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<div style="padding: 2.5ex; text-align: center; font: bold x-large sans">Openmoko™ - Abierto. Móvil. Libre.</div><br />
Openmoko es un proyecto de [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Código Abierto] para crear el primer sistema operativo libre para teléfonos móviles a nivel mundial. Openmoko actuamente esta vendiendo el teléfono [[Neo FreeRunner/es|Neo FreeRunner]] a usuarios avanzados con conocimientos técnicos y empezará la venta al público en general tan pronto com el software este lo suficientemente desarrollado.<br />
<br />
El sistema operativo Openmoko, que incluye un servidor X completo, permite a los usuarios y a los desarrolladores transformar el hardware de los móviles en productos únicos. Nuestra licencia proporciona a los desarrolladores y a los usuarios libertad para realizar ligeros cambios estéticos o transformarlo radicalmente; cambiar el fondo de pantalla o reprogramar desde cero el móvil entero!. La licencia te garantiza la libertad de por ejemplo, transformar el teléfono en un dispositivo médico o en un punto de venta o simplemente instalar tus juegos favoritos. Mas allá de liberar el software en nuestros aparatos también facilitamos los archivos CAD bajo licencia Creative Commons. Y en el Linux World 2008 hemos anunciado la publicación de los esquemas internos de nuestros productos.<br />
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<table class="wikitable" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="6" width="100%" style="color:white"><br />
<tr style="background:#ff6600; text-align:center; font-weight:bold"><br />
<td width="50%">Noticias y Eventos</td><br />
<td width="50%">Nuevo en Openmoko?</td><br />
</tr><br />
<tr valign="top" style="background:#333333"><br />
<td><br />
* 2011-02-01: [[Community_Updates/2011-02-01|Importante noticia sobre la continuación del proyecto -En inglés-]]<br />
* 2008-10-09: [[Weekly Engineering News|Noticias Semanales de Ingeniería Openmoko]]<br />
* 2008-10-06: [[Community Updates/2008-10-03|Actualizaciones comunitaria]]<br />
* 2008-10-02: Nokia publica [http://qtextended.org/ Qt Extended 4.4.1] ([http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=86 image], [http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=85 SDK])<br />
* 2008-09-27: otra actualización [[FDOM]]<br />
* 2008-09-19: revisión destacada de [[Om_2008.9_Update|Om 2008.9]]<br />
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</td><br />
<td><br />
===<font color=white>Sobre Openmoko</font>===<br />
* [[Introduction/es|Introducción]]<br />
* [[Why Openmoko|Porqué Openmoko?]]<br />
* [[Neo FreeRunner/es|Teléfono Neo FreeRunner]]<br />
* [[Supported_devices/es| Hardware compatible]]<br />
* [[FAQ|Preguntas Mas Frecuentes(FAQ)]]<br />
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===<font color=white>Obteniendo Openmoko</font>===<br />
* [[Getting Openmoko|Obteniendo Openmoko]]<br />
* [http://www.openmoko.com Openmoko Inc.]<br />
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</tr><br />
<tr style="background:#ff6600; text-align:center; font-weight:bold"><br />
<td width="50%">para Usuarios</td><br />
<td width="50%">para Desarrolladores</td><br />
</tr><br />
<tr valign="top" style="background:#333333"><br />
<td><br />
===<font color=white>Empezando</font>===<br />
* [[Getting Started with your Neo FreeRunner/es | Guía Empezando con el Neo FreeRunner]]<br />
* [[Applications|Aplicaciones]]<br />
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===<font color=white>Software</font>===<br />
* [[Distributions|Comparativa de Características]]<br />
** [[Om_2008.8/es|Om 2008.8 (ASU en desarollo)]]-[[Om_2007.2/es|Om 2007.2 (antigua estable)]]<br />
** [[OpenmokoFramework|FSO]]-[[Qtopia_on_FreeRunner|Qtopia]]-[[Debian|Debian ]]- [[Gentoo|Gentoo]]<br />
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===<font color=white>Comunidad Openmoko</font>===<br />
* [[Discussion_Forums| Fora ]]<br />
* [[Development_resources#local-openmoko-spain.40projects.openmoko.org|Lista de correo de local-community-spain]]<br />
* [[Community Repository]]<br />
* [[Development resources | Recursos para desarrolladores]]<br />
</td><br />
<td><br />
===<font color=white>Desarrollo de aplicaciones</font>===<br />
* [[Openmoko developer guide]]<br />
* [[Toolchain|The toolchain]]<br />
<!-- * <font color=white>VMware</font> --><br />
* [[Python|Introduction to Python]]<br />
* [http://projects.openmoko.org/ Projects hosted in our GForge]<br />
<br />
===<font color=white>Integración y Distribuciones</font>===<br />
* [[OpenEmbedded|The OpenEmbedded distribution building framework]]<br />
* [[MokoMakefile|Building Openmoko using the MokoMakefile ]]<br />
* [[Opkg|Opkg the package manager]]<br />
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===<font color=white>Emulación</font>===<br />
* [[Openmoko under QEMU]]<br />
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</table></div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page/esMain Page/es2011-02-22T20:34:04Z<p>Arw: </p>
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<div>{{Languages|Main Page}}<br />
__NOTOC__<br />
__NOEDITSECTION__ [[Image:Freerunner02.gif|thumb|150px|right|Neo FreeRunners]]<br />
<br />
<div style="padding: 2.5ex; text-align: center; font: bold x-large sans">Openmoko™ - Abierto. Móvil. Libre.</div><br />
Openmoko es un proyecto de [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Código Abierto] para crear el primer sistema operativo libre para teléfonos móviles a nivel mundial. Openmoko actuamente esta vendiendo el teléfono [[Neo FreeRunner/es|Neo FreeRunner]] a usuarios avanzados con conocimientos técnicos y empezará la venta al público en general tan pronto com el software este lo suficientemente desarrollado.<br />
<br />
El sistema operativo Openmoko, que incluye un servidor X completo, permite a los usuarios y a los desarrolladores transformar el hardware de los móviles en productos únicos. Nuestra licencia proporciona a los desarrolladores y a los usuarios libertad para realizar ligeros cambios estéticos o transformarlo radicalmente; cambiar el fondo de pantalla o reprogramar desde cero el móvil entero!. La licencia te garantiza la libertad de por ejemplo, transformar el teléfono en un dispositivo médico o en un punto de venta o simplemente instalar tus juegos favoritos. Mas allá de liberar el software en nuestros aparatos también facilitamos los archivos CAD bajo licencia Creative Commons. Y en el Linux World 2008 hemos anunciado la publicación de los esquemas internos de nuestros productos.<br />
<br />
<div style="clear:both">&nbsp;</div><br />
<br />
<table class="wikitable" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="6" width="100%" style="color:white"><br />
<tr style="background:#ff6600; text-align:center; font-weight:bold"><br />
<td width="50%">Noticias y Eventos</td><br />
<td width="50%">Nuevo en Openmoko?</td><br />
</tr><br />
<tr valign="top" style="background:#333333"><br />
<td><br />
* 2011-02-01: [[Community_Updates/2011-02-01|Importante noticia sobre la continuación del proyecto-Inglés-]]<br />
* 2008-10-09: [[Weekly Engineering News|Noticias Semanales de Ingeniería Openmoko]]<br />
* 2008-10-06: [[Community Updates/2008-10-03|Actualizaciones comunitaria]]<br />
* 2008-10-02: Nokia publica [http://qtextended.org/ Qt Extended 4.4.1] ([http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=86 image], [http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=85 SDK])<br />
* 2008-09-27: otra actualización [[FDOM]]<br />
* 2008-09-19: revisión destacada de [[Om_2008.9_Update|Om 2008.9]]<br />
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</td><br />
<td><br />
===<font color=white>Sobre Openmoko</font>===<br />
* [[Introduction/es|Introducción]]<br />
* [[Why Openmoko|Porqué Openmoko?]]<br />
* [[Neo FreeRunner/es|Teléfono Neo FreeRunner]]<br />
* [[Supported_devices/es| Hardware compatible]]<br />
* [[FAQ|Preguntas Mas Frecuentes(FAQ)]]<br />
<br />
===<font color=white>Obteniendo Openmoko</font>===<br />
* [[Getting Openmoko|Obteniendo Openmoko]]<br />
* [http://www.openmoko.com Openmoko Inc.]<br />
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</td><br />
</tr><br />
<tr style="background:#ff6600; text-align:center; font-weight:bold"><br />
<td width="50%">para Usuarios</td><br />
<td width="50%">para Desarrolladores</td><br />
</tr><br />
<tr valign="top" style="background:#333333"><br />
<td><br />
===<font color=white>Empezando</font>===<br />
* [[Getting Started with your Neo FreeRunner/es | Guía Empezando con el Neo FreeRunner]]<br />
* [[Applications|Aplicaciones]]<br />
<br />
===<font color=white>Software</font>===<br />
* [[Distributions|Comparativa de Características]]<br />
** [[Om_2008.8/es|Om 2008.8 (ASU en desarollo)]]-[[Om_2007.2/es|Om 2007.2 (antigua estable)]]<br />
** [[OpenmokoFramework|FSO]]-[[Qtopia_on_FreeRunner|Qtopia]]-[[Debian|Debian ]]- [[Gentoo|Gentoo]]<br />
<br />
===<font color=white>Comunidad Openmoko</font>===<br />
* [[Discussion_Forums| Fora ]]<br />
* [[Development_resources#local-openmoko-spain.40projects.openmoko.org|Lista de correo de local-community-spain]]<br />
* [[Community Repository]]<br />
* [[Development resources | Recursos para desarrolladores]]<br />
</td><br />
<td><br />
===<font color=white>Desarrollo de aplicaciones</font>===<br />
* [[Openmoko developer guide]]<br />
* [[Toolchain|The toolchain]]<br />
<!-- * <font color=white>VMware</font> --><br />
* [[Python|Introduction to Python]]<br />
* [http://projects.openmoko.org/ Projects hosted in our GForge]<br />
<br />
===<font color=white>Integración y Distribuciones</font>===<br />
* [[OpenEmbedded|The OpenEmbedded distribution building framework]]<br />
* [[MokoMakefile|Building Openmoko using the MokoMakefile ]]<br />
* [[Opkg|Opkg the package manager]]<br />
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===<font color=white>Emulación</font>===<br />
* [[Openmoko under QEMU]]<br />
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</tr><br />
</table></div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Group_salesGroup sales2008-06-27T16:22:34Z<p>Arw: /* Bogotá */</p>
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<div>Openmoko have announced a scheme to sell the forthcoming Neo Freerunner at a discount if bought in multiples of 10 (US$369, instead of 399), to be shipped in one package. Group buying will thus save money on the purchase, and on the shipping. This page is to to organise group purchases by region.<br />
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For calculating shipping costs, the dimensions of one 10-pack is 435mm x 371mm x 119mm. The weight should be around 3kg.<br />
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Steve from Openmoko announced "Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets."<br />
So join us within a local group !<br />
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== [[Group Sales Australia| Australia ]]==<br />
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== Austria ==<br />
There is a group-buy page at MetaLab, available here: http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko .. we almost have the full 10 slots assigned, and its quite possible that we will order *20* phones, so please register on the Metalab pages and let us know if you're interested .. <br />
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=== Salzburg ===<br />
Status: 1/10<br />
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* D. Kepplinger (at MetaLab)<br />
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=== Wien ===<br />
Status: 2/10<br />
* M. Greifeneder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mikegr Contact me here]<br />
* J. Vaughan (torpor) -- http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/torpor Contact me here]<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Styria ===<br />
==== Graz ====<br />
Group 1: Status: 10/10<br />
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* F Hackenberger [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Deadman66 Contact me here]<br />
* J Florineth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Flojoh Contact me here]<br />
* G Michelitsch [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/graf_ithaka Contact me here]<br />
* R Stoegbuchner [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/stoero Contact me here]<br />
* M Lipp [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Neldoreth Contact me here]<br />
* M Maier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/species Contact me here]<br />
* M Konrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/konni Contact me here]<br />
* K Krammer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krake Contact me here]<br />
* M Prokop [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mika Contact me here]<br />
* C Lauermann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cms Contact me here]<br />
<br />
Group 2: Status: 3/10<br />
* S Simmer [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/StefanS Contact me here]<br />
* K Holler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kho Contact me here]<br />
* St Stampler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/stst Contact me here]<br />
<br />
== Belgium ==<br />
=== Brussels ===<br />
Status 5/10<br />
* npettiaux [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Npettiaux Contact me here]<br />
* jwarnier [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jwarnier Contact me here]<br />
* mvanderdonck [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nicodache Contact me here]<br />
* lpirotte [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lpirotte Contact me here]<br />
* Ciaran [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ciaran Contact me here]<br />
<br />
=== Flanders ===<br />
==== Aalst/Aarschot/Gent/Brugge ====<br />
Status 7/10<br />
* XVens, mailto: xavier DOT vens AT gmail DOT com<br />
* Arno85, mailto: aaron DOT helin AT gmail DOT com, Kortrijk<br />
<br />
* Yvo Brasseur, mailto: yvo_brasseur AT archon DOT be Living in Aarschot, working in Brussels.<br />
* Emmanuel Mathot, mailto: aiieeee DOT gmail DOT com, Brussels<br />
* Kamil Kubacki, mailto: kamil DOT kubacki AT gmail DOT com [or kamil.kubacki@gmail.com]<br />
* 2x Hans Vanpée, mailto: hans AT vanpee DOT be<br />
<br />
ps: Dolfje think it will be cheaper to buy it from pulster.de. Can anyone confirm?<br />
<br />
Confirmation: From Pulster.eu:<br />
<br />
Our sales price is 299 EUR. The idea of "open" is ours. So check our price calculation: if you order the Freerunner from Taiwan, it's 399 USD + 100 USD shipping + c. 90 USD "import taxes" inside Europe. Total 589 USD = c.380 EUR.<br />
<br />
So it will be cheaper and we Europeans have 2 years of warranty when buying from Pulster, instead of a 14 days(?) for imported goods.<br />
You can read all advantages on pulster.eu<br />
<br />
==== Antwerp ====<br />
Status 11/10<br />
<br />
* michielv [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Michielv Contact me here]<br />
* Peter N [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubsy Contact me here]<br />
* Ivo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ivo Contact me here]<br />
* Peter Leemans, mailto: peter AT x-tend DOT be<br />
* Richard B [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/richardb Contact me here]<br />
* Jeroen Van Goey [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BioGeek Contact me here]<br />
* Jeroen D [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jeroendoggen Contact me here]<br />
* Diego Garcia, mailto: didac.garcia AT gmail DOT com<br />
* Sam Geeraerts (Laakdal) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Samgee Contact me here]<br />
* Stefaan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Stefaan Contact me here]<br />
* Bert_2 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bert_2 Contact me here] If they aren't cheaper via Pulster.<br />
<br />
<br />
Status 1/10<br />
* Jove [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jove Contact me here] I would like a developer board too.<br />
<br />
Perhaps if we have a few more users, we can redistribute the groups geographically?<br />
<br />
=== Wallonia ===<br />
==== Walloon Brabant ====<br />
Status: 1/10<br />
* Istvan, mailto: buki DOT istvan AT gmail DOT com<br />
<br />
== Bulgaria ==<br />
=== Sofia ===<br />
==== Sofia ====<br />
Status : 7/10<br />
<br />
* Dimitar Staykov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OpenMitko Contact]<br />
* Vernim, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vernim Contact]<br />
* Geo, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/geomer Contact]<br />
* Iceman, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ice Contact], 30 May 2008<br />
* jdivanov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jdivanov Contact], 16 June 2008<br />
* luchoh, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/luchoh Contact], 26 June 2008<br />
* nninov, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nninov Contact], 26 June 2008<br />
<br />
== Canada ==<br />
<br />
=== British Columbia ===<br />
Status : 12/10<br />
<br />
* Justin (Vancouver): mailto: stryderjzw AT gmail<br />
* Dave (Vancouver) Vancouver Linux users group (unconfirmed but about 7 so far): mailto: doc AT skynet REMOVE dot REMOVE ie<br />
* Steven (Victoria) - If someone in the group will remail the package for me. mailto: skurylo --> gmail dot com<br />
* Morley (Victoria) - If someone in the group will mail to the island. mailto:morleyw@gmail.com<br />
* Robert (Vancouver) - robtaylor <AT> tinsputnik <DOT> com (1 unit)<br />
* Jeff (Vancouver) - jef dot jef gmail com<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Group 2'''<br />
<br />
Status: 3/10<br />
<br />
* Ben Cadieux (Abbotsford & Vancouver) - ben [DOT] cadieux <AT> gmail [DOT] com<br />
* Kelvie Wong (Vancouver, in Richmond) - kelvie (over at) ieee (period) org (one)<br />
* Doug (Vancouver) - illusion65 at gmail (1 + debug)<br />
<br />
=== Alberta ===<br />
Status : 9/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Wuth|Wuth]] : [mailto:wuth@acm.org]<br />
* [[User:Slm3095om|stacy]] (2 units) : slm3095om AT millions dOt ca<br />
* [[User:Abnormal|Morgan]] : [mailto:lightningperf@hotmail.com]<br />
* [[User:picosrfr|Will]] : [mailto:will.siddall@gmail.com]<br />
* [[User:Dewey|Dewey]] (Calgary) : [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dewey Contact me here]<br />
* [[User:Shadowwolf|Vince]] (Red Deer) : 1 Unit + 1 Debug board [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Shadowwolf Get a hold of me here]<br />
* [[User:Deanb2|Dean]] (Calgary) : [mailto:deanb@gbtn.net]<br />
* [[User:jimb|jim b]] (Edmonton) : [mailto:callonjim@gmail.com][http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jimb mokomail]<br />
<br />
=== Ontario/Quebec ===<br />
==== GTA (Toronto) ====<br />
Status : 10/10<br />
<br />
* Gerald A [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Historybuff Contact me here]<br />
* MattC, mailto: quirkz AT gmail<br />
* Sergey K, openmoko AT deeptown dOt org<br />
* Daniel Lister, gmail(dan.lister)<br />
* Ronnie Wong: '''3 units''' - r25wong AT ryerson dOT ca<br />
* Paul V [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Roju Contact me here]<br />
* Matt Manjos, matt (AT) manjos * com<br />
* Steven O'Reilly, soreilly AT walled DOT net<br />
<br />
Group 2 Status (Hamilton): 6/10<br />
<br />
* Gabriel D - ace AT staticwave DOT ca<br />
* Richard D - rtdegelder --> gmail.com<br />
* Steve S - ssinger_pg AT sympatico dot ca<br />
* Wolfram Kahl - kahl McMaster CA<br />
* Paul Wouters - paul@xelerance.com '''1 units'''<br />
* John Hurley - nybble at eml dot cc<br />
<br />
Group 3 Status (Montréal): 2/10<br />
* Patrick Hétu - patrick AT koumbit DOT org<br />
* Eric Lebel - lebeleri AT aei DOT ca<br />
<br />
== Chile ==<br />
=== Santiago ===<br />
Status : 4/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Mankeke]] Ricardo Manríquez C., mailto: ricardo.manriquez "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com<br />
* [[User:XKnightmareX]] Gonzalo Pesenti., mailto: mare.knight1 "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com<br />
* [[User:Freyes]] Felipe Reyes., mailto: felipereyes "remove this and add AT" gmail "dot" com<br />
* [[User:crsepulv]] Cristian Sepúlveda, mailto: sepulveda.cristian@gmail.com<br />
<br />
== China ==<br />
=== BeiJing ===<br />
Status:10/10<br />
*Luther <br/> mailto:lutherluo@qq.com <br/> 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br />
*Gnosy <br/> mailto:gnosyhh@gmail.com <br/> 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br />
*Bin Zong <br /> mailto:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com <br/> 1 Freerunner <br/> MSN:hunter_00zb@hotmail.com<br />
*Lee zaixin<br /> mailto:shqlzx@126.com <br/> 1 Freerunner <br/><br />
*Zhuwei<br /> mailto:grissom_zhu@139.com <br/> MSN:wyh0310@hotmail.com <br/> 1 Freerunner <br/><br />
*zhaojun<br/> mailto:zhaojun1631@163.com <br/> 1 freerunner and 1 debug board<br />
*Benoit Begue<br/> mailto:snk4ever@gmail.com <br/> 1 freerunner<br />
*Tristan<br/> mailto:0x5478(at)gmail.com <br/> MSN:liu_bei_bei(at)hotmail.com <br/> 1 freerunner and 1 debug board.<br />
*Lalo<br/> mailto:lalo.martins@gmail.com<br/> 1 freerunner<br />
*Lu Kuo<br />Email and MSN: koreylu#hotmail.com (substitute @ for # please)<br />1 freerunner and 1 debug board<br />
<br />
Status:1/10<br />
*Hong Zhiyi <br/> mailto: zhiyi.hong@gmail.com <br/> 1 freerunner<br />
<br />
=== ShangHai ===<br />
Status:3/10<br />
<br/> <br />
* Pajda, info on my [[User:Pajda|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Pajda|contact me here]]. 1 x freerunner<br />
* ChandleWEi mailto:chandle.wei@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board<br />
* YxunLan mailto:dennis.yxun@gmail.com 1 x freerunner and 1 debug board<br />
<br />
=== Guangzhou ===<br />
Status:1/10<br />
*Geoffrey <br/> mailto:dghfalcon@gmail.com <br/> 1 freerunner and 1 debug borad.<br />
<br />
== Colombia ==<br />
=== Bogotá ===<br />
Status: 3/10<br />
* Javier Rojas. Phone and debug board. <br /> mailto:jerojasro@gmail.com<br /><br />
* Gustavo Andrés Angulo. Phone and debug board. <br /> mailto:woakas@gmail.com<br /><br />
* Exell E. Franklin J. Phone and debug board. <br /> mailto:arawaco@ieee.org<br /><br />
<br />
== Denmark ==<br />
If we do not reach a total large enough, Denmark **is** a very small place - surely we could figure out a way of getting them to find their way 'round the country :)<br />
<br />
=== Jutland ===<br />
==== Aalborg ====<br />
Status: 7/10<br />
<br />
Should anyone need it, transportation from Aalborg to Thisted for phones can be arranged, if you don't want to pick it up in Aalborg yourself :) ~leinir<br />
<br />
As it looks right now, it seems that it would be cheaper and easier for us to buy through Pulster in Germany - see the following email: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017778.html ~leinir<br />
<br />
* Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen <br /> mailto:admin@leinir.dk <br /> [[User:Leinir]]<br />
* Fabian Olesen <br /> mailto:firewalkerx@gmail.com<br />
* Helge Willum Larsen <br /> mailto:helge.at.helges.dk<br />
* Kristian Lindemann Larsen (2 stk)<br /> mailto:walker@pandia.dk<br />
* Brian Olsen <br /> mailto:downloader@pandia.dk<br />
* Henrik Odder Jensen <br /> mailto:herakles@pandia.dk<br />
<br />
==== Aarhus ====<br />
Status: 3/10<br />
<br />
* Kent S. Knudsen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Forestmountain contact me here] - [[User:Forestmountain]] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)<br />
* Lars Jensen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/el_senator contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)<br />
* Martin Pedersen - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cheeses contact me here] (1 phone; will join any danish group if necessary)<br />
<br />
==== Skjern ====<br />
Status: 1/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Carlo]]<br />
<br />
==== Sønderborg ====<br />
Status: 1/10<br />
<br />
* Theis Hjorth [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Theis.hjorth contact me here] (1 phone + 1 devkit) <br /><br />
<br />
=== Fyn ===<br />
Status: 5/10<br />
(Unnless others join Esben and Peter will join the Copenhagen order and Peter will pick up the phones for Fyn in Copenhagen)<br />
<br />
* [[User:EsbenDamgaard]] (need 3 (Looney & Gert))<br />
* [[User:apm]] (need 1 with invoice - can pick up in Copenhagen)<br />
* [[User:LarsOPoulsen | Lars Poulsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LarsOPoulsen (contact)] (1 phone)<br />
<br />
=== Sjælland ===<br />
==== Copenhagen ====<br />
Status: 34/10 (39 including the 5 for Fyn - see above)<br />
<br />
* [[User:jrcarlsen | Johnny Rose Carlsen]] (+45) 28 14 60 04 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jrcarlsen (contact)] 1 phone<br />
* [[User:Fursund]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fursund (contact)] 1 phone<br />
* [[User:tabac | Thomas Ammitzbøll-Bach ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tabac (contact)] 1 phone<br />
* [[User:chel | Christian E. Lysel ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chel (contact)] 1 phone<br />
* [[User:UlrikRasmussen | Ulrik Rasmussen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/UlrikRasmussen (contact)] (1)<br />
* [[User:KlaymenDK | Jan Gundtofte-Bruun]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KlaymenDK (contact)]<br />
* [[User:OleTange | Ole Tange]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OleTange (contact)] (I need 14 with invoice)<br />
* [[User:Pascal | Pascal d'Hermilly]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pascal (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice)<br />
* [[User:maha | Martin Hansen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/maha (contact)] (3 with invoice)<br />
* [[User:SvenneK | Svenne Krap ]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/SvenneK (contact)] (1+devkit with invoice)<br />
* [[User:bss | Bo Stendal Sørensen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bss (contact)] (1)<br />
* [[User:Glenn | Glenn Møller-Holst]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Glenn (contact)] (2 freerunners + debug board, +invoice)<br />
* [[User:knmeister | Kristian Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/knmeister (contact)] (I need 1 with invoice)<br />
* [[User:hammerfar | Henrik Hammer Berthelsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hammerfar (contact)] (2 with invoice)<br />
* [[User:Bubbi | Steen Nielsen]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bubbi (contact)] (2 with invoice)<br />
<br />
== Estonia ==<br />
=== Tallinn ===<br />
Let's see if we can get ten people together for this. I'm willing to organise the local distribution if we can. Spread the word and try to get more locals interested in it. [[User:Yogiz|Yogiz]] 08:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Status 2/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Yogiz | Yogiz]] ([mailto:yogizz@gmail.com contact]) 1 phone<br />
* [[User:Zooter | Zooter]] ([mailto:zooter@hot.ee contact]) 1 phone<br />
<br />
== Finland ==<br />
=== Uusimaa ===<br />
Note to gta02v6 waiting people:"The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT<br />
LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption". So, no problem? Also a quote from [[Neo FreeRunner GTA02 Hardware#GTA02v6]]: "Capacitor and resistor change A6 also on mass production A5".<br />
<br />
==== Helsinki I (Full)====<br />
Status : 10/10<br />
<br />
* Mikko Rauhala x2 [mailto:mjr@iki.fi mjr@iki.fi]<br />
* Aleksi Hankalahti <br /> [mailto:aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi aleksi.hankalahti@iki.fi]<br />
* Seppo Hätönen <br /> [mailto:karrde@iki.fi karrde@iki.fi]<br />
* Arttu Sund <br /> thearttu AT gmail DOT com<br />
* Ville-Pekka Vainio <br /> vpivaini AT cs.helsinki.fi<br />
* Heikki Hallamaa <br /> [mailto:heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi heikki.hallamaa@iki.fi]<br />
* Tomi Jylhä-Ollila <br /> tomi.jylha-ollila@helsinki.fi<br />
* Richard Braakman<br />
* Timo Jyrinki <br /> [mailto:timo.jyrinki@iki.fi timo.jyrinki@iki.fi]<br />
<br />
==== Helsinki II, Turku & Vaasa====<br />
<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Rhk DISCUSS HERE]<br />
<br />
Tilauksen saa ottaa hoitaakseen kuka tahansa tilaajista, rhk ei ole ainakaan vielä sitoutunut hoitamaan!<br />
<br />
Jos tätä & lapin tilausta ei saada täyteen voinee Lapin ryhmästä siirtyä osa tähän tilaukseen?<br />
<br />
Status : 7/10<br />
<br />
Helsinki:<br />
<br />
* Risto H. Kurppa <br /> risto AT kurppa DOT fi<br />
* Aapo Rantalainen <br /> aapo DOT rantalainen AT gmail DOT com<br />
* Matti Laakso <br /> matti DOT laakso AT kotiposti DOT net<br />
* Ilari Oras <br /> ilari DOT oras AT welho DOT com<br />
* Jussi Kekkonen <br /> tmt AT ubuntu DOT com<br />
<br />
Turku:<br />
<br />
* Jaakko Lehtinen, jaakko dot lehtinen at gmail dot com<br />
<br />
Vaasa:<br />
<br />
* Mikko Niemikorpi, mikefulli ÄT gmail PISTE com<br />
<br />
=== Lappi ===<br />
==== Kemi ====<br />
Status : 3/10<br />
<br />
'''[[User:Cg|Discuss the order here]]'''<br />
<br />
Kemi:<br />
* Henri Valta <br />henri PISTE valta ÄT kemi PISTE fi<br />
* Tommi Juvonen <br />tassi ÄT mediapumppu PISTE info<br />
* Jaakko Pörhö <br />ensteinfrank ÄT hotmail PISTE com<br />
<br />
== France ==<br />
=== Bretagne ===<br />
==== Brest ====<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
<br />
* StevenLeRoux [mailto:steven@pourri.fr steven@pourri.fr] Jabber_Id:Steven@jabber.fr<br />
* Acheteur potentiel #2<br />
<br />
==== Rennes ====<br />
Status : 3/10<br />
<br />
* Cédric DUFOUIL (openmoko at tsleg point com)<br />
* Yves MAHE (ymahe at zindep dot com)<br />
* Guillaume BERTHELOM (yogui29 at gmail dot com)<br />
<br />
=== Pays de la Loire ===<br />
==== La Roche sur Yon ====<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vtouchar Vincent Touchard]<br />
<br />
==== Nantes ====<br />
Status : 2/10<br />
* [[User:Yoann|Yoann ARNAUD]]. OK for a ship in Rennes if needed. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Yoann Contact me here]<br />
* [[User:sim51|Benoît SIMARD]]. Idem [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sim51 Contact me here]<br />
<br />
=== Nord ===<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Ile de france ===<br />
==== Paris ====<br />
Status : 23/30<br />
<br />
* StevenLeRoux<br />
* <s>[[User:Phyce|Phyce]]</s> (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')<br />
* Yann SLADEK ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Maveryck Contact me here])<br />
* [[User:Wilk|Wilk]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wilk Contact me here]<br />
* Jonathan Magano ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JonathanMM Contact me here])<br />
* Benjamin Renard (bn8[AT]zionetrix.net)<br />
* [[User:OlivierBerger|OlivierBerger]]<br />
* [[User:BartGS|BartGS]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BartGS Contact me here]<br />
* [[User:rcoscali|Rémi Cohen-Scali]]<br />
* <s>[[User:Valos|Valéry Febvre]]</s> (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')<br />
* <s>[[User:Manou|Emmanuel Raviart]]</s> (''commandé sur http://pulster.eu'')<br />
* Le Troll Farceur ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/LeTrollFarceur Contact me here])<br />
* [[User:mshook|Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer]]<br />
* [[User:LoicMinier|Loïc Minier]]<br />
* [[User:chansen|Cyril Hansen]]<br />
* [[User:hbernard|hugues]]<br />
* Titilambert ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/titilambert Contact me here])<br />
* [[User:Raphux|Raphux]]([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Raphux Contact me here])<br />
* [[User:tuXXX|Damien Thébault]] (Contact me [[User:tuXXX|here]] or [[Special:Emailuser/tuXXX|here]])<br />
* [[User:kkum|Kumar]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/kkum|here]])<br />
* Gand' ([http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gand' Contact me here])<br />
* [[User:Sporniket|David SPORN]]<br />
* [[User:Bedo|Bedo]]<br />
* [[User:Ainulindale|Julien Cassignol]] (contact me [[Special:Emailuser/Ainulindale|here]])<br />
* [[User:Theocrite|Theocrite]] <br />
* [[User:Gui82|Gui82]] <br />
You may also see :<br />
http://bearstech.com/shop<br />
<br />
=== Lorraine ===<br />
==== Nancy ====<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:mosan|Nicolas Salles]]<br />
<br />
=== Rhône-Alpes ===<br />
==== Lyon ====<br />
Status : 2/10<br />
<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/patou Vincent MEURISSE]<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pini Gilles FILIPPINI]<br />
<br />
==== Grenoble ====<br />
Status : 4/10<br />
<br />
* <s>[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbollard Philippe]</s> (''commandé sur http://bearstech.com/shop '')<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aurelien Aurelien]<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Hey_popey Damien]<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/swap38 Johann]<br />
<br />
=== Alpes de Haute Provence ===<br />
==== Manosque ====<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cfdev Cyril]<br />
<br />
=== Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur ===<br />
==== Sophia Antipolis ====<br />
Status : 4/10<br />
<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nico.inc Nicolas HUOT]<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xavier_OM Xavier CREMASCHI]<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasile Vasile Jureschi]<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Herve5 Hervé Sainct]<br />
<br />
=== Midi-Pyrénées ===<br />
==== Toulouse ====<br />
<br />
Status: 2/10<br />
<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Ortalo|Ortalo]]<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Micktaiwan Mickael Faivre-Maçon]<br />
<br />
== Germany ==<br />
=== Baden-Württemberg ===<br />
==== Karlsruhe ====<br />
<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Spacemarine|Spacemarine]] 2 Freerunner. -- I'm managing the communication between the groupbuyers, so please contact me if you are interested and haven't received an email from me yet. We will meet at the Kalug Meeting http://www.karlsruhe.linux.de/ on 26. 5. 2008 to discuss things further.<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Dr.Nop|Dr.Nop]] (inzw. Ludwigsburg, falls es sich anbietet könnte ich auch zur Leonberger Gruppe wechseln)<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/JensB|JensB]]<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Tedo|Tedo]]<br />
<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Gromgull|Gromgull]] (in Kaiserslautern, but Karlsruhe is close enough, and I doubt that I'll find 10 people here.<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Ebi|Ebi]]<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/RIdd3r|Fabian]]<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Gollum|Gollum]] in Mannheim, ditto :) Maybe local postal service is an option?<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Archimedes|Sebastian]] (in Kaiserslautern on workdays and Daun/Eifel during the weekend)<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Roduit|Roduit]] In Heidelberg. Karlsruhe is close enough.<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Cfo|cfo]] Karlsruhe<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Adonres|Adonres]] Karlsruhe - Hope I'm not too late.<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Nomeata|Nomeata]] is interested<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/BlackFog|BlackFog]] joins in<br />
<br />
==== Leonberg ====<br />
Status 10/10<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/ZaPPaS|ZaPPaS]] about 8 Freerunners.<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Cc|Cc]]<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Agon|Agon]] Maybe 1 Freerunner.<br />
<br />
==== Tübingen ====<br />
Status 7/10<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/MiTo|MiTo]]<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/NoBody|NoBody]] close to tuebingen and stuttgart (between both)<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/eliasp|eliasp]] (3 Freerunner (me, qknight + sbock) - Tübingen downtown<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/nobs|nobs]] thinking about buying one; if I am #10, count me in; if there is someone else #11 you can drop me<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/marjay|marjay]] take also one (Dettingen/Erms)<br />
<br />
==== Ulm ====<br />
Status: 2/10<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/mzanetti|mzanetti]] <br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Lord_Evil|Lord_Evil]] ich nehm auch eins. Evtl. kann ich mich auch an Augsburg anhängen.<br />
<br />
=== Bayern ===<br />
<br />
==== Augsburg ====<br />
<br />
Status 5/10<br />
I just want to see if there are enough people to fill up to ten. So add your name here if you are interested.<br />
<br />
*[[Special:Emailuser/Whoever|whoever]] - Ich nehm eins, wenn die Münchner keines übrig haben.<br />
*[[Special:Emailuser/paddy2706|paddy2706]] - Ein OpenMoko bitte :)<br />
----<br />
*[[Special:Emailuser/Nightmare|Nightmare]] - Ich will es doch lieber beim Händler kaufen mit voller Garantie (pulster.de bietet es für 299 Euro an)<br />
<br />
Wann werden die dann bestellt/gezahlt? Dauert bei mir no kurz bis ichs Geld für zusammen hab aber dann nehm ich eins.<br />
MfG [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MookiE MookiE]<br />
<br />
Hallo, ich würde mich für einen Freerunner interessieren. Wie sieht es mit Zoll aus? Kommt der noch dazu?<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Murks Murks]<br />
<br />
$3690 (10 Freerunner) <br />
+ $ 160 (Versand lt. Australiern)<br />
=======<br />
$3850<br />
<br />
$3850<br />
+ $ 732 (19% Einfuhrumsatzsteuer)<br />
+ $ 0 (kein Zoll für Handys)<br />
=======<br />
$4582<br />
<br />
$458 / 1,5$/€ = 305 € pro Telefon (als Richtwert)<br />
<br />
==== München ====<br />
<br />
Wir suchen noch einen Organisator für die Bestellung! Weiß jemand, was man so alles beachten muss?<br />
<br />
'''Diskussion auf der [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup Seite]]!'''<br />
<br />
Hilf mit, eine [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Munich|Münchner UserGroup]] aufzubauen!<br />
<br />
Status 14/20<br />
<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Imitation|Imitation]] 30 April 2008<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/meyerm|meyerm]] 16:25 CEST, 01. Mai 2008<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Koebi|koebi]] 05. Mai 2008<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/wof|wof]] (2) 07. Mai 2008<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/floe|floe]] 10. Mai 2008<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/mathew muc|mathew muc]] 12. Mai 2008<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/einalex|einalex]] 13. Mai 2008<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/smurfy|smurfy]] 18. Mai 2008<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Whoever|whoever]] 02. Juni 2008 (München oder Augsburg, ich mach bei der Gruppe mit, die mir als erste ein Freerunner "garantiert")<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Beni|Beni]] 05. Juni 2008<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Nosyjoe|Nosyjoe]] 08. Juni 2008<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/peter_b|peter_b]] needs 2 Freerunner 16. Juni 2008<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/calestyo|Cálestyo]] 2008-06-23<br />
----<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Eriks|Eriks]] Unfortunately I have to sign me off. So somebody else has to arrange it. I'm really sorry about that. :-(<br />
<br />
=== Berlin===<br />
==== Berlin ====<br />
<br />
Help to form a [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Berlin|Berlin User Group]]!<br />
<br />
Status 16/20<br />
* Stephan [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Fischel Contact me here]<br />
* Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Thebohemian Contact me here]<br />
* Nico [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Nico Contact me here]<br />
* Bastian [[User:Fries43]]<br />
* Sven-Ola [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Sven-ola Contact]<br />
* Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:arnepp Contact me here]<br />
* MM [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:MM Contact]<br />
* Keks [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Keksdosenmann Contact]<br />
* Matthias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:mk Contact]<br />
* Norbert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Noha Contact]<br />
* Joscha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Joka Contact]<br />
* Janne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Janne Contact]<br />
* Robert [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Robx Contact]<br />
* Conrad [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Caribu Contact me here]<br />
* govindas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:govindas Contact me here]<br />
* philippt [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:philippt Contact me here if you dare ;-)]<br />
<br />
=== Bremen ===<br />
==== Bremen ====<br />
Status 3/10<br />
* Gero Mudersbach [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gero Contact me here]<br />
* Hartje Bruns [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrBurns Contact me here]<br />
* Timo Scheffler [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Faldrian Contact me here]<br />
<br />
==== Bremerhaven ====<br />
<br />
=== Hamburg ===<br />
==== Hamburg ====<br />
Status 9-10<br />
<br />
* Jan 4-5[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jan07 Contact me here]<br />
* Varacanero [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/varacanero Contact me here]<br />
* Ole 3-5 pcs [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Olemoko Contact me here]<br />
* Arne [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/GuraX Contact me here]<br />
* Arne.anka 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Arne.anka Contact me here]<br />
* Wasili Goutas 1pc + debug adapter [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Laki Contact me here]<br />
* mimbeck 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mimbeck Contact me here]<br />
* savi 1pc [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savi Contact me here]<br />
<br />
=== Hessen ===<br />
==== Frankfurt ====<br />
Status 1-10<br />
<br />
* Blacky [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Blacky Contact me here]<br />
<br />
=== Niedersachsen===<br />
==== Hannover====<br />
Status 2/10<br />
<br />
* Dattel83 [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dattel83 Contact me here]<br />
* [[User:Ditto|Ditto]] contact me via [[Special:Emailuser/Ditto|e-mail form]] (If we don't get enough orders maybe we should join with [[GroupSales#Bielefeld|Bielefeld]] or another town close by)<br />
<br />
=== NRW ===<br />
==== Aachen ====<br />
Status 4/10<br />
* Henrik, infos on my [[User:Henrikz|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Henrikz|contact me here]]<br />
* David, infos on my [[User:TechnoFan|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/TechnoFan|contact me here]]<br />
* Stephan, infos on my [[User:chaq|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/chaq|contact me here]]<br />
* Michael, infos on my [[User:knut|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/knut|contact me here]]<br />
<br />
==== Bielefeld ====<br />
Status 4/10<br />
<br />
* David, infos on my [[User:Raven|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Raven|contact me here]]<br />
* Sebastian, infos on my [[User:Seppi|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Seppi|contact me here]]<br />
* Dackel, infos on my [[User:Killerdackel|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Killerdackel|contact me here]]<br />
* Conny<br />
* Arndt, infos on my [[User:Arndot|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/Arndot|contact me here]]<br />
<br />
==== Bocholt ====<br />
===== (Fachhochschule in Bocholt) =====<br />
* 1 x adslex<br />
* 1 x dg [[Special:Emailuser/dg|contact me here]]<br />
<br />
==== Düsseldorf ====<br />
* mac2k, infos on my [[User:mac2k|user page]], or you can [[Special:Emailuser/mac2k|contact me here]]<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Sachsen-Anhalt ===<br />
==== Stendal (evtl. Magdeburg) ====<br />
Status 1/10<br />
<br />
* Fabian Off [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Fabian2de Contact me here]<br />
<br />
<br />
=== Thueringen ===<br />
==== Weimar ====<br />
Status 1/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Fries43]]<br />
<br />
==== Ilmenau ====<br />
Status 1/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:KimKiesel]]<br />
<br />
=== Sachsen ===<br />
Eventuell sollten wir eine gemeinsame Bestellung für ganz Sachsen machen, damit wir auf ausreichend Leute kommen.<br />
<br />
==== Chemnitz ====<br />
Status 2/10<br />
<br />
* Tobias [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tobydox Contact me here]<br />
* Michael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/her Contact me here]<br />
==== Dresden ====<br />
Status 1/10<br />
<br />
* Martin [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nodge Contact me here]<br />
<br />
==== Leipzig ====<br />
Status 4/10<br />
<br />
* Natanael [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/white_gecko Contact me here] (+2)<br />
* Micha [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Adian Contact me here]<br />
<br />
== Hungary == <br />
Good to know:<br />
*discussion here: http://hup.hu/node/54588<br />
*mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-groupsales-hungary<br />
*group ordering coordinator: Dániel Vásárhelyi (see below) - please contact me on any questions<br />
<br />
ordering rules:<br />
* anyone can add and remove him/herself on the list - new names MUST be _appended_ to the list<br />
* please use real name and working e-mail address<br />
* although this list is informative, please extend it _only_ if you are really serious about ordering it<br />
* coordinator contacts everyone interested prior to actual buying<br />
<br />
=== Budapest ===<br />
<br />
# Ferenc 'Lion' Veres [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kempelen Contact] lion kukac netngine pont hu<br />
# Laszlo 'rka' Szabo [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rka Contact]<br />
# tg [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tg?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Contact]<br />
# LiRul - lirul [KUKAC] hixsplit [PONT] hu<br />
# Nyosigomboc - nyos [KUKAC] nyos [PONT] homelinux [PONT] net<br />
# Ludvig Adam - hunludvig [KUKAC] gmail [PONT] com<br />
# [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/asdmin?wpSubject=OpenMoko%20GroupSales Dániel 'asd' Vásárhelyi]<br />
# btamas, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/btamas Contact]<br />
# Kovács 'ka87' András, andras [kukac] csevego [pont] net<br />
# pcm, pcm [kukac] freemail [pont] hu<br />
# Geza Piros, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gpiros Contact]<br />
# Áron Preisinger, appa00 [kukac] gmail [pont] com [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/appa Contact]<br />
# pierre286, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pierre286 Contact]<br />
# Hélei Zoltán, heleiz [kukac] gmail<br />
# Radics Áron, raron @ vipmail . hu<br />
# Laszlo Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]<br />
# tr3w [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tr3w Contact]<br />
# Ferenc Szomor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lci Contact]<br />
# Bolyóczki Zsombor, mogorva kukac tuxworx pont hu<br />
# Sütő Zoltán, suto dot zoltan at t dash online dot hu<br />
# Zsolt Pittmann, pittmann dot zsolt at gmail dot com<br />
# KREKACS Laszlo, laszlo {pont} krekacs {pont} list {kukacka} gmail {pont} com<br />
# Móker Tamás - rwind [KUKAC] apacheweb [PONT] hu<br />
# Krisztián Kovács, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Krisztian Contact]<br />
# Tamas Michalik, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dotmind Contact]<br />
# Peter Roosz, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rope Contact]<br />
# Eduard Iacoboaia, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Polaru Contact]<br />
# László Vadász, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Lvadasz Contact]<br />
# Attila Lendvai, [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/attila.lendvai Contact]<br />
# Thomas Otterbein [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tommi Contact]<br />
<br />
=== Kecskemét ===<br />
Dániel Vásárhelyi handles transportation to Kecskemét, therefore it is not necessary to collect 10 all pieces here.<br />
<br />
== India ==<br />
=== Bangalore ===<br />
Status 1/10<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sh4r4d sharad]<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gadiyar Anand Gadiyar]<br />
<br />
=== Delhi/NCR ===<br />
Status 2/10<br />
* Sameer Mohamed Thahir [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sameerthahir Contact]<br />
* Pratul Kalia (lut4rp) ''pratulkalia [at] gmail [dot] com''<br />
<br />
== Italy == <br />
For more informations and to organize groups, visit the<br />
*[http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''''Italian Freerunner Group Sales Google Group'''''] (ML/Web/Feeds) ([mailto:freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com freerunner-italian-group-sales@googlegroups.com]).<br />
<br />
'''BUT please keep adding your name and email to the list below'''<br />
<br />
If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the "most requested city", and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the "double-shipping". ([http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/10937/focus=10981 Read here for reference]).<br />
<br />
=== Toscana ===<br />
==== Firenze (e dintorni) ====<br />
Status 12/10<br />
<br />
'''''[[GroupSales/Firenze|Wiki organizzativo]]'''''<br />
<br />
* [[User:Treviño|Marco Trevisan (Treviño)]] - [http://blog.3v1n0.net/contatti-trevino/ Contacts here]<br />
* [[User:Niccolo|Niccolo Rigacci]] - ''niccolo [AT] rigacci.org''<br />
* [[User:pcav|Paolo Cavallini]] - ''cavallini [AT] faunalia.it''<br />
* [[User:BiggMatt|Mattia Gentile]] - ''biggmatt@hotmail.it''<br />
* Elisa ''[mailto:lab@kkk.it lab@kkk.it]'' (Empoli)<br />
* [[User:Sugacapra|Sugacapra]] - ''alessio.chemeri [AT] gmail.com''<br />
* [[User:tom_morello|Carlo Ascani (Morello)]] - ''carlo.ratm [AT] gmail.com''<br />
* [[User:marrano|Stefano Burchietti (Marrano)]] - ''stefano [AT] nontelodiromai.it''<br />
* [[User:Geli86|Matteo Gelimeri X 2 (Imola - Bologna)]] - ''gelimatteo [AT] gmail.com''<br />
* [[User:dcoppa|David Coppa (Borgo a Buggiano, Pistoia)]] - ''dcoppa@gmail.com''<br />
* [[User:Panthack|Dario Panthack Pantani (Pontedera - Pisa)]] - ''panthack2 [AT] tiscali.it''<br />
<br />
=== Lombardia ===<br />
<br />
==== Milano e dintorni ====<br />
Status 23/30<br />
<br />
[[GroupSales_Milano_e_dintorni|Organizzazione preliminare]] DEPRECATA lì 11 Maggio 2008.<br />
<br />
Da ora in poi usiamo il [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''].<br />
<br />
Ad ogni modo, per stabilire le precedenze nella prenotazione dei pacchi da 10 pezzi<br><br />
'''continuate ad aggiugerVi nella lista qui sotto'''<br />
<br />
*'''Gruppo 1'''<br />
*# Marcello Gorla [mailto:marcello.gorla@gmail.com Contacts here] (Milano città)<br />
*# Maxxer [mailto:maxxer@yetopen.it maxxer@yetopen.it] (Lecco)<br />
*# Pietro Montorfano [mailto:monto84@gmail.com monto84@gmail.com] (from como)<br />
*# Gianluigi Belli - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pulciux Contacts here] (Milano)<br />
*# Michele Castellano - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mubumba Contacts here] (Milano)<br />
*# Maurizio Lipreri - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Maldido Contacts here]( Como )<br />
*# Guido Conaldi - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/skepz Contacts here] (Varese)<br />
*# [[User:Furester|Igor Scabini (furester)]] - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Furester Contacts here] (Milano)<br />
*# Dario Panico [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Dareus Contacts here] (Busto Arsizio, VA)<br />
*# Marco Zanzotera (Milano città) <br />
<br />
*'''Gruppo 2'''<br />
*# Francesco Ricci (Milano, Dipartimento di Scienze dell'Informazione, via Comelico 39/41) - possibile punto di ricezione/distribuzione - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Alfa21 Contacts here]<br />
*# Federico Belvisi - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Armalite Contacts here] (Legnano, MI/Varese)<br />
*# Francesco Leserri - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Francy Contacts here] (Vimercate, MI)<br />
*# [[User:Pietrao| Pietro Isotti]] - [mailto:isottipietro@gmail.com isottipietro@gmail.com]<br />
*# Baz - [mailto:buzzi.paolo@gmail.com buzzi.paolo@gmail.com]<br />
*# Mario Signorino ('''2 unità''') ([[User:Dodiesis|Dodiesis]])- [mailto:mario@sgrunt.net mario@sgrunt.net] (Milano - possibile punto di ricezione alternativo )<br />
*# [[user:Stemby|Carlo Stemberger]] (Stemby) - '''carlo'''<small>dot</small>'''stemberger'''<small>at</small>'''gmail'''<small>dot</small>'''com''' (Missaglia, LC)<br />
*# Marco Crobu - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tron.tron Contacts here] (Zogno, BG)<br />
*# Maurizio [[User:Trizio!|"Trizio!"]] Ciceri (Novara)<br />
<br />
*Gruppo 3 - incompleto<br />
*# Gianluca [mailto:cimi.luca@gmail.com Contacts here] (Lugano-CH)<br />
*# Jacopo [mailto:jacopo.anselmi@gmail.com] (Milano Citta')<br />
*# david josè giovannini (green.riot AT gmail DOT com) [Arona - Lake Major]<br />
<br />
=== Piemonte ===<br />
==== Torino (and province) ====<br />
Status 10/10<br />
<br />
Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Torino)<br />
<br />
Precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale<br><br />
*'''Gruppo 1''' (prime persone a fare l'ordine):<br><br />
1 x Claudio Carnino (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)<br><br />
1 x Alessandro Degano (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)<br><br />
1 x Enrico Pigozzi (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)<br><br />
1 x Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here]<br><br />
1 x Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)<br><br />
1 x Riccardo Issoglio (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)<br><br />
1 x Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here]<br><br />
1 x Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )<br><br />
2 x Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!<br><br />
<br><br><br />
*'''Gruppo 2''' (coloro che non ci stanno nel primo gruppo o che vogliono aspettare che il primo gruppo abbia ricevuto il telefono):<br><br />
1 x Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com )<br><br />
1 x Marco Forasacco (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)<br><br />
1 x Gabriele Martino (pierino DOT the DOT living DOT joke AT gmail DOT com)<br><br />
1 x Massimo Valerio (my AT massimovalerio DOT it)<br><br />
...<br><br />
(aggiungersi chi è nuovo)<br><br />
<br><br><br />
<br />
-------------------------------------<br />
LISTA ORIGINALE (24/05/08 14:48):<br />
* Claudio Carnino <br/> (jollyr0g3r AT gmail DOT com)<br />
* Alessandro Degano <br/> (a.degano AT gmail DOT com)<br />
* Enrico Pigozzi <br/> (videokill71 AT gmail DOT com)<br />
* Max Ciavarella - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cicchetebom Contacts here]<br />
* Giuseppe Barbieri (elect86 at gmail dot com)<br />
* Riccardo Issoglio <br/> (riccardo.issoglio AT polito DOT it)<br />
* Flavio Pastore [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iron_Bishop Contacts here]<br />
* Michele Renda ( mic DOT renda AT email DOT it )<br />
* Katjia Mirri (gattoniglia AT gmail DOT com ) two items (ne voglio due)!!<br />
* Giovanni Di Mingo ( pino_otto AT yahoo DOT com )<br />
* Marco Forasacco <br/> (zer0fil3 AT gmail DOT com)<br />
* Gabriele Martino <br/> (pierino DOT the DOT living DOT joke AT gmail DOT com)<br />
* Massimo Valerio <br/> (my AT massimovalerio DOT it)<br />
--------------------------------------<br />
<br />
=== Trentino-Alto Adige ===<br />
==== Trento ====<br />
Status 3/10<br />
<br />
* Vincenzo D'Andrea (vincenzo.dandrea AT gmail DOT com) <br/> (also Verona is OK - and I can carry others' phone VR to TN or viceversa)<br />
* Emanuele Olivetti (emanuele CHIOCCIOLA relativita PUNTO com)<br />
* Marco Ciampa (ciampix (*) libero (*) it)<br />
<br />
=== Friuli Venezia Giulia ===<br />
==== Trieste ====<br />
Status: 1/10<br />
<br />
* dorje [mailto:dorje@libero.it dorje@libero.it] - [[User:dorje|dorje]]<br />
<br />
=== Veneto ===<br />
Status: 14/20<br />
<br />
==== Verona ====<br />
<br />
* Persegat [mailto:persegat@alice.it persegat@alice.it] - [[User:Pecce|Pecce]]<br />
* Sylar91 [mailto:sylar1991@gmail.com sylar1991@gmail.com] - [[User:Sylar91|Sylar91]]<br />
* Marco Franceschetti - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vonfritz Contacts here]<br />
* AleksFalcone [mailto:aleks.falcone@gmail.com aleks.falcone@gmail.com] - [[User:AleksFalcone|AleksFalcone]]<br />
* Roberto Previdi [mailto:hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com hariseldon78(AT)gmail.com] - [[User:hariseldon78|hariseldon78]] (also Milano is ok)<br />
<br />
==== Vicenza ====<br />
<br />
* Michele [mailto:michele@cooperativabiosphaera.it michele(at)cooperativabiosphaera.it] - <br />Also Padova is okay.<br />
<br />
* Paolo [mailto:paolo.sartore@gmail.com paolo.sartore(at)gmail.com]<br /> Also Padova is okay.<br />
<br />
* Renato [mailto:wasgiventofly@gmail.com wasgiventofly AT gmail DOT com]<br /><br />
<br />
* Sandro [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/vigerty contact me here]<br /> Also Padova is okay.<br />
<br />
* Marco [mailto:marco.napetti@linux.it marco.napetti(at)linux.it]<br /> Also Padova and Verona are ok.<br />
<br />
==== Venezia ====<br />
<br />
* Tommaso [mailto:tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com tommaso.gardumi@gmail.com] - [[User:Tobarello|Tobarello]] <br />Also Padova, Vicenza & Trento are ok.<br />
<br />
==== Treviso ====<br />
<br />
* Dario [mailto:aliasbrain@gmail.com aliasbrain(at)gmail.com] - [[User:Rastafan|Rastafan]] <br />one, maybe two.<br />
<br />
* Pedro [mailto:paguilar@junkerhq.net paguilar(at)junkerhq.net] - [[User:Paguilar|Paguilar]] <br/>Also Padova and Vicenza are ok.<br />
<br />
* mr [mailto:maurizio.rottin@gmail.com maurizio.rottin a-t gmail d-o-t com] - [[User:Mr|Mr]] <br/>one for sure, maybe two<br />
<br />
=== Emilia Romagna ===<br />
Status : 6/10<br />
==== Parma ====<br />
Status : 2/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Delian|Marco Albanese]] [mailto:delian2@gmail.com delian2@gmail.com] For Me, it's ok for the decentralized shipment ( Milano for example :) ).<br />
<br />
* [[User:Hachreak|Leonardo Rossi]] ssj3gokou AT libero Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.<br />
<br />
==== Ravenna ====<br />
Status : 2/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Fano|Stefano Ronconi]] fanharlok AT libero Dot it decentralized shipping is ok.<br />
* vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...). ( se ti vanno bene ambo le citta' basta dirlo tra parentesi. Cosi', si fa confusione :) )<br />
<br />
==== Bologna ====<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:nixy_999|Lorenzo]] nixy_999 AT yahoo Dot it Also for me it's ok the decentralized shipping.<br />
* vagamente AT gmail DOT com (even hub if it's necessary...).<br />
* [[User:lord.of.the.dimm|Mauro]] lord.of.the.dimm AT gmail DOT com decentralized shipping: OK.<br />
<br />
=== Puglia ===<br />
==== Lecce ====<br />
Status : 2/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Morpheus90|Morpheus90]] [mailto:ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com ugopiemontese@rudiaelinux.com]<br />
* [[User:Italyanker|italyanker]] [mailto:italyanker@gmail.com italyanker@gmail.com]<br />
<br />
==== Bari ====<br />
Status : 2/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Fradeve11|Fradeve11]] [mailto:fradeve@ubuntu-it.org fradeve@ubuntu-it.org]<br />
<br />
=== Abruzzo ===<br />
==== Pescara ====<br />
Status: 1/10<br />
<br />
* ZarZ [mailto:zarz25@gmail.com zarz25@gmail.com]<br />
<br />
=== Campania ===<br />
==== Caserta (and province) ====<br />
Status 1/10<br />
<br />
* fenoxxx [mailto:fenoxxx@gmail.com] - Aversa<br />
<br />
=== Lazio ===<br />
==== Roma ====<br />
Status 10/10<br />
<br />
Per coordinamento [http://groups.google.com/group/freerunner-italian-group-sales?hl=it '''Freerunner Italian Group Sales'''] (Roma)<br />
<br />
La precedenza è stabilita in base all'ordine di aggiunta nella lista inizale<br><br />
<br />
Gruppo 1 (incompleto):<br><br />
<br />
* Hire X 2 [mailto:hiretto@gmail.com hiretto@gmail.com] (Roma)<br />
* Darkbasic X 1 [mailto:darkbasic4(at)gmail darkbasic4(at)gmail] (Ancona)<br />
* zione X 1 [mailto:alessio.filipponio@gmail.com alessio.filipponio@gmail.com](Roma)<br />
* AntoMan X 1 [mailto:obe_65@yahoo.it AntoMan](Roma)<br />
* Christian X 1(Gino46) [mailto:christian.marzola@alice.it] (ferrara) Qualcuno me lo dovrebbe spedire. || Ci pensa Hire a spedirli a chi non è di Roma, mettete semplicemente in conto 8/9 euro in più per la spedizione.<br />
* Tempix X 1 [mailto:tempix11@gmail.com tempix11@gmail.com] (Ancona)<br />
* 6xsempre X 1 [mailto:6xsempre@jumpy.it] (frosinone)<br />
* lynx1673 X1 [mailto: acarfi at yahoo dot com] - lynx sei di Roma?<br />
* zullinux X1 [mailto: francesco dot zuliani at gmail dot com] (Roma)<br />
<br />
=== Liguria ===<br />
==== Genova ====<br />
Status 5/10<br />
<br />
* Luca Maranzano X 1 (liuk AT linux DOT it) [[User:liuk|liuk]]<br />
* Lorenzo Fornara X 1 (fw1987 AT hotmail DOT it)<br />
* Stefano Cutelle' X 1 (staff@ascservices.it) [[User:ascservices|ascservices]]<br />
* Andrea De Gaetano X 1 (dega1999 AT gmail DOT com) [[User:Dega1999|Dega1999]]<br />
* Salvo Schiavone X 1 (salvoschiavone AT gmail DOT com [[User:Salvador|Salvador]]<br />
<br />
=== Sicilia ===<br />
==== Palermo ====<br />
Status 10/10<br />
<br />
* Giorgio Marciano' X 1 [mailto:giorgio.marciano@email.it giorgio]<br />
* Michele Puccio X 1 [mailto:narkos@iol.it michele]<br />
* Roberto Calandra X 1 [mailto:isokazi@yahoo.it roberto]<br />
* Vincenzo Moreno Luna X 6 [mailto:ciop85plus@hotmail.com vincenzo]<br />
* Daniele Lupo X 1 [mailto:danwolf80@libero.it daniele]<br />
<br />
==== Messina ====<br />
Status 6/10<br />
<br />
* Melug X 6 [mailto:suuuper@messinalug.org MeLug]<br />
<br />
=== Calabria ===<br />
Status 2/10<br />
<br />
==== Catanzaro ====<br />
* Carlo Mangani X 1 [mailto:carlo.mangani@gmail.com carlo.mangani@gmail.com] - Lamezia Terme<br />
<br />
==== Cosenza ====<br />
* Francesco Portus X 1 [mailto:portusgraphics@gmail.com portusgraphics@gmail.com] - Bisignano (Cosenza)<br />
<br />
=== Sardegna ===<br />
==== Cagliari ====<br />
Status 1/10<br />
<br />
* Panta x 1 [[User:Panta]]<br />
Viaggio per tutta l'Isola, per cui, nel caso in cui arrivassimo a 10 utenti...<br />
<br />
== Macedonia ==<br />
=== Skopje ===<br />
Status 1/10<br />
* Kristijan Krsteski 1/10 <br /> [[User:neutrino]] <br /> [mailto:kristijan.krsteski@gmail.com]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== México ==<br />
=== Ciudad de México ===<br />
Status 1/10<br />
<br />
* Kozapatista [[Special:Emailuser/User:kozapatista|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Ciudad Victoria ===<br />
Status 3/10<br />
<br />
* 3x Gregorio Toscano [mailto:gtoscano@cinvestav.mx email]<br />
<br />
== [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands The Netherlands] ==<br />
(Discuss this group sale on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands talk page])<br />
<br />
* Marijn Kruisselbrink 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mkruisselbrink|Contact]]<br />
* Andy Powell 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ScaredyCat|Contact]]<br />
* Arjan Veenstra 1/10 [[User:AVee]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:AVee|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Gelderland ===<br />
<br />
==== Nijmegen ====<br />
* [[User:Blalien|Danny Bouwman]] (Ewijk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Blalien|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Nijkerk ====<br />
* [[User:Nicolas|Nico Veenkamp]] (Nijkerk 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:Nicolas|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Nijmegen ====<br />
* [[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] (Nijmegen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:A.dre|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Groningen ===<br />
<br />
==== Haren ====<br />
* [[User:akrabbe|Albert Krabbe]] (Haren 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:akrabbe|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Limburg ===<br />
<br />
==== Griendtsveen ====<br />
* [[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] (Griendtsveen 1x) [[Special:Emailuser/User:KenSentMe|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Noord-Brabant ===<br />
<br />
==== Bergen op Zoom ====<br />
* [[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Madjo|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Eindhoven ====<br />
* Christ van Willegen 1 [[User:ChristW]]<br />
* Jan van Nijnatten 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Javany|Contact]]<br />
* Atilla Filiz 1 + debug board[[Special:Emailuser/User:Atilla|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Noord Holland ===<br />
<br />
==== Amsterdam ====<br />
* Michel van Horssen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:mivaho|Contact]]<br />
* Frank Richter 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:res|Contact]]<br />
* Eric Smith 1/10 [[User:Eric Smith]]<br />
* Buddy Baars 1 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Budster|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Beverwijk ====<br />
* Theo Martens 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:T_M|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Bussum ====<br />
* Remco van Zuijlen 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:Remco|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Overijssel ===<br />
<br />
==== Deventer ====<br />
* Jan de Haan 1/10 [[User:Jan de Haan]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:Jan de Haan|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Enschede ====<br />
* Peter Hageman 1x [[Special:Emailuser/User:PingPong|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Hengelo ====<br />
* Sander Hoentjen 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:Tjikkun|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Zwolle ====<br />
* Boudewijn 1/10 [[User:Boudewijn|empty user page]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:Boudewijn|Contact]]; possibly got a second person interested<br />
<br />
=== Zuid-Holland ===<br />
<br />
==== Rijswijk ====<br />
* Fernando Martins 1x [[User:fmartins]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:fmartins|Contact]]<br />
* Igor 1x [[User:igorn]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:igorn|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Zoetermeer ====<br />
* S.Rademaker 1x [[User:S.rademaker]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:S.rademaker|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Rotterdam ====<br />
* Reinout van Schouwen [[User:reinouts]] [[Special:Emailuser/User:reinouts|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Utrecht ===<br />
<br />
==== Utrecht ====<br />
* Eric Spierings 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:ericsp|Contact]]<br />
* Peter van de Werken 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:PWerken|Contact]]<br />
* Kenny van Wanrooij 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:kenneth|Contact]]<br />
* Eduard Goudakov 1/10 [[Special:Emailuser/User:VreVo|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Status ===<br />
30/30<br />
<br />
== New Zealand ==<br />
===Networks===<br />
As Telecom are using the 850MHz network for their GSM network, and Vodafone/northelia (possibly aka orcon) are using 900/1800MHz, please state which version you want. This may need more research, I'm not 100%; see [http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml] for more info<br><br />
<br />
===Shipping===<br />
Based on info from steve (openmoko marketing) concerning weight and size, shipping via UPS will be about US$185 (NZ$24 each phone) to Auckland.<br><br />
UPS are far from the cheapest, but (again according to steve), OM have a contract with them, so this is what we are stuck with<br><br />
<br />
Someone on the community list suggested using [http://www.myus.com], a shipping company that will re-post items overseas at decent rates. They claim US$66 for a 3kg package, or NZ$8 per phone. Of course, the cost of shipping the phone from OM to the shipping company has to be added in as well.<br />
<br />
===Purchase cost===<br />
As of 2008-06-21, US$369 is worth NZ$484<br />
<br />
===Duty/taxes/other charges===<br />
import duty on mobile phones is 0%[http://www.customs.govt.nz/importers/Private+Importers/Customs+Charges.htm], and GST is 12.5% so the GST added to each phone will be NZ$64; 12.5% * (484 + 24), cos we pay GST on postage too...<br />
<br />
So, the total cost of a Freerunner as part of a 10 pack, will be:<br><br />
484 + 24 + 64<br><br />
= '''NZ$572'''<br><br />
<br />
+ any possible charges to get it posted elsewhere in New Zealand<br />
<br />
You'll also need to add on disbursement fees etc. If it's UPS it's not too bad (~NZ$40) if it comes through NZ Post then it can be ~NZ$120.<br />
<br />
'''[http://nicegear.co.nz nicegear]''' may be bringing some in depending on pricing from OpenMoko.<br />
<br />
=== Auckland ===<br />
==== [[Auckland group sales|Auckland]] ====<br />
Status:10 phones requested, the required minimum (10 phones) is reached, but more buyers are still welcome to join.<br><br />
13/20<br><br />
=====Intermediary=====<br />
Glen ogilvie made a suggestion, that we could use a company (e.g. someone's employer, who are likely to have easily found contact details and thus be trustworthy) to buy the phones on our behalf (after we'd paid for them), and then deliver them to us. <br><br />
any volunteers? do any of you have understanding bosses/your own company that could help out here?<br><br />
Dave Lane: I think '''[http://egressive.com Egressive]''' would be willing to act as an intermediary. Contact me to discuss it...<br/><br />
<br />
=== Purchaser List ===<br />
*Rob Paulson [[User:Myfanwy]] [mailto:robin.paulson@gmail.com] 900MHz<br />
**i'm quite happy to organise the purchase, if no-one has any objections. to ease any worries about me running off with the money, we could use an escrow service such as [http://safetrader.co.nz], or paypal. or does anyone have any other ideas?<br />
*Simon Wells [[User:Swel024]] 900MHz<br />
*Jeremy List [[User:Jeremy-list]] mailto:quick.dudley@gmail.com (Wellington, not Auckland, will pay for courier) 900MHz<br />
*David Murrell [[User:Viddy]] - [mailto:dmurrell@waikato.ac.nz] I'm in Hamilton, either courier, or I'll drive up :) 900MHz<br />
*Jeremy Gray [[User:Bogdan237]] [mailto:jgra163@ec.auckland.ac.nz] Auckland, 900MHz<br />
*Xuân Baldauf [[User:xbaldauf]] [mailto:xuan--2008.05--GroupSales--wiki.openmoko.org@baldauf.org] Auckland CBD, 900MHz+1800MHz GSM with an [http://www.ak2.com.tw/pd_main.asp?sg_id=11 '''EU''' charger clip] instead of an Australian one (if this is in need to be selected). This is <u>conditional</u>: the transaction must complete by 2008-06-30, else I cannot participate, because I'm leaving the country afterwards.<br />
*Paul Roe [[User:Par08]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Par08 contact me here] Christchurch, 2 x 900MHz<br />
*Dave Lane [[User:dangerpossum]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dangerpossum contact] Christchurch, 1 x 900MHz + 1800MHz GSM<br />
*Paul Hunkin [[User:paulhunkin]] [mailto:pwh4@cs.waikato.ac.nz Contact] Hamilton (I'll pay for a courier), 1 x 900MHz.<br />
*Paul Sandkuijl [[User:Edictor]] [http://www.edictor.com/contact.php Contact me here] Napier (I'll pay for postage to Napier from Auckland) and I also suggest a PayPal/Safetrader similar service, 1 Vodafone compatible 900/1800MHz.<br />
*Brent Wood [[User:pcreso]] [mailto:pcreso@pcreso.com Email] Wellington. Will pay courier to Wgtn. 1x Vodafone compatible 900/1800Mhz unit<br />
*Glen Ogilvie [[User:Nelg]] [mailto:nelg@linuxsolutions.co.nz Email] Auckland, 1x Vodafone compatible 900Mhz.<br />
<br />
=== Wellington ===<br />
==== [[Wellington group sales|Wellington]] ====<br />
Status: 1/10<br />
*Andrew Stephen [[User:lizardb0y]] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lizardb0y email me] Wellington, 1 x 900/1800Mhz GSM Vodafone compatible.<br />
<br />
== Norway ==<br />
=== Nordland ===<br />
==== Bodø ====<br />
Status 2/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:AlecTBM|Alexander Frøyseth]] [mailto:alexander.froyseth@gmail.com alexander.froyseth@gmail.com]<br />
* Ole Marius<br />
* Stian Vading<br />
* [[User:Kolbjorn.Dahle|Kolbjorn Dahle]][mailto:kolbjorn@dahlenett.org]<br />
<br />
=== Sør-Trøndelag ===<br />
==== Trondheim ====<br />
Status 14/20<br />
<br />
*[[User:andy000|Andreas Kalvå]] [mailto:andy@samfundet.no andy@samfundet.no]<br />
Send mail om du er interessert.<br />
<br />
=== Østlandet ===<br />
==== Oslo, Akershus, Buskerud, Vestfold ====<br />
Status: 30/?? <br/><br />
30/30 er bestilt via [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] <br/><br />
ingen har påtatt seg å bestille inn flere, men det er etterspørsel etter fler.<br />
<br />
* [[User:Ixian|Heikki Sørum]] [mailto:heikkis@matnat.uio.no] <br/> (30/30) FULT! Ta likevel kontakt for veiledning. <br />
* [[User:StianEllingsen|Stian Ellingsen]]<br />
<br />
==== Østfold ====<br />
Status 2/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:MrBlonde|Petter Nygård]] [mailto:pettnyg@frisurf.no] <br />Interessert? -> Mail meg....<br />
* Eirik Lavik<br />
<br />
=== Vestlandet ===<br />
==== Bergen ====<br />
Status 1/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:alastairj|Alastair Jenkins]] [mailto:alastair.jenkins@gfi.uib.no]<br />
* [[User:olemd|Ole-Morten Duesund]] [mailto:olemd@glemt.net]<br />
<br />
== Poland ==<br />
<br />
* Special group buy site: https://www.kumulator.pl/show/group/35 (in edition moment: 37/40)<br />
<br />
== Portugal ==<br />
Portuguese (10/10) who are associates of ANSOL, please consider joining [[TeamANSOL]] (currently 5/10 members).<br />
<br />
We also need to have a cost estimation for Portuguese customs (like the Australians did). 20% sales tax + customs tax is to be expected both for individual or bulk sales, because the price is quite high. But freedom is priceless :)<br />
<br />
=== Aveiro ===<br />
==== Aveiro ====<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Ruben|Ruben Mendes]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br />
<br />
=== Lisboa ===<br />
==== Lisboa ====<br />
Status : 9/10<br />
<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Danielblues Daniel Branco]<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Knuckles Ivo Anjo]<br />
* [[User:Pedrosilva|Pedro Silva]]<br />
* Ricardo Sousa ([[TeamANSOL]])<br />
* [[User:RuiSeabra|Rui Seabra]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vasco Vasco Névoa]<br />
* [[User:Jcanelas|José Canelas]]<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Brunus Bruno Valentim]<br />
* José Esteves ([[TeamANSOL]])<br />
<br />
=== Porto ===<br />
==== Porto ====<br />
Status: 1/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:villate|Jaime Villate]] ([[TeamANSOL]])<br />
<br />
== Sweden ==<br />
If insufficient number of people, orders could be merged and remailed perhaps.<br />
<br />
Domestic remailing with Posten as A-class mail of a letter (criteria: length+width+height max 900 mm) weighing max 1 kg, without insurance should [http://www.posten.se/foretag/vara_tjanster/postageguide/postguideLetterDom.jspv cost 44 SEK]. 50 SEK more for insurance.<br />
<br />
If we end up with more than one 10-pack in Sweden, my guess is that it would probably pay to order everything in one shipment to one address in Sweden to save on the international shipping, and then remail domestically.<br />
<br />
=== Götaland ===<br />
==== Göteborg ====<br />
<br />
* [[User:Fwendt|Fredrik Wendt]] [[Special:Emailuser/Fwendt|Contact]]/wendt.se<br />
<br />
==== Malmö ====<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
<br />
* Lars Jarlvik <br /> mailto:lars@larsfactory.se<br />
<br />
=== Svealand ===<br />
==== Stockholm ====<br />
Status : 10/10<br />
<br />
* Erland Lewin <br /> mailto:erland@lewin.nu<br />
* Simon Kågström <br /> mailto:simon.kagstrom@gmail.com<br />
* Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson <br /> mailto:ingi@ultimalabor.se<br />
* Adam Johansson <br /> mailto:adam@sollentunaholm.se<br />
* Lowe Schmidt <br /> mailto:lowe.schmidt@gmail.com<br />
* [[User:Dex|Johan Eklundh]]<br/> Mail automated via contact page.<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/esbjorn Esbjörn Dominique]<br />
* Johan Erlands <br /> mailto:johan.erlands@gmail.com<br />
* [[User:Joel | Joel Metelius ]] [[Special:Emailuser/Joel | (contact)]] 1 phone + 1 debug (if possible)<br />
* Peter Wihlner <br /> mailto:info@faktor.nu<br />
<br />
==== Örebro ====<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
<br />
* Anders Petersson <br /> [mailto:demitar@worldforge.org demitar@worldforge.org]<br />
<br />
==== Västerås ====<br />
Status : 2/10<br />
* Jörgen Lidholm, could join the Falun/Borlänge or Stockholm group <br /> [mailto:jorgen.lidholm@gmail.com]<br />
* John Törnblom, can also join the Stockholm group <br /> [mailto:f04jto@student.lth.se]<br />
<br />
==== Falun & Borlänge ====<br />
Status : 4/10<br />
<br />
* [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Jth Johan Thelmén], Åke Hoff & a demo/backup<br />
* [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:eagle87 Pär Eriksson], Borlänge<br />
<br />
=== Norrland ===<br />
==== Umeå ====<br />
Status : 2/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Zash|Zash]] [[Special:Emailuser/Zash|Contact]]<br />
* [[User:Benjamin|Benjamin]] [[Special:Emailuser/Benjamin|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Luleå ====<br />
Status : 3/10<br />
<br />
* [[User:Mjukis|Mjukis]] [[Special:Emailuser/Mjukis|Contact]] - 2 Units. Can also join the Malmö group order.<br />
* [[User:mh|mh]] 1 unit, mailto:mh@rcc.se If not up to 10 by launch. i'd join any group and either pick it up or have it remailed nationally<br />
== Switzerland ==<br />
<br />
'''???''' should organize the 3 x 10pack for Zürich <br /><br />
Luca Capello could organize the 10pack for Geneva. <br /><br />
Mathieu will organisze the 2 x 10pack for Lausanne EPFL CH-fr <br /><br />
<br />
All payment in advance (a 10pack will cost approx 3'800 USD). <br /><br />
<br />
'''Probably we will organize shippings, if we cannot all move to Zürich/Genève/Lausanne to get our Neo.'''<br />
<br />
''François Bianco is trying to create a new group of 10 (will be mostly for French Switzerland). -> The group moved to the EPFL group, which will try to reach 20 persons. --[[User:Fbianco|Fbianco]] 11:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)''<br /><br />
''Gabriel Ambuehl would volunteer to order the initial 10pack. <- still accurate ? -> Gabriel will not organize the 10packs for Zürich due to not being in Switzerland. We are in contact to find a solution so please wait until we know what to do. Order in Germany (each for himself or as a group, not clear yet) could be as cheap as a 10pack. We are in contact with pulster.de and will be contacted form pulster about the price. We will contact you guys in the Zürich list as soon as we know more --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 10:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)''<br /><br />
''Alexandre Ghisoli will not organize the second 10pack, since the order moved in the Lucca's group.'' <br /><br />
<br />
<br />
=== Customs and Postage ===<br />
I called the [http://www.ezv.admin.ch/index.html?lang=en Swiss Federal Customs Administration] and it seems that we only need to pay VAT (7.6%) and the UPS taxes as well (since the parcel will be sent through UPS). Thus I called [http://www.ups.com/content/ch/en/contact/ UPS] and it seems that UPS directly pays the VAT instead of the customer, then asking the customer for refund (plus a fixed tax of EUR13.00). So I think the following per-phone cost for a Swiss bulk order should be a good estimate.<br />
<br />
{| border="1"<br />
|'''Bulk Order'''<br />
|'''USD'''<br />
|'''CHF'''<br />
|-<br />
|Customs Value (Cval)<br />
|3690.00<br />
|3837.60<br />
|-<br />
|Postage<br />
|160.00<br />
|166.40<br />
|-<br />
|Value of Taxable Importation (VoTI) = Cval+Postage<br />
|3850.00<br />
|4004.00<br />
|-<br />
|VAT = 7.6% of VoTI<br />
|292.60<br />
|304.30<br />
|-<br />
|UPS fixed tax (EUR13.00)<br />
|20.00<br />
|20.80<br />
|-<br />
|Total Cost<br />
|4162.60<br />
|4329.10<br />
|-<br />
|'''Per Person'''<br />
|'''416.26'''<br />
|'''432.91'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
Figures accurate as of 4th Jun 2008 from [http://www.ubs.com/1/e/index/bcqv/calculator.html UBS]: 1EUR = 1.54USD and 1USD = 1.04CHF.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==== Shipping ====<br />
If we would ship Neos, here is the Swiss PostPac prices :<br />
<br />
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2"<br />
! Description<br />
! Size [cm]<br />
! Price CHF TTC<br />
|-<br />
| Size 1<br />
| 22.9 x 14.7 x 9.9<br />
| 2.20<br />
|-<br />
| Size 2<br />
| 31.5 x 22.5 x 12.5<br />
| 2.40<br />
|-<br />
| Shipping Priority<br />
| up to 2Kg<br />
| 8.-<br />
|-<br />
| Shipping Economy<br />
| up to 2Kg<br />
| 6.-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br /><br />
<br />
Steve posted informations about boxes that will be out with Neo :<br />
<br />
* 10 pack : 435mm x 371mm x 119mm, approx 3kg, UPS will charge 160USD (need to be verified)<br />
* Individual pack : 178mm x 104mm x 84mm, 237 grams<br />
<br />
So size 1 will fit ! Local delivery in Switzerland will cost 8.20 for Economy or 10.20 Priority.<br />
<br />
==== Zurich ====<br />
Status : 28/30 <br /><br />
'''Contact person who order the 10Pack : ??'''<br />
<br />
List already contains 30 people!<br /><br />
''-- I changed from 20 -> 30 Devices in this order. --[[User:Tuxfux.ch|Tuxfux.ch]] 18:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)''<br />
<br />
* Simon Wenner <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nowic Contact]<br />
* Simon Schreiber <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]<br />
* Markus Huggler (Winterthur)<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Magbeat Contact]<br />
* Andre Timmermann <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]<br />
* Raffael Schmid <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]<br />
* Pascal Weller <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/darktim Contact]<br />
* Nick Zbinden (Luzern)<br /> [mailto:nickik@gmx.ch] oder [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nickik Contact]<br />
* Marcel Wirth <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Skarhand Contact]<br />
* Marcel Lütolf (Luzern)<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/NeRo Contact]<br />
* Christian Corrodi <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matto Contact]<br />
* Mirko Klingauf <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/RealAtaman Contact]<br />
* Marcel Jost (Bern, with debug board if possible) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Onsonic Contact]<br />
* Marc Andre Tanner (Biel)<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mat Contact]<br />
* Peter Salvisberg<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Psal Contact]<br />
* Martin Kos <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/KoS Contact]<br />
* Lorenz Schori (Bern) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Znerol Contact]<br />
* Pascal Mages (Bern/Zürich) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/FreeMind Contact]<br />
* Esra Kummer (2 Geräte!) (Winterthur)<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tuxfux.ch Contact]<br />
* Joerg Maeder (Opfikon) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/goergel Contact]<br />
* Marc Bodmer (Solothurn) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/minxx Contact]<br />
* Carlos Diener (Winterthur) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Emonkey Contact]<br />
* Philipp Meier (Zürich) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/PhilippMeier Contact]<br />
* Adrian Rudin (Basel) <br /> [mailto:adrian@mav.ch] or [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/blackmav Contact]<br />
* Christof Pfister (Lyss) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chpfister Contact]<br />
* Walter Sutter (Winterthur) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/seraphim Contact]<br />
* Philipp Hug (St. Gallen) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Philipphug Contact]<br />
* Thomas Jund (Aarau)<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/none Contact]<br />
<br />
==== Geneve ====<br />
Status : 10/10 <br /><br />
'''Contact person who order the 10Pack : Luca Capello <br />'''<br />
WARNING, this list already contains 10 people! -- LucaCapello<br />
<br />
* Diego Abelenda<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Aelia Contact]<br />
* Luca Capello<br /> [mailto:luca@pca.it]<br />
* Nicolas Produit<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Produit Contact]<br />
* Sebastien Nanchen <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sn Contact]<br />
* Matthieu de Montmollin <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Matthieudem Contact]<br />
* Robin Farine (Auvernier)<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rfarine Contact]<br />
* Alexandre Ghisoli (Yverdon)<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Agh Contact]<br />
* Raphael Studer (Thurgau) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Tschudder Contact]<br />
* Christian Wäckerlin <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/boognu Contact]<br />
* Michael Stähli (Lausanne EPFL) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/adler Contact]<br />
<br />
==== Suisse romande / Lausanne (EPFL) ====<br />
Status : 20/20 <strong>COMPLETE</strong><br /><br />
'''Contact person who order the 10Packs : [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Mathieu Habegger] <br />'''<br />
<br />
* Mathieu Habegger (EPFL) <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Habi Contact]<br />
* Matthias Brändli (EPFL) <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hb9egm Contact]<br />
* Frédéric Fokan(Lausanne) <br />[mailto:fredericfokan@gmail.com Contact]<br />
* Gulu (Lausanne) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Gulu Contact]<br />
* Edomaur (Lausanne, with Gulu) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Edomaur Contact]<br />
* Layx (Lausanne) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Layx Contact]<br />
* Mélanie Baumann (EPFL) <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/calis Contact]<br />
* Laurent Fasnacht (EPFL) <br />[http://gnugeneration.epfl.ch/users/fasnacht Contact]<br />
* Urs Blaser (UNIL) <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/arctus Contact]<br />
* David Lütolf (EPFL) <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dlutolf Contact]<br />
* François Bianco <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/fbianco Contact]<br />
* Samuel Dorsaz <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/akira Contact]<br />
* Ludovic Fardel (EPFL) <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lfardel Contact]<br />
* David Pelichet <br />Contact via hb9egm<br /><br />
* Vincent Hentsch <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Vincos Contact]<br />
* Carruzzo Gilles <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Willows Contact]<br />
* Nicolas Favrod-Coune <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Nfavrod Contact]<br />
* Mathias Coinchon <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Coinchon Contact]<br /><br />
* Rey Cyril (Monthey) <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cyril Contact]<br />
* Didier Raboud (EPFL) <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/OdyX Contact]<br />
* ---- '''The 20 pack is complete''' ----<br />
<br /><br />
'''''This list will be extended to 30 only if we can complete the 30 pieces'''''<br /> ''Add your name below if you're interested --[[User:Habi|Habi]] 19:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)''<br />
* ''Claude Angéloz <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/claude-elrond740 Contact]''<br />
* Pascal Bach (EPFL) <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Anakron Contact]<br />
* Nicolas Etienne (Gimel) <br />[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/nice Contact]<br />
* Michel Dänzer (Bern)<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MrCooper Contact]<br />
<br />
== Spain ==<br />
=== Spain (Country Group Sale) ===<br />
Status: 16/20<br />
<br />
=== Madrid ===<br />
==== Madrid ====<br />
Status : 5/10<br />
<br />
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Rafael Campos [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Methril Contact] <br /><br />
<br />
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Pabloruiz contact me here]<br />
<br />
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Carlos Padilla Sorbas [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:cymonline contact me here]<br />
<br />
* [[Special:Emailuser/Troy|Alvaro Garcia Roy]] 1 phone<br />
<br />
* [[User:kresp0 | Santiago Crespo]] 1 phone<br />
<br />
=== Zaragoza ===<br />
==== Zaragoza ====<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
<br />
* Arturo Giner<br/>[[Special:Emailuser/artginer|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Barcelona ===<br />
==== Barcelona ====<br />
Status : 7/10<br />
<br />
* José Luis Pérez <br/>[[Special:Emailuser/jluis|Contact]]<br />
* David Reyes Samblas Martinez<br/>[[Special:Emailuser/mutrox|Contact]]<br />
* Sergio Arias <br/>[[Special:Emailuser/saerguio|Contact]]<br />
* Alex Muntada <br/>[[Special:Emailuser/alexm|Contact]]<br />
* Pascal co <br/>[[Special:Emailuser/pascalco|Contact]]<br />
* Antonio Rodríguez ( x2 )<br/>[[Special:Emailuser/AntonioR|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Valencia ===<br />
==== Valencia ====<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
<br />
* Pau Gaspar Díaz <br/>[[Special:Emailuser/pau|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Islas Canarias ===<br />
==== Tenerife ====<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
<br />
* Enrique Hernández Bello <br/>[[Special:Emailuser/SiNiESTrO|Contact]]<br />
<br />
== UAE ==<br />
Status: 1/10<br />
* Yaser Ammar <br /> [[Special:Emailuser/Waraqa|Contact]]<br />
<br />
== USA ==<br />
=== Arizona ===<br />
==== Tucson ====<br />
Willing to reship to nonlocal people within the US (cheaper if you're closer), or get absorbed into another group that's willing to reship. In talks with Boulder (Colorado) group.<br />
<br />
Status: 3/10<br />
* [mailto:wes.shull@gmail.com wesshull] Wes Shull - 1x GTA02 + 1x debug board<br />
* Richard Reichenbacher - 2x GTA02<br />
<br />
=== Colorado ===<br />
==== Boulder ====<br />
Status: 8/10<br />
* Vinc Duran x2 (I can purchase and distribute locally) <br /> [mailto:uberpfloyd@gmail.com?subject=Openmoko%20group%20sales Pfloyd] [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pfloyd Contact]<br />
* John Miller <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jwm jwm]<br />
* D Padilla <br /><br />
* Joey Stanford <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/k0fcc k0fcc]<br />
* J Hinegardner <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/jjh jjh]<br />
* S Derrick of New Mexico x2 <br /><br />
<br />
==== Denver (Full) ====<br />
Status: 10/10 (includes the gentleman from Utah)<br />
* Shawn Sullivan <br /> [[mailto:shelbydz87@yahoo.com shelbydz87@yahoo.com]]<br />
* Peter Abplanalp <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/alderion Contact]<br />
* Ben Burdette <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ansible Contact]<br />
* Tom Russell <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tazbert Contact]<br />
* Trace <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/gnork Contact]<br />
<br />
==== Fort Collins ====<br />
Status: 1/10<br />
* Paul Hummer <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rockstar Contact]<br />
<br />
=== California ===<br />
==== Los Angeles ====<br />
Status: 8/10<br />
<br />
* Ian Douglas, Santa Monica <br /> I'll help organize a group sale, meet & greet, but since I was selected to help test the Freerunner, I won't need to actually purchase one. [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Iandouglas Contact me here]<br />
* Matthew Wetmore, Westchester 90045 <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Wetmoko Contact]<br />
* Daniel, Torrance <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Beaker82 Contact]<br />
* James Robertson, Irvine <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JamesRobertson Contact]<br />
* Bill Sun <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/DancingSun Contact]<br />
* Michael, Santa Monica <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Bstudios Contact]<br />
* Russel Dwiggins, Cerritos <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/undrwater Contact]<br />
* Dima, Pasadena <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dima Contact]<br />
* Mike, Santa Monica (1 unit + 1 debug board)<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Traveler Contact]<br />
<br />
==== San Diego ====<br />
<br />
Status: 8/10<br />
<br />
Includes North County, Riverside, Tijuana, etc.<br />
<br />
* Peter Naulls, Carlsbad (South)/Mira Mesa (near Qualcomm) - will coordinate.<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Pnaulls Contact]<br />
* Tracy Reed <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/treed Contact]<br />
* Adam Hughes <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ajinxa Contact]<br />
* Paul Breed <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/pbreed Contact]<br />
* Greg Davidson <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JGregD Contact]<br />
* Larry Riedel <br /> [mailto:Larry@Riedel.org Contact]<br />
* David Wilhelm <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/bluefir Contact]<br />
* Jim McLaughlin - could move to LA group if needed as other company office is near LAX<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rpq Contact]<br />
<br />
==== San Francisco Bay Area ====<br />
Status: 10/10 Full<br />
<br />
(Discuss this group sale, pickup and payments on the [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#San_Francisco_Bay_Area talk page])<br />
<br />
* Ajit Natarajan - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/ajitk Contact]<br />
<br />
* Dirk Bergstrom - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/krid Contact]<br />
<br />
* Tupshin Harper - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/tupshin Contact]<br />
<br />
* Lothar Werzinger (900MHz) - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Elektrolott Contact]<br />
<br />
* William Ray Yeager - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/wyeager Contact]<br />
<br />
* Sebastian Coe - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/savari Contact]<br />
<br />
* Jim Morris - (Agreed to organize purchase) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/wolfmanjm Contact]<br />
<br />
* Brian Carver - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/brianwc Contact]<br />
<br />
* Cry Regarder (2 units, cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cry_Regarder Contact]<br />
<br />
Status 6/10<br />
* Cry Regarder (1 units, cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cry_Regarder Contact]<br />
<br />
* Jim Lutz - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/JLutz Contact]<br />
<br />
* Kelley Eitzen - (Cash or Paypal) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Xeromist Contact]<br />
<br />
* Paul Mahon - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/dufflebunk Contact] (San Jose)<br />
<br />
* William Morgan - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Williamallthing Contact]<br />
<br />
* ken restivo - (cash) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/kenrestivo Contact]<br />
<br />
=== Florida ===<br />
==== Central Florida ====<br />
Status 1/10<br />
* 1 x Jonathan Howard [[Special:Emailuser/kingtgaurd9|Contact]], Orlando <br />
<br />
=== Idaho ===<br />
==== Southwestern Idaho ====<br />
Status 2/10<br />
* 1 × Eugene Kravtsov [[Special:Emailuser/theUg|Contact]], Garden City (Boise).<br />
* 1 × Christopher Blay [[Special:Emailuser/blayde|Contact]], Twin Falls.<br />
<br />
=== Midwest ===<br />
'''(combine Illinois / Iowa / Tennesee / Texas / Wisconsin)'''<br />
Status: 10/10<br />
* Steven M [[Special:Emailuser/Montgoss|Contact]] - Cedar Rapids, IA<br />
* Joseph Booker [[Special:Emailuser/Sargas|Contact]] - Chicago, IL<br />
* Matt McCormick [[Special:Emailuser/Thewtex|Contact]] - Madison, WI<br />
* Charles Hill [mailto:charles.e.hill@gmail.com email] - Chicago, IL<br />
* Greg Bonett [mailto:greg@bonett.org email] - Iowa City, IA<br />
* Tushar Dayal [mailto:tdayal@gmail.com Contact] - Ames, IA<br />
* solomon jacob herscovitch [[Special:Emailuser/SoloSalsa|Contact]] - Chicago, IL<br />
* Eric Olson [mailto:ericools@gmail.com Contact] - Madison, WI<br />
* Tom Watson [[Special:Emailuser/Toggles|Contact]] - Pittsburgh, PA<br />
* An-Phong Le [mailto:an427@hotmail.com Contact] - Urbana, IL<br />
<br />
=== Kentucky === <br />
(Possibly + 2 from Memphis?)<br />
Status: 8/10 (Possibly 10?)<br />
* Dan Staley [[Special:Emailuser/Pyrasi|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br />
* Donnie Jones [[Special:Emailuser/Donniejones18|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br />
* John Sterling [[Special:Emailuser/Sterling|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br />
* James MacLachlan [[Special:Emailuser/Jmaclachlan|Contact]] (Louisville, KY)<br />
* John Askew [[Special:Emailuser/Johnaskyou|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br />
* Devin Cook [[Special:Emailuser/Dcook|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br />
* Geoff Ruscoe [[Special:Emailuser/Geocode|Contact]] - Louisville, KY<br />
* Jon Howard [[Special:Emailuser/Jchoward|Contact]] (Lexington, KY)<br />
<br />
=== Ohio / Michigan ===<br />
Status: 10/10<br />
* David Pais (Unknown City) [mailto:davioh2001@yahoo.com email]<br />
* Dave Ludlow (Toledo) (I can purchase and distribute) [[Special:Emailuser/adsllc|Contact]]<br />
* Adam Steele (Cincinnati) [mailto:adam@laurasteele.net Contact]<br />
* Elliot Bailey (Canton) [mailto:elliot.bailey@yahoo.com Contact]<br />
* Richard Rowell (Grand Rapids) [mailto:richard.rowell@gmail.com Contact]<br />
* [mailto:sf_openmoko10pak2@paulwehr.com Paul Wehr] Ann Arbor<br />
* Micah Krafcik (Youngstown) [mailto:mjk20xx@yahoo.com Contact]<br />
* Doug Wurtzbacher (Centerville) x2 [mailto:doug@medicineshoppekett.com Contact]<br />
* Martin Dicks (Columbus) [[Special:Emailuser/mdicks|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Pacific Northwest ===<br />
==== Oregon ====<br />
===== Eugene =====<br />
Status: 2/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Washington group) <br />
<br />
* Quentin Hartman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/qhartman|Contact]] Willing to organize the Oregon group buy and/or be absorbed into another Pacific NW group if too few locals sign up.<br />
* Brian Wilson (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Brian_H_Wilson|Contact]] (in Corvallis actually)<br />
<br />
==== Washington ====<br />
===== Seattle =====<br />
Status: 8/10 Full (Full - joined forces with Oregon group)<br />
* Jon Pomeroy (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Jepomeroy|Contact]]<br />
* Andrew Hirata (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/tonkatsu182|Contact]] Note: I live in Bellevue<br />
* Chris Baker (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/cwainb|Contact]]<br />
* Mark Zimmerman (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mawazi|Contact]]<br />
* Wim Lewis (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/Wiml|Contact]] In Wallingford.<br />
* Charles Wheeler (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/SnowWolf75|Contact]] Note: Work in Bellevue, live in Federal Way. May not have money till mid-July.<br />
* Gino O (Status confirmed) (i n f o @ seatlewebcreations.com) I live on Beacon Hill and own 2 companies, one for web and another for opensource mobile development. I'd like to get @ least one, and may be able to cover the difference for a group purchase if need be.<br />
* Matt Luzum (Status confirmed) [[Special:Emailuser/mluzum|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Tennessee ===<br />
==== Memphis ====<br />
Status: 2/10<br />
* Peter O'Connor [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/poconnor Contact]<br />
* Jarvis Stubblefield (Prefer with Debug) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BallisticPain Contact]<br />
<br />
=== Texas ===<br />
==== Austin (15/10) ====<br />
* Dale Schumacher [[Special:Emailuser/dalnefre|Contact]]<br />
* Michael Cosby [[Special:Emailuser/mcosby|Contact]]<br />
* Paul Jimenez [[Special:Emailuser/pj|Contact]]<br />
* Charles [[Special:Emailuser/rbn|Contact]]<br />
* Anthony Kitchin [[Special:Emailuser/akitchin|Contact]]<br />
* Carl (x2) [[Special:Emailuser/texatopia|Contact]]<br />
* Robert (+Debug Board) [[Special:Emailuser/SHaRK|Contact]] (Houston)<br />
* Bryan DeLuca [[Special: Emailuser/Stupkid|Contact]] (Fort Worth)<br />
* Dennis Parker [[Special: Emailuser/dparker|Contact]]<br />
* Chip Rosenthal [[Special: Emailuser/chip|Contact]]<br />
* Brad Mouring [[Special: Emailuser/Bmouring|Contact]] (Moving to Austin by mid-June, likely earlier)<br />
* Joel Greenberg [[Special: Emailuser/joelg|Contact]]<br />
* Hans Loeblich [[Special: Emailuser/Peepsalot|Contact]]<br />
* Mark Rinaudo [[Special:Emailuser/Mrinaudo|Contact]]<br />
* Scott Farrell [[Special:Emailuser/sfarrell|Contact]]<br />
<br />
==== Dallas (2/10) ====<br />
* Philip White [[Special:Emailuser/pmw|Contact]]<br />
* Stephen Shelton [[Special:Emailuser/stephenashelton|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Mid-Atlantic ===<br />
==== District of Columbia (DC) Metro Area ====<br />
* Brian DeRocher [[Special:Emailuser/brian_252|email]]<br />
==== Virginia====<br />
===== Virginia Tech (1/10) =====<br />
* Lally Singh [[Special:Emailuser/lally|email]] -- yeah, if you're ordering anywhere in VA, lemme know.<br /><br />
===== Richmond (1/10)=====<br />
*Steve Watson mailto:ssw0213@gmail.com<br/><br />
<br />
==== New York (19/20) ====<br />
<br />
* Bert Hartmann [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/BertHartm Contact me here] <br /><br />
* Michael Cole mailto:mjcole137@gmail.com <br /><br />
* Remy Frerebeau [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Rfrerebe Contact me here] <br /><br />
* Ulises E. Erickson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ulix Contact me here] <br /><br />
* Justin Daly [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/justo Contact me here] <br /><br />
* Philippe Gerard [[Special:Emailuser/feydreva|Contact]] I live in Richmond (VA) but we will never be 10 there<br/><br />
* Evan Charlton mailto:evancharlton+om@gmail.com <br /><br />
* Paul Buede mailto:paul@buede.com <br /><br />
* Baruch Even [[Special:Emailuser/poka|Contact me here]]<br/><br />
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced)Paul Hurlock [[Special:Emailuser/triclosan|Contact me here]] <br/><br />
* Ryan [[Special:Emailuser/ryan|Contact me here]] (Connecticut, actually, but close enough.) <br/><br />
* Charles Pax mailto:charles.pax@gmail.com<br />
* Chrisropher Pax mailto:christopher.pax@gmail.com<br />
* Miki Grof-Tisza [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/MTisza Contact me here] <br /><br />
* Daniel Dadap 1x [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/danek Contact me here] - If we don't reach 20 by release date I intend to purchase individually.<br /><br />
* Yaroslav Halchenko [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/yarikoptic]<br />
* Craig Woodward [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Woody14619|Contact here] or mailto:woody14619@yahoo.com Up-state & will require re-ship.<br />
* Alex [[Special:Emailuser/rakukin|Contact]]<br />
* Charles Lohr [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Cnlohr Contact me here] (Lives in MD, will require re-ship) NOTE: Unless someone emails me before July 7 I will withdraw from group order. <br /><br />
<br />
==== Maryland (0/10)====<br />
(Group apparently defunct due to NY Order)<br />
* Paul Buede I switched to New York, cause we don't have enough. Look up ^ <br /><br />
* Charles Lohr -- Switched to New York (if possible)<br />
* Alex (switched to NYC, see above; may be able to deliver phone(s) to DC metro)<br />
<br />
==== North Carolina (3/10)====<br />
* Jason Sharpee [[Special:Emailuser/zonyl|Contact]] - Charlotte Metro area <br /><br />
* William Vidrine [[Special:Emailuser/Infoport|Contact]] - Greensboro/Triad area, will be part of an NC or Mid-Atlantic order; will drop out and order individually if 10 not reached. <br /><br />
* Joe White [[Special:Emailuser/Raygions|Contact]] - Winston-Salem/Triad area <br /><br />
<br />
=== Massachusetts ===<br />
Status: 10/10 (Full)<br />
* Benjamin Moody [[Special:Emailuser/FloppusMaximus|Contact]]<br />
<br />
* Ken Young, Cambridge (Note, if we're not up to 10/10 on the day the Freerunner is announced, I'm going to drop out and order individually).[[Special:Emailuser/Dolson|Contact]]<br />
<br />
* Chris White (for 2) [[Special:Emailuser/Safire|Contact]]<br />
<br />
* Nick Dube - Pembroke, NH (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Doobe01 Contact]<br />
<br />
* Justin Brzozoski - Worcester, MA area [[Special:Emailuser/Jabski|Contact]]<br />
<br />
* John Nicholson - Amherst, MA (Will also drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/nicklogan|Contact]]<br />
<br />
* Matthew Campbell - Worcester, MA [[Special:Emailuser/lifeisafractal|Contact]]<br />
<br />
* Jeff Gold [[Special:Emailuser/jgold|Contact]]<br />
<br />
* Craig Allen [[Special:Emailuser/knodalyte|Contact]]<br />
<br />
Status: 7/10<br />
<br />
* Bala Nair - Acton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/bnair|Contact]]<br />
* Mike Doody - Groton, MA [[Special:Emailuser/dude|Contact]]<br />
* 0x Nathan Perry - Derry, NH (cannot switch to GSM at this time)<br />
* Kyle Harrington - Amherst, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/dancingcuziwanna|Contact]]<br />
* Ryan Svoboda - Worcester, MA (Will buy one individually on release day if this group is incomplete) [[Special:Emailuser/ryansv|Contact]]<br />
* Ryan Meador - Worcester, MA (Will drop out if we do not have 10 by Freerunner release.) [[Special:Emailuser/Yanroy|Contact]]<br />
* Jeff Gelbard - Haydenville, MA [[Special:Emailuser/jgelbard|Contact]]<br />
(Between the 2 groups, we already have 7 "visibly" from Worchester - Western MA...I think the group should be resorted....Who is the contact where the package will be sent?)<br />
<br />
=== Nevada ===<br />
==== Reno/Sparks ====<br />
Including Northwestern Nevada/ Northeastern California<br />
Status: 1/10<br />
* Tyrell Berry [[Special:Emailuser/Alawatsakima|Contact]]<br />
<br />
== UK ==<br />
<br />
* Stroller (Milton Keynes, can travel) <br />mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk 01908 663 513. <br />Thinks that breaking the UK up into regions - at least outside London - is silly. There are unlikely to be 10 people in $your_town who want a Freerunner, so some posting of Freerunners will surely be required; see [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Oxford the talk page]. This is the same cost anywhere in the UK.<br />
<br />
=== Scotland ===<br />
==== Edinburgh ====<br />
Status : 4/10<br />
<br />
* Joe Wells (Edinburgh) [http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~jbw/ Web] (The Wiki's e-mail feature (those URLs with “Special:Emailuser” in them) do not seem to be working. I tried contacting Dave Ball and Stuart MacKinnon that way and got no reply. Later, Stuart (who I reached by writing a message here) told me he never got the e-mail. So the Wiki's e-mail feature might be broken. So please contact me by going to my web page and using my e-mail address listed there. Stuart and George have been in contact with me by e-mail. I am happy to put more people in Scotland in touch if you send me e-mail.)<br />
* Dave Ball (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Daveb Contact]<br />
* Stuart MacKinnon(Livingston) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/hoagster Contact]<br />
* george Maistros (Edinburgh) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mordilo_k Contact]<br />
<br />
==== Glasgow ====<br />
Status : 3/10<br />
<br />
* Kyle Gordon [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kylegordon Contact]<br />
* Sean Anderson [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Moniker42 Contact]<br />
* Kenny Duffus [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Sealne Contact]<br />
<br />
=== England ===<br />
<br />
==== Hampshire ====<br />
<br />
Status: 16/20 at 2008-05-24<br />
<br />
http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FreerunnerBulkBuy<br />
<br />
Willing to re-ship within the UK.<br />
<br />
(Sorry, we set up the page before we knew about this one)<br />
<br />
==== London ====<br />
<br />
Status : 15/10<br />
<br />
* Juergen Schinker <br /> mailto:ba1020@homie.homelinux.net<br />
* aled <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/aled Contact]<br />
* Robert Piasek (actually in Southampton)<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Queen6 Contact]<br />
* Tom Scholl (Cambridge, travel to London now and then anyway so could pick up) <br /> [mailto:thomasscholl@gmail.com]<br />
* Weiss (Cambridge, could collect from London) <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Weiss Contact]<br />
* Neil Bentley (in Wiltshire) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Ohnez Contact]<br />
* rhn x 2 <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/rhn Contact]<br />
* Tim Coggins<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Contact]<br />
* Michele Mattioni (I'm based in Cambridge too, but if Tom can go to London I can grab the phone in Cambridge) <br />[mailto:mattions@gmail.com]<br />
* '''Group Buyer''' Ben F-W (Fulham, London) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/benfw Contact]<br />
* T. Chan (Cambridge, vaguely knows Weiss) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/TC Contact]<br />
* Rob Paulson (Derby, but will be visiting London in July) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Myfanwy Contact]<br />
* Mario <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Spirer Contact]<br />
* David Pottage (actually in Reading)<br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/chrestomanci Contact]<br />
<br />
==== West Midlands ====<br />
Status : 3/10<br />
<br />
* Mo Abrahams (Walsall) <br /> mailto:moabrahams@dashavoo.com<br />
* Jonathan Spooner (Walsall)<br />
* E. Lucretiu (Stafford) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/lucretiu Contact]<br />
<br />
== Latvia ==<br />
=== Riga ===<br />
==== Riga ====<br />
Status : 2/10<br />
* Ilya <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/VRGhost Contact]<br />
* Deniss [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Druidegrey Contact]<br />
<br />
== Singapore ==<br />
Status : 3/10<br />
* Wee Kiam Peng [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Jipi Contact]<br />
* Chen Ruo Fei [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Crf Contact]<br />
* Moritz Haeberle [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Morid Contact]<br />
<br />
== Israel==<br />
Status : 3/10<br />
* Ofer Herman <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/oferhe Contact]<br />
* [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Talba Talba]<br />
* Dan <br /> [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Da-x Contact]<br />
<br />
== Czech Republic ==<br />
<div style="text-align: center;"><br />
Koordinátorem objednávání je Martin Šenkeřík [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]<br />
</div><br />
=== Aktuálně ===<br />
'''Odeslal jsem všem ze seznamu mail s informacemi k odeslání peněz. Pokud náhodou někomu mail nedorazil, urychleně se mi ozvěte, ať se nemusí moc čekat. Mohlo se stát, že jsem v tom množství někoho nechtěně vynechal...'''<br />
*'''26.6. - '''V pondělí porovnám výpis z účtu se seznamem zájemců tady na wiki a od koho tam nebudou peníze budu ho ještě pro jistotu kontaktovat. Pokud se ukáže, že všechno dorazilo tak jak mělo, odešlu peníze Pulsterovi.<br />
Na to jsem se ptal v České Spořitelně, a převod více než 200 000Kč je nutné provést v bance, za co si vyberou 200Kč poplatek, plus 1% z částky za zahraniční převod v EUR, avšak maximálně 1500Kč - což je náš případ, plus ještě poplatky Německé banky protože všechny poplatky půjdou na vrub odesílatele (snad to nebude moc). Tyhle poplatky uhradím z toho, co jsem připočítal k ceně telefonu.<br />
<br />
''A je to tu!! Pulster.de nejenom potvrdil cenu, ale také oznámil, že už má telefony skladem (ne však zatím k veřejnému prodeji, ale nám je připravený je odeslat).''<br />
<br />
=== Základní informace ===<br />
Jedná se o hromadnou objednávku [[Neo_FreeRunner|Neo FreeRunner]] ([[Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware|hardware]] - GSM, GPS, WiFi, CPU 400MHz, ...; software - [http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/freerunner1.4.swf náhled na připravovanou Qtopii]) do České republiky.<br />
Cena 299€.<br />
<br />
Protože se množí na to dotazy, vypíšu co je součástí dodávky a co ne:<br />
*Obdržíme:[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:GTA02ALL.png]<br />
** FreeRunner ;-)<br />
** stylus (pravděpodobně ten s laserem aspol...)<br />
** adaptér<br />
** USB kabel<br />
** 512MB SD card<br />
<br />
*Neobdržíme (možno přiobjednat):<br />
** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/d__ompouch__OpenMoko_Freerunner_Pouch786.htm obal] (19€) - navíc 500Kč<br />
** [http://www.pulster.de/engl/index.html?d__omheadset__OpenMoko_Headset785.htm headset] (9€) - navíc 250Kč<br />
<br />
Omlouvám se těm, kteří by ještě chtěli přiobjednat některé z příslušenství a už odeslali peníze. Bude bohužel potřeba v případě zájmu odeslat ještě navíc sumu za příslušenství. ''Pokud by byl malý zájem, mohl bych to zaplatit ze zálohy a případný nedoplatek vybrat v hotovosti (platí bohužel jen pro Brno a Zlín).''<br />
<br />
=== Postup registrace a objednání ===<br />
<center>'''Platí pro obě větve!'''</center><br />
Tak jsme na kroku 3!<br />
# Registraci provedete zápisem svého jména a kontaktu do patřičné větve odpovídající místu vašeho osobního převzítí telefonu. Můžete nabídnout distribuci do míst, které ještě nikdo neposkytuje.<br />
# stanovena lehce nadhodnocená částka: 7500Kč za telefon, s debug boardem na 10000Kč na bezpečné pokrytí očekávaných i neočekávaných výdajů spojených s objednávkou<br />
# '''každý zájemce odešle tuto sumu na účet Martina Šenkeříka, identifikuje se svým jménem a příjmením ve zprávě příjemci'''<br />
# jakmile budou peníze nashromážděny, provedu objednávku tolika telefonů, kolik zájemců mi zašle peníze<br />
# po obdržení balíku s telefony se vypočte finální částka za telefon, a případný přeplatek bude vrácen každému osobně při převzetí telefonu (lokální distributoři samozřejmě obdrží patřičný počet telefonů a peněz, aby mohly být předány dále)<br />
# všem se dítko šťastně dopraví do rukou<br />
<br />
*[[Talk:GroupSales#Diskuze | Diskuse]]<br />
*[[Talk:GroupSales#Dopl.C5.88uj.C3.ADc.C3.AD_informace | Doplňující informace]]<br />
<br />
=== Brno ===<br />
<br />
==== Distribuční schéma ====<br />
<br />
'''[n]''' FreeRunner<br />
'''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)<br />
'''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč<br />
'''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč<br />
''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více<br />
voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''<br />
<br />
<center>'''<font size="3" color="green">Status : 23</font>'''</center><br />
<br />
'' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''<br />
<br />
*'''Martin Šenkeřík''' - [[User:Ohin | Kontakty na mě]]<br />
**'''<span style="color: blue">Brno</span>''':<br />
***'''€ Radek Bartoň''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Blackhex|Contact]]<br />
****'''<span style="color: blue">Frýdek-Místek</span>''':<br />
*****-<br />
***'''€ Pavel Erben''' - [[User:Erby|Kontakt]]<br />
***'''Radek Machulka''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Werty|Contact]]<br />
***'''€ Aleš Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Setr|Contact]]<br />
***'''€ Jozef Mlich [2, 1D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/joejoe|Contact]]<br />
***'''Martin Faltičko''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MafRaf|Contact]]<br />
***'''€ Karel Volný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/kavol|Contact]]<br />
***'''€ Martin Nagy [1, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/mnagy|Contact]]<br />
****'''<span style="color: blue">Bratislava</span>''':<br />
*****'''František Horínek''' - [[Special:Emailuser/PipBoy2000|Contact]]<br />
*****'''Martin Vyšný''' - [mailto:vysny@baka.sk Contact]<br />
*****'''Tomáš Sirný''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Junckritter|Contact]]<br />
*****'''€ Ján Janech''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Janik|Contact]]<br />
*****'''Ivan Šeďo [1, 1D, 3H, 1O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/ikoframe|Contact]]<br />
******'''<span style="color: blue">SK/Žilina</span>''':<br />
******'''<span style="color: blue">SK/Piešťany</span>''':<br />
***'''€ Tom Varga [H, O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Varg|Contact]]<br />
***'''€ Petr Ondo [2]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Votik|Contact]]<br />
***'''€ Pavel Krátký [1, 1H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/MrBobby|Contact]]<br />
**'''<span style="color: blue">Zlín</span>''':<br />
***'''Martin Holec''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Martix|Contact]]<br />
***'''€ Pavel Kovář''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Fox|Contact]]<br />
****'''<span style="color: blue">Ostrava</span>''':<br />
*****'''€ Marian Krucina [D,H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/oak|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Praha ===<br />
<br />
==== Distribuční schéma ====<br />
'''Vzhledem ke jednodušší distribuci půjde balíček do Brna a odtud jej převeze Tomáš Varga.'''<br />
<br />
'''[n]''' FreeRunner<br />
'''[nD]''' [[Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3|debug board]] 99€ - 2500Kč (n počet kusů, bez n 1 kus)<br />
'''[nH]''' headset, 9€ - 250Kč<br />
'''[nO]''' obal, 19€ - 500Kč<br />
''Jednotlivé volby píšeme za jméno v [] a více<br />
voleb oddělujeme čárkou. n je počet kusů, bez n 1 kus''<br />
<br />
<center>'''<font size="3">Status : 16</font>'''</center><br />
<br />
'' Značku'' ''' € ''' ''před jména přidávám v okamžiku, když od daného člověka dorazí peníze na můj účet. ''<br />
<br />
*'''€ Jan Mareš [2,2H]''' - [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:iVir Contact]<br />
**'''<span style="color: blue">Praha</span>''':<br />
***'''€ Martin Dvořák''' - [[Special:Emailuser/masca|Contact]]<br />
***'''€ Michal Pěnka [H]''' - [http://michal.penka.name/kontakt Contact]<br />
***'''Jan Černý [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/xcerj01|Contact]]<br />
****'''<span style="color: blue">Kolín</span>''':<br />
***'''Dag Rauer''' - [[Special:Emailuser/drag|Contact]]<br />
***'''€ Miloslav Machotka [O]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Machy|Contact]]<br />
***'''€ David Kozub [D]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Zub|Contact]] (Kdyby z Prahy seslo, volim Zlin jako fallback.)<br />
***'''€ Milan Vontorčík [HO]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Mvontorcik|Contact]]<br />
***'''Vojtěch Vozáb''' - [mailto:vojtav@centrum.cz Contact]<br />
***'''€ Zdeněk Trávníček [D]''' - [[User:V154c1|Contact]] (Klidne si zajedu i jinam po republice)<br />
***'''€ Milan Šedý [2]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/Wortyr|Contact]]<br />
***''' Martin Hinner''' - [mailto:martin@hinner.info Contact]<br />
**'''<span style="color: blue">Písek</span>''':<br />
***(€)''' Luboš Podrázský [H]''' - [[Special:Emailuser/zsman|Contact]]<br />
***''' Petr Marvan''' - [mailto:petr.marvan1@seznam.cz Contact]<br />
<br />
== Slovak Republic ==<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Czech_Republic Spojeno s Czech Republic]<br />
<br />
== Croatia ==<br />
Status : 12/10<br />
* w00t - [[Special:Emailuser/W00t|Contact]]<br />
* matija - [[Special:Emailuser/Matija.z|Contact]]<br />
* valajbeg - [[Special:Emailuser/valajbeg|Contact]]<br />
* kost - [[Special:Emailuser/kost|Contact]]<br />
* mnalis - [[Special:Emailuser/mnalis|Contact]]<br />
* tcavrag - [[Special:Emailuser/tcavrag|Contact]]<br />
* slavus - [[Special:Emailuser/slavus|Contact]]<br />
* bsevo - [[Special:Emailuser/bsevo|Contact]]<br />
* amd64 - [[Special:Emailuser/SilverSpace|Contact]]<br />
* v-v - [[Special:Emailuser/v-v|Contact]]<br />
* Lovro - [[Special:Emailuser/Lovro|Contact]]<br />
* Zlotvor - [[Special:Emailuser/zlotvor|Contact]]<br />
(maybe we should make one group for bosnia, croatia & serbia together?) [http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php/Talk:GroupSales#Croatia the talk page]<br />
<br />
== Russia ==<br />
=== Moscow ===<br />
Status : 11/20<br />
* 1x sinister - [[Special:Emailuser/sinister|Contact]]<br />
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) shallburn - [[Special:Emailuser/shallburn|Contact]]<br />
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) vadson - [[Special:Emailuser/vadson|Contact]]<br />
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Tallex - [[Special:Emailuser/Tallex|Contact]] <br />
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) mex3 - [[Special:Emailuser/mex3|Contact]]<br />
* 1x Alexxy (with debug board if possible) - [[Special:Emailuser/Alexxy|Contact]] (Actual location - Saint-Petersburg)<br />
* 1x pva (with debug board if possible) - [[Special:Emailuser/Pva|Contact]] (Moscow if matters)<br />
* 2x (1x [[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced + 1x Base) cbou (Moscow) - [[Special:Emailuser/cbou|Contact]]<br />
* 1x (Base) Buffet - [[Special:Emailuser/Buffet|Contact]]<br />
* 1x homeboy - [[Special:Emailuser/homeboy|Contact]]<br />
<br />
=== Saint-Petersburg ===<br />
Status : 7/10<br />
* 2x Nikolay Kasatkin - [[Special:Emailuser/Kainspb|Contact]]<br />
[[Category:Community]]<br />
* 1x (3x?) ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - phone+board) cracatau - [[Special:Emailuser/cracatau|Contact]]<br />
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - phone+board) alexei379 - [[Special:Emailuser/alexei379|Contact]]<br />
* 3x krigstask - [[Special:Emailuser/krigstask|Contact]]<br />
<br />
== Belarus ==<br />
=== Minsk ===<br />
Status : 1/10<br />
* 1x ([[Image:MokoBox.jpg]] - advanced) Const - [[Special:Emailuser/Const|Contact]]<br />
[[Category:Community]]<br />
<br />
== Taiwan ==<br />
=== Taipei ===<br />
Status : 3/10<br />
<br />
* Cruz [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/cruz Contact]<br />
* mkl23 @ShinChu [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/mkl23 Contact]<br />
* htchien [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/htchien Contact]<br />
<br />
== Bahrain ==<br />
Status : 3/10<br />
<br />
* Salman [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/smhar Contact]</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_supported_devices/esOpenmoko supported devices/es2008-06-16T02:09:45Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{Hdsupport}}<br />
[[Openmoko]] significa que puede ser usado en varios dispositivos.<br />
Las siguientes plataformas están soportadas parcialmente.<br />
<br />
* [[Neo1973]] Es la plataforma de referencia.<br />
<br />
* Treo 650 [http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2007/07/01/openmoko-on-a-treo-650/ up and limping.]<br />
<br />
* Palm TX [http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9371/openmoko-running-on-a-palm-tx/ with some issues].También puede ver[http://hackndev.com/node/701 acá]<br />
<br />
* Motorola E680i [http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10763 similar.]<br />
<br />
* Motorola A780 [http://www.vanille-media.de/images/openmoko-on-a780.jpg OM2007.2]<br />
<br />
* Motorola A1200E [http://blog.myspace.cn/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=1303227936&blogID=304760192 OpenMoko 2007.2]<br />
<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Universal HTC Universal] dialer works [http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html referencia:linuxtogo] [http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus status:handhelds.org]<br />
<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Magician HTC Magician] dialer works [http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/index.html code:linuxtogo] [http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician status:handhelds.org]<br />
<br />
* [http://www.etencorp.com/products/Communication/G500.php E-TEN G500] dialler works but some [http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/9306 screen res issues as yet]<br />
<br />
* HP iPAQ hx4700 - [http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/openmoko-running-on-an-ipaq details]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== También ver ==<br />
<br />
* You can run OpenMoko applications on your [[How_to_run_OpenMoko_Apps_on_PC | linux PC]]<br />
<br />
* [[Other OSes]]<br />
{{Languages|OpenMoko-supported hardware}}<br />
[[Category:Hardware ]]<br />
[[Category:Hardware Support| ]]<br />
[[Category:Documentation]]</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_supported_devices/esOpenmoko supported devices/es2008-06-16T02:09:07Z<p>Arw: New page: {{Hdsupport}} Openmoko significa que puede ser usado en varios dispositivos. Las siguientes plataformas son soportadas parcialmente. * Neo1973 Es la plataforma de referencia. * T...</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Hdsupport}}<br />
[[Openmoko]] significa que puede ser usado en varios dispositivos. Las siguientes plataformas son soportadas parcialmente.<br />
<br />
* [[Neo1973]] Es la plataforma de referencia.<br />
<br />
* Treo 650 [http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2007/07/01/openmoko-on-a-treo-650/ up and limping.]<br />
<br />
* Palm TX [http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9371/openmoko-running-on-a-palm-tx/ with some issues].También puede ver[http://hackndev.com/node/701 acá]<br />
<br />
* Motorola E680i [http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10763 similar.]<br />
<br />
* Motorola A780 [http://www.vanille-media.de/images/openmoko-on-a780.jpg OM2007.2]<br />
<br />
* Motorola A1200E [http://blog.myspace.cn/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=1303227936&blogID=304760192 OpenMoko 2007.2]<br />
<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Universal HTC Universal] dialer works [http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html referencia:linuxtogo] [http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus status:handhelds.org]<br />
<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Magician HTC Magician] dialer works [http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/index.html code:linuxtogo] [http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician status:handhelds.org]<br />
<br />
* [http://www.etencorp.com/products/Communication/G500.php E-TEN G500] dialler works but some [http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/9306 screen res issues as yet]<br />
<br />
* HP iPAQ hx4700 - [http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/openmoko-running-on-an-ipaq details]<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== También ver ==<br />
<br />
* You can run OpenMoko applications on your [[How_to_run_OpenMoko_Apps_on_PC | linux PC]]<br />
<br />
* [[Other OSes]]<br />
{{Languages|OpenMoko-supported hardware}}<br />
[[Category:Hardware ]]<br />
[[Category:Hardware Support| ]]<br />
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En este apartado encontrará información sobre la tarjeta de entrenamiento Neo1973 en su segunda versión.La tarjeta de entrenamiento -o tarjeta de desarrollo- sólo está incluída en la versión para desarrolladores del Neo1973<br />
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[[Image:Debugboard v2 diagram.png|left|500px|Arquitectura]]<br />
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[[Image:Neo1973 debugboard v2 top annotated.jpg|left|500px|Circuito impreso]]<br />
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== Visión general ==<br />
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La [[Debug Board | Tarjeta de desarrollo]] contiene:<br />
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* [[Debug Board#USB Hub | USB Hub]]<br />
* [[Debug Board#JTAG using FT2232 | JTAG sobre el chip FT2232]]<br />
* [[Debug Board#Serial Port |Puerto serial]]<br />
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=== Esquemas o diagramas electrónicos ===<br />
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Los diagramas pertenecientes al circuito impreso se pueden encontrar en: http://people.openmoko.org/laforge/doc/hardware/neo1973_debug_board/neo1973_debugboard_v2_schematics.pdf<br />
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===''Hub'' USB ===<br />
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Sistema USB <br />
* Capacidad de usarse como origen de datos -maestro o hub- cuando se conecta al portátil.<br />
* attaches to the FT2232D for JTAG and serial console on downstream port 1<br />
* attaches to USB-A connectors using downstream ports 2 and 3<br />
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Como ''hub'' USB se usa el circuito integrado TUSB2046B.<br />
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Con un sólo cable USB se puede usar el ''hub'' para tener acceso al teléfono,al JTAG y al puerto serial de forma simultánea. También se puede usar como puerto de recarga de la pila (de carga lenta a 100mA ), usando el puerto como esclavo.<br />
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Es recomendable no usar el ''hub'' USB si posee puertos USB libres de su computador para conectar la tarjeta de desarrollo. Esto permite al Neo1973 recargarse a una tasa de 500mA/h,permitiendo así conectar y desconectar la tarjeta de desarrollo sin afectar al teléfono Neo1973.<br />
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=== JTAG usando el circuito integrado FT2232 ===<br />
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Básicamente se ha integrado el adaptador USB y el JTAG de forma similar como lo hace[Amontec JTAGkey-tiny].La referencia usada para el diseño se puede encontrar en: (Agradecemos a Joern, por su colaboración)<br />
http://www.oocdlink.com<br />
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JTAG provee todas las carácteristicas necesarias para la depuración. La velocidad es 150 veces mayor a[[wiggler]]<br />
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El puerto JTAG se conecta con:<br />
* El teléfono (a través del cable-flex)<br />
* Conector de viente (20) terminales usando el puerto ARM-JTAG. <br />
** Permite al usuario conectar el adaptador JTAG a otros dispositidos basados sobre el sistema arm.<br />
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=== Puerto serial ===<br />
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Instead of replicating a true RS232 port, we wanted to use a USB serial converter chip,<br />
such as the FT232 or the PL2303. <br />
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As it turns out, we can even use the second port of the FT2232 simultaneously with the JTAG. So no extra FT232 or PL2303 is required.<br />
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==== Puerto serial tres estados ====<br />
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The serial port needs a tri-state driver, since it is both connected to the GSM modem AND to the debug board. We drive the tri-state driver by an inverted GSM_EN signal (pin 7 on FPC connector).<br />
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== Instrucciones de uso ==<br />
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=== Condiciones iniciales ===<br />
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==== EEPROM FT2232D ====<br />
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Please see [[Neo1973 Debug Board v2/EEPROM]] if you have an "early adopter" board with USB ID 0403:0610. If your board shows up as USB ID 1457:5118 then you can ignore this step.<br />
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==== Controladores -drivers- ====<br />
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===== libftdi =====<br />
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Please make sure you have libftdi-0.8 or later. Earlier versions are known to cause problems. This should not be an issue if you are using statically-linked binaries.<br />
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===== módulo ftdi_sio =====<br />
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This module must be loaded with parameters that identify the debug board:<br />
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rmmod ftdi_sio<br />
modprobe ftdi_sio vendor=0x1457 product=0x5118<br />
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or the equivalent in your modules.conf<br />
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====== Reglas para udev ======<br />
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Please install the rules from http://people.openmoko.org/laforge/misc/debug_board_v2/udev_rules/<br />
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====== Controlador para Driver ======<br />
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Please use the driver from http://people.openmoko.org/laforge/misc/debug_board_v2/windows_drivers/<br />
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==== Aplicaciones ====<br />
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===== openocd =====<br />
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[[openocd]] is required. It is recommended to use a statically-linked binary produced by the OpenMoko build system. Other versions may give "unrecognized command" errors while parsing the configuration file.<br />
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====== openocd.cfg ======<br />
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Openocd requires a configuration file in the directory from which you run the application. A typical example is shown below:<br />
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telnet_port 4444<br />
gdb_port 3333<br />
interface ft2232<br />
jtag_speed 0<br />
ft2232_vid_pid 0x1457 0x5118<br />
ft2232_layout "jtagkey"<br />
reset_config trst_and_srst<br />
jtag_device 4 0x1 0xf 0xe<br />
daemon_startup attach<br />
target arm920t little reset_run 0 arm920t<br />
working_area 0 0x200000 0x4000 backup<br />
run_and_halt_time 0 5000<br />
ft2232_device_desc "Debug Board for Neo1973"<br />
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===== dfu-util =====<br />
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[[dfu-util]] is used to write images to the NAND flash once you have a functional u-boot. It is recommended to use a statically-linked binary produced by the OpenMoko build system.<br />
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=== Conexión ===<br />
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Refer to [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2]]. The recommended connection sequence is:<br />
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* Unplug both USB cables<br />
* Remove the Neo1973 battery<br />
* Connect the FPC between the Neo1973 and the debug board<br />
* Replace the Neo1973 battery<br />
* Plug the Neo1973 USB cable into your PC<br />
* If the Neo1973 does not turn on automatically at this point, hold the power button for 5 seconds<br />
* Plug the debug-board USB cable into your PC<br />
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A Neo1973 with a working u-boot should power on when its USB cable is plugged in, but a "bricked" one will not. Note that there will be no visible feedback from the power-button press on a bricked device.<br />
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==== Terminales ====<br />
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The Debug Board v2 may be used for other embedded projects. It provides the following connectors:<br />
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* J1 - is a regular 20 pin ARM JTAG at 3.3V level with 5V tolerance<br />
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* J10 - is a 3.3V serial connected to portB of the FTDI2232D<br />
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pin name<br />
1 TXD <br />
2 RXD<br />
3 RTS<br />
4 CTS<br />
5 DSR<br />
6 DTR<br />
7 DCD<br />
8 RI<br />
9 GND<br />
10 VCC (3.3V)<br />
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=== Actually using it ===<br />
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==== Sobre Linux ====<br />
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===== Puerto serial =====<br />
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The Linux kernel of your host system will create virtual serial devices called '''/dev/ttyUSBx''' where 'x' is a sequentially assigned number. If you don't have any other USB serial converters attached to your machine, the device name will be '''/dev/ttyUSB1''' for the serial port. A '''/dev/ttyUSB0''' will also be created initially, but will disappear once [[openocd]] connects to the JTAG port.<br />
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You can use your favourite terminal emulator (screen, minicom, cu, zc, ...) just like for any other/real serial port. The baud rate should be set to 115200. You may use gdb as well (eg. target remote /dev/ttya).<br />
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The /dev/ttyUSB1 device node will be removed if the debug-board USB cable is unplugged. You should exit your terminal program before unplugging the cable, and then re-run it after the cable is plugged back in.<br />
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'''Nota'''<br />
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After Neo's boot, this last line will be displayed at the console:<br />
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gta01-pm-gsm gta01-pm-gsm.0: powering up GSM, thus disconnecting serial console<br />
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for reconnecting your serial console, please stop the gsmd daemon from ssh :<br />
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/etc/init.d/gsmd stop<br />
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and respawn getty on ttySAC0. <br />
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For example, if getty is on tty1 (given by: '''ps -aux | grep getty''') then you could type:<br />
cd /dev<br />
mv tty1 tty10<br />
ln -s ttySAC0 tty1<br />
pkill getty<br />
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if kernel messages on the console are too verbose, use klogd or dmesg (e.g. '''klogd -c 4''').<br />
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===== JTAG =====<br />
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Once you have connected the hardware as described above, run "openocd" from the diretory containing its configuration file. You should see output similar to the following:<br />
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linux$ ./openocd<br />
Info: openocd.c:93 main(): Open On-Chip Debugger 1.0 (2007-12-13-14:05) svn:226M<br />
Info: openocd.c:94 main(): $URL: svn://svn.berlios.de/openocd/trunk/src/openocd.c $<br />
Info: jtag.c:1291 jtag_examine_chain(): JTAG device found: 0x0032409d (Manufacturer: 0x04e, Part: 0x0324, Version: 0x0)<br />
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Note that the Neo1973 must be powered on for this step to succeed. Otherwise, you will see:<br />
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Error: jtag.c:1253 jtag_examine_chain(): JTAG communication failure, check connection, JTAG interface, target power etc.<br />
Error: jtag.c:1440 jtag_init(): trying to validate configured JTAG chain anyway...<br />
Error: jtag.c:1346 jtag_validate_chain(): Error validating JTAG scan chain, IR mismatch, scan returned 0x00<br />
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Once openocd is running, open another terminal window and connect to its telnet port:<br />
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linux$ telnet localhost 4444<br />
Trying 127.0.0.1...<br />
Connected to localhost.<br />
Escape character is '^]'.<br />
Open On-Chip Debugger<br />
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You may now reset the device, set breakpoints, upload images, etc. <br />
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===== Unbricking Procedure =====<br />
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Refer to [[Neo1973 Debug Board v2/Unbricking]] for a manual procedure to re-flash a "bricked" phone (one with a damaged u-boot or environment, where the normal [[Flashing_openmoko]] update procedure cannot be used). <br />
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===== Further Reading =====<br />
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The following Wiki pages contain useful information about what can be done with the debug board and the u-boot console. Note, however, that some of the information applies to earlier versions of the product and is not suitable for use with purchased GTA01Bv4 phones.<br />
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- [[OpenOCD#OpenOCD_and_Debug_Board]]<br />
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- [[Bootloader#Using_JTAG_to_boot_from_RAM]]<br />
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- [[Devirginator]]<br />
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- [[NAND_bad_blocks]]<br />
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== History ==<br />
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We previously had [[Neo1973 Debug Board v1]] (inherited from some weird engineers who must have seen Brazil too often).<br />
Version 1 was never shipped to phase-0 or phase-1, and not sold to anyone.<br />
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=== Cambios de la primera versión -v1- a la segunda versión -v2- ===<br />
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* get rid of ethernet<br />
** we don't need it, and<br />
** we especially don't want a 40pin parallel 66MHz bus going between two pcb's<br />
* get rid of 7-segment LED displays<br />
** not really needed. We have a serial port<br />
** could be replaced by one or two GPIO LEDs<br />
* get rid of built-in [[wiggler]]<br />
** nobody has a parallel port on the laptop these days<br />
* get rid of li-ion battery (including charger)<br />
** the device can be fully usb powered by the laptop<br />
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[[Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]]</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manuals/Neo_1973/esManuals/Neo 1973/es2008-06-14T18:17:40Z<p>Arw: /* Grabando la memoria Flash del Neo1973 GTA01Bv4 */</p>
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<div>Guía de primeros pasos para los que han recibido recientemente su primer hardware Neo1973<br />
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== Hardware ==<br />
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=== Poniendo la batería ===<br />
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Retirar la tapa trasera (ver el primer paso de [[Disassembling Neo1973]]).<br />
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=== Encendiendo el teléfono ===<br />
[[Image:Neo1973_uboot_splash.jpg|200px|thumb|bootloader splash screen]]<br />
Pulsando el botón de encendido ''power'' (dependiendo de la versión del programa de arranque ([[u-boot]]) tienes que pulsar durante >= 5 segundos) debería activarse el teléfono primeramente con el programa de arranque, después iniciar el núcleo, y después mostrarse con X/OpenMoko.<br />
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Una vez pulsado el botón de encendido ''power'' durante el tiempo necesario, el vibrador se accionará durante un corto espacio de tiempo y la luz del fondo de la pantalla se encenderá. Ya podrá soltar el botón de encendido y ver como arranca el teléfono.<br />
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Si la batería no tiene carga suficiente, el teléfono no se encenderá, a no ser que el calbe usb esté conectado.<br />
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=== Grabando la memoria Flash del Neo1973 GTA01Bv4 ===<br />
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Los dispositivos GTA01Bv4 que se están enviando actualmente no arrancan el sistema. Es necesario grabar la memoria Flash del teléfono con el último núcleo y soportar el sistema de ficheros ("rootfs") antes de que el teléfono consiga iniciarse correctamente.<br />
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=== Apagando el teléfono ===<br />
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==== Mientras se está arrancando, o si el teléfono se colgó ====<br />
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Si presiona el botón de encendido ''power'' durante 9 segundos, el teléfono se apagará. Se dará cuenta porque el luz de fondo se apagará.<br />
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==== Mientras se ejecuta un sistema linux completo en modo usuario ====<br />
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En este modo, una pulsación de 5 segundos en el botón de encendido será suficiente. Después de esto, el proceso ''init'' tendrá el control para una apagado correcto del teléfono, que llevará unos 20 segundos extra. El servidor X se cerrará, debería reaparecer una pantalla parecida a la consola, y finalmente debería apagarse como un PC normal con Linux.<br />
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=== Carga de batería ===<br />
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El [[Neo1973]] permite dos modos de carga: Un modo de carga de 100mA (llamado percarga) y un 500mA (llamado cargar rápida). La carga se realiza siempre a traves del conector USB. Puede usar un cable USB-A a USB-mini-B para conectar el teléfono a cualquier fuente USB.<br />
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==== Mientras está en u-boot ====<br />
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Mientras está en modo ''u-boot'', el teléfono solo carga con 100mA por defecto. (Esto podría cambiar en una de las revisiones futuras).<br />
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Sin embargo, usando la consola ''u-boot'' puede activar manualmente la carga rápida. Ver [[U-boot#Battery_charger_related]] para más información.<br />
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==== Mientras está en Linux ====<br />
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Tan pronto como el teléfono es conectado con el cable USB, se podrá a cargar. Sin embargo, la corriente de carga es de sólo 100mA, demasiado pequeña si quiere operar con el teléfono y cargar al mismo tiempo.<br />
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Si su conexión por puerto USB permite 500mA, entonces configurará al Neo1973 para usar el modo de carga de 500mA. Podrá advertir este hecho por la siguiente línea generada en el registro ''log'' del kernel (/var/log/messages) de tu ordenador que el Neo1973 está conectado:<br />
usb0: full speed config #1: 500 mA, Ethernet Gadget, using CDC Ethernet<br />
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=== Introducir la tarjeta SIM (opcional) ===<br />
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La ranura se encuentra justo debajo de la batería. La capucha donde encaja tiene flechas indicando la manera de empujar para desbloquearla - asegúrese de no abrirla con fuerzar cuando está bloqueada o podría romperse. Inserte la SIM de manera que los bornes hagan contacto y empuje la capucha fírmemente hasta que haga un ''click'', luego bloquéela - en otro caso la tarjeta no será detectada.<br />
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Para comprobar si la tarjeta SIM está insertada correctamente desde Linux, puede mirar los registros ''log'' de ''gsmd'' o seguir las instrucciones detalladas en la página [[Manually using GSM]] y el tema del comando ''AT+CIMI''.<br />
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=== Usando la tarjeta micro-SD ===<br />
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Debería haber recibido una tarjeta de memoria con su teléfono. Podría querer copiar algún fichero mp3 (o mejor todavía, ficheros Ogg Vorbis) en ella para probar la reproducción multimedia.<br />
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Abra el compartimento de la tarjeta SIM (véase arriba) y deslize suavemente la capucha micro-SD hacia los contactos de la batería. Levante la capucha hacia arriba e inserte la tarjeta, con los contactos por delante y hacia la cara lejana de la capucha. Gírela, presione y deslize suavemente hacia el lado contrario de los contactos de la batería para dejarla cerrada.<br />
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La tarjeta debería estar, de forma automática, disponible bajo /media/card en la próxima vez que arranque. Puede comprobarlo y a la vez probar los controladores de sonido reproduciendo un mp3 desde ella. Ver el [[Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem|subsistema de sonido del Neo1973]].<br />
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Un vídeo corto de cómo hacerlo (SIM y tarjeta MicroSD) está disponible en vídeos de Google: http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-8343770443102960945 <br />
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== Acceso a la línea de comandos en el teléfono ==<br />
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=== Usando el emulador de terminal y el teclado en pantalla ===<br />
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Haga ''click'' (usando el puntero) en el icono de flecha arriba-izquierda para mostrar un menú desplegable con "Media", "Configuración", "Utilidades" y "Escritorio". Eliga "Utilidades->Panel->Controlador de entrada", y un icono de teclado aparecerá en la barra superior. Podrá mostrar en pantalla un teclado en cualquier momento seleccionándola.<br />
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En nuevas pantallas, el teclado aparece cuando pulsa el cuadro blanco en la barra superior.<br />
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Desde el escritorio, elija "Tareas activas->rxvt" para ir a una consola ''root''.<br />
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El terminal está en el menú principal en pantallas recientes.<br />
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=== Utilizando emulación Ethernet a través de un cable USB ===<br />
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El estándar Linux Neo1973 [[kernel]] tiene soporte para el aparato "cdc_ether USB", como por ejemplo un implementación estándar de como emular un dispositivo Ethernet a través de USB.<br />
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Así que el kernel está iniciado y ejecutándose, y el teléfono está conectado por USB, podrá acceder a un dispositivo '''usb0''' en el anfitrión.<br />
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El teléfono tendrá la dirección IPv4 192.168.0.202/24. Podrá ejecutar `ifconfig` en el terminal del teléfono para comprobar esto (opcional, compruébelo si no funciona con las instrucciones que siguen).<br />
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Si conecta un cable USB en un equipo ejecutando Linux, verá el módulo de núcleo "cdc_ether" cargado y aparacerá una interfaz de red usb0.<br />
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En el PC anfitrión, debe configurar la interfaz con la dirección 192.168.0.202 usando<br />
# ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0<br />
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Después podrá ser capaz de hacer<br />
# ping 192.168.0.202<br />
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y por último<br />
# ssh root@192.168.0.202<br />
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Una vez pulse 'enter' (sin clave), debería tener en ese momento una acceso como root.<br />
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Ver [[USB_Networking]] para más detalles, donde se incluyen las instrucciones de como configurar ''masquerading'' para que su teléfono puede acceder a internet a través del PC anfitrión.<br />
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=== Usando la tarjeta depuradora/serie/JTAG ===<br />
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Vea [[Debug Board#Usage_Instructions]]<br />
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== Acceso a la consola de arranque ==<br />
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Vea [[u-boot#Using_usbtty_from_Linux]]<br />
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== Reproduciendo sonido ==<br />
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=== Conectar altavoz interno y micrófono en llamadas de teléfono ===<br />
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Si no consigue hacer funcionar el altavoz y micrófono mientras realiza una llamada, entonces necesitará cargar el fichero de configuración para alsa "gsmhandset.state":<br />
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alsactl -f /etc/alsa/gsmhandset.state restore<br />
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Es probable que necesite cargar otro fichero .state para reproducir mp3 o que un auricular bluetooth pueda ver /etc/alsa/.<br />
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== Comandos útiles en linux ==<br />
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=== Suspendiendo ===<br />
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Writing "mem" into ''/sys/power/state'' tells Linux to suspend - it will enter a low power mode where only the GSM and RAM are powered up and the CPU sleeps. It will persist in this state until a wake-up event arrives. Some currently enabled wake-up events are: AUX or POWER key press, USB cable detect.<br />
Escribiendo "mem" en ''/sys/power/state'' le dirá a Linux que se suspenda - entrará en un modo de bajo consumo con solamente GSM y RAM funcionando mientras el microprocesador duerme. Continuará en este estado hasta que suceda un evento que lo active. Algunos eventos de activación son: pulsación de ''AUX'' o ''POWER'', detección de cable USB...<br />
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Si está conectado por ssh, el sshd no responderá cuando el sistema operativo se suspende, y para evitar colgar al cliente ssh, use el comando<br />
# (sleep 1; echo mem > /sys/power/state) & exit<br />
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=== Copia de seguridad inicial ===<br />
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Una vez arrancado su nuevo Neo1973 podría querer hacer una copia de seguridad del contenido de la memoria flash original en su PC, antes de sobreescribir la memoria flash con una imagen personalizada o actualizada. <br />
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{{note|Para desarrolladores de fase 0 únicamente (GTA01Bv4 envíos 0, '''no &gt; 0 '''): Esto es una buena idea porque hay partes en sistema de ficheros raiz que no pueden se distribuidos por internet y sólo se encuentran en la ROM suministrada (ver el controlador [[GPS]]).}}<br />
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Una manera sencilla de realizar la copia de seguridad completa de la memoria flash, sin necesidad de instalar ningún software especial, es con ''netcat'' a través de la red [[USB Networking|USB ethernet]]. Los comandos siguientes son para hacerlo:<br />
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$ netcat -l -p 20000 > mtdblock0<br />
$ netcat -l -p 20000 > mtdblock1<br />
$ netcat -l -p 20000 > mtdblock2<br />
$ netcat -l -p 20000 > mtdblock3<br />
$ netcat -l -p 20000 > mtdblock4<br />
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# cat /dev/mtdblock0 | nc 192.168.0.200 20000<br />
# cat /dev/mtdblock1 | nc 192.168.0.200 20000<br />
# cat /dev/mtdblock2 | nc 192.168.0.200 20000<br />
# cat /dev/mtdblock3 | nc 192.168.0.200 20000<br />
# cat /dev/mtdblock4 | nc 192.168.0.200 20000<br />
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Esto guarda las cinco particiones NAND en ficheros de nombre mtdblock*. Conociendo la distribución de las particiones (el comando ''u-boot'' "mtdparts" o ''dmesg'' en Linux) podrá restaurar la memoria flash completamente.<br />
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=== Dónde continuar ===<br />
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Probablemente quiere continuar con algo del interesante hardware en este dispositivo. Obviamente, puede explorar las aplicaciones disponibles a través de la interfaz de pantalla táctil. Pero para quienes prefieran hacer más cosas básicas desde una línea de comandos, pueden ir a [[Manually_using_GSM | manually use GSM]] o empezar a jugar con el [[GPS]].<br />
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<div>Guía de primeros pasos para los que han recibido recientemente su primer hardware Neo1973<br />
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== Hardware ==<br />
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=== Poniendo la batería ===<br />
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Retirar la tapa trasera (ver el primer paso de [[Disassembling Neo1973]]).<br />
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=== Encendiendo el teléfono ===<br />
[[Image:Neo1973_uboot_splash.jpg|200px|thumb|bootloader splash screen]]<br />
Pulsando el botón de encendido ''power'' (dependiendo de la versión del programa de arranque ([[u-boot]]) tienes que pulsar durante >= 5 segundos) debería activarse el teléfono primeramente con el programa de arranque, después iniciar el núcleo, y después mostrarse con X/OpenMoko.<br />
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Una vez pulsado el botón de encendido ''power'' durante el tiempo necesario, el vibrador se accionará durante un corto espacio de tiempo y la luz del fondo de la pantalla se encenderá. Ya podrá soltar el botón de encendido y ver como arranca el teléfono.<br />
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Si la batería no tiene carga suficiente, el teléfono no se encenderá, a no ser que el calbe usb esté conectado.<br />
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=== Grabando la memoria Flash del Neo1973 GTA01Bv4 ===<br />
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Los dispositivos GTA01Bv4 que se están enviando actualmente no arrancan el sistema. Es necesario grabar la memoria Flash del teléfono con el último núcleo y soportar el sistema de ficheros ("rootfs") antes de que el teléfono consiga arrancar iniciarse correctamente.<br />
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=== Apagando el teléfono ===<br />
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==== Mientras se está arrancando, o si el teléfono se colgó ====<br />
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Si presiona el botón de encendido ''power'' durante 9 segundos, el teléfono se apagará. Se dará cuenta porque el luz de fondo se apagará.<br />
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==== Mientras se ejecuta un sistema linux completo en modo usuario ====<br />
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En este modo, una pulsación de 5 segundos en el botón de encendido será suficiente. Después de esto, el proceso ''init'' tendrá el control para una apagado correcto del teléfono, que llevará unos 20 segundos extra. El servidor X se cerrará, debería reaparecer una pantalla parecida a la consola, y finalmente debería apagarse como un PC normal con Linux.<br />
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=== Carga de batería ===<br />
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El [[Neo1973]] permite dos modos de carga: Un modo de carga de 100mA (llamado percarga) y un 500mA (llamado cargar rápida). La carga se realiza siempre a traves del conector USB. Puede usar un cable USB-A a USB-mini-B para conectar el teléfono a cualquier fuente USB.<br />
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==== Mientras está en u-boot ====<br />
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Mientras está en modo ''u-boot'', el teléfono solo carga con 100mA por defecto. (Esto podría cambiar en una de las revisiones futuras).<br />
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Sin embargo, usando la consola ''u-boot'' puede activar manualmente la carga rápida. Ver [[U-boot#Battery_charger_related]] para más información.<br />
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==== Mientras está en Linux ====<br />
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Tan pronto como el teléfono es conectado con el cable USB, se podrá a cargar. Sin embargo, la corriente de carga es de sólo 100mA, demasiado pequeña si quiere operar con el teléfono y cargar al mismo tiempo.<br />
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Si su conexión por puerto USB permite 500mA, entonces configurará al Neo1973 para usar el modo de carga de 500mA. Podrá advertir este hecho por la siguiente línea generada en el registro ''log'' del kernel (/var/log/messages) de tu ordenador que el Neo1973 está conectado:<br />
usb0: full speed config #1: 500 mA, Ethernet Gadget, using CDC Ethernet<br />
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=== Introducir la tarjeta SIM (opcional) ===<br />
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La ranura se encuentra justo debajo de la batería. La capucha donde encaja tiene flechas indicando la manera de empujar para desbloquearla - asegúrese de no abrirla con fuerzar cuando está bloqueada o podría romperse. Inserte la SIM de manera que los bornes hagan contacto y empuje la capucha fírmemente hasta que haga un ''click'', luego bloquéela - en otro caso la tarjeta no será detectada.<br />
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Para comprobar si la tarjeta SIM está insertada correctamente desde Linux, puede mirar los registros ''log'' de ''gsmd'' o seguir las instrucciones detalladas en la página [[Manually using GSM]] y el tema del comando ''AT+CIMI''.<br />
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=== Usando la tarjeta micro-SD ===<br />
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Debería haber recibido una tarjeta de memoria con su teléfono. Podría querer copiar algún fichero mp3 (o mejor todavía, ficheros Ogg Vorbis) en ella para probar la reproducción multimedia.<br />
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Abra el compartimento de la tarjeta SIM (véase arriba) y deslize suavemente la capucha micro-SD hacia los contactos de la batería. Levante la capucha hacia arriba e inserte la tarjeta, con los contactos por delante y hacia la cara lejana de la capucha. Gírela, presione y deslize suavemente hacia el lado contrario de los contactos de la batería para dejarla cerrada.<br />
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La tarjeta debería estar, de forma automática, disponible bajo /media/card en la próxima vez que arranque. Puede comprobarlo y a la vez probar los controladores de sonido reproduciendo un mp3 desde ella. Ver el [[Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem|subsistema de sonido del Neo1973]].<br />
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Un vídeo corto de cómo hacerlo (SIM y tarjeta MicroSD) está disponible en vídeos de Google: http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-8343770443102960945 <br />
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== Acceso a la línea de comandos en el teléfono ==<br />
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=== Usando el emulador de terminal y el teclado en pantalla ===<br />
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Haga ''click'' (usando el puntero) en el icono de flecha arriba-izquierda para mostrar un menú desplegable con "Media", "Configuración", "Utilidades" y "Escritorio". Eliga "Utilidades->Panel->Controlador de entrada", y un icono de teclado aparecerá en la barra superior. Podrá mostrar en pantalla un teclado en cualquier momento seleccionándola.<br />
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En nuevas pantallas, el teclado aparece cuando pulsa el cuadro blanco en la barra superior.<br />
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Desde el escritorio, elija "Tareas activas->rxvt" para ir a una consola ''root''.<br />
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El terminal está en el menú principal en pantallas recientes.<br />
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=== Utilizando emulación Ethernet a través de un cable USB ===<br />
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El estándar Linux Neo1973 [[kernel]] tiene soporte para el aparato "cdc_ether USB", como por ejemplo un implementación estándar de como emular un dispositivo Ethernet a través de USB.<br />
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Así que el kernel está iniciado y ejecutándose, y el teléfono está conectado por USB, podrá acceder a un dispositivo '''usb0''' en el anfitrión.<br />
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El teléfono tendrá la dirección IPv4 192.168.0.202/24. Podrá ejecutar `ifconfig` en el terminal del teléfono para comprobar esto (opcional, compruébelo si no funciona con las instrucciones que siguen).<br />
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Si conecta un cable USB en un equipo ejecutando Linux, verá el módulo de núcleo "cdc_ether" cargado y aparacerá una interfaz de red usb0.<br />
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En el PC anfitrión, debe configurar la interfaz con la dirección 192.168.0.202 usando<br />
# ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0<br />
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Después podrá ser capaz de hacer<br />
# ping 192.168.0.202<br />
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y por último<br />
# ssh root@192.168.0.202<br />
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Una vez pulse 'enter' (sin clave), debería tener en ese momento una acceso como root.<br />
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Ver [[USB_Networking]] para más detalles, donde se incluyen las instrucciones de como configurar ''masquerading'' para que su teléfono puede acceder a internet a través del PC anfitrión.<br />
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=== Usando la tarjeta depuradora/serie/JTAG ===<br />
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Vea [[Debug Board#Usage_Instructions]]<br />
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== Acceso a la consola de arranque ==<br />
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Vea [[u-boot#Using_usbtty_from_Linux]]<br />
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== Reproduciendo sonido ==<br />
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=== Conectar altavoz interno y micrófono en llamadas de teléfono ===<br />
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Si no consigue hacer funcionar el altavoz y micrófono mientras realiza una llamada, entonces necesitará cargar el fichero de configuración para alsa "gsmhandset.state":<br />
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alsactl -f /etc/alsa/gsmhandset.state restore<br />
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Es probable que necesite cargar otro fichero .state para reproducir mp3 o que un auricular bluetooth pueda ver /etc/alsa/.<br />
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== Comandos útiles en linux ==<br />
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=== Suspendiendo ===<br />
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Writing "mem" into ''/sys/power/state'' tells Linux to suspend - it will enter a low power mode where only the GSM and RAM are powered up and the CPU sleeps. It will persist in this state until a wake-up event arrives. Some currently enabled wake-up events are: AUX or POWER key press, USB cable detect.<br />
Escribiendo "mem" en ''/sys/power/state'' le dirá a Linux que se suspenda - entrará en un modo de bajo consumo con solamente GSM y RAM funcionando mientras el microprocesador duerme. Continuará en este estado hasta que suceda un evento que lo active. Algunos eventos de activación son: pulsación de ''AUX'' o ''POWER'', detección de cable USB...<br />
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Si está conectado por ssh, el sshd no responderá cuando el sistema operativo se suspende, y para evitar colgar al cliente ssh, use el comando<br />
# (sleep 1; echo mem > /sys/power/state) & exit<br />
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=== Copia de seguridad inicial ===<br />
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Una vez arrancado su nuevo Neo1973 podría querer hacer una copia de seguridad del contenido de la memoria flash original en su PC, antes de sobreescribir la memoria flash con una imagen personalizada o actualizada. <br />
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{{note|Para desarrolladores de fase 0 únicamente (GTA01Bv4 envíos 0, '''no &gt; 0 '''): Esto es una buena idea porque hay partes en sistema de ficheros raiz que no pueden se distribuidos por internet y sólo se encuentran en la ROM suministrada (ver el controlador [[GPS]]).}}<br />
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Una manera sencilla de realizar la copia de seguridad completa de la memoria flash, sin necesidad de instalar ningún software especial, es con ''netcat'' a través de la red [[USB Networking|USB ethernet]]. Los comandos siguientes son para hacerlo:<br />
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! En el origen !! En el destino<br />
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|<pre><br />
$ netcat -l -p 20000 > mtdblock0<br />
$ netcat -l -p 20000 > mtdblock1<br />
$ netcat -l -p 20000 > mtdblock2<br />
$ netcat -l -p 20000 > mtdblock3<br />
$ netcat -l -p 20000 > mtdblock4<br />
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|<pre><br />
# cat /dev/mtdblock0 | nc 192.168.0.200 20000<br />
# cat /dev/mtdblock1 | nc 192.168.0.200 20000<br />
# cat /dev/mtdblock2 | nc 192.168.0.200 20000<br />
# cat /dev/mtdblock3 | nc 192.168.0.200 20000<br />
# cat /dev/mtdblock4 | nc 192.168.0.200 20000<br />
</pre><br />
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Esto guarda las cinco particiones NAND en ficheros de nombre mtdblock*. Conociendo la distribución de las particiones (el comando ''u-boot'' "mtdparts" o ''dmesg'' en Linux) podrá restaurar la memoria flash completamente.<br />
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=== Dónde continuar ===<br />
<br />
Probablemente quiere continuar con algo del interesante hardware en este dispositivo. Obviamente, puede explorar las aplicaciones disponibles a través de la interfaz de pantalla táctil. Pero para quienes prefieran hacer más cosas básicas desde una línea de comandos, pueden ir a [[Manually_using_GSM | manually use GSM]] o empezar a jugar con el [[GPS]].<br />
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[[Category:Documentation]]<br />
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<div>== Cambiar la palabra Colocando la Batería ==<br />
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cordial saludo, sugiero un cambio en uno de los apartados. «Colocar» por «Poniendo»<br />
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A mi modo de ver, «Colocar» no se refiere a la idea que que queremos referir,en la cual es instalar y dejar la pila o batería funcionando con el teléfono.<br />
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Significado de colocar:<br />
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1. tr. Poner a alguien o algo en su debido lugar. U. t. c. prnl.<br />
2. tr. Invertir dinero.<br />
3. tr. Acomodar a alguien, poniéndole en algún estado o empleo. U. t. c. prnl.<br />
4. tr. Encontrar mercado para algún producto. Ha colocado su artículo en un periódico<br />
5. tr. coloq. Dicho del alcohol o de una droga: Causar un estado eufórico. U. m. c. prnl.<br />
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Mientras que poner tiene la cabida:<br />
3. tr. Disponer algo para un cierto fin.<br />
13. tr. Establecer, instalar. Puso un negocio.<br />
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[[OpenMoko]] es un proyecto de [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Código Abierto] para crear el primer sistema operativo libre para teléfonos móviles a nivel mundial.<br />
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El proyecto [[OpenMoko]] es una comunidad a la cual se puede unir cualquier persona para diseñar su teléfono móvil ideal.<br />
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La meta a largo plazo de [[OpenMoko]] es que el software utilizado por los teléfonos móviles no sea específico para un sólo tipo de dispositivo. Esto implica que usted puede comprar cualquier teléfono móvil y usar cualquier aplicación e instalarla en una amplia gama de dispositivos compatibles. Así, no hay riesgo de pérdida de información cuando exista una actualización. Además todos los dispositivos móviles se benefician de la depuración de errores: se corrige para uno, se corrige para todos.<br />
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En un principio [[OpenMoko]] está diseñado para [[Neo1973/es|Neo1973]] de [[FIC/es|FIC]]. Pero en un futuro podrá existir para otras plataformas.<br />
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¡¡Únase a nosotros!! colabore con [[OpenMoko | El Proyecto OpenMoko]] a través de cualquiera de nuestras opciones: [[Development resources/es | recursos del proyecto]], incluyendo: [[Main Page/es | Página principal]]. Por favor diríjase a: [[Help:Contents | página de ayuda en el wiki]] para obtener información de como colaborar en el wiki. Cordialmente [[Meet the Core Team/es| grupo de desarrolladores, fundado por FIC, Inc.]] quien lidera el proyecto.<br />
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Existe una [[Introduction/es|página de introducción]] con [[Introduction#Fotos|fotos]] y [[Introduction#Videos|videos]] disponibles. Además esta disponible la página de [[FAQ | Preguntas de Uso Frecuente, PUF]] que puede servirle. Los desarrolladores pueden encontrar de utilidad la bitácora de cambios: [[ChangeLog | Bitácora de desarrollo]] (en inglés).<br />
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Los miembros de la comunidad [[OpenMoko]] desean darle las gracias a [[FIC/es|FIC Inc.]] por mostrar liderazgo e iniciativa en el proyecto [[OpenMoko]].<br />
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* [[Basic End-user/es|Usuario final básico]] - Información para los usuarios finales.<br />
* [[Advanced End-user/es|Usuario final avanzado]] - Información para usuarios avanzados. Los usuarios avanzados son quienes desean conocer y experimentar más a fondo con el teléfono pero no son programadores :).<br />
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* [[Application Developer/es|Desarrollador de aplicaciones]] -Información técnica para desarrolladores que incluye ideas y especificaciones para el desarrollo de aplicaciones y herramientas para tal fin.<br />
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* [[Hardware Developer/es|Desarrollador de Hardware]] - Información para personas que son desarrolladores del sistema físico (hardware). En éste vínculo se encuentran las especificaciones y las hojas de datos del hardware del teléfono así como también de la tarjeta de evaluación.<br />
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* [[Current_events]] - Información presente y pasada de FIC y OpenMoko y donde tienen o tendrán presencia (en inglés).<br />
* [http://forums.makeopensource.com/ Unofficial OpenMoko Forums] - Todos están invitados a colaborar: usuarios y desarrolladores de OpenMoko en los foros (en inglés).<br />
* Mucha de la documentación y el Wiki asume que usted usa GNU/Linux; he aquí algunas notas de los usuarios de otros sistemas operativos [[Other OSes]] (en inglés).<br />
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'''Administrativo y Organizacional'''<br />
* [[Shipping Notes]] -Información que le ayudará a FIC sobre el como remitirle los productos al usuario,y el como reducir el costo del mismo.<br />
* [[My Account]] - Ideas for what sort of account-based services FIC should provide with the phone.<br />
* [[Hear Me FIC]] - Information to help FIC know what the community wants.<br />
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* [[MokoMakefile/es|Construyendo su entorno de desarrollo con MokoMakefile]] <br />
* [[Building OpenMoko from scratch]]<br />
** Old [[Building OpenMoko from scratch (pre-BBT)]]<br />
* [[Migration to bad block tolerant builds]]<br />
* [[Running OpenMoko on PC]]<br />
** [[Getting Openmoko working on host with Xoo]]<br />
** [[Getting OpenMoko working on host with Xephyr]]<br />
** [[How to run OpenMoko Apps on PC]]<br />
** [[OpenMoko under QEMU]]<br />
* [[Booting from SD]]<br />
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'''Documentos y hojas de datos del «Hardware»'''<br />
* Todas documentaciones y especificaciones relacionadas al [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware]] se encuentran en [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware page]].<br />
* La pagina [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 Hardware page]] da un repaso de los componentes de hardware usados por [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 hardware platform]]. Fotografías del PCB son también incluidas. [[Disassembling Neo1973/es| Abriendo el Neo1973]] puede ser un lugar interesante para comenzar.<br />
* [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging | Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]] se asiste con [[Debug Board | Neo1973 debug board]]. Una pagina discutiendo [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2 | debug board and Neo1973 configurations]] también esta disponible.<br />
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''' Documentación de referencia para los programas o «software» '''<br />
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* Arquitectura<br />
** [[OpenMokoFramework]] - Sistema de desarrollo para el OpenMoko (en inglés).<br />
* [[neo1973 host software/es|Software del lado del PC anfitrión]]<br />
* Sistema lógico<br />
** Bajo nivel<br />
*** [[u-boot]] - El sistema de inicio.Se incluyen las modificaciones que se han hecho para el OpenMoko (en inglés).<br />
*** [[kernel]] - El núcleo(kernel) de linux que se usa. Se incluye la documentación de las modificaciones hechas (en inglés).<br />
** Espacio del usuario<br />
*** [[gsmd]] - El «demonio» GSM que maneja el módem GSM (en inglés),<br />
*** [[gpsd]] - El demonio AGPS (en inglés).<br />
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* [[OpenEmbedded]] - El entorno de desarrollo para armar la distribución (en inglés).<br />
* [[Toolchain]] - Las herramientas que se usan para la compilación (en inglés).<br />
* [[OpenMoko]] - La distribución OpenMoko (en inglés)<br />
** [[OpenMoko2007]] - La primera versión de la misma (en inglés).<br />
** [[Userspace root image]] (en inglés)<br />
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''' Información relacionada con la interfaz de usuario '''<br />
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* [[Look & Feel]] Ver y sentir (en inglés).<br />
* [[Applications]] Aplicaciones (en inglés)<br />
* [[Widgets]] Módulos de la aplicación gráfica (en inglés).<br />
** [[Widget Inheritance Graph/es|Grafo de herencia de los widgets]] <br />
* [[Application UI Design Recommendations]]<br />
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* [[Freshman todo]] por hacer (en inglés).<br />
* [[Templates/es|Plantillas]]<br />
* [[PIM Storage]] (en inglés)<br />
* [[Coding Guidelines/es|Guía de codificación]]<br />
* [[OpenMoko#Setting_up_an_OpenMoko_SDK|Como configurar OpenMoko SDK]] (en inglés).<br />
* Distribuciones alternativas para el [[Neo1973]] GTA01: [[Angstrom on Neo1973]], [http://pokylinux.org Poky] [http://www.usome.com](instructions needed!)<br />
* [[License]] - El Cómo de licencia en el código (en inglés).<br />
* [[Development resources/es| Recursos de desarrollo]] - Las fuentes de recursos para los desarrolladores (Listas, svn,irc, ...)<br />
* [[Neo1973 Phase 0]] -- Información relacionada con la «fase 0» para los dueños de los dispositivos (en inglés).<br />
* [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]] -- Puntos de vista acerca de la fase 0 y PUF(Preguntas de uso frecuente) (en inglés).<br />
* [[Neo1973 Phase 1]] - Información para los dueños del dispositivo de Fase 1 (en inglés).<br />
* [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P1 Review]] - Impresiones del dispositivo de la Fase 1 (en inglés)<br />
* [[External Feeds]] - Lista de las anotaciones en los blogs sobre OpenMoko (en Inglés).<br />
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* [[WiFi support in OpenMoko]] - Soporte Wifi en OpenMoko (en inglés).<br />
* [[Neo1973 and Windows]] - El Neo1973 y el windows (al parecer no funciona la documentación. En inglés)<br />
* [[Press Coverage]] - Artículos de prensa, promocionando las cualidades del OpenMoko :) (en ingĺes).<br />
* [[mFAQ]] - Contrainformación cPUF ('''mFAQ''') - Lo que la prensa dice de forma '''''incorrecta''''' del proyecto OpenMoko (en inglés).<br />
* [[Wish List]] - Una colección de ideas que en algún futuro quisiéramos ver implementadas (en inglés).<br />
* [[Wish List - Hardware]] - Una colección de ideas de lo que se quisiera tener puesto en teléfono (en inglés).<br />
* [[Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage|Wish List - Built-in Scripting Language]] - Discusión sobre el lenguaje de script que será incluido.<br />
* [[Media Content/es|Contenido multimedia]] - Cuáles son los tipos de archivos multimedia que puede usar el dispositivo (este es no software)?<br />
* [[Testimonials]] - Testimonios (en inglés).<br />
* [[Buying Interest List]] - Interezados en comprar (no es una página oficial para hacer una preorden). Interezado en comprar un Neo1973? Ponga su nick aquí.<br />
* [[iPhone/es|iPhone]] - Comparación entre del iPhone de Apple y el FIC Neo1973<br />
* [[Translation]] - Traducción de OpenMoko (en inglés)<br />
* [[Summer of code]] -Nuestra sitio con aplicaciones del proyecto para «Google Summer of Code» (en inglés).<br />
* [[SWAG]] - Donde comprar OpenMoko camisetas.<br />
* [[Trademark Policy]] -- política de marca de OpenMoko<br />
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[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|right|frontside]]<br />
[[OpenMoko]] es un proyecto de [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Código Abierto] para crear el primer sistema operativo libre para teléfonos móviles a nivel mundial.<br />
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El proyecto [[OpenMoko]] es una comunidad a la cual se puede unir cualquier persona para diseñar su teléfono móvil ideal.<br />
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La meta a largo plazo de [[OpenMoko]] es que el software utilizado por los teléfonos móviles no sea específico para un sólo tipo de dispositivo. Esto implica que usted puede comprar cualquier teléfono móvil y usar cualquier aplicación e instalarla en una amplia gama de dispositivos compatibles. Así, no hay riesgo de pérdida de información cuando exista una actualización. Además todos los dispositivos móviles se benefician de la depuración de errores: se corrige para uno, se corrige para todos.<br />
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En un principio [[OpenMoko]] está diseñado para [[Neo1973/es|Neo1973]] de [[FIC/es|FIC]]. Pero en un futuro podrá existir para otras plataformas.<br />
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¡¡Únase a nosotros!! colabore con [[OpenMoko | El Proyecto OpenMoko]] a través de cualquiera de nuestras opciones: [[Development resources/es | recursos del proyecto]], incluyendo: [[Main Page/es | Página principal]]. Por favor diríjase a: [[Help:Contents | página de ayuda en el wiki]] para obtener información de como colaborar en el wiki. Cordialmente [[Meet the Core Team/es| grupo de desarrolladores, fundado por FIC, Inc.]] quien lidera el proyecto.<br />
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Existe una [[Introduction/es|página de introducción]] con [[Introduction#Fotos|fotos]] y [[Introduction#Videos|videos]] disponibles. Además esta disponible la página de [[FAQ | Preguntas de Uso Frecuente, PUF]] que puede servirle. Los desarrolladores pueden encontrar de utilidad la bitácora de cambios: [[ChangeLog | Bitácora de desarrollo]] (en inglés).<br />
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Los miembros de la comunidad [[OpenMoko]] desean darle las gracias a [[FIC/es|FIC Inc.]] por mostrar liderazgo e iniciativa en el proyecto [[OpenMoko]].<br />
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* [[Basic End-user/es|Usuario final básico]] - Información para los usuarios finales.<br />
* [[Advanced End-user/es|Usuario final avanzado]] - Información para usuarios avanzados. Los usuarios avanzados son quienes desean conocer y experimentar más a fondo con el teléfono pero no son programadores :).<br />
* [[Business Development]] - Intercambio de oportunidades comerciales para promover una amplia aceptación del usuario final (en inglés).<br />
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* [[Application Developer/es|Desarrollador de aplicaciones]] -Información técnica para desarrolladores que incluye ideas y especificaciones para el desarrollo de aplicaciones y herramientas para tal fin.<br />
* [[System Developer/es|Desarrollador del sistema]] - Información para desarrolladores del sistema base como por ejemplo:,desarrolladores del sistema de inicio(bootloader), del núcleo (kernel) y de bibliotecas de desarrollo.<br />
* [[Hardware Developer/es|Desarrollador de Hardware]] - Información para personas que son desarrolladores del sistema físico (hardware). En éste vínculo se encuentran las especificaciones y las hojas de datos del hardware del teléfono así como también de la tarjeta de evaluación.<br />
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! width=33% style="background:#C5FDAF;border-left:5px solid white;border-right:5px solid white;border-top:5px solid white;" | Guias para el desarrollador<br />
! width=33% style="background:#FDAFAF;border-left:5px solid white;border-right:5px solid white;border-top:5px solid white;" | Documentación de referencia para el desarrollador<br />
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* [[Development resources/es| Recursos del proyecto]] ésta página contiene todos los recursos, en forma centralizada, tales como [[Development resources/es#Listas_de_correo|listas de correo]], [[Development resources/es#IRC | IRC]], y otros recursos orientados al desarrollo de software.<br />
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* [[Current_events]] - Información presente y pasada de FIC y OpenMoko y donde tienen o tendrán presencia (en inglés).<br />
* [http://forums.makeopensource.com/ Unofficial OpenMoko Forums] - Todos están invitados a colaborar: usuarios y desarrolladores de OpenMoko en los foros (en inglés).<br />
* Mucha de la documentación y el Wiki asume que usted usa GNU/Linux; he aquí algunas notas de los usuarios de otros sistemas operativos [[Other OSes]] (en inglés).<br />
* [[MacOS_X|Mac OS X]] - Información específica para los que usan Mac OS X (en inglés).<br />
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'''Administrativo y Organizacional'''<br />
* [[Shipping Notes]] - Information to help FIC figure out how to ship products to you, and how much it might cost.<br />
* [[My Account]] - Ideas for what sort of account-based services FIC should provide with the phone.<br />
* [[Hear Me FIC]] - Information to help FIC know what the community wants.<br />
* [[Listen Up Community]] - Community's To-Do-List<br />
* [[Wiki Issues]] - problems/requests regarding this Wiki<br />
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* [[Getting Started with your Neo1973/es|Comenzando desde el principio con su Neo1973]]<br />
* [[MokoMakefile/es|Construyendo su entorno de desarrollo con MokoMakefile]] <br />
* [[Building OpenMoko from scratch]]<br />
** Old [[Building OpenMoko from scratch (pre-BBT)]]<br />
* [[Migration to bad block tolerant builds]]<br />
* [[Running OpenMoko on PC]]<br />
** [[Getting Openmoko working on host with Xoo]]<br />
** [[Getting OpenMoko working on host with Xephyr]]<br />
** [[How to run OpenMoko Apps on PC]]<br />
** [[OpenMoko under QEMU]]<br />
* [[Booting from SD]]<br />
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'''Documentos y hojas de datos del «Hardware»'''<br />
* Todas documentaciones y especificaciones relacionadas al [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware]] se encuentran en [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware page]].<br />
* La pagina [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 Hardware page]] da un repaso de los componentes de hardware usados por [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 hardware platform]]. Fotografías del PCB son también incluidas. [[Disassembling Neo1973/es| Abriendo el Neo1973]] puede ser un lugar interesante para comenzar.<br />
* [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging | Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]] se asiste con [[Debug Board | Neo1973 debug board]]. Una pagina discutiendo [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2 | debug board and Neo1973 configurations]] también esta disponible.<br />
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''' Documentación de referencia para los programas o «software» '''<br />
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* Arquitectura<br />
** [[OpenMokoFramework]] - Sistema de desarrollo para el OpenMoko (en inglés).<br />
* [[neo1973 host software/es|Software del lado del PC anfitrión]]<br />
* Sistema lógico<br />
** Bajo nivel<br />
*** [[u-boot]] - El sistema de inicio.Se incluyen las modificaciones que se han hecho para el OpenMoko (en inglés).<br />
*** [[kernel]] - El núcleo(kernel) de linux que se usa. Se incluye la documentación de las modificaciones hechas (en inglés).<br />
** Espacio del usuario<br />
*** [[gsmd]] - El «demonio» GSM que maneja el módem GSM (en inglés),<br />
*** [[gpsd]] - El demonio AGPS (en inglés).<br />
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* [[OpenEmbedded]] - El entorno de desarrollo para armar la distribución (en inglés).<br />
* [[Toolchain]] - Las herramientas que se usan para la compilación (en inglés).<br />
* [[OpenMoko]] - La distribución OpenMoko (en inglés)<br />
** [[OpenMoko2007]] - La primera versión de la misma (en inglés).<br />
** [[Userspace root image]] (en inglés)<br />
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''' Información relacionada con la interfaz de usuario '''<br />
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* [[Look & Feel]] Ver y sentir (en inglés).<br />
* [[Applications]] Aplicaciones (en inglés)<br />
* [[Widgets]] Módulos de la aplicación gráfica (en inglés).<br />
** [[Widget Inheritance Graph/es|Grafo de herencia de los widgets]] <br />
* [[Application UI Design Recommendations]]<br />
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* [[Freshman todo]] por hacer (en inglés).<br />
* [[Templates/es|Plantillas]]<br />
* [[PIM Storage]] (en inglés)<br />
* [[Coding Guidelines/es|Guía de codificación]]<br />
* [[OpenMoko#Setting_up_an_OpenMoko_SDK|Como configurar OpenMoko SDK]] (en inglés).<br />
* Distribuciones alternativas para el [[Neo1973]] GTA01: [[Angstrom on Neo1973]], [http://pokylinux.org Poky] [http://www.usome.com](instructions needed!)<br />
* [[License]] - El Cómo de licencia en el código (en inglés).<br />
* [[Development resources/es| Recursos de desarrollo]] - Las fuentes de recursos para los desarrolladores (Listas, svn,irc, ...)<br />
* [[Neo1973 Phase 0]] -- Información relacionada con la «fase 0» para los dueños de los dispositivos (en inglés).<br />
* [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]] -- Puntos de vista acerca de la fase 0 y PUF(Preguntas de uso frecuente) (en inglés).<br />
* [[Neo1973 Phase 1]] - Información para los dueños del dispositivo de Fase 1 (en inglés).<br />
* [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P1 Review]] - Impresiones del dispositivo de la Fase 1 (en inglés)<br />
* [[External Feeds]] - Lista de las anotaciones en los blogs sobre OpenMoko (en Inglés).<br />
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* [[WiFi support in OpenMoko]] - Soporte Wifi en OpenMoko (en inglés).<br />
* [[Neo1973 and Windows]] - El Neo1973 y el windows (al parecer no funciona la documentación. En inglés)<br />
* [[Press Coverage]] - Artículos de prensa, promocionando las cualidades del OpenMoko :) (en ingĺes).<br />
* [[mFAQ]] - Contrainformación cPUF ('''mFAQ''') - Lo que la prensa dice de forma '''''incorrecta''''' del proyecto OpenMoko (en inglés).<br />
* [[Wish List]] - Una colección de ideas que en algún futuro quisiéramos ver implementadas (en inglés).<br />
* [[Wish List - Hardware]] - Una colección de ideas de lo que se quisiera tener puesto en teléfono (en inglés).<br />
* [[Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage|Wish List - Built-in Scripting Language]] - Discusión sobre el lenguaje de script que será incluido.<br />
* [[Media Content/es|Contenido multimedia]] - Cuáles son los tipos de archivos multimedia que puede usar el dispositivo (este es no software)?<br />
* [[Testimonials]] - Testimonios (en inglés).<br />
* [[Buying Interest List]] - Interezados en comprar (no es una página oficial para hacer una preorden). Interezado en comprar un Neo1973? Ponga su nick aquí.<br />
* [[iPhone/es|iPhone]] - Comparación entre del iPhone de Apple y el FIC Neo1973<br />
* [[Translation]] - Traducción de OpenMoko (en inglés)<br />
* [[Summer of code]] -Nuestra sitio con aplicaciones del proyecto para «Google Summer of Code» (en inglés).<br />
* [[SWAG]] - Donde comprar OpenMoko camisetas.<br />
* [[Trademark Policy]] -- política de marca de OpenMoko<br />
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[[Category:Categories| ]]</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:ArwUser:Arw2008-06-14T17:32:13Z<p>Arw: </p>
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<div>I am a free-software enthusiastic and user from a ten (10) years long. <br />
I am feel very conftable using and developing free-software.<br />
I'm using the moko simulation to test some app.<br />
<br />
I did this wiki first traslation to spanish. <br />
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arawaco@ieee.org<br />
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http://live.gnome.org/arawaco<br />
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Si está en Bogotá puede unirse al grupo local: [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Bogota]].<br />
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If you're in Bogotá, you might want to join the local group : [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Bogota]].</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:ArwUser:Arw2008-06-14T17:29:34Z<p>Arw: New page: I am a free-software enthusiastic and user from a ten (10) years long. I am feel very conftable using and developing free-software. I'm using the moko simulation to test some app. arawac...</p>
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<div>I am a free-software enthusiastic and user from a ten (10) years long. <br />
I am feel very conftable using and developing free-software.<br />
I'm using the moko simulation to test some app.<br />
<br />
arawaco@ieee.org<br />
<br />
http://live.gnome.org/arawaco<br />
<br />
Si está en Bogotá puede unirse al grupo local: [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Bogota]].<br />
<br />
If you're in Bogotá, you might want to join the local group : [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Bogota]].</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Local_Groups:_BogotaOpenmoko Local Groups: Bogota2008-06-14T17:18:22Z<p>Arw: </p>
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<div>Welcome to the Bogotá openmoko page!<br />
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Hopefully we'll be able to organise an event when a few of us get the neos - please also keep the page updated with any interest you get from your local LUGs.<br />
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{|border=1<br />
!Name<br />
!Skills<br />
!Level of Interest<br />
!Location<br />
!Has Device<br />
!Other<br />
|-<br />
|Andrés Calderón<br />
|Developer: C, C++, ASM, Javascript, etc.<br />
|Advocate, develop applications.<br />
|Bogotá, DC.<br />
|<br />
|We are developing a project and we will use the Neo1973/Openmoko for it. We ordered a Neo1973 Advanced.<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Nelsoneci|Nelson Castillo]]<br />
|Developer: C, C++, Python, ASM, Javascript, etc.<br />
|Advocate, develop applications.<br />
|Bogotá, DC.<br />
|[[Image: MokoBox.jpg|center]]<br />
|We are developing a project and we will use the Neo1973/Openmoko for it. We ordered a Neo1973 Advanced.<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Aztlek|Luis Alejandro Bernal Romero]]<br />
|Developer: C, C++, Python, etc.<br />
|Advocate, develop applications.<br />
|Bogotá, DC.<br />
|<br />
|Interesado en desarrollar y en explorar las posibilidades.<br />
|-<br />
|Offray Luna<br />
|Developer: Python, Smalltalk.<br />
|<br />
|Bogota, DC.<br />
|[[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Arw|Exell E. Franklin J.]]<br />
|Developer: C, C++,asm,java,gtk+.<br />
|Advocate, develop applications.<br />
|Bogotá, DC.<br />
|<br />
|I am interested to use the Neo1973Advanced.<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category: OpenMoko Local Groups| ]]</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Local_Groups:_BogotaOpenmoko Local Groups: Bogota2008-06-14T17:16:33Z<p>Arw: </p>
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<div>Welcome to the Bogotá openmoko page!<br />
<br />
Hopefully we'll be able to organise an event when a few of us get the neos - please also keep the page updated with any interest you get from your local LUGs.<br />
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{|border=1<br />
!Name<br />
!Skills<br />
!Level of Interest<br />
!Location<br />
!Has Device<br />
!Other<br />
|-<br />
|Andrés Calderón<br />
|Developer: C, C++, ASM, Javascript, etc.<br />
|Advocate, develop applications.<br />
|Bogotá, DC.<br />
|<br />
|We are developing a project and we will use the Neo1973/Openmoko for it. We ordered a Neo1973 Advanced.<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Nelsoneci|Nelson Castillo]]<br />
|Developer: C, C++, Python, ASM, Javascript, etc.<br />
|Advocate, develop applications.<br />
|Bogotá, DC.<br />
|[[Image: MokoBox.jpg|center]]<br />
|We are developing a project and we will use the Neo1973/Openmoko for it. We ordered a Neo1973 Advanced.<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Aztlek|Luis Alejandro Bernal Romero]]<br />
|Developer: C, C++, Python, etc.<br />
|Advocate, develop applications.<br />
|Bogotá, DC.<br />
|<br />
|Interesado en desarrollar y en explorar las posibilidades.<br />
|-<br />
|Offray Luna<br />
|Developer: Python, Smalltalk.<br />
|<br />
|Bogota, DC.<br />
|[[Image: Moko.jpg|center]]<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|Arw(Exell E. Franklin J.)<br />
|Developer: C, C++,asm,java,gtk+.<br />
|Advocate, develop applications.<br />
|Bogotá, DC.<br />
|<br />
|I am interested to use the Neo1973Advanced.<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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[[Category:Community]]<br />
[[Category: OpenMoko Local Groups| ]]</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Group_salesTalk:Group sales2008-06-14T17:10:08Z<p>Arw: /* To open Colombia groupsales */</p>
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== England ==<br />
=== [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Oxford Oxford] ===<br />
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{[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Tim Coggins] 27/04}<br />
It seems apparent from the London group that there will not be 10 people in Oxford who initially want a Freerunner. Therefore I suggest one person gets an 10 pack shipped to them (to save on price, shipping and to get the goodies!) and then mails them individually across the UK. I am willing to make the order and mail the phones if we can find a way to ensure all parties interests are secure (ie. no one is going to get ripped off or left with Neo's they don't need). Has anyone got any ideas of how this could work?<br />
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:It may make sense, depending on numbers, to combine fractional 10s from several places (e.g. Hants, Oxford, West Mids). I would suggest waiting until orders are going to go in, and then shifting people around to their nearest regional organiser to make up a 10.<br />
:Regarding security and trust of the transactions -- it's down to public reputations, I think. I'm organising the Hampshire one, and I've been active in the local Linux Users Group for years, so I know most of the people on our list, and they know that I'm pretty unlikely to run off to Patagonia with their money. I'd guess it's up to each organiser to come to an agreement with each purchaser that both are happy with. [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] 14:08, 28 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
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It's barking to think that - outside of London - there are likely to be as many as 10 people who want Freerunners and who are all within 30 or 45 minutes drive of each other. It's quite obvious, IMO, that postage will be required. See the "security of payments" subsection I've just added below. [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 18:07, 28 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
<br />
:Well, we've got 10 people for Hampshire already... [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] 18:37, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
::Well, an active LUG is going to make all the difference. [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 21:41, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
<br />
==== UK Group Sales and shipping - security of payments ====<br />
<br />
I'm prepared to pay up front for my Freerunner - at least 50% of the price, anyway - to someone with a decent reputation. Basically, if you've been posting on usenet or Linux-centric mailing-lists or web-forums for years then that's good enough for me. For instance uk.adverts.computers has always worked on the assumption of trusting the seller and paying up front - I've never been ripped off, and scammers are always identified quite quickly; obviously this identification was at the cost of at least one buyer, so in this case of an order of ten Freerunners we need some form of reputation in order to avoid that. Does the group buyer have lots of eBay feedback?<br />
<br />
I believe that a 50% up-front payment largely solves the trust problem. What's the consensus?<br />
<br />
In principle I'd be prepared to make the group order & post onwards (or allow collection - I'm about 5 minutes from M1 Junction 14, halfway between London & Birmingham), with the expectation of a 50% up-front payment. However cash is very tight at the moment, and I don't know that I'll be able to front the other 50%. I do have a decent online reputation, and I've been posting in Gentoo-user and on other mailing-lists for years. I can probably find at least one or two people who know me from these postings and who have visited my house or my father's socially or to pick up a secondhand LaserJet, but probably someone who has been active in a local LUG might be considered to have a better reputation. [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 18:07, 28 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
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{[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Tim Coggins] 29/04} With the 50% up front model I would be concerned that once I have sent the phones out that someone would be so happy with their Neo that they might forget to give me the other 50%. What would I do if someone claimed their box was empty? Thinking about all these edge cases makes me think I might be better with a reseller and my Amex :(<br />
<br />
:I wouldn't want to cover 50% of the price up front for even a single 10-pack. However, I've been a good member of HantsLUG for 9 or so years, I've run it for two, and I'm currently one of the team running lug.org.uk, so I've probably got a reasonable online reputation. [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] 18:37, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
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:Sorry - I was thinking 50% when the order's placed with OpenMoko, the other 50% when the Freerunners arrive in the UK (cash on collection or cleared funds before shipping onwards). The person making the order should be the "most trustworthy" - it's easier for everyone else to "audit" him than for him to have to worry about any one of the other 9 buyers stiffing him. But having said all that, I wouldn't have any worries about paying 100% up-front to someone like [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] - [mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk let me know] if someone drops out of your group, mate (assuming you're happy to Special Delivery onwards to me). [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 21:50, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
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== [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#The_Netherlands The Netherlands] ==<br />
<br />
Discuss possible ways how to deal with the distribution in The Netherlands.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 19/04} I received an idea from [[User:Jan de Haan]]. We could try to find a distributor/importer, and approach that person with the question of doing the importing for us. Sadly I don't know anyone in that business, so I have no idea how to go about contacting someone like that.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Tjikkun|Sander Hoentjen]] 19/04} I might be able to help out here, next Tuesday I will talk with my ex-employer and ask if he has any ideas. (Their business is helping US companies establish market in Europe)<br />
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{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 19/04}Please do. And keep us informed. Would be great if we can get this off the ground.<br />
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{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 19/04}Agree. For the record: the reason we are looking for a professional business to organize this for us is the inability of any person to front the money for 10 Freerunners, an amount of money ($6000,-) that almost everybody gives the hickups. So we're looking for a business that can buy us the 10 phones with the discount with the guaranteed sale of them. I've done business with sallandautomatisering (Am _not_ affiliated with them in any way) and they showed definite interest. So if Sander's way does not work, I suggest we contact them.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 20/04} Jan, the Freerunner is cheaper than that. In group sale we're probably looking at a figure of 'just' $3690 (ex shipping, and probably other costs.) And otherwise it's $399 per sold phone (again excluding shipping costs and probably also import fees)<br />
BTW it would be good if the people interested in getting a Neo in this group sale also add contact information, so that people can be notified, if you haven't done so already. Out of 11, we're only able to contact 8, at the moment.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 20/04} The $6000 was 10x the price for the first hardware version for sale with the debug option. Btw, I'm definitely interested in the debug version, although that is sold as a separte packge. Source http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015080.html (Thanks, Marcel. ;-) )<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 20/04} I have notified 9 people on the Dutch list about this page. The other two I have no way of contacting at the moment. Let's hope they read the community mailing list. :)<br />
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{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 20/04} Yorick at this point, I'm not sure. I'm not an importer myself, just someone who is eager to get his grubby hands on a Neo. :) BTW, you could start a similar discussion on it for Belgians right here as well. Just add it to the page here. Just make a separate section on this page. :)<br />
<br />
{[[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] 20/04} I was thinking that, in the case finding someone willing to do the importing in the Netherlands would fail, we maybe could join such an initiative abroad.<br />
@Jan de Haan: I think asking sallandautomatisering will do no harm.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]] 21/04} I can help oragnise the importing. This is something I do in my business but<br />
have very little time available. So we need to be superefficient with information and of course financial arrangements. Feel free to mail me eric _at_ fruitcom.com.<br />
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<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 21/04}<br />
<br />
<br />
Gepost via: http://salland.eu/content/mysalland/mail_contact.php<br />
onder subject: E-mailcontact - Product Management artikel toevoegen<br />
<br />
Hier kunt u artikelen opgeven, die nog niet in het assortiment van <br />
Salland Automatisering voorkomen, maar die u wel door ons geleverd <br />
zou willen zien worden.<br />
Wees svp zo compleet mogelijk met het verstrekken van informatie <br />
over het te leveren artikel.<br />
<br />
Uw naam J. de Haan<br />
Uw e-mailadres [[Special:Emailuser/User:Jan de Haan|Contact]]<br />
Artikelinformatie<br />
Merk openmoko<br />
Naam freerunner<br />
Website openmoko.com<br />
<br />
L.S.,<br />
<br />
wij (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands) proberen <br />
als groep minstens 10 openmoko/freerunner toestellen te verkrijgen a E369,- voor <br />
de groepskorting. Bent u geintereseerd om dit voor ons te realiseren?<br />
<br />
Hoogachtend,<br />
<br />
J. de Haan.<br />
<br />
PS Reactie kan via mijn email adres of via de bovengenoemde pagina, deze mail <br />
wordt daar ook gepost.<br />
<br />
E-mailcontact - verzonden<br />
Uw bericht is ontvangen en wordt zo spoedig mogelijk behandeld.<br />
<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 22/04} Thanks Jan. I hope this will work, I'm just afraid, we're going to need more people to make it viable for those stores to import it. But I see that they use a .eu domain, so if they also sell stuff over the border, I don't think it to be too hard to drum up some support from the other European groups. That way we can make a bigger market to offset those import costs for the retailer.<br />
BTW, I replaced your email address in that email, with something more spam-proof. ;)<br />
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{[[User:Tjikkun|Sander Hoentjen]] 22/04} I had no luck with my ex-employer unfortunately. A comment about the Salland Automatisering letter though: You are talking about a E369,-, is that the price in Euro you are thinking about? ATM 369.00 USD = 231.037 EUR, shipping and taxes will be applied, anybody knows what the price will be for us taken that into account? How much money can a company make out of it, in order for us to still buy? I don't think a company will do it for free, but maybe they will do it for just the publicity, that can be good for them of course.<br />
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{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 22/04} If I had to ballpark it, I'd say aim at around 350, anything below it would be great. I'm not sure what the shipping costs/import costs would come at. I think, looking at other consumer electronic prices in the US and Europe, it's a safe bet (lots of appliances have about the same number behind the currency symbol, whether it is $ or euro)<br />
And the $369 and $399 are still estimates, at least if I read Steve's mail correctly.<br />
<br />
{[[User:AVee|Arjan Veenstra]] 20/04} Personally I wouldn't mind doing this through a private person, as long as things are properly documented (e.g. there is proof when things go wrong). That will mean having to pay in advance, but I doubt anyone of us would bother to run off with $4000. A 5 lines 'contract' is probably enough to make sure you get your money back when the Freerunner don't show up. But then, i'll just go along with the rest of you.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Tjikkun|Sander Hoentjen]] 23/04} Through a private person is also fine by me, the only problem I see is getting a proper invoice. This might come in handy when there is a problem with the phone, for which you have insurance, like I do.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 23/04} Indeed, I'd like to get an invoice as well. If Openmoko would add a separate invoice for each of the ten phones in the box, so that everyone can use that for their warranty/administration. I don't see many problems with going through a private person. We could even make it a meet at a central location, ;) to hand out the phones, to make sure that everyone gets his/her phone.<br />
<br />
<br />
{[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]] 23/04} I like the idea to have Openmoko invoice each of the group separately, if that does not<br />
kill their bulk buy offer. I am happy to go along with the proposal and send advances to someone in the group to consolidate the purchase. I work in importing so any help you need, please ask.<br />
<br />
{[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]] 24/04} Going through one person is fine with me. I'll happily pre-pay and get my phone handed out <br />
on Utrecht CS :-)<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 23/04} Update: I'm still talking with sallandautomatisering, but cannot update untill a conclusion has been reached. Sorry. But hey, at least they are talking ;-) You'll have to trust me on that. If people don't, I can talk to one other person on this list in confidence, but you got to have a little patience for the moment. As another opportunity: can somebody take a look at [http://www.trisoft.de/] and give an opinion? Two possibilities arise from this: we take our business there as a group or ask a Dutch reseller to import from there.<br />
<br />
{[[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] 23/04} Thank you for your work on Sallandautomatisering. I followed your pointer to Trisoft and was reminded of another shop: [http://www.pulster.de/index.htm?d__freerunner___b_OpenMoko_Freerunner_299_eur__b_972.htm] I don't know if they continue with importing Openmoko. I will keep an eye on them.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 23/04} And there is [http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner Handheld-linux.com], who seem eager to offer the Neo Freerunner as well. Just no Dutch stores (yet) :) Jan, I trust you. Keep up the good work.<br />
<br />
{[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 25/04} Maybe the people over at [http://www.mingos.nl/ Mingos] are willing to help out. They call themselves an IT Specialist in free software.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]] 25/04} I Why do we not import the consignment ourselves? What are the disadvantages. I could organise and/or provide the information to someone else in the group. What is the reason that we want to put our business through a dealer?<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 25/04} I think the biggest hurdle would be the invoice, warranty-wise. But I don't mind if one of us imports it, and then distributes it. Through a meet-up of some sorts would be great. A great way to get a community feel. :)<br />
You say you have experience with importing goods, Eric. Do you know what sorts of extra costs we have to keep in mind? Sales tax? Import costs? VAT? <br /><br />
Another could-be problem is with the amount of phones currently on the 'group sales list'. Currently we are at 16. Group sales are in increments of 10. So the importer could be stuck with 4 unsold phones (which of course could get sold on ebay, but it's an upfront investment in that case, with some insecurity for the importer), or 6 could get stuck with a higher expense (because they don't benefit from the group sale discount).<br />
<br />
{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 25/04} Going through a reseller you should take in mind if that party is willing to do it without taking a (large) profit. One person (doesn't have to be a business) can contact OM and ask them if the order is bigger then 10 (but not an increment of 10) the discount would still be valid per Freerunner. Or maybe one of the german resellers would give the same discount if an order above 10 pieces at once was given and send to one central person. You'd pay german VAT but that doesn't matter you would have to pay dutch VAT if you import it directly from OM. Just my 2 cents. A reseller in Holland has to ask for VAT either way as well so...<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 25/04} A similar question was asked on the mailing list, and [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015188.html Steve from openmoko] came back and told us, that "{t}here will be two products. Buy 1 OR buy 10.{...} So, if you wanted 11 you would buy a 10 +1." <br />
It could be that that's changed. But I kinda doubt that. Well, ok, yes, VAT is needed. But I was kinda looking for a list of extra costs to keep in mind, when importing goods on this scale. Does customs take a fee, or something.<br />
<br />
{[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]] 25/04} Customs _sometimes_ lets packages go through without VAT, but not always. If it isn't clearly labeled they guess what's in there and tax you on it. Also, indeed, Steve said that 10+6 is out. By the way, you'll need to 'sell' 9 of the 10 phones to break even, be careful ordering 20 and selling 16! Buying 16 (10+6) and sharing the costs would bring it to $369 instead of $349 per phone.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 25/04} Not to nitpick, but the price is already $369 per phone in the 10 pack. But you do have a point. Though I think you can easily sell those off via ebay or marktplaats or any of the other online auction sites. Too bad it isn't out yet. Would have been great to have a box them and stand in Amsterdam during Queensday, selling the phones. ;)<br />
<br />
{[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 26/04} I see we are at 17 already. Let's just try to get to 20 for the Netherlands. If we have that amount i am willing to import the phones for the group order, but i think we just should pay normal tax etc. and not try to avoid that by taking the chance the customs won't notice our package.<br />
<br />
{[[User:PingPong|Peter Hageman]] 26/04 10:00} Before the Freerunner hits the streets we will have 30 or more people joining. The price of the Freerunner won't drop with 20 or 30, but the shipping costs might.<br />
<br />
{[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]] 27/04} (I cut out a lot of somehow duplicated comments. If anyone misses anthing, I appologise for the inconvenience) I agree with Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof about not willing to avoid taxes. Neither do I, but it happend, sometimes. If you are willing to import phones for us, that would be wonderful. Thanks!<br />
<br />
{[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 28/04} Guys, I thank all of you for working on this issue. Unfortunately I cannot add anything valuable to this. I'll happily join Christ while picking up the phone at Utrecht CS. :-)<br />
<br />
{[[User:AVee|Arjan Veenstra]] 28/04} Shipping costs are, reading from comments on the community list, around $16 per piece for the 10pack. We might save some more ordering 20 or 30 at once, but we could consider placing seperate orders and have these delivered at more convinient places. (We migth, depending on the numbers, even mix and match with the guys in [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Belgium Belgium]. Perhaps for some Antwerp is closer then Utrecht...)<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 28/04} Just commenting to add [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html this link] to Steve's message to the mailing list, with an estimation of the UPS shipping costs. (For us, it is a bit more expensive, but the UPS website isn't exactly cooperating with me. If someone else could look it up. The number I got for expedited delivery was 170.94 USD, for the 10-pack, and 184.20 for UPS Worldwide Express, but I'm not entirely sure if that number is correct. Somehow the site demanded I enter in the dimensions in (rounded up) inches. So those are estimates.<br />
But my take is that it's probably wise to use the expedited, because the delivery date is in all options about the same, with one difference: Express is delivered before noon, and Expedited before the end of the day.<br />
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{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 29/04} Hi All. I'm sorry, but the dealer I was talking with, is not interested:<br />
<br />
Geachte heer,<br />
<br />
Ik heb gekeken naar de site Trisoft.de<br />
<br />
Ik vrees dat het voor ons niet interessant is om hier zaken mee te doen. Wellicht dat u zelf kunt bestellen bij Trisoft.de<br />
<br />
Wat ik heb gezien is dat er geen KvK of BTW nummers zijn en gewoon als particulier het e.e.a. geregeld kan worden.<br />
<br />
Met vriendelijke groet,<br />
<br />
Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx<br />
Product Management / Technical Support<br />
<br />
Salland Automatisering<br />
<br />
Maybe we should take their advice and order through trisoft. Anybody know anything about them? If we can pick them up ourselves (for me a 3 hours drive) we might be able do it. Main problem will be to front the money.<br />
<br />
{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 29/04} I think, reading the mail list, that 10 packs need to be ordered from the US so Trisoft is not an option I think. 1 Entity should order the 10 pack(s) and then distribute them to the other people. I could ask around maybe someone I know can be the central entity.<br />
<br />
{[[User:EdbO|Eddy Boer]] 29/04} @Jan de Haan: Maybe you can try Azerty (www.azerty.nl). The people who founded Salland Automatisering have started that new company some years ago.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 29/04} But then point them to Openmoko.com/.org, because that's AFAIK the only way of getting the group discount, give them the link to the mailing list post. <br /><br />
But I think right now the best way is to have one or two people place the group order, and distribute it from that central location, either through the mail or through a meeting. (The latter has my preference)<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 29/04} Ok, following mail is on it's way to azerty. Sorry Madjo, sent before I saw your comment.<br />
from Jan de Haan <haan.j.de@gmail.com><br />
to inkoop@azerty.nl,<br />
date Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM<br />
subject Openmoko - Freerunner<br />
mailed-by gmail.com<br />
<br />
hide details 8:52 PM (0 minutes ago)<br />
<br />
L.S.,<br />
<br />
wij (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands) proberen<br />
als groep minstens 10 openmoko/freerunner toestellen te verkrijgen a E369,- voor<br />
de groepskorting. Bent u geintereseerd om dit voor ons te realiseren?<br />
Een importeur schijnt trisoft.de te zijn. Let wel: dit product is<br />
nog niet op de markt,<br />
al zijn de laatste test productie runs klaar.<br />
<br />
Hoogachtend,<br />
<br />
J. de Haan.<br />
<br />
PS Reactie kan via mijn email adres of via de bovengenoemde pagina, deze mail<br />
wordt daar ook gepost.<br />
<br />
{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 29/04} Hi again, had a talk and we, OpenSource Nieuws Nederland would be willing to be that one entity who places that order in the US. There are a lot of things that would have to be worked out and costs have to be calculated but we would be willing to help and organize this with your help. There should be a page were people could signup once the price is known (first in first out untill a 10 pack is filled) and all would have to be paid in advance before ordering because we can't pay that amount of money in advance. Let me know if this is an idea or that you rather have an hardware reseller handle, is also cool, just let me know. OSNN is a company with a VAT number and if we will invoice individually but will not do waranty, if you want that then you need to order with trisoft or an other company. Warranty on the 10 pack is still a thing that needs to be answered on the list I think.<br />
<br />
{[[User:EdbO|Eddy Boer]] 30/04} I have also found a company who is interesting to help us. They don't sell hardware but woodworking machines, and they use opensource software as much as possible. We have talked about it and they want to buy the phones at Trisoft due to the warranty, but when you don't worry about warranty ...... Al the phones they buy should be already sold to you and the total amount should have a factor of 10 (10-pack). When the phones were arrived you can pick them up with an invoice of the company or they send the phone to you (with an invoice), but then you have to pay shipping costs. All the phones should be paid before they place the order! Belgium is also welcome!<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 04/05} I know I can't speak for all of us here. But me personally, I have a little bit more faith in the offering of Open Source Nieuws Nederland. Sorry Eddy, btw, I doubt that phones sold through Trisoft would fall under the group sale. But I could be mistaken. <br /><br />
Provided we get answers on the warranty thing from Openmoko, I think that's our best bet.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 05/05} Ok, let's take a quick vote (btw, any reseller who is interested in taking 10 way orders can extend this table):<br />
<br />
=== Votes for a reseller ===<br />
{|border=1<br />
!Name<br />
!Trisoft<br />
!Open Source Nieuws Nederland<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]]<br />
|<br />
|1 (Subject to a solution for warranty)<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:PingPong|Peter Hageman]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[Special:Emailuser/User:PWerken|Peter van de Werken]]<br />
|<br />
|1 (note: I'll buy 2 Freerunners)<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:T_M|Theo Martens]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]]<br />
|<br />
|1 (If warranty is OK)<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|'''Total'''<br />
|<br />
|10<br />
|}<br />
{[[User:Yorick|Yorick]] 06/05} I contacted Michael Brus, the manager of PDAshop. This is what he said:<br />
Beste Yorick,<br />
<br />
Bedankt voor je mail en informatie; ik kende de toestellen niet, maar zou ze<br />
best eens van dichtbij willen bekijken. Het 'developer' model lijkt me dan<br />
echter weer minder interessant voor ons; het 'consumer' model zou eind 2008<br />
op de markt moeten komen?<br />
<br />
Met vriendelijke groet,<br />
With kind regards,<br />
<br />
Michael Brus<br />
Manager PDAshop<br />
<br />
<br />
Coolblue<br />
Molenbaan 11 . 2908 LL Capelle a/d IJssel . www.coolblue.nl<br />
<br />
Coolblue is...<br />
MP3shop.nl . PDAshop.nl . Digicamshop.nl . GPSshop.nl .<br />
Smartphoneshop.nl . Consoleshop.nl . Telefoonshop.nl . meer...<br />
<br />
Should I forward this to Michael Shiloh?<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 07/05} I'll vote to wait until there are actually phones shipping, until that time, the more people we gather here, and maybe other dealers, the better the deal we get(I hope).<br />
<br />
{[[User:T_M|Theo Martens]] 08/05} <br />
Well, I want to have the phone as soon as possible. The best deal ever isn't my main concern.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 13/05}<br />
I've been browsing the mailing list, and found [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/016971.html this post] from Openmoko's Steve. Group sales have 28 days of DOA (Dead On Arrival) coverage, and single sales have 14 days of DOA coverage. Which I think is reasonable. BTW, I don't think there will be a better deal than the $369 per phone for the 10-pack. <br /><br />
We currently have enough people to fill 2 10-packs, which is awesome! <br /><br />
What we do need to figure out are the import costs, and the shipping costs. (it's shipped via UPS, if I recall correctly from the mailing list.)<br />
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{[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 22/05}<br />
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I wouldn't be too sure that this is financially going to be the best deal. This message in the community mailing list (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017668.html) shows interesting info regarding Pulster.<br />
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''Christph Pulster wrote:<br />
''> about 10 pack orders - we try to be cheaper than the 10-order-<br />
''> pack-price ! so no need to collect ten local buyers.<br />
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''This sounds so good...! I'm waiting for official news (and maybe infos<br />
about the gifts too)...''<br />
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'''I checked their webpage and they advertise with OpenMoko Freerunner 299 eur'''<br />
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{[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 22/05} I checked their website too and it says 'Sobald der Freerunner wirklich lieferbar ist, ist er an dieser Stelle mit konkretem Preis zu finden und real bestellbar.' Which could mean that the price will be something other than 299 euro.<br />
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{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 22/05} I like the pulster deal a lot, even if they are the same price as buying the 10 pack in the US the warranty part is a lot better seeing Germany is next door to us. Only thing is that you would mis out on the pouch and headset, dunno if that's such a great loss. And they say they will be going under the price of the US 10 pack order if you order the 10 from them. So maybe a vote on yes or no to the pouch/headset deal? Maybe we should check if with Pulster a group order of 10+ will always give the discount. Like 22 will get the same discount and that we are not forced in getting groups of ten people.<br />
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{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 22/05} I wrote an e-mail to pulster with the questions so I will post the answer here when I get one.<br />
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{[[User:T_M|Theo Martens]] 24/05} <br />
The pouch and headset are not that important IMO. I guess most join the group sale for convenience and reduce cost. But maybe I'm wrong.<br />
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{[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 26/05}<br />
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'''From the community mailing list again:<br />
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'''Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote [to Pulster - Ed.]:<br />
''>> 1. Do you know when you'll be approximately able to define a price?<br />
''>> 2. The Freerunner will be shipped with extra goodies (generally<br />
''>> given only to people buying a 10-pack (ie: pouch and headset)?<br />
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'''From Pulster [Ed.]<br />
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''> Price fix ASAP I have the units in own hands/stocks.<br />
''> 299-319 eur is really realistic.<br />
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''> All goodies included at PULSTER !<br />
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''> Also can be bought a lot accessories extra very soon (debug board, pens, <br />
''> cases etc)<br />
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''> you see, I will make all your wishes true :)<br />
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{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 26/05} Yeah, read that message in the weekend, no reply to my mail at this moment but seeing this message straight from pulster I would say that we should buy directly from pulster as a group. Warranty wise it's better as well.<br />
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399 U.S. dollars is about 253 Euros and including VAT that would become 301.07 Euro so pulster with their price being 299 Euro (see below) has a good price and for 10 and more there is a discount just like in the US. I would propose to take the dutch group sale to Pulster.<br />
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The following mail from Chis Pulster was on the list also.<br />
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I am Chris from pulster.eu - my hello to this great community.<br />
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May I add some points from my side:<br />
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- Freerunner - ready to order ASAP it is available. We do not<br />
take pre-orders of items we dont have in hands. For a one-time info- <br />
mail once the Freerunner is ready to order, please just email me <br />
mailto: christoph@pulster.de<br />
- we aim a Freerunner price tag of 299 EUR incl. VAT<br />
- shipping worldwide with DHL, Europa 15 EUR, World 30 EUR postage<br />
- soon we offer accessories for Freerunner like spare batterie, charger, <br />
Headset, pouch and also the debug-board<br />
- group-sales make local communities, that is wonderful. I am happy to <br />
sell Freerunner separately or in packages.<br />
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Many thanks,<br />
Chris<br />
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{[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 26/05}<br />
Indeed let's take the dutch group sale to Pulster. We are with 22 so we should be able to make a good deal regarding the goodies. And in that way no-one has to take any financial risk.<br />
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{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 28/05} My guess is, that for a group buy at pulster there is still one entity needed for buying the devices. The thing is that with pulster, as with the US deal, the waranty should be per person and not named for the buying entity.<br />
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:I don't think that we need to do the 'group buy' at Pulster. You can just buy the device at 299 a piece there. I would like to have the pouch though, if they can assure me that the pouch and other goodies would be included in the deal (because they of course could make a number of 'groupbuys' for the entire customer base), then count me in.--[[User:Madjo|MadJo]]<br />
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:: Your absolutly right on this one, been thinking about it and the possible discount we would be getting would wasted on shipping within the Netherlands again. Like you said, if there are goodies involved it's a different deal of course :) . --[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]]<br />
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:::So let's start negotiating with Pulster regarding the goodies. We can bring in 22 customers, so he has something to win. It might be important to know whether Pulster takes credit card payments. I cannot find that option on their webpage and an electronic banktransfer will add another 15 (?) euro.[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]]<br />
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:::: I'm afraid they don't accept credit cards (from their [http://www.pulster.de/engl/imprint.htm About Us page]:<br />
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We do not accept any other payment option like PayPal, Reembourse/Cash-on-delivery (COD) payments, <br />
direct CreditCard payments, any kind of cheques, western union, postal money orders, cash. Please dont <br />
ask, we do not accept none of this options thanks to a very few but very expensive scams. <br />
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:::: Nice double negative in there, btw. But still, 299+15 is less than 350 or 400. ;) --[[User:Madjo|MadJo]]<br />
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::::: If it is going to be a group sale (if pulster provides the goodies) it would be (discounted price * 22 + transfer rate + (21 * shipping within Holland)) [[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]]<br />
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:::::: Are you assuming that we'd get a discounted price when we order in bulk? I have not seen any evidence that Pulster will lower the price even more, when done like that. But indeed, we'd have 22 * whatever-price-the-freerunner-will-get-at-Pulster + shipping costs... but then we are back at the discussion of how to deal with the warranty. Will Pulster give separate invoices for each of the phones in the pack? --[[User:Madjo|MadJo]]<br />
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{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 02/06} Okay I got an answer from Chris Pulster. I had 2 main questions that he answered and they were 1. Will the pouch and other goodies be included with a group sale as would be if we were to buy in the states. 2. Is a group sale, like in the states, limited to groups of ten or will the discount be for all phones bought in bulk. This is what he had to say:<br />
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about your question: at the moment we dont know about pouch/headsets <br />
included or not. I will tell you a more reliable answer if Freerunners <br />
are in stocks.<br />
my discount system and sales are full flexibel (no ten-pack limitations)<br />
let us talk and we find a nice offer for the dutch OpenMoko community !<br />
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Beste Gruesse aus Leimen,<br />
Christoph Pulster<br />
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We will have to take a look at what the discount will be and if it is worth it considering we will have extra shipping cost in holland.<br />
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If the shipping costs will be too high, i would be willing to pick the phones up myself, if my expenses are covered. We have to figure out further distribution though. {[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 03/06}<br />
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== Canada ==<br />
==== GTA (Toronto) ====<br />
{ --[[User:Argo|Argo]] 03:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC) }<br />
For group 1 it looks like they have actually gotten the 10 orders in? or am I them adding up wrong?<br />
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== Croatia ==<br />
{--[[User:W00t|W00t]] 14:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)} '''ja ne bih da već sada radimo pan-balkansku grupu, iskreno sam iznenađen odazivom do sada, pa jedino možda ako ne skupimo dovoljno ljudi do kraja ovog tjedna...'''<br />
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moj post sa hr.comp.os.linux upućen mnalisu;<br />
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> BTW, ti si zapravo kontaktirao HULK i rekli su ti da bi to oni isli raditi i<br />
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> gnjaviti se sa svim tim, ili ih cisto spominjes onako u smislu "pa oni su<br />
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> dragi ljudi, sigurno ce besplatno uloziti mjesece svog zivota u to u zamjenu<br />
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> za pivu" ?<br />
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Davio sam ih malo zadnja dva dana na IRCu, i prema logu načelno su za<br />
da se narudžbe hendlaju preko njih. A i mislim da se ipak ne radi o<br />
mjesecima života bačenih za pivu, more like možda 2-3 sata za gajbu<br />
ili dvije :), hell ako je toliko teško napravit ću ja sve, učlanit se<br />
u HULK ako treba<br />
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ali do toga trenutka ovako ja razmišljam:<br />
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1.) skupimo 10 zainteresiranih<br />
2.) ja nazovem carinu i agenciju za telekomunikacije<br />
3.) pitamo openmoko za shipping estimate<br />
4.) ako su svi i dalje za, skupljanje sredstava i na kraju narudžba<br />
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dakle ništa nije obligatory, idemo step by step, onog trenutka kada se<br />
prijavi 10 ljudi na wikiju ja zovem nadležne službe, pa ćemo vidit di<br />
stojimo sa uvozom i tim''<br />
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nemoj odmah "worst case scenario" :)<br />
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>> mozda da se malo na elitesecurity.org pokrene rasprava?<br />
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--[[User:W00t|W00t]] 10:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC) svakako, ja sam za<br />
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== Czech Republic ==<br />
Distribuční seznam, základní informace naleznete v [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Czech_Republic GroupSales]<br />
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*[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Diskuze Diskuze]<br />
*[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Dopl.C5.88uj.C3.ADc.C3.AD_informace Doplňující informace]<br />
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=== Diskuze ===<br />
''Martin Holec''> Máme tu 4x ze Zlína, co kdyby někdo jel do Brna pro 4ks a ve Zlíně by se rozdělili?<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> jak jsem psal, já do Zlína jezdívám, a od května do září budu ve Zlíně velmi často, takže se Zlínem není vůbec problém.<br />
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Jinak už se objevily nějaké termíny. Jestli jsem to dobře pochopil, tak 9.5. by už mohla začít masová výroba a brzy na to by měl začít prodej...<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>> Jak by měl vlastně vypadat? Takový ten bíly se mně moc nelíbí. Radši bych měl [http://http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg černý].<br />
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''Michal Pěnka''> Protože jsem jedenáctý a nevím, jestli bude možné objednat 11 kusů nebo jen po desítkách, domluvím se s Tomem Vargou později (jestli by byl ochotný pro převoz do Prahy), každopádně bych také raději ten černý.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>> Jak to tak tady pročítám tak to půjde objednat za zvýhodněnou cenu (+pytlík? a headset) opravdu jenom po desítkách. Ale IMHO když této stránce zvedneme popularitu (případně přiberem Slováky) tak jich budem nakonec brát minimálně dvacet ;) Mně osobně připadá datum 9.5. hodně optimistické.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> FreeRunner bude pouze v jedné barevné variantě, a to černý. To datum 9.5. mám [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates odsud]<br />
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''Pavel Kovář'' >>Nemáte někdo fotku freerunnera ? na wiki jsem zatím našel jenom fotky GTA1-čky<br />
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''David Kozub''>> Jelikoz se vyskytuju ve Zline i v Praze, muzu zajistit prevoz do Prahy.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> No tak například tady to máš dokonce na videu: http://youtube.com/watch?v=k9QLdK6pFCI ;-) Ale jinak i na wiki se povalují fotky FreeRunnera. Například hned ta první na hlavní stránce ;-)<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>> To video je parádní. Co se týče té fotky z úvodu wiki, myslel jsem, že je to jenom render. Jinak jak jsem tak bloudil po stránkách české pošty - nejlevněj to nejspíš vyjde poslat jako profibalík za myslím že 64korun. Za dobírku se něco ještě připlácí. Balík je pojištěný do 100 000. [http://www.cpost.cz:80/jetspeed/portal/media-type/html/user/anon/page/default.psml/js_pane/sluzbyonline%2Czasilky?docid=370&calc_lb0=10424&calc_cb0=1 více zde]<br />
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ad. '''Praha (Čechy):'''<br />
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''Tom Varga''>> Pokoušel jsem se vyčíst z mailing listu, jak je to s tou množstevní slevou - co jsem z toho pochopil, tak by neměl být problém objednat množství nedělitené desíti, ale ty kusy navíc jsou pak [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016432.html bez slevy] a [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016202.html bez bonusu]; pořád by se to ale vyplatilo skrze poštovné. Prozatím bych navrhl, aby se zájemci z Prahy (Čech) zapsali / potvrdili smazáním otazníku v [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distribu%C4%8Dn%C3%AD_sch%C3%A9ma distribučním schématu], možná něco podobného pro Slovensko - momentálně to vypadá, že bude snazší sehnat 20 zájemců celkem a taky by se tím mohla situace trochu vyjasnit. Osobně jsem schopen zajistit dovoz z Brna do Prahy, Liberce, Jablonce n.N. a přilehlých končin. Případné návrhy sem ;)<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>>> Řekl bych že čím větší balík poletí za Ameriky sem tím levněj to vyjde. Pokud není poštovné na gramy. 20-ti zájemců se určitě dočkáme. Když počítám Františka Horínka z Bratislavy tak je nás 18. Co se týče bonusů na headsetu moc nelpím ale ten pytel by se mně vážně hodil. Často v kapse kombinuju mobil a klíče nebo šroubovák...<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>>>> Poštovné samozřejmě není na gramy, ale na libry, neboli každých započatých 0.45 kg se platí, plus se poštovné započítává do cla, mimochodem taková zásilka asi jen tak přes celnici neprojde, takže je možné, že nikdo (příjemce) bude muset dodat na celnici případné dokumenty dokladující hodnotu zasílaného zboží.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''>>>>> Tak dle "platného" celního sazebníku by se clo nemělo platit. Viz [http://disk.jabbim.cz/ivir@jabbim.com/celni_sazebnik.pdf Sazebník] strana 568. Tedy by se hradilo pouze DPH. Aspoň si myslím, že 20 telefonů jako "dárek" asi neprojde.<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>>>>>> No tím lépe, ale tak já to beztak myslel jako celý celní dluh a to dph je právě i z poštovného.<br />
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''Miloslav Machotka''> Koukám že jsem trochu zaspal dění. :) V [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distribu%C4%8Dn%C3%AD_sch%C3%A9ma distribučním schématu] jsem se připsal k Praze. Mám to nejblíž, jsem z Vlašimi, ale jinak jsem pro to schopen dojet i do Brna. Jsem pro to aby se to vyřešilo, pokud možno, po desítkách a pak to rozvést (rozeslat) po Čechách a Slovensku. Bonusy se asi většině lidí hodí.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>>>>>>> DPH musíme taky platit ?? To je mrzuté. Kolik mají DPH slováci ? nevyšlo by to levněj poslat do Bratislavy a stama ''"propašovat"'' k nám ? Když už máme ten šengen... Nevrátí nám třeba amíci DPH které za to zaplatili u nich ?<br />
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''Jan Mareš''>>>>>>>> Co je mi známo, tak při obchodování mimo zemi se DPH neúčtuje a účtuje se až v cílové zemi. Dle rok starého článku na měšci je základní sazba stejná, tj. 19%. Od DPH by to šlo odprostit pouze pokud by na tom balíku bylo napsáno, že se jedná o dárek. Pak se na to daň neuplatní. Jakmile se mi povede najít ustanovení/článek, tak jsem dám odkaz.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> No ono je stále ještě otázkou, odkud to vůbec budou posílat. Protože sem někde viděl informace, že se budou snažit zásobovat Evropu z nějakého centra v Evropě. O tom dárku jsem taky slyšel, ale prej to taky není zaručený způsob. Celníci se do toho můžou podívat, a uvalit na to daň podle vlastního rozhodnutí (prej). Jinak ale je tu ještě možnost, že by nám to někdo dovezl. Nevíte jak to funguje v tom případě?<br />
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''Jan Mareš''>>To centrum v Evropě bylo v plánu avšak levněji jim to vyjde posílání z Ameriky, takže bude k dispozici jen jedno centrum v USA. Ohledně toho dárku jsem doposud četl, že jeho částka nesmí přesáhnout 55€, jinak je normálně proclíván. Při osobním převozu jsou nastaveny limity výše viz [http://www.celnisprava.cz/CmsGrc/Cestovani-a-nakupy/Jak-se-chovat/mimo-eu.htm celní správa].<br />
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''Pavel Kovář'' >>> Kdyby vezl dva tři tak by možná ukecal že je to dárek ale dvacet... clo vem čert to bude nanejvýš 3,5% což není taková pálka. Spíš kdy se to DPH z toho platí ? Hned na celnici nebo musím podat něco jako daňové přiznání ?<br />
* No tak zatím jsem zjistil že nejspíš jediná šance jak se osvobodit od cla a DPH je že všeci sedem do letadla a zajedem si pro to. Limit je 6000kč na jednu osobu starší 15-ti let.<br />
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''Jan Mares''>>>> Clo se na tento druh zboží nevztahuje. Platí se pouze české DPH, který ti celníci vyměří z ''ceny zboží + doprava + clo'', pak ti v případě fyzické osoby zašlou na tvou poštu, kde uhradíš DPH jako dobírku. U podnikatele je to trošku jiné. VAT (čili americké DPH) na zboží nebude uvaleno, jelikož zboží je vyváženo z USA.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> No a dá se tohle spočítat předem? Abysme mohli stanovit cenu?<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>> No dokud nebude jasne kolik bude stat postovne (typ + vaha) a jaky bude kurs dolaru, tak presna cena asi tezko.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>>No co. Tak ti každý pošlem sedm tisíc s tím, že potom přebytky rozdělíš do obálek a budeš předávat s každým telefonem obálku. Jinak to asi dost dobře nepůjde. Jedině že by nám to sem dopravila česká pobočka FIC-u/foxconn. Ale to je podle mně nepravděpodobné.<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>>>JJ take myslim, ze bych dal predbeznou cenu 7K s tim, ze uz je poslem, at muzes pruzne zareagovat a ne pak cekat az vsichni poslou.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>>>> Kdyby se zase Steve nebo někdo vyjádřil v jakém je to stavu a přidal předběžný odhad kdy se začne prodávat. Teďka je to těžko. Můžou ho vydat zítra ale taky třeba i za půl roku pokud se objeví nějaký složitý problém.<br />
Ještě k té předběžné ceně - dolar není za 15 korun ale za 16,1-16,2 korun I s DPH se do těch 7000 nespíš nevejdem. Jestli že se domluvíme žo začnem posílat peníze tak navrhuju posílat 7500. IMHO dolar už níž nepůjde.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Co jsem se zatím díval na možnosti přepravy (DHL,Fedex,UPS,USPS), tak nejvýhodněji vychází USPS ([http://www.usps.com/ usps.com]), kdy se pohybujeme kolem částky 120$ i s pojištěním (kdyby to bylo cca 10kg což pochybuji). Bohužel maximální pojištění činí 5 000$, přičemž celková částka balíku vychází na cca 7 580$ . U ostatních jsem ohledně pojištění nenašel zmínku, přičemž poštovné vycházelo většinou přes 500$. Z pohledu pojištění by bylo vhodné objednávky rozdělit. Ještě bude záležet jaké poštovní služby nabídnou v e-shopu. Včera u ČSOB byla prodejní cena dolaru na 16,44Kč/$ a musím bohužel souhlasit, že lepší to už nebude. Jinak ceník je k dispozici na této adrese [http://pe.usps.com/text/Imm/ce_019.htm#ep1419781 http://pe.usps.com/text/Imm/ce_019.htm#ep1419781] .<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''> Teď mně napadlo - co kdyby jsem někde založili učet (nejlépe spořící) v dolarech a poslali to tam teď ? [http://www.mesec.cz/clanky/ucet-v-cizi-mene-ano-ale-kde/] Kdyby tak člověk věděl že pozítru neoznámí prodej...<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>>>>> Tak urcite bych pockal s placenim na nejake jistejsi vyjadreni, ale necekal bych na otevreni kramu, tehdy uz by chtelo, aby se to dalo hned objednat, co se tyka uctu neverim, ze dolar spadne, ale ani ze poroste a tak bych to neresil.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Vzhledem k množství objednávaného zboží bych možná už využil dopravních společností, které za nás provedou celní odbavení. Aspoň metodický pokyny k vyplnění JSD (jednotný správní doklad) nejsou triviální a zabere to minimálně půlden. Ukázku dokumentu jsme nalezl zde: [http://www.sevt.cz/produkt/jsd-18430-tranzit-60842500/ http://www.sevt.cz/produkt/jsd-18430-tranzit-60842500/].<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>> Dole v tom dopisu z celního úřadu se píše: "který má příslušné oprávnění pro hospodářskou nebo<br />
obchodní činnost" to nikdo z nás má?<br />
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''Michal Bořek'' >> '''[http://www.trisoft.de/en_freerunner.htm Evropský Distributor]''', ale je celkem dražší.<br />
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''Radek Machulka'' > Což o to, [http://www.pulster.de/ tady] je o 50 euro levnější, ale nemyslím si, že to bude ve výsledku výhodnější.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''>>> Co jsem se díval do pokynů, tak to může vyplnit i fyzická osoba, jelikož každý způsobilý občan může provést obchodní činnost. Pouze nesmí být opakovaného rázu, tj. jednorázové obchody. Zkusím se tedy dotázat konkrétněji na tuto část. Ohledně toho evropského distributora nevím. Odhadem to vychází přes 1000 Kč dráž bez poštovného a bez bonusů. Jestliže se nám poradí vyřešit problém s celním úřadem, tak bych spíše volil objednávku z USA. Připadá mi, že tyhle obchody to jen objednají v USA, přijmou a přepošlou s přirážkou.<br />
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''Michal Bořek'' >>>> Take jsem pro USA, jen sem to nasel a ac ten od Radka Machulky je uz zajimavejsi tak verim, ze se dostanem i pod nej a jeste je tam ten obal a sluchatka.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''> Já jsem též pro USA. Ještě by bylo možné (teoreticky) zkusit si to objednat přes nějakého (mešího) obchodníka co bere věci od FIC-u<br />
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''Michal Bořek''> Tož sem [[GroupSales#Aktu.C3.A1ln.C4.9B|vyhlásil konkurz]] na koordinátora pražské větve a snad se najde někdo kdo je schopen se vejít do těch zásadních bodů co jsem tam nastínil.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Relativně požadavky splňuji. Mám studentský ČSOB účet mající limit na 1,5M, kartu Visa Classic, angličtinu zvládám na úrovni čtení technické dokumentace, bydlím na Barrandově a jabber též mám (ivir@jabbim.com). Jen tu důvěryhodnost nemám. :) S tím clem to bude ještě zajímavé, ale snad mi ohledně toho ještě poradí z celního úřadu. V nouzi mám k dispozici i OSVČ. :)<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Dle [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017531.html příspěvku] bude dovoz zboží do USA zahájen někdy 1.června. K tomu je nutné připočítat min. týden až 3 než zboží dorazí do skladů. Z příspěvku teoreticky vyplývá, že bude i evropský HUB. Snad to bude za stejnou částku a s bonusy. :)<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>Podle [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017607.html příspěvku] by měl webový shop odkazovat na us i eu a to vypadá čím dál nadějnějš co se týká poštovného aj cla.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář'' jestli to dobře překládám tak není jasné jakým způsobem to půjde z činy - jestli lodí nebo letadlem ?<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Ano, aspoň takto jsem to pochopil i já. Problémem je ta doba dodání. Jinak co se týká vyřízení JSD (cla), tak u zprostředkovatele [http://www.kama-eu.cz/ KAMA s.r.o.>, jež mi doporučil celní úřad, vychází na cca 1000 Kč viz ceník, což mi připadá přijatelné.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> No mně ty informace od Steva přijdou vždycky nějaké zmatené. Nevědí jestli lodí nebo letadlem, ale odejít by to snad mělo až 1.6. (nebo co má znamenat to datum, v jeho zprávě), takže to ještě docela potrvá... :-(<br />
Jan Mareš: můžeš prosím popsat co přesně má být těch 1000Kč a jak se na to přijde? Já tomu pořád nějak nerozumím...<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>> <font color="gray">best case is I would start to test phones around the first of june. Then<br />
pack and ship.<br />
</font>1.6. začíná testovat telefony a potm je balit a odesílat.<br><br />
<font color=gray>The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you<br />
build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says.<br />
"good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on the<br />
test software, because that bad phone really was good." arrg.</font> Ale toto nějak moc nechápu.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Vychází to takto: 250 Kč (vypracování JSD), 30 Kč (vypracování hodnoty), 250 Kč (jednani za deklaranta), 30 Kč (avízo) a pak asi ručení (350). Je to můj odhad a po konkrétním dotaze by měli sdělit částku. Asi tedy bude třeba připočítat poštovné (250 Kč). Zatím jsem jim napsal dotaz ohledně nepodnikající osoby s tímto množstvím, tak jsem zvědav kdy odpoví.<br />
Tu další část považuji za povzdychnutí, kdy jim vyrobili více telefonů z nichž jen část prošla a továrna chce tohle číslo minimalizovat a že dané chyby byly spíše SW povahy.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář'' Podle toho co píšeš bych řekl že by vyšlo levněj kdyby jsme brali všechny telefony dohromady.Jaké má výhody osamostatnění Prahy ?<br />
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''Michal Bořek'' No nedokazeme pojistit 30telefonu na jejich cenu pri doprave, ale jinak pokud by to clo vyrizovala firma asi by to bylo vyhodnejsi.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Trochu mě znepokojují zprávy v community e-mail archivu, kde uvádějí, že openmoko e-shop využívá služeb UPS. U nich by nebyl problém s pojištěním, ale ty ceny. Cena je de facto konstantní na cca 600$ (při 10kg balíčku), takže pak by bylo vhodné objednávku shrnout dohromady. Pak by to vycházelo o cca 10$ na hlavu více. Snažím se přesvědčit otce jako OSVČ, že by byla objednávka napsaná na něj a tím pádem by odpadl problém s využitím výše uvedené společnosti od nichž jsem dostal zamítavé stanovisko ohledně "neobchodní zásilky".<br />
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Pak už zbývá využít evropského distributora Pulster.de . Teoreticky mi vychází částka při dovozu z US na 7600 Kč a u Pulsteru na 7 660Kč bez poštovné. Avšak za předpokladu společné hromadné objednávky. V opačném případě je nutné připočíst u US objednávky cca tisícovku (při 10 lidech).<br />
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Zapomněl jsem tedy dodat, že zboží by bylo v republice za 4-5 dnů + pár dnů na vyřízení celního řízení.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> veškeré spekulace jsou zatím velmi předběžné, protože ani sami prodejci ještě nemají jasno, za jakých podmínek budou FreeRunner prodávat. Každopádně Pulster se mi docela zamlouvá (viz níže), vypadá že s panem majitelem se dá rozumně domluvit. Asi mu řeknu že objednávám telefonů 40, aby byl kdyžtak ochoten větší slevy nebo nějakého zvýhodnění a nechám tu zásilku jenom rozdělit a poslat do Prahy a sobě... Ale jak říkám, pořád ještě je všechno předběžné, definitivně se rozhodne asi už během tohoto měsíce.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> Ještě jedna novinka: pan Christoph Pulster z pulster.de mně oznámil zahájení prodeje debug boardu za "lidovou" cenu 149€ což je docela rozdíl oproti 99$... Takže jak říkám, všechno jsou teď jenom teoretické úvahy jak objednávku zorganizovat. Ikdyž osobně dávám pulster.de naděje, myslím, že se na ceně jak debugboardu, tak telefonu, bude dát domluvit, stejně jako nulová cena za dopravu zní přijatelně :-)<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''> Pražáků je docela nešťastý počet. Jediné co mně napadá je pokusit se domluvit s Plusterem že by vzal 4 desítky z toho nám přeposlal těch 34 a zbytek by si nechal a prodal. A taky chci poděkovat Martinu Šenkeříkovi za to že se o nás tak stará.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''>Tak je otázkou jak vlastně Pulster bude fungovat. Jako evropský distributor by měl od openmoko odbržet třeba 500ks (na dluh), které pak prodává. Z tohoto pohledu je jedno jaký počet telefonů se objedná. Pochybuji, že ta distribuce je založena na tom, že mi mu zaplatíme a on to objedná z US skladu. Pak by se určitě lépe hodil nákup přímo z US, kdy skrze UPS by se vyřídily všechny formality s celním úřadem. Rozhodující je konečná cena u Pulsteru.<br />
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''Radek Machulka'' > Tak to vypada, ze si budeme moci vybrat: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-June/019117.html list]<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Žel s ohledem na co nejnižší cenu jsou oba distributori mimo hru, kdy se pohybujeme s cenou kolem 8 700Kč, což je hnedle o tisícikorunu více než při objednání z US. Doufejme, že Pulster nahodí lepší cenu.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář'' > To je mrzuté. Vypadá to, že se všichni distributoři rozhodli, že si na tom namastí kapsu a spoléhají na to, že nic podobného neexistuje a že je to novinka...<br />
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''Michal Bořek'' >> Podle té dvojnásobné ceny debug boardu se dá soudit, že nám nic jiného než US nezbude,tyhle EU distributoři jsou fakt jen zlatokopové.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář'' >>> Doufám že je amíci nezančou dorovnávat.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík'' > Jak jsem už několikrát psal, na jakékoliv spekulace je pořád brzo, situace se stále vyvíjí -> pulster dnes debugboard oficiálně slevnil na 99€. Takže ještě pořád není rozhodnuto. Prostě počkáme s čím kdo přijde (případně distributory trošku nakopnu sám :-)). "Amíci" je rozhodně dorovnávat nezačnou, když od "amíků" to ti Evropští distributoři objednávají ;-)<br />
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=== Doplňující informace ===<br />
* '''Vyjádření Pulster.de na objednávku většího množství telefonů:'''<br />
Hello,<br />
<br />
on OpenMoko wiki they announced: "Every 10 pack, will come with<br />
a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets." Will this offer<br />
also be available in your shop? Some discount and bonus gadgets?<br />
I already want to order 20-30 phones to Czech Republic, so I am<br />
trying to find the best way, how to order this amount. Either<br />
from USA or from EU.<br />
<br />
Thank you, Martin Senkerik<br />
<br />
Hello,<br />
<br />
thanks a lot for asking. Right now we dont have Freerunner in<br />
stock, so no idea about earphones/pouches, sorry.<br />
I am happy to provide Czech users with OpenMokos. No customs,<br />
no paperwork, I have a lot CZ customers.<br />
Allow me to put you on the info list once it is avalaible and you<br />
get clear infos about all. We can work out free shipping and <br />
maybe some goodies.<br />
<br />
<br />
heres the standard info text:<br />
<br />
The new modell is called "Freerunner" (version GTA02).<br />
It will be available end of June 2008. We try to aim 300-350 EUR<br />
sales price.<br />
Once it's ready to ship, you willfind it in our shop.<br />
We do not make pre-orders of items we dont have in hands,<br />
so please understand. Once the Freerunner is in stock, ready to<br />
ship, we will send you a one-time info mail (we do not send<br />
you any spam, dont worry).<br />
<br />
Of course we are happy you bookmark us and come back to check<br />
for the nice Freerunner. Please find a small datasheet here:<br />
http://www.pulster.de/info/pdas/openmoko/freerunner-flyer.pdf<br />
<br />
<br />
Beste Gruesse aus Leimen,<br />
Christoph Pulster<br />
<br />
* '''Moje komunikace s pobočkou FIC v ČR:'''<br />
Dobrý den,<br />
<br />
Taiwanský FIC v nejbližších dnech začne s prodejem mobilního telefonu<br />
Neo FreeRunner (www.openmoko.com). Chci se zeptat, jestli bude možné případné<br />
reklamace a opravy řešit u vás?<br />
<br />
Zatím není známý přesný způsob distribuce tohoto telefonu pro Evropu<br />
a Českou republiku. Nebude vaše pobočka zapojena do distribuční sítě?<br />
<br />
Děkuji za odpověď, Martin Šenkeřík<br />
Odpověď:<br />
Dobrý den,<br />
<br />
FIC CZ s.r.o. v těchto měsících přechází pod Foxconn CZ.<br />
V případě reklamace či informací se obracejte přímo na FIC TW.<br />
Kontaktní osobou na Zákaznickém oddělení je<br />
<br />
Mr. James Chang<br />
Customer Service Department<br />
Te.: +886 2 8751 8751 ext.6196<br />
James_chang@fic.com.tw<br />
<br />
S pozdravem<br />
<br />
Jarka Ripplova<br />
<br />
* '''Dotaz na celní úřad ohledně zpracování zásilky:'''<br />
Věc: Informace<br />
<br />
K Vaší žádosti o informaci týkající se hromadného dovozu zásilky pro osobní<br />
potřebu více příjemců Vám sdělujeme:<br />
<br />
Za zásilku zboží neobchodní povahy se ve smyslu celních předpisů považují<br />
zásilky, které jsou dováženy příležitostně a které obsahují výhradně zboží<br />
určené k osobnímu užití příjemců nebo jejich rodin, přičemž toto zboží nesmí<br />
povahou ani množstvím svědčit o obchodním úmyslu dovozce. Z uvedeného<br />
vyplývá, že tzv. sběrná zásilka nemůže být považována za zásilku zboží<br />
neobchodní povahy, i když obsah je určen pro osobní potřebu soukromých osob.<br />
Při dovozu zásilky obchodní povahy je zásilka zadržena při vstupu na celní<br />
území EU a příjemce vyzván k předložení celního prohlášení. Celní formality<br />
uskutečňuje příjemce, který má příslušné oprávnění pro hospodářskou nebo<br />
obchodní činnost.<br />
<br />
Pro zboží zařazené v některé z podpoložek čísla 8517 je celním sazebníkem EU<br />
stanovena sazba cla 0 %. Při dovozu zásilky zboží obchodního charakteru<br />
celní orgány posuzují, zda zboží nepodléhá zvláštnímu řízení podle zákona č.<br />
38/1994 Sb., o zahraničním obchodu s vojenským materiálem. Vedle cla se při<br />
propuštění dovezeného zboží do volného oběhu v tuzemsku vyměřuje DPH v<br />
základní sazbě 19 %. Základem pro vyměření DPH je cena, za kterou bylo zboží<br />
prodáno do EU, ke které se přičtou náklady na dopravu zásilky do EU, podle<br />
příslušných ustanovení zákona o DPH.<br />
<br />
Celní dluh, jehož součástí je i DPH, se vyměří v českých korunách z celní<br />
hodnoty převedené na české koruny v kurzu platném pro příslušné období.<br />
Aktuální kurzy měn jsou uveřejněny na stránkách Celní správy České republiky<br />
www.cs.mfcr.cz cestou Servis - Kurzovní lístky.<br />
<br />
== To open Colombia groupsales ==<br />
<br />
I wan to open the Colombia-Bogotá group sales.<br />
I want Neo advanced, no matter if the rest of the people wants the other.<br />
my mail: arawaco@ieee.org<br />
Ideas are welcome</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Group_salesTalk:Group sales2008-06-14T17:09:00Z<p>Arw: /* To open Colombia groupsales */ new section</p>
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== England ==<br />
=== [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Oxford Oxford] ===<br />
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{[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Tim Coggins] 27/04}<br />
It seems apparent from the London group that there will not be 10 people in Oxford who initially want a Freerunner. Therefore I suggest one person gets an 10 pack shipped to them (to save on price, shipping and to get the goodies!) and then mails them individually across the UK. I am willing to make the order and mail the phones if we can find a way to ensure all parties interests are secure (ie. no one is going to get ripped off or left with Neo's they don't need). Has anyone got any ideas of how this could work?<br />
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:It may make sense, depending on numbers, to combine fractional 10s from several places (e.g. Hants, Oxford, West Mids). I would suggest waiting until orders are going to go in, and then shifting people around to their nearest regional organiser to make up a 10.<br />
:Regarding security and trust of the transactions -- it's down to public reputations, I think. I'm organising the Hampshire one, and I've been active in the local Linux Users Group for years, so I know most of the people on our list, and they know that I'm pretty unlikely to run off to Patagonia with their money. I'd guess it's up to each organiser to come to an agreement with each purchaser that both are happy with. [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] 14:08, 28 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
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It's barking to think that - outside of London - there are likely to be as many as 10 people who want Freerunners and who are all within 30 or 45 minutes drive of each other. It's quite obvious, IMO, that postage will be required. See the "security of payments" subsection I've just added below. [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 18:07, 28 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
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:Well, we've got 10 people for Hampshire already... [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] 18:37, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
::Well, an active LUG is going to make all the difference. [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 21:41, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
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==== UK Group Sales and shipping - security of payments ====<br />
<br />
I'm prepared to pay up front for my Freerunner - at least 50% of the price, anyway - to someone with a decent reputation. Basically, if you've been posting on usenet or Linux-centric mailing-lists or web-forums for years then that's good enough for me. For instance uk.adverts.computers has always worked on the assumption of trusting the seller and paying up front - I've never been ripped off, and scammers are always identified quite quickly; obviously this identification was at the cost of at least one buyer, so in this case of an order of ten Freerunners we need some form of reputation in order to avoid that. Does the group buyer have lots of eBay feedback?<br />
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I believe that a 50% up-front payment largely solves the trust problem. What's the consensus?<br />
<br />
In principle I'd be prepared to make the group order & post onwards (or allow collection - I'm about 5 minutes from M1 Junction 14, halfway between London & Birmingham), with the expectation of a 50% up-front payment. However cash is very tight at the moment, and I don't know that I'll be able to front the other 50%. I do have a decent online reputation, and I've been posting in Gentoo-user and on other mailing-lists for years. I can probably find at least one or two people who know me from these postings and who have visited my house or my father's socially or to pick up a secondhand LaserJet, but probably someone who has been active in a local LUG might be considered to have a better reputation. [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 18:07, 28 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
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{[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/sonicated Tim Coggins] 29/04} With the 50% up front model I would be concerned that once I have sent the phones out that someone would be so happy with their Neo that they might forget to give me the other 50%. What would I do if someone claimed their box was empty? Thinking about all these edge cases makes me think I might be better with a reseller and my Amex :(<br />
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:I wouldn't want to cover 50% of the price up front for even a single 10-pack. However, I've been a good member of HantsLUG for 9 or so years, I've run it for two, and I'm currently one of the team running lug.org.uk, so I've probably got a reasonable online reputation. [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] 18:37, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
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:Sorry - I was thinking 50% when the order's placed with OpenMoko, the other 50% when the Freerunners arrive in the UK (cash on collection or cleared funds before shipping onwards). The person making the order should be the "most trustworthy" - it's easier for everyone else to "audit" him than for him to have to worry about any one of the other 9 buyers stiffing him. But having said all that, I wouldn't have any worries about paying 100% up-front to someone like [[User:Darksatanic|Darksatanic]] - [mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk let me know] if someone drops out of your group, mate (assuming you're happy to Special Delivery onwards to me). [[User:Strolls|Strolls]] 21:50, 29 April 2008 (CEST)<br />
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== [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#The_Netherlands The Netherlands] ==<br />
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Discuss possible ways how to deal with the distribution in The Netherlands.<br />
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{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 19/04} I received an idea from [[User:Jan de Haan]]. We could try to find a distributor/importer, and approach that person with the question of doing the importing for us. Sadly I don't know anyone in that business, so I have no idea how to go about contacting someone like that.<br />
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{[[User:Tjikkun|Sander Hoentjen]] 19/04} I might be able to help out here, next Tuesday I will talk with my ex-employer and ask if he has any ideas. (Their business is helping US companies establish market in Europe)<br />
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{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 19/04}Please do. And keep us informed. Would be great if we can get this off the ground.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 19/04}Agree. For the record: the reason we are looking for a professional business to organize this for us is the inability of any person to front the money for 10 Freerunners, an amount of money ($6000,-) that almost everybody gives the hickups. So we're looking for a business that can buy us the 10 phones with the discount with the guaranteed sale of them. I've done business with sallandautomatisering (Am _not_ affiliated with them in any way) and they showed definite interest. So if Sander's way does not work, I suggest we contact them.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 20/04} Jan, the Freerunner is cheaper than that. In group sale we're probably looking at a figure of 'just' $3690 (ex shipping, and probably other costs.) And otherwise it's $399 per sold phone (again excluding shipping costs and probably also import fees)<br />
BTW it would be good if the people interested in getting a Neo in this group sale also add contact information, so that people can be notified, if you haven't done so already. Out of 11, we're only able to contact 8, at the moment.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 20/04} The $6000 was 10x the price for the first hardware version for sale with the debug option. Btw, I'm definitely interested in the debug version, although that is sold as a separte packge. Source http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015080.html (Thanks, Marcel. ;-) )<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 20/04} I have notified 9 people on the Dutch list about this page. The other two I have no way of contacting at the moment. Let's hope they read the community mailing list. :)<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 20/04} Yorick at this point, I'm not sure. I'm not an importer myself, just someone who is eager to get his grubby hands on a Neo. :) BTW, you could start a similar discussion on it for Belgians right here as well. Just add it to the page here. Just make a separate section on this page. :)<br />
<br />
{[[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] 20/04} I was thinking that, in the case finding someone willing to do the importing in the Netherlands would fail, we maybe could join such an initiative abroad.<br />
@Jan de Haan: I think asking sallandautomatisering will do no harm.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]] 21/04} I can help oragnise the importing. This is something I do in my business but<br />
have very little time available. So we need to be superefficient with information and of course financial arrangements. Feel free to mail me eric _at_ fruitcom.com.<br />
<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 21/04}<br />
<br />
<br />
Gepost via: http://salland.eu/content/mysalland/mail_contact.php<br />
onder subject: E-mailcontact - Product Management artikel toevoegen<br />
<br />
Hier kunt u artikelen opgeven, die nog niet in het assortiment van <br />
Salland Automatisering voorkomen, maar die u wel door ons geleverd <br />
zou willen zien worden.<br />
Wees svp zo compleet mogelijk met het verstrekken van informatie <br />
over het te leveren artikel.<br />
<br />
Uw naam J. de Haan<br />
Uw e-mailadres [[Special:Emailuser/User:Jan de Haan|Contact]]<br />
Artikelinformatie<br />
Merk openmoko<br />
Naam freerunner<br />
Website openmoko.com<br />
<br />
L.S.,<br />
<br />
wij (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands) proberen <br />
als groep minstens 10 openmoko/freerunner toestellen te verkrijgen a E369,- voor <br />
de groepskorting. Bent u geintereseerd om dit voor ons te realiseren?<br />
<br />
Hoogachtend,<br />
<br />
J. de Haan.<br />
<br />
PS Reactie kan via mijn email adres of via de bovengenoemde pagina, deze mail <br />
wordt daar ook gepost.<br />
<br />
E-mailcontact - verzonden<br />
Uw bericht is ontvangen en wordt zo spoedig mogelijk behandeld.<br />
<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 22/04} Thanks Jan. I hope this will work, I'm just afraid, we're going to need more people to make it viable for those stores to import it. But I see that they use a .eu domain, so if they also sell stuff over the border, I don't think it to be too hard to drum up some support from the other European groups. That way we can make a bigger market to offset those import costs for the retailer.<br />
BTW, I replaced your email address in that email, with something more spam-proof. ;)<br />
<br />
{[[User:Tjikkun|Sander Hoentjen]] 22/04} I had no luck with my ex-employer unfortunately. A comment about the Salland Automatisering letter though: You are talking about a E369,-, is that the price in Euro you are thinking about? ATM 369.00 USD = 231.037 EUR, shipping and taxes will be applied, anybody knows what the price will be for us taken that into account? How much money can a company make out of it, in order for us to still buy? I don't think a company will do it for free, but maybe they will do it for just the publicity, that can be good for them of course.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 22/04} If I had to ballpark it, I'd say aim at around 350, anything below it would be great. I'm not sure what the shipping costs/import costs would come at. I think, looking at other consumer electronic prices in the US and Europe, it's a safe bet (lots of appliances have about the same number behind the currency symbol, whether it is $ or euro)<br />
And the $369 and $399 are still estimates, at least if I read Steve's mail correctly.<br />
<br />
{[[User:AVee|Arjan Veenstra]] 20/04} Personally I wouldn't mind doing this through a private person, as long as things are properly documented (e.g. there is proof when things go wrong). That will mean having to pay in advance, but I doubt anyone of us would bother to run off with $4000. A 5 lines 'contract' is probably enough to make sure you get your money back when the Freerunner don't show up. But then, i'll just go along with the rest of you.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Tjikkun|Sander Hoentjen]] 23/04} Through a private person is also fine by me, the only problem I see is getting a proper invoice. This might come in handy when there is a problem with the phone, for which you have insurance, like I do.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 23/04} Indeed, I'd like to get an invoice as well. If Openmoko would add a separate invoice for each of the ten phones in the box, so that everyone can use that for their warranty/administration. I don't see many problems with going through a private person. We could even make it a meet at a central location, ;) to hand out the phones, to make sure that everyone gets his/her phone.<br />
<br />
<br />
{[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]] 23/04} I like the idea to have Openmoko invoice each of the group separately, if that does not<br />
kill their bulk buy offer. I am happy to go along with the proposal and send advances to someone in the group to consolidate the purchase. I work in importing so any help you need, please ask.<br />
<br />
{[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]] 24/04} Going through one person is fine with me. I'll happily pre-pay and get my phone handed out <br />
on Utrecht CS :-)<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 23/04} Update: I'm still talking with sallandautomatisering, but cannot update untill a conclusion has been reached. Sorry. But hey, at least they are talking ;-) You'll have to trust me on that. If people don't, I can talk to one other person on this list in confidence, but you got to have a little patience for the moment. As another opportunity: can somebody take a look at [http://www.trisoft.de/] and give an opinion? Two possibilities arise from this: we take our business there as a group or ask a Dutch reseller to import from there.<br />
<br />
{[[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]] 23/04} Thank you for your work on Sallandautomatisering. I followed your pointer to Trisoft and was reminded of another shop: [http://www.pulster.de/index.htm?d__freerunner___b_OpenMoko_Freerunner_299_eur__b_972.htm] I don't know if they continue with importing Openmoko. I will keep an eye on them.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 23/04} And there is [http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner Handheld-linux.com], who seem eager to offer the Neo Freerunner as well. Just no Dutch stores (yet) :) Jan, I trust you. Keep up the good work.<br />
<br />
{[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 25/04} Maybe the people over at [http://www.mingos.nl/ Mingos] are willing to help out. They call themselves an IT Specialist in free software.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]] 25/04} I Why do we not import the consignment ourselves? What are the disadvantages. I could organise and/or provide the information to someone else in the group. What is the reason that we want to put our business through a dealer?<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 25/04} I think the biggest hurdle would be the invoice, warranty-wise. But I don't mind if one of us imports it, and then distributes it. Through a meet-up of some sorts would be great. A great way to get a community feel. :)<br />
You say you have experience with importing goods, Eric. Do you know what sorts of extra costs we have to keep in mind? Sales tax? Import costs? VAT? <br /><br />
Another could-be problem is with the amount of phones currently on the 'group sales list'. Currently we are at 16. Group sales are in increments of 10. So the importer could be stuck with 4 unsold phones (which of course could get sold on ebay, but it's an upfront investment in that case, with some insecurity for the importer), or 6 could get stuck with a higher expense (because they don't benefit from the group sale discount).<br />
<br />
{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 25/04} Going through a reseller you should take in mind if that party is willing to do it without taking a (large) profit. One person (doesn't have to be a business) can contact OM and ask them if the order is bigger then 10 (but not an increment of 10) the discount would still be valid per Freerunner. Or maybe one of the german resellers would give the same discount if an order above 10 pieces at once was given and send to one central person. You'd pay german VAT but that doesn't matter you would have to pay dutch VAT if you import it directly from OM. Just my 2 cents. A reseller in Holland has to ask for VAT either way as well so...<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 25/04} A similar question was asked on the mailing list, and [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015188.html Steve from openmoko] came back and told us, that "{t}here will be two products. Buy 1 OR buy 10.{...} So, if you wanted 11 you would buy a 10 +1." <br />
It could be that that's changed. But I kinda doubt that. Well, ok, yes, VAT is needed. But I was kinda looking for a list of extra costs to keep in mind, when importing goods on this scale. Does customs take a fee, or something.<br />
<br />
{[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]] 25/04} Customs _sometimes_ lets packages go through without VAT, but not always. If it isn't clearly labeled they guess what's in there and tax you on it. Also, indeed, Steve said that 10+6 is out. By the way, you'll need to 'sell' 9 of the 10 phones to break even, be careful ordering 20 and selling 16! Buying 16 (10+6) and sharing the costs would bring it to $369 instead of $349 per phone.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 25/04} Not to nitpick, but the price is already $369 per phone in the 10 pack. But you do have a point. Though I think you can easily sell those off via ebay or marktplaats or any of the other online auction sites. Too bad it isn't out yet. Would have been great to have a box them and stand in Amsterdam during Queensday, selling the phones. ;)<br />
<br />
{[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 26/04} I see we are at 17 already. Let's just try to get to 20 for the Netherlands. If we have that amount i am willing to import the phones for the group order, but i think we just should pay normal tax etc. and not try to avoid that by taking the chance the customs won't notice our package.<br />
<br />
{[[User:PingPong|Peter Hageman]] 26/04 10:00} Before the Freerunner hits the streets we will have 30 or more people joining. The price of the Freerunner won't drop with 20 or 30, but the shipping costs might.<br />
<br />
{[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]] 27/04} (I cut out a lot of somehow duplicated comments. If anyone misses anthing, I appologise for the inconvenience) I agree with Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof about not willing to avoid taxes. Neither do I, but it happend, sometimes. If you are willing to import phones for us, that would be wonderful. Thanks!<br />
<br />
{[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 28/04} Guys, I thank all of you for working on this issue. Unfortunately I cannot add anything valuable to this. I'll happily join Christ while picking up the phone at Utrecht CS. :-)<br />
<br />
{[[User:AVee|Arjan Veenstra]] 28/04} Shipping costs are, reading from comments on the community list, around $16 per piece for the 10pack. We might save some more ordering 20 or 30 at once, but we could consider placing seperate orders and have these delivered at more convinient places. (We migth, depending on the numbers, even mix and match with the guys in [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Belgium Belgium]. Perhaps for some Antwerp is closer then Utrecht...)<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 28/04} Just commenting to add [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html this link] to Steve's message to the mailing list, with an estimation of the UPS shipping costs. (For us, it is a bit more expensive, but the UPS website isn't exactly cooperating with me. If someone else could look it up. The number I got for expedited delivery was 170.94 USD, for the 10-pack, and 184.20 for UPS Worldwide Express, but I'm not entirely sure if that number is correct. Somehow the site demanded I enter in the dimensions in (rounded up) inches. So those are estimates.<br />
But my take is that it's probably wise to use the expedited, because the delivery date is in all options about the same, with one difference: Express is delivered before noon, and Expedited before the end of the day.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 29/04} Hi All. I'm sorry, but the dealer I was talking with, is not interested:<br />
<br />
Geachte heer,<br />
<br />
Ik heb gekeken naar de site Trisoft.de<br />
<br />
Ik vrees dat het voor ons niet interessant is om hier zaken mee te doen. Wellicht dat u zelf kunt bestellen bij Trisoft.de<br />
<br />
Wat ik heb gezien is dat er geen KvK of BTW nummers zijn en gewoon als particulier het e.e.a. geregeld kan worden.<br />
<br />
Met vriendelijke groet,<br />
<br />
Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx<br />
Product Management / Technical Support<br />
<br />
Salland Automatisering<br />
<br />
Maybe we should take their advice and order through trisoft. Anybody know anything about them? If we can pick them up ourselves (for me a 3 hours drive) we might be able do it. Main problem will be to front the money.<br />
<br />
{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 29/04} I think, reading the mail list, that 10 packs need to be ordered from the US so Trisoft is not an option I think. 1 Entity should order the 10 pack(s) and then distribute them to the other people. I could ask around maybe someone I know can be the central entity.<br />
<br />
{[[User:EdbO|Eddy Boer]] 29/04} @Jan de Haan: Maybe you can try Azerty (www.azerty.nl). The people who founded Salland Automatisering have started that new company some years ago.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 29/04} But then point them to Openmoko.com/.org, because that's AFAIK the only way of getting the group discount, give them the link to the mailing list post. <br /><br />
But I think right now the best way is to have one or two people place the group order, and distribute it from that central location, either through the mail or through a meeting. (The latter has my preference)<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 29/04} Ok, following mail is on it's way to azerty. Sorry Madjo, sent before I saw your comment.<br />
from Jan de Haan <haan.j.de@gmail.com><br />
to inkoop@azerty.nl,<br />
date Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM<br />
subject Openmoko - Freerunner<br />
mailed-by gmail.com<br />
<br />
hide details 8:52 PM (0 minutes ago)<br />
<br />
L.S.,<br />
<br />
wij (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#The_Netherlands) proberen<br />
als groep minstens 10 openmoko/freerunner toestellen te verkrijgen a E369,- voor<br />
de groepskorting. Bent u geintereseerd om dit voor ons te realiseren?<br />
Een importeur schijnt trisoft.de te zijn. Let wel: dit product is<br />
nog niet op de markt,<br />
al zijn de laatste test productie runs klaar.<br />
<br />
Hoogachtend,<br />
<br />
J. de Haan.<br />
<br />
PS Reactie kan via mijn email adres of via de bovengenoemde pagina, deze mail<br />
wordt daar ook gepost.<br />
<br />
{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 29/04} Hi again, had a talk and we, OpenSource Nieuws Nederland would be willing to be that one entity who places that order in the US. There are a lot of things that would have to be worked out and costs have to be calculated but we would be willing to help and organize this with your help. There should be a page were people could signup once the price is known (first in first out untill a 10 pack is filled) and all would have to be paid in advance before ordering because we can't pay that amount of money in advance. Let me know if this is an idea or that you rather have an hardware reseller handle, is also cool, just let me know. OSNN is a company with a VAT number and if we will invoice individually but will not do waranty, if you want that then you need to order with trisoft or an other company. Warranty on the 10 pack is still a thing that needs to be answered on the list I think.<br />
<br />
{[[User:EdbO|Eddy Boer]] 30/04} I have also found a company who is interesting to help us. They don't sell hardware but woodworking machines, and they use opensource software as much as possible. We have talked about it and they want to buy the phones at Trisoft due to the warranty, but when you don't worry about warranty ...... Al the phones they buy should be already sold to you and the total amount should have a factor of 10 (10-pack). When the phones were arrived you can pick them up with an invoice of the company or they send the phone to you (with an invoice), but then you have to pay shipping costs. All the phones should be paid before they place the order! Belgium is also welcome!<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 04/05} I know I can't speak for all of us here. But me personally, I have a little bit more faith in the offering of Open Source Nieuws Nederland. Sorry Eddy, btw, I doubt that phones sold through Trisoft would fall under the group sale. But I could be mistaken. <br /><br />
Provided we get answers on the warranty thing from Openmoko, I think that's our best bet.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 05/05} Ok, let's take a quick vote (btw, any reseller who is interested in taking 10 way orders can extend this table):<br />
<br />
=== Votes for a reseller ===<br />
{|border=1<br />
!Name<br />
!Trisoft<br />
!Open Source Nieuws Nederland<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Eric_Smith|Eric Smith]]<br />
|<br />
|1 (Subject to a solution for warranty)<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:PingPong|Peter Hageman]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[Special:Emailuser/User:PWerken|Peter van de Werken]]<br />
|<br />
|1 (note: I'll buy 2 Freerunners)<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:A.dre|André Disselhorst]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:T_M|Theo Martens]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]]<br />
|<br />
|1 (If warranty is OK)<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|[[User:ChristW|Christ van Willegen]]<br />
|<br />
|1<br />
|-<br />
|'''Total'''<br />
|<br />
|10<br />
|}<br />
{[[User:Yorick|Yorick]] 06/05} I contacted Michael Brus, the manager of PDAshop. This is what he said:<br />
Beste Yorick,<br />
<br />
Bedankt voor je mail en informatie; ik kende de toestellen niet, maar zou ze<br />
best eens van dichtbij willen bekijken. Het 'developer' model lijkt me dan<br />
echter weer minder interessant voor ons; het 'consumer' model zou eind 2008<br />
op de markt moeten komen?<br />
<br />
Met vriendelijke groet,<br />
With kind regards,<br />
<br />
Michael Brus<br />
Manager PDAshop<br />
<br />
<br />
Coolblue<br />
Molenbaan 11 . 2908 LL Capelle a/d IJssel . www.coolblue.nl<br />
<br />
Coolblue is...<br />
MP3shop.nl . PDAshop.nl . Digicamshop.nl . GPSshop.nl .<br />
Smartphoneshop.nl . Consoleshop.nl . Telefoonshop.nl . meer...<br />
<br />
Should I forward this to Michael Shiloh?<br />
<br />
{[[User:Jan de Haan|Jan de Haan]] 07/05} I'll vote to wait until there are actually phones shipping, until that time, the more people we gather here, and maybe other dealers, the better the deal we get(I hope).<br />
<br />
{[[User:T_M|Theo Martens]] 08/05} <br />
Well, I want to have the phone as soon as possible. The best deal ever isn't my main concern.<br />
<br />
{[[User:Madjo|Marcel de Jong]] 13/05}<br />
I've been browsing the mailing list, and found [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/016971.html this post] from Openmoko's Steve. Group sales have 28 days of DOA (Dead On Arrival) coverage, and single sales have 14 days of DOA coverage. Which I think is reasonable. BTW, I don't think there will be a better deal than the $369 per phone for the 10-pack. <br /><br />
We currently have enough people to fill 2 10-packs, which is awesome! <br /><br />
What we do need to figure out are the import costs, and the shipping costs. (it's shipped via UPS, if I recall correctly from the mailing list.)<br />
<br />
{[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 22/05}<br />
<br />
I wouldn't be too sure that this is financially going to be the best deal. This message in the community mailing list (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017668.html) shows interesting info regarding Pulster.<br />
----<br />
''Christph Pulster wrote:<br />
''> about 10 pack orders - we try to be cheaper than the 10-order-<br />
''> pack-price ! so no need to collect ten local buyers.<br />
<br />
''This sounds so good...! I'm waiting for official news (and maybe infos<br />
about the gifts too)...''<br />
----<br />
'''I checked their webpage and they advertise with OpenMoko Freerunner 299 eur'''<br />
<br />
{[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 22/05} I checked their website too and it says 'Sobald der Freerunner wirklich lieferbar ist, ist er an dieser Stelle mit konkretem Preis zu finden und real bestellbar.' Which could mean that the price will be something other than 299 euro.<br />
<br />
{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 22/05} I like the pulster deal a lot, even if they are the same price as buying the 10 pack in the US the warranty part is a lot better seeing Germany is next door to us. Only thing is that you would mis out on the pouch and headset, dunno if that's such a great loss. And they say they will be going under the price of the US 10 pack order if you order the 10 from them. So maybe a vote on yes or no to the pouch/headset deal? Maybe we should check if with Pulster a group order of 10+ will always give the discount. Like 22 will get the same discount and that we are not forced in getting groups of ten people.<br />
<br />
<br />
{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 22/05} I wrote an e-mail to pulster with the questions so I will post the answer here when I get one.<br />
<br />
{[[User:T_M|Theo Martens]] 24/05} <br />
The pouch and headset are not that important IMO. I guess most join the group sale for convenience and reduce cost. But maybe I'm wrong.<br />
<br />
<br />
{[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 26/05}<br />
<br />
'''From the community mailing list again:<br />
<br />
'''Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote [to Pulster - Ed.]:<br />
''>> 1. Do you know when you'll be approximately able to define a price?<br />
''>> 2. The Freerunner will be shipped with extra goodies (generally<br />
''>> given only to people buying a 10-pack (ie: pouch and headset)?<br />
''> <br />
<br />
'''From Pulster [Ed.]<br />
<br />
''> Price fix ASAP I have the units in own hands/stocks.<br />
''> 299-319 eur is really realistic.<br />
''> <br />
''> All goodies included at PULSTER !<br />
''> <br />
''> Also can be bought a lot accessories extra very soon (debug board, pens, <br />
''> cases etc)<br />
''> <br />
''> you see, I will make all your wishes true :)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 26/05} Yeah, read that message in the weekend, no reply to my mail at this moment but seeing this message straight from pulster I would say that we should buy directly from pulster as a group. Warranty wise it's better as well.<br />
<br />
399 U.S. dollars is about 253 Euros and including VAT that would become 301.07 Euro so pulster with their price being 299 Euro (see below) has a good price and for 10 and more there is a discount just like in the US. I would propose to take the dutch group sale to Pulster.<br />
<br />
The following mail from Chis Pulster was on the list also.<br />
<br />
<br />
----<br />
I am Chris from pulster.eu - my hello to this great community.<br />
<br />
May I add some points from my side:<br />
<br />
- Freerunner - ready to order ASAP it is available. We do not<br />
take pre-orders of items we dont have in hands. For a one-time info- <br />
mail once the Freerunner is ready to order, please just email me <br />
mailto: christoph@pulster.de<br />
- we aim a Freerunner price tag of 299 EUR incl. VAT<br />
- shipping worldwide with DHL, Europa 15 EUR, World 30 EUR postage<br />
- soon we offer accessories for Freerunner like spare batterie, charger, <br />
Headset, pouch and also the debug-board<br />
- group-sales make local communities, that is wonderful. I am happy to <br />
sell Freerunner separately or in packages.<br />
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Many thanks,<br />
Chris<br />
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----<br />
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{[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]] 26/05}<br />
Indeed let's take the dutch group sale to Pulster. We are with 22 so we should be able to make a good deal regarding the goodies. And in that way no-one has to take any financial risk.<br />
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{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 28/05} My guess is, that for a group buy at pulster there is still one entity needed for buying the devices. The thing is that with pulster, as with the US deal, the waranty should be per person and not named for the buying entity.<br />
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:I don't think that we need to do the 'group buy' at Pulster. You can just buy the device at 299 a piece there. I would like to have the pouch though, if they can assure me that the pouch and other goodies would be included in the deal (because they of course could make a number of 'groupbuys' for the entire customer base), then count me in.--[[User:Madjo|MadJo]]<br />
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:: Your absolutly right on this one, been thinking about it and the possible discount we would be getting would wasted on shipping within the Netherlands again. Like you said, if there are goodies involved it's a different deal of course :) . --[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]]<br />
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:::So let's start negotiating with Pulster regarding the goodies. We can bring in 22 customers, so he has something to win. It might be important to know whether Pulster takes credit card payments. I cannot find that option on their webpage and an electronic banktransfer will add another 15 (?) euro.[[User:Ericsp|Eric Spierings]]<br />
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:::: I'm afraid they don't accept credit cards (from their [http://www.pulster.de/engl/imprint.htm About Us page]:<br />
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We do not accept any other payment option like PayPal, Reembourse/Cash-on-delivery (COD) payments, <br />
direct CreditCard payments, any kind of cheques, western union, postal money orders, cash. Please dont <br />
ask, we do not accept none of this options thanks to a very few but very expensive scams. <br />
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:::: Nice double negative in there, btw. But still, 299+15 is less than 350 or 400. ;) --[[User:Madjo|MadJo]]<br />
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::::: If it is going to be a group sale (if pulster provides the goodies) it would be (discounted price * 22 + transfer rate + (21 * shipping within Holland)) [[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]]<br />
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:::::: Are you assuming that we'd get a discounted price when we order in bulk? I have not seen any evidence that Pulster will lower the price even more, when done like that. But indeed, we'd have 22 * whatever-price-the-freerunner-will-get-at-Pulster + shipping costs... but then we are back at the discussion of how to deal with the warranty. Will Pulster give separate invoices for each of the phones in the pack? --[[User:Madjo|MadJo]]<br />
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{[[User:mivaho|Michel van Horssen]] 02/06} Okay I got an answer from Chris Pulster. I had 2 main questions that he answered and they were 1. Will the pouch and other goodies be included with a group sale as would be if we were to buy in the states. 2. Is a group sale, like in the states, limited to groups of ten or will the discount be for all phones bought in bulk. This is what he had to say:<br />
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about your question: at the moment we dont know about pouch/headsets <br />
included or not. I will tell you a more reliable answer if Freerunners <br />
are in stocks.<br />
my discount system and sales are full flexibel (no ten-pack limitations)<br />
let us talk and we find a nice offer for the dutch OpenMoko community !<br />
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Beste Gruesse aus Leimen,<br />
Christoph Pulster<br />
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We will have to take a look at what the discount will be and if it is worth it considering we will have extra shipping cost in holland.<br />
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If the shipping costs will be too high, i would be willing to pick the phones up myself, if my expenses are covered. We have to figure out further distribution though. {[[User:KenSentMe|Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof]] 03/06}<br />
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== Canada ==<br />
==== GTA (Toronto) ====<br />
{ --[[User:Argo|Argo]] 03:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC) }<br />
For group 1 it looks like they have actually gotten the 10 orders in? or am I them adding up wrong?<br />
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== Croatia ==<br />
{--[[User:W00t|W00t]] 14:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)} '''ja ne bih da već sada radimo pan-balkansku grupu, iskreno sam iznenađen odazivom do sada, pa jedino možda ako ne skupimo dovoljno ljudi do kraja ovog tjedna...'''<br />
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moj post sa hr.comp.os.linux upućen mnalisu;<br />
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> BTW, ti si zapravo kontaktirao HULK i rekli su ti da bi to oni isli raditi i<br />
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> gnjaviti se sa svim tim, ili ih cisto spominjes onako u smislu "pa oni su<br />
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> dragi ljudi, sigurno ce besplatno uloziti mjesece svog zivota u to u zamjenu<br />
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> za pivu" ?<br />
<br />
Davio sam ih malo zadnja dva dana na IRCu, i prema logu načelno su za<br />
da se narudžbe hendlaju preko njih. A i mislim da se ipak ne radi o<br />
mjesecima života bačenih za pivu, more like možda 2-3 sata za gajbu<br />
ili dvije :), hell ako je toliko teško napravit ću ja sve, učlanit se<br />
u HULK ako treba<br />
<br />
ali do toga trenutka ovako ja razmišljam:<br />
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1.) skupimo 10 zainteresiranih<br />
2.) ja nazovem carinu i agenciju za telekomunikacije<br />
3.) pitamo openmoko za shipping estimate<br />
4.) ako su svi i dalje za, skupljanje sredstava i na kraju narudžba<br />
<br />
dakle ništa nije obligatory, idemo step by step, onog trenutka kada se<br />
prijavi 10 ljudi na wikiju ja zovem nadležne službe, pa ćemo vidit di<br />
stojimo sa uvozom i tim''<br />
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nemoj odmah "worst case scenario" :)<br />
<br />
>> mozda da se malo na elitesecurity.org pokrene rasprava?<br />
<br />
--[[User:W00t|W00t]] 10:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC) svakako, ja sam za<br />
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== Czech Republic ==<br />
Distribuční seznam, základní informace naleznete v [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Czech_Republic GroupSales]<br />
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*[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Diskuze Diskuze]<br />
*[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:GroupSales#Dopl.C5.88uj.C3.ADc.C3.AD_informace Doplňující informace]<br />
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=== Diskuze ===<br />
''Martin Holec''> Máme tu 4x ze Zlína, co kdyby někdo jel do Brna pro 4ks a ve Zlíně by se rozdělili?<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> jak jsem psal, já do Zlína jezdívám, a od května do září budu ve Zlíně velmi často, takže se Zlínem není vůbec problém.<br />
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Jinak už se objevily nějaké termíny. Jestli jsem to dobře pochopil, tak 9.5. by už mohla začít masová výroba a brzy na to by měl začít prodej...<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>> Jak by měl vlastně vypadat? Takový ten bíly se mně moc nelíbí. Radši bych měl [http://http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg černý].<br />
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''Michal Pěnka''> Protože jsem jedenáctý a nevím, jestli bude možné objednat 11 kusů nebo jen po desítkách, domluvím se s Tomem Vargou později (jestli by byl ochotný pro převoz do Prahy), každopádně bych také raději ten černý.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>> Jak to tak tady pročítám tak to půjde objednat za zvýhodněnou cenu (+pytlík? a headset) opravdu jenom po desítkách. Ale IMHO když této stránce zvedneme popularitu (případně přiberem Slováky) tak jich budem nakonec brát minimálně dvacet ;) Mně osobně připadá datum 9.5. hodně optimistické.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> FreeRunner bude pouze v jedné barevné variantě, a to černý. To datum 9.5. mám [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates odsud]<br />
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''Pavel Kovář'' >>Nemáte někdo fotku freerunnera ? na wiki jsem zatím našel jenom fotky GTA1-čky<br />
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''David Kozub''>> Jelikoz se vyskytuju ve Zline i v Praze, muzu zajistit prevoz do Prahy.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> No tak například tady to máš dokonce na videu: http://youtube.com/watch?v=k9QLdK6pFCI ;-) Ale jinak i na wiki se povalují fotky FreeRunnera. Například hned ta první na hlavní stránce ;-)<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>> To video je parádní. Co se týče té fotky z úvodu wiki, myslel jsem, že je to jenom render. Jinak jak jsem tak bloudil po stránkách české pošty - nejlevněj to nejspíš vyjde poslat jako profibalík za myslím že 64korun. Za dobírku se něco ještě připlácí. Balík je pojištěný do 100 000. [http://www.cpost.cz:80/jetspeed/portal/media-type/html/user/anon/page/default.psml/js_pane/sluzbyonline%2Czasilky?docid=370&calc_lb0=10424&calc_cb0=1 více zde]<br />
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ad. '''Praha (Čechy):'''<br />
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''Tom Varga''>> Pokoušel jsem se vyčíst z mailing listu, jak je to s tou množstevní slevou - co jsem z toho pochopil, tak by neměl být problém objednat množství nedělitené desíti, ale ty kusy navíc jsou pak [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016432.html bez slevy] a [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016202.html bez bonusu]; pořád by se to ale vyplatilo skrze poštovné. Prozatím bych navrhl, aby se zájemci z Prahy (Čech) zapsali / potvrdili smazáním otazníku v [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distribu%C4%8Dn%C3%AD_sch%C3%A9ma distribučním schématu], možná něco podobného pro Slovensko - momentálně to vypadá, že bude snazší sehnat 20 zájemců celkem a taky by se tím mohla situace trochu vyjasnit. Osobně jsem schopen zajistit dovoz z Brna do Prahy, Liberce, Jablonce n.N. a přilehlých končin. Případné návrhy sem ;)<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>>> Řekl bych že čím větší balík poletí za Ameriky sem tím levněj to vyjde. Pokud není poštovné na gramy. 20-ti zájemců se určitě dočkáme. Když počítám Františka Horínka z Bratislavy tak je nás 18. Co se týče bonusů na headsetu moc nelpím ale ten pytel by se mně vážně hodil. Často v kapse kombinuju mobil a klíče nebo šroubovák...<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>>>> Poštovné samozřejmě není na gramy, ale na libry, neboli každých započatých 0.45 kg se platí, plus se poštovné započítává do cla, mimochodem taková zásilka asi jen tak přes celnici neprojde, takže je možné, že nikdo (příjemce) bude muset dodat na celnici případné dokumenty dokladující hodnotu zasílaného zboží.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''>>>>> Tak dle "platného" celního sazebníku by se clo nemělo platit. Viz [http://disk.jabbim.cz/ivir@jabbim.com/celni_sazebnik.pdf Sazebník] strana 568. Tedy by se hradilo pouze DPH. Aspoň si myslím, že 20 telefonů jako "dárek" asi neprojde.<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>>>>>> No tím lépe, ale tak já to beztak myslel jako celý celní dluh a to dph je právě i z poštovného.<br />
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''Miloslav Machotka''> Koukám že jsem trochu zaspal dění. :) V [http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distribu%C4%8Dn%C3%AD_sch%C3%A9ma distribučním schématu] jsem se připsal k Praze. Mám to nejblíž, jsem z Vlašimi, ale jinak jsem pro to schopen dojet i do Brna. Jsem pro to aby se to vyřešilo, pokud možno, po desítkách a pak to rozvést (rozeslat) po Čechách a Slovensku. Bonusy se asi většině lidí hodí.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>>>>>>> DPH musíme taky platit ?? To je mrzuté. Kolik mají DPH slováci ? nevyšlo by to levněj poslat do Bratislavy a stama ''"propašovat"'' k nám ? Když už máme ten šengen... Nevrátí nám třeba amíci DPH které za to zaplatili u nich ?<br />
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''Jan Mareš''>>>>>>>> Co je mi známo, tak při obchodování mimo zemi se DPH neúčtuje a účtuje se až v cílové zemi. Dle rok starého článku na měšci je základní sazba stejná, tj. 19%. Od DPH by to šlo odprostit pouze pokud by na tom balíku bylo napsáno, že se jedná o dárek. Pak se na to daň neuplatní. Jakmile se mi povede najít ustanovení/článek, tak jsem dám odkaz.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> No ono je stále ještě otázkou, odkud to vůbec budou posílat. Protože sem někde viděl informace, že se budou snažit zásobovat Evropu z nějakého centra v Evropě. O tom dárku jsem taky slyšel, ale prej to taky není zaručený způsob. Celníci se do toho můžou podívat, a uvalit na to daň podle vlastního rozhodnutí (prej). Jinak ale je tu ještě možnost, že by nám to někdo dovezl. Nevíte jak to funguje v tom případě?<br />
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''Jan Mareš''>>To centrum v Evropě bylo v plánu avšak levněji jim to vyjde posílání z Ameriky, takže bude k dispozici jen jedno centrum v USA. Ohledně toho dárku jsem doposud četl, že jeho částka nesmí přesáhnout 55€, jinak je normálně proclíván. Při osobním převozu jsou nastaveny limity výše viz [http://www.celnisprava.cz/CmsGrc/Cestovani-a-nakupy/Jak-se-chovat/mimo-eu.htm celní správa].<br />
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''Pavel Kovář'' >>> Kdyby vezl dva tři tak by možná ukecal že je to dárek ale dvacet... clo vem čert to bude nanejvýš 3,5% což není taková pálka. Spíš kdy se to DPH z toho platí ? Hned na celnici nebo musím podat něco jako daňové přiznání ?<br />
* No tak zatím jsem zjistil že nejspíš jediná šance jak se osvobodit od cla a DPH je že všeci sedem do letadla a zajedem si pro to. Limit je 6000kč na jednu osobu starší 15-ti let.<br />
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''Jan Mares''>>>> Clo se na tento druh zboží nevztahuje. Platí se pouze české DPH, který ti celníci vyměří z ''ceny zboží + doprava + clo'', pak ti v případě fyzické osoby zašlou na tvou poštu, kde uhradíš DPH jako dobírku. U podnikatele je to trošku jiné. VAT (čili americké DPH) na zboží nebude uvaleno, jelikož zboží je vyváženo z USA.<br />
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''Martin Šenkeřík''> No a dá se tohle spočítat předem? Abysme mohli stanovit cenu?<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>> No dokud nebude jasne kolik bude stat postovne (typ + vaha) a jaky bude kurs dolaru, tak presna cena asi tezko.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>>No co. Tak ti každý pošlem sedm tisíc s tím, že potom přebytky rozdělíš do obálek a budeš předávat s každým telefonem obálku. Jinak to asi dost dobře nepůjde. Jedině že by nám to sem dopravila česká pobočka FIC-u/foxconn. Ale to je podle mně nepravděpodobné.<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>>>JJ take myslim, ze bych dal predbeznou cenu 7K s tim, ze uz je poslem, at muzes pruzne zareagovat a ne pak cekat az vsichni poslou.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''>>>> Kdyby se zase Steve nebo někdo vyjádřil v jakém je to stavu a přidal předběžný odhad kdy se začne prodávat. Teďka je to těžko. Můžou ho vydat zítra ale taky třeba i za půl roku pokud se objeví nějaký složitý problém.<br />
Ještě k té předběžné ceně - dolar není za 15 korun ale za 16,1-16,2 korun I s DPH se do těch 7000 nespíš nevejdem. Jestli že se domluvíme žo začnem posílat peníze tak navrhuju posílat 7500. IMHO dolar už níž nepůjde.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Co jsem se zatím díval na možnosti přepravy (DHL,Fedex,UPS,USPS), tak nejvýhodněji vychází USPS ([http://www.usps.com/ usps.com]), kdy se pohybujeme kolem částky 120$ i s pojištěním (kdyby to bylo cca 10kg což pochybuji). Bohužel maximální pojištění činí 5 000$, přičemž celková částka balíku vychází na cca 7 580$ . U ostatních jsem ohledně pojištění nenašel zmínku, přičemž poštovné vycházelo většinou přes 500$. Z pohledu pojištění by bylo vhodné objednávky rozdělit. Ještě bude záležet jaké poštovní služby nabídnou v e-shopu. Včera u ČSOB byla prodejní cena dolaru na 16,44Kč/$ a musím bohužel souhlasit, že lepší to už nebude. Jinak ceník je k dispozici na této adrese [http://pe.usps.com/text/Imm/ce_019.htm#ep1419781 http://pe.usps.com/text/Imm/ce_019.htm#ep1419781] .<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''> Teď mně napadlo - co kdyby jsem někde založili učet (nejlépe spořící) v dolarech a poslali to tam teď ? [http://www.mesec.cz/clanky/ucet-v-cizi-mene-ano-ale-kde/] Kdyby tak člověk věděl že pozítru neoznámí prodej...<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>>>>> Tak urcite bych pockal s placenim na nejake jistejsi vyjadreni, ale necekal bych na otevreni kramu, tehdy uz by chtelo, aby se to dalo hned objednat, co se tyka uctu neverim, ze dolar spadne, ale ani ze poroste a tak bych to neresil.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Vzhledem k množství objednávaného zboží bych možná už využil dopravních společností, které za nás provedou celní odbavení. Aspoň metodický pokyny k vyplnění JSD (jednotný správní doklad) nejsou triviální a zabere to minimálně půlden. Ukázku dokumentu jsme nalezl zde: [http://www.sevt.cz/produkt/jsd-18430-tranzit-60842500/ http://www.sevt.cz/produkt/jsd-18430-tranzit-60842500/].<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>> Dole v tom dopisu z celního úřadu se píše: "který má příslušné oprávnění pro hospodářskou nebo<br />
obchodní činnost" to nikdo z nás má?<br />
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''Michal Bořek'' >> '''[http://www.trisoft.de/en_freerunner.htm Evropský Distributor]''', ale je celkem dražší.<br />
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''Radek Machulka'' > Což o to, [http://www.pulster.de/ tady] je o 50 euro levnější, ale nemyslím si, že to bude ve výsledku výhodnější.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''>>> Co jsem se díval do pokynů, tak to může vyplnit i fyzická osoba, jelikož každý způsobilý občan může provést obchodní činnost. Pouze nesmí být opakovaného rázu, tj. jednorázové obchody. Zkusím se tedy dotázat konkrétněji na tuto část. Ohledně toho evropského distributora nevím. Odhadem to vychází přes 1000 Kč dráž bez poštovného a bez bonusů. Jestliže se nám poradí vyřešit problém s celním úřadem, tak bych spíše volil objednávku z USA. Připadá mi, že tyhle obchody to jen objednají v USA, přijmou a přepošlou s přirážkou.<br />
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''Michal Bořek'' >>>> Take jsem pro USA, jen sem to nasel a ac ten od Radka Machulky je uz zajimavejsi tak verim, ze se dostanem i pod nej a jeste je tam ten obal a sluchatka.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář''> Já jsem též pro USA. Ještě by bylo možné (teoreticky) zkusit si to objednat přes nějakého (mešího) obchodníka co bere věci od FIC-u<br />
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''Michal Bořek''> Tož sem [[GroupSales#Aktu.C3.A1ln.C4.9B|vyhlásil konkurz]] na koordinátora pražské větve a snad se najde někdo kdo je schopen se vejít do těch zásadních bodů co jsem tam nastínil.<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Relativně požadavky splňuji. Mám studentský ČSOB účet mající limit na 1,5M, kartu Visa Classic, angličtinu zvládám na úrovni čtení technické dokumentace, bydlím na Barrandově a jabber též mám (ivir@jabbim.com). Jen tu důvěryhodnost nemám. :) S tím clem to bude ještě zajímavé, ale snad mi ohledně toho ještě poradí z celního úřadu. V nouzi mám k dispozici i OSVČ. :)<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Dle [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017531.html příspěvku] bude dovoz zboží do USA zahájen někdy 1.června. K tomu je nutné připočítat min. týden až 3 než zboží dorazí do skladů. Z příspěvku teoreticky vyplývá, že bude i evropský HUB. Snad to bude za stejnou částku a s bonusy. :)<br />
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''Michal Bořek''>Podle [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017607.html příspěvku] by měl webový shop odkazovat na us i eu a to vypadá čím dál nadějnějš co se týká poštovného aj cla.<br />
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''Pavel Kovář'' jestli to dobře překládám tak není jasné jakým způsobem to půjde z činy - jestli lodí nebo letadlem ?<br />
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''Jan Mareš''> Ano, aspoň takto jsem to pochopil i já. Problémem je ta doba dodání. Jinak co se týká vyřízení JSD (cla), tak u zprostředkovatele [http://www.kama-eu.cz/ KAMA s.r.o.>, jež mi doporučil celní úřad, vychází na cca 1000 Kč viz ceník, což mi připadá přijatelné.<br />
<br />
''Martin Šenkeřík''> No mně ty informace od Steva přijdou vždycky nějaké zmatené. Nevědí jestli lodí nebo letadlem, ale odejít by to snad mělo až 1.6. (nebo co má znamenat to datum, v jeho zprávě), takže to ještě docela potrvá... :-(<br />
Jan Mareš: můžeš prosím popsat co přesně má být těch 1000Kč a jak se na to přijde? Já tomu pořád nějak nerozumím...<br />
<br />
''Pavel Kovář''>> <font color="gray">best case is I would start to test phones around the first of june. Then<br />
pack and ship.<br />
</font>1.6. začíná testovat telefony a potm je balit a odesílat.<br><br />
<font color=gray>The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you<br />
build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says.<br />
"good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on the<br />
test software, because that bad phone really was good." arrg.</font> Ale toto nějak moc nechápu.<br />
<br />
<br />
''Jan Mareš''> Vychází to takto: 250 Kč (vypracování JSD), 30 Kč (vypracování hodnoty), 250 Kč (jednani za deklaranta), 30 Kč (avízo) a pak asi ručení (350). Je to můj odhad a po konkrétním dotaze by měli sdělit částku. Asi tedy bude třeba připočítat poštovné (250 Kč). Zatím jsem jim napsal dotaz ohledně nepodnikající osoby s tímto množstvím, tak jsem zvědav kdy odpoví.<br />
Tu další část považuji za povzdychnutí, kdy jim vyrobili více telefonů z nichž jen část prošla a továrna chce tohle číslo minimalizovat a že dané chyby byly spíše SW povahy.<br />
<br />
''Pavel Kovář'' Podle toho co píšeš bych řekl že by vyšlo levněj kdyby jsme brali všechny telefony dohromady.Jaké má výhody osamostatnění Prahy ?<br />
<br />
''Michal Bořek'' No nedokazeme pojistit 30telefonu na jejich cenu pri doprave, ale jinak pokud by to clo vyrizovala firma asi by to bylo vyhodnejsi.<br />
<br />
''Jan Mareš''> Trochu mě znepokojují zprávy v community e-mail archivu, kde uvádějí, že openmoko e-shop využívá služeb UPS. U nich by nebyl problém s pojištěním, ale ty ceny. Cena je de facto konstantní na cca 600$ (při 10kg balíčku), takže pak by bylo vhodné objednávku shrnout dohromady. Pak by to vycházelo o cca 10$ na hlavu více. Snažím se přesvědčit otce jako OSVČ, že by byla objednávka napsaná na něj a tím pádem by odpadl problém s využitím výše uvedené společnosti od nichž jsem dostal zamítavé stanovisko ohledně "neobchodní zásilky".<br />
<br />
Pak už zbývá využít evropského distributora Pulster.de . Teoreticky mi vychází částka při dovozu z US na 7600 Kč a u Pulsteru na 7 660Kč bez poštovné. Avšak za předpokladu společné hromadné objednávky. V opačném případě je nutné připočíst u US objednávky cca tisícovku (při 10 lidech).<br />
<br />
Zapomněl jsem tedy dodat, že zboží by bylo v republice za 4-5 dnů + pár dnů na vyřízení celního řízení.<br />
<br />
''Martin Šenkeřík''> veškeré spekulace jsou zatím velmi předběžné, protože ani sami prodejci ještě nemají jasno, za jakých podmínek budou FreeRunner prodávat. Každopádně Pulster se mi docela zamlouvá (viz níže), vypadá že s panem majitelem se dá rozumně domluvit. Asi mu řeknu že objednávám telefonů 40, aby byl kdyžtak ochoten větší slevy nebo nějakého zvýhodnění a nechám tu zásilku jenom rozdělit a poslat do Prahy a sobě... Ale jak říkám, pořád ještě je všechno předběžné, definitivně se rozhodne asi už během tohoto měsíce.<br />
<br />
''Martin Šenkeřík''> Ještě jedna novinka: pan Christoph Pulster z pulster.de mně oznámil zahájení prodeje debug boardu za "lidovou" cenu 149€ což je docela rozdíl oproti 99$... Takže jak říkám, všechno jsou teď jenom teoretické úvahy jak objednávku zorganizovat. Ikdyž osobně dávám pulster.de naděje, myslím, že se na ceně jak debugboardu, tak telefonu, bude dát domluvit, stejně jako nulová cena za dopravu zní přijatelně :-)<br />
<br />
''Pavel Kovář''> Pražáků je docela nešťastý počet. Jediné co mně napadá je pokusit se domluvit s Plusterem že by vzal 4 desítky z toho nám přeposlal těch 34 a zbytek by si nechal a prodal. A taky chci poděkovat Martinu Šenkeříkovi za to že se o nás tak stará.<br />
<br />
''Jan Mareš''>Tak je otázkou jak vlastně Pulster bude fungovat. Jako evropský distributor by měl od openmoko odbržet třeba 500ks (na dluh), které pak prodává. Z tohoto pohledu je jedno jaký počet telefonů se objedná. Pochybuji, že ta distribuce je založena na tom, že mi mu zaplatíme a on to objedná z US skladu. Pak by se určitě lépe hodil nákup přímo z US, kdy skrze UPS by se vyřídily všechny formality s celním úřadem. Rozhodující je konečná cena u Pulsteru.<br />
<br />
''Radek Machulka'' > Tak to vypada, ze si budeme moci vybrat: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-June/019117.html list]<br />
<br />
''Jan Mareš''> Žel s ohledem na co nejnižší cenu jsou oba distributori mimo hru, kdy se pohybujeme s cenou kolem 8 700Kč, což je hnedle o tisícikorunu více než při objednání z US. Doufejme, že Pulster nahodí lepší cenu.<br />
<br />
''Pavel Kovář'' > To je mrzuté. Vypadá to, že se všichni distributoři rozhodli, že si na tom namastí kapsu a spoléhají na to, že nic podobného neexistuje a že je to novinka...<br />
<br />
''Michal Bořek'' >> Podle té dvojnásobné ceny debug boardu se dá soudit, že nám nic jiného než US nezbude,tyhle EU distributoři jsou fakt jen zlatokopové.<br />
<br />
''Pavel Kovář'' >>> Doufám že je amíci nezančou dorovnávat.<br />
<br />
''Martin Šenkeřík'' > Jak jsem už několikrát psal, na jakékoliv spekulace je pořád brzo, situace se stále vyvíjí -> pulster dnes debugboard oficiálně slevnil na 99€. Takže ještě pořád není rozhodnuto. Prostě počkáme s čím kdo přijde (případně distributory trošku nakopnu sám :-)). "Amíci" je rozhodně dorovnávat nezačnou, když od "amíků" to ti Evropští distributoři objednávají ;-)<br />
<br />
=== Doplňující informace ===<br />
* '''Vyjádření Pulster.de na objednávku většího množství telefonů:'''<br />
Hello,<br />
<br />
on OpenMoko wiki they announced: "Every 10 pack, will come with<br />
a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets." Will this offer<br />
also be available in your shop? Some discount and bonus gadgets?<br />
I already want to order 20-30 phones to Czech Republic, so I am<br />
trying to find the best way, how to order this amount. Either<br />
from USA or from EU.<br />
<br />
Thank you, Martin Senkerik<br />
<br />
Hello,<br />
<br />
thanks a lot for asking. Right now we dont have Freerunner in<br />
stock, so no idea about earphones/pouches, sorry.<br />
I am happy to provide Czech users with OpenMokos. No customs,<br />
no paperwork, I have a lot CZ customers.<br />
Allow me to put you on the info list once it is avalaible and you<br />
get clear infos about all. We can work out free shipping and <br />
maybe some goodies.<br />
<br />
<br />
heres the standard info text:<br />
<br />
The new modell is called "Freerunner" (version GTA02).<br />
It will be available end of June 2008. We try to aim 300-350 EUR<br />
sales price.<br />
Once it's ready to ship, you willfind it in our shop.<br />
We do not make pre-orders of items we dont have in hands,<br />
so please understand. Once the Freerunner is in stock, ready to<br />
ship, we will send you a one-time info mail (we do not send<br />
you any spam, dont worry).<br />
<br />
Of course we are happy you bookmark us and come back to check<br />
for the nice Freerunner. Please find a small datasheet here:<br />
http://www.pulster.de/info/pdas/openmoko/freerunner-flyer.pdf<br />
<br />
<br />
Beste Gruesse aus Leimen,<br />
Christoph Pulster<br />
<br />
* '''Moje komunikace s pobočkou FIC v ČR:'''<br />
Dobrý den,<br />
<br />
Taiwanský FIC v nejbližších dnech začne s prodejem mobilního telefonu<br />
Neo FreeRunner (www.openmoko.com). Chci se zeptat, jestli bude možné případné<br />
reklamace a opravy řešit u vás?<br />
<br />
Zatím není známý přesný způsob distribuce tohoto telefonu pro Evropu<br />
a Českou republiku. Nebude vaše pobočka zapojena do distribuční sítě?<br />
<br />
Děkuji za odpověď, Martin Šenkeřík<br />
Odpověď:<br />
Dobrý den,<br />
<br />
FIC CZ s.r.o. v těchto měsících přechází pod Foxconn CZ.<br />
V případě reklamace či informací se obracejte přímo na FIC TW.<br />
Kontaktní osobou na Zákaznickém oddělení je<br />
<br />
Mr. James Chang<br />
Customer Service Department<br />
Te.: +886 2 8751 8751 ext.6196<br />
James_chang@fic.com.tw<br />
<br />
S pozdravem<br />
<br />
Jarka Ripplova<br />
<br />
* '''Dotaz na celní úřad ohledně zpracování zásilky:'''<br />
Věc: Informace<br />
<br />
K Vaší žádosti o informaci týkající se hromadného dovozu zásilky pro osobní<br />
potřebu více příjemců Vám sdělujeme:<br />
<br />
Za zásilku zboží neobchodní povahy se ve smyslu celních předpisů považují<br />
zásilky, které jsou dováženy příležitostně a které obsahují výhradně zboží<br />
určené k osobnímu užití příjemců nebo jejich rodin, přičemž toto zboží nesmí<br />
povahou ani množstvím svědčit o obchodním úmyslu dovozce. Z uvedeného<br />
vyplývá, že tzv. sběrná zásilka nemůže být považována za zásilku zboží<br />
neobchodní povahy, i když obsah je určen pro osobní potřebu soukromých osob.<br />
Při dovozu zásilky obchodní povahy je zásilka zadržena při vstupu na celní<br />
území EU a příjemce vyzván k předložení celního prohlášení. Celní formality<br />
uskutečňuje příjemce, který má příslušné oprávnění pro hospodářskou nebo<br />
obchodní činnost.<br />
<br />
Pro zboží zařazené v některé z podpoložek čísla 8517 je celním sazebníkem EU<br />
stanovena sazba cla 0 %. Při dovozu zásilky zboží obchodního charakteru<br />
celní orgány posuzují, zda zboží nepodléhá zvláštnímu řízení podle zákona č.<br />
38/1994 Sb., o zahraničním obchodu s vojenským materiálem. Vedle cla se při<br />
propuštění dovezeného zboží do volného oběhu v tuzemsku vyměřuje DPH v<br />
základní sazbě 19 %. Základem pro vyměření DPH je cena, za kterou bylo zboží<br />
prodáno do EU, ke které se přičtou náklady na dopravu zásilky do EU, podle<br />
příslušných ustanovení zákona o DPH.<br />
<br />
Celní dluh, jehož součástí je i DPH, se vyměří v českých korunách z celní<br />
hodnoty převedené na české koruny v kurzu platném pro příslušné období.<br />
Aktuální kurzy měn jsou uveřejněny na stránkách Celní správy České republiky<br />
www.cs.mfcr.cz cestou Servis - Kurzovní lístky.<br />
<br />
== To open Colombia groupsales ==<br />
<br />
I wan to open the Colombia-Bogotá group sales.<br />
I want Neo advanced, no matter if the rest of the people wants the other.<br />
my mail: arawaco@ieee.org</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page/esMain Page/es2007-07-16T21:00:40Z<p>Arw: /* Miscelánea */</p>
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<div><big>'''Bienvenido al wiki público de [[OpenMoko]]'''</big><br><br />
<small>Para otros idiomas seguir el siguiente vínculo: [[#bottom|otros idiomas]].</small> <br />
<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|right|frontside]]<br />
[[OpenMoko]] es un proyecto de [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Codigo Abierto] para crear el primer sistema operativo libre para teléfonos móviles a nivel mundial.<br />
<br />
El proyecto [[OpenMoko]] es una comunidad a la cual se puede unir toda persona para diseñar su celular ideal.<br />
<br />
La meta a largo plazo de [[OpenMoko]] es que los programas que usen los teléfonos móviles no sean específicos para un sólo tipo de teléfono. Ésto implica que usted puede comprar cualquier móvil y usar cualquier aplicación e instalarla en una amplia gama de dispositivos compatibles. Tampoco hay riesgo de peŕdidfa de información cuando exista una actualización. Además todos los dispositivos móviles se benefician de la depuración de errores, se corrige para uno, se corrige para todos.<br />
<br />
En un principio [[OpenMoko]] está diseñado para [[Neo1973]] de [[FIC]]. Pero en un futuro puede existir para otras plataformas.<br />
<br />
¡¡Únase a nosotros!! colabore con [[OpenMoko | El Proyecto OpenMoko]] a través de cualquiera de nuestras opciones: [[Development resources | recursos del proyecto]], incluyendo: [[Main Page | Página principal]]. Por favor diríjase a: [[Help:Contents | página de ayuda en el wiki]] para obtener información de como colaborar en el wiki. Cordialmente [[Meet the Core Team | grupo de desarrolladores, fundado por FIC, Inc.]] quien lidera el proyecto.<br />
<br />
Existe una [[Introduction |página de introducción]] con [[Introduction#Photos|fotos]] y [[Introduction#Videos|videos]] disponibles. Además esta disponible la página de [[FAQ | Preguntas de Uso Frecuente, PUF]] que puede servirle. Los desarrolladores pueden encontrar de utilidad la bitácora de cambios: [[ChangeLog | Bitácora de desarrollo]].<br />
<br />
Los miembros de la comunidad [[OpenMoko]] desean darle las gracias a [[FIC|FIC Inc.]] por mostrar liderazgo e iniciativa en el proyecto [[OpenMoko]].<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== [[OpenMoko]] Áreas de interés ==<br />
<br />
* [[Basic End-user]] - Información para los usuarios finales.<br />
* [[Advanced End-user]] - Información para usuarios avanzados.Los usuarios avanzados son quienes desean conocer y experimentar más a fondo con el teléfono pero no son programadores :).<br />
* [[Development resources | Project Resources]] page provides a centralized location of all resources such as [[Development resources#Mailing_Lists|mailing lists]], [[Development resources#IRC | communication tools]], and other software development oriented resources.<br />
* [[Application Developer]] -Información técnica para desarrolladores que incluye ideas y especificaciones para el desarrollo de aplicaciones y herramientas para tal fin.<br />
* [[System Developer]] - Información para desarrolladores del sistema base como por ejemplo:,desarrolladores del sistema de inicio(bootloader), del núcleo (kernel) y de bibliotecas de desarrollo.<br />
* [[Hardware Developer]] - Información para personas que son desarrolladores del sistema físico (hardware). En éste vínculo se encuentran las especificaciones y las hojas de datos del hadrware del teléfono así como también de la tarjeta de evaluación.<br />
* [[Community Events]] - Información relacionada con la comunidad, [[Community Events#Past Events | Eventos anteriores ]] y [[Community Events#Past Events#FIC / OpenMoko at Events | próximos]] eventos dónde FIC u [[OpenMoko]] tendrá ó ha tenido presencia.<br />
<br />
== Documentación para desarrolladores ==<br />
<br />
=== Manos a la obra ===<br />
* [[Getting Started with your Neo1973]]<br />
* [[MokoMakefile|Building OpenMoko using the MokoMakefile]] <br />
* [[Building OpenMoko from scratch]]<br />
** Old [[Building OpenMoko from scratch (pre-BBT)]]<br />
* [[Migration to bad block tolerant builds]]<br />
* [[Running OpenMoko on PC]]<br />
** [[Getting Openmoko working on host with Xoo]]<br />
** [[Getting OpenMoko working on host with Xephyr]]<br />
** [[How to run OpenMoko Apps on PC]]<br />
** [[OpenMoko under QEMU]]<br />
* [[Booting from SD]]<br />
<br />
=== Documentos y hojas de datos del «Hardware» ===<br />
* All [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware]] related documentation and specifications are found on the [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware page]].<br />
* The [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 Hardware page]] provides an overview of the hardware components used by the [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 hardware platform]]. PCB Photographs are also included. A [[Disassembling Neo1973 | photo disassemble story]] may be an interesting starting place.<br />
* [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging | Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]] is assisted with the [[Debug Board | Neo1973 debug board]]. A page discussing [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2 | debug board and Neo1973 configurations]] are also provided.<br />
<br />
=== Documentación de refrencia para los programas o «software» ===<br />
* Arquitectura<br />
** [[OpenMokoFramework]] - Sistema de desarrollo para el OpenMoko.<br />
* [[neo1973 host software]]<br />
* Sistema lógico<br />
** Bajo nivel<br />
*** [[u-boot]] - El sistema de inicio.Se incluyen las modificaciones que se han hecho para el OpenMoko.<br />
*** [[kernel]] - El núcleo(kernel) de linux que se usa. Se incluye la documentación d elas modificaciones hechas.<br />
** Espacio de usuario<br />
*** [[gsmd]] - El «demonio» GSM que maneja el módem GSM,<br />
*** [[gpsd]] - El demorio AGPS.<br />
<br />
=== OpenMoko===<br />
* [[OpenEmbedded]] - El entorno de desarrollo para armar la distribución.<br />
* [[Toolchain]] - Las herramientas que se usan para la compilación.<br />
* [[OpenMoko]] - La distribución OpenMoko<br />
** [[OpenMoko2007]] - La primera versión de la misma.<br />
** [[Userspace root image]]<br />
<br />
==== Información relacionada con la interfaz de usuario ====<br />
* [[Look & Feel]] Ver y sentir.(Si señor, la vista entrega más que imágenes;))<br />
* [[Applications]] Aplicaiones<br />
* [[Widgets]] Módulos de la aplicación gráfica.<br />
** [[Widget Inheritance Graph]]<br />
<br />
=== Sin tema pero relacionado con el desarrollo ===<br />
* [[Templates]]<br />
* [[PIM Storage]]<br />
* [[Coding Guidelines]]<br />
* [[OpenMoko#Setting_up_an_OpenMoko_SDK|Como configurar OpenMoko SDK]]<br />
* [[License]] - El Cómo de licencia en el código <br />
* [[Development resources]] - Las fuentes de recursos para los desarrolladores (Listas, svn,irc, ...)<br />
* [[Neo1973 Phase 0]] -- Información relacionada con la «fase 0» para los dueños de los dispositivos <br />
* [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]] -- Puntos de vista acerca de la fase 0 y PUF(Preguntas de uso frecuente).<br />
<br />
== Organización y administración ==<br />
<br />
* [[Shipping Notes]] -Es éste lugar encontrará información acerca de cómo adquirir los productos, el costo de lo mismos relacionados con FIC.<br />
* [[My Account]] - Ideas for what sort of account-based services FIC should provide with the phone.<br />
<br />
== Miscelánea ==<br />
* [[WiFi support in OpenMoko]] - Or rather the lack thereof<br />
* [[Neo1973 and Windows]] - If you want to commit that offence ;) (does not work, help!)<br />
* [[Press Coverage]] - Artículos de prensa, promocionando las cualidades del OpenMoko :).<br />
* [[mFAQ]] - Contrainformación cPUF ('''mFAQ''') - Lo que la prensa dice de forma '''''incorrecta''''' del proyecto OpenMoko.<br />
* [[Wish List]] - Una colección de ideas que en algún futuro quiseramos ver implementadas.<br />
* [[Wish List - Hardware]] - Una colección de ideas de lo que se quisiera tener puesto en teléfono.<br />
* [[Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage|Wish List - Built-in Scripting Language]] - Discussion on a suitable scripting language to be included<br />
* [[Media Content]] - What types of media on the device can we use (that is non-software)?<br />
* [[Testimonials]] - ¿Cómo obtener openmoko?<br />
* [[Buying Interest List]] - (Not official and not a pre-order page) Have you have put money aside for Neo1973? Put your nick here.<br />
* [[iPhone]] - Comparación entre del iPhone de Apple y el FIC Neo1973<br />
* [[Translation]] - Traducción de OpenMoko<br />
* [[Summer of code]] -Nuestra sitio con aplicaciones del proyecto para «Googles Summer of Code»<br />
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<hr />
<div><big>'''Bienvenido al wiki público de [[OpenMoko]]'''</big><br><br />
<small>Para otros idiomas seguir el siguiente vínculo: [[#bottom|otros idiomas]].</small> <br />
<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|right|frontside]]<br />
[[OpenMoko]] es un proyecto de [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Codigo Abierto] para crear el primer sistema operativo libre para teléfonos móviles a nivel mundial.<br />
<br />
El proyecto [[OpenMoko]] es una comunidad a la cual se puede unir toda persona para diseñar su celular ideal.<br />
<br />
La meta a largo plazo de [[OpenMoko]] es que los programas que usen los teléfonos móviles no sean específicos para un sólo tipo de teléfono. Ésto implica que usted puede comprar cualquier móvil y usar cualquier aplicación e instalarla en una amplia gama de dispositivos compatibles. Tampoco hay riesgo de peŕdidfa de información cuando exista una actualización. Además todos los dispositivos móviles se benefician de la depuración de errores, se corrige para uno, se corrige para todos.<br />
<br />
En un principio [[OpenMoko]] está diseñado para [[Neo1973]] de [[FIC]]. Pero en un futuro puede existir para otras plataformas.<br />
<br />
¡¡Únase a nosotros!! colabore con [[OpenMoko | El Proyecto OpenMoko]] a través de cualquiera de nuestras opciones: [[Development resources | recursos del proyecto]], incluyendo: [[Main Page | Página principal]]. Por favor diríjase a: [[Help:Contents | página de ayuda en el wiki]] para obtener información de como colaborar en el wiki. Cordialmente [[Meet the Core Team | grupo de desarrolladores, fundado por FIC, Inc.]] quien lidera el proyecto.<br />
<br />
Existe una [[Introduction |página de introducción]] con [[Introduction#Photos|fotos]] y [[Introduction#Videos|videos]] disponibles. Además esta disponible la página de [[FAQ | Preguntas de Uso Frecuente, PUF]] que puede servirle. Los desarrolladores pueden encontrar de utilidad la bitácora de cambios: [[ChangeLog | Bitácora de desarrollo]].<br />
<br />
Los miembros de la comunidad [[OpenMoko]] desean darle las gracias a [[FIC|FIC Inc.]] por mostrar liderazgo e iniciativa en el proyecto [[OpenMoko]].<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== [[OpenMoko]] Áreas de interés ==<br />
<br />
* [[Basic End-user]] - Información para los usuarios finales.<br />
* [[Advanced End-user]] - Información para usuarios avanzados.Los usuarios avanzados son quienes desean conocer y experimentar más a fondo con el teléfono pero no son programadores :).<br />
* [[Development resources | Project Resources]] page provides a centralized location of all resources such as [[Development resources#Mailing_Lists|mailing lists]], [[Development resources#IRC | communication tools]], and other software development oriented resources.<br />
* [[Application Developer]] -Información técnica para desarrolladores que incluye ideas y especificaciones para el desarrollo de aplicaciones y herramientas para tal fin.<br />
* [[System Developer]] - Información para desarrolladores del sistema base como por ejemplo:,desarrolladores del sistema de inicio(bootloader), del núcleo (kernel) y de bibliotecas de desarrollo.<br />
* [[Hardware Developer]] - Información para personas que son desarrolladores del sistema físico (hardware). En éste vínculo se encuentran las especificaciones y las hojas de datos del hadrware del teléfono así como también de la tarjeta de evaluación.<br />
* [[Community Events]] - Información relacionada con la comunidad, [[Community Events#Past Events | Eventos anteriores ]] y [[Community Events#Past Events#FIC / OpenMoko at Events | próximos]] eventos dónde FIC u [[OpenMoko]] tendrá ó ha tenido presencia.<br />
<br />
== Documentación para desarrolladores ==<br />
<br />
=== Manos a la obra ===<br />
* [[Getting Started with your Neo1973]]<br />
* [[MokoMakefile|Building OpenMoko using the MokoMakefile]] <br />
* [[Building OpenMoko from scratch]]<br />
** Old [[Building OpenMoko from scratch (pre-BBT)]]<br />
* [[Migration to bad block tolerant builds]]<br />
* [[Running OpenMoko on PC]]<br />
** [[Getting Openmoko working on host with Xoo]]<br />
** [[Getting OpenMoko working on host with Xephyr]]<br />
** [[How to run OpenMoko Apps on PC]]<br />
** [[OpenMoko under QEMU]]<br />
* [[Booting from SD]]<br />
<br />
=== Documentos y hojas de datos del «Hardware» ===<br />
* All [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware]] related documentation and specifications are found on the [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware page]].<br />
* The [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 Hardware page]] provides an overview of the hardware components used by the [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 hardware platform]]. PCB Photographs are also included. A [[Disassembling Neo1973 | photo disassemble story]] may be an interesting starting place.<br />
* [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging | Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]] is assisted with the [[Debug Board | Neo1973 debug board]]. A page discussing [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2 | debug board and Neo1973 configurations]] are also provided.<br />
<br />
=== Documentación de refrencia para los programas o «software» ===<br />
* Arquitectura<br />
** [[OpenMokoFramework]] - Sistema de desarrollo para el OpenMoko.<br />
* [[neo1973 host software]]<br />
* Sistema lógico<br />
** Bajo nivel<br />
*** [[u-boot]] - El sistema de inicio.Se incluyen las modificaciones que se han hecho para el OpenMoko.<br />
*** [[kernel]] - El núcleo(kernel) de linux que se usa. Se incluye la documentación d elas modificaciones hechas.<br />
** Espacio de usuario<br />
*** [[gsmd]] - El «demonio» GSM que maneja el módem GSM,<br />
*** [[gpsd]] - El demorio AGPS.<br />
<br />
=== OpenMoko===<br />
* [[OpenEmbedded]] - El entorno de desarrollo para armar la distribución.<br />
* [[Toolchain]] - Las herramientas que se usan para la compilación.<br />
* [[OpenMoko]] - La distribución OpenMoko<br />
** [[OpenMoko2007]] - La primera versión de la misma.<br />
** [[Userspace root image]]<br />
<br />
==== Información relacionada con la interfaz de usuario ====<br />
* [[Look & Feel]] Ver y sentir.(Si señor, la vista entrega más que imágenes;))<br />
* [[Applications]] Aplicaiones<br />
* [[Widgets]] Módulos de la aplicación gráfica.<br />
** [[Widget Inheritance Graph]]<br />
<br />
=== Sin tema pero relacionado con el desarrollo ===<br />
* [[Templates]]<br />
* [[PIM Storage]]<br />
* [[Coding Guidelines]]<br />
* [[OpenMoko#Setting_up_an_OpenMoko_SDK|Como configurar OpenMoko SDK]]<br />
* [[License]] - El Cómo de licencia en el código <br />
* [[Development resources]] - Las fuentes de recursos para los desarrolladores (Listas, svn,irc, ...)<br />
* [[Neo1973 Phase 0]] -- Información relacionada con la «fase 0» para los dueños de los dispositivos <br />
* [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]] -- Puntos de vista acerca de la fase 0 y PUF(Preguntas de uso frecuente).<br />
<br />
== Organización y administración ==<br />
<br />
* [[Shipping Notes]] -Es éste lugar encontrará información acerca de cómo adquirir los productos, el costo de lo mismos relacionados con FIC.<br />
* [[My Account]] - Ideas for what sort of account-based services FIC should provide with the phone.<br />
<br />
== Miscelánea ==<br />
* [[WiFi support in OpenMoko]] - Or rather the lack thereof<br />
* [[Neo1973 and Windows]] - If you want to commit that offence ;) (does not work, help!)<br />
* [[Press Coverage]] - What the press says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[mFAQ]] - The OpenMoko Misinformation FAQ ('''mFAQ''') - What the press '''''incorrectly''''' says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[Wish List]] - A collection of ideas and ideals we'd like to see implemented some day<br />
* [[Wish List - Hardware]] - A collection of ideas we'd like to see in the next Neo release<br />
* [[Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage|Wish List - Built-in Scripting Language]] - Discussion on a suitable scripting language to be included<br />
* [[Media Content]] - What types of media on the device can we use (that is non-software)?<br />
* [[Testimonials]] - How did you get to OpenMoko?<br />
* [[Buying Interest List]] - (Not official and not a pre-order page) Have you have put money aside for Neo1973? Put your nick here.<br />
* [[iPhone]] - Comparación entre del iPhone de Apple y el FIC Neo1973<br />
* [[Translation]] - Traducción de OpenMoko<br />
* [[Summer of code]] -Nuestra sitio con aplicaciones del proyecto para «Googles Summer of Code»<br />
<br />
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<hr />
<div><big>'''Bienvenido al wiki público de [[OpenMoko]]'''</big><br><br />
<small>Para otros idiomas seguir el siguiente vínculo: [[#bottom|otros idiomas]].</small> <br />
<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|right|frontside]]<br />
[[OpenMoko]] es un proyecto de [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Codigo Abierto] para crear el primer sistema operativo libre para teléfonos móviles a nivel mundial.<br />
<br />
El proyecto [[OpenMoko]] es una comunidad a la cual se puede unir toda persona para diseñar su celular ideal.<br />
<br />
La meta a largo plazo de [[OpenMoko]] es que los programas que usen los teléfonos móviles no sean específicos para un sólo tipo de teléfono. Ésto implica que usted puede comprar cualquier móvil y usar cualquier aplicación e instalarla en una amplia gama de dispositivos compatibles. Tampoco hay riesgo de peŕdidfa de información cuando exista una actualización. Además todos los dispositivos móviles se benefician de la depuración de errores, se corrige para uno, se corrige para todos.<br />
<br />
En un principio [[OpenMoko]] está diseñado para [[Neo1973]] de [[FIC]]. Pero en un futuro puede existir para otras plataformas.<br />
<br />
¡¡Únase a nosotros!! colabore con [[OpenMoko | El Proyecto OpenMoko]] a través de cualquiera de nuestras opciones: [[Development resources | recursos del proyecto]], incluyendo: [[Main Page | Página principal]]. Por favor diríjase a: [[Help:Contents | página de ayuda en el wiki]] para obtener información de como colaborar en el wiki. Cordialmente [[Meet the Core Team | grupo de desarrolladores, fundado por FIC, Inc.]] quien lidera el proyecto.<br />
<br />
Existe una [[Introduction |página de introducción]] con [[Introduction#Photos|fotos]] y [[Introduction#Videos|videos]] disponibles. Además esta disponible la página de [[FAQ | Preguntas de Uso Frecuente, PUF]] que puede servirle. Los desarrolladores pueden encontrar de utilidad la bitácora de cambios: [[ChangeLog | Bitácora de desarrollo]].<br />
<br />
Los miembros de la comunidad [[OpenMoko]] desean darle las gracias a [[FIC|FIC Inc.]] por mostrar liderazgo e iniciativa en el proyecto [[OpenMoko]].<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== [[OpenMoko]] Áreas de interés ==<br />
<br />
* [[Basic End-user]] - Información para los usuarios finales.<br />
* [[Advanced End-user]] - Información para usuarios avanzados.Los usuarios avanzados son quienes desean conocer y experimentar más a fondo con el teléfono pero no son programadores :).<br />
* [[Development resources | Project Resources]] page provides a centralized location of all resources such as [[Development resources#Mailing_Lists|mailing lists]], [[Development resources#IRC | communication tools]], and other software development oriented resources.<br />
* [[Application Developer]] -Información técnica para desarrolladores que incluye ideas y especificaciones para el desarrollo de aplicaciones y herramientas para tal fin.<br />
* [[System Developer]] - Información para desarrolladores del sistema base como por ejemplo:,desarrolladores del sistema de inicio(bootloader), del núcleo (kernel) y de bibliotecas de desarrollo.<br />
* [[Hardware Developer]] - Información para personas que son desarrolladores del sistema físico (hardware). En éste vínculo se encuentran las especificaciones y las hojas de datos del hadrware del teléfono así como también de la tarjeta de evaluación.<br />
* [[Community Events]] - Información relacionada con la comunidad, [[Community Events#Past Events | Eventos anteriores ]] y [[Community Events#Past Events#FIC / OpenMoko at Events | próximos]] eventos dónde FIC u [[OpenMoko]] tendrá ó ha tenido presencia.<br />
<br />
== Documentación para desarrolladores ==<br />
<br />
=== Manos a la obra ===<br />
* [[Getting Started with your Neo1973]]<br />
* [[MokoMakefile|Building OpenMoko using the MokoMakefile]] <br />
* [[Building OpenMoko from scratch]]<br />
** Old [[Building OpenMoko from scratch (pre-BBT)]]<br />
* [[Migration to bad block tolerant builds]]<br />
* [[Running OpenMoko on PC]]<br />
** [[Getting Openmoko working on host with Xoo]]<br />
** [[Getting OpenMoko working on host with Xephyr]]<br />
** [[How to run OpenMoko Apps on PC]]<br />
** [[OpenMoko under QEMU]]<br />
* [[Booting from SD]]<br />
<br />
=== Documentos y hojas de datos del «Hardware» ===<br />
* All [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware]] related documentation and specifications are found on the [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware page]].<br />
* The [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 Hardware page]] provides an overview of the hardware components used by the [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 hardware platform]]. PCB Photographs are also included. A [[Disassembling Neo1973 | photo disassemble story]] may be an interesting starting place.<br />
* [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging | Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]] is assisted with the [[Debug Board | Neo1973 debug board]]. A page discussing [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2 | debug board and Neo1973 configurations]] are also provided.<br />
<br />
=== Documentación de refrencia para los programas o «software» ===<br />
* Arquitectura<br />
** [[OpenMokoFramework]] - Sistema de desarrollo para el OpenMoko.<br />
* [[neo1973 host software]]<br />
* Sistema lógico<br />
** Bajo nivel<br />
*** [[u-boot]] - El sistema de inicio.Se incluyen las modificaciones que se han hecho para el OpenMoko.<br />
*** [[kernel]] - El núcleo(kernel) de linux que se usa. Se incluye la documentación d elas modificaciones hechas.<br />
** Espacio de usuario<br />
*** [[gsmd]] - El «demonio» GSM que maneja el módem GSM,<br />
*** [[gpsd]] - El demorio AGPS.<br />
<br />
=== OpenMoko===<br />
* [[OpenEmbedded]] - El entorno de desarrollo para armar la distribución.<br />
* [[Toolchain]] - Las herramientas que se usan para la compilación.<br />
* [[OpenMoko]] - La distribución OpenMoko<br />
** [[OpenMoko2007]] - La primera versión de la misma.<br />
** [[Userspace root image]]<br />
<br />
==== Información relacionada con la interfaz de usuario ====<br />
* [[Look & Feel]] Ver y sentir.(Si señor, la vista entrega más que imágenes;))<br />
* [[Applications]] Aplicaiones<br />
* [[Widgets]] Módulos de la aplicación gráfica.<br />
** [[Widget Inheritance Graph]]<br />
<br />
=== Sin tema pero relacionado con el desarrollo ===<br />
* [[Templates]]<br />
* [[PIM Storage]]<br />
* [[Coding Guidelines]]<br />
* [[OpenMoko#Setting_up_an_OpenMoko_SDK|Como configurar OpenMoko SDK]]<br />
* [[License]] - El Cómo de licencia en el código <br />
* [[Development resources]] - Las fuentes de recursos para los desarrolladores (Listas, svn,irc, ...)<br />
* [[Neo1973 Phase 0]] -- Información relacionada con la «fase 0» para los dueños de los dispositivos <br />
* [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]] -- Impressions of the Phase 0 hardware device, also the Phase 0 FAQ<br />
<br />
== Organización y administración ==<br />
<br />
* [[Shipping Notes]] -Es éste lugar encontrará información acerca de cómo adquirir los productos, el costo de lo mismos relacionados con FIC.<br />
* [[My Account]] - Ideas for what sort of account-based services FIC should provide with the phone.<br />
<br />
== Miscelánea ==<br />
* [[WiFi support in OpenMoko]] - Or rather the lack thereof<br />
* [[Neo1973 and Windows]] - If you want to commit that offence ;) (does not work, help!)<br />
* [[Press Coverage]] - What the press says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[mFAQ]] - The OpenMoko Misinformation FAQ ('''mFAQ''') - What the press '''''incorrectly''''' says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[Wish List]] - A collection of ideas and ideals we'd like to see implemented some day<br />
* [[Wish List - Hardware]] - A collection of ideas we'd like to see in the next Neo release<br />
* [[Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage|Wish List - Built-in Scripting Language]] - Discussion on a suitable scripting language to be included<br />
* [[Media Content]] - What types of media on the device can we use (that is non-software)?<br />
* [[Testimonials]] - How did you get to OpenMoko?<br />
* [[Buying Interest List]] - (Not official and not a pre-order page) Have you have put money aside for Neo1973? Put your nick here.<br />
* [[iPhone]] - Comparación entre del iPhone de Apple y el FIC Neo1973<br />
* [[Translation]] - Traducción de OpenMoko<br />
* [[Summer of code]] -Nuestra sitio con aplicaciones del proyecto para «Googles Summer of Code»<br />
<br />
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[[Category:Information| ]]<br />
[[Category:Categories| ]]</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page/esMain Page/es2007-07-16T20:51:34Z<p>Arw: /* Documentación de refrencia para los programas o «software» */</p>
<hr />
<div><big>'''Bienvenido al wiki público de [[OpenMoko]]'''</big><br><br />
<small>Para otros idiomas seguir el siguiente vínculo: [[#bottom|otros idiomas]].</small> <br />
<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|right|frontside]]<br />
[[OpenMoko]] es un proyecto de [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Codigo Abierto] para crear el primer sistema operativo libre para teléfonos móviles a nivel mundial.<br />
<br />
El proyecto [[OpenMoko]] es una comunidad a la cual se puede unir toda persona para diseñar su celular ideal.<br />
<br />
La meta a largo plazo de [[OpenMoko]] es que los programas que usen los teléfonos móviles no sean específicos para un sólo tipo de teléfono. Ésto implica que usted puede comprar cualquier móvil y usar cualquier aplicación e instalarla en una amplia gama de dispositivos compatibles. Tampoco hay riesgo de peŕdidfa de información cuando exista una actualización. Además todos los dispositivos móviles se benefician de la depuración de errores, se corrige para uno, se corrige para todos.<br />
<br />
En un principio [[OpenMoko]] está diseñado para [[Neo1973]] de [[FIC]]. Pero en un futuro puede existir para otras plataformas.<br />
<br />
¡¡Únase a nosotros!! colabore con [[OpenMoko | El Proyecto OpenMoko]] a través de cualquiera de nuestras opciones: [[Development resources | recursos del proyecto]], incluyendo: [[Main Page | Página principal]]. Por favor diríjase a: [[Help:Contents | página de ayuda en el wiki]] para obtener información de como colaborar en el wiki. Cordialmente [[Meet the Core Team | grupo de desarrolladores, fundado por FIC, Inc.]] quien lidera el proyecto.<br />
<br />
Existe una [[Introduction |página de introducción]] con [[Introduction#Photos|fotos]] y [[Introduction#Videos|videos]] disponibles. Además esta disponible la página de [[FAQ | Preguntas de Uso Frecuente, PUF]] que puede servirle. Los desarrolladores pueden encontrar de utilidad la bitácora de cambios: [[ChangeLog | Bitácora de desarrollo]].<br />
<br />
Los miembros de la comunidad [[OpenMoko]] desean darle las gracias a [[FIC|FIC Inc.]] por mostrar liderazgo e iniciativa en el proyecto [[OpenMoko]].<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== [[OpenMoko]] Áreas de interés ==<br />
<br />
* [[Basic End-user]] - Información para los usuarios finales.<br />
* [[Advanced End-user]] - Información para usuarios avanzados.Los usuarios avanzados son quienes desean conocer y experimentar más a fondo con el teléfono pero no son programadores :).<br />
* [[Development resources | Project Resources]] page provides a centralized location of all resources such as [[Development resources#Mailing_Lists|mailing lists]], [[Development resources#IRC | communication tools]], and other software development oriented resources.<br />
* [[Application Developer]] -Información técnica para desarrolladores que incluye ideas y especificaciones para el desarrollo de aplicaciones y herramientas para tal fin.<br />
* [[System Developer]] - Información para desarrolladores del sistema base como por ejemplo:,desarrolladores del sistema de inicio(bootloader), del núcleo (kernel) y de bibliotecas de desarrollo.<br />
* [[Hardware Developer]] - Información para personas que son desarrolladores del sistema físico (hardware). En éste vínculo se encuentran las especificaciones y las hojas de datos del hadrware del teléfono así como también de la tarjeta de evaluación.<br />
* [[Community Events]] - Información relacionada con la comunidad, [[Community Events#Past Events | Eventos anteriores ]] y [[Community Events#Past Events#FIC / OpenMoko at Events | próximos]] eventos dónde FIC u [[OpenMoko]] tendrá ó ha tenido presencia.<br />
<br />
== Documentación para desarrolladores ==<br />
<br />
=== Manos a la obra ===<br />
* [[Getting Started with your Neo1973]]<br />
* [[MokoMakefile|Building OpenMoko using the MokoMakefile]] <br />
* [[Building OpenMoko from scratch]]<br />
** Old [[Building OpenMoko from scratch (pre-BBT)]]<br />
* [[Migration to bad block tolerant builds]]<br />
* [[Running OpenMoko on PC]]<br />
** [[Getting Openmoko working on host with Xoo]]<br />
** [[Getting OpenMoko working on host with Xephyr]]<br />
** [[How to run OpenMoko Apps on PC]]<br />
** [[OpenMoko under QEMU]]<br />
* [[Booting from SD]]<br />
<br />
=== Documentos y hojas de datos del «Hardware» ===<br />
* All [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware]] related documentation and specifications are found on the [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware page]].<br />
* The [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 Hardware page]] provides an overview of the hardware components used by the [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 hardware platform]]. PCB Photographs are also included. A [[Disassembling Neo1973 | photo disassemble story]] may be an interesting starting place.<br />
* [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging | Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]] is assisted with the [[Debug Board | Neo1973 debug board]]. A page discussing [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2 | debug board and Neo1973 configurations]] are also provided.<br />
<br />
=== Documentación de refrencia para los programas o «software» ===<br />
* Arquitectura<br />
** [[OpenMokoFramework]] - Sistema de desarrollo para el OpenMoko.<br />
* [[neo1973 host software]]<br />
* Sistema lógico<br />
** Bajo nivel<br />
*** [[u-boot]] - El sistema de inicio.Se incluyen las modificaciones que se han hecho para el OpenMoko.<br />
*** [[kernel]] - El núcleo(kernel) de linux que se usa. Se incluye la documentación d elas modificaciones hechas.<br />
** Espacio de usuario<br />
*** [[gsmd]] - El «demonio» GSM que maneja el módem GSM,<br />
*** [[gpsd]] - El demorio AGPS.<br />
<br />
=== OpenMoko===<br />
* [[OpenEmbedded]] - The distribution-building framework<br />
* [[Toolchain]] - The toolchain we use for compilation<br />
* [[OpenMoko]] - The OpenMoko distribution<br />
** [[OpenMoko2007]] - The first intended release of it<br />
** [[Userspace root image]]<br />
<br />
==== Información relacionada con la interfaz de usuario ====<br />
* [[Look & Feel]]<br />
* [[Applications]]<br />
* [[Widgets]]<br />
** [[Widget Inheritance Graph]]<br />
<br />
=== Sin tema pero relacionado con el desarrollo ===<br />
* [[Templates]]<br />
* [[PIM Storage]]<br />
* [[Coding Guidelines]]<br />
* [[OpenMoko#Setting_up_an_OpenMoko_SDK|Como configurar OpenMoko SDK]]<br />
* [[License]] - El Cómo de licencia en el código <br />
* [[Development resources]] - Las fuentes de recursos para los desarrolladores (Listas, svn,irc, ...)<br />
* [[Neo1973 Phase 0]] -- Información relacionada con la «fase 0» para los dueños de los dispositivos <br />
* [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]] -- Impressions of the Phase 0 hardware device, also the Phase 0 FAQ<br />
<br />
== Organización y administración ==<br />
<br />
* [[Shipping Notes]] -Es éste lugar encontrará información acerca de cómo adquirir los productos, el costo de lo mismos relacionados con FIC.<br />
* [[My Account]] - Ideas for what sort of account-based services FIC should provide with the phone.<br />
<br />
== Miscelánea ==<br />
* [[WiFi support in OpenMoko]] - Or rather the lack thereof<br />
* [[Neo1973 and Windows]] - If you want to commit that offence ;) (does not work, help!)<br />
* [[Press Coverage]] - What the press says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[mFAQ]] - The OpenMoko Misinformation FAQ ('''mFAQ''') - What the press '''''incorrectly''''' says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[Wish List]] - A collection of ideas and ideals we'd like to see implemented some day<br />
* [[Wish List - Hardware]] - A collection of ideas we'd like to see in the next Neo release<br />
* [[Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage|Wish List - Built-in Scripting Language]] - Discussion on a suitable scripting language to be included<br />
* [[Media Content]] - What types of media on the device can we use (that is non-software)?<br />
* [[Testimonials]] - How did you get to OpenMoko?<br />
* [[Buying Interest List]] - (Not official and not a pre-order page) Have you have put money aside for Neo1973? Put your nick here.<br />
* [[iPhone]] - Comparación entre del iPhone de Apple y el FIC Neo1973<br />
* [[Translation]] - Traducción de OpenMoko<br />
* [[Summer of code]] -Nuestra sitio con aplicaciones del proyecto para «Googles Summer of Code»<br />
<br />
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<div>En esta parte, se encontrará información de quienes desean ser más que usuarios finales y quieren experimentar con el Neo1973 pero sin programar.<br />
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En este lugar de pondrá información sobre , intalación de programas experimentales, uso y configuración de opciones avanzadas, elaboración de guiones (scripts) y automatización de tareas.<br />
Muchas de las opciones vanazadas necesitan ser programadas por lo que temporalmente esta sección estará vacía. -Esperamos que no durante mucho tiempo (traductor)-<br />
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Puede ver:<br />
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* [[System Developer]]<br />
* [[Application Developer]]<br />
{{Languages|Advanced_End-user}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Press_Coverage/esPress Coverage/es2007-07-03T17:46:10Z<p>Arw: </p>
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[http://www.google.com/trends?q=openmoko%2Cneo1973&ctab=1&geo=all&date=all OpenMoko and Neo1973 on google trends.]<br />
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Aquí se mostrará los comunicados de la prensa sobre OpenMoko y el Neo 1973.Están organizados por idiomas y por fechas. La mas nueva es la primera de arrbiba hacia abajo.<br />
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== Idiomas ==<br />
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=== Inglés(Sin trducir) ===<br />
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==== julio 2007 ====<br />
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==== junio 2007 ====<br />
* [http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2152759,00.asp eweek.com] OpenMoko: An iPhone Alternative for Developers? <br />
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8509737406.html&cid=0 linuxdevices.com] iPhone-like Linux phone delayed<br />
* [http://www.itweek.co.uk/vnunet/news/2192036/first-open-source-mobile-phone IT Week] "OpenMoko preps first open source mobile" Confuses Phase 1 and Phase 2 features.<br />
* [http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2192036/first-open-source-mobile-phone vnunet.com] First open source mobile phone<br />
* [http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/feature-5-cool-linux-powered-phones TechEBlog.com] A brief line-up of the 5 coolest Linux-powered phones.<br />
* [http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1574 Tectonic.co.za] Open source phone plans September launch<br />
* [http://www.hothardware.com/image_popup.aspx?image=big_fic2.jpg&articleid=979&t=a hothardware.com] OpenMoko<br />
* [http://www.texyt.com/FIC+OpenMoko+$350+open+Linux+mobile+phone+launch+00100 Texyt.com] $350 open Linux mobile phone on target for September launch<br />
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==== mayo 2007 ====<br />
* [http://blogs.sun.com/brewin/entry/fic_and_openmoko_thank_you blogs.SUN.com] FIC and OpenMoko - Thank You<br />
* [http://www.pikesoft.com/blog/index.php?itemid=174 PikeSoft.com] JavaFX Mobile: a new smartphone OS contender<br />
* [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310 SFGate.com] Here comes the Sun Conference<br />
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7539760574.html LinuxDevices.com] Sun beams Linux/Java at mobile phones<br />
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==== abril 2007 ====<br />
* [http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9371/openmoko-running-on-a-palm-tx/ Palm Infocenter] OpenMoko running on a palm TX<br />
* [http://jaidev.info/home/blog/archives/2007/04/13/openmoko.html JaidevInfo] OpenMoko<br />
* [http://www.wirelessweek.com/newsletter.aspx?id=137388 Wirelessweek.com] Democracy Hits the Mobile Phone<br />
* [http://elearner.edublogs.org/2007/04/11/technologies-is-that-a-word/ Edublogs.org] Technologies is that a word? <br />
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4777580627.html Linuxdevices.com] 200 million Linux phones to ship by 2012<br />
* [http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070415-palm-embracing-linux-in-the-hopes-of-being-relevant-again.html Ars Technica] Palm embracing Linux in the hopes of being relevant again] (Mentions Neo1973 in passing)<br />
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==== marzo 2007 ====<br />
* [http://www.smartdevicecentral.com/article/OpenMokos+Open+Source+Phone/202546_1.aspx smartdevicecentral.com] OpenMoko's open source phone<br />
* [http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/communications/0,39044192,61996003,00.htm zdnet asia] Passing mention in an article on the Iphone.<br />
* [http://www.wikio.com/news/Sean+Moss-Pultz wikio.com] Sean Moss-Pultz News<br />
* [http://www.edparsons.com/?p=438 edparsons.com] iPhone chipping away at the walls<br />
* [http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/techsploder/2007/03/openmoko_makes_total_sense.html blogs.pcworld.co.nz] OpenMoko makes total sense<br />
* [http://www.totalueberwachung.de/blog/articles/2007/03/08/neo1973-arrived totalueberwachung.de] Neo1973 arrived<br />
* [http://www.makuchaku.info/blog/im-gonna-get-this-one makuchaku.info] I'm gonna get this one<br />
* [http://www.kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/openmoko_and_n800.html kitenet.net] OpenMoko and n800<br />
* [http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/the-neo1973-unboxed dominion.kabel.utwente.nl] The Neo1973 unboxed<br />
* [http://atulchitnis.net/diary/showentry/421 atulchitnis.net] An OpenMoko Phone arrives<br />
* [http://blog.matthewgast.com/2007/03/03/good-luck-openmoko blog.matthewgast.com] Good luck OpenMoko<br />
* [http://vaandoo.blogspot.com/2007/03/openmoko-neo1973-opensource-software.html vaandoo.blogspot.com] OpenMoko Neo1973 opensource software<br />
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7653749655.html linuxdevices.com] OpenMoko update; Neo1973 on sale in March<br />
* [http://www.ministryoftech.com/2007/03/05/the-5-hottest-phones-for-linux-fanatics/ ministryoftech.com] Brief line-up of the 5 hottest phones for Linux fans<br />
* [http://voxilla.com/soapvox/2007/03/01/industry-disruption-really-168 voxilla.com] Article about ETel Sean Moss-Pultz presentation<br />
* [http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/03/eight_great_lin.html blog.wired.com] Gadget Lab: Eight Great Linux Smartphones<br />
* [http://gigaom.com/2007/03/01/openmoko-phone/ gigaom.com] OpenMoko Open-Source Mobile, coming soon - Interview with Sean Moss-Pultz<br />
* [http://www.oreillynet.com/etel/blog/2007/03/openmoko_1.html www.oreillynet.com] ETel coverage<br />
* [http://gordoncook.net/wp/?p=146 gordoncook.net] Short history of Neo1973 and other stuff<br />
* [http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/03/openmoko-details-pricing-availability-for-neo1973/ engadget.com] OpenMoko details pricing, availability for Neo1973<br />
* [http://www.uberpulse.com/us/2007/03/fic_wants_to_rewrite_the_rules_with_open_moko_mobile_phone.php www.uberpulse.com] Some images from ETel<br />
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==== febrero 2007 ====<br />
* [http://www.scullen.ca/2007/02/15/forget-about-the-iphone-neo1973-is-far-more-exciting/ scullen.ca] Forget about the iPone, Neo1973 is far more exciting<br />
* [http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=59124&postcount=4 mobileread.com] Show post<br />
* [http://www.pdasnews.com/articles/2568/1/ pdasnews.com] Linux-powered iPhone killer available online in March<br />
* [http://www.belutz.net/2007/02/05/openmoko/ belutz.net] OpenMoko<br />
* [http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg03686.html mail-archive.com] OpenMoko community mail archive<br />
* [http://www.maclife.com/article/is_three_a_crowd_in_the_touch_screen_phone_arena maclife.com] Is there a crowd in the touch screen phone arena<br />
* [http://gopaultech.com/2007/02/fic-neo1973-linux-smartphone/ gopaultech.com] FIC Neo1973 Linux smartphone<br />
* [http://www.volweb.cz/horvitz/os-info/news-feb07-014.html volweb.cz] Open-source smartphone, with WiFi in version 2<br />
* [http://www.oreillynet.com/etel/blog/2007/02/etel_coverage_openmoko_opens_t.html oreillynet.com] ETel coverage OpenMoko opens<br />
* [http://www.mobilewhack.com/openmoko-neo1973-open-source-phone/ mobilewhack.com] OpenMoko Neo1973 open source phone<br />
* [http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/19/what-tech-would-the-presidents-rock-in-2007/ engadget.com] What tech would the presidents rock in 2007<br />
* [http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/13602 tuxmachines.org] What participation culture<br />
* [http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/category/opensource/openmoko/ vanille-media.de] Opensource OpenMoko<br />
* [http://www.joetech.com/2007/02/15/openmoko-open-source-cell-phone/ joetech.com] OpenMoko open source cell phone<br />
* [http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/02/openmoko_open_s.html makezine.com] OpenMoko open<br />
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9706477996.html linuxdevices.com] Announce of the Openembedded booth at FOSDEM in Brussels.<br />
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2657814070.html linuxdevices.com] Quick interview with Sean and some pictures<br />
* [http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/first-look-the-antiiphone-openmokos-neo1973-236841.php gizmodo.com] Photos and comments on hardware and software<br />
* [http://www.onecompare.com/mobile-news/article-asp~aid~244~pub~56321102~story~openmoko-launch-the-official-portal-for-development-of-the-openmoko-platform onecompare.com] Short news article<br />
* [http://crunchgear.com/2007/02/15/openmokos-open-source-mobile-os crunchgear.com] Holding the phone upside down<br />
* [http://www.slashgear.com/openmoko-and-fic-neo1973-updates-153926.php slashgear.com] Video interview and many pictures<br />
* [http://www.djlosch.com/article_Comparison%3A_iPhone_vs_A1200_vs_Neo1973 djlosch.com] Article comparing the Neo to the iPhone and A1200<br />
* [http://popsci.typepad.com/popsci/2007/02/up_close_and_pe.html popsci.typepad.com] Screenshot of Linux booting on the Neo<br />
* [http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-3742589179435830945&q=Openmoko video.google.com] Presentation of OpenMoko at the FOSDEM<br />
* [http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=business6_feb27_2007 manilastandardtoday.com] Tale of two phones<br />
* [http://blog.printf.net/articles/2007/02/22/unboxing-the-openmoko-phone blog.printf.net] OLPC and older Neo1973.<br />
* [http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/freesoftware/20070228-00.html mako.cc] OLPC and older Neo1973 again.<br />
* [http://www.maclife.com/article/is_three_a_crowd_in_the_touch_screen_phone_arena MacLife] Is Three a Crowd among Touch-Screen Phones?<br />
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==== enero 2007 ====<br />
* [http://blogs.ft.com/techblog/2007/01/openmoko_harks_.html blogs.ft.com] OpenMoko harks back to hello moto<br />
* [http://opensource.sfsu.edu/node/258 opensource.sfsu.edu] Can you hear me now?<br />
* [http://losca.blogspot.com/2007/01/maemo-nokia-n800-has-competitor-in.html losca.blogspot.com] Maemo Nokia n800 has competitor in openness - OpenMoko<br />
* [http://21talks.net/voip/openmoko 21talks.net] OpenMoko: Not as sexy as the iPhone, but it’s a Linux phone<br />
* [http://www.linuxinfusion.com/openmoko-schedule-announced linuxinfusion.com] OpenMoko schedule announced<br />
* [http://users.livejournal.com/_paladine_/tag/smartphone users.livjournal.com] The Worlds First Opensource Linux Smartphone<br />
* [http://www.nungee.com/2007/01/25/openmoko/ nungee.com] OpenMoko<br />
* [http://www.sda-asia.com/sda/features/psecom,id,880,srn,2,channel,developer,nodeid,21,_language,Singapore.html sda-asia.com] OpenMoko Offers Open-source Smart phone T<br />
* [http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/01/15/open_phone/ regdeveloper.co.uk] Open Phone<br />
* [http://www.product-reviews.net/2007/01/17/fic-neo1973-smartphone-open-source-phone/ product-reviews.net] FIC Neo1973 smartphone open source phone<br />
* [http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/openmoko-smartphone-did-they-have-a-time-machine-or-what-229243.php gizmodo.com] OpenMoko smartphone did they have a time machine or what<br />
* [http://www.oreillynet.com/conferences/blog/2007/01/openmoko_workshop_added_to_ete.html oreillynet.com] OpenMoko workshop added to ETel<br />
* [http://www.gadgetell.com/2007/01/openmoko-gets-interviewed-about-new-open-source-fic-neo1973/ gadgetell.com] OpenMoko gets interviewed about new open source FIC Neo1973<br />
* [http://www.slashgear.com/openmoko-interface-im-loving-it-173496.php slashgear.com] OpenMoko interface I'm loving it<br />
* [http://www.gadgetorama.com/news/news_details.php?gorid=2008 gadgetorama.com] OpenMoko news details<br />
* [http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/17/openmoko-vs-iphone-did-apple-copy/ tech.cybernetnews.com] OpenMoko vs iPhone did Apple copy<br />
* [http://techtrails.blogspot.com/2007/01/open-phones-with-open-moko-while.html techtrails.blogspot.com] Open phones with OpenMoko while<br />
* [http://blogger.xs4all.nl/jurjen1/archive/2007/01/17/174341.aspx bloger.xs4all.nl] OpenMoko open source mobile phone<br />
* [http://www.ringnokia.com/2007/01/i_am_highly_cur.html ringnokia.com] I'm highly curious<br />
* [http://www.oreillynet.com/etel/blog/2007/01/iclone_1.html oreillynet.com] iClone<br />
* [http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=17685 forums.scotsnewsletter.com] Show topic<br />
* [http://understandinglimited.com/2007/01/15/iphone/ understandinglimited.com] iPhone and OpenMoko<br />
* [http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/01/12/openmoko-the-integrated-os-mobile-communications-platform-2/ robertogaloppini.net] OpenMoko the intergrated OS mobile communications platform<br />
* [http://www.funambol.com/blog/capo/2007/01/apple-please-do-not-forget-developers.html funambol.com] Apple please do not forget developers<br />
* [http://chopey.blogspot.com/2007/01/iphone-or-not-to-iphone.html chopey.blogspot.com] iPhone or not to iPhone<br />
* [http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2007/01/openmoko.html opendotdotdot.blogspot.com] OpenMoko<br />
* [http://www.e-pcmag.gr/forum/index.php?showtopic=19505 e-pcmag.gr] Show topic<br />
* [http://www.costpernews.com/2007/01/12/anything-you-can-do-we-can-do-better/ costpernews.com] Anything you can do we can do better<br />
* [http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1321 tectonic.co.za] iPhone vs OpenMoko - the Open Alternative<br />
* [http://lwn.net/Articles/217020/rss lwn.net] An OpenMoko update<br />
* [http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/010907-moss-pultz.html networkworld.com] Q&A Building a new open source phone platform<br />
* [http://www.networkcomputing.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=196802226 networkcomputing.com] Startup Promises First Linux Smartphone Based On Open Standards<br />
* [http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2420&Itemid=449 osweekly.com] Mobile Devices Adopt Open Source<br />
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8591201260.html linuxdevices.com] Linux phone market open up?<br />
* [http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2080727,00.asp pcmag.com] Cell phone open up<br />
* [http://sonyericssonz558i.blogurple.com/2007/01/06/23/ sonyericssonz558i.blogurple.com] Sony Ericsson Z558i<br />
* [http://www.sannes.org/?p=5 sannes.org] An Open mobile phone that does what you want<br />
* [http://popsci.typepad.com/ces2007/2007/01/opensource_stri.html Popsci.com] Open Source Strikes Again<br />
* [http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/openmoko-smartphone-did-they-have-a-time-machine-or-what-229243.php Gizmodo.com] OpenMoko interface compared to iPhone<br />
* [http://www.linuxjournal.com/xstatic/abstracts/upfront Linux Journal] Doc Searls in the feb 2007 issue<br />
* [http://www.osdir.com/Article9642.phtml OSDir.com] Mobile Linux for the Mobile Fan] -> [http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=7710 MadPenguin] Mobile Linux for the Mobile Fan<br />
* [http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/davesdownload/archive/070112/a_populist_challenge_to_apples.htm US News] A Populist Challenge to Apple's iPhone<br />
* [http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1321 tectonic.co.za] iPhone vs OpenMoko: The open alternative<br />
* [http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=196802206&subSection=All+Stories InformationWeek] Startup Promises First Linux Smartphone Based On Open Standards<br />
* [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/15/open_phone/ The Register] Open Phones with Open Moko<br />
* [http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/11589 The Tech Report] OpenMoko offers open-source smart phone<br />
* [http://blogs.ft.com/techblog/2007/01/openmoko_harks_.html Financial Times] OpenMoko harks back to Hello Moto<br />
* [http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/20/1551200 Slashdot] OpenMoko Schedule Announced<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRvtAAXTIlg Youtube] Interview with Sean Moss-Pultz ([http://www.monoploid.be/dl/openmoko_sean_interview.ogm mirror in Ogg format])<br />
* [http://www.libervis.com/article/forget_iphone_hail_openmoko_the_true_revolution Libervis.com] Forget iPhone, hail OpenMoko, the true revolution<br />
* [http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/sizemodo-iphone-vs-openmoko-neo1073-229294.php Gizmodo]iPhone vs. Openmoko Neo1973] (please, don't mind the typo i n the title)<br />
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==== diciembre 2006 ====<br />
* [http://www.pikesoft.com/blog/index.php?itemid=133 pikesoft.com] Cheap, totally open Linux phone will ship next month<br />
* [http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=19254 cdrinfo.com] FIC to release Linux based Smartphone<br />
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==== noviembre 2006 ====<br />
* [http://www.ministryoftech.com/2006/11/09/fic-neo1973-smartphone-with-linux-based-openmoko-open-source-platform/ ministryoftech.com] FIC Neo1973 smartphone with linux-based OpenMoko open source platform<br />
* [http://www.mobiletechnews.com/info/2006/11/09/124614.html mobiletechnews.com] OpenMoko Linux mobile platform and Neo1973 smartphone announced<br />
* [http://news.softpedia.com/news/FIC-Neo1973-for-all-the-Linux-Lovers-out-There-40344.shtml news.softpedia.com] FIC Neo1973 for all the Linux lovers out there<br />
* [http://www.openembedded.org/openmoko-fic-choosing-openembedded openembedded.org] OpenMoko FIC choosing openembedded<br />
* [http://news.com.com/2300-1037_3-6134795-1.html news.com.com] FIC's Linux handset<br />
* [http://www.slashphone.com/77/5784.html slashphone.com] OpenMoko Announces Open Source Mobile Communications Platform <br />
* [http://www.arm.com/iqonline/news/marketnews/15616.html arm.com] Open Linux Based, ARM Powered Mobile In Wings<br />
* [http://news.com.com/Second+open+Linux+handset+unveiled/2100-1039_3-6133974.html news.com.tw] Second open Linux handset unveiled<br />
* [http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/11/08/HNlinuxphone_1.html?COMMERCIAL%20LINUX infoworld.com] FIC debuts open Linux-based smartphone <br />
* [http://www.michaeldolan.com/431 michaeldolan.com] A must have: OpenMoko cell phone with GPS and...apt-get<br />
* [http://nandz.blogspot.com/2006/11/my-dream-phone.html nandz.blogspot.com] My dream phone<br />
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html linuxdevices.com] Cheap, hackable Linux smartphone due soon<br />
* [http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7056478804.html linuxdevices.com] First OpenMoKo phone taps dual-licensed SyncML stack<br />
* [http://lwn.net/Articles/208298/ lwn.net] The OpenMoko open phone<br />
* [http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35590 theinquirer.net] A truly open Linux phone with GPS debuts<br />
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=== Alemán ===<br />
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==== June 2007 ====<br />
* [http://www.golem.de/0706/53172.html golem.de] - Linux-Smartphone OpenMoko ab Juli 2007 zu haben <br />
* [http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/91868 heise.de] - Offenes Linux-Smartphone Neo 1973 macht Fortschritte<br />
* [http://www.winfuture.de/news,32641.html winfuture.de] - Open-Source-Handy Neo1973 ab Juli bzw. Oktober<br />
* [http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2007/11385.html pro-linux.de] - OpenMoko wird zum Unternehmen<br />
* [http://de.theinquirer.net/2007/06/14/das_erste_openmoko_kommt.html the inquirer] - Das erste OpenMOKO kommt<br />
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==== April 2007 ====<br />
* [http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2007/11133.html pro-linux] - OpenMoko produziert erste Muster<br />
* [http://www.golem.de/0704/51970.html golem.de] - Open-Source-Handy vor Produktionsbeginn<br />
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==== March 2007 ====<br />
* [http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre042.html Chaosradio Express] - Das neue Projekt zur Entwicklung eines Telefons mit freier Software<br />
* [http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2007/10966.html pro-linux] - OpenMoko sucht Unterstützung<br />
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==== February 2007 ====<br />
* [http://www.digital-living-magazin.de/index.php?pid=17&art=2050&cid=DLnewsletter digital-living-magazin.de] - Linux erobert Mobilfunkmarkt<br />
* [http://www.heise.de/tr/artikel/85138 Technology Review] - Open-Source-Handy, nächster Versuch<br />
* [http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2007/10833.html pro-linux] - OpenMoko-Quellcode angekündigt<br />
* [http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/85354 heise online] - OpenMoko: Linux-Plattform für Handys freigegeben<br />
* [http://www.mobile2day.de/news/news_details.html?nd_ref=6870&n_multi=0&nf_id=0&nt_id=0&f_date_m=01&f_date_y=2007&t_date_m=04&t_date_y=2007&from=archive Mobile2Day] - OpenMoko bringt Details zum Neo1973<br />
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==== November 2006 ====<br />
<br />
* [http://golem.de/0611/48824.html golem.de] - OpenMoko kündigt Open-Source-Handy an<br />
* [http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/80714 heise online] - Smartphone mit offener Linux-Plattform<br />
* [http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2006/10448.html pro-linux] - Offenes Linux-Smartphone »OpenMoko« für Januar 2007 angekündigt<br />
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=== Nórdico(escandinavo) ===<br />
<br />
* [http://www.amobil.no/sniktitt/mobiltelefoner/den_folsomme_linux-mobilen/40176 Amobil.no] Sniktitt: Den følsomme Linux-mobilen<br />
* [http://www.amobil.no/artikkel/markedsutvikling/linux-mobilen_er_i_rute/40138 Amobil.no] Linux-mobilen er i rute<br />
* [http://www.amobil.no/nyhet/mobiltelefoner/openmoko_klart_for_verden/36554 Amobil.no] OpenMoko klart for verden<br />
* [http://www.nyteknik.se/art/48697 NyTeknik] Snart är den öppna Linuxtelefonen här (Swedish) (Translation: this article states free release to selected developers Feb 11, commercial release to developers March 11, and main release to market Sep 11. See also [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/000000.html])<br />
<br />
=== Francés ===<br />
* [http://linuxfr.org/2006/11/08/21596.html LinuxFR] OpenMoko : sortie en janvier d'un téléphone-GPS enfin libre!<br />
<br />
=== Chino ===<br />
<br />
* [http://openmoko.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/openmoko-%E8%88%87-iphone-%E6%AF%94%E8%BC%83%E4%B8%80/ wordpress.com] Comparison between OpenMoko and iPhone<br />
* [http://chinese.engadget.com/2007/06/11/computex-2007-openmoko-neo-1973-linux/ chinese engadget.com] OpenMoko Neo1973 Linux Smartphone<br />
* [http://people.debian.org.tw/~chihchun/2007/05/25/talk-of-openmoko-is-online/ debian.org.tw] Video of OpenMoko at TOSSUG in Taipei<br />
* [http://people.debian.org.tw/~chihchun/2007/05/17/openmoko-at-tossug/ debian.org.tw] OpenMoko at TOSSUG<br />
* [http://magicdesign.blogspot.com/2007/05/free-your-phoneopenmoko.html MagicDesign] Free your phone OpenMoko<br />
* [http://people.debian.org.tw/~chihchun/2007/04/30/have-fun-with-openmokoneo1973/ Debian.org.tw] Have fun with OpenMoko Neo1973<br />
* [http://orzlab.blogspot.com/ Orzlab] When Java meets OpenMoko<br />
* [http://blog.footoo.org/?p=115 FooToo.org] Install OpenMoko Emulator<br />
* [http://www.jollen.org/blog/2007/01/openmoko_announce.html Jollen.org] OpenMoko Kick-Off<br />
* [http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMoko Wikipedia.org] OpenMoko Chinese Wiki<br />
* [http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/champ_yen/article?mid=211&prev=212&next=-1 Yahoo.com.tw] Forget about iPhone, Hail OpenMoko <br />
* [http://www.jollen.org/blog/2006/11/mobile_20_openmoko_linux_smart.html Jollen.org] OpenMoko Linux Smartphone<br />
* [http://blog.roodo.com/ystuan/archives/2733869.html Roodo.com] OpenMoko<br />
<br />
=== Polaco ===<br />
==== mayo 2007 ====<br />
* [http://www.studencka.pl/artykuly.php?AID=770 Gazeta Studencka] (Students Newspaper) "Cellphones of all shapes, unite!" - OpenMoko overview by Krzysztof Kajkowski, "free software" not mentioned in the text.<br />
<br />
=== Japonés ===<br />
<br />
* [http://blog.pasonatech.co.jp/hibi/4079.html pasonatech.co.jp] iPhoneキラー?:オープンソース精神なopenmoko携帯がUSで発売<br />
* [http://journal.mycom.co.jp/articles/2007/06/06/computex04/index.html journal. mycom.com.jp] Computex Taipei 2007<br />
<br />
{{Languages|Press_Coverage}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Basic_End-user/esBasic End-user/es2007-07-03T17:40:01Z<p>Arw: </p>
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<div>Es esta sección ud. encontrará información que guiará a los usuario que deseen su usar su(s) teléfono(s) -smartphones- sin ningún problema,y/o que deseen información general sobre el mismo.<br />
<br />
* [[Press Coverage]] - Lo que dice la prensa sobre openmoko<br />
* [[Shipping Notes]] - Información del como FIC le remite el teléfono.<br />
* [[Wish List]] - Una grana cantidad de ideas y sugerencias de lo que se desee tener algún día en el openmoko.<br />
* [[Wish List - Hardware]] - Un colección de nuevas especificaciones que puede tener las nuevas revisiones del Neo1973<br />
* [[OpenMoko compatible cellphone providers]] - This is a breakdown of OpenMoko-compatible providers around the world<br />
{{Languages|Basic_End-user}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Neo1973_Hardware/esCategory:Neo1973 Hardware/es2007-07-03T17:23:33Z<p>Arw: /* Vistas */</p>
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de información puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se conecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una conexión serie serie -UART- estándar. Esta interfaz está basada en siguientes normas: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== Pantalla de cristal líquido. (LCD)-(LCM) ===<br />
Tiene un tamaño de 2,8 púlgadas -diagonal- (1,7" x 2,27" - 43mm x 58mm) con un tamaño de 480x640 pixeles. Usa el los módulos TD028TTEC1 y el Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT como controlador de la pantalla (LCD).<br />
* Página: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Controladores: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Controlador de iluminación (backlight): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 controlador y S3C2410 SPI -Serial perihal intrerface- primer canal<br />
<br />
==== Pantalla táctil. (Touch Screen) ====<br />
* EL integrado:S3C2410 TS.<br />
* El controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== ====<br />
<br />
Aparentemente es similar a: [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* Hoja de datos de CSR : [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Controlador: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* Controlador de energía (PM) : https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrador ===<br />
* Controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 sistema general de entradas y salidas :) (GPIO).<br />
<br />
=== Huesped USB ===<br />
El controlador USB está incluído en S3C2410<br />
* Controlador: Núcleo de linux(Kernel) ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
Puede ver: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Protocolo (codec) Wolfson ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Aplificador Estéreo -bifónico- ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Audífonos (auriculares) analógicos ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Control de energía ===<br />
El integrado PCF50606 de Philips es usado para tal fin.<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Coenctado a: S3C2410 vía I2C, la dirección del cliente es 0x08. <br />
* Fuientes del controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Pilas (batería o celdas de energía) ===<br />
La [[celda de energía Neo1973 ]] es compatible con la betría BL5C de Nokia.<br />
De acuerdo a [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html ver]Lista .<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Foto] de la pila, dentro del Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Botones ===<br />
El Neo1973 posee dos botones:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|Botón de prendido]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|Botón «auxiliar»]]<br />
<br />
== Historia ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
El primer prototipo, el más simple y sin «bluetooth».<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Vistas =====<br />
Esta es las vista del impreso GTA01Bv4.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Lado de los componentes]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Lado de la pantalla]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de información puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se conecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una conexión serie serie -UART- estándar. Esta interfaz está basada en siguientes normas: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== Pantalla de cristal líquido. (LCD)-(LCM) ===<br />
Tiene un tamaño de 2,8 púlgadas -diagonal- (1,7" x 2,27" - 43mm x 58mm) con un tamaño de 480x640 pixeles. Usa el los módulos TD028TTEC1 y el Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT como controlador de la pantalla (LCD).<br />
* Página: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Controladores: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Controlador de iluminación (backlight): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 controlador y S3C2410 SPI -Serial perihal intrerface- primer canal<br />
<br />
==== Pantalla táctil. (Touch Screen) ====<br />
* EL integrado:S3C2410 TS.<br />
* El controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== ====<br />
<br />
Aparentemente es similar a: [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* Hoja de datos de CSR : [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Controlador: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* Controlador de energía (PM) : https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrador ===<br />
* Controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 sistema general de entradas y salidas :) (GPIO).<br />
<br />
=== Huesped USB ===<br />
El controlador USB está incluído en S3C2410<br />
* Controlador: Núcleo de linux(Kernel) ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
Puede ver: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Protocolo (codec) Wolfson ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Aplificador Estéreo -bifónico- ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Audífonos (auriculares) analógicos ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Control de energía ===<br />
El integrado PCF50606 de Philips es usado para tal fin.<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Coenctado a: S3C2410 vía I2C, la dirección del cliente es 0x08. <br />
* Fuientes del controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Pilas (batería o celdas de energía) ===<br />
La [[celda de energía Neo1973 ]] es compatible con la betría BL5C de Nokia.<br />
De acuerdo a [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html ver]Lista .<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Foto] de la pila, dentro del Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Botones ===<br />
El Neo1973 posee dos botones:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|Botón de prendido]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|Botón «auxiliar»]]<br />
<br />
== Historia ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
El primer prototipo, el más simple y sin «bluetooth».<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
<br />
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de información puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se conecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una conexión serie serie -UART- estándar. Esta interfaz está basada en siguientes normas: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== Pantalla de cristal líquido. (LCD)-(LCM) ===<br />
Tiene un tamaño de 2,8 púlgadas -diagonal- (1,7" x 2,27" - 43mm x 58mm) con un tamaño de 480x640 pixeles. Usa el los módulos TD028TTEC1 y el Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT como controlador de la pantalla (LCD).<br />
* Página: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Controladores: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Controlador de iluminación (backlight): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 controlador y S3C2410 SPI -Serial perihal intrerface- primer canal<br />
<br />
==== Pantalla táctil. (Touch Screen) ====<br />
* EL integrado:S3C2410 TS.<br />
* El controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== ====<br />
<br />
Aparentemente es similar a: [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* Hoja de datos de CSR : [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Controlador: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* Controlador de energía (PM) : https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrador ===<br />
* Controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 sistema general de entradas y salidas :) (GPIO).<br />
<br />
=== Huesped USB ===<br />
El controlador USB está incluído en S3C2410<br />
* Controlador: Núcleo de linux(Kernel) ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
Puede ver: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Protocolo (codec) Wolfson ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Aplificador Estéreo -bifónico- ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Audífonos (auriculares) analógicos ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Control de energía ===<br />
El integrado PCF50606 de Philips es usado para tal fin.<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Coenctado a: S3C2410 vía I2C, la dirección del cliente es 0x08. <br />
* Fuientes del controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Pilas (batería o celdas de energía) ===<br />
La [[celda de energía Neo1973 ]] es compatible con la betría BL5C de Nokia.<br />
De acuerdo a [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html ver]Lista .<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Foto] de la pila, dentro del Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Buttons ===<br />
The Neo1973 features two buttons:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|The Power Button]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|The "Aux" button]]<br />
<br />
== Historia ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
El primer prototipo, el más simple y sin «bluetooth».<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de información puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se conecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una conexión serie serie -UART- estándar. Esta interfaz está basada en siguientes normas: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== Pantalla de cristal líquido. (LCD)-(LCM) ===<br />
Tiene un tamaño de 2,8 púlgadas -diagonal- (1,7" x 2,27" - 43mm x 58mm) con un tamaño de 480x640 pixeles. Usa el los módulos TD028TTEC1 y el Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT como controlador de la pantalla (LCD).<br />
* Página: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Controladores: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Controlador de iluminación (backlight): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 controlador y S3C2410 SPI -Serial perihal intrerface- primer canal<br />
<br />
==== Pantalla táctil. (Touch Screen) ====<br />
* EL integrado:S3C2410 TS.<br />
* El controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== ====<br />
<br />
Aparentemente es similar a: [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* Hoja de datos de CSR : [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Controlador: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* Controlador de energía (PM) : https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrador ===<br />
* Controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 sistema general de entradas y salidas :) (GPIO).<br />
<br />
=== Huesped USB ===<br />
El controlador USB está incluído en S3C2410<br />
* Controlador: Núcleo de linux(Kernel) ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
Puede ver: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Protocolo (codec) Wolfson ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Aplificador Estéreo -bifónico- ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Audífonos (auriculares) analógicos ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Control de energía ===<br />
El integrado PCF50606 de Philips es usado para tal fin.<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Coenctado a: S3C2410 vía I2C, la dirección del cliente es 0x08. <br />
* Fuientes del controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Pilas (batería o celdas de energía) ===<br />
La [[celda de energía Neo1973 ]] es compatible con la betría BL5C de Nokia.<br />
De acuerdo a [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html ver]Lista .<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Foto] de la pila, dentro del Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Buttons ===<br />
The Neo1973 features two buttons:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|The Power Button]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|The "Aux" button]]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
This is the most simple, non-bluetooth version of the prototype.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
<br />
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de información puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se conecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una conexión serie serie -UART- estándar. Esta interfaz está basada en siguientes normas: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== Pantalla de cristal líquido. (LCD)-(LCM) ===<br />
Tiene un tamaño de 2,8 púlgadas -diagonal- (1,7" x 2,27" - 43mm x 58mm) con un tamaño de 480x640 pixeles. Usa el los módulos TD028TTEC1 y el Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT como controlador de la pantalla (LCD).<br />
* Página: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Controladores: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Controlador de iluminación (backlight): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 controlador y S3C2410 SPI -Serial perihal intrerface- primer canal<br />
<br />
==== Pantalla táctil. (Touch Screen) ====<br />
* EL integrado:S3C2410 TS.<br />
* El controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== ====<br />
<br />
Aparentemente es similar a: [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* Hoja de datos de CSR : [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Controlador: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* Controlador de energía (PM) : https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrador ===<br />
* Controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 sistema general de entradas y salidas :) (GPIO).<br />
<br />
=== Huesped USB ===<br />
El controlador USB está incluído en S3C2410<br />
* Controlador: Núcleo de linux(Kernel) ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
Puede ver: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Protocolo (codec) Wolfson ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Aplificador Estéreo -bifónico- ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Audífonos (auriculares) analógicos ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Control de energía ===<br />
El integrado PCF50606 de Philips es usado para tal fin.<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Coenctado a: S3C2410 vía I2C, la dirección del cliente es 0x08. <br />
* Fuientes del controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Battery ===<br />
The [[Neo1973 Battery]] is compatible with a Nokia BL5C battery.<br />
According to [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html this] post on the mailinglist.<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Photo] of the battery inside the Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Buttons ===<br />
The Neo1973 features two buttons:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|The Power Button]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|The "Aux" button]]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
This is the most simple, non-bluetooth version of the prototype.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
<br />
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<hr />
<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de información puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se conecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una conexión serie serie -UART- estándar. Esta interfaz está basada en siguientes normas: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== Pantalla de cristal líquido. (LCD)-(LCM) ===<br />
Tiene un tamaño de 2,8 púlgadas -diagonal- (1,7" x 2,27" - 43mm x 58mm) con un tamaño de 480x640 pixeles. Usa el los módulos TD028TTEC1 y el Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT como controlador de la pantalla (LCD).<br />
* Página: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Controladores: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Controlador de iluminación (backlight): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 controlador y S3C2410 SPI -Serial perihal intrerface- primer canal<br />
<br />
==== Pantalla táctil. (Touch Screen) ====<br />
* EL integrado:S3C2410 TS.<br />
* El controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== ====<br />
<br />
Aparentemente es similar a: [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* Hoja de datos de CSR : [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Controlador: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* Controlador de energía (PM) : https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrador ===<br />
* Controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 sistema general de entradas y salidas :) (GPIO).<br />
<br />
=== Huesped USB ===<br />
El controlador USB está incluído en S3C2410<br />
* Controlador: Núcleo de linux(Kernel) ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
Puede ver: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Protocolo (codec) Wolfson ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Aplificador Estéreo -bifónico- ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Audífonos (auriculares) analógicos ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Power Management ===<br />
A Philips PCF50606 is used for power management.<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* User Manual: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 via I2C, client address is 0x08. <br />
* Driver Source: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Battery ===<br />
The [[Neo1973 Battery]] is compatible with a Nokia BL5C battery.<br />
According to [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html this] post on the mailinglist.<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Photo] of the battery inside the Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Buttons ===<br />
The Neo1973 features two buttons:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|The Power Button]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|The "Aux" button]]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
This is the most simple, non-bluetooth version of the prototype.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de información puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se conecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una conexión serie serie -UART- estándar. Esta interfaz está basada en siguientes normas: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== Pantalla de cristal líquido. (LCD)-(LCM) ===<br />
Tiene un tamaño de 2,8 púlgadas -diagonal- (1,7" x 2,27" - 43mm x 58mm) con un tamaño de 480x640 pixeles. Usa el los módulos TD028TTEC1 y el Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT como controlador de la pantalla (LCD).<br />
* Página: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Controladores: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Controlador de iluminación (backlight): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 controlador y S3C2410 SPI -Serial perihal intrerface- primer canal<br />
<br />
==== Pantalla táctil. (Touch Screen) ====<br />
* EL integrado:S3C2410 TS.<br />
* El controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== ====<br />
<br />
Aparentemente es similar a: [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* Hoja de datos de CSR : [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Controlador: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* Controlador de energía (PM) : https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrador ===<br />
* Controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 sistema general de entradas y salidas :) (GPIO).<br />
<br />
=== Huesped USB ===<br />
El controlador USB está incluído en S3C2410<br />
* Controlador: Núcleo de linux(Kernel) ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
See also: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Wolfson Codec ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Stereo Amplifier ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Analog wired Headset ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Power Management ===<br />
A Philips PCF50606 is used for power management.<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* User Manual: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 via I2C, client address is 0x08. <br />
* Driver Source: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Battery ===<br />
The [[Neo1973 Battery]] is compatible with a Nokia BL5C battery.<br />
According to [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html this] post on the mailinglist.<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Photo] of the battery inside the Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Buttons ===<br />
The Neo1973 features two buttons:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|The Power Button]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|The "Aux" button]]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
This is the most simple, non-bluetooth version of the prototype.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
<br />
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de información puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se conecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una conexión serie serie -UART- estándar. Esta interfaz está basada en siguientes normas: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== Pantalla de cristal líquido. (LCD)-(LCM) ===<br />
Tiene un tamaño de 2,8 púlgadas -diagonal- (1,7" x 2,27" - 43mm x 58mm) con un tamaño de 480x640 pixeles. Usa el los módulos TD028TTEC1 y el Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT como controlador de la pantalla (LCD).<br />
* Página: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Controladores: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Controlador de iluminación (backlight): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 controlador y S3C2410 SPI -Serial perihal intrerface- primer canal<br />
<br />
==== Pantalla táctil. (Touch Screen) ====<br />
* EL integrado:S3C2410 TS.<br />
* El controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== ====<br />
<br />
Aparentemente es similar a: [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* Hoja de datos de CSR : [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Controlador: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* Controlador de energía (PM) : https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrador ===<br />
* Controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 sistema general de entradas y salidas :) (GPIO).<br />
<br />
=== USB Host ===<br />
The USB Host controller is inside the S3C2410<br />
* Driver: Stock Linux kernel ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
See also: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Wolfson Codec ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Stereo Amplifier ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Analog wired Headset ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Power Management ===<br />
A Philips PCF50606 is used for power management.<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* User Manual: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 via I2C, client address is 0x08. <br />
* Driver Source: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Battery ===<br />
The [[Neo1973 Battery]] is compatible with a Nokia BL5C battery.<br />
According to [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html this] post on the mailinglist.<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Photo] of the battery inside the Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Buttons ===<br />
The Neo1973 features two buttons:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|The Power Button]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|The "Aux" button]]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
This is the most simple, non-bluetooth version of the prototype.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
<br />
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de información puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se conecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una conexión serie serie -UART- estándar. Esta interfaz está basada en siguientes normas: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== Pantalla de cristal líquido. (LCD)-(LCM) ===<br />
Tiene un tamaño de 2,8 púlgadas -diagonal- (1,7" x 2,27" - 43mm x 58mm) con un tamaño de 480x640 pixeles. Usa el los módulos TD028TTEC1 y el Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT como controlador de la pantalla (LCD).<br />
* Página: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Controladores: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Controlador de iluminación (backlight): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 controlador y S3C2410 SPI -Serial perihal intrerface- primer canal<br />
<br />
==== Pantalla táctil. (Touch Screen) ====<br />
* EL integrado:S3C2410 TS.<br />
* El controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== ====<br />
<br />
Aparentemente es similar a: [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Hoja de datos: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* Hoja de datos de CSR : [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Controlador: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* Controlador de energía (PM) : https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrator ===<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 GPIO<br />
<br />
=== USB Host ===<br />
The USB Host controller is inside the S3C2410<br />
* Driver: Stock Linux kernel ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
See also: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Wolfson Codec ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Stereo Amplifier ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Analog wired Headset ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Power Management ===<br />
A Philips PCF50606 is used for power management.<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* User Manual: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 via I2C, client address is 0x08. <br />
* Driver Source: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Battery ===<br />
The [[Neo1973 Battery]] is compatible with a Nokia BL5C battery.<br />
According to [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html this] post on the mailinglist.<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Photo] of the battery inside the Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Buttons ===<br />
The Neo1973 features two buttons:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|The Power Button]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|The "Aux" button]]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
This is the most simple, non-bluetooth version of the prototype.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de información puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se conecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una conexión serie serie -UART- estándar. Esta interfaz está basada en siguientes normas: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== Pantalla de cristal líquido. (LCD)-(LCM) ===<br />
Tiene un tamaño de 2,8 púlgadas -diagonal- (1,7" x 2,27" - 43mm x 58mm) con un tamaño de 480x640 pixeles. Usa el los módulos TD028TTEC1 y el Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT como controlador de la pantalla (LCD).<br />
* Página: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Controladores: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Controlador de iluminación (backlight): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* En interfaz con: S3C2410 controlador y S3C2410 SPI -Serial perihal intrerface- primer canal<br />
<br />
==== Pantalla táctil. (Touch Screen) ====<br />
* EL integrado:S3C2410 TS.<br />
* El controlador: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== ====<br />
<br />
Aparentemente es similar a: [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, using CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* CSR Data Sheet: [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Driver: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* PM Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrator ===<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 GPIO<br />
<br />
=== USB Host ===<br />
The USB Host controller is inside the S3C2410<br />
* Driver: Stock Linux kernel ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
See also: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Wolfson Codec ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Stereo Amplifier ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Analog wired Headset ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Power Management ===<br />
A Philips PCF50606 is used for power management.<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* User Manual: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 via I2C, client address is 0x08. <br />
* Driver Source: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Battery ===<br />
The [[Neo1973 Battery]] is compatible with a Nokia BL5C battery.<br />
According to [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html this] post on the mailinglist.<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Photo] of the battery inside the Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Buttons ===<br />
The Neo1973 features two buttons:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|The Power Button]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|The "Aux" button]]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
This is the most simple, non-bluetooth version of the prototype.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
<br />
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de información puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se conecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una conexión serie serie -UART- estándar. Esta interfaz está basada en siguientes normas: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== LCD Module (LCM) ===<br />
This is a 2.8" diagonal (1.7" x 2.27" - 43mm x 58mm) 480x640 toppoly (tpo) TD028TTEC1 module, using a Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT LCD Driver Chipset.<br />
* Homepage: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Backlight Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 Display Controller and S3C2410 SPI Interface channel 1<br />
<br />
==== Touch Screen ====<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 TS controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== Stylus ====<br />
<br />
Seemingly identical to [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem this one on ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, using CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* CSR Data Sheet: [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Driver: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* PM Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrator ===<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 GPIO<br />
<br />
=== USB Host ===<br />
The USB Host controller is inside the S3C2410<br />
* Driver: Stock Linux kernel ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
See also: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Wolfson Codec ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Stereo Amplifier ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Analog wired Headset ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Power Management ===<br />
A Philips PCF50606 is used for power management.<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* User Manual: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 via I2C, client address is 0x08. <br />
* Driver Source: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Battery ===<br />
The [[Neo1973 Battery]] is compatible with a Nokia BL5C battery.<br />
According to [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html this] post on the mailinglist.<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Photo] of the battery inside the Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Buttons ===<br />
The Neo1973 features two buttons:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|The Power Button]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|The "Aux" button]]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
This is the most simple, non-bluetooth version of the prototype.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones (programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma (sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataforma que toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]]. Puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Pantalla (parte frontal)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Componentes (parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==Experiencias de los usuarios con el hardware de Fase 0==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesador ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima de 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) unida al controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: Controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Ésta es la única memoria flash del dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 se inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash. Para una descripción más detallada sobre cómo se ha usado, por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria RAM ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) unida al controlador SDRAM S3C2410.<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 en el espacio de usuario<br />
* Controlador PM: [https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch]<br />
* Jack de antena GSM/GPRS accesible (al retirar la tapa de la batería)<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Digital CALYPSO ====<br />
Lamentamos no poder suministrar muchos detalles del Chipset GSM debido a exigencias estrictas establecidas en los Acuerdos de Confidencialidad (Non Disclosure Agreement, NDA). No obstante, el acceso a este nivel de informacion puede ser innecesario, puesto que este circuito integrado se interconecta con el S3C2410 por medio de una linea serie UART estandar. Esta interface esta basada en las normas siguientes: [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10]<br />
<br />
==== Circuito Integrado de Banda Base Analógica TWL3014 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== Emisor-receptor RF TRF6151 ====<br />
Página del producto: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Soporta cuatro bandas RF<br><br />
Soporta GPRS Clases 12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS de Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Conectado a: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Controlador: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* Controlador PM: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Conector de antena GPS accesible externamente del tipo MMCX<br />
<br />
No habrá un driver funcional hasta al menos mitad de Abril.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
El Neo1973 dispone de una microSD, también conocida como ranura Transflash. <br />
Deberia también soportar SDHC, pero esta funcion no ha sido verificada. Si funciona, las tarjetas >2G deberian funcionar sin problemas. Como no existen tarjetas microSD sobre 2G por el momento, no ha sido posible realizar las verificaciones.<br />
<br />
MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== LCD Module (LCM) ===<br />
This is a 2.8" diagonal (1.7" x 2.27" - 43mm x 58mm) 480x640 toppoly (tpo) TD028TTEC1 module, using a Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT LCD Driver Chipset.<br />
* Homepage: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Backlight Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 Display Controller and S3C2410 SPI Interface channel 1<br />
<br />
==== Touch Screen ====<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 TS controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== Stylus ====<br />
<br />
Seemingly identical to [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem this one on ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, using CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* CSR Data Sheet: [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Driver: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* PM Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrator ===<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 GPIO<br />
<br />
=== USB Host ===<br />
The USB Host controller is inside the S3C2410<br />
* Driver: Stock Linux kernel ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
See also: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Wolfson Codec ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Stereo Amplifier ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Analog wired Headset ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Power Management ===<br />
A Philips PCF50606 is used for power management.<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* User Manual: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 via I2C, client address is 0x08. <br />
* Driver Source: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Battery ===<br />
The [[Neo1973 Battery]] is compatible with a Nokia BL5C battery.<br />
According to [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html this] post on the mailinglist.<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Photo] of the battery inside the Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Buttons ===<br />
The Neo1973 features two buttons:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|The Power Button]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|The "Aux" button]]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
This is the most simple, non-bluetooth version of the prototype.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
<br />
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<div>[[OpenMoko]] Es un conjuto de aplicaciones(programas) que se encuentran en un nivel superior sobre una determinada plataforma(sin importar cual sea).El [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | sistema físico (Hardware)del Neo1973 ]] es la primera plataformaque toma la ventaja de usar la distribución [[OpenMoko| OpenMoko ]].Usted puede encontar las epecificaciones del [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973]] leyendos estas páginas de introducción y las páginas especifícas para el [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Neo1973 ]] descritas en la parte de abajo.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|thumb|400px|Amverso deñ display ]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|thumb|400px|Reverso del sitema(parte trasera)]]<br />
<br />
==User experiences of Phase 0 hardware==<br />
[[Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review]]<br />
<br />
== Dimensiones físicas ==<br />
* 120,7 x 62 x 18,5 mm (4,75 x 2,44 x 0,728 inch)<br />
* 184 +/- 5 g (6,5 ounces)<br />
<br />
== Componentes principales ==<br />
=== Procesadorr ===<br />
El «cerebro» del sistema (CPU) Neo1973 is es un Samsung S3C2410AL-26 (Con una frecuencia máxima 266 MHz)<br />
<br />
* Página del procesador: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm S3C2410.htm]<br />
* Manual de usuario: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/2410UserManual.pdf 2410UserManual.pdf]<br />
* Archivo BSDL: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd S3C2410_BGA_BSDLJTAGFILE.bsd]<br />
* Descripción de terminales (GPIO Assignments): https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt<br />
<br />
=== Memoria Flash ===<br />
64MB Samsung NAND flash (K9F1208U0B) empotrada a un controlador NAND: S3C2410.<br />
<br />
* Página de la memoria: [http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/K9F1208U0B.htm K9F1208U0B.htm]<br />
* Hojas de datos: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/NANDFlash/SLC_SmallBlock/512Mbit/K9F1208U0B/ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf ds_k9f1208x0b_rev03.pdf]<br />
* Conectado a : controlador NAND S3C2410.<br />
<br />
Sólo existe esta memoria flash en el dispositivo. El procesador S3C2410 inicia directamente desde la nand usando el [[S3C2410 Steppingstone]].<br />
<br />
Nosotros sólo usamos programas libres (free software) y sistemas de archivos no propietarios para la flash.Para una descripción más detallada y so bre «el cómo» por favor diríjase a:[[NAND bad blocks]]<br />
<br />
=== Memoria R.A.M. ===<br />
128MB SDRAM (2x Samsung K4M511633C) attached to S3C2410 SDRAM controller<br />
* Página del producto: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/K4M511633C.htm K4M511633C.htm]<br />
* Hojas de especificaciones: [http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/512Mbit/K4M511633C/ds_k4m511633c.pdf ds_k4m511633c.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 <br />
<br />
===Sistema de comunicación GSM/GPRS ===<br />
El sistema de comunicación (módem) GSM/GPRS está basado en el sistema Calypso de Texas Instruments.<br />
<br />
* Conectado a : S3C2410 UART1 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS), /dev/ttySAC0 in userspace<br />
* Controlador PM : https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Accessible GSM/GPRS antenna jack (if battery cover is removed)<br />
<br />
==== CALYPSO digital baseband ====<br />
Unfortunately we cannot provide many details on the GSM chipset due to very tight NDAs. However, this is not neccessarily required, since it interfaces using a standard UART serial line with the S3C2410. On that interface, [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.05/ GSM 07.05], [http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/07_series/07.10/ GSM 07.10] and other standardized protocols are used.<br />
<br />
==== TWL3014 analog baseband ====<br />
Product Homepage: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12295&contentId=4703 TWL3014]<br />
<br />
==== TRF6151 RF Transceiver ====<br />
Product Homepage: [http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12296&contentId=4701 TRF6151] <br><br />
Quad-band support<br><br />
GPRS Class12/CS4 <br><br />
<br />
=== [[Hardware:AGPS|AGPS]] ===<br />
Hammerhead PMB 2520 AGPS from Global Locate.<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.globalocate.com/SEMICONDUCTORS/SEMI_HAMMER_Frameset.htm Hammerhead]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 UART2 (full-uart, RxD, TxD, CTS, RTS) /dev/ttySAC1 in userspace<br />
* Driver: Implemented as plugin for the gpsd daemon ([[gpsd]])<br />
* PM Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
* Externally-accessible GPS antenna connector of type MMCX<br />
<br />
This will not have a working driver till at least mid April.<br />
<br />
=== microSD-Card ===<br />
The Neo1973 has one microSD aka Transflash slot.<br />
It should support SDHC, but this has not been tested. If this works, cards >2G should work with no problems. As there are no microSD cards over 2G at the moment, it hasn't been tested. MicroSD slot is [[Disassembling_Neo1973#Opening_back_cover|under battery]].<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 MMC/SD controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c_mci.patch<br />
* [[Supported microSD cards]]<br />
* Specifications: [http://www.sdcard.org/confirm/confirm_memorycard.aspx SD Simplified Specification], [http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/AN_MMCA050419.pdf MMC (partial)], [http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Manuals/manual-rs-mmcv1.0.pdf MMC (product manual)]<br />
<br />
=== LCD Module (LCM) ===<br />
This is a 2.8" diagonal (1.7" x 2.27" - 43mm x 58mm) 480x640 toppoly (tpo) TD028TTEC1 module, using a Toshiba JBT6K74 TFT LCD Driver Chipset.<br />
* Homepage: [http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm]<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-jbt6k74.patch<br />
* Backlight Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-backlight.patch<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 Display Controller and S3C2410 SPI Interface channel 1<br />
<br />
==== Touch Screen ====<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 TS controller<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch<br />
<br />
==== Stylus ====<br />
<br />
Seemingly identical to [http://cgi.ebay.com/4in1-PDA-Stylus-LED-Light-Torch-Laser-Pointer-Pen-h7_W0QQitemZ280089656134QQihZ018QQcategoryZ48677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem this one on ebay]<br />
<br />
=== Bluetooth ===<br />
Delta DFBM-CS320 Class2 Module, using CSR BlueCore4<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/vco/BT/download/pdf/CS/2.DFBM-CS320.pdf 2.DFBM-CS320.pdf]<br />
* CSR Data Sheet: [http://www.csrsupport.com/download/2302/CS-101564-DSP10%20BlueCore4-ROM%20Product%20Data%20Sheet.pdf CS-101564-DSP10 BlueCore4-ROM Product Data Sheet.pdf]<br />
* Driver: Stock Linux Kernel BlueZ<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 USB Host controller (OHCI)<br />
* PM Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch<br />
<br />
=== Vibrator ===<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-vibrator.patch<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 GPIO<br />
<br />
=== USB Host ===<br />
The USB Host controller is inside the S3C2410<br />
* Driver: Stock Linux kernel ohci_hcd<br />
<br />
=== USB Device ===<br />
The USB Device controller is inside the S3C2410 <br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_udc.patch<br />
* Please see [[USB Product IDs]] on information about which Vendor/Product IDs we use<br />
* 1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host.<br />
* Mini-AB connector similar to [http://www.cypressindustries.com/shoponline/proddetail.asp?prod=CCMUSBAB-32005-700&cat=34 this one].<br />
<br />
=== Audio ===<br />
See also: [[Neo1973 Audio Subsystem]]<br />
<br />
==== Wolfson Codec ====<br />
There's a WM8753 Wolfson Microelectronics CODEC (This is not a 'smart' codec that can interpret MP3/... it is a simple dumb 'sound card'.<br />
* Product Homepage: http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8753/<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8753.pdf WM8753.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 IIS interface (PCM data), S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
* Driver: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch<br />
<br />
==== Stereo Amplifier ====<br />
There's a National Semiconductor [[LM4857]] Stereo Amplifier at the analog audio output of the WM8753<br />
<br />
* Product Homepage: [http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4857.html LM4857.html]<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.national.com/ds.cgi/LM/LM4857.pdf LM4857.pdf]<br />
* Connects to: S3C2410 I2C (Control)<br />
<br />
==== Analog wired Headset ====<br />
There's a four-ring 2.5mm stereo jack which provides connectivity to old-fashioned wired headsets.<br />
<br />
The headsets used by Motorola smartphones (A780,A1200, ...) and the V-360 have a compatible configuration.<br />
<br />
==== Bluetooth Headset ====<br />
This one is wired via PCM bus from the CSR Bluetooth chip to the Wolfson codec.<br />
<br />
=== Power Management ===<br />
A Philips PCF50606 is used for power management.<br />
<br />
* Data Sheet: [http://www.nxp.com/acrobat/literature/9397/75009763.pdf PCF50606/605]<br />
* User Manual: [http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf pcf50606.pdf]<br />
* Connected to: S3C2410 via I2C, client address is 0x08. <br />
* Driver Source: https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-pcf50606.patch<br />
<br />
=== Battery ===<br />
The [[Neo1973 Battery]] is compatible with a Nokia BL5C battery.<br />
According to [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003758.html this] post on the mailinglist.<br />
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Image:Neo1973-with-BL5C-battery.png Photo] of the battery inside the Neo1973.<br />
<br />
=== Buttons ===<br />
The Neo1973 features two buttons:<br />
# [[Neo1973 Power button|The Power Button]]<br />
# [[Neo1973 AUX button|The "Aux" button]]<br />
<br />
== History ==<br />
=== GTA01 ===<br />
This is the most simple, non-bluetooth version of the prototype.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v3 ====<br />
First generation of prototypes that was given to internal OpenMoko software developers.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately not useful at all due to non-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x0000130<br />
<br />
==== GTA01v4 ====<br />
Second generation of prototypes that was given to Harald + Mickey.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately still not useful due to half-working touchscreen.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000140<br />
<br />
=== GTA01B ===<br />
This is the bluetooth-enabled fork of GTA01<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv2 ====<br />
This is the first produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000220<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv3 ====<br />
This is the second produced version of the bluetooth-enabled version. It contains mainly GPS-related fixes.<br />
<br />
* ATAG_REVISION: 0x00000230<br />
<br />
This is the version that is shipped in Phase 0<br />
<br />
===== GTA01Bv3 Errata =====<br />
====== PMU unable to resume from suspend ======<br />
Due to use of wrong GPIO/EINT pin, the PMU cannot wake-up the phone after suspend. This means, specifically, '''the following events can not bring the phone back from suspend-to-ram''':<br />
* PMU RTC Alarm<br />
* Power button press<br />
* Charger events (charger insertion/removal/error)<br />
* Low battery<br />
<br />
====== Stand-by time extremely low ======<br />
This is due to a design bug resulting in at least 30mA additional standby current, since we cannot properly switch off the power supply to the S3C2410 PLL's. There is nothing we can do to change this with post-production fixes. GTA01Bv4 will address this issue.<br />
<br />
====== GSM doesn't resume phone from suspend ======<br />
The GSM modem currently doesn't signalize a wakeup interrupt to the S3C2410 in case there's some noteworthy event, such as incoming call, loss of network, incoming SMS or the like.<br />
<br />
This is a serious issue, but can be fixed with a GSM Modem Firmware update.<br />
<br />
====== GSM Sidetone too loud ======<br />
The local feedback sidetone (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone]) is too loud. This will be addressed in a GSM firmware update<br />
<br />
====== Bad block ======<br />
Due to an error in the production process, the factory-programmed NAND bad block information has been lost. This means that some blocks in the flash will wear out rapidly, which might become as bad as rendering the device unusable.<br />
<br />
==== GTA01Bv4 ====<br />
This is the version that will be shipped in Phase 1<br />
<br />
===== Looks =====<br />
This is what the GTA01Bv4 PCB looks like without the shielding cans, which will be fitted later.<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_front.png|thumb|400px|Component side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b_v4_back.png|thumb|400px|Display side]]<br />
<br />
===== Changes from GTA01Bv3 =====<br />
# Fix all Errata items from GTA01Bv3<br />
# Add I2C, SPI and one irq and wakeup capable GPIO pin to debug port plus have test pads for all these signals (for soldering wires directly on the pcb)<br />
# Fix a number of production related details and minor hardware details that are not user-visible<br />
<br />
== Distinguishing hardware revisions ==<br />
=== Inside the [[Bootloader]] ===<br />
Every hardware revision has its own u-boot image type. Thus, the bootloader has the revision hard-coded.<br />
The hardware revision is passed on to the kernel via the ATAG mechanism (ATAG_REVISION)<br />
<br />
=== Inside the [[Kernel]] ===<br />
The kernel receives the ATAG_REVISION during bootup, and saves its contents in the "system_rev" global variable.<br />
<br />
=== From Userspace ===<br />
The kernel exports the system_rev variable in /proc/cpuinfo as "Revision :" line.<br />
<br />
== Approval ==<br />
*[http://www.cetest.nl/ CE] '''(Is this the proper site for CE?)'''<br />
*[http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]]<br />
<br />
{{Languages|:Category:Neo1973 Hardware}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware_Developer/esHardware Developer/es2007-05-29T00:28:32Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div>Es esta sección usted encontrará información sobre las herramientas para desarrolladores del hardware.<br />
<br />
== Hardware/ Parte física ==<br />
<br />
* [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Descripción física del Neo1973 (Hardware)]] - El primer teléfono de FIC con OpenMoko<br />
** [[Disassembling Neo1973]] -Descripción fotográfica del desemsanblaje del Neo1973<br />
* [[Debug Board]] -- Tarjeta de depuración para el Neo1973. <br />
** [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2]] (Segunda versión de la tarjeta anterior)<br />
** [[Connecting_GTA01Bv2_with_Debug_Board]] (Para la primera versión de la tarjeta )<br />
** [[Debug Board v1]] - La versión anterior de la tarjeta.<br />
* [[QT2410]] - La tarjeta de desarrollo dutante sus primeros días :) (S3C2410)<br />
{{Languages|Hardware_Developer}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]][[Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]]</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware_DeveloperHardware Developer2007-05-29T00:19:27Z<p>Arw: /* Hardware */</p>
<hr />
<div>In this section you will find information geared towards hardware developers.<br />
<br />
== Hardware/ Parte física ==<br />
<br />
* [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware | Descripción física del Neo1973 (Hardware)]] - El primer teléfono de FIC con OpenMoko<br />
** [[Disassembling Neo1973]] -Descripción fotográfica del desemsanblaje del Neo1973<br />
* [[Debug Board]] -- Tarjeta de depuración para el Neo1973. <br />
** [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2]] (Segunda versión de la tarjeta anterior)<br />
** [[Connecting_GTA01Bv2_with_Debug_Board]] (Para la primera versión de la tarjeta )<br />
** [[Debug Board v1]] - La versión anterior de la tarjeta.<br />
* [[QT2410]] - La tarjeta de desarrollo dutante sus primeros días :) (S3C2410)<br />
{{Languages|Hardware_Developer}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Hardware]][[Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]]</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction/esIntroduction/es2007-05-28T02:51:31Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div>OpenMoko es un esfuerzo en hacer el primer dispositivo móvil con aplicaciones no propietarias del mundo.<br />
<br />
Nosotros creemos en el modelo «(bottom-up)» (Definida e implementada por la comunidad), y no en el modelo «top-down» (definida por el consorcio).<br />
<br />
Para mayor información, por favor dirigirse a: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/000000.html Este anuncio]<br />
<br />
OpenMoko está diseñado para ser usado en la mayoría de dispositivos móviles que soporten o estén soportados sobre Linux. EL primer dispositivo OpenMoko totalmente basado sobre linux es el Neo1973 de FIC.<br />
<br />
Esta iniciativa ha sido liderada por [[FIC|FIC Ltda.]]y [http://www.openmoko.com OpenMoko, Inc.]<br />
<br />
== Audio ==<br />
* [http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre042.html Chaosradio Express with Tim Pritlove and Harald Welte (german)]<br />
<br />
== Videos == <br />
* [http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/videos/dialer-xvid.avi Neo1973 realizando una llamada. Un video cortesía de: Daniel 'alphaone' Willmann]<br />
* [http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3742589179435830945&hl=en-GB Google Video of the talk about OpenMoko by Sean Moss Pultz at FOSdem on 23rd Feb 2007.]<br />
* [http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi Version of above talk, in higher resolution, with the screen zoomed and transformed to the projector screen.] Text is visible here, unlike in the version above.<br />
* [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984 OpenMoko at Tossug], Presented by Sean Moss Pultz and Harald Welte at Taipei Open Source Software User Group (TOSSUG)<br />
<br />
== Fotos ==<br />
<br />
=== Presentación===<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|Anverso]]<br />
[[Image:Neo1973_uboot_splash.jpg|200px|vista de inicio]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case back white.jpg|200px|Reverso]]<br />
<br />
Un vínculo externo [http://blog.printf.net/articles/2007/02/22/unboxing-the-openmoko-phone In operation to see screen clarity]<br />
<br />
También puede ver: [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]]<br />
<br />
=== Alguna vista interna ===<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|200px|Anverso de la pantalla (display)]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|200px|Reverso]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lifted.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lifted]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lift white.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lift white]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open white.jpg|200px|case top open white]]<br />
<br />
{{Languages|Introduction}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction/esIntroduction/es2007-05-28T02:48:27Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div>OpenMoko es un esfuerzo en hacer el primer dispositivo móvil con aplicaciones no propietarias del mundo.<br />
<br />
Nosotros creemos en el modelo «(bottom-up)» (Definida e implementada por la comunidad), y no en el modelo «top-down» (definida por el consorcio).<br />
<br />
Para mayor información, por favor dirigirse a: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/000000.html Este anuncio]<br />
<br />
OpenMoko está diseñado para ser usado en la mayoría de dispositivos móviles que soporten o estén soportados sobre Linux. EL primer dispositivo OpenMoko totalmente basado sobre linux es el Neo1973 de FIC.<br />
<br />
Esta iniciativa ha sido liderada por [[FIC|FIC Ltda.]]y [http://www.openmoko.com OpenMoko, Inc.]<br />
<br />
== Audio ==<br />
* [http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre042.html Chaosradio Express with Tim Pritlove and Harald Welte (german)]<br />
<br />
== Videos == <br />
* [http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/videos/dialer-xvid.avi Neo1973 realizando una llamada. Un video cortesía de: Daniel 'alphaone' Willmann]<br />
* [http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3742589179435830945&hl=en-GB Google Video of the talk about OpenMoko by Sean Moss Pultz at FOSdem on 23rd Feb 2007.]<br />
* [http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi Version of above talk, in higher resolution, with the screen zoomed and transformed to the projector screen.] Text is visible here, unlike in the version above.<br />
* [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984 OpenMoko at Tossug], Presented by Sean Moss Pultz and Harald Welte at Taipei Open Source Software User Group (TOSSUG)<br />
<br />
== Fotos ==<br />
<br />
=== Presentación===<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|frontside]]<br />
[[Image:Neo1973_uboot_splash.jpg|200px|bootloader splash screen]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case back white.jpg|200px|backside]]<br />
<br />
Un vínculo externo [http://blog.printf.net/articles/2007/02/22/unboxing-the-openmoko-phone In operation to see screen clarity]<br />
<br />
También puede ver: [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]]<br />
<br />
=== Alguna vista interna ===<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|200px|display (top) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|200px|component (back) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lifted.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lifted]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lift white.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lift white]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open white.jpg|200px|case top open white]]<br />
<br />
{{Languages|Introduction}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction/esIntroduction/es2007-05-28T02:47:54Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div>OpenMoko es un esfuerzo en hacer el primer dispositivo móvil con aplicaciones no propietarias del mundo.<br />
<br />
Nosotros creemos en el modelo «(bottom-up)» (Definida e implementada por la comunidad), y no en el modelo «top-down» (definida por el consorcio).<br />
<br />
Para mayor información, por favor dirigirse a: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/000000.html Este anuncio]<br />
<br />
OpenMoko está diseñado para ser usado en la mayoría de dispositivos móviles que soporten o estén soportados sobre Linux. EL primer dispositivo OpenMoko totalmente basado sobre linux es el Neo1973 de FIC.<br />
<br />
Esta iniciativa ha sido liderada por [[FIC|FIC Ltda.]]y [http://www.openmoko.com OpenMoko, Inc.]<br />
<br />
== Audio ==<br />
* [http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre042.html Chaosradio Express with Tim Pritlove and Harald Welte (german)]<br />
<br />
== Videos == <br />
* [http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/videos/dialer-xvid.avi Neo1973 realizando una llamada. Video cortesía de: Daniel 'alphaone' Willmann]<br />
* [http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3742589179435830945&hl=en-GB Google Video of the talk about OpenMoko by Sean Moss Pultz at FOSdem on 23rd Feb 2007.]<br />
* [http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi Version of above talk, in higher resolution, with the screen zoomed and transformed to the projector screen.] Text is visible here, unlike in the version above.<br />
* [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984 OpenMoko at Tossug], Presented by Sean Moss Pultz and Harald Welte at Taipei Open Source Software User Group (TOSSUG)<br />
<br />
== Fotos ==<br />
<br />
=== Presentación===<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|frontside]]<br />
[[Image:Neo1973_uboot_splash.jpg|200px|bootloader splash screen]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case back white.jpg|200px|backside]]<br />
<br />
Un vínculo externo [http://blog.printf.net/articles/2007/02/22/unboxing-the-openmoko-phone In operation to see screen clarity]<br />
<br />
También puede ver: [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]]<br />
<br />
=== Alguna vista interna ===<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|200px|display (top) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|200px|component (back) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lifted.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lifted]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lift white.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lift white]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open white.jpg|200px|case top open white]]<br />
<br />
{{Languages|Introduction}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction/esIntroduction/es2007-05-28T02:47:28Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div>OpenMoko es un esfuerzo en hacer el primer dispositivo móvil con aplicaciones no propietarias del mundo.<br />
<br />
Nosotros creemos en el modelo «(bottom-up)» (Definida e implementada por la comunidad), y no en el modelo «top-down» (definida por el consorcio).<br />
<br />
Para mayor información, por favor dirigirse a: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/000000.html Este anuncio]<br />
<br />
OpenMoko está diseñado para ser usado en la mayoría de dispositivos móviles que soporten o estén soportados sobre Linux. EL primer dispositivo OpenMoko totalmente basado sobre linux es el Neo1973 de FIC.<br />
<br />
Esta iniciativa ha sido liderada por [[FIC|FIC Ltda.]]y [http://www.openmoko.com OpenMoko, Inc.]<br />
<br />
== Audio ==<br />
* [http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre042.html Chaosradio Express with Tim Pritlove and Harald Welte (german)]<br />
<br />
== Videos == <br />
* [http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/videos/dialer-xvid.avi Neo1973 realizando una llamada. Video cortesía de: Daniel 'alphaone' Willmann]<br />
* [http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3742589179435830945&hl=en-GB Google Video of the talk about OpenMoko by Sean Moss Pultz at FOSdem on 23rd Feb 2007.]<br />
* [http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi Version of above talk, in higher resolution, with the screen zoomed and transformed to the projector screen.] Text is visible here, unlike in the version above.<br />
* [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984 OpenMoko at Tossug], Presented by Sean Moss Pultz and Harald Welte at Taipei Open Source Software User Group (TOSSUG)<br />
<br />
== Fotos ==<br />
<br />
=== Presentación===<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|frontside]]<br />
[[Image:Neo1973_uboot_splash.jpg|200px|bootloader splash screen]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case back white.jpg|200px|backside]]<br />
<br />
External link [http://blog.printf.net/articles/2007/02/22/unboxing-the-openmoko-phone In operation to see screen clarity]<br />
<br />
También puede ver: [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]]<br />
<br />
=== Alguna vista interna ===<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|200px|display (top) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|200px|component (back) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lifted.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lifted]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lift white.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lift white]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open white.jpg|200px|case top open white]]<br />
<br />
{{Languages|Introduction}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction/esIntroduction/es2007-05-28T02:46:17Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div>OpenMoko es un esfuerzo en hacer el primer dispositivo móvil con aplicaciones no propietarias del mundo.<br />
<br />
Nosotros creemos en el modelo «(bottom-up)» (Definida e implementada por la comunidad), y no en el modelo «top-down» (definida por el consorcio).<br />
<br />
Para mayor información, por favor dirigirse a: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/000000.html Este anuncio]<br />
<br />
OpenMoko está diseñado para ser usado en la mayoría de dispositivos móviles que soporten o estén soportados sobre Linux. EL primer dispositivo OpenMoko totalmente basado sobre linux es el Neo1973 de FIC.<br />
<br />
Esta iniciativa ha sido liderada por [[FIC|FIC Ltda.]]y [http://www.openmoko.com OpenMoko, Inc.]<br />
<br />
== Audio ==<br />
* [http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre042.html Chaosradio Express with Tim Pritlove and Harald Welte (german)]<br />
<br />
== Videos == <br />
* [http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/videos/dialer-xvid.avi Neo1973 realizando una llamada. Video cortesía de: Daniel 'alphaone' Willmann]<br />
* [http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3742589179435830945&hl=en-GB Google Video of the talk about OpenMoko by Sean Moss Pultz at FOSdem on 23rd Feb 2007.]<br />
* [http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi Version of above talk, in higher resolution, with the screen zoomed and transformed to the projector screen.] Text is visible here, unlike in the version above.<br />
* [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984 OpenMoko at Tossug], Presented by Sean Moss Pultz and Harald Welte at Taipei Open Source Software User Group (TOSSUG)<br />
<br />
== Fotos ==<br />
<br />
=== Presentación y parte interna ===<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|frontside]]<br />
[[Image:Neo1973_uboot_splash.jpg|200px|bootloader splash screen]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case back white.jpg|200px|backside]]<br />
<br />
External link [http://blog.printf.net/articles/2007/02/22/unboxing-the-openmoko-phone In operation to see screen clarity]<br />
<br />
Also see [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]]<br />
<br />
=== Inside ===<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|200px|display (top) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|200px|component (back) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lifted.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lifted]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lift white.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lift white]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open white.jpg|200px|case top open white]]<br />
<br />
{{Languages|Introduction}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction/esIntroduction/es2007-05-28T02:45:18Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div>OpenMoko es un esfuerzo en hacer el primer dispositivo móvil con aplicaciones no propietarias del mundo.<br />
<br />
Nosotros creemos en el modelo «(bottom-up)» (Definida e implementada por la comunidad), y no en el modelo «top-down» (definida por el consorcio).<br />
<br />
Para mayor información, por favor dirigirse a: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/000000.html Este anuncio]<br />
<br />
OpenMoko está diseñado para ser usado en la mayoría de dispositivos móviles que soporten o estén soportados sobre Linux. EL primer dispositivo OpenMoko totalmente basado sobre linux es el Neo1973 de FIC.<br />
<br />
Esta iniciativa ha sido liderada por [[FIC|FIC Ltda.]]y [http://www.openmoko.com OpenMoko, Inc.]<br />
<br />
== Audio ==<br />
* [http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre042.html Chaosradio Express with Tim Pritlove and Harald Welte (german)]<br />
<br />
== Videos == <br />
* [http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/videos/dialer-xvid.avi Neo1973 realizando una llamada. Video cortesía de: Daniel 'alphaone' Willmann]<br />
* [http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3742589179435830945&hl=en-GB Google Video of the talk about OpenMoko by Sean Moss Pultz at FOSdem on 23rd Feb 2007.]<br />
* [http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi Version of above talk, in higher resolution, with the screen zoomed and transformed to the projector screen.] Text is visible here, unlike in the version above.<br />
* [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984 OpenMoko at Tossug], Presented by Sean Moss Pultz and Harald Welte at Taipei Open Source Software User Group (TOSSUG)<br />
<br />
== Photos ==<br />
<br />
=== Outside ===<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|frontside]]<br />
[[Image:Neo1973_uboot_splash.jpg|200px|bootloader splash screen]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case back white.jpg|200px|backside]]<br />
<br />
External link [http://blog.printf.net/articles/2007/02/22/unboxing-the-openmoko-phone In operation to see screen clarity]<br />
<br />
Also see [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]]<br />
<br />
=== Inside ===<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|200px|display (top) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|200px|component (back) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lifted.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lifted]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lift white.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lift white]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open white.jpg|200px|case top open white]]<br />
<br />
{{Languages|Introduction}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction/esIntroduction/es2007-05-28T02:44:12Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div>OpenMoko es un esfuerzo en hacer el primer dispositivo móvil con aplicaciones no propietarias del mundo.<br />
<br />
Nosotros creemos en el modelo «(bottom-up)» (Definida e implementada por la comunidad), y no en el modelo «top-down» (definida por el consorcio).<br />
<br />
Para mayor información, por favor dirigirse a: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/000000.html Este anuncio]<br />
<br />
OpenMoko está diseñado para ser usado en la mayoría de dispositivos móviles que soporten o estén soportados sobre Linux.EL primer dispositivo OpenMoko totalmente soportado el Neo1973 de FIC.<br />
<br />
Esta iniciativa ha sido liderada por [[FIC|FIC Ltda.]]y [http://www.openmoko.com OpenMoko, Inc.]<br />
<br />
== Audio ==<br />
* [http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre042.html Chaosradio Express with Tim Pritlove and Harald Welte (german)]<br />
<br />
== Videos == <br />
* [http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/videos/dialer-xvid.avi Neo1973 realizando una llamada. Video cortesía de: Daniel 'alphaone' Willmann]<br />
* [http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3742589179435830945&hl=en-GB Google Video of the talk about OpenMoko by Sean Moss Pultz at FOSdem on 23rd Feb 2007.]<br />
* [http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi Version of above talk, in higher resolution, with the screen zoomed and transformed to the projector screen.] Text is visible here, unlike in the version above.<br />
* [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984 OpenMoko at Tossug], Presented by Sean Moss Pultz and Harald Welte at Taipei Open Source Software User Group (TOSSUG)<br />
<br />
== Photos ==<br />
<br />
=== Outside ===<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|frontside]]<br />
[[Image:Neo1973_uboot_splash.jpg|200px|bootloader splash screen]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case back white.jpg|200px|backside]]<br />
<br />
External link [http://blog.printf.net/articles/2007/02/22/unboxing-the-openmoko-phone In operation to see screen clarity]<br />
<br />
Also see [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]]<br />
<br />
=== Inside ===<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|200px|display (top) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|200px|component (back) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lifted.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lifted]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lift white.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lift white]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open white.jpg|200px|case top open white]]<br />
<br />
{{Languages|Introduction}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Introduction/esIntroduction/es2007-05-28T02:43:35Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div>OpenMoko es un esfuerzo en hacer el primer dispositivo móvil con aplicaciones no propietarias del mundo.<br />
<br />
Nosotros creemos en el modelo «(bottom-up)» (Definida e implementada por la comunidad), y no en el modelo «top-down» (definida por el consorcio).<br />
<br />
Para mayor información, por favor dirigirse a: [http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/000000.html this announcement]<br />
<br />
OpenMoko está diseñado para ser usado en la mayoría de dispositivos móviles que soporten o estén soportados sobre Linux.EL primer dispositivo OpenMoko totalmente soportado el Neo1973 de FIC.<br />
<br />
Esta iniciativa ha sido liderada por [[FIC|FIC Ltda.]]y [http://www.openmoko.com OpenMoko, Inc.]<br />
<br />
== Audio ==<br />
* [http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre042.html Chaosradio Express with Tim Pritlove and Harald Welte (german)]<br />
<br />
== Videos == <br />
* [http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/videos/dialer-xvid.avi Neo1973 realizando una llamada. Video cortesía de: Daniel 'alphaone' Willmann]<br />
* [http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3742589179435830945&hl=en-GB Google Video of the talk about OpenMoko by Sean Moss Pultz at FOSdem on 23rd Feb 2007.]<br />
* [http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi Version of above talk, in higher resolution, with the screen zoomed and transformed to the projector screen.] Text is visible here, unlike in the version above.<br />
* [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984 OpenMoko at Tossug], Presented by Sean Moss Pultz and Harald Welte at Taipei Open Source Software User Group (TOSSUG)<br />
<br />
== Photos ==<br />
<br />
=== Outside ===<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|frontside]]<br />
[[Image:Neo1973_uboot_splash.jpg|200px|bootloader splash screen]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case back white.jpg|200px|backside]]<br />
<br />
External link [http://blog.printf.net/articles/2007/02/22/unboxing-the-openmoko-phone In operation to see screen clarity]<br />
<br />
Also see [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]]<br />
<br />
=== Inside ===<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 top.jpg|200px|display (top) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 bottom.jpg|200px|component (back) side]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lifted.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lifted]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open pcb lift white.jpg|200px|case top open pcb lift white]]<br />
[[Image:Gta01b v3 case top open white.jpg|200px|case top open white]]<br />
<br />
{{Languages|Introduction}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page/esMain Page/es2007-05-28T02:30:19Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div><big>'''Bienvenido al wiki público de [[OpenMoko]]'''</big><br><br />
<small>Para otros idiomas seguir el siguiente vínculo: [[#bottom|otros idiomas]].</small> <br />
<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|right|frontside]]<br />
[[OpenMoko]] es un proyecto [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Open Source] para hacer el primer sistema operativo libre para móviles a nivel mundial.<br />
<br />
La comunidad de [[OpenMoko]] es abierta a toda persona que desee unirse y ayudar a diseñar su «celular ideal».<br />
<br />
En un principio [[OpenMoko]] está diseñado para [[Neo1973]] de [[FIC]]. Pero en un futuro puede existir para otras plataformas.<br />
<br />
La meta de [[OpenMoko]] es que los programas que usen los móviles no sean específicos para un sólo tipo de teléfono. Ésto implica que usted puede comprar cualquier móvil y usar cualquier aplicación e instalarla en una amplia gama de dispositivos compatibles. Tampoco hay riesgo de peŕdidfa de información cuando exista una actualización. Además todos los dispositivos móviles se benefician de la depuración de errores, se corrige para uno, se corrige para todos.<br />
<br />
¡¡Únase a nosotros!! colabore con [[OpenMoko | El Proyecto OpenMoko]] a través de cualquiera de nuestras opciones: [[Development resources | recursos del proyecto]], incluyendo: [[Main Page | Página principal]]. Por favor diríjase a: [[Help:Contents | página de ayuda en el wiki]] para obtener información de como colaborar en el wiki. Cordialmente [[Meet the Core Team | grupo de desarrolladores, fundado por FIC, Inc.]] quien lidera el proyecto.<br />
<br />
Existe una [[Introduction |página de introducción]] con [[Introduction#Photos|fotos]] y [[Introduction#Videos|videos]] disponibles. Además esta disponible la página de [[FAQ | Preguntas de Uso Frecuente, PUF]] que puede servirle. Los desarrolladores pueden encontrar de utilidad la bitácora de cambios: [[ChangeLog | Bitácora de desarrollo]].<br />
<br />
Los miembros de la comunidad [[OpenMoko]] desean darle las gracias a [[FIC|FIC Inc.]] por mostrar liderazgo e iniciativa en el proyecto [[OpenMoko]].<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== [[OpenMoko]] Áreas de interés ==<br />
<br />
* [[Basic End-user]] - Información para los usuarios finales.<br />
* [[Advanced End-user]] - Información para usuarios avanzados.Los usuarios avanzados son quienes desean conocer y experimentar más a fondo con el teléfono pero no son programadores :).<br />
* [[Development resources | Project Resources]] page provides a centralized location of all resources such as [[Development resources#Mailing_Lists|mailing lists]], [[Development resources#IRC | communication tools]], and other software development oriented resources.<br />
* [[Application Developer]] -Información técnica para desarrolladores que incluye ideas y especificaciones para el desarrollo de aplicaciones y herramientas para tal fin.<br />
* [[System Developer]] - Información para desarrolladores del sistema base como por ejemplo:,desarrolladores del sistema de inicio(bootloader), del núcleo (kernel) y de bibliotecas de desarrollo.<br />
* [[Hardware Developer]] - Información para personas que son desarrolladores del sistema físico (hardware). En éste vínculo se encuentran las especificaciones y las hojas de datos del hadrware del teléfono así como también de la tarjeta de evaluación.<br />
* [[Community Events]] - Información relacionada con la comunidad, [[Community Events#Past Events | Eventos anteriores ]] y [[Community Events#Past Events#FIC / OpenMoko at Events | próximos]] eventos dónde FIC u [[OpenMoko]] tendrá ó ha tenido presencia.<br />
<br />
== Documentación para desarrolladores ==<br />
<br />
=== Manos a la obra ===<br />
* [[Getting Started with your Neo1973]]<br />
* [[MokoMakefile|Building OpenMoko using the MokoMakefile]] <br />
* [[Building OpenMoko from scratch]]<br />
** Old [[Building OpenMoko from scratch (pre-BBT)]]<br />
* [[Migration to bad block tolerant builds]]<br />
* [[Running OpenMoko on PC]]<br />
** [[Getting Openmoko working on host with Xoo]]<br />
** [[Getting OpenMoko working on host with Xephyr]]<br />
** [[How to run OpenMoko Apps on PC]]<br />
** [[OpenMoko under QEMU]]<br />
* [[Booting from SD]]<br />
<br />
=== Documentos y hojas de datos del «Hardware» ===<br />
* All [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware]] related documentation and specifications are found on the [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware page]].<br />
* The [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 Hardware page]] provides an overview of the hardware components used by the [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 hardware platform]]. PCB Photographs are also included. A [[Disassembling Neo1973 | photo disassemble story]] may be an interesting starting place.<br />
* [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging | Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]] is assisted with the [[Debug Board | Neo1973 debug board]]. A page discussing [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2 | debug board and Neo1973 configurations]] are also provided.<br />
<br />
=== Documentación de refrencia para los programas o «software» ===<br />
* Architectural<br />
** [[OpenMokoFramework]] - The OpenMoko Application Framework<br />
* [[neo1973 host software]]<br />
* Device Software<br />
** Low-Level<br />
*** [[u-boot]] - The bootloader we use, including documentation for our modifications<br />
*** [[kernel]] - The Linux kernel we use, including documentation for our modifications<br />
** Userspace<br />
*** [[gsmd]] - the GSM daemon managing the GSM Modem<br />
*** [[gpsd]] - the AGPS (Assisted GPS) daemon<br />
<br />
=== OpenMoko===<br />
* [[OpenEmbedded]] - The distribution-building framework<br />
* [[Toolchain]] - The toolchain we use for compilation<br />
* [[OpenMoko]] - The OpenMoko distribution<br />
** [[OpenMoko2007]] - The first intended release of it<br />
** [[Userspace root image]]<br />
<br />
==== Información relacionada con la interfaz de usuario ====<br />
* [[Look & Feel]]<br />
* [[Applications]]<br />
* [[Widgets]]<br />
** [[Widget Inheritance Graph]]<br />
<br />
=== Sin tema pero relacionado con el desarrollo ===<br />
* [[Templates]]<br />
* [[PIM Storage]]<br />
* [[Coding Guidelines]]<br />
* [[OpenMoko#Setting_up_an_OpenMoko_SDK|Como configurar OpenMoko SDK]]<br />
* [[License]] - El Cómo de licencia en el código <br />
* [[Development resources]] - Las fuentes de recursos para los desarrolladores (Listas, svn,irc, ...)<br />
* [[Neo1973 Phase 0]] -- Información relacionada con la «fase 0» para los dueños de los dispositivos <br />
* [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]] -- Impressions of the Phase 0 hardware device, also the Phase 0 FAQ<br />
<br />
== Organización y administración ==<br />
<br />
* [[Shipping Notes]] -Es éste lugar encontrará información acerca de cómo adquirir los productos, el costo de lo mismos relacionados con FIC.<br />
* [[My Account]] - Ideas for what sort of account-based services FIC should provide with the phone.<br />
<br />
== Miscelánea ==<br />
* [[WiFi support in OpenMoko]] - Or rather the lack thereof<br />
* [[Neo1973 and Windows]] - If you want to commit that offence ;) (does not work, help!)<br />
* [[Press Coverage]] - What the press says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[mFAQ]] - The OpenMoko Misinformation FAQ ('''mFAQ''') - What the press '''''incorrectly''''' says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[Wish List]] - A collection of ideas and ideals we'd like to see implemented some day<br />
* [[Wish List - Hardware]] - A collection of ideas we'd like to see in the next Neo release<br />
* [[Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage|Wish List - Built-in Scripting Language]] - Discussion on a suitable scripting language to be included<br />
* [[Media Content]] - What types of media on the device can we use (that is non-software)?<br />
* [[Testimonials]] - How did you get to OpenMoko?<br />
* [[Buying Interest List]] - (Not official and not a pre-order page) Have you have put money aside for Neo1973? Put your nick here.<br />
* [[iPhone]] - Comparación entre del iPhone de Apple y el FIC Neo1973<br />
* [[Translation]] - Traducción de OpenMoko<br />
* [[Summer of code]] -Nuestra sitio con aplicaciones del proyecto para «Googles Summer of Code»<br />
<br />
<br />
<span id="bottom"></span><br />
{{Languages|Main_Page}}</div>Arwhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page/esMain Page/es2007-05-28T02:26:56Z<p>Arw: </p>
<hr />
<div><big>'''Bienvenido al wiki público de [[OpenMoko]]'''</big><br><br />
<small>Para otros idiomas seguir el siguiente vínculo: [[#bottom|otros idiomas]].</small> <br />
<br />
[[Image:FIC-neo1973_small.jpg|200px|right|frontside]]<br />
[[OpenMoko]] es un proyecto [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Open Source] para hacer el primer sistema operativo libre para móviles a nivel mundial.<br />
<br />
La comunidad de [[OpenMoko]] es abierta a toda persona que desee unirse y ayudar a diseñar su «celular ideal».<br />
<br />
En un principio [[OpenMoko]] está diseñado para [[Neo1973]] de [[FIC]]. Pero en un futuro puede existir para otras plataformas.<br />
<br />
La meta de [[OpenMoko]] es que los programas que usen los móviles no sean específicos para un sólo tipo de teléfono. Ésto implica que usted puede comprar cualquier móvil y usar cualquier aplicación e instalarla en una amplia gama de dispositivos compatibles. Tampoco hay riesgo de peŕdidfa de información cuando exista una actualización. Además todos los dispositivos móviles se benefician de la depuración de errores, se corrige para uno, se corrige para todos.<br />
<br />
¡¡Únase a nosotros!! colabore con [[OpenMoko | El Proyecto OpenMoko]] a través de cualquiera de nuestras opciones: [[Development resources | recursos del proyecto]], incluyendo: [[Main Page | Página principal]]. Por favor diríjase a: [[Help:Contents | página de ayuda en el wiki]] para obtener información de como colaborar en el wiki. Cordialmente [[Meet the Core Team | grupo de desarrolladores, fundado por FIC, Inc.]] quien lidera el proyecto.<br />
<br />
Existe una [[Introduction |página de introducción]] con [[Introduction#Photos|fotos]] y [[Introduction#Videos|videos]] disponibles. Además esta disponible la página de [[FAQ | Preguntas de Uso Frecuente, PUF]] que puede servirle. Los desarrolladores pueden encontrar de utilidad la bitácora de cambios: [[ChangeLog | Bitácora de desarrollo]].<br />
<br />
Los miembros de la comunidad [[OpenMoko]] desean darle las gracias a [[FIC|FIC Inc.]] por mostrar liderazgo e iniciativa en el proyecto [[OpenMoko]].<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== [[OpenMoko]] Áreas de interés ==<br />
<br />
* [[Basic End-user]] - Información para los usuarios finales.<br />
* [[Advanced End-user]] - Información para usuarios avanzados.Los usuarios avanzados son quienes desean conocer y experimentar más a fondo con el teléfono pero no son programadores :).<br />
* [[Development resources | Project Resources]] page provides a centralized location of all resources such as [[Development resources#Mailing_Lists|mailing lists]], [[Development resources#IRC | communication tools]], and other software development oriented resources.<br />
* [[Application Developer]] -Información técnica para desarrolladores que incluye ideas y especificaciones para el desarrollo de aplicaciones y herramientas para tal fin.<br />
* [[System Developer]] - Información para desarrolladores del sistema base como por ejemplo:,desarrolladores del sistema de inicio(bootloader), del núcleo (kernel) y de bibliotecas de desarrollo.<br />
* [[Hardware Developer]] - Información para personas que son desarrolladores del sistema físico (hardware). En éste vínculo se encuentran las especificaciones y las hojas de datos del hadrware del teléfono así como también de la tarjeta de evaluación.<br />
* [[Community Events]] - Información relacionada con la comunidad, [[Community Events#Past Events | Eventos anteriores ]] y [[Community Events#Past Events#FIC / OpenMoko at Events | próximos]] eventos dónde FIC u [[OpenMoko]] tendrá ó ha tenido presencia.<br />
<br />
== Documentación para desarrolladores ==<br />
<br />
=== Manos a la obra ===<br />
* [[Getting Started with your Neo1973]]<br />
* [[MokoMakefile|Building OpenMoko using the MokoMakefile]] <br />
* [[Building OpenMoko from scratch]]<br />
** Old [[Building OpenMoko from scratch (pre-BBT)]]<br />
* [[Migration to bad block tolerant builds]]<br />
* [[Running OpenMoko on PC]]<br />
** [[Getting Openmoko working on host with Xoo]]<br />
** [[Getting OpenMoko working on host with Xephyr]]<br />
** [[How to run OpenMoko Apps on PC]]<br />
** [[OpenMoko under QEMU]]<br />
* [[Booting from SD]]<br />
<br />
=== Documentos y hojas de datos del «Hardware» ===<br />
* All [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware]] related documentation and specifications are found on the [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware page]].<br />
* The [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 Hardware page]] provides an overview of the hardware components used by the [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 hardware platform]]. PCB Photographs are also included. A [[Disassembling Neo1973 | photo disassemble story]] may be an interesting starting place.<br />
* [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging | Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]] is assisted with the [[Debug Board | Neo1973 debug board]]. A page discussing [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2 | debug board and Neo1973 configurations]] are also provided.<br />
<br />
=== Documentación de refrencia para los programas o «software» ===<br />
* Architectural<br />
** [[OpenMokoFramework]] - The OpenMoko Application Framework<br />
* [[neo1973 host software]]<br />
* Device Software<br />
** Low-Level<br />
*** [[u-boot]] - The bootloader we use, including documentation for our modifications<br />
*** [[kernel]] - The Linux kernel we use, including documentation for our modifications<br />
** Userspace<br />
*** [[gsmd]] - the GSM daemon managing the GSM Modem<br />
*** [[gpsd]] - the AGPS (Assisted GPS) daemon<br />
<br />
=== OpenMoko===<br />
* [[OpenEmbedded]] - The distribution-building framework<br />
* [[Toolchain]] - The toolchain we use for compilation<br />
* [[OpenMoko]] - The OpenMoko distribution<br />
** [[OpenMoko2007]] - The first intended release of it<br />
** [[Userspace root image]]<br />
<br />
==== Información relacionada con la interfaz de usuario ====<br />
* [[Look & Feel]]<br />
* [[Applications]]<br />
* [[Widgets]]<br />
** [[Widget Inheritance Graph]]<br />
<br />
=== Sin tema pero relacionado con el desarrollo ===<br />
* [[Templates]]<br />
* [[PIM Storage]]<br />
* [[Coding Guidelines]]<br />
* [[OpenMoko#Setting_up_an_OpenMoko_SDK|Como configurar OpenMoko SDK]]<br />
* [[License]] - El Cómo de licencia en el código <br />
* [[Development resources]] - Las fuentes de recursos para los desarrolladores (Listas, svn,irc, ...)<br />
* [[Neo1973 Phase 0]] -- Información relacionada con la «fase 0» para los dueños de los dispositivos <br />
* [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]] -- Impressions of the Phase 0 hardware device, also the Phase 0 FAQ<br />
<br />
== Organización y administración ==<br />
<br />
* [[Shipping Notes]] -Es éste lugar encontrará información acerca de cómo adquirir los productos, el costo de lo mismos relacionados con FIC.<br />
* [[My Account]] - Ideas for what sort of account-based services FIC should provide with the phone.<br />
<br />
== Miscelánea ==<br />
* [[WiFi support in OpenMoko]] - Or rather the lack thereof<br />
* [[Neo1973 and Windows]] - If you want to commit that offence ;) (does not work, help!)<br />
* [[Press Coverage]] - What the press says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[mFAQ]] - The OpenMoko Misinformation FAQ ('''mFAQ''') - What the press '''''incorrectly''''' says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[Wish List]] - A collection of ideas and ideals we'd like to see implemented some day<br />
* [[Wish List - Hardware]] - A collection of ideas we'd like to see in the next Neo release<br />
* [[Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage|Wish List - Built-in Scripting Language]] - Discussion on a suitable scripting language to be included<br />
* [[Media Content]] - What types of media on the device can we use (that is non-software)?<br />
* [[Testimonials]] - How did you get to OpenMoko?<br />
* [[Buying Interest List]] - (Not official and not a pre-order page) Have you have put money aside for Neo1973? Put your nick here.<br />
* [[iPhone]] - Comparison between Apple iPhone and FIC Neo1973<br />
* [[Translation]] - Translation of OpenMoko<br />
* [[Summer of code]] - Our page with project applications for Googles Summer of Code<br />
<br />
<br />
<span id="bottom"></span><br />
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<div><big>'''Bienvenido al wiki público de [[OpenMoko]]'''</big><br><br />
<small>Para otros idiomas seguir el siguiente vínculo: [[#bottom|otros idiomas]].</small> <br />
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[[OpenMoko]] es un proyecto [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source Open Source] para hacer el primer sistema operativo libre para móviles a nivel mundial.<br />
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La comunidad de [[OpenMoko]] es abierta a toda persona que desee unirse y ayudar a diseñar su «celular ideal».<br />
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En un principio [[OpenMoko]] está diseñado para [[Neo1973]] de [[FIC]].Pero en un futuro puede existir para otras plataformas.<br />
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La meta de [[OpenMoko]] es: que los programas que usen los móviles no sean específicos para un sólo tipo de teléfono.Ésto implica que usted puede comprar cualquier móvil y usar cualquier aplicación e instalarla en una amplia gama de dispositivos compatibles. Tampoco hay riesgo de peŕdidfa de información cuando exista una actualización. Además todos los dispositivos móviles se befician de la depuración de errores, se corrige para uno, se corrige para todos.<br />
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¡¡Únase a nosotros!! colabore con [[OpenMoko | El Proyecto OpenMoko]] a través de cualquiera de nuestras opciones: [[Development resources | recursos del proyecto]], incluyendo: [[Main Page | Página principal]]. Por favor diríjase a: [[Help:Contents | página de ayuna en el wiki]] para obtener información de como colaborar en el wiki. Cordialmente [[Meet the Core Team | grupo de desarrolladores, fundado por FIC, Inc.]] quien lidera el proyecto.<br />
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Una página de introducción está disponible en :[[Introduction | Introducción]] . La página de introducción [[Introduction | página]] fotos [[Introduction#Photos|fotos]] y videos [[Introduction#Videos|videos]] disponibles. Sin embargo, la página de Preguntas de Uso Frecuente PUF (FAQ en inglés) está disponible [[FAQ | Preguntas de Uso Fracuente, PUF]] y puede serle de utilidad.Los desarrolladores pueden encontrar de utilidad la bitácora de cambios: [[ChangeLog | Bitácora de desarrollo]] .<br />
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Los miembros de la comunidad [[OpenMoko]] desean darle las gracias a [[FIC|FIC Inc.]] por mostrar su liderazgo e iniciativa en el proyecto [[OpenMoko]].<br />
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== [[OpenMoko]] Áreas de interés ==<br />
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* [[Basic End-user]] - Información pra usuarios finales.<br />
* [[Advanced End-user]] - Information for advanced end-users that want advanced and experimental functionality but who are not programmers<br />
* [[Development resources | Project Resources]] page provides a centralized location of all resources such as [[Development resources#Mailing_Lists|mailing lists]], [[Development resources#IRC | communication tools]], and other software development oriented resources.<br />
* [[Application Developer]] - Information for application developers, including ideas and specifications for applications, and tools to build them<br />
* [[System Developer]] - Information for system developers, including bootloader, kernel, and libraries<br />
* [[Hardware Developer]] - Information for hardware developers, including hardware specs and debug board<br />
* [[Community Events]] - Information on both [[Community Events#Past Events | past ]] and [[Community Events#Past Events#FIC / OpenMoko at Events | future]] events where FIC or [[OpenMoko]] had or will have a presence.<br />
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== Documentación para desarrolladores ==<br />
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=== Hands-on Guides ===<br />
* [[Getting Started with your Neo1973]]<br />
* [[MokoMakefile|Building OpenMoko using the MokoMakefile]] <br />
* [[Building OpenMoko from scratch]]<br />
** Old [[Building OpenMoko from scratch (pre-BBT)]]<br />
* [[Migration to bad block tolerant builds]]<br />
* [[Running OpenMoko on PC]]<br />
** [[Getting Openmoko working on host with Xoo]]<br />
** [[Getting OpenMoko working on host with Xephyr]]<br />
** [[How to run OpenMoko Apps on PC]]<br />
** [[OpenMoko under QEMU]]<br />
* [[Booting from SD]]<br />
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=== Documentos y hojas de datos del «Hardware» ===<br />
* All [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware]] related documentation and specifications are found on the [[:Category:Hardware|Hardware page]].<br />
* The [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 Hardware page]] provides an overview of the hardware components used by the [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware|Neo1973 hardware platform]]. PCB Photographs are also included. A [[Disassembling Neo1973 | photo disassemble story]] may be an interesting starting place.<br />
* [[:Category:Neo1973 Hardware Debugging | Neo1973 Hardware Debugging]] is assisted with the [[Debug Board | Neo1973 debug board]]. A page discussing [[Connecting Neo1973 with Debug Board v2 | debug board and Neo1973 configurations]] are also provided.<br />
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=== Documentación de refrencia para los programas o «software» ===<br />
* Architectural<br />
** [[OpenMokoFramework]] - The OpenMoko Application Framework<br />
* [[neo1973 host software]]<br />
* Device Software<br />
** Low-Level<br />
*** [[u-boot]] - The bootloader we use, including documentation for our modifications<br />
*** [[kernel]] - The Linux kernel we use, including documentation for our modifications<br />
** Userspace<br />
*** [[gsmd]] - the GSM daemon managing the GSM Modem<br />
*** [[gpsd]] - the AGPS (Assisted GPS) daemon<br />
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=== OpenMoko===<br />
* [[OpenEmbedded]] - The distribution-building framework<br />
* [[Toolchain]] - The toolchain we use for compilation<br />
* [[OpenMoko]] - The OpenMoko distribution<br />
** [[OpenMoko2007]] - The first intended release of it<br />
** [[Userspace root image]]<br />
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==== Información relacionada con la interfaz de usuario ====<br />
* [[Look & Feel]]<br />
* [[Applications]]<br />
* [[Widgets]]<br />
** [[Widget Inheritance Graph]]<br />
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=== Sin tema pero relacionado con el desarrollo ===<br />
* [[Templates]]<br />
* [[PIM Storage]]<br />
* [[Coding Guidelines]]<br />
* [[OpenMoko#Setting_up_an_OpenMoko_SDK|How to setup the OpenMoko SDK]]<br />
* [[License]] - How we license our code<br />
* [[Development resources]] - Describes resources for developers (lists, svn, ...)<br />
* [[Neo1973 Phase 0]] -- Information for Phase 0 device owners<br />
* [[Wishlist:Neo1973 P0 Review]] -- Impressions of the Phase 0 hardware device, also the Phase 0 FAQ<br />
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== Organización y administración ==<br />
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* [[Shipping Notes]] - Information to help FIC figure out how to ship products to you, and how much it might cost.<br />
* [[My Account]] - Ideas for what sort of account-based services FIC should provide with the phone.<br />
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== Miscelánea ==<br />
* [[WiFi support in OpenMoko]] - Or rather the lack thereof<br />
* [[Neo1973 and Windows]] - If you want to commit that offence ;) (does not work, help!)<br />
* [[Press Coverage]] - What the press says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[mFAQ]] - The OpenMoko Misinformation FAQ ('''mFAQ''') - What the press '''''incorrectly''''' says about the OpenMoko project<br />
* [[Wish List]] - A collection of ideas and ideals we'd like to see implemented some day<br />
* [[Wish List - Hardware]] - A collection of ideas we'd like to see in the next Neo release<br />
* [[Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage|Wish List - Built-in Scripting Language]] - Discussion on a suitable scripting language to be included<br />
* [[Media Content]] - What types of media on the device can we use (that is non-software)?<br />
* [[Testimonials]] - How did you get to OpenMoko?<br />
* [[Buying Interest List]] - (Not official and not a pre-order page) Have you have put money aside for Neo1973? Put your nick here.<br />
* [[iPhone]] - Comparison between Apple iPhone and FIC Neo1973<br />
* [[Translation]] - Translation of OpenMoko<br />
* [[Summer of code]] - Our page with project applications for Googles Summer of Code<br />
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