3: updating from source ===

{{note|This will upgrade only opt/Qtopia directory, you should use opkg update/upgrade for the rest}}
Original Qtopia images (the distribution released by Trolltech, not ASU) are rarely released as a rootfs image, but the source code is often updated. If you want to reflash your OM with the latest version of Qtopia you might build it from sources. This has been explained in [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/024785.html this thread] of the community mailing list. Summing up:

* get the latest toolchain released by trolltech: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=38
* unzip it on your PC in / (as root)
* get the latest snapshot from trolltech: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/
* once dowloaded untar it
tar xvzf qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080806.tar.gz
* make a "build" dir
mkdir build
cd build
* configure and make:
../qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080806/configure -device ficgta01
make
This will take some time (couple hours). Note that the option "-device ficgta01" should work for both neo and freerunner. Then:

make install

will make a root directory into build directory. That directory should be copied to /opt/Qtopia of your phone with scp. once done restart qpe or whole phone.

=== Booting into Qtopia ===

Now shutdown the FreeRunner

shutdown -h now

Log into U-Boot in the NOR Flash to boot from the MicroSD card: (instructions from [[Booting the Neo FreeRunner]])

* Press and hold Power button
* Then while still pressing the Power button, press and hold AUX button for 5 to 8 seconds.
* A boot menu will appear.
* Press the AUX button to select "[[Boot from sd card|Boot from MicroSD]]" and then press the Power button to execute.

Qtopia should now boot.

'''''Note:''''' you may get a kernel panic which says that "optional features not supported". If this is the case, boot back into 2007.2 and run

umount /dev/mmcblk0p2
fsck.ext3.e2fsprogs /dev/mmcblk0p2

This will clean up the file system and clear recovery flags in ext3 that ext2 does not support, then try booting from the MicroSD again.

[[Category:Distributions]]
[[Category:Qtopia]]

Switching Keyboards on Om 2007.2

2008-08-03T19:22:18Z

Cga: /* Fix Default */

==Fix Default==

Due to a bug, the default keyboard supplied on the 2007.2 doesn't allow you to enter the "/" or "\" characters, which should be on the same key (0?) as "+".
You can instead add these characters to other keys, in this example ">" and "/" are added to the 1 key.
The | character may also be useful.
Edit <tt>/etc/multitap-pad/im-multipress.conf</tt>:

[keys]
KP_0 = +;=;/;\\
KP_1 = .;,;/;>;-;?;!;@;:;(;)
KP_2 = a;b;c;2
KP_3 = d;e;f;3
KP_4 = g;h;i;4
KP_5 = j;k;l;5
KP_6 = m;n;o;6
KP_7 = p;q;r;s;7
KP_8 = t;u;v;8
KP_9 = w;x;y;z;9
KP_10 = A;B;C;2
KP_11 = D;E;F;3
KP_12 = G;H;I;4
KP_13 = J;K;L;5
KP_14 = M;N;O;6
KP_15 = P;Q;R;S;7
KP_16 = T;U;V;8
KP_17 = W;X;Y;Z;9

The buggy key is <tt>KP_0</tt> in the above file.

The ; character is also missing. You can add this character by adding ;\; to any of the lines above.

==Matchbox keyboard==

Another keyboard is available: matchbox-keyboard. It is a full QWERTY keyboard. This howto is based on a blog entry which can be found [http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15 here]

===What does the keyboard look like?===

[[Image:Complete_QWERTY_Keyboard_On_The_Freerunner_screenshot.png|none|thumb|260px|Screenshot of the keyboard applet]]

===Considerations===

Pros:
* All keys can be generated
* Takes up less space than the keypad (multitap-pad), leaving more space for the application

Cons:
* You pretty much have to use a stylus. With difficulty you can hit keys with the corner of a fingernail.

===How to install it?===

If you use a ScaredyCat release (http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/), use the following:

opkg remove -force-depends multitap-pad
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-im
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-applet

Otherwise, you'll have to download the ipk files from [http://www.ginguppin.de/files/keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2 here]. Assuming you have a working internet connection on your Freerunner, you can do the following:

cd /tmp
mkdir matchbox-keyboard
cd matchbox-keyboard
wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2
tar -jxf keyboard-ipk.tar.bz2
opkg remove -force-depends multitap-pad
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod*.ipk
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-im*.ipk
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-applet*.ipk
cd ..
rm -rf matchbox-keyboard

After that you'll have to restart the X server:
/etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart

===How to add a keyboard toggle button===

To add a button to enable showing / hiding the keyboard, edit <tt>/etc/matchbox/session</tt>. In the list of applets after <tt>--end-applets</tt>, add <tt>keyboard</tt>, and restart your X server

===How to switch between matchbox-keyboard and multitap-pad===

If you want to keep the multitap keyboard, but also be able to start up the matchbox-keyboard, you can follow these ugly instructions:

First you must install matchbox-keyboard.
opkg install matchbox-keyboard

Do the following (from the terminal or an ssh session with DISPLAY=:0.0):
killall multitap-pad
matchbox-keyboard > /dev/null 2>&1 &

(If you type the above commands with multitap, you have to leave off the redirection of matchbox-keyboard output, since several of the keys you need are missing.)

Caveats: When you start the matchbox-keyboard, it stays up all the time. This will (among other things) prevent you from unlocking, since the keyboard covers the openmoko logo at the bottom of the lock screen. You will need to:
# nohup multitap-pad -d &
# killall matchbox-keyboard
to close it down, and at least get the matchbox keyboard going again. You should do that any time you're going to leave the neo alone for any length of time, so you can unlock it later.

To make sure you don't end up removing all your keyboard input capability, you can create a new .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ for starting and closing the keyboard. This is pretty easy to do by copying and editing an existing .desktop file.

==Switch back to the original Openmoko keypad==

If you for whatever reason need to switch back, here are the steps:
opkg remove matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod matchbox-keyboard-im matchbox-keyboard-applet
opkg install multitap-pad

Comment or delete the following lines in /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules :
#"/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/libmb-im-invoker.so"
#"matchbox-im-invoker" "Virtual Keyboard" "" "" "*"

Now restart the xserver:
/etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart

[[Category:Openmoko]]
[[Category:Technical]]

Group sales

2008-06-27T11:23:35Z

Cga: /* Milano e dintorni */

Openmoko have announced a scheme to sell the forthcoming Neo Freerunner at a discount if bought in multiples of 10 (US$369, instead of 399), to be shipped in one package. Group buying will thus save money on the purchase, and on the shipping. This page is to to organise group purchases by region.

For calculating shipping costs, the dimensions of one 10-pack is 435mm x 371mm x 119mm. The weight should be around 3kg.

Steve from Openmoko announced "Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets."
So join us within a local group !

<div style='float:right'>__TOC__</div>

== [[Group Sales Australia| Australia ]]==

== Austria ==
There is a group-buy page at MetaLab, available here: http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko .. we almost have the full 10 slots assigned, and its quite possible that we will order *20* phones, so please register on the Metalab pages and let us know if you're interested ..

=== Salzburg ===
Status: 1/10

* D. Kepplinger (at MetaLab)

=== Wien ===
Status: 2/10
* M. Greifeneder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mikegr Contact me here]
* J. Vaughan (torpor) -- http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/torpor Contact me here]

=== Styria ===
==== Graz ====
Group 1: Status: 10/10

* F Hackenberger [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Deadman66 Contact me here]
* J Florineth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Flojoh Contact me here]
* G Michelitsch [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/graf_ithaka Contact me here]
* R Stoegbuchner [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/stoero Contact me here]
* M Lipp [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Neldoreth Contact me here]
* M Maier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/species Contact me here]
* M Konrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/konni Contact me here]
* K Krammer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krake Contact me here]
* M Prokop [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mika Contact me here]
* C Lauermann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cms Contact me here]

Group 2: Status: 3/10
* S Simmer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/StefanS Contact me here]
* K Holler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kho Contact me here]
* St Stampler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/stst Contact me here]

== Belgium ==
=== Brussels ===
Status 5/10
* npettiaux [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Npettiaux Contact me here]
* jwarnier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jwarnier Contact me here]
* mvanderdonck [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nicodache Contact me here]
* lpirotte [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lpirotte Contact me here]
* Ciaran [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ciaran Contact me here]

=== Flanders ===
==== Aalst/Aarschot/Gent/Brugge ====
Status 7/10
* XVens, mailto: xavier DOT vens AT gmail DOT com
* Arno85, mailto: aaron DOT helin AT gmail DOT com, Kortrijk

* Yvo Brasseur, mailto: yvo_brasseur AT archon DOT be Living in Aarschot, working in Brussels.
* Emmanuel Mathot, mailto: aiieeee DOT gmail DOT com, Brussels
* Kamil Kubacki, mailto: kamil DOT kubacki AT gmail DOT com [or kamil.kubacki@gmail.com]
* 2x Hans Vanpée, mailto: hans AT vanpee DOT be

ps: Dolfje think it will be cheaper to buy it from pulster.de. Can anyone confirm?

Confirmation: From Pulster.eu:

Our sales price is 299 EUR. The idea of "open" is ours. So check our price calculation: if you order the Freerunner from Taiwan, it's 399 USD + 100 USD shipping + c. 90 USD "import taxes" inside Europe. Total 589 USD = c.380 EUR.

So it will be cheaper and we Europeans have 2 years of warranty when buying from Pulster, instead of a 14 days(?) for imported goods.
You can read all advantages on pulster.eu

==== Antwerp ====
Status 10/10

* michielv [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Michielv Contact me here]
* Peter N [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubsy Contact me here]
* Ivo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ivo Contact me here]
* Peter Leemans, mailto: peter AT x-tend DOT be
* Richard B [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/richardb Contact me here]
* Jeroen Van Goey [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BioGeek Contact me here]
* Jeroen D [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jeroendoggen Contact me here]
* Diego Garcia, mailto: didac.garcia AT gmail DOT com
* Sam Geeraerts (Laakdal) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Samgee Contact me here]
* Stefaan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Stefaan Contact me here]

Status 1/10
* Jove [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jove Contact me here] I would like a developer board too.

Perhaps if we have a few more users, we can redistribute the groups geographically?

=== Wallonia ===
==== Walloon Brabant ====
Status: 1/10
* Istvan, mailto: buki DOT istvan AT gmail DOT com

== Bulgaria ==
=== Sofia ===
==== Sofia ====
Status : 7/10

* Dimitar Staykov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OpenMitko Contact]
* Vernim, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vernim Contact]
* Geo, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/geomer Contact]
* Iceman, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ice Contact], 30 May 2008
* jdivanov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jdivanov Contact], 16 June 2008
* luchoh, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/luchoh Contact], 26 June 2008
* nninov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nninov Contact], 26 June 2008

== Canada ==

=== British Columbia ===
Status : 12/10

* Justin (Vancouver): mailto: stryderjzw AT gmail
* Dave (Vancouver) Vancouver Linux users group (unconfirmed but about 7 so far): mailto: doc AT skynet REMOVE dot REMOVE ie
* Steven (Victoria) - If someone in the group will remail the package for me. mailto: skurylo --> gmail dot com
* Morley (Victoria) - If someone in the group will mail to the island. mailto:morleyw@gmail.com
* Robert (Vancouver) - robtaylor <AT> tinsputnik <DOT> com (1 unit)
* Jeff (Vancouver) - jef dot jef gmail com

'''Group 2'''

Status: 3/10

* Ben Cadieux (Abbotsford & Vancouver) - ben [DOT] cadieux <AT> gmail [DOT] com
* Kelvie Wong (Vancouver, in Richmond) - kelvie (over at) ieee (period) org (one)
* Doug (Vancouver) - illusion65 at gmail (1 + debug)

=== Alberta ===
Status : 9/10

* [[User:Wuth|Wuth]] : [mailto:wuth@acm.org]
* [[User:Slm3095om|stacy]] (2 units) : slm3095om AT millions dOt ca
* [[User:Abnormal|Morgan]] : [mailto:lightningperf@hotmail.com]
* [[User:picosrfr|Will]] : [mailto:will.siddall@gmail.com]
* [[User:Dewey|Dewey]] (Calgary) : [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dewey Contact me here]
* [[User:Shadowwolf|Vince]] (Red Deer) : 1 Unit + 1 Debug board [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Shadowwolf Get a hold of me here]
* [[User:Deanb2|Dean]] (Calgary) : [mailto:deanb@gbtn.net]
* [[User:jimb|jim b]] (Edmonton) : [mailto:callonjim@gmail.com][http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jimb mokomail]

=== Ontario/Quebec ===
==== GTA (Toronto) ====
Status : 10/10

* Gerald A [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Historybuff Contact me here]
* MattC, mailto: quirkz AT gmail
* Sergey K, openmoko AT deeptown dOt org
* Daniel Lister, gmail(dan.lister)
* Ronnie Wong: '''3 units''' - r25wong AT ryerson dOT ca
* Paul V [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Roju Contact me here]
* Matt Manjos, matt (AT) manjos * com
* Steven O'Reilly, soreilly AT walled DOT net

Group 2 Status (Hamilton): 6/10

* Gabriel D - ace AT staticwave DOT ca
* Richard D - rtdegelder --> gmail.com
* Steve S - ssinger_pg AT sympatico dot ca
* Wolfram Kahl - kahl McMaster CA
* Paul Wouters - paul@xelerance.com '''1 units'''
* John Hurley - nybble at eml dot cc

Group 3 Status (Montréal): 2/10
* Patrick Hétu - patrick AT koumbit DOT org
* Eric Lebel - lebeleri AT aei DOT ca

== Chile ==
=== Santiago ===
Status : 5/10

* [[User:Mankeke]] Ricardo Manríquez C., mailto: ricardo.manriquez "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
* [[User:XKnightmareX]] Gonzalo Pesenti., mailto: mare.knight1 "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
* [[User:Freyes]] Felipe Reyes., mailto: felipereyes "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com
* [[User:crsepulv]] Cristian Sepúlveda, mailto: sepulveda.cristian@gmail.com
* [[User:nischg]] Nicolás Schubert, mailto: nischg@gmail.com

== China ==
=== BeiJing ===
Status:10/10
*Luther mailto:lutherluo@qq.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.
*Gnosy mailto:gnosyhh@gmail.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.
*Bin Zong mailto:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com 1 Freerunner MSN:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com
*Lee zaixin mailto:shqlzx@126.com 1 Freerunner 
*Zhuwei mailto:grissom_zhu@139.com MSN:wyh0310@hotmail.com 1 Freerunner 
*zhaojun mailto:zhaojun1631@163.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug board
*Benoit Begue mailto:snk4ever@gmail.com 1 freerunner
*Tristan mailto:0x5478(at)gmail.com MSN:liu_bei_bei(at)hotmail.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.
*Lalo mailto:lalo.martins@gmail.com 1 freerunner
*Lu Kuo Email and MSN: koreylu#hotmail.com (substitute @ for # please) 1 freerunner and 1 debug board

Status:1/10
*Hong Zhiyi mailto: zhiyi.hong@gmail.com 1 freerunner

=== ShangHai ===
Status:3/10
 
* Pajda, info on my [[User:Pajda|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Pajda|contact me here]]. 1 x freerunner
* ChandleWEi mailto:chandle.wei@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board
* YxunLan mailto:dennis.yxun@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board

=== Guangzhou ===
Status:1/10
*Geoffrey mailto:dghfalcon@gmail.com 1 freerunner and 1 debug borad.

== Colombia ==
=== Bogotá ===
Status: 2/10
* Javier Rojas. Phone and debug board. mailto:jerojasro@gmail.com 
* Gustavo Andrés Angulo. Phone and debug board. mailto:woakas@gmail.com 

== Denmark ==
If we do not reach a total large enough, Denmark **is** a very small place - surely we could figure out a way of getting them to find their way 'round the country :)

=== Jutland ===
==== Aalborg ====
Status: 7/10

Should anyone need it, transportation from Aalborg to Thisted for phones can be arranged, if you don't want to pick it up in Aalborg yourself :) ~leinir

As it looks right now, it seems that it would be cheaper and easier for us to buy through Pulster in Germany - see the following email: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017778.html ~leinir

* Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen mailto:admin@leinir.dk [[User:Leinir]]
* Fabian Olesen mailto:firewalkerx@gmail.com
* Helge Willum Larsen mailto:helge.at.helges.dk
* Kristian Lindemann Larsen (2 stk) mailto:walker@pandia.dk
* Brian Olsen mailto:downloader@pandia.dk
* Henrik Odder Jensen mailto:herakles@pandia.dk

==== Aarhus ====
Status: 3/10

* Kent S. Knudsen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Forestmountain contact me here] - [[User:Forestmountain]] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)
* Lars Jensen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/el_senator contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)
* Martin Pedersen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cheeses contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)

==== Skjern ====
Status: 1/10

* [[User:Carlo]]

==== Sønderborg ====
Status: 1/10

* Theis Hjorth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Theis.hjorth contact me here] (1 phone + 1 devkit) 

=== Fyn ===
Status: 5/10
(Unnless others join Esben and Peter will join the Copenhagen order and Peter will pick up the phones for Fyn in Copenhagen)

* [[User:EsbenDamgaard]] (need 3 (Looney & Gert))
* [[User:apm]] (need 1 with invoice - can pick up in Copenhagen)
* [[User:LarsOPoulsen | Lars Poulsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LarsOPoulsen (contact)] (1 phone)

=== Sjælland ===
==== Copenhagen ====
Status: 29/10 (34 including the 5 for Fyn - see above)

* [[User:jrcarlsen | Johnny Rose Carlsen]] (+45) 28 14 60 04 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jrcarlsen (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:Fursund]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fursund (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:tabac | Thomas Ammitzbøll-Bach ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tabac (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:chel | Christian E. Lysel ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chel (contact)] 1 phone
* [[User:UlrikRasmussen | Ulrik Rasmussen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/UlrikRasmussen (contact)] (1)
* [[User:KlaymenDK | Jan Gundtofte-Bruun]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KlaymenDK (contact)] (Pending final hw, eg. low-power LEDs)
* [[User:OleTange | Ole Tange]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OleTange (contact)] (I need 14 with invoice)
* [[User:Pascal | Pascal d'Hermilly]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pascal (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice)
* [[User:maha | Martin Hansen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/maha (contact)] (3 with invoice)
* [[User:SvenneK | Svenne Krap ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/SvenneK (contact)] (1+devkit with invoice)
* [[User:bss | Bo Stendal Sørensen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bss (contact)] (1)
* [[User:Glenn | Glenn Møller-Holst]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Glenn (contact)] (2 freerunners + debug board, +invoice)
* [[User:knmeister | Kristian Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/knmeister (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice)
* [[User:Sir_Gallivant | Henrik Jordahn]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sir_Gallivant (contact)] (I need one, probably one more later)
* [[User:hammerfar | Henrik Hammer Berthelsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hammerfar (contact)] (2 with invoice)

== Estonia ==
=== Tallinn ===
Let's see if we can get ten people together for this. I'm willing to organise the local distribution if we can. Spread the word and try to get more locals interested in it. [[User:Yogiz|Yogiz]] 08:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Status 2/10

* [[User:Yogiz | Yogiz]] ([mailto:yogizz@gmail.com contact]) 1 phone
* [[User:Zooter | Zooter]] ([mailto:zooter@hot.ee contact]) 1 phone

== Finland ==
=== Uusimaa ===
Note to gta02v6 waiting people:"The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT
LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption". So, no problem? Also a quote from [[Neo FreeRunner GTA02 Hardware#GTA02v6]]: "Capacitor and resistor change A6 also on mass production A5".

==== Helsinki I (Full)====
Status : 10/10

* Mikko Rauhala x2 [mailto:mjr@iki.fi mjr@iki.fi]
* Aleksi Hankalahti [mailto:aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi]
* Seppo Hätönen [mailto:karrde@iki.fi karrde@iki.fi]
* Arttu Sund thearttu AT gmail DOT com
* Ville-Pekka Vainio vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi
* Heikki Hallamaa [mailto:heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi]
* Tomi Jylhä-Ollila tomi.jylha-ollila@helsinki.fi
* Richard Braakman
* Timo Jyrinki [mailto:timo.jyrinki@iki.fi timo.jyrinki@iki.fi]

==== Helsinki II, Turku & Vaasa====

[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Rhk DISCUSS HERE]

Tilauksen saa ottaa hoitaakseen kuka tahansa tilaajista, rhk ei ole ainakaan vielä sitoutunut hoitamaan!

Jos tätä & lapin tilausta ei saada täyteen voinee Lapin ryhmästä siirtyä osa tähän tilaukseen?

Status : 7/10

Helsinki:

* Risto H. Kurppa risto AT kurppa DOT fi
* Aapo Rantalainen aapo DOT rantalainen AT gmail DOT com
* Matti Laakso matti DOT laakso AT kotiposti DOT net
* Ilari Oras ilari DOT oras AT welho DOT com
* Jussi Kekkonen tmt AT ubuntu DOT com

Turku:

* Jaakko Lehtinen, jaakko dot lehtinen at gmail dot com

Vaasa:

* Mikko Niemikorpi, mikefulli ÄT gmail PISTE com

=== Lappi ===
==== Kemi ====
Status : 3/10

'''[[User:Cg|Discuss the order here]]'''

Kemi:
* Henri Valta henri PISTE valta ÄT kemi PISTE fi
* Tommi Juvonen tassi ÄT mediapumppu PISTE info
* Jaakko Pörhö ensteinfrank ÄT hotmail PISTE com

== France ==
=== Bretagne ===
==== Brest ====
Status : 1/10

* StevenLeRoux [mailto:steven@pourri.fr steven@pourri.fr] Jabber_Id:Steven@jabber.fr
* Acheteur potentiel #2

==== Rennes ====
Status : 3/10

* Cédric DUFOUIL (openmoko at tsleg point com)
* Yves MAHE (ymahe at zindep dot com)
* Guillaume BERTHELOM (yogui29 at gmail dot com)

=== Pays de la Loire ===
==== La Roche sur Yon ====
Status : 1/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vtouchar Vincent Touchard]

==== Nantes ====
Status : 3/10
* [[User:Yoann|Yoann ARNAUD]]. OK for a ship in Rennes if needed. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Yoann Contact me here]
* [[User:sim51|Benoît SIMARD]]. Idem [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sim51 Contact me here]
* [[User:salim|Salim BOULKOUR]]. Rennes would be ok as well...[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/salim Contact me here]

=== Nord ===

=== Ile de france ===
==== Paris ====
Status : 25/30

* StevenLeRoux
* <s>[[User:Phyce|Phyce]]</s> (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')
* Yann SLADEK ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Maveryck Contact me here])
* [[User:Wilk|Wilk]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wilk Contact me here]
* Jonathan Magano ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JonathanMM Contact me here])
* Benjamin Renard (bn8[AT]zionetrix.net)
* [[User:OlivierBerger|OlivierBerger]]
* [[User:BartGS|BartGS]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BartGS Contact me here]
* [[User:rcoscali|Rémi Cohen-Scali]]
* [[User:Valos|Valéry Febvre]]
* [[User:Manou|Emmanuel Raviart]]
* Le Troll Farceur ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LeTrollFarceur Contact me here])
* [[User:mshook|Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer]]
* [[User:LoicMinier|Loïc Minier]]
* [[User:chansen|Cyril Hansen]]
* [[User:hbernard|hugues]]
* Titilambert ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/titilambert Contact me here])
* [[User:Raphux|Raphux]]([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Raphux Contact me here])
* [[User:tuXXX|Damien Thébault]] (Contact me [[User:tuXXX|here]] or [[Special:Emailuser/tuXXX|here]])
* [[User:kkum|Kumar]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/kkum|here]])
* Gand' ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gand' Contact me here])
* [[User:Sporniket|David SPORN]]
* [[User:Bedo|Bedo]]
* [[User:Ainulindale|Julien Cassignol]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/Ainulindale|here]])
* [[User:Theocrite|Theocrite]]
* [[User:Gui82|Gui82]]
You may also see :
http://bearstech.com/shop

=== Lorraine ===
==== Nancy ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:mosan|Nicolas Salles]]

=== Rhône-Alpes ===
==== Lyon ====
Status : 2/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/patou Vincent MEURISSE]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pini Gilles FILIPPINI]

==== Grenoble ====
Status : 4/10

* <s>[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbollard Philippe]</s> (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aurelien Aurelien]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Hey_popey Damien]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/swap38 Johann]

=== Alpes de Haute Provence ===
==== Manosque ====
Status : 1/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cfdev Cyril]

=== Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur ===
==== Sophia Antipolis ====
Status : 4/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nico.inc Nicolas HUOT]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xavier_OM Xavier CREMASCHI]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasile Vasile Jureschi]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Herve5 Hervé Sainct]

=== Midi-Pyrénées ===
==== Toulouse ====

Status: 2/10

* [[Special:Emailuser/Ortalo|Ortalo]]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Micktaiwan Mickael Faivre-Maçon]

== Germany ==
=== Baden-Württemberg ===
==== Karlsruhe ====

* [[Special:Emailuser/Spacemarine|Spacemarine]] 2 Freerunner. -- I'm managing the communication between the groupbuyers, so please contact me if you are interested and haven't received an email from me yet. We will meet at the Kalug Meeting http://www.karlsruhe.linux.de/ on 26. 5. 2008 to discuss things further.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Dr.Nop|Dr.Nop]] (inzw. Ludwigsburg, falls es sich anbietet könnte ich auch zur Leonberger Gruppe wechseln)
* [[Special:Emailuser/JensB|JensB]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Tedo|Tedo]]

* [[Special:Emailuser/Gromgull|Gromgull]] (in Kaiserslautern, but Karlsruhe is close enough, and I doubt that I'll find 10 people here.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Ebi|Ebi]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/RIdd3r|Fabian]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Gollum|Gollum]] in Mannheim, ditto :) Maybe local postal service is an option?
* [[Special:Emailuser/Archimedes|Sebastian]] (in Kaiserslautern on workdays and Daun/Eifel during the weekend)
* [[Special:Emailuser/Roduit|Roduit]] In Heidelberg. Karlsruhe is close enough.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Cfo|cfo]] Karlsruhe
* [[Special:Emailuser/Adonres|Adonres]] Karlsruhe - Hope I'm not too late.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Nomeata|Nomeata]] is interested

==== Leonberg ====
Status 10/10
* [[Special:Emailuser/ZaPPaS|ZaPPaS]] about 8 Freerunners.
* [[Special:Emailuser/Cc|Cc]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Agon|Agon]] Maybe 1 Freerunner.

==== Tübingen ====
Status 7/10
* [[Special:Emailuser/MiTo|MiTo]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/NoBody|NoBody]] close to tuebingen and stuttgart (between both)
* [[Special:Emailuser/eliasp|eliasp]] (3 Freerunner (me, qknight + sbock) - Tübingen downtown
* [[Special:Emailuser/nobs|nobs]] thinking about buying one; if I am #10, count me in; if there is someone else #11 you can drop me
* [[Special:Emailuser/marjay|marjay]] take also one (Dettingen/Erms)

==== Ulm ====
Status: 2/10
* [[Special:Emailuser/mzanetti|mzanetti]]
* [[Special:Emailuser/Lord_Evil|Lord_Evil]] ich nehm auch eins. Evtl. kann ich mich auch an Augsburg anhängen.

=== Bayern ===

==== Augsburg ====

Status 5/10
I just want to see if there are enough people to fill up to ten. So add your name here if you are interested.

*[[Special:Emailuser/Whoever|whoever]] - Ich nehm eins, wenn die Münchner keines übrig haben.
*[[Special:Emailuser/paddy2706|paddy2706]] - Ein OpenMoko bitte :)
----
*[[Special:Emailuser/Nightmare|Nightmare]] - Ich will es doch lieber beim Händler kaufen mit voller Garantie (pulster.de bietet es für 299 Euro an)

Wann werden die dann bestellt/gezahlt? Dauert bei mir no kurz bis ichs Geld für zusammen hab aber dann nehm ich eins.
MfG [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MookiE MookiE]

Hallo, ich würde mich für einen Freerunner interessieren. Wie sieht es mit Zoll aus? Kommt der noch dazu?
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Murks Murks]

$3690 (10 Freerunner)
+ $ 160 (Versand lt. Australiern)
=======
$3850

$3850
+ $ 732 (19% Einfuhrumsatzsteuer)
+ $ 0 (kein Zoll für Handys)
=======
$4582

$458 / 1,5$/€ = 305 € pro Telefon (als Richtwert)

==== München ====

Wir suchen noch einen Organisator für die Bestellung! Weiß jemand, was man so alles beachten muss?

'''Diskussion auf der [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup Seite]]!'''

Hilf mit, eine [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup]] aufzubauen!

Status 14/20

* [[Special:Emailuser/Imitation|Imitation]] 30 April 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/meyerm|meyerm]] 16:25 CEST, 01. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/Koebi|koebi]] 05. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/wof|wof]] (2) 07. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/floe|floe]] 10. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/mathew muc|mathew muc]] 12. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/einalex|einalex]] 13. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/smurfy|smurfy]] 18. Mai 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/Whoever|whoever]] 02. Juni 2008 (München oder Augsburg, ich mach bei der Gruppe mit, die mir als erste ein Freerunner "garantiert")
* [[Special:Emailuser/Beni|Beni]] 05. Juni 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/Nosyjoe|Nosyjoe]] 08. Juni 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/peter_b|peter_b]] needs 2 Freerunner 16. Juni 2008
* [[Special:Emailuser/calestyo|Cálestyo]] 2008-06-23
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* [[Special:Emailuser/Eriks|Eriks]] Unfortunately I have to sign me off. So somebody else has to arrange it. I'm really sorry about that. :-(

=== Berlin===
==== Berlin ====

Help to form a [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Berlin|Berlin User Group]]!

Status 15/20
* Stephan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Fischel Contact me here]
* Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Thebohemian Contact me here]
* Nico [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Nico Contact me here]
* Bastian [[User:Fries43]]
* Sven-Ola [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Sven-ola Contact]
* Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:arnepp Contact me here]
* MM [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:MM Contact]
* Keks [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Keksdosenmann Contact]
* Matthias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:mk Contact]
* Norbert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Noha Contact]
* Joscha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Joka Contact]
* Janne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Janne Contact]
* Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Robx Contact]
* Conrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Caribu Contact me here]
* govindas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:govindas Contact me here]

=== Bremen ===
==== Bremen ====
Status 3/10
* Gero Mudersbach [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gero Contact me here]
* Hartje Bruns [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrBurns Contact me here]
* Timo Scheffler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Faldrian Contact me here]

==== Bremerhaven ====

=== Hamburg ===
==== Hamburg ====
Status 9-10

* Jan 4-5[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jan07 Contact me here]
* Varacanero [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/varacanero Contact me here]
* Ole 3-5 pcs [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Olemoko Contact me here]
* Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/GuraX Contact me here]
* Arne.anka 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Arne.anka Contact me here]
* Wasili Goutas 1pc + debug adapter [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Laki Contact me here]
* mimbeck 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mimbeck Contact me here]
* savi 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savi Contact me here]

=== Hessen ===
==== Frankfurt ====
Status 1-10

* Blacky [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Blacky Contact me here]

=== Niedersachsen===
==== Hannover====
Status 2/10

* Dattel83 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dattel83 Contact me here]
* [[User:Ditto|Ditto]] contact me via [[Special:Emailuser/Ditto|e-mail form]] (If we don't get enough orders maybe we should join with [[GroupSales#Bielefeld|Bielefeld]] or another town close by)

=== NRW ===
==== Aachen ====
Status 4/10
* Henrik, infos on my [[User:Henrikz|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Henrikz|contact me here]]
* David, infos on my [[User:TechnoFan|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/TechnoFan|contact me here]]
* Stephan, infos on my [[User:chaq|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/chaq|contact me here]]
* Michael, infos on my [[User:knut|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/knut|contact me here]]

==== Bielefeld ====
Status 4/10

* David, infos on my [[User:Raven|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Raven|contact me here]]
* Sebastian, infos on my [[User:Seppi|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Seppi|contact me here]]
* Dackel, infos on my [[User:Killerdackel|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Killerdackel|contact me here]]
* Conny
* Arndt, infos on my [[User:Arndot|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Arndot|contact me here]]

==== Bocholt ====
===== (Fachhochschule in Bocholt) =====
* 1 x adslex
* 1 x dg [[Special:Emailuser/dg|contact me here]]

==== Düsseldorf ====
* mac2k, infos on my [[User:mac2k|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/mac2k|contact me here]]

=== Sachsen-Anhalt ===
==== Stendal (evtl. Magdeburg) ====
Status 1/10

* Fabian Off [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fabian2de Contact me here]

=== Thueringen ===
==== Weimar ====
Status 1/10

* [[User:Fries43]]

==== Ilmenau ====
Status 1/10

* [[User:KimKiesel]]

=== Sachsen ===
Eventuell sollten wir eine gemeinsame Bestellung für ganz Sachsen machen, damit wir auf ausreichend Leute kommen.

==== Chemnitz ====
Status 2/10

* Tobias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tobydox Contact me here]
* Michael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/her Contact me here]
==== Dresden ====
Status 1/10

* Martin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nodge Contact me here]

==== Leipzig ====
Status 4/10

* Natanael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/white_gecko Contact me here] (+2)
* Micha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Adian Contact me here]

== Hungary ==
Good to know:
*discussion here: http://hup.hu/node/54588
*mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-groupsales-hungary
*group ordering coordinator: Dániel Vásárhelyi (see below) - please contact me on any questions

ordering rules:
* anyone can add and remove him/herself on the list - new names MUST be _appended_ to the list
* please use real name and working e-mail address
* although this list is informative, please extend it _only_ if you are really serious about ordering it
* coordinator contacts everyone interested prior to actual buying

=== Budapest ===

# Ferenc 'Lion' Veres [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kempelen Contact] lion kukac netngine pont hu
# Laszlo 'rka' Szabo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rka Contact]
# tg [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tg?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Contact]
# LiRul - lirul [KUKAC] hixsplit [PONT] hu
# Nyosigomboc - nyos [KUKAC] nyos [PONT] homelinux [PONT] net
# Ludvig Adam - hunludvig [KUKAC] gmail [PONT] com
# [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asdmin?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Dániel 'asd' Vásárhelyi]
# btamas, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/btamas Contact]
# Kovács 'ka87' András, andras [kukac] csevego [pont] net
# pcm, pcm [kukac] freemail [pont] hu
# Geza Piros, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gpiros Contact]
# Áron Preisinger, appa00 [kukac] gmail [pont] com [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/appa Contact]
# pierre286, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pierre286 Contact]
# Hélei Zoltán, heleiz [kukac] gmail
# Radics Áron, raron @ vipmail . hu
# Laszlo Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]
# tr3w [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tr3w Contact]
# Ferenc Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]
# Bolyóczki Zsombor, mogorva kukac tuxworx pont hu
# Sütő Zoltán, suto dot zoltan at t dash online dot hu
# Zsolt Pittmann, pittmann dot zsolt at gmail dot com
# KREKACS Laszlo, laszlo {pont} krekacs {pont} list {kukacka} gmail {pont} com
# Móker Tamás - rwind [KUKAC] apacheweb [PONT] hu
# Krisztián Kovács, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Krisztian Contact]
# Tamas Michalik, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dotmind Contact]
# Peter Roosz, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rope Contact]
# Eduard Iacoboaia, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Polaru Contact]
# László Vadász, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lvadasz Contact]
# Attila Lendvai, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/attila.lendvai Contact]
# Thomas Otterbein [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tommi Contact]

=== Kecskemét ===
Dániel Vásárhelyi handles transportation to Kecskemét, therefore it is not necessary to collect 10 all pieces here.

== India ==
=== Bangalore ===
Status 1/10
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sh4r4d sharad]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gadiyar Anand Gadiyar]

=== Delhi/NCR ===
Status 2/10
* Sameer Mohamed Thahir [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sameerthahir Contact]
* Pratul Kalia (lut4rp) ''pratulkalia [at] gmail [dot] com''

== Italy ==
For more informations and to organize groups, visit the
*[http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''''Italian Freerunner Group Sales Google Group'''''] (ML/Web/Feeds) ([mailto:freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com]).

'''BUT please keep adding your name and email to the list below'''

If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the "most requested city", and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the "double-shipping". ([http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/10937/focus=10981 Read here for reference]).

=== Toscana ===
==== Firenze (e dintorni) ====
Status 12/10

* [[User:Treviño|Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]] - [http://blog.3v1n0.net/contatti-trevino/ Contacts here]
* [[User:Niccolo|Niccolo Rigacci]] - ''niccolo [AT] rigacci.org''
* [[User:pcav|Paolo Cavallini]] - ''cavallini [AT] faunalia.it''
* [[User:BiggMatt|Mattia Gentile]] - ''biggmatt@hotmail.it''
* Elisa ''[mailto:lab@kkk.it lab@kkk.it]'' (Empoli)
* [[User:Sugacapra|Sugacapra]] - ''alessio.chemeri [AT] gmail.com''
* [[User:tom_morello|Carlo Ascani (Morello)]] - ''carlo.ratm [AT] gmail.com''
* [[User:marrano|Stefano Burchietti (Marrano)]] - ''stefano [AT] nontelodiromai.it''
* [[User:Geli86|Matteo Gelimeri X 2 (Imola - Bologna)]] - ''gelimatteo [AT] gmail.com''
* [[User:dcoppa|David Coppa (Borgo a Buggiano, Pistoia)]] - ''dcoppa@gmail.com''
* [[User:Panthack|Dario Panthack Pantani (Pontedera - Pisa)]] - ''panthack2 [AT] tiscali.it''

=== Lombardia ===

==== Milano e dintorni ====
Status 25/30

[[GroupSales_Milano_e_dintorni|Organizzazione preliminare]] DEPRECATA lì 11 Maggio 2008.

Da ora in poi usiamo il [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''].

Ad ogni modo, per stabilire le precedenze nella prenotazione dei pacchi da 10 pezzi 
'''continuate ad aggiugerVi nella lista qui sotto'''

*'''Gruppo 1'''
*# Marcello Gorla [mailto:marcello.gorla@gmail.com Contacts here] (Milano città)
*# Maxxer [mailto:maxxer@yetopen.it maxxer@yetopen.it] (Lecco)
*# Pietro Montorfano [mailto:monto84@gmail.com monto84@gmail.com] (from como)
*# Gianluigi Belli - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pulciux Contacts here] (Milano)
*# Michele Castellano - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mubumba Contacts here] (Milano)
*# Maurizio Lipreri - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Maldido Contacts here]( Como )
*# Guido Conaldi - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/skepz Contacts here] (Varese)
*# [[User:Furester|Igor Scabini (furester)]] - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Furester Contacts here] (Milano)
*# Dario Panico [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dareus Contacts here] (Busto Arsizio, VA)
*# Marco Zanzotera (Milano città)

*'''Gruppo 2'''
*# Francesco Ricci (Milano, Dipartimento di Scienze dell'Informazione, via Comelico 39/41) - possibile punto di ricezione/distribuzione - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Alfa21 Contacts here]
*# Federico Belvisi - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Armalite Contacts here] (Legnano, MI/Varese)
*# Francesco Leserri - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Francy Contacts here] (Vimercate, MI)
*# [[User:Pietrao| Pietro Isotti]] - [mailto:isottipietro@gmail.com isottipietro@gmail.com]
*# Baz - [mailto:buzzi.paolo@gmail.com buzzi.paolo@gmail.com]
*# Mario Signorino ('''2 unità''') ([[User:Dodiesis|Dodiesis]])- [mailto:mario@sgrunt.net mario@sgrunt.net] (Milano - possibile punto di ricezione alternativo )
*# [[user:Stemby|Carlo Stemberger]] (Stemby) - '''carlo'''dot'''stemberger'''at'''gmail'''dot'''com''' (Missaglia, LC)
*# Marco Crobu - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tron.tron Contacts here] (Zogno, BG)
*# Maurizio [[User:Trizio!|"Trizio!"]] Ciceri (Novara)

*Gruppo 3 - incompleto
*# Gianluca [mailto:cimi.luca@gmail.com Contacts here] (Lugano-CH)
*# Matteo Tarantino [mailto:matteo.tarantino@gmail.com Contacts here] (Milano città)
*# Jacopo [mailto:jacopo.anselmi@gmail.com] (Milano Citta')
*# david josè giovannini (green.riot AT gmail DOT com) [Arona - Lake Major]

=== Piemonte ===
==== Torino (and province) ====
Status 10/10

Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Torino)

Precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale 
*'''Gruppo 1''' (prime persone a fare l'ordine): 
1 x Claudio Carnino (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Alessandro Degano (a.degano AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Enrico Pigozzi (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here] 
1 x Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com) 
1 x Riccardo Issoglio (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it) 
1 x Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here] 
1 x Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it ) 
2 x Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!! 
 
*'''Gruppo 2''' (coloro che non ci stanno nel primo gruppo o che vogliono aspettare che il primo gruppo abbia ricevuto il telefono): 
1 x Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com ) 
1 x Marco Forasacco (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Gabriele Martino (pierino DOT the DOT living DOT joke AT gmail DOT com) 
1 x Massimo Valerio (my AT massimovalerio DOT it) 
... 
(aggiungersi chi è nuovo) 
 

-------------------------------------
LISTA ORIGINALE (24/05/08 14:48):
* Claudio Carnino (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)
* Alessandro Degano (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)
* Enrico Pigozzi (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)
* Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here]
* Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)
* Riccardo Issoglio (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)
* Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here]
* Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )
* Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!
* Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com )
* Marco Forasacco (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)
* Gabriele Martino (pierino DOT the DOT living DOT joke AT gmail DOT com)
* Massimo Valerio (my AT massimovalerio DOT it)
--------------------------------------

=== Trentino-Alto Adige ===
==== Trento ====
Status 3/10

* Vincenzo D'Andrea (vincenzo.dandrea AT gmail DOT com) (also Verona is OK - and I can carry others' phone VR to TN or viceversa)
* Emanuele Olivetti (emanuele CHIOCCIOLA relativita PUNTO com)
* Marco Ciampa (ciampix (*) libero (*) it)

=== Friuli Venezia Giulia ===
==== Trieste ====
Status: 1/10

* dorje [mailto:dorje@libero.it dorje@libero.it] - [[User:dorje|dorje]]

=== Veneto ===
Status: 14/20

==== Verona ====

* Persegat [mailto:persegat@alice.it persegat@alice.it] - [[User:Pecce|Pecce]]
* Sylar91 [mailto:sylar1991@gmail.com sylar1991@gmail.com] - [[User:Sylar91|Sylar91]]
* Marco Franceschetti - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vonfritz Contacts here]
* AleksFalcone [mailto:aleks.falcone@gmail.com aleks.falcone@gmail.com] - [[User:AleksFalcone|AleksFalcone]]
* Roberto Previdi [mailto:hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com] - [[User:hariseldon78|hariseldon78]] (also Milano is ok)

==== Vicenza ====

* Michele [mailto:michele@cooperativabiosphaera.it michele(at)cooperativabiosphaera.it] - Also Padova is okay.

* Paolo [mailto:paolo.sartore@gmail.com paolo.sartore(at)gmail.com] Also Padova is okay.

* Renato [mailto:wasgiventofly@gmail.com wasgiventofly AT gmail DOT com] 

* Sandro [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vigerty contact me here] Also Padova is okay.

* Marco [mailto:marco.napetti@linux.it marco.napetti(at)linux.it] Also Padova and Verona are ok.

==== Venezia ====

* Tommaso [mailto:tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com] - [[User:Tobarello|Tobarello]] Also Padova, Vicenza & Trento are ok.

==== Treviso ====

* Dario [mailto:aliasbrain@gmail.com aliasbrain(at)gmail.com] - [[User:Rastafan|Rastafan]] one, maybe two.

* Pedro [mailto:paguilar@junkerhq.net paguilar(at)junkerhq.net] - [[User:Paguilar|Paguilar]] Also Padova and Vicenza are ok.

* mr [mailto:maurizio.rottin@gmail.com maurizio.rottin a-t gmail d-o-t com] - [[User:Mr|Mr]] one for sure, maybe two

=== Emilia Romagna ===
Status : 6/10
==== Parma ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Delian|Marco Albanese]] [mailto:delian2@gmail.com delian2@gmail.com] For Me, it's ok for the decentralized shipment ( Milano for example :) ).

* [[User:Hachreak|Leonardo Rossi]] ssj3gokou AT libero Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.

==== Ravenna ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Fano|Stefano Ronconi]] fanharlok AT libero Dot it decentralized shipping is ok.
* vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...). ( se ti vanno bene ambo le citta' basta dirlo tra parentesi. Cosi', si fa confusione :) )

==== Bologna ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:nixy_999|Lorenzo]] nixy_999 AT yahoo Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.
* vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...).
* [[User:lord.of.the.dimm|Mauro]] lord.of.the.dimm AT gmail DOT com decentralized shipping: OK.

=== Puglia ===
==== Lecce ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Morpheus90|Morpheus90]] [mailto:ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com]
* [[User:Italyanker|italyanker]] [mailto:italyanker@gmail.com italyanker@gmail.com]

==== Bari ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Fradeve11|Fradeve11]] [mailto:fradeve@ubuntu-it.org fradeve@ubuntu-it.org]

=== Abruzzo ===
==== Pescara ====
Status: 1/10

* ZarZ [mailto:zarz25@gmail.com zarz25@gmail.com]

=== Campania ===
==== Caserta (and province) ====
Status 1/10

* fenoxxx [mailto:fenoxxx@gmail.com] - Aversa

=== Lazio ===
==== Roma ====
Status 10/10

Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Roma)

La precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale 

Gruppo 1 (incompleto): 

* Hire X 2 [mailto:hiretto@gmail.com hiretto@gmail.com] (Roma)
* Darkbasic X 1 [mailto:darkbasic4(at)gmail darkbasic4(at)gmail] (Ancona)
* zione X 1 [mailto:alessio.filipponio@gmail.com alessio.filipponio@gmail.com](Roma)
* AntoMan X 1 [mailto:obe_65@yahoo.it AntoMan](Roma)
* Christian X 1(Gino46) [mailto:christian.marzola@alice.it] (ferrara) Qualcuno me lo dovrebbe spedire. || Ci pensa Hire a spedirli a chi non è di Roma, mettete semplicemente in conto 8/9 euro in più per la spedizione.
* Tempix X 1 [mailto:tempix11@gmail.com tempix11@gmail.com] (Ancona)
* 6xsempre X 1 [mailto:6xsempre@jumpy.it] (frosinone)
* lynx1673 X1 [mailto: acarfi at yahoo dot com] - lynx sei di Roma?
* zullinux X1 [mailto: francesco dot zuliani at gmail dot com] (Roma)

=== Liguria ===
==== Genova ====
Status 5/10

* Luca Maranzano X 1 (liuk AT linux DOT it) [[User:liuk|liuk]]
* Lorenzo Fornara X 1 (fw1987 AT hotmail DOT it)
* Stefano Cutelle' X 1 (staff@ascservices.it) [[User:ascservices|ascservices]]
* Andrea De Gaetano X 1 (dega1999 AT gmail DOT com) [[User:Dega1999|Dega1999]]
* Salvo Schiavone X 1 (salvoschiavone AT gmail DOT com [[User:Salvador|Salvador]]

=== Sicilia ===
==== Palermo ====
Status 10/10

* Giorgio Marciano' X 1 [mailto:giorgio.marciano@email.it giorgio]
* Michele Puccio X 1 [mailto:narkos@iol.it michele]
* Roberto Calandra X 1 [mailto:isokazi@yahoo.it roberto]
* Vincenzo Moreno Luna X 6 [mailto:ciop85plus@hotmail.com vincenzo]
* Daniele Lupo X 1 [mailto:danwolf80@libero.it daniele]

==== Messina ====
Status 6/10

* Melug X 6 [mailto:suuuper@messinalug.org MeLug]

=== Calabria ===
Status 2/10

==== Catanzaro ====
* Carlo Mangani X 1 [mailto:carlo.mangani@gmail.com carlo.mangani@gmail.com] - Lamezia Terme

==== Cosenza ====
* Francesco Portus X 1 [mailto:portusgraphics@gmail.com portusgraphics@gmail.com] - Bisignano (Cosenza)

=== Sardegna ===
==== Cagliari ====
Status 1/10

* Panta x 1 [[User:Panta]]
Viaggio per tutta l'Isola, per cui, nel caso in cui arrivassimo a 10 utenti...

== Macedonia ==
=== Skopje ===
Status 1/10
* Kristijan Krsteski 1/10 [[User:neutrino]] [mailto:kristijan.krsteski@gmail.com]

== México ==
=== Ciudad de México ===
Status 1/10

* Kozapatista [[Special:Emailuser/User:kozapatista|Contact]]

=== Ciudad Victoria ===
Status 3/10

* 3x Gregorio Toscano [mailto:gtoscano@cinvestav.mx email]

== [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands The Netherlands] ==
(Discuss this group sale on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands talk page])

* Marijn Kruisselbrink 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mkruisselbrink|Contact]]
* Andy Powell 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ScaredyCat|Contact]]
* Arjan Veenstra 1/10 [[User:AVee]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:AVee|Contact]]

=== Gelderland ===

==== Nijmegen ====
* [[User:Blalien|Danny Bouwman]] (Ewijk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Blalien|Contact]]

==== Nijkerk ====
* [[User:Nicolas|Nico Veenkamp]] (Nijkerk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Nicolas|Contact]]

==== Nijmegen ====
* [[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] (Nijmegen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:A.dre|Contact]]

=== Groningen ===

==== Haren ====
* [[User:akrabbe|Albert Krabbe]] (Haren 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:akrabbe|Contact]]

=== Limburg ===

==== Griendtsveen ====
* [[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] (Griendtsveen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:KenSentMe|Contact]]

=== Noord-Brabant ===

==== Bergen op Zoom ====
* [[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Madjo|Contact]]

==== Eindhoven ====
* Christ van Willegen 1 [[User:ChristW]]
* Jan van Nijnatten 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Javany|Contact]]
* Atilla Filiz 1 + debug board[[Special:Emailuser/User:Atilla|Contact]]

=== Noord Holland ===

==== Amsterdam ====
* Michel van Horssen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mivaho|Contact]]
* Frank Richter 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:res|Contact]]
* Eric Smith 1/10 [[User:Eric Smith]]
* Buddy Baars 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Budster|Contact]]

==== Beverwijk ====
* Theo Martens 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:T_M|Contact]]

==== Bussum ====
* Remco van Zuijlen 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:Remco|Contact]]

=== Overijssel ===

==== Deventer ====
* Jan de Haan 1/10 [[User:Jan de Haan]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:Jan de Haan|Contact]]

==== Enschede ====
* Peter Hageman 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:PingPong|Contact]]

==== Hengelo ====
* Sander Hoentjen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Tjikkun|Contact]]

==== Zwolle ====
* Boudewijn 1/10 [[User:Boudewijn|empty user page]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:Boudewijn|Contact]]; possibly got a second person interested

=== Zuid-Holland ===

==== Rijswijk ====
* Fernando Martins 1x [[User:fmartins]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:fmartins|Contact]]
* Igor 1x [[User:igorn]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:igorn|Contact]]

==== Zoetermeer ====
* S.Rademaker 1x [[User:S.rademaker]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:S.rademaker|Contact]]

==== Rotterdam ====
* Reinout van Schouwen [[User:reinouts]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:reinouts|Contact]]

=== Utrecht ===

==== Utrecht ====
* Eric Spierings 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ericsp|Contact]]
* Peter van de Werken 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:PWerken|Contact]]
* Kenny van Wanrooij 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:kenneth|Contact]]
* Eduard Goudakov 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:VreVo|Contact]]

=== Status ===
30/30

== New Zealand ==
===Networks===
As Telecom are using the 850MHz network for their GSM network, and Vodafone/northelia (possibly aka orcon) are using 900/1800MHz, please state which version you want. This may need more research, I'm not 100%; see [http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml] for more info 

===Shipping===
Based on info from steve (openmoko marketing) concerning weight and size, shipping via UPS will be about US$185 (NZ$24 each phone) to Auckland. 
UPS are far from the cheapest, but (again according to steve), OM have a contract with them, so this is what we are stuck with 

Someone on the community list suggested using [http://www.myus.com], a shipping company that will re-post items overseas at decent rates. They claim US$66 for a 3kg package, or NZ$8 per phone. Of course, the cost of shipping the phone from OM to the shipping company has to be added in as well.

===Purchase cost===
As of 2008-06-21, US$369 is worth NZ$484

===Duty/taxes/other charges===
import duty on mobile phones is 0%[http://www.customs.govt.nz/importers/Private+Importers/Customs+Charges.htm], and GST is 12.5% so the GST added to each phone will be NZ$64; 12.5% * (484 + 24), cos we pay GST on postage too...

So, the total cost of a Freerunner as part of a 10 pack, will be: 
484 + 24 + 64 
= '''NZ$572''' 

+ any possible charges to get it posted elsewhere in New Zealand

You'll also need to add on disbursement fees etc. If it's UPS it's not too bad (~NZ$40) if it comes through NZ Post then it can be ~NZ$120.

'''[http://nicegear.co.nz nicegear]''' may be bringing some in depending on pricing from OpenMoko.

=== Auckland ===
==== [[Auckland group sales|Auckland]] ====
Status:10 phones requested, the required minimum (10 phones) is reached, but more buyers are still welcome to join. 
13/20 
=====Intermediary=====
Glen ogilvie made a suggestion, that we could use a company (e.g. someone's employer, who are likely to have easily found contact details and thus be trustworthy) to buy the phones on our behalf (after we'd paid for them), and then deliver them to us. 
any volunteers? do any of you have understanding bosses/your own company that could help out here? 
Dave Lane: I think '''[http://egressive.com Egressive]''' would be willing to act as an intermediary. Contact me to discuss it... 

=== Purchaser List ===
*Rob Paulson [[User:Myfanwy]] [mailto:robin.paulson@gmail.com] 900MHz
**i'm quite happy to organise the purchase, if no-one has any objections. to ease any worries about me running off with the money, we could use an escrow service such as [http://safetrader.co.nz], or paypal. or does anyone have any other ideas?
*Simon Wells [[User:Swel024]] 900MHz
*Jeremy List [[User:Jeremy-list]] mailto:quick.dudley@gmail.com (Wellington, not Auckland, will pay for courier) 900MHz
*David Murrell [[User:Viddy]] - [mailto:dmurrell@waikato.ac.nz] I'm in Hamilton, either courier, or I'll drive up :) 900MHz
*Jeremy Gray [[User:Bogdan237]] [mailto:jgra163@ec.auckland.ac.nz] Auckland, 900MHz
*Xuân Baldauf [[User:xbaldauf]] [mailto:xuan--2008.05--GroupSales--wiki.openmoko.org@baldauf.org] Auckland CBD, 900MHz+1800MHz GSM with an [http://www.ak2.com.tw/pd_main.asp?sg_id=11 '''EU''' charger clip] instead of an Australian one (if this is in need to be selected). This is conditional: the transaction must complete by 2008-06-30, else I cannot participate, because I'm leaving the country afterwards.
*Paul Roe [[User:Par08]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Par08 contact me here] Christchurch, 2 x 900MHz
*Dave Lane [[User:dangerpossum]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dangerpossum contact] Christchurch, 1 x 900MHz + 1800MHz GSM
*Paul Hunkin [[User:paulhunkin]] [mailto:pwh4@cs.waikato.ac.nz Contact] Hamilton (I'll pay for a courier), 1 x 900MHz.
*Paul Sandkuijl [[User:Edictor]] [http://www.edictor.com/contact.php Contact me here] Napier (I'll pay for postage to Napier from Auckland) and I also suggest a PayPal/Safetrader similar service, 1 Vodafone compatible 900/1800MHz.
*Brent Wood [[User:pcreso]] [mailto:pcreso@pcreso.com Email] Wellington. Will pay courier to Wgtn. 1x Vodafone compatible 900/1800Mhz unit
*Glen Ogilvie [[User:Nelg]] [mailto:nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz Email] Auckland, 1x Vodafone compatible 900Mhz.

=== Wellington ===
==== [[Wellington group sales|Wellington]] ====
Status: 1/10
*Andrew Stephen [[User:lizardb0y]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lizardb0y email me] Wellington, 1 x 900/1800Mhz GSM Vodafone compatible.

== Norway ==
=== Nordland ===
==== Bodø ====
Status 2/10

* [[User:AlecTBM|Alexander Frøyseth]] [mailto:alexander.froyseth@gmail.com alexander.froyseth@gmail.com]
* Ole Marius
* Stian Vading
* [[User:Kolbjorn.Dahle|Kolbjorn Dahle]][mailto:kolbjorn@dahlenett.org]

=== Sør-Trøndelag ===
==== Trondheim ====
Status 14/20

*[[User:andy000|Andreas Kalvå]] [mailto:andy@samfundet.no andy@samfundet.no]
Send mail om du er interessert.

=== Østlandet ===
==== Oslo, Akershus, Buskerud, Vestfold ====
Status: 30/?? 
30/30 er bestilt via [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] 
ingen har påtatt seg å bestille inn flere, men det er etterspørsel etter fler.

* [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] [mailto:heikkis@matnat.uio.no] (30/30) FULT! Ta likevel kontakt for veiledning.
* [[User:StianEllingsen|Stian Ellingsen]]

==== Østfold ====
Status 2/10

* [[User:MrBlonde|Petter Nygård]] [mailto:pettnyg@frisurf.no] Interessert? -> Mail meg....
* Eirik Lavik

=== Vestlandet ===
==== Bergen ====
Status 1/10

* [[User:alastairj|Alastair Jenkins]] [mailto:alastair.jenkins@gfi.uib.no]
* [[User:olemd|Ole-Morten Duesund]] [mailto:olemd@glemt.net]

== Poland ==

* Special group buy site: https://www.kumulator.pl/show/group/35 (in edition moment: 37/40)

== Portugal ==
Portuguese (10/10) who are associates of ANSOL, please consider joining [[TeamANSOL]] (currently 5/10 members).

We also need to have a cost estimation for Portuguese customs (like the Australians did). 20% sales tax + customs tax is to be expected both for individual or bulk sales, because the price is quite high. But freedom is priceless :)

=== Aveiro ===
==== Aveiro ====
Status : 1/10

* [[User:Ruben|Ruben Mendes]] ([[TeamANSOL]])

=== Lisboa ===
==== Lisboa ====
Status : 9/10

* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Danielblues Daniel Branco]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Knuckles Ivo Anjo]
* [[User:Pedrosilva|Pedro Silva]]
* Ricardo Sousa ([[TeamANSOL]])
* [[User:RuiSeabra|Rui Seabra]] ([[TeamANSOL]])
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasco Vasco Névoa]
* [[User:Jcanelas|José Canelas]]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Brunus Bruno Valentim]
* José Esteves ([[TeamANSOL]])

=== Porto ===
==== Porto ====
Status: 1/10

* [[User:villate|Jaime Villate]] ([[TeamANSOL]])

== Sweden ==
If insufficient number of people, orders could be merged and remailed perhaps.

Domestic remailing with Posten as A-class mail of a letter (criteria: length+width+height max 900 mm) weighing max 1 kg, without insurance should [http://www.posten.se/foretag/vara_tjanster/postageguide/postguideLetterDom.jspv cost 44 SEK]. 50 SEK more for insurance.

If we end up with more than one 10-pack in Sweden, my guess is that it would probably pay to order everything in one shipment to one address in Sweden to save on the international shipping, and then remail domestically.

=== Götaland ===
==== Göteborg ====

* [[User:Fwendt|Fredrik Wendt]] [[Special:Emailuser/Fwendt|Contact]]/wendt.se

==== Malmö ====
Status : 1/10

* Lars Jarlvik mailto:lars@larsfactory.se

=== Svealand ===
==== Stockholm ====
Status : 10/10

* Erland Lewin mailto:erland@lewin.nu
* Simon Kågström mailto:simon.kagstrom@gmail.com
* Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson mailto:ingi@ultimalabor.se
* Adam Johansson mailto:adam@sollentunaholm.se
* Lowe Schmidt mailto:lowe.schmidt@gmail.com
* [[User:Dex|Johan Eklundh]] Mail automated via contact page.
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/esbjorn Esbjörn Dominique]
* Johan Erlands mailto:johan.erlands@gmail.com
* [[User:Joel | Joel Metelius ]] [[Special:Emailuser/Joel | (contact)]] 1 phone + 1 debug (if possible)
* Peter Wihlner mailto:info@faktor.nu

==== Örebro ====
Status : 1/10

* Anders Petersson [mailto:demitar@worldforge.org demitar@worldforge.org]

==== Västerås ====
Status : 2/10
* Jörgen Lidholm, could join the Falun/Borlänge or Stockholm group [mailto:jorgen.lidholm@gmail.com]
* John Törnblom, can also join the Stockholm group [mailto:f04jto@student.lth.se]

==== Falun & Borlänge ====
Status : 4/10

* [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Jth Johan Thelmén], Åke Hoff & a demo/backup
* [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:eagle87 Pär Eriksson], Borlänge

=== Norrland ===
==== Umeå ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Zash|Zash]] [[Special:Emailuser/Zash|Contact]]
* [[User:Benjamin|Benjamin]] [[Special:Emailuser/Benjamin|Contact]]

==== Luleå ====
Status : 2/10

* [[User:Mjukis|Mjukis]] [[Special:Emailuser/Mjukis|Contact]] - 2 Units. Can also join the Malmö group order.

== Switzerland ==

'''???''' should organize the 3 x 10pack for Zürich 
Luca Capello could organize the 10pack for Geneva. 
Mathieu will organisze the 2 x 10pack for Lausanne EPFL CH-fr 

All payment in advance (a 10pack will cost approx 3'800 USD). 

'''Probably we will organize shippings, if we cannot all move to Zürich/Genève/Lausanne to get our Neo.'''

''François Bianco is trying to create a new group of 10 (will be mostly for French Switzerland). -> The group moved to the EPFL group, which will try to reach 20 persons. --[[User:Fbianco|Fbianco]] 11:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)'' 
''Gabriel Ambuehl would volunteer to order the initial 10pack. <- still accurate ? -> Gabriel will not organize the 10packs for Zürich due to not being in Switzerland. We are in contact to find a solution so please wait until we know what to do. Order in Germany (each for himself or as a group, not clear yet) could be as cheap as a 10pack. We are in contact with pulster.de and will be contacted form pulster about the price. We will contact you guys in the Zürich list as soon as we know more --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 10:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)'' 
''Alexandre Ghisoli will not organize the second 10pack, since the order moved in the Lucca's group.'' 

=== Customs and Postage ===
I called the [http://www.ezv.admin.ch/index.html?lang=en Swiss Federal Customs Administration] and it seems that we only need to pay VAT (7.6%) and the UPS taxes as well (since the parcel will be sent through UPS). Thus I called [http://www.ups.com/content/ch/en/contact/ UPS] and it seems that UPS directly pays the VAT instead of the customer, then asking the customer for refund (plus a fixed tax of EUR13.00). So I think the following per-phone cost for a Swiss bulk order should be a good estimate.

{| border="1"
|'''Bulk Order'''
|'''USD'''
|'''CHF'''
|-
|Customs Value (Cval)
|3690.00
|3837.60
|-
|Postage
|160.00
|166.40
|-
|Value of Taxable Importation (VoTI) = Cval+Postage
|3850.00
|4004.00
|-
|VAT = 7.6% of VoTI
|292.60
|304.30
|-
|UPS fixed tax (EUR13.00)
|20.00
|20.80
|-
|Total Cost
|4162.60
|4329.10
|-
|'''Per Person'''
|'''416.26'''
|'''432.91'''
|}

Figures accurate as of 4th Jun 2008 from [http://www.ubs.com/1/e/index/bcqv/calculator.html UBS]: 1EUR = 1.54USD and 1USD = 1.04CHF.

==== Shipping ====
If we would ship Neos, here is the Swiss PostPac prices :

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2"
! Description
! Size [cm]
! Price CHF TTC
|-
| Size 1
| 22.9 x 14.7 x 9.9
| 2.20
|-
| Size 2
| 31.5 x 22.5 x 12.5
| 2.40
|-
| Shipping Priority
| up to 2Kg
| 8.-
|-
| Shipping Economy
| up to 2Kg
| 6.-
|}

 

Steve posted informations about boxes that will be out with Neo :

* 10 pack : 435mm x 371mm x 119mm, approx 3kg, UPS will charge 160USD (need to be verified)
* Individual pack : 178mm x 104mm x 84mm, 237 grams

So size 1 will fit ! Local delivery in Switzerland will cost 8.20 for Economy or 10.20 Priority.

==== Zurich ====
Status : 28/30 
'''Contact person who order the 10Pack : ??'''

List already contains 30 people! 
''-- I changed from 20 -> 30 Devices in this order. --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 18:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)''

* Simon Wenner [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nowic Contact]
* Simon Schreiber [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]
* Markus Huggler (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]
* Andre Timmermann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]
* Raffael Schmid [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]
* Pascal Weller [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]
* Nick Zbinden (Luzern) [mailto:nickik@gmx.ch] oder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nickik Contact]
* Marcel Wirth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Skarhand Contact]
* Marcel Lütolf (Luzern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/NeRo Contact]
* Christian Corrodi [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matto Contact]
* Mirko Klingauf [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/RealAtaman Contact]
* Marcel Jost (Bern, with debug board if possible) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Onsonic Contact]
* Marc Andre Tanner (Biel) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mat Contact]
* Peter Salvisberg [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Psal Contact]
* Martin Kos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KoS Contact]
* Lorenz Schori (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Znerol Contact]
* Pascal Mages (Bern/Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/FreeMind Contact]
* Esra Kummer (2 Geräte!) (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tuxfux.ch Contact]
* Joerg Maeder (Opfikon) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/goergel Contact]
* Marc Bodmer (Solothurn) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/minxx Contact]
* Carlos Diener (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Emonkey Contact]
* Philipp Meier (Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/PhilippMeier Contact]
* Adrian Rudin (Basel) [mailto:adrian@mav.ch] or [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/blackmav Contact]
* Christof Pfister (Lyss) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chpfister Contact]
* Walter Sutter (Winterthur) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/seraphim Contact]
* Philipp Hug (St. Gallen) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Philipphug Contact]
* Thomas Jund (Aarau) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/none Contact]

==== Geneve ====
Status : 10/10 
'''Contact person who order the 10Pack : Luca Capello '''
WARNING, this list already contains 10 people! -- LucaCapello

* Diego Abelenda [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Aelia Contact]
* Luca Capello [mailto:luca@pca.it]
* Nicolas Produit [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Produit Contact]
* Sebastien Nanchen [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sn Contact]
* Matthieu de Montmollin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matthieudem Contact]
* Robin Farine (Auvernier) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rfarine Contact]
* Alexandre Ghisoli (Yverdon) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Agh Contact]
* Raphael Studer (Thurgau) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tschudder Contact]
* Christian Wäckerlin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/boognu Contact]
* Michael Stähli (Lausanne EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/adler Contact]

==== Suisse romande / Lausanne (EPFL) ====
Status : 20/20 COMPLETE 
'''Contact person who order the 10Packs : [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Mathieu Habegger] '''

* Mathieu Habegger (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Contact]
* Matthias Brändli (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hb9egm Contact]
* Frédéric Fokan(Lausanne) [mailto:fredericfokan@gmail.com Contact]
* Gulu (Lausanne) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gulu Contact]
* Edomaur (Lausanne, with Gulu) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edomaur Contact]
* Layx (Lausanne) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Layx Contact]
* Mélanie Baumann (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/calis Contact]
* Laurent Fasnacht (EPFL) [http://gnugeneration.epfl.ch/users/fasnacht Contact]
* Urs Blaser (UNIL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/arctus Contact]
* David Lütolf (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dlutolf Contact]
* François Bianco [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/fbianco Contact]
* Samuel Dorsaz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/akira Contact]
* Ludovic Fardel (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lfardel Contact]
* David Pelichet Contact via hb9egm 
* Vincent Hentsch [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vincos Contact]
* Carruzzo Gilles [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Willows Contact]
* Nicolas Favrod-Coune [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nfavrod Contact]
* Mathias Coinchon [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Coinchon Contact] 
* Rey Cyril (Monthey) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cyril Contact]
* Didier Raboud (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OdyX Contact]
* ---- '''The 20 pack is complete''' ----
 
'''''This list will be extended to 30 only if we can complete the 30 pieces''''' ''Add your name below if you're interested --[[User:Habi|Habi]] 19:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)''
* ''Claude Angéloz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/claude-elrond740 Contact]''
* Pascal Bach (EPFL) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Anakron Contact]
* Nicolas Etienne (Gimel) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nice Contact]
* Michel Dänzer (Bern) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrCooper Contact]
* Thomas Kallenberg (Zürich) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sneaker Contact]

== Spain ==
=== Spain (Country Group Sale) ===
Status: 16/20

=== Madrid ===
==== Madrid ====
Status : 5/10

* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Rafael Campos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Methril Contact] 

* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Pabloruiz contact me here]

* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Carlos Padilla Sorbas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:cymonline contact me here]

* [[Special:Emailuser/Troy|Alvaro Garcia Roy]] 1 phone

* [[User:kresp0 | Santiago Crespo]] 1 phone

=== Zaragoza ===
==== Zaragoza ====
Status : 2/10

* Alejandro R. Mosteo alejandro AT mosteo · com
* Arturo Giner [[Special:Emailuser/artginer|Contact]]

=== Barcelona ===
==== Barcelona ====
Status : 7/10

* José Luis Pérez [[Special:Emailuser/jluis|Contact]]
* David Reyes Samblas Martinez [[Special:Emailuser/mutrox|Contact]]
* Sergio Arias [[Special:Emailuser/saerguio|Contact]]
* Alex Muntada [[Special:Emailuser/alexm|Contact]]
* Pascal co [[Special:Emailuser/pascalco|Contact]]
* Antonio Rodríguez ( x2 ) [[Special:Emailuser/AntonioR|Contact]]

=== Valencia ===
==== Valencia ====
Status : 1/10

* Pau Gaspar Díaz [[Special:Emailuser/pau|Contact]]

=== Islas Canarias ===
==== Tenerife ====
Status : 1/10

* Enrique Hernández Bello [[Special:Emailuser/SiNiESTrO|Contact]]

== UAE ==
Status: 1/10
* Yaser Ammar [[Special:Emailuser/Waraqa|Contact]]

== USA ==
=== Arizona ===
==== Tucson ====
Willing to reship to nonlocal people within the US (cheaper if you're closer), or get absorbed into another group that's willing to reship. In talks with Boulder (Colorado) group.

Status: 3/10
* [mailto:wes.shull@gmail.com wesshull] Wes Shull - 1x GTA02 + 1x debug board
* Richard Reichenbacher - 2x GTA02

=== Colorado ===
==== Boulder ====
Status: 8/10
* Vinc Duran x2 (I can purchase and distribute locally) [mailto:uberpfloyd@gmail.com?subject=Openmoko%20group%20sales Pfloyd] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pfloyd Contact]
* John Miller [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jwm jwm]
* D Padilla 
* Joey Stanford [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/k0fcc k0fcc]
* J Hinegardner [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jjh jjh]
* S Derrick of New Mexico x2 

==== Denver (Full) ====
Status: 10/10 (includes the gentleman from Utah)
* Shawn Sullivan [[mailto:shelbydz87@yahoo.com shelbydz87@yahoo.com]]
* Peter Abplanalp [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alderion Contact]
* Ben Burdette [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ansible Contact]
* Tom Russell [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tazbert Contact]
* Trace [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gnork Contact]

==== Fort Collins ====
Status: 1/10
* Paul Hummer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rockstar Contact]

=== California ===
==== Los Angeles ====
Status: 8/10

* Ian Douglas, Santa Monica I'll help organize a group sale, meet & greet, but since I was selected to help test the Freerunner, I won't need to actually purchase one. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iandouglas Contact me here]
* Matthew Wetmore, Westchester 90045 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wetmoko Contact]
* Daniel, Torrance [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Beaker82 Contact]
* James Robertson, Irvine [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JamesRobertson Contact]
* Bill Sun [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/DancingSun Contact]
* Michael, Santa Monica [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bstudios Contact]
* Russel Dwiggins, Cerritos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/undrwater Contact]
* Dima, Pasadena [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dima Contact]
* Mike, Santa Monica (1 unit + 1 debug board) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Traveler Contact]

==== San Diego ====

Status: 8/10

Includes North County, Riverside, Tijuana, etc.

* Peter Naulls, Carlsbad (South)/Mira Mesa (near Qualcomm) - will coordinate. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pnaulls Contact]
* Tracy Reed [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/treed Contact]
* Adam Hughes [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ajinxa Contact]
* Paul Breed [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbreed Contact]
* Greg Davidson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JGregD Contact]
* Larry Riedel [mailto:Larry@Riedel.org Contact]
* David Wilhelm [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bluefir Contact]
* Jim McLaughlin - could move to LA group if needed as other company office is near LAX [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rpq Contact]

==== San Francisco Bay Area ====
Status: 10/10 Full

(Discuss this group sale, pickup and payments on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#San_Francisco_Bay_Area talk page])

* Ajit Natarajan - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ajitk Contact]

* Dirk Bergstrom - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krid Contact]

* Tupshin Harper - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tupshin Contact]

* Lothar Werzinger (900MHz) - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Elektrolott Contact]

* William Ray Yeager - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/wyeager Contact]

* Sebastian Coe - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savari Contact]

* Jim Morris - (Agreed to organize purchase) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/wolfmanjm Contact]

* Brian Carver - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/brianwc Contact]

* Cry Regarder (2 units, cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cry_Regarder Contact]

Status 6/10
* Cry Regarder (1 units, cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cry_Regarder Contact]

* Jim Lutz - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JLutz Contact]

* Kelley Eitzen - (Cash or Paypal) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xeromist Contact]

* Paul Mahon - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dufflebunk Contact] (San Jose)

* William Morgan - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Williamallthing Contact]

* ken restivo - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kenrestivo Contact]

=== Florida ===
==== Central Florida ====
Status 1/10
* 1 x Jonathan Howard [[Special:Emailuser/kingtgaurd9|Contact]], Orlando

=== Idaho ===
==== Southwestern Idaho ====
Status 2/10
* 1 × Eugene Kravtsov [[Special:Emailuser/theUg|Contact]], Garden City (Boise).
* 1 × Christopher Blay [[Special:Emailuser/blayde|Contact]], Twin Falls.

=== Midwest ===
'''(combine Illinois / Iowa / Tennesee / Texas / Wisconsin)'''
Status: 9/10
* Steven M [[Special:Emailuser/Montgoss|Contact]] - Cedar Rapids, IA
* Joseph Booker [[Special:Emailuser/Sargas|Contact]] - Chicago, IL
* Matt McCormick [[Special:Emailuser/Thewtex|Contact]] - Madison, WI
* Charles Hill [mailto:charles.e.hill@gmail.com email] - Chicago, IL
* Greg Bonett [mailto:greg@bonett.org email] - Iowa City, IA
* Tushar Dayal [mailto:tdayal@gmail.com Contact] - Ames, IA
* solomon jacob herscovitch [[Special:Emailuser/SoloSalsa|Contact]] - Chicago, IL
* Eric Olson [mailto:ericools@gmail.com Contact] - Madison, WI
* Tom Watson [[Special:Emailuser/Toggles|Contact]] - Pittsburgh, PA

=== Kentucky ===
(Possibly + 2 from Memphis?)
Status: 8/10 (Possibly 10?)
* Dan Staley [[Special:Emailuser/Pyrasi|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* Donnie Jones [[Special:Emailuser/Donniejones18|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* John Sterling [[Special:Emailuser/Sterling|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* James MacLachlan [[Special:Emailuser/Jmaclachlan|Contact]] (Louisville, KY)
* John Askew [[Special:Emailuser/Johnaskyou|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* Devin Cook [[Special:Emailuser/Dcook|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)
* Geoff Ruscoe [[Special:Emailuser/Geocode|Contact]] - Louisville, KY
* Jon Howard [[Special:Emailuser/Jchoward|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)

=== Ohio / Michigan ===
Status: 10/10
* David Pais (Unknown City) [mailto:davioh2001@yahoo.com email]
* Dave Ludlow (Toledo) (I can purchase and distribute) [[Special:Emailuser/adsllc|Contact]]
* Adam Steele (Cincinnati) [mailto:adam@laurasteele.net Contact]
* Elliot Bailey (Canton) [mailto:elliot.bailey@yahoo.com Contact]
* Richard Rowell (Grand Rapids) [mailto:richard.rowell@gmail.com Contact]
* [mailto:sf_openmoko10pak2@paulwehr.com Paul Wehr] Ann Arbor
* Micah Krafcik (Youngstown) [mailto:mjk20xx@yahoo.com Contact]
* Doug Wurtzbacher (Centerville) x2 [mailto:doug@medicineshoppekett.com Contact]
* Martin Dicks (Columbus) [[Special:Emailuser/mdicks|Contact]]

=== Pacific Northwest ===
==== Oregon ====
===== Eugene =====
Status: 2/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Washington group)

* Quentin Hartman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/qhartman|Contact]] Willing to organize the Oregon group buy and/or be absorbed into another Pacific NW group if too few locals sign up.
* Brian Wilson (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Brian_H_Wilson|Contact]] (in Corvallis actually)

==== Washington ====
===== Seattle =====
Status: 8/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Oregon group)
* Jon Pomeroy (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Jepomeroy|Contact]]
* Andrew Hirata (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/tonkatsu182|Contact]] Note: I live in Bellevue
* Chris Baker (Status pending) [[Special:Emailuser/cwainb|Contact]]
* Mark Zimmerman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mawazi|Contact]]
* Wim Lewis (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Wiml|Contact]] In Wallingford.
* Charles Wheeler (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/SnowWolf75|Contact]] Note: Work in Bellevue, live in Federal Way. May not have money till mid-July.
* Gino O (Status confirmed) (i n f o @ seatlewebcreations.com) I live on Beacon Hill and own 2 companies, one for web and another for opensource mobile development. I'd like to get @ least one, and may be able to cover the difference for a group purchase if need be.
* Matt Luzum (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mluzum|Contact]]

=== Tennessee ===
==== Memphis ====
Status: 2/10
* Peter O'Connor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/poconnor Contact]
* Jarvis Stubblefield (Prefer with Debug) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BallisticPain Contact]

=== Texas ===
==== Austin (15/10) ====
* Dale Schumacher [[Special:Emailuser/dalnefre|Contact]]
* Michael Cosby [[Special:Emailuser/mcosby|Contact]]
* Paul Jimenez [[Special:Emailuser/pj|Contact]]
* Charles [[Special:Emailuser/rbn|Contact]]
* Anthony Kitchin [[Special:Emailuser/akitchin|Contact]]
* Carl (x2) [[Special:Emailuser/texatopia|Contact]]
* Robert (+Debug Board) [[Special:Emailuser/SHaRK|Contact]] (Houston)
* Bryan DeLuca [[Special: Emailuser/Stupkid|Contact]] (Fort Worth)
* Dennis Parker [[Special: Emailuser/dparker|Contact]]
* Chip Rosenthal [[Special: Emailuser/chip|Contact]]
* Brad Mouring [[Special: Emailuser/Bmouring|Contact]] (Moving to Austin by mid-June, likely earlier)
* Joel Greenberg [[Special: Emailuser/joelg|Contact]]
* Hans Loeblich [[Special: Emailuser/Peepsalot|Contact]]
* Mark Rinaudo [[Special:Emailuser/Mrinaudo|Contact]]
* Scott Farrell [[Special:Emailuser/sfarrell|Contact]]

==== Dallas (2/10) ====
* Philip White [[Special:Emailuser/pmw|Contact]]
* Stephen Shelton [[Special:Emailuser/stephenashelton|Contact]]

=== Mid-Atlantic ===
==== District of Columbia (DC) Metro Area ====
* Brian DeRocher [[Special:Emailuser/brian_252|email]]
==== Virginia====
===== Virginia Tech (1/10) =====
* Lally Singh [[Special:Emailuser/lally|email]] -- yeah, if you're ordering anywhere in VA, lemme know. 
===== Richmond (1/10)=====
*Steve Watson mailto:ssw0213@gmail.com 

==== New York (18/20) ====

* Bert Hartmann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BertHartm Contact me here] 
* Michael Cole mailto:mjcole137@gmail.com 
* Remy Frerebeau [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rfrerebe Contact me here] 
* Ulises E. Erickson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ulix Contact me here] 
* Justin Daly [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/justo Contact me here] 
* Philippe Gerard [[Special:Emailuser/feydreva|Contact]] I live in Richmond (VA) but we will never be 10 there 
* Evan Charlton mailto:evancharlton+om@gmail.com 
* Paul Buede mailto:paul@buede.com 
* Baruch Even [[Special:Emailuser/poka|Contact me here]] 
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced)Paul Hurlock [[Special:Emailuser/triclosan|Contact me here]] 
* Ryan [[Special:Emailuser/ryan|Contact me here]] (Connecticut, actually, but close enough.) 
* Charles Pax mailto:charles.pax@gmail.com
* Chrisropher Pax mailto:christopher.pax@gmail.com
* Miki Grof-Tisza [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MTisza Contact me here] 
* Daniel Dadap 1x [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/danek Contact me here] - If we don't reach 20 by release date I intend to purchase individually. 
* Yaroslav Halchenko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/yarikoptic]
* Craig Woodward [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Woody14619|Contact here] or mailto:woody14619@yahoo.com Up-state & will require re-ship.
* Alex [[Special:Emailuser/rakukin|Contact]]

==== Maryland (2/10)====
* Paul Buede I switched to New York, cause we don't have enough. Look up ^ 
* Charles Lohr
* Alex (switched to NYC, see above; may be able to deliver phone(s) to DC metro)

==== North Carolina (3/10)====
* Jason Sharpee [[Special:Emailuser/zonyl|Contact]] - Charlotte Metro area 
* William Vidrine [[Special:Emailuser/Infoport|Contact]] - Greensboro/Triad area, will be part of an NC or Mid-Atlantic order; will drop out and order individually if 10 not reached. 
* Joe White [[Special:Emailuser/Raygions|Contact]] - Winston-Salem/Triad area 

=== Massachusetts ===
Status: 10/10 (Full)
* Benjamin Moody [[Special:Emailuser/FloppusMaximus|Contact]]

* Ken Young, Cambridge (Note, if we're not up to 10/10 on the day the Freerunner is announced, I'm going to drop out and order individually).[[Special:Emailuser/Dolson|Contact]]

* Chris White (for 2) [[Special:Emailuser/Safire|Contact]]

* Nick Dube - Pembroke, NH (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Doobe01 Contact]

* Justin Brzozoski - Worcester, MA area [[Special:Emailuser/Jabski|Contact]]

* John Nicholson - Amherst, MA (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/nicklogan|Contact]]

* Matthew Campbell - Worcester, MA [[Special:Emailuser/lifeisafractal|Contact]]

* Jeff Gold [[Special:Emailuser/jgold|Contact]]

* Craig Allen [[Special:Emailuser/knodalyte|Contact]]

Status: 7/10

* Bala Nair - Acton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/bnair|Contact]]
* Mike Doody - Groton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/dude|Contact]]
* 0x Nathan Perry - Derry, NH (cannot switch to GSM at this time)
* Kyle Harrington - Amherst, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/dancingcuziwanna|Contact]]
* Ryan Svoboda - Worcester, MA (Will buy one individually on release day if this group is incomplete) [[Special:Emailuser/ryansv|Contact]]
* Ryan Meador - Worcester, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/Yanroy|Contact]]
* Jeff Gelbard - Haydenville, MA [[Special:Emailuser/jgelbard|Contact]]
(Between the 2 groups, we already have 7 "visibly" from Worchester - Western MA...I think the group should be resorted....Who is the contact where the package will be sent?)

=== Nevada ===
==== Reno/Sparks ====
Including Northwestern Nevada/ Northeastern California
Status: 1/10
* Tyrell Berry [[Special:Emailuser/Alawatsakima|Contact]]

== UK ==

* Stroller (Milton Keynes, can travel) mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk 01908 663 513. Thinks that breaking the UK up into regions - at least outside London - is silly. There are unlikely to be 10 people in $your_town who want a Freerunner, so some posting of Freerunners will surely be required; see [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Oxford the talk page]. This is the same cost anywhere in the UK.

=== Scotland ===
==== Edinburgh ====
Status : 4/10

* Joe Wells (Edinburgh) [http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~jbw/ Web] (The Wiki's e-mail feature (those URLs with “Special:Emailuser” in them) do not seem to be working. I tried contacting Dave Ball and Stuart MacKinnon that way and got no reply. Later, Stuart (who I reached by writing a message here) told me he never got the e-mail. So the Wiki's e-mail feature might be broken. So please contact me by going to my web page and using my e-mail address listed there. Stuart and George have been in contact with me by e-mail. I am happy to put more people in Scotland in touch if you send me e-mail.)
* Dave Ball (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Daveb Contact]
* Stuart MacKinnon(Livingston) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hoagster Contact]
* george Maistros (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mordilo_k Contact]

==== Glasgow ====
Status : 3/10

* Kyle Gordon [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kylegordon Contact]
* Sean Anderson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Moniker42 Contact]
* Kenny Duffus [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sealne Contact]

=== England ===

==== Hampshire ====

Status: 16/20 at 2008-05-24

http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FreerunnerBulkBuy

Willing to re-ship within the UK.

(Sorry, we set up the page before we knew about this one)

==== London ====

Status : 15/10

* Juergen Schinker mailto:ba1020@homie.homelinux.net
* aled [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aled Contact]
* Robert Piasek (actually in Southampton) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Queen6 Contact]
* Tom Scholl (Cambridge, travel to London now and then anyway so could pick up) [mailto:thomasscholl@gmail.com]
* Weiss (Cambridge, could collect from London) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Weiss Contact]
* Neil Bentley (in Wiltshire) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ohnez Contact]
* rhn x 2 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rhn Contact]
* Tim Coggins [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Contact]
* Michele Mattioni (I'm based in Cambridge too, but if Tom can go to London I can grab the phone in Cambridge) [mailto:mattions@gmail.com]
* '''Group Buyer''' Ben F-W (Fulham, London) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/benfw Contact]
* T. Chan (Cambridge, vaguely knows Weiss) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/TC Contact]
* Rob Paulson (Derby, but will be visiting London in July) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Myfanwy Contact]
* Mario [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Spirer Contact]
* David Pottage (actually in Reading) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chrestomanci Contact]

==== West Midlands ====
Status : 3/10

* Mo Abrahams (Walsall) mailto:moabrahams@dashavoo.com
* Jonathan Spooner (Walsall)
* E. Lucretiu (Stafford) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lucretiu Contact]

== Latvia ==
=== Riga ===
==== Riga ====
Status : 2/10
* Ilya [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/VRGhost Contact]
* Deniss [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Druidegrey Contact]

== Singapore ==
Status : 3/10
* Wee Kiam Peng [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jipi Contact]
* Chen Ruo Fei [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crf Contact]
* Moritz Haeberle [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Morid Contact]

== Israel==
Status : 3/10
* Ofer Herman [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/oferhe Contact]
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Talba Talba]
* Dan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Da-x Contact]

== Czech Republic ==
<div style="text-align: center;">
Koordinátorem objednávání je Martin Šenkeřík [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]
</div>
=== Aktuálně ===
'''Odeslal jsem všem ze seznamu mail s informacemi k odeslání peněz. Pokud náhodou někomu mail nedorazil, urychleně se mi ozvěte, ať se nemusí moc čekat. Mohlo se stát, že jsem v tom množství někoho nechtěně vynechal...'''
*'''26.6. - '''V pondělí porovnám výpis z účtu se seznamem zájemců tady na wiki a od koho tam nebudou peníze budu ho ještě pro jistotu kontaktovat. Pokud se ukáže, že všechno dorazilo tak jak mělo, odešlu peníze Pulsterovi.
Na to jsem se ptal v České Spořitelně, a převod více než 200 000Kč je nutné provést v bance, za co si vyberou 200Kč poplatek, plus 1% z částky za zahraniční převod v EUR, avšak maximálně 1500Kč - což je náš případ, plus ještě poplatky Německé banky protože všechny poplatky půjdou na vrub odesílatele (snad to nebude moc). Tyhle poplatky uhradím z toho, co jsem připočítal k ceně telefonu.

''A je to tu!! Pulster.de nejenom potvrdil cenu, ale také oznámil, že už má telefony skladem (ne však zatím k veřejnému prodeji, ale nám je připravený je odeslat).''

=== Základní informace ===
Jedná se o hromadnou objednávku [[Neo_FreeRunner|Neo FreeRunner]] ([[Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware|hardware]] - GSM, GPS, WiFi, CPU 400MHz, ...; software - [http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/freerunner1.4.swf náhled na připravovanou Qtopii]) do České republiky.
Cena 299€.

Protože se množí na to dotazy, vypíšu co je součástí dodávky a co ne:
*Obdržíme:
** FreeRunner ;-)
** stylus (pravděpodobně ten s laserem aspol...)
** adaptér
** USB kabel
** 512MB SD card

*Neobdržíme (možno přiobjednat):
** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/d__ompouch__OpenMoko_Freerunner_Pouch786.htm obal] (19€) - navíc 500Kč
** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/index.html?d__omheadset__OpenMoko_Headset785.htm headset] (9€) - navíc 250Kč

Omlouvám se těm, kteří by ještě chtěli přiobjednat některé z příslušenství a už odeslali peníze. Bude bohužel potřeba v případě zájmu odeslat ještě navíc sumu za příslušenství. ''Pokud by byl malý zájem, mohl bych to zaplatit ze zálohy a případný nedoplatek vybrat v hotovosti (platí bohužel jen pro Brno a Zlín).''

=== Postup registrace a objednání ===
<center>'''Platí pro obě větve!'''</center>
Tak jsme na kroku 3!
# Registraci provedete zápisem svého jména a kontaktu do patřičné větve odpovídající místu vašeho osobního převzítí telefonu. Můžete nabídnout distribuci do míst, které ještě nikdo neposkytuje.
# stanovena lehce nadhodnocená částka: 7500Kč za telefon, s debug boardem na 10000Kč na bezpečné pokrytí očekávaných i neočekávaných výdajů spojených s objednávkou
# '''každý zájemce odešle tuto sumu na účet Martina Šenkeříka, identifikuje se svým jménem a příjmením ve zprávě příjemci'''
# jakmile budou peníze nashromážděny, provedu objednávku tolika telefonů, kolik zájemců mi zašle peníze
# po obdržení balíku s telefony se vypočte finální částka za telefon, a případný přeplatek bude vrácen každému osobně při převzetí telefonu (lokální distributoři samozřejmě obdrží patřičný počet telefonů a peněz, aby mohly být předány dále)
# všem se dítko šťastně dopraví do rukou

*[[Talk:GroupSales#Diskuze | Diskuse]]
*[[Talk:GroupSales#Dopl.C5.88uj.C3.ADc.C3.AD_informace | Doplňující informace]]

=== Brno ===

==== Distribuční schéma ====

'''[n]''' FreeRunner
'''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)
'''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč
'''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč
''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více
voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''

<center>'''Status : 23'''</center>

'' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''

*'''Martin Šenkeřík''' - [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]
**'''Brno''':
***'''Radek Bartoň''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Blackhex|Contact]]
****'''Frýdek-Místek''':
*****-
***'''€ Pavel Erben''' - [[User:Erby|Kontakt]]
***'''Radek Machulka''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Werty|Contact]]
***'''Aleš Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Setr|Contact]]
***'''Jozef Mlich [2, 1D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/joejoe|Contact]]
***'''Martin Faltičko''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MafRaf|Contact]]
***'''€ Karel Volný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/kavol|Contact]]
***'''Martin Nagy [1, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/mnagy|Contact]]
****'''Bratislava''':
*****'''František Horínek''' - [[Special:Emailuser/PipBoy2000|Contact]]
*****'''Martin Vyšný''' - [mailto:vysny@baka.sk Contact]
*****'''Tomáš Sirný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Junckritter|Contact]]
*****'''Ján Janech''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Janik|Contact]]
*****'''Ivan Šeďo [1, 1D, 3H, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/ikoframe|Contact]]
******'''SK/Žilina''':
******'''SK/Piešťany''':
***'''Tom Varga [H, O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Varg|Contact]]
***'''€ Petr Ondo [2]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Votik|Contact]]
***'''Pavel Krátký [1, 1H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MrBobby|Contact]]
**'''Zlín''':
***'''Martin Holec''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Martix|Contact]]
***'''€ Pavel Kovář''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Fox|Contact]]
****'''Ostrava''':
*****'''€ Marian Krucina [D,H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/oak|Contact]]

=== Praha ===

==== Distribuční schéma ====
'''Vzhledem ke jednodušší distribuci půjde balíček do Brna a odtud jej převeze Tomáš Varga.'''

'''[n]''' FreeRunner
'''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)
'''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč
'''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč
''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více
voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''

<center>'''Status : 16'''</center>

'' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''

*(€)''' Jan Mareš [2,2H]''' - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:iVir Contact]
**'''Praha''':
***'''€ Martin Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/masca|Contact]]
***'''€ Michal Pěnka [H]''' - [http://michal.penka.name/kontakt Contact]
***'''Jan Černý [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/xcerj01|Contact]]
****'''Kolín''':
***'''Dag Rauer''' - [[Special:Emailuser/drag|Contact]]
***'''Miloslav Machotka [O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Machy|Contact]]
***'''David Kozub [D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Zub|Contact]] (Kdyby z Prahy seslo, volim Zlin jako fallback.)
***'''Milan Vontorčík [HO]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Mvontorcik|Contact]]
***'''Vojtěch Vozáb''' - [mailto:vojtav@centrum.cz Contact]
***'''€ Zdeněk Trávníček [D]''' - [[User:V154c1|Contact]] (Klidne si zajedu i jinam po republice)
***'''€ Milan Šedý [2]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Wortyr|Contact]]
***''' Martin Hinner''' - [mailto:martin@hinner.info Contact]
**'''Písek''':
***(€)''' Luboš Podrázský [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/zsman|Contact]]
***''' Petr Marvan''' - [mailto:petr.marvan1@seznam.cz Contact]

== Slovak Republic ==
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Czech_Republic Spojeno s Czech Republic]

== Croatia ==
Status : 12/10
* w00t - [[Special:Emailuser/W00t|Contact]]
* matija - [[Special:Emailuser/Matija.z|Contact]]
* valajbeg - [[Special:Emailuser/valajbeg|Contact]]
* kost - [[Special:Emailuser/kost|Contact]]
* mnalis - [[Special:Emailuser/mnalis|Contact]]
* tcavrag - [[Special:Emailuser/tcavrag|Contact]]
* slavus - [[Special:Emailuser/slavus|Contact]]
* bsevo - [[Special:Emailuser/bsevo|Contact]]
* amd64 - [[Special:Emailuser/SilverSpace|Contact]]
* v-v - [[Special:Emailuser/v-v|Contact]]
* Lovro - [[Special:Emailuser/Lovro|Contact]]
* Zlotvor - [[Special:Emailuser/zlotvor|Contact]]
(maybe we should make one group for bosnia, croatia & serbia together?) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php/Talk:GroupSales#Croatia the talk page]

== Russia ==
=== Moscow ===
Status : 11/20
* 1x sinister - [[Special:Emailuser/sinister|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) shallburn - [[Special:Emailuser/shallburn|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) vadson - [[Special:Emailuser/vadson|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Tallex - [[Special:Emailuser/Tallex|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) mex3 - [[Special:Emailuser/mex3|Contact]]
* 1x Alexxy (with debug board if possible) - [[Special:Emailuser/Alexxy|Contact]] (Actual location - Saint-Petersburg)
* 1x pva (with debug board if possible) - [[Special:Emailuser/Pva|Contact]] (Moscow if matters)
* 2x (1x [[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced + 1x Base) cbou (Moscow) - [[Special:Emailuser/cbou|Contact]]
* 1x (Base) Buffet - [[Special:Emailuser/Buffet|Contact]]
* 1x homeboy - [[Special:Emailuser/homeboy|Contact]]

=== Saint-Petersburg ===
Status : 7/10
* 2x Nikolay Kasatkin - [[Special:Emailuser/Kainspb|Contact]]
[[Category:Community]]
* 1x (3x?) ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - phone+board) cracatau - [[Special:Emailuser/cracatau|Contact]]
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - phone+board) alexei379 - [[Special:Emailuser/alexei379|Contact]]
* 3x krigstask - [[Special:Emailuser/krigstask|Contact]]

== Belarus ==
=== Minsk ===
Status : 1/10
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Const - [[Special:Emailuser/Const|Contact]]
[[Category:Community]]

== Taiwan ==
=== Taipei ===
Status : 3/10

* Cruz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cruz Contact]
* mkl23 @ShinChu [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mkl23 Contact]
* htchien [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/htchien Contact]

== Bahrain ==
Status : 3/10

* Salman [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/smhar Contact]

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Translation

2007-05-13T10:25:05Z

Cga: /* Italian */

Let us spread the popularity of OpenMoko/Neo1973 by localization of the software and translation of documentation and wiki.

Just as an overview who is able and willing to translate parts into other languages,
please join and add your Language and name. The source for the translation will
be English. If you have good English skills then you could contribute by correcting
the sources :)

A good point to start would be to continuous translating of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMoko into more languages on the other language sites of wikipedia.

"...it is easy to join and spend some minutes for translating,
and when someone finds some mistakes in any languages don't
blame the translator - just be productive and fix it yourself!" -[[User:RobertMichel|Robert Michel]]

Please take a look at [[Translation HOWTO]] and improve it if possible.

Languages already offered on our community mailinglist, please add your name yourself and join community mailinglist (until we'll have a proper mailinglist) to discuss about translations:

== Afrikaans ==

== Amharic ==
* [[User:ethiopia|Ethiopia Alemayehu]]

== Armenian ==
* [[User:surenk|Suren Karapetyan]]

== Arabic ==
* Hossam Mahmoud

== Bulgarian ==
* [[User:Mr700|Doncho Nicolaev Gunchev]]

== Catalan ==

* [[User:montxovs|Montxo Vicente i Sempere]]

* [[User:Mandarino|Mandarino]]

== Chinese (Simplified)==
* [[User:JarodWang|JarodWang]]
* xyb

== Czech ==
* [[User:Mikesh|Michal Heczko]]

== Danish ==
* [[User:EsbenDamgaard|Esben Damgaard]]
* [[User:UlrikRasmussen|Ulrik Rasmussen]]
* [[User:miki|Mikkel Kirkgaard Nielsen]]

== Dutch ==
* [[User:MarcVerwerft|Marc Verwerft]]
* [[User:Madjo|Marcel De Jong]]
* [[User:OliverH|Oliver Heesakkers]]
* [[User:LuitvD|Luit van Drongelen]]
* [[User:reinouts|Reinout van Schouwen]]

([[User:Madjo|Marcel]] 18/04) Misschien is het handig om alvast te beginnen met vertalen van de Wiki? Of hebben jullie andere ideeen? Ik heb al een start gemaakt van de voorpagina van de wiki, maar ben nog niet veel verder gekomen
([[User:reinouts|Reinout]] 21/04) Valt er verder nog niks te vertalen? De wiki is niet echt boeiend.

== Esperanto ==
* [[User:Antono|Antono Vasiljev]]

== Estonian ==
* [[User:Hadara|Sven Petai]]
* [[User:Myoldryn|Jaan Nigul]]

== Finnish ==
* [[User:Jani-Matti_Hätinen|Jani-Matti Hätinen]]
* [[User:TuomoSipola|Tuomo Sipola]]
* [[User:Eyec|Samuli Perttula]]
* [[User:gua|Atte Hinkka]]

== French ==
* [[User:SebastienJolicoeur|Sebastien Jolicoeur]]
* [[User:MarcSert|Marc Sert]]
* [[User:FoucaultdeBonneval|Foucault deBonneval]]
* [[User:Sufflope|Jean-Sébastien Bour]]
* [[User:Ymahe|Yves Mahé]]

== German ==
* [[User:RobertMichel|Robert Michel]]
* [[User:FabianOff|Fabian Off]]
* [[User:Denis std|Denis]]
* Lars C.
* [[User:AndreasHochsteger|Andreas Hochsteger]]
* [[User:Christophloew|Christoph Löw]]

== Hebrew ==
* [[User:OlegSverdlov|Oleg Sverdlov]]
* [[User:Any_Key|Any_Key]]
* [[User:Koala|Koala]]

== Indonesian ==
* [[User:Hcblue|Hcblue]]

== Italian ==
* per il momento useremo [http://www.openmokoboard.org/ita/index.php?getforum=24 questo forum] per organizzarci. iscrivetevi e partecipate.
* [[User:SergioTota|Sergio Tota]]
* [[User:Franco|Franco Rimoldi]]
* [[User:Filippo|Filippo]]
* [[User:Massi|Massimiliano]]
* [[User:Markk0|Marco Cattaneo]]
* [[User:Cga|Callea Gaetano Andrea]]
* [[User:Herod2k|Alessandro]]

== Japanese ==
*[[User:WilliamLai|William Lai]]
*[[Momoko Matsuzaki]]

== Norwegian ==
*[[User:Hanscats|Hans Cats]]
*[[User:Vegar|Vegar Storvann]]

== Polish ==
* [[User:KrzysztofKajkowski|Krzysztof Kajkowski]]
* Tomasz Zieliński
* [[User:MaciejLigenza|Maciej Ligenza]]
* [[User:PiotrDuda|Piotr Duda]]
* [[User:Zbraniecki|Zbigniew Braniecki]]

== Portuguese ==
* Sergio Bessa
* Mario Costa

== Punjabi ==
* [[User:aalam|A S Alam]]

== Romanian ==

* [[User:alexxed|Alexandru Szasz]]

== Russian ==
* [[User:OlegSverdlov|Oleg Sverdlov]]
* [[User:DenisBY|Denis Kot]]
* [[User:MikhailGusarov|Mikhail Gusarov]]
* [[User:x-demon|Alexander Sokolow]]
* [[User:Any_Key|Any_Key]]
* [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]]
* [[User:Buffet|Denis Kaledin]]
Можем начинать переводить wiki :)
К любой странице добавляете /ru и переводите. В конце оригинальной страницы и переведенной добавляете ссылку на шаблон
<nowiki>{{Languages|Имя_страницы_оригинала}}</nowiki>

== Slovak ==
* [[User:Cezz|Cezz]]

== Spanish ==
* [[User:RosangelaCaninoKoning|Rosangela CaninoKoning]]
* [[User:kresp0|Santiago Crespo (kresp0)]]
* [[User:José_Suárez|José Suárez]]
* [[User:Rafa_Couto|Rafa Couto (caligari)]]
* [[User:NeoMorfeo|Guillermo Santos (NeoMorfeo)]]
* [[User:Mandarino|Mandarino]]
* [[User:pptudela|Pepe Tudela]]
* [[User:avathar|Fernando González (Avathar)]]

== Swedish ==
* [[User:yeager|Daniel Nylander]]

== Turkish ==
* [[User:EnginErenturk|Engin Erenturk]]

== Welsh ==
* [[User:Rhoslyn_Prys|Rhoslyn Prys]]

And feel free to join and add an new language to this list above.

Translation

2007-05-13T10:06:49Z

Cga:

Let us spread the popularity of OpenMoko/Neo1973 by localization of the software and translation of documentation and wiki.

Just as an overview who is able and willing to translate parts into other languages,
please join and add your Language and name. The source for the translation will
be English. If you have good English skills then you could contribute by correcting
the sources :)

A good point to start would be to continuous translating of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMoko into more languages on the other language sites of wikipedia.

"...it is easy to join and spend some minutes for translating,
and when someone finds some mistakes in any languages don't
blame the translator - just be productive and fix it yourself!" -[[User:RobertMichel|Robert Michel]]

Please take a look at [[Translation HOWTO]] and improve it if possible.

Languages already offered on our community mailinglist, please add your name yourself and join community mailinglist (until we'll have a proper mailinglist) to discuss about translations:

== Afrikaans ==

== Amharic ==
* [[User:ethiopia|Ethiopia Alemayehu]]

== Armenian ==
* [[User:surenk|Suren Karapetyan]]

== Arabic ==
* Hossam Mahmoud

== Bulgarian ==
* [[User:Mr700|Doncho Nicolaev Gunchev]]

== Catalan ==

* [[User:montxovs|Montxo Vicente i Sempere]]

* [[User:Mandarino|Mandarino]]

== Chinese (Simplified)==
* [[User:JarodWang|JarodWang]]
* xyb

== Czech ==
* [[User:Mikesh|Michal Heczko]]

== Danish ==
* [[User:EsbenDamgaard|Esben Damgaard]]
* [[User:UlrikRasmussen|Ulrik Rasmussen]]
* [[User:miki|Mikkel Kirkgaard Nielsen]]

== Dutch ==
* [[User:MarcVerwerft|Marc Verwerft]]
* [[User:Madjo|Marcel De Jong]]
* [[User:OliverH|Oliver Heesakkers]]
* [[User:LuitvD|Luit van Drongelen]]
* [[User:reinouts|Reinout van Schouwen]]

([[User:Madjo|Marcel]] 18/04) Misschien is het handig om alvast te beginnen met vertalen van de Wiki? Of hebben jullie andere ideeen? Ik heb al een start gemaakt van de voorpagina van de wiki, maar ben nog niet veel verder gekomen
([[User:reinouts|Reinout]] 21/04) Valt er verder nog niks te vertalen? De wiki is niet echt boeiend.

== Esperanto ==
* [[User:Antono|Antono Vasiljev]]

== Estonian ==
* [[User:Hadara|Sven Petai]]
* [[User:Myoldryn|Jaan Nigul]]

== Finnish ==
* [[User:Jani-Matti_Hätinen|Jani-Matti Hätinen]]
* [[User:TuomoSipola|Tuomo Sipola]]
* [[User:Eyec|Samuli Perttula]]
* [[User:gua|Atte Hinkka]]

== French ==
* [[User:SebastienJolicoeur|Sebastien Jolicoeur]]
* [[User:MarcSert|Marc Sert]]
* [[User:FoucaultdeBonneval|Foucault deBonneval]]
* [[User:Sufflope|Jean-Sébastien Bour]]
* [[User:Ymahe|Yves Mahé]]

== German ==
* [[User:RobertMichel|Robert Michel]]
* [[User:FabianOff|Fabian Off]]
* [[User:Denis std|Denis]]
* Lars C.
* [[User:AndreasHochsteger|Andreas Hochsteger]]
* [[User:Christophloew|Christoph Löw]]

== Hebrew ==
* [[User:OlegSverdlov|Oleg Sverdlov]]
* [[User:Any_Key|Any_Key]]
* [[User:Koala|Koala]]

== Indonesian ==
* [[User:Hcblue|Hcblue]]

== Italian ==
* [[User:SergioTota|Sergio Tota]]
* [[User:Franco|Franco Rimoldi]]
* [[User:Filippo|Filippo]]
* [[User:Massi|Massimiliano]]
* [[User:Markk0|Marco Cattaneo]]
* [[User:Cga|Callea Gaetano Andrea]]
* [[User:Herod2k|Alessandro]]

== Japanese ==
*[[User:WilliamLai|William Lai]]
*[[Momoko Matsuzaki]]

== Norwegian ==
*[[User:Hanscats|Hans Cats]]
*[[User:Vegar|Vegar Storvann]]

== Polish ==
* [[User:KrzysztofKajkowski|Krzysztof Kajkowski]]
* Tomasz Zieliński
* [[User:MaciejLigenza|Maciej Ligenza]]
* [[User:PiotrDuda|Piotr Duda]]
* [[User:Zbraniecki|Zbigniew Braniecki]]

== Portuguese ==
* Sergio Bessa
* Mario Costa

== Punjabi ==
* [[User:aalam|A S Alam]]

== Romanian ==

* [[User:alexxed|Alexandru Szasz]]

== Russian ==
* [[User:OlegSverdlov|Oleg Sverdlov]]
* [[User:DenisBY|Denis Kot]]
* [[User:MikhailGusarov|Mikhail Gusarov]]
* [[User:x-demon|Alexander Sokolow]]
* [[User:Any_Key|Any_Key]]
* [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]]
* [[User:Buffet|Denis Kaledin]]
Можем начинать переводить wiki :)
К любой странице добавляете /ru и переводите. В конце оригинальной страницы и переведенной добавляете ссылку на шаблон
<nowiki>{{Languages|Имя_страницы_оригинала}}</nowiki>

== Slovak ==
* [[User:Cezz|Cezz]]

== Spanish ==
* [[User:RosangelaCaninoKoning|Rosangela CaninoKoning]]
* [[User:kresp0|Santiago Crespo (kresp0)]]
* [[User:José_Suárez|José Suárez]]
* [[User:Rafa_Couto|Rafa Couto (caligari)]]
* [[User:NeoMorfeo|Guillermo Santos (NeoMorfeo)]]
* [[User:Mandarino|Mandarino]]
* [[User:pptudela|Pepe Tudela]]
* [[User:avathar|Fernando González (Avathar)]]

== Swedish ==
* [[User:yeager|Daniel Nylander]]

== Turkish ==
* [[User:EnginErenturk|Engin Erenturk]]

== Welsh ==
* [[User:Rhoslyn_Prys|Rhoslyn Prys]]

And feel free to join and add an new language to this list above.

Translation HOWTO

2007-05-13T09:38:07Z

Cga: /* Common space for localisation effort */

Main page for localisation is [[Translation]]
help to improve this page
== Finding what to translate ==
First of all package creator/maintainer have to create *.pot file with all messages included.
Search for this files in source tree and you can edit them.

== Translating ==
Rule of thumb: It's better to have some translation than nothing, so feel free to translate.

== Software ==
There are specialised tools for *.pot (*.po) files edition gtranslator, po4a, poedit, pootle, potool ...
Most of text editors wiil fit also: vim, emax, ed ...
== Updating source tree ==
{{todo|descript SVN update after editing}}
== Notes ==
* Encoding for *.po is UTF-8
* Most of packages in Openembedded tree allready iternationalised, its worth to review them
== Common space for localisation effort ==
'''please join the community ml for now.''' there's also some talking about creating a translators ml [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Translation#Need_for_translation_mailing_list_.28and_coordinators.3F.29 here] [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-April/004973.html and here: OM-i18n-ml] feel free to join both discussions. [[User:Cga|cga]] sat apr 28th 20:48:35 CEST 2007)

== List of OpenMoko related PO's==
Most of apps in /home/moko/sources/svn/ and /home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/ don have *.pot files for now, but some of them have *.po files for some of the languages

{{Languages|Translation_HOWTO}}

Talk:Translation

2007-05-13T08:56:07Z

Cga:

==Translation status==
one master "skeleton" page with all the [[applications]] preformatted in tables and initial status ''to translate'', and one page per language with progress status based on the master page:

==Example for Skeleton translation table==

===Contacts===
{|
|-
| [[Contacts]]
|
{| border=1
|file1
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file2
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file3
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

===Calendar===
{|
|-
| [[Calendar]]
|
{|border=1
|file4
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file5
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file6
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

==Example for pages with translation status==
===Contacts===
{|
|-
| [[Contacts]]
|
{| border=1
|file1
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file2
| bgcolor=#FFEBAD |In progress since yyyy-mm-dd
|-
|file3
| bgcolor=#B9FFC5 | translated yyyy-mm-dd
|}
|}

===Calendar===
{|
|-
| [[Calendar]]
|
{|border=1
|file4
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file5
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file6
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

== Need for translation mailing list (and coordinators?) ==
Who is coordinating translation, in paticular, russian one? I would be nice to see the progress and where is newcomers can fit in. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 05:33, 23 February 2007 (CET)
: There is already main SVN which probably will contain all the translations (I think it is no problem for OpenMoko team). I propose to create mailing list for translators (like Debian's <code>debian-l10n-russian@</code> list), and wiki page "how to start translating", with the name of coordinator (do you want to be the coordinator? ;), mailing list name, translation rules and so on. [[User:MikhailGusarov|MikhailGusarov]] 07:42, 23 February 2007 (CET)
::For coordination - we just have to have a list of files to translate and status of them such as ''translated, in progress, to translate'' see the table below. It can be done by creating progress pages (such as Translation_ru for russian language) with list of all [[applications]] and status of translation. The tools and commands how to retrive files for translation and submit translated version to the appropriate destination IMO should be on the [[Translation| top of the page]] - it would not take much space. Maillist for each language, where is ppl willing to work, would be very helpfull. However, since all the translators able to read and write in english - we can use regular maillist for developers, or just one dedicated maillist for all translators. Also I doubt nessesity to split wiki on language basis at present time. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 09:03, 23 February 2007 (CET)
::: As i posted on the community mailinglist i think we *really* need a translatoin mailing list (if not one for every language) , i aggree with the abovementined need for a coordinator too even if not so necessery IMHO. '''join the discussion [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-April/004973.html OM-i18n-ml] on the community mailinglist.''' [[User:Cga|cga]] sat apr 28th 20:24:38 CEST 2007

== Rosetta is a nice tool ==

I use Rosetta when I'm translating programs in Ubuntu. It works very good.
Maybe we could use that, or be inspired by that.
https://translations.launchpad.net/
Try looking in the page given.
[[User:EsbenDamgaard|EsbenDamgaard]] 14:50, 21 March 2007 (CET)

* Rosetta could be nice but is closed source. if i was "you" I'd try to be as open as possible. there are good software already for po* files. but hey.. you are free to do what you want =)

Translation

2007-04-29T17:14:14Z

Cga:

Let us spread the popularity of OpenMoko/Neo1973 by
- localization of the software
- translation of documentation

Just as an overview who is able and willing to translate parts into other languages,
please join and add your Language and name. The source for the translation will
be English. When you have good English skills - you could contribute by correct
the sources :)

A good point to start would be to continuous translating of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMoko into more languages on the other language sites of wikipedia.

"...it is easy to join and spend some minutes for translating,
and when someone finds some mistakes in any languages don't
blame the translator - just be productive and fix it yourself!" -[[User:RobertMichel|Robert Michel]]

Please take a look at [[Translation HOWTO]] and improve it if possible.

Languages already offered on our community mailinglist, please add your name yourself and join community mailinglist to discuss about translations:

== Afrikaans ==

== Armenian ==
* [[User:surenk|Suren Karapetyan]]

== Arabic ==
* Hossam Mahmoud

== Catalan ==

* [[User:montxovs|Montxo Vicente i Sempere]]

* [[User:Mandarino|Mandarino]]

== Chinese (Simplified)==
* [[User:JarodWang|JarodWang]]
* xyb

== Czech ==
* [[User:Mikesh|Michal Heczko]]

== Danish ==
* [[User:EsbenDamgaard|Esben Damgaard]]
* [[User:UlrikRasmussen|Ulrik Rasmussen]]
* [[User:miki|Mikkel Kirkgaard Nielsen]]

== Dutch ==
* [[User:MarcVerwerft|Marc Verwerft]]
* [[User:Madjo|Marcel De Jong]]
* [[User:OliverH|Oliver Heesakkers]]
* [[User:LuitvD|Luit van Drongelen]]
* [[User:reinouts|Reinout van Schouwen]]

([[User:Madjo|Marcel]] 18/04) Misschien is het handig om alvast te beginnen met vertalen van de Wiki? Of hebben jullie andere ideeen? Ik heb al een start gemaakt van de voorpagina van de wiki, maar ben nog niet veel verder gekomen
([[User:reinouts|Reinout]] 21/04) Valt er verder nog niks te vertalen? De wiki is niet echt boeiend.

== Estonian ==
* [[User:Hadara|Sven Petai]]
* [[User:Myoldryn|Jaan Nigul]]

== Finnish ==
* [[User:Jani-Matti_Hätinen|Jani-Matti Hätinen]]
* [[User:TuomoSipola|Tuomo Sipola]]
* [[User:Eyec|Samuli Perttula]]
* [[User:gua|Atte Hinkka]]

== French ==
* [[User:SebastienJolicoeur|Sebastien Jolicoeur]]
* [[User:MarcSert|Marc Sert]]
* [[User:FoucaultdeBonneval|Foucault deBonneval]]
* [[User:Sufflope|Jean-Sébastien Bour]]
* [[User:Ymahe|Yves Mahé]]

== German ==
* [[User:RobertMichel|Robert Michel]]
* [[User:FabianOff|Fabian Off]]
* [[User:Denis std|Denis]]
* Lars C.
* [[User:AndreasHochsteger|Andreas Hochsteger]]
* [[User:Christophloew|Christoph Löw]]

== Hebrew ==
* [[User:OlegSverdlov|Oleg Sverdlov]]
* [[User:Any_Key|Any_Key]]
* [[User:Koala|Koala]]

== Indonesian ==
* [[User:Hcblue|Hcblue]]

== Italian ==
* [[User:SergioTota|Sergio Tota]]
* [[User:Franco|Franco Rimoldi]]
* [[User:Filippo|Filippo]]
* [[User:Massi|Massimiliano]]
* [[User:Markk0|Marco Cattaneo]]
* [[User:Cga|Callea Gaetano Andrea]]

== Japanese ==
*[[User:WilliamLai|William Lai]]
*[[Momoko Matsuzaki]]

== Norwegian ==
*[[User:Hanscats|Hans Cats]]
*[[User:Vegar|Vegar Storvann]]

== Polish ==
* [[User:KrzysztofKajkowski|Krzysztof Kajkowski]]
* Tomasz Zieliński
* [[User:MaciejLigenza|Maciej Ligenza]]
* [[User:PiotrDuda|Piotr Duda]]
* [[User:Zbraniecki|Zbigniew Braniecki]]

== Portuguese ==
* Sergio Bessa
* Mario Costa

== Punjabi ==
* [[User:aalam|A S Alam]]

== Romanian ==

* [[User:alexxed|Alexandru Szasz]]

== Russian ==
* [[User:OlegSverdlov|Oleg Sverdlov]]
* [[User:DenisBY|Denis Kot]]
* [[User:MikhailGusarov|Mikhail Gusarov]]
* [[User:x-demon|Alexander Sokolow]]
* [[User:Any_Key|Any_Key]]
* [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]]
* [[User:Buffet|Denis Kaledin]]
Можем начинать переводить wiki :)
К любой странице добавляете /ru и переводите. В конце оригинальной страницы и переведенной добавляете ссылку на шаблон
<nowiki>{{Languages|Имя_страницы_оригинала}}</nowiki>

== Slovak ==
* [[User:Cezz|Cezz]]

== Spanish ==
* [[User:RosangelaCaninoKoning|Rosangela CaninoKoning]]
* [[User:kresp0|Santiago Crespo (kresp0)]]
* [[User:José_Suárez|José Suárez]]
* [[User:Rafa_Couto|Rafa Couto (caligari)]]
* [[User:NeoMorfeo|Guillermo Santos (NeoMorfeo)]]
* [[User:Mandarino|Mandarino]]
* [[User:pptudela|Pepe Tudela]]
* [[User:avathar|Fernando González (Avathar)]]

== Swedish ==
* [[User:yeager|Daniel Nylander]]

== Turkish ==
* [[User:EnginErenturk|Engin Erenturk]]

== Welsh ==
* [[User:Rhoslyn_Prys|Rhoslyn Prys]]

And feel free to join and add an new language to this list above.

Translation HOWTO

2007-04-28T18:52:43Z

Cga: /* Common space for localisation effort */

Main page for localisation is [[Translation]]
help to improve this page
== Finding what to translate ==
First of all package creator/maintainer have to create *.pot file with all messages included.
Search for this files in source tree and you can edit them.

== Translating ==
Rule of thumb: It's better to have some translation than nothing, so feel free to translate.

== Software ==
There are specialised tools for *.pot (*.po) files edition gtranslator, po4a, poedit, pootle, potool ...
Most of text editors wiil fit also: vim, emax, ed ...
== Updating source tree ==
{{todo|descript SVN update after editing}}
== Notes ==
* Encoding for *.po is UTF-8
* Most of packages in Openembedded tree allready iternationalised, its worth to review them
== Common space for localisation effort ==
openmoko-dev maillist may be perfect place for all tlocalisators to meet, it also possible to tag email hesders with [i18n] for example.
: this is a contradiction with the actual situation. '''please join the community ml for now.''' there's also some talking about creating a translator ml [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Translation#Need_for_translation_mailing_list_.28and_coordinators.3F.29 here] [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-April/004973.html and here: OM-i18n-ml] (i just posted on the community mailinglist '''feel free to join both discussions''' ). [[User:Cga|cga]] sat apr 28th 20:48:35 CEST 2007)

== List of OpenMoko related PO's==
Most of apps in /home/moko/sources/svn/ and /home/moko/openmoko/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/ don have *.pot files for now, but some of them have *.po files for some of the languages

User:Cga

2007-04-28T18:46:02Z

Cga: /* Contact info */

<table width="40%" align="right" cellspacing="3" cellpadding="8">
<tr><td style="border: 1px yellow dotted; background-color: #000000">
'''Don't stop looking for what you Love''' 
'''or you'll end up loving what you find...''' 

</td></tr></table>

==Contact info==
[[Special:Emailuser/Cga|Send me an email (don't abuse please)]] 
'''Instead of emailing, feel free to contact me on:''' 
'''Jabber''': CGA@jabber.linux.it 
'''MSN''': liquixum@hotmail.com

User:Cga

2007-04-28T18:37:55Z

Cga:

<table width="40%" align="right" cellspacing="3" cellpadding="8">
<tr><td style="border: 1px yellow dotted; background-color: #000000">
'''Don't stop looking for what you Love''' 
'''or you'll end up loving what you find...''' 

</td></tr></table>

==Contact info==
[[Special:Emailuser/Cga|Send me an email (don't abuse please)]] 
'''Jabber''': CGA@jabber.linux.it 
'''MSN''': liquixum@hotmail.com

Talk:Translation

2007-04-28T18:26:21Z

Cga: /* Need for translation mailing list (and coordinators?) */

==Translation status==
one master "skeleton" page with all the [[applications]] preformatted in tables and initial status ''to translate'', and one page per language with progress status based on the master page:

== Need for translation mailing list (and coordinators?) ==
Who is coordinating translation, in paticular, russian one? I would be nice to see the progress and where is newcomers can fit in. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 05:33, 23 February 2007 (CET)
: There is already main SVN which probably will contain all the translations (I think it is no problem for OpenMoko team). I propose to create mailing list for translators (like Debian's <code>debian-l10n-russian@</code> list), and wiki page "how to start translating", with the name of coordinator (do you want to be the coordinator? ;), mailing list name, translation rules and so on. [[User:MikhailGusarov|MikhailGusarov]] 07:42, 23 February 2007 (CET)
::For coordination - we just have to have a list of files to translate and status of them such as ''translated, in progress, to translate'' see the table below. It can be done by creating progress pages (such as Translation_ru for russian language) with list of all [[applications]] and status of translation. The tools and commands how to retrive files for translation and submit translated version to the appropriate destination IMO should be on the [[Translation| top of the page]] - it would not take much space. Maillist for each language, where is ppl willing to work, would be very helpfull. However, since all the translators able to read and write in english - we can use regular maillist for developers, or just one dedicated maillist for all translators. Also I doubt nessesity to split wiki on language basis at present time. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 09:03, 23 February 2007 (CET)
::: As i posted on the community mailinglist i think we *really* need a translatoin mailing list (if not one for every language) , i aggree with the abovementined need for a coordinator too even if not so necessery IMHO. '''join the discussion [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-April/004973.html OM-i18n-ml] on the community mailinglist.''' [[User:Cga|cga]] sat apr 28th 20:24:38 CEST 2007

==Example for Skeleton translation table==

===Contacts===
{|
|-
| [[Contacts]]
|
{| border=1
|file1
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file2
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file3
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

===Calendar===
{|
|-
| [[Calendar]]
|
{|border=1
|file4
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file5
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file6
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

==Example for pages with translation status==
===Contacts===
{|
|-
| [[Contacts]]
|
{| border=1
|file1
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file2
| bgcolor=#FFEBAD |In progress since yyyy-mm-dd
|-
|file3
| bgcolor=#B9FFC5 | translated yyyy-mm-dd
|}
|}

===Calendar===
{|
|-
| [[Calendar]]
|
{|border=1
|file4
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file5
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file6
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

== Rosetta is a nice tool ==

I use Rosetta when I'm translating programs in Ubuntu. It works very good.
Maybe we could use that, or be inspired by that.
https://translations.launchpad.net/
Try looking in the page given.
[[User:EsbenDamgaard|EsbenDamgaard]] 14:50, 21 March 2007 (CET)

* Rosetta could be nice but is closed source. if i was "you" I'd try to be as open as possible. there are good software already for po* files. but hey.. you are free to do what you want =)

Talk:Translation

2007-04-28T18:23:44Z

Cga:

==Translation status==
one master "skeleton" page with all the [[applications]] preformatted in tables and initial status ''to translate'', and one page per language with progress status based on the master page:

== Need for translation mailing list (and coordinators?) ==
Who is coordinating translation, in paticular, russian one? I would be nice to see the progress and where is newcomers can fit in. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 05:33, 23 February 2007 (CET)
: There is already main SVN which probably will contain all the translations (I think it is no problem for OpenMoko team). I propose to create mailing list for translators (like Debian's <code>debian-l10n-russian@</code> list), and wiki page "how to start translating", with the name of coordinator (do you want to be the coordinator? ;), mailing list name, translation rules and so on. [[User:MikhailGusarov|MikhailGusarov]] 07:42, 23 February 2007 (CET)
::For coordination - we just have to have a list of files to translate and status of them such as ''translated, in progress, to translate'' see the table below. It can be done by creating progress pages (such as Translation_ru for russian language) with list of all [[applications]] and status of translation. The tools and commands how to retrive files for translation and submit translated version to the appropriate destination IMO should be on the [[Translation| top of the page]] - it would not take much space. Maillist for each language, where is ppl willing to work, would be very helpfull. However, since all the translators able to read and write in english - we can use regular maillist for developers, or just one dedicated maillist for all translators. Also I doubt nessesity to split wiki on language basis at present time. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 09:03, 23 February 2007 (CET)
::: As i posted on the community mailinglist i think we *really* need a translatoin mailing list (if not one for every language) , i aggree with the abovementined need for a coordinator too even if not so necessery IMHO. '''join the discussion [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-April/004973.html OM-i18n-ml] on the community mailinglist.'''

==Example for Skeleton translation table==

===Contacts===
{|
|-
| [[Contacts]]
|
{| border=1
|file1
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file2
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file3
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

===Calendar===
{|
|-
| [[Calendar]]
|
{|border=1
|file4
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file5
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file6
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

==Example for pages with translation status==
===Contacts===
{|
|-
| [[Contacts]]
|
{| border=1
|file1
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file2
| bgcolor=#FFEBAD |In progress since yyyy-mm-dd
|-
|file3
| bgcolor=#B9FFC5 | translated yyyy-mm-dd
|}
|}

===Calendar===
{|
|-
| [[Calendar]]
|
{|border=1
|file4
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file5
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file6
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

== Rosetta is a nice tool ==

I use Rosetta when I'm translating programs in Ubuntu. It works very good.
Maybe we could use that, or be inspired by that.
https://translations.launchpad.net/
Try looking in the page given.
[[User:EsbenDamgaard|EsbenDamgaard]] 14:50, 21 March 2007 (CET)

* Rosetta could be nice but is closed source. if i was "you" I'd try to be as open as possible. there are good software already for po* files. but hey.. you are free to do what you want =)

Talk:Translation

2007-04-28T17:46:26Z

Cga: /* Rosetta is a nice tool */

Who is coordinating translation, in paticular, russian one? I would be nice to see the progress and where is newcomers can fit in. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 05:33, 23 February 2007 (CET)
: There is already main SVN which probably will contain all the translations (I think it is no problem for OpenMoko team). I propose to create mailing list for translators (like Debian's <code>debian-l10n-russian@</code> list), and wiki page "how to start translating", with the name of coordinator (do you want to be the coordinator? ;), mailing list name, translation rules and so on. [[User:MikhailGusarov|MikhailGusarov]] 07:42, 23 February 2007 (CET)
::For coordination - we just have to have a list of files to translate and status of them such as ''translated, in progress, to translate'' see the table below. It can be done by creating progress pages (such as Translation_ru for russian language) with list of all [[applications]] and status of translation. The tools and commands how to retrive files for translation and submit translated version to the appropriate destination IMO should be on the [[Translation| top of the page]] - it would not take much space. Maillist for each language, where is ppl willing to work, would be very helpfull. However, since all the translators able to read and write in english - we can use regular maillist for developers, or just one dedicated maillist for all translators. Also I doubt nessesity to split wiki on language basis at present time. [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]] 09:03, 23 February 2007 (CET)
==Translation status==
one master "skeleton" page with all the [[applications]] preformatted in tables and initial status ''to translate'', and one page per language with progress status based on the master page:

Example/Skeleton of the translation table
==Example for Skeleton translation table==
===Contacts===
{|
|-
| [[Contacts]]
|
{| border=1
|file1
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file2
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file3
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

===Calendar===
{|
|-
| [[Calendar]]
|
{|border=1
|file4
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file5
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file6
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

==Example for pages with translation status==
===Contacts===
{|
|-
| [[Contacts]]
|
{| border=1
|file1
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file2
| bgcolor=#FFEBAD |In progress since yyyy-mm-dd
|-
|file3
| bgcolor=#B9FFC5 | translated yyyy-mm-dd
|}
|}

===Calendar===
{|
|-
| [[Calendar]]
|
{|border=1
|file4
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file5
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|-
|file6
|bgcolor=#AAAAAA | to translate
|}
|}

== Rosetta is a nice tool ==

I use Rosetta when I'm translating programs in Ubuntu. It works very good.
Maybe we could use that, or be inspired by that.
https://translations.launchpad.net/
Try looking in the page given.
[[User:EsbenDamgaard|EsbenDamgaard]] 14:50, 21 March 2007 (CET)

* Rosetta could be nice but is closed source. if i was "you" I'd try to be as open as possible. there are good software already for po* files. but hey.. you are free to do what you want =)

Translation

2007-04-28T17:16:42Z

Cga: /* Italian */

Let us spread the popularity of OpenMoko/Neo1973 by
- localization of the software
- translation of documentation

Just as an overview who is able and willing to translate parts into other languages,
please join and add your Language and name. The source for the translation will
be English. When you have good English skills - you could contribute by correct
the sources :)

A good point to start would be to continuous translating of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMoko into more languages on the other language sites of wikipedia.

"...it is easy to join and spend some minutes for translating,
and when someone finds some mistakes in any languages don't
blame the translator - just be productive and fix it yourself!" -[[User:RobertMichel|Robert Michel]]

Please take a look at [[Translation HOWTO]] and improve it if possible.

Languages already offered on our community mailinglist, please add your name yourself:

== Afrikaans ==

== Armenian ==
* [[User:surenk|Suren Karapetyan]]

== Arabic ==
* Hossam Mahmoud

== Catalan ==

* [[User:montxovs|Montxo Vicente i Sempere]]

* [[User:Mandarino|Mandarino]]

== Chinese (Simplified)==
* [[User:JarodWang|JarodWang]]
* xyb

== Czech ==
* [[User:Mikesh|Michal Heczko]]

== Danish ==
* [[User:EsbenDamgaard|Esben Damgaard]]
* [[User:UlrikRasmussen|Ulrik Rasmussen]]
* [[User:miki|Mikkel Kirkgaard Nielsen]]

== Dutch ==
* [[User:MarcVerwerft|Marc Verwerft]]
* [[User:Madjo|Marcel De Jong]]
* [[User:OliverH|Oliver Heesakkers]]
* [[User:LuitvD|Luit van Drongelen]]
* [[User:reinouts|Reinout van Schouwen]]

([[User:Madjo|Marcel]] 18/04) Misschien is het handig om alvast te beginnen met vertalen van de Wiki? Of hebben jullie andere ideeen? Ik heb al een start gemaakt van de voorpagina van de wiki, maar ben nog niet veel verder gekomen
([[User:reinouts|Reinout]] 21/04) Valt er verder nog niks te vertalen? De wiki is niet echt boeiend.

== Estonian ==
* [[User:Hadara|Sven Petai]]
* [[User:Myoldryn|Jaan Nigul]]

== Finnish ==
* [[User:Jani-Matti_Hätinen|Jani-Matti Hätinen]]
* [[User:TuomoSipola|Tuomo Sipola]]
* [[User:Eyec|Samuli Perttula]]
* [[User:gua|Atte Hinkka]]

== French ==
* [[User:SebastienJolicoeur|Sebastien Jolicoeur]]
* [[User:MarcSert|Marc Sert]]
* [[User:FoucaultdeBonneval|Foucault deBonneval]]
* [[User:Sufflope|Jean-Sébastien Bour]]
* [[User:Ymahe|Yves Mahé]]

== German ==
* [[User:RobertMichel|Robert Michel]]
* [[User:FabianOff|Fabian Off]]
* [[User:Denis std|Denis]]
* Lars C.
* [[User:AndreasHochsteger|Andreas Hochsteger]]
* [[User:Christophloew|Christoph Löw]]

== Hebrew ==
* [[User:OlegSverdlov|Oleg Sverdlov]]
* [[User:Any_Key|Any_Key]]
* [[User:Koala|Koala]]

== Indonesian ==
* [[User:Hcblue|Hcblue]]

== Italian ==
* [[User:SergioTota|Sergio Tota]]
* [[User:Franco|Franco Rimoldi]]
* [[User:Filippo|Filippo]]
* [[User:Massi|Massimiliano]]
* [[User:Markk0|Marco Cattaneo]]
* [[User:Cga|Callea Gaetano Andrea]]

== Japanese ==
*[[User:WilliamLai|William Lai]]
*[[Momoko Matsuzaki]]

== Norwegian ==
*[[User:Hanscats|Hans Cats]]
*[[User:Vegar|Vegar Storvann]]

== Polish ==
* [[User:KrzysztofKajkowski|Krzysztof Kajkowski]]
* Tomasz Zieliński
* [[User:MaciejLigenza|Maciej Ligenza]]
* [[User:PiotrDuda|Piotr Duda]]
* [[User:Zbraniecki|Zbigniew Braniecki]]

== Portuguese ==
* Sergio Bessa
* Mario Costa

== Punjabi ==
* [[User:aalam|A S Alam]]

== Romanian ==

* [[User:alexxed|Alexandru Szasz]]

== Russian ==
* [[User:OlegSverdlov|Oleg Sverdlov]]
* [[User:DenisBY|Denis Kot]]
* [[User:MikhailGusarov|Mikhail Gusarov]]
* [[User:x-demon|Alexander Sokolow]]
* [[User:Any_Key|Any_Key]]
* [[User:Dmitri|Dmitri]]
* [[User:Buffet|Denis Kaledin]]
Можем начинать переводить wiki :)
К любой странице добавляете /ru и переводите. В конце оригинальной страницы и переведенной добавляете ссылку на шаблон
<nowiki>{{Languages|Имя_страницы_оригинала}}</nowiki>

== Slovak ==
* [[User:Cezz|Cezz]]

== Spanish ==
* [[User:RosangelaCaninoKoning|Rosangela CaninoKoning]]
* [[User:kresp0|Santiago Crespo (kresp0)]]
* [[User:José_Suárez|José Suárez]]
* [[User:Rafa_Couto|Rafa Couto (caligari)]]
* [[User:NeoMorfeo|Guillermo Santos (NeoMorfeo)]]
* [[User:Mandarino|Mandarino]]
* [[User:pptudela|Pepe Tudela]]
* [[User:avathar|Fernando González (Avathar)]]

== Swedish ==
* [[User:yeager|Daniel Nylander]]

== Turkish ==
* [[User:EnginErenturk|Engin Erenturk]]

== Welsh ==
* [[User:Rhoslyn_Prys|Rhoslyn Prys]]

And feel free to join and add an new language to this list above.